{"video_id":"QUkvhOhrDVk","title":"Intel vs AMD Gaming CPU Showdown 2500K vs 1100T with Quad SLI Linus Tech Tips","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2012-05-07T14:53:29Z","duration_s":478,"segments":[{"start_s":7.919,"end_s":14.48,"text":"AMD finally has a high-end a truly","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":11.559,"end_s":22.359,"text":"high-end platform this so this is the 990fx Crosshair 5 formula with an 1100t","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":19.0,"end_s":26.439,"text":"8 gigs of RAM a 120 gig SSD it's my","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":22.359,"end_s":29.8,"text":"usual test platform except it has two","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":26.439,"end_s":33.16,"text":"GTX 590s on it so this is pretty much","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":29.8,"end_s":36.32,"text":"the the fastest gaming machine you can","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":33.16,"end_s":39.16,"text":"build on an 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uh price to Performance ratio argument to be made really I mean the 2500k has to win by about 10% just to break even so uh yeah let's see how this goes this is going to be mostly Graphics Bound in spite of the fact fact that I'm running quad SLI with 590s cuz I am going to be running fairly intensive games I may add some more games to the test Suite but let's just see how things go and uh this will be interesting I've uh I've wondered this for a long time how do these two platforms compare against each other in a truly equivalent scenario oh yeah for the Intel uh CPU I will be using the z68a gd80 as my motherboard of choice so I've loaded on the Intel platform now this is a Z6 68 platform but I will not be using the onboard uh Graphics at all so I'm going to be disabling it because turning on virtue actually will impact graphics performance somewhat while it will increase video encoding speed through supported program so I'm just going for peer graphics performance we're assuming this is for a gaming system given that there are dual GTX 590s in it so I've finished my 1100t results and I will be following up now with my 2500k results I wanted to give you guys a little bit of info first though so for all of these I'm running at 2560 x600 and I'm going with my usual settings so that means for example Witcher 2 I'm not using the very highest setting I'm using High uh for example uh Battlefield Bad Company 2 Forex antialiasing 8times AF uh Fear 3 I had to turn off AA even though normally I use it at 2560 x600 I was getting only about 12 FPS which is not enough for me to play through my run through with the 1100t so I'm turning off antialiasing that made a big difference to Performance so we'll see how that goes crisis 2 I am using the um shoot I can't remember for the life of me oh yeah the the second the second highest that's right and then Dirt 3 I have it on Ultra so here we go 2500k testing upcoming quad SLI is working let's see how this goes one other thing to mention actually Mafia 2 I am using Apex physics on high 8X AF and anti-al lasing is set to on so I'm using NVIDIA cards might as well crank up the physx all right so I have my results with the 2500k this is all using the same graphical settings so in Dirt 3 we see a 12.5% increase in performance so this is about what I would expect given the CPU costs about 10 to 12% more okay in crisis 2 we see a 35.5% difference in performance I mean 62.5 frames per second is substantially more playable than 46.8 just due to the fact that you're not going to see those same dips um Witcher two we saw just a very insubstantial increase in performance so we're obviously not very CPU bound here uh fear three now this one's funny I'm going to go back I'm going to put the 1100t with the 990 FX back on the test bench and I'm going to run it again just to be sure but I did run into some weirdness on the AMD platform with fear 3 where when I was running anti-aliasing uh the performance was about a third of this it was very very low and just turning off AA brought us up to here whereas on the Intel platform with with zero times anti-aliasing I didn't see any any weirdness in terms of performance Fear 3 is not a super demanding game so even at 2560 x600 I was expecting more like this number and that's what I got so I'll rerun it just to just to see Battlefield Bad Company 2 it's about par for the course and then Mafia 2 uh maybe due to the processor intensive nature of it with all the articles and whatnot and the CPU still has to help out the GPU with that so we ended up seeing a 40 approximately 40% increase in gaming performance going to a 2500k from an 1100t with GTX 590s so let's um you know what I'm actually going to since I have to go throw the other platform back on anyway what maybe what I'll do is I'll run uh I'll run one more game here just cuz it's not quite super super late yet so I can do a little bit more testing for you guys so thinking maybe I'll do um Lost Planet 2 yeah let's do Lost Planet 2 so I made myself a smoothie and still at work here so I ran Metro 2033 and Lost Planet 2 so Metro 2033 actually showed the 2500k losing this is the first time I've seen that and then Lost Planet 2 showed a 20% victory for the 2500k now Fear 3 I I put that back on Fear 3 has um exhibited exactly the same behavior second time around so the 2500k even with four times anti-aliasing still manages a better frame rate than fear 3 on the 1100t without anti-aliasing so thinking I mean SLI support is pretty new for AMD platform so maybe there's an issue with the SLI driver what I think I'm going to do well not I think I'm going to do what I'm going to do right now is I'm going to take a 68 oh 68 I don't even have a 68 well I do have a 6870 but I don't have it on me so 6970 there we go so I'm run 69 70s In Fear 3 alone with the same graphic settings 0 x anti-aliasing a single card I don't think it's going to run that well anyway and then I'm going to run that on both platforms and I'm going to see if it's CPU related or if it's related to the quad SLI driver all right well it seems to be a weird driver issue in retrospect maybe I should have chosen a more normal Graphics configuration like maybe uh GTX 580 SLI or something like that I couldn't use 6970 Crossfire because I know crisis 2 behaves very strangely with it from some other benchmarking I did this weekend anyway you can see here the 1100t with the 6970 gets 86.2 FPS uh uh at that setting at 2560 x600 with this yeah so so that's a substantially less powerful configuration it has like about one qu the GPU processing power so now we're going to take the 2500k run it with the 6970 see how it comes out and that is what we will take to be our performance difference for fear 3 well that was rather anticlimactic after all that fear 3 is a dead tie so thank you for checking out my coverage of the 2500 K versus the 1100t in Quad SLI and In Fear 3 running a 6970 don't forget to subscribe to Linus Tech 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