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The Linux Challenge 2026 edition was

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supposed to be a three-part series.

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>> The setup, a taskoff challenge episode

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testing day-to-day usability, and a

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conclusion.

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>> But then the first week was full of so

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many unexpected highs and lows. We knew

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there had to be another video,

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especially after the Linux community

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exploded after I picked Pop OS again.

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And while Luke and I seem to have

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[music] been praised for our choices, I

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can tell you guys firsthand that it has

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not been a smooth ride for me.

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>> Meanwhile, things were going so great

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for me, I decided to dip my toes even

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further, attempting some more complex

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tasks that I didn't expect to [music] go

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super well, just to see what would

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happen.

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>> And I ended up trying some other dros,

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which addressed some of my issues with

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Pop OS, but uh also ended up being

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frustrating in their own ways. But what

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I feel like I've got to start this by

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explaining my brain deadad choice of

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Papo. It was amazing how many people got

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angry at me for picking the same DRO

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that screwed me over last time. But if

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you guys remember, I actually used

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Mangaro last time after I was assured

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that the bug that I encountered when I

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was setting up Pop OS was a one-time

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fluke. And then I got piled on for being

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so quick to abandon it. So this is me

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putting aside my past experience after

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seeing so many people listicles and chat

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bots that still recommend it. That

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willingness to try again is a good thing

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for Linux. I mean if everybody bailed

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after one bad experience, there would be

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no distros left to try. Nothing is

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perfect. And unfortunately that goes

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especially for Pop OS. System 76 has

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spent the last couple of years hard at

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work on a new desktop environment,

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Cosmic, and it's been a challenge.

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>> Lionus, Cosmic is basically in beta.

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Don't you know that it's not ready yet?

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>> No, I didn't. For one thing, where does

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it say that? The thing that I downloaded

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was called LTS or long-term support.

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That's like the opposite of beta. I

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would have had to journey to a random

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blog post from back in September of 2025

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to discover that Cosmic is now in public

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beta. Number two, maybe this is a hot

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take, but maybe if System 76, a

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commercial entity, not a random open

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source contributor, knows that it's not

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ready for prime time, instead of blaming

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me, we should probably blame the company

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that shipped it. And you know what?

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Yeah, I could have come across some of

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the Linux YouTube channels that have

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highlighted these issues. But a key

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element of the Linux challenge is

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highlighting that unless you know to ask

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the question, is this DRO's desktop

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environment in beta, it can be hard for

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new Penguin Curious users to find the

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right answers. So, as we keep going,

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it's important to think of the Linux

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challenge not as an attack on Linux, but

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as more of a pen test for how friendly

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it is to newbies. My Basite adventure

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started a bit better than Lionus at

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first. But if you remember in part one,

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I mounted my SMB share. I was shocked at

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how easy it was to find cuz normally on

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Windows I would have to type in the

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address bar and find it versus on Basite

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I just clicked on network and it found

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it right away. But I didn't realize that

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that wasn't mounting it. That was just

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creating a shortcut. This means my read

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and write permissions were all over the

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place and I couldn't save some files to

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my network drive if I clicked on that

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shortcut. To solve this, I had to do

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some Googling and I found out that I

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needed to modify my FS tab file to point

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the network location to the Mnt folder

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on my drive. So, I did that. But then I

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noticed that I had two, both of which

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were still behaving like a shortcut. I

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tried at least a dozen different options

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in order to mount the share correctly.

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None of which ultimately succeeded or

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should have even been necessary if you

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ask me. Opening context menus on icons,

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shortcuts, or applications is a great

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tool. And it seems like a big oversight

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on the Bazite team to not include a

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quick mount option that just works.

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Instead, I want to fab myself in the

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head.

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>> Meanwhile, I was having a grand old time

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on Cashy. And since I felt more

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comfortable than the other two guys, I

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decided to get a little bit daring. I

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uninstalled my entire Cinnamon desktop

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environment on purpose [music]

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to see if I would run into any

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challenges. It took about 20 minutes max

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before I was up and running with KDE

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Plasma. And my only issue was that I had

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to clean up some small things [music]

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left over from Cinnamon. Uh like a an

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additional sound icon that was in the

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bottom tray because I had two sound

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icons and they could conflict and stuff.

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And that was honestly also really easy

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to do. So, no big deal. As for my gaming

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adventures, my first real challenge in

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this Linux challenge was probably my own

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fault. I had read some stuff online

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saying that I could do it, but I think I

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was trying to be a little bit more

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optimistic than realistic. I had a

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Windows game drive [music]

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previously that I just kind of left

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alone and tried to use on Linux, which

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means that it was formatted in NTFS. Um,

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I just added it to my Steam library and

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Linux and tried to go. All my games

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showed up perfect and everything seemed

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fine at first. Some games even ran okay,

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but I started to notice some glitches

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and even some games that I had freshly

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installed on that drive just wouldn't

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work. It would just you click play and

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it [music] just wouldn't launch

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sometimes. It turns out that while Linux

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can still use NTFS and there's been some

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ongoing development to make it even

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smoother, even since we started this

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challenge, I can say in my experience,

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it was uh kind of rough, especially when

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used with Proton. Proton doesn't seem to

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like it. So, in my opinion, if you want

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to play games off [music] of an NTFS

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drive, just don't. At least not right

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now. My gaming experiences were mostly

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smooth with two major exceptions,

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though. One of which I'm actually going

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to save for the conclusion cuz it's kind

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of a spicy one. So, make sure you get

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subscribed for that. But the other was

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actually the first game that I tried to

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fully play on Linux. Poppy Playtime

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Chapter 5. I wanted to stream it, but I

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was getting no audio and no picture,

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which is not ideal for a stream. Oh no.

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Are we not going to be able to play? But

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then it suddenly just popped in and

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started working fine. I played it for a

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little while and then the same thing

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happened again. Look, all the friends

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are here. Isn't this amazing? Oh, well,

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it turns out that the pre-rendered

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cutscenes weren't working. Proton, which

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is the compatibility layer that allows

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non-native Linux titles to work on

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Linux, is missing proprietary licenses

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for H.264 and H.265 video codecs. What

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was the solution? A community fork

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called Proton GE, which thankfully was

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in the Basite store. That's a pretty

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simple fix, but it's also one that

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highlights how unrealistic some Linux

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evangelists can be about the experience.

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No, in many cases, it doesn't just work

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out of the box. And users who don't

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treat fixing their operating system as a

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hobby will be looking for someone to

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blame for this hassle. So, is it Linux,

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Valve, Mob [music] Entertainment, the

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user, maybe all, or hear me out, none?

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It's easy to jump on the blame bandwagon

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and hate on some developers for not

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prioritizing Linux, but ask yourself

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this. If 50% of your customers were on

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Windows and the other 48% are on Xbox

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and PlayStation, would you be stoked on

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hiring a fourth group of employees whose

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job it is to deal with the other 2%?

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Especially knowing that those 2% are not

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running one OS, but are probably running

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different flavors of OS. I mean, maybe

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you would, but it's more important to

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remember that just like the users, many

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companies don't treat fixing operating

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systems like a hobby. Okay, so then we

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blame Valve. No, obviously not. It's

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super cool that they have put so much

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support into Proton, but the fact that

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they've paid so much already is not a

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good argument that they should just

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obviously pay even more for these

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commercial video codecs. The point I'm

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trying to make here is that enjoying the

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Linux experience requires a no blame

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mindset. Some stuff's going to work and

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some stuff won't. It's not anybody's

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fault. Everyone is doing their best. So

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with that in mind, throw out what I said

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earlier cuz I'm not mad at system 76. In

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fact, I left Pop OS on my main desktop

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just for the ls and it mostly worked for

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most things. With that said, when it

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came time to install Linux on my other

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systems, I did opt for something

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different. Starting with Basite on my

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home theater PC. It's just too bad the

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Linux curse followed me there as well.

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Um, Basite has different versions of

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their installer depending on the brand

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of your GPU and whether or not you want

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the Steam OS full screen experience.

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Well, I've got an NVIDIA GPU and yeah, I

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want that experience. That's kind of the

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point of it on a home the PC. So, I

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picked this one. And um, let's put it

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this way. The Basite team feels that I

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should have known the one that I

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selected would result in a completely

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unusable experience. But to me, that's

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actually not that obvious. Coming from

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the Windows Google normie world where a

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stable service like Gmail was labeled

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beta for 5 years, it's not that

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unreasonable to think that you can daily

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drive a beta and have a mostly

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functioning experience. In Linux, that's

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an expectation that needs to be

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completely thrown out the window. Here,

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beta seems to mean this is broken and if

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you're not a developer, you should

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probably just download the LTS, which

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might also be beta.

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Clearly, we've got to reach a middle

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ground here. And Basite seems to agree

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because they have updated the messaging

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on their site. Anyway, that happened

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later. So to get my system up and

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running, I ended up doing what many

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Linux people do and switching to a

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Radeon card, which was completely

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painless. Why run Bazite when I could

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just run Steam OS on the Steam machine

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that we built on this channel like a

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couple months ago? I can't believe I

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forgot about this thing. I've been

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meaning to install it. I actually ended

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up throwing Steam OS on my home theater

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PC. Nice. Okay. Is it a bit of a hack to

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just switch out your hardware? Yes, but

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also no, because a lot of Linux gamers

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would go out of their way to choose

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compatible hardware in the first place.

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So, I'm pretending I did that. First, I

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want to see how well this integrates

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with my system here. Let's hit power

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toggle for the PC. No way.

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Did Valve seriously bake in support for

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this old Microsoft IR receiver, which

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was child's play to get working, and

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it's been kind of awesome from the

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couch. Nothing further to report there.

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As for my laptop, I decided it was

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finally time to practice what I preach

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and go for good oldfashioned trustworthy

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Ubuntu. Sort of Kubuntu is actually

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Ubuntu, but with the KDE desktop

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environment, which I find quite

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comfortable to navigate, sort of. I

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mean, first I have to get to the desktop

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and day one was kind of terrible. After

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completing setup, it just black screened

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and it sat there for hours and I was

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like, come on, man. This is ridiculous.

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Then [music] I came down in the morning

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and it was like Santa had visited

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because it was magically sitting at the

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login screen and it's been downright

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pretty solid ever since with a bit of a

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learning curve. For example, I did run

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into issues getting some applications to

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work due to downloading the wrong

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package. Debian packages, snap packages,

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and flat packs will all work on Kubuntu.

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But I figured, okay, well, Debian makes

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the most sense since Kubuntu is based on

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Debian. But then after I installed OBS,

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I realized I had no option to select the

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display that I wanted to screen capture.

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The solution, use the flatp pack

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installer apparently. Okay, but where?

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The top result, as far as I can tell,

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doesn't convey that it's a flatp pack.

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Oh, right. I need to enable flatp pack

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search. Except that wasn't the solution

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either because Whand, which Kubuntu

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[music] uses as part of its desktop

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environment, has a privacy thing built

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in that no likey [music] screen capture.

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Now, it can be worked around, but

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threads like this one are a great

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example of how troubleshooting can often

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be a guess and check experience because

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there are like five different solutions

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in here, and I actually can no longer

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remember which one worked. Of course,

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though, it's important to point out that

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every problem that we're having with

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Linux can also be a problem with

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Windows. But the fact that Microsoft is

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also bad doesn't mean that we shouldn't

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be honest about issues or like level of

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tinkering required with Linux. My

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laptop, for example, running Mint and a

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very simple use case of basically just

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loading a browser hasn't required any

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tinkering this whole time and hasn't

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really had any problems. my desktop

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running Cache OS. I've intentionally

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tried to like put myself in harm's way

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and ran into [music] some really complex

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scenarios that have been fun to diagnose

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and work through, but there are things

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that are quite simple on Windows and

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very easy to do that are more

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complicated on Linux, and that's okay.

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But trying to hide that fact in order to

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recruit more Windows users to join the

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community, I think does more harm than

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good, especially when they are

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unfortunately fairly often met with

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hostility from the community when they

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then run into these problems and are

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unequipped to deal with. I think there

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are some obviously extremely bright

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lights in the Linux community that bring

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a lot of hope and joy and fun to the

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whole experience of learning Linux. But

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there is a lot of negative

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communication on forums, on Reddit,

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elsewhere. It's very off-putting for new

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Linux community members, which we're

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going to be seeing a lot more of soon,

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uh to receive that type of energy. The

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the biggest thing that didn't work for

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me was just software compatibility. But

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with some time and effort, I did manage

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to find either an alternative way uh to

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get the Windows native version working

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for my admittedly somewhat basic

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software suite. I didn't I use Adobe

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Premiere for editing. And one of the

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many fun ways that Adobe is kind of ass

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is that it just doesn't work on Linux.

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Now, I tried messing around with bottles

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a bit, which allows you to run Windows

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software on Linux, but that was

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obviously still a no-go, which then sent

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me looking for alternatives. Da Vinci

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Resolve has a Linux build, though it's

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only officially supported on Rocky Linux

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of all things. Still, Rocky Linux is a

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lot closer to Basite than Windows is. So

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maybe, and yeah, after 2 hours of

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trying, I got her up and running, but

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not the way I thought. See, I just tried

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installing it like a Windows

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application. Download and run.

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>> But Basite, as I learned, is an

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immutable operating system similar to

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Steam OS. This means core operating

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system files and permissions are locked

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down in such a way that the user either

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can't screw them up or they can but then

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they'll reset themselves after a reboot.

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Unfortunately, this same lockdown

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applies to some software installers,

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which then means that they can't alter

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the files that they need to. The

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solution was for me to beat my head

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against a wall until I found this

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6-inute video about a simple command to

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run. Hey, software installed. But then I

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ran into the same problem as Poppy

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Playtime. Depending on the file that I

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was trying to play or export, it

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wouldn't work. Freaking curse you video

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codecs.

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So I then tried Kaden Live, which is

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fine for basic editing, but if I want to

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be a power user, it's just not quite

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there yet. And for stills, neither is

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 You know what? I'm going to be the

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one to say it. sucks. With that

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said, I still want to emphasize the

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gratitude that I feel and you, Elijah, I

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know you feel it too, toward the open

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source community, whether it's

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applications or drivers or Linux in

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general. The fact that people are

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stepping up against the corporate

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overlords who are limiting our choices,

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feasting on our wallets, and then spying

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on us for good measure is amazing and

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[music] it's admirable. However, context

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matters. And when we're evaluating the

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experience of switching to Linux, we're

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doing so from a user perspective. And so

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we do have to point out things that

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might not be ideal. Just try to

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understand that it comes from a place of

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love and appreciation, not from a place

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of hate. Everybody involved in the Linux

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challenge today is rooting for Linux to

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succeed. And it's actually been really

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exciting to see so many social media

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posts of people who have joined the

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challenge alongside us, even though we

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didn't ask anybody to. But as exciting

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as all of that is, part of succeeding in

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this is taking off the blinders and

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being honest about the areas where

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things need to improve. And it's

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actually been pretty cool to see that

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some of our observations are already

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resulting in clearer documentation

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that's going to help pave the path for

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future users. Now, I know we're

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releasing part two like way past the one

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month point already, huh? Elijah was

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busy fixing our environmental chamber

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among other things. But we do still have

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more videos lined up for the series. And

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as you guys can see, even though we're

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past the month, uh there will be some

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surprises in the future parts. Part

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three is going to have us do some fun

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challenges. And then part four is going

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to be the conclusion where we sit down

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on the couch together and talk about our

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If you guys enjoyed this video, go check

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out part one. [music] We talked through

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the choices that we made and the

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installation process. It's over a month

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old at this point, which I know we said

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we were only going to do a one-mon

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challenge, but maybe that gives you a

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little hint [music] as to what our

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conclusion might
