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we're gonna break it we might as well at least get it on camera

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okay okay i like ASUS they're a valued partner the

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quality of the products is generally pretty good and for the most part they

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try and do the right thing for consumers but the quality of their implementation

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of Thunderbolt on their motherboards has been so bad for so long that i just

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can't put off doing this video any longer because my wife won't let me

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because every time this is across multiple docks multiple cables and now

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multiple motherboards every time she tries to wake her display from sleep oh

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yeah they change the graphics card too it simply won't do it so this is it it's

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wife personal rig upgrade time and i am cutting ASUS out of the equation guys

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you gotta fix your stuff just like i'm gonna fix this segway to our sponsor you

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one of the best things about having rack mounted pcs in a server cabinet is that

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performing maintenance is as simple as we're sliding them out and you're good

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to go now the astute among you will probably have noticed that the hardware

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in here is not exactly old and shouldn't

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really need an upgrade that's because as part of this process of getting my

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wife's workstation all cable managed up and upgraded to the latest tech i threw

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in an ASUS x299 prime motherboard with

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built-in Thunderbolt 3. the problem is that our Thunderbolt 3 is not working

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and with the distance between our server cabinet and her desktop monitor i can't

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just run a regular displayport cable they're just too flaky because this

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wasn't a planned project my parts choices were dictated less by what i

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think actually makes sense and more by what i had lying around at the office so

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i'll be using this 10 year old swiftech radiator with some screws that i found

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in a bin this ice ball

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reservoir which was the only res that i

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could find that was really designed to be mounted in a horizontal case it's

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even got RGB lighting although it uses a weird connector and i don't think i have

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any way of hooking it up and finally the z490 aorus extreme water force this is a

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motherboard that words cannot describe how little sense it would make to

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actually buy but it was one of the few

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sitting in our warehouse that happens to be not ASUS and have built-in

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Thunderbolt 3. so i'll be equipping this puppy which is the only reason i'm water

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cooling the system at all with a core i9 10 900k now i need to put this down

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i just looked up how much this thing actually costs it is 2

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000 us dollars for that kind of price it

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better come with a flippin amazing

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accessory package i mean to be clear it's loaded for bear in terms of

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features it's got super robust power delivery it's got three m.2s 10 gigabit

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networking and two and a half gigabit networking and of course the big

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highlight is the included full cover water block

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what is going on here part of me feels like no matter how high

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end i go this motherboard is going to be shaming me for not spending more on the

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things i plug into it this RAM is particularly you know unworthy 16 gig

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sticks of 3 200 megahertz

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gross good lord that is a lot of thermal

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pads it's like a handful this does not

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look any less complicated than just buying a normal motherboard and water

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blocking it after them look at all these screws oh you've got to be kidding me

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here i was all set up to put on the thermal pads you don't have to apply

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them the first time that's only if you need to reapply it oh for crying out

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loud Gigabyte glad i saw that now i just got to plug the RGB connector in and

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line the thing up with the thing

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yeah yeah we good oh nice oh oh nailed

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it you know it's funny the wife made an offhand comment about how like she's not

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getting a five thousand dollar Intel extreme tech upgrade why didn't i get

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one of those for her i'm getting it for all the other staff i'm like han you're

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getting a 5 000 extreme tech upgrade awkward thing i just blew the entire

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budget on your motherboard i feel like a bad person soft tubing water cooling

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this thing but like i don't want to spend that much time on it come on this

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block has a super cool flow path so it can go down through the CPU and bypass

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here or go to the chipset so this helps keep the restriction low while also

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allowing it to do a great job of cooling everything involved and now that the

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hard part's out of the way all i gotta do is a quick board swap wait a minute

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normally when you got thunderbolts on board you have a displayport in how does

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that work see this is what i'm talking about you got your displayport

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injection here from the GPU a quick google search tells

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me this may work or i may need a Gigabyte titan ridge add-in card or

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something because it's water cooled there's really no way for me to find out

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without actually building up the system which is okay because the other

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motherboard that i'll use if this one doesn't work is

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also pre-water-cooled which is why i was resigned to just building a water-cooled

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system because they were the only two motherboards of Thunderbolt in the entire building can you imagine

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engineering a whole motherboard for like six people to actually buy it

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and then one of them to put an air cooled graphics card in it

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it's crazy how many builds i'm like pulling all the SATA devices out of now

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unless you need local storage which if you've got a nas you don't

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there's just no reason to have these cables anymore you can get eight

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terabyte m.2s i mean they're not affordable but

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you already got a two thousand dollar motherboard like

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good enough cable management for a wipey pc

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time for some water cooling it's got a mounting bracket

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so i can put it like there but wow how would that make any sense turns

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out it is not well regarded but that's okay because i'll be using a d5 to

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assist it so in the event that this does fail i'll be good to go

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i just gotta find somewhere to mount this stupid thing so that's it we're

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going right there

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oh sick yep

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oh shoot i kind of wish i'd plugged in the

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front panel connectors before i did this we're gonna get some sleep we'll come

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back to it tomorrow while i was sleeping a wild helper

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appeared as i was test fitting the radiator i was reminded of a couple of

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significant oversights in the design of this case which of course are on me

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since this is a custom design case in the front bay of fans there is

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interference from the usb ports and the power and reset switch so there's

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nowhere to really fit this tank without cramming it in there in a way that can

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break the power switch which i have done on my case and for this one there's a

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ridge here that makes it so that you can't actually get a screwdriver in to

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screw in the fans and the radiator and that is unless you like disassemble the

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whole thing and then put it together after the fact the boy says we're gonna

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go about it this way and just uh

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if we gotta sacrifice some cables and mash them then that's what we're gonna

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do now this is an older style radiator it's

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uh super dumb it has the actual tubes for the coolant right under

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where the screws go in can you imagine how that would cause a problem yeah so

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that means we have to double check the length of these screws and i think

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they're too long you can see they pop out a little bit fortunately we have new

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screws that i brought oh yeah

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it's absolutely perfect okay don't let it don't let it you got to go in

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straight yeah keep going there you go perfect now my boy we need to do

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who am i talking to the camera or the kid we need to do tubing because i don't

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want to do any maintenance on this ever i'm using an extremely non-porous walled

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tubing this is the same stuff that we used for six six workstations one CPU

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now that i'm on the last tubing run it can go one of two places it can either

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go back to the motherboard monoblock or

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we could water cool the graphics card which would make the whole thing

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actually look nicer and obviously the graphics card would then be waterproof i

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did bring a block it's like right here propping up the case

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i just really don't feel like it what do you think boy should we spend a whole

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bunch of extra time to water cool the graphics card

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no i mean what could go wrong let's actually try a smaller funnel

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that's tiny yeah well we're gonna go slow if we're gonna break it might as

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well at least get it on camera okay just pour nice and slow okay slow wait wait

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wait go back go back come back back okay go okay

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you can't dump it like that gotta go slow

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oh okay that's not bad now to find out if the thing still works uh boy you want

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to hit the power button oh that's not a good sign

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after fully stripping down the board it's no more obvious what caused the

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failure than before i thought now maybe some liquid got on there that i didn't

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notice but nothing it's bone dry

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so the only explanation i can come up with now is that maybe the mounting

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pressure of the water block was too much and crushed some of the traces inside

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the pcb because i can't see any physical damage on the surface i have had this

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happen before but i didn't think it was that tight

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at any rate back there is the new board a z490 aqua from

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azeroth see what i'm talking about the only Thunderbolt boards i had were

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water cooled ones so let's give this one a shot now that i'm using a completely

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different motherboard it feels only right to tell you a little bit about it

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the z490 aqua is from asrock it similarly comes with a pre-done water

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cooling solution except it doesn't cool the chipset it only does the power

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delivery CPU and 10 gigabit networking chip it also has three m.2s it also has

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Thunderbolt three it's got a couple of them it does have the DisplayPort in so

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i'm sure that this one's actually gonna work in my experience with asrock's

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Thunderbolt 3 at least on their x570 aqua has been pretty positive so far and

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it's a veritable bargain comparatively speaking at only 1100 us dollars so

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let's let's put it in finally fire this thing up kudos to asrock by the way this

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thing is so much more user friendly all the little grommets on the board are

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pre-applied there's so many fewer screws i'm

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i'm liking it i'm liking it it has not been my day i just realized i

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hooked the inlets of both pumps up to each other this thing would have like

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burned itself out or not freaking

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cooled at all if i had actually managed to turn it on with the previous

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motherboard not that that was the problem with the previous motherboard

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because we never got that far but

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also all these tubing runs just need to be redone now because they're not quite

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long enough to reach where they now need to go so what happens when you're like

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you know i'm feeling ambitious i'm not just gonna fix the wife's machine i'm

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gonna make a video about it and i don't even need no stinking film crew i'm just

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i'm yolo in

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it find out if it works

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all right there we go oh we got a display i just got to get this stupid

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reservoir filled takes forever

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and it's in the rack so all that remains is to leave this for one minute and let

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the screen go to sleep and see if it wakes up

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finally test time

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yay that was all i asked

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video maybe you just love videos where you see me tearing my hair out um how

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about the one where we lost all our data that's a good one that's oh yeah it's

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off oh it's a roller coaster
