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youtube gives us a community guideline strike if we make a video saying that

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the WAN Show is live what the heck there we go uh what do you mean i don't know

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what was going on with that i don't know i like it i think it's a good look cool yeah yeah let's leave it

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up i mean it can't be any worse than my hair anyone who skips through the

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timestamps is just gonna be like what is that that was one of the big takeaways

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actually from the um the whole controversy around tampon gate

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you know about tampon gate right yeah with the amazon go store where i was

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holding up a pad and i'm like i stole tampons from the amazon ghost store that

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was that was so disruptive that on my twitch stream we had to i had to like

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address what was going on and i watched your video but couldn't have the audio

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on because the levels were weird so it was like blowing people's ears out so i was like i'm pretty sure he's just

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saying all this stuff and then i watched it the next day and i was right i was

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like yeah and i had never even seen the video it's just like i'm pretty sure

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this is about what's going on so one of the things that came out of

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that was that i am a tech bro okay which i had never heard before i

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had never heard the term tech i've never heard of that either but yeah kind of tech bros are uh they're they're

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they're like they're bros you know like bro bro yeah bro they're those but

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they're tech uh and they exclude everyone because

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they're like tech bro i don't think we exclude everyone actually it has more to do with us just not really knowing how

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to talk to anyone yes if you want the stereotypical tech

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tech person if social awkwardness is exclusion than like yeah yes

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the most exclusionary group of all time

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um we love each other though so we just don't know how to tell each other i mean

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luke and i know how to tell each other we're special like that special bond um

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but then i i have i have grown to accept that i have bad hair

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okay so i i'm okay with it i'm just gonna you know what there i'm not making

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it worse i'm not making it better it's just bad my thing mostly fell down the

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only i just go like that a whole bunch and then apparently it's fine so okay

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yeah sure yeah whatever get wrecked um why don't you try it got a lot of

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so what do i do just like sweep it to one side like finger rake to one oh it's

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gelled yeah well that's not that's not gonna work just doing it anyways

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we're gonna hope for the best today how's that

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it actually looks all right

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oh seriously there's one little bit up in the back but the rest of it it looks

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less gel then it looks like it's just kind of sweeping over

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okay yeah the back screwed up

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because the gel is holding so i'm using like hand oils yeah

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yeah remember that bit about our exclusionary

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maybe this is why the tech news

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brought to you by people who don't look very credible

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yeah yeah yeah so NVIDIA leaks in pictures motorola under fire for

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coppering copying the iphone 10.

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oh i'm just doing this okay thunderfoot takes issue with Techquickie and the

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core i9 9900k confirmed to be soldered

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rumor i can't get the chat on twitch in trout

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just like not here

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just subscribed with twitch prize linuxfan724

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please be subscribed to the wrong channel i think you were thinking of Linus not Linux

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i'm especially a fan of um all right so we've got a great show

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for you guys today i think we already ran through some of the topics wonderful

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but that's true actually we uh

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first we're gonna go for it or we're gonna talk about other stuff oh i was actually just gonna go

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totally totally off um

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off script and i don't know i don't know how to spell it

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which is really unfortunate

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why can't i find this no that's no definitely not it let me

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help no one has any idea what we're looking for no one has any idea what

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we're looking for we'll find

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it there we go so guess who we have here

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in the studio today dude i found it first you know what well i

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uh hate you so we have

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conflicts and he doesn't actually know that i was

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planning to have him come say hi on the WAN Show but basically he does like

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robot stuff and like stem stuff and

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this video right here is an unboxing and let's play with the super Anthony

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ultimate battle humanoid robot with 45

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kilograms servo punch and uh come on come on come on come on

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over here let's talk about let's talk about what we shot today

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so this is his video which you're not going to copyright strike me over this

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no no no no no please is this fair use yes it's fair fair use

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no copyright strike no copyright okay no copyrights right good you heard it from

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you heard it from him say say hi everyone hey guys

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i don't know i don't know how many people are like spazzing out right now conflicts

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butt flies says who

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uh what else we got someone uh mandry two says corn flakes corn flakes i think

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they're just messing with you guys because good ol good old twitch chat

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they are all about being well twitch chat yeah um so

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basically what we were doing today here i'm just going to throw your thing up here actually yeah do you want to run

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them through what we did today because it's pretty cool get a little closer to the strike

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so uh we actually chair all right no problem

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that's fine i really hadn't planned to do this

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so uh we went ahead and made a video uh

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showcasing super Anthony now super Anthony's a robot that's actually been

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out for some time but they're finally launching it on kickstarter uh where you

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can actually go ahead and buy it uh it's a fighting robot now uh the unique thing

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about this robot is it's really really strong it's got a 45 kilogram

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punch force and uh both Linus and i actually fought against each other and

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did a few different things so uh definitely uh do stay tuned for that

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video once it comes out yeah we completed some challenges if you want to

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learn more about the robot in the meantime you can check out uh conflicts

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video here surprisingly agile oh yeah definitely oh yeah no definitely and

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it's controlled with like a knock-off playstation controller so it's actually

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very intuitive there it is punching uh are you gonna

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show us the uppercut or is that the uppercut uh that's a bunch yeah and

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there's a jab how many servos does this thing have

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like 12 14 something like that it's about like 16 or 18. 16 or 18 yeah so

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it can do some pretty crazy stuff it can pick itself up off the floor uh both

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from the front and the back i think he's probably going to demo that in a second

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here and without spoiling too much

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i will say that the video we shot together today

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involves breaking eggs

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and definitely also involves a

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custom-built battle robot arena

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that ed and james spent the better part of the last two days building yeah so um

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i mean really the reason that this collab came about was that um what are

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they called again limitless limitless iq limitless iq so limitless iq the makers

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of the super Anthony actually sent robots to both conflicts

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and me and then when both of us followed up and

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said hey you know what would be great if we could

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get a couple of super Anthony's and battle them

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um their response was sorry we only have a limited number of samples you can only

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have one to which i believe we both replied

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look i don't need you to send another one for me to keep or whatever

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we i just really think it would enhance the video a lot if we could fight them

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can can you just lend me one to which they responded

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um no we can't do that we only have a limited number of samples now we went

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one step further actually before we reached out to khan here

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um this is this is great before we reached out to him

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we kind of said well we don't really think there's a video in here if we

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don't have two of them to fight so do you want it back then and they went no

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and we went okay so on the one hand your story is you don't have enough samples

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to send out enough of them but the flip side of it is you don't want it back

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so we were like okay well we want to make a video about this because this is

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cool so we're just going to find someone else

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who has it fly them out with the robot which was a

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breeze to get through tsa right uh no it was not i had three tsa agents literally

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investigate me and to the full extent like they almost like thought i was

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gonna like even like hijack the plane or something with the robot robot

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with your 18-inch robot

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in the future i mean if it was six foot that's a different situation

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but you know yeah that's crazy yeah so uh so yeah we had a

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lot of we had a lot of fun today though i think the final video is not going to

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be particularly informative but it'll definitely be fun if you want

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the informative spin on super Anthony go check out complex's channel all right

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thanks man

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yeah we had we had a lot of fun today yeah sorry we have no other way to get

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past that um i saw the arena um and i saw and i

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saw james messing around with the robot but just by itself yet he had it like roll

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over which was insane yeah yeah and he showed it like crouching and jumping and

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punching it actually has a special move where it can do like a head level side

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kick geez yeah but you have to have it's really nimble you have to have the

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friction on the floor just right when you think back to like you know some of

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the viral robot videos out there when there's that like soccer game and they

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just keep falling over no i don't i haven't seen it with that

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video robot soccer is probably all you need to actually look at

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uh soccer uh

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htwk robot spl finals does that sound

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familiar at all that does so does the one below that one on the on the search

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be human versus htw just like jump into it yeah german over here hold on a

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second guys i'm gonna just screen share here real quick you haven't seen this i have not seen

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this there's a few of these okay um but

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like just you can just jump into it and they like they like try to dive to stop

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the ball but it's like okay

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like you see what i mean like when when this is what most people have seen being

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able to see the super Anthony like jump around and kick and punch and dodge and

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roll and all this kind of stuff was like pretty impressive one thing i think

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about this is i'm not sure that they're actually controlled

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no i don't think so yeah i think they're like sensors and stuff so that's a totally different field

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but time for it time for it

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no is he going to get it

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come on kick it in

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the goalie's just like completely checked out

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but yeah when like some replay

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when like i think most of what people have seen in terms of robots it's like

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this the uh the robot falling off the stage in japan and like all this other

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kind of stuff yeah yeah robot dies of

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robocup 2016. it's like it's fall over all the time

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and like this is not the experience that you have with the super Anthony

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uh well you know at least not that i saw uh yeah

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no he fall he falls over a fair bit um especially because his traction on

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the floor is not super right uh amazing yeah he just has like

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metal paddles and remember too we're fighting

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so part of the goal of fighting is making something fall yeah a lot of the

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fighting ended up being less like like rock and soccer robots like clear punch

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clear contact and you know he falls

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well okay but then it ended up being a lot of like punching kind of getting

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hooked on the other robot on the withdrawal and then pulling him over and

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then ripping him and then and then like rolling on the floor like ground

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fighting lots of fighting is rolling on the floor maybe they're trying to make

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it more realistic yeah sure let's go let's go and you know okay i am the

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benefit of the doubt you know how someone in twitch chat uh tried to say

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cornflakes or whatever uh yes i thought he might have been legitimately trying

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to do a play on words with conflicts like conflict so we asked him that today

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and then no he was like yeah sure

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like it had never occurred to him before i don't think when i first heard the

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channel name i thought it was conflicts because it was robot fighting it was

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from one i didn't okay he actually started out with um

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with these like uh effects videos where he was he did like minions in real life

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it got like 20 million views or something stupid like that and then

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dreamworks or whoever owns the minions copyright struck him

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yeah took it down um

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and so now he's doing mostly like robots and

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stem stuff and tech stuff yeah cool

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all right should we should we do a tech news topic no i guess

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should we respond to thunder foot sure

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okay or we can do a tech news should we do the NVIDIA thing give people what

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they want real quick sure and then and then jump over to this thing i'll get

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i'll get this ready in the meantime sure uh so the NVIDIA leaks

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wow so surprised um after siggraph we all kind of knew this was coming uh

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we not have leaked specs about what this

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is a ridiculous sentence uh but rtx 280

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is more or less confirmed i don't know if it's actually been confirmed but

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there was like very very obvious hints in the NVIDIA

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video if you kind of picked through the chat conversations that were happening

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on screen it was super obvious they're calling it rtx and it's 20 series not 11

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series um so because sure there we go

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why not i guess um the GeForce rtx

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2080 ti that's going to take a little

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bit to get used to going to mess with me yeah for a very long time rtx why would

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they why would they have letters that

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could abbreviate from Radeon technologies oh geez

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i didn't think about that but i'm astonished that they didn't if you're sitting around thinking of a name like

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you'd have to break it down what is it supposed to bring ray tracing oh come on

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okay sorry we should do a tech cookie on that by the way yeah probably yeah um

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yeah i'll let john know but like

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g has been NVIDIA's thing for a very long

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time r has been ati AMD's thing

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for a very long time um so

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what's happening to g-force then

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i don't know so the rumors rivers

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so that so the rumors like yes

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is that there will be rtx and gtx cards

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but i don't know that that has been confirmed at all and with NVIDIA's big

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push towards ray tracing i don't really foresee that being a

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thing yeah so it'll have 11 gigs of RAM gddr6

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memory that is and a 352 bus that

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doesn't sound right i would have thought it would be 348. uh okay i mean i'm yeah

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don't quote me the gddr6 memory is apparently going to be clocked at 14

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gigabit per second okay and um

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also there will be an rtx uh let me have

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a look uh 2080 and that'll have 2944 cuda cores

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not 3072 as previously speculated and it'll have eight gigs on a 256-bit bus

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now what would you say really interesting about this would be

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that um if NVIDIA launches their ti card with

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the um 50 wider memory bus

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and their non-ti card at the same time this will be the first time in a while

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that we've seen them actually launch a big core do you think it's gonna

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happen right when they bring out a new architecture i mean if there are rumors

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circulating at this point when we are a week from when they are

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less than a week from when they're rumored to be launching it yeah if there

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are rumors circulating where there's smoke there's fire at this

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point i've i've yet to see um a video card that's rumored to be

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launching next week with names and specs

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and many different sources being reported by many different news

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organizations um and everyone pretty much being on the

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same page about it i've yet to see that not turn into a real product launch so

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there you go if you're waiting for a graphics card then uh

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quick go sell yours now so the people who aren't paying

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attention to the tech news will see it and buy it yeah and then and

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then you can get your new graphics card that presumably will be faster but then

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maybe only in ray tracing applications wouldn't that be horrible well they're

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probably going to do the same kind of thing in terms of

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honestly i didn't watch the siggraph stuff whoops but they might have already

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but they are probably going to do the same kind of thing they did with the last launch with pascal where they're

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like it's three times faster in this specific application in vr

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related applications yeah so what i

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what i kind of am picking up here is if

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you look at the 1080 ti and you look at the 1080 i think there's what about a 30

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performance delta give or take 20 to 40

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somewhere in that range and what they had done the last couple

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generations was they had launched the step down GPU

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at a performance level that was competitive or a little bit better than

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last gen so 980 for example was a little bit faster than

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780 ti 1080 was a little bit faster than 980 ti

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even though this was the step down chip competing with the big chip from the

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last gen yeah if they're launching both 2080 and 2080 ti

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does that tell us that 2080 wasn't fast

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enough to be an upgrade for 1080 ti owners and they couldn't wait another

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six to eight months which has been the typical gap

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dun dun

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that would honestly line up a little bit more with like i know they do marketing stuff all the time and people want to

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sell cards so they never really want you to think something's coming until like

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super close to before it's coming yeah i mean like two months ago didn't you just

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say there's no new cards oh you think that no

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no there's no way they're just pascal with ray tracing to them

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why not it would not be the first time

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yeah it would be the first time for that well it would not be the first time that

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they essentially rebadged this would be like a rebadge with an upgrade that's

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even better there's no way that's all they've been working on for the last two years no but it might need it might be

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all they need to release

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the problem NVIDIA okay the problem here is that

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i i haven't seen any benchmarks for the

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touring based um

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the touring based are they are they quadros or teslas they're quadros so i

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haven't seen anything for the new cards they just launched at siggraph so i have

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no way of knowing how similar how similar those are to the pascal ones

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there's no way that's right it's probably not maybe someone in twitch chat is uh it's fun to think about

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something helpful here

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there's a bunch of people in a second they said touring is volta iterated

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and ray tracing is enabled by tensor cores

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so volta versus pascal i actually don't

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know clock for clock cuda for cuda core for

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cuda core how much that improved

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holy crap you don't think the new ones are just

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basically the old ones

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it's been a while since we've had that you know it's maybe with ray tracing

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bolted to them it might it might be time

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oh boy that would actually be very disappointing

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um okay well on that they do have much faster

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memory the memory is real fast

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yeah okay so good job miners

00:21:02.320 --> 00:21:08.720
right isn't mining like kind of dead right now

00:21:05.919 --> 00:21:12.559
uh i mean it's it's lower than it has been in the past but i

00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:16.960
know people that are still profitable really it's just you have to be in the

00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:20.720
right location because of right okay

00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:24.960
right and you're only profitable if you catch out or if you cash out that's the

00:21:23.360 --> 00:21:29.120
right time yeah and that's okay that's one of the ways that people have made a lot of money is they're actually my and

00:21:27.760 --> 00:21:32.799
who knows do not do this because i'm saying this

00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:36.240
yeah we're not recommending it to be very clear

00:21:34.320 --> 00:21:40.960
very clear about that yeah there have been people not you unless it is you i

00:21:39.360 --> 00:21:45.840
don't know there has been people that have mind

00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:49.679
when it's very not profitable right and gathered a bunch of coins and

00:21:47.760 --> 00:21:53.120
not sold and then it's gone up and then they've sold

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so because like mining while it's profitable

00:21:54.159 --> 00:21:58.880
is only actually better if you're selling like every day

00:21:57.679 --> 00:22:02.880
right right because it only actually matters

00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:06.559
when you sell sure except it's been down for like a while now except it often

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goes down at the beginning of the year and then doesn't do very well in the middle of the year and then comes up

00:22:09.280 --> 00:22:15.840
near the rest of the like the latter half of the year so who the heck knows

00:22:14.320 --> 00:22:20.000
man all right then i kind of hate mining but

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whatever um speaking of things that uh that we

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hate um i don't hate motorola but this

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was posted by roar and z roars nz on the

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forum and this is pretty brutal

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so hit me with your best shot luke mining

00:22:37.600 --> 00:22:42.799
tips no which one of these is an iphone 10 and

00:22:41.280 --> 00:22:50.080
which one of them is motorola's new phone no no you don't get to look anymore nope what what which one was

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which what which one was which

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i have no idea okay hold on hold on hold on get ready

00:22:54.320 --> 00:23:01.840
get ready i didn't see it that much okay you can see it again go ahead

00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:06.559
and it's gone which one's an iphone 10 i i can't i

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can't say with like an educated guess i don't know they're so similar i'm gonna

00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:13.919
randomly okay which one which one well okay the right one

00:23:12.159 --> 00:23:18.240
is the iphone 10 yeah yeah yeah okay because you can cheat now i was trying

00:23:16.320 --> 00:23:21.679
to ignore this yeah because that's pretty clear so i was just being like

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okay well they could have swapped that onto the thing but outside of this which

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is like hello i'm Android yeah um and especially the icons below it outside of

00:23:29.679 --> 00:23:36.720
that i can't tell at all isn't that brutal did they ch is it

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literally the same frame oh look at the

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back wow

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yeah i know right like

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what are you doing there bud like is this the same panel from samsung

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that's what i want to know because the curvature

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looks identical i haven't seen the did they advertise it with that color splash

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on it right did they because this is where at the top one of my biggest

00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:09.360
points of confusion was like did they just swap over the clock just to trick

00:24:07.600 --> 00:24:14.720
people that's why i was like what i don't know no no no this is a different phone

00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:18.559
so they even put the flash between the two rear cameras here and

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like so on the one hand i am far from the

00:24:22.080 --> 00:24:28.000
world's biggest apple apologist

00:24:25.600 --> 00:24:31.120
um but that's it's neither am i you're currently making a

00:24:30.159 --> 00:24:36.080
video about freaking trying to fix their

00:24:33.679 --> 00:24:40.480
stupid imac but like that's brutal

00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:46.240
that's design your own phone guys and i'm i'm not necessarily on apple's side

00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:51.120
with the whole lawsuit going on between them and samsung that's been going for

00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:55.279
about what seven years now or whatever over the original galaxy s and all the

00:24:53.679 --> 00:25:02.480
similarities that board of the iphone or whatever samsung has for the most part

00:24:59.600 --> 00:25:06.799
tried to do their own thang separate from apple the colors for a

00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:11.279
very long time the colors recently too they've really departed there this

00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:17.919
is brutal this is very brutal this is a brazen and blatant rip-off

00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:24.240
yeah brazen indeed i like that um thank you thank you i i worked hard on that

00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:24.240
forty dollar word

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um

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so i don't know imac again the argument that's raging right now is

00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:39.760
are these are these unique design elements the

00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:43.679
notch the camera placement um the wallpaper or is this just now standard

00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:47.760
building blocks of a phone and we shouldn't care about this kind of thing

00:25:46.080 --> 00:25:51.360
who are you with on this one i'm with apple in this one

00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:55.440
to be completely honest that's brutal there's like there's there's even little

00:25:53.840 --> 00:25:58.640
things that they could have done to make it a you know just marginally different

00:25:57.840 --> 00:26:04.640
yep um the notch both sides having the notch i don't

00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:06.880
necessarily see that being a huge deal personally

00:26:05.919 --> 00:26:11.679
um way to go you copied apple doing

00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:13.679
something literally no one asked for yeah

00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:16.559
um um hooray

00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:22.880
but like everything it's the it's the fact that

00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:26.159
everything is the same like if they had the notch but the back was different

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:29.600
yeah if they didn't have the notch and the back was the same like at least like

00:26:28.159 --> 00:26:33.760
a little even then i'd be like oh they're trying to make it so that everyone else thinks that you haven't

00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:37.679
you could make it you could make the it's still not great

00:26:35.520 --> 00:26:42.559
but the fact that it's all that way is just at least you could make an argument

00:26:39.679 --> 00:26:46.240
that way and like at least put a notably different wallpaper

00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:50.240
what well you can i mean

00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:54.880
when they do something like that something completely blatant like the

00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:57.760
wallpaper you can tell that they're not they're clearly not

00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:02.400
targeting us they're not targeting the tech

00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:06.400
i think it's intentional confusion to a certain degree yeah yeah yeah i think

00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:09.600
they're i think they're targeting i saw ads for this one that looks like that

00:27:08.159 --> 00:27:13.600
one let me i think so i think it's i think it's i

00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:18.080
think it's going that way that's not cool i don't know if uh lenovo which is

00:27:16.159 --> 00:27:21.919
motorola's parent company now uh they own the brand i don't know if they have

00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:25.200
responded to this but uh i i would be interested to hear what

00:27:23.600 --> 00:27:28.960
they have to say for themselves if they're smart they'll probably just say

00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:34.559
nothing and hope the whole thing blows over but uh

00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:37.200
someone in the sorry it's not helpful

00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:41.039
because apple makes a lot of noise about getting copied or people ripping off

00:27:39.360 --> 00:27:46.559
their design or you know it being frustrating to be you know the

00:27:43.840 --> 00:27:49.600
one who's pushing design forward and

00:27:47.520 --> 00:27:53.840
what's frustrating for me is when things like this happen

00:27:51.760 --> 00:27:58.480
it adds a lot of weight to apple's whining yeah whereas if apple was just

00:27:56.399 --> 00:28:02.480
constantly whining which they probably would anyway if apple was just

00:28:00.320 --> 00:28:07.760
constantly whining about this stuff but they could never back it up

00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:12.240
then it would actually be damaging to themselves

00:28:09.120 --> 00:28:14.880
but as it is if companies like motorola

00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:18.640
are running out and actually copying the iphone

00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:22.880
it means that every time apple gets to cry about this we have to take it more

00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:28.640
seriously do you get what i mean yo i absolutely do um but but

00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:31.760
maybe it was intentional maybe motorola knew this was going to happen they

00:28:29.760 --> 00:28:36.720
wanted it to happen uh people want us to show the p20 pro that's another now

00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:41.039
we're actually talking about a motorola phone

00:28:38.080 --> 00:28:46.559
on the lan show that's true we normally would not have done that

00:28:43.760 --> 00:28:51.120
so here's the p20 pro it's not the same it's not quite the

00:28:48.399 --> 00:28:54.799
same i actually would say it's a notable depart the notch is way smaller the

00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:59.520
camera setup on the back is different i know it's similar but there's another camera the logo logo's not in the same

00:28:57.760 --> 00:29:03.520
spot not in the center there's branding here there's only so much you can do

00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:07.120
with a phone these days this is clearly a different phone

00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:10.799
whereas that motorola phone was not

00:29:08.399 --> 00:29:13.520
clearly a different phone and that's like if i was if i was super

00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:19.279
ignorant to phones i wouldn't necessarily know which one of those was the iphone which one wasn't but i would

00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:22.399
know that they were different phones like when you originally showed me that

00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:26.880
thing if the time wasn't there if the like Android clock thing wasn't there i

00:29:25.520 --> 00:29:31.279
would have legitimately thought that they were actually identical phones

00:29:29.840 --> 00:29:36.000
and even then i thought they might have been and someone just photoshopped it over

00:29:33.679 --> 00:29:39.120
um someone in the chat was like your guys'll stream is dead because we don't

00:29:37.600 --> 00:29:43.200
have as many viewers as we normally do do you want to there's like reasons why

00:29:41.679 --> 00:29:46.799
oh we can't promote the stream on youtube yeah we can't uh we can't like

00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.840
normally we would do a video we would upload it to youtube saying hey we're

00:29:48.320 --> 00:29:53.360
live over on twitch click the link in the video description but youtube gave

00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:57.840
us a community guideline strike for doing that before so this is more like

00:29:55.279 --> 00:30:00.799
our organic live streaming viewership through twitch honestly if we wanted

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:05.600
more views on lan show we would just stream it to youtube

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:09.679
our typical youtube stream viewership is over 10 000 concurrents we've had as

00:30:07.520 --> 00:30:14.399
high as i think 20 30 like big big numbers compared to what

00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:20.559
we do over here but honestly WAN Show at this point

00:30:17.120 --> 00:30:22.159
is not really about lots of viewers no

00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:26.080
it's actually probably even better having a slightly slower chat

00:30:24.159 --> 00:30:30.399
yep it's not about lots of viewers it's not about lots of money we could get a

00:30:28.320 --> 00:30:34.840
lot more sponsorship dollars for wancho if we managed it differently yeah like

00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:38.559
if we published it properly as a podcast if we know about the issues with

00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.480
that right no oh yeah apparently we've been doing

00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:47.840
double uploads one of which is usually corrupted for like some period of time

00:30:45.520 --> 00:30:52.000
oh i know yeah anyway yeah Colton's upload is corrupted well why does he

00:30:49.600 --> 00:30:56.559
upload i've told him this i don't know okay yeah i thought he stopped

00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:59.760
okay anyway there are definitely things we could do

00:30:58.159 --> 00:31:04.799
to make WAN Show better but for us WAN Show is just about sort

00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:08.080
of tradition at this point more than anything else

00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:10.960
like luke has better things to do now that he's ceo of Floatplane media quite

00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:15.600
frankly um well this is my like i work more

00:31:13.760 --> 00:31:19.039
hours than normal anyways so my weekend essentially starts like right before

00:31:17.360 --> 00:31:23.679
when show starts in like in how i calculate everything

00:31:21.679 --> 00:31:28.080
this is like this is i'm time off essentially right now

00:31:25.760 --> 00:31:33.520
so yeah we're just we're just kind of chilling doing our thing yeah uh telling

00:31:30.080 --> 00:31:36.240
you about our sponsors like spectrum

00:31:33.520 --> 00:31:40.080
uh oh i got some glasses yeah which ones you want that one

00:31:37.919 --> 00:31:44.480
all right let's see you probably got the lady ones

00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:47.519
actually i like these ones staring at a monitor all day can be hard

00:31:46.080 --> 00:31:52.799
on your eyes and make it tougher to fall asleep spectrum is an affordable long-term solution to staring at a

00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:57.360
computer screen where you still get to stare at the computer screen

00:31:55.519 --> 00:32:00.399
using a software solution like flux and twilight doesn't give you the same type

00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:05.600
of filtering that these do and spectrum's lineup includes many

00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:08.960
stylish frames uh high high quality products with a one year warranty low

00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:13.200
color distortion so even though you're filtering blue light you're still not

00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:18.240
looking at just the entire world as though it has a big yellow

00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:20.080
like sheet of you know cinefoil on it

00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:24.080
and the highest rated among their competitors on amazon so they are

00:32:22.080 --> 00:32:28.159
primarily focused around canadian and u.s customers but they are expanding to

00:32:26.159 --> 00:32:31.120
europe and they offer shipping internationally

00:32:29.919 --> 00:32:34.159
next up this is interesting

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:38.480
well now that you did i feel like i need to do it

00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:45.600
i think you did it better did i yeah i think so hold on let's try it let's try

00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.600
again okay you go first

00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:53.279
we'll let the audience judge okay hold on let's remember same time

00:32:51.360 --> 00:32:59.360
okay well we'll let twitch chat just spam it and tell us who did it better

00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.360
okay okay ready three two one

00:32:59.600 --> 00:33:05.679
damn it okay

00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:10.320
i think you won i just got cracked up oh okay okay okay okay hold on hold on hold

00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:13.679
on no i'm just buddy i'm doing a good job i'll light my cheek i'll bite my

00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:17.679
cheek all of chad is getting timed out

00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:22.760
automatically by the bot right now so there's that

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okay

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that was my weakest one i want i want to see what what twitch

00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.120
dad says

00:33:31.919 --> 00:33:38.000
i saw a lot of me yeah i think james apparently james

00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:41.519
james wins good job james late laser james

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it's hard to tell the difference i'm actually using one of their backpacks right now i quite like this one so this

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:51.520
is the moss organizer does yours have the orange inside um i think i rave

00:34:49.200 --> 00:34:55.679
about this like every time yes it does but i love that and you use it every day

00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.320
so do you notice it uh when i'm looking for something in the bottom of my bag

00:34:56.879 --> 00:35:03.440
yeah it's easier to find i can't now let's see if the one that they're

00:35:01.200 --> 00:35:06.480
promoting on the show actually has i'm sure it does i think they all do oh

00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:11.920
really yeah i think that's kind of their thing because their logo is orange right so it's got an expansion zipper so you

00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.800
can increase the capacity or decrease it yeah personally i don't find that that

00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:19.040
useful because i want my maximum capacity all the time i do the same so

00:35:16.720 --> 00:35:23.200
much stuff but uh it's slightly wider and thinner oh it's got a wider and

00:35:20.720 --> 00:35:27.280
thinner quick access pocket so is that uh this one i don't know what the quick

00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:31.520
access pocket is but there you go this opens up a lot

00:35:28.720 --> 00:35:37.200
this is some of the thread used to make the black pack i think they

00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:40.880
meant backpack no that's the name of this oh the black oh i thought it was

00:35:39.040 --> 00:35:44.560
the organizer well whatever oh the black pack oh cool yeah so it's apparently

00:35:43.040 --> 00:35:48.880
really strong this is a handwritten note in here some

00:35:46.560 --> 00:35:52.240
of our sponsors are hilarious i love that kind of stuff hilarious i think

00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:56.640
that's super cool okay whoever wrote that note 10 out of 10.

00:35:54.240 --> 00:35:59.839
okay now don't sandbag this okay well i want to try first

00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:09.359
okay don't sandbag it break it if you can okay

00:36:07.040 --> 00:36:13.839
he's been doing a lot of working out lately yes you got it no no no no the

00:36:11.839 --> 00:36:16.480
tape came off i need more just your hands are small

00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:23.920
i'm sorry you're not sorry you aren't sorry i can't get it out of

00:36:21.359 --> 00:36:27.280
this thing oh i think i kind of did you break it yeah okay so you

00:36:25.839 --> 00:36:29.520
managed to break it yeah can you do it again

00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:36.960
oh wow it cuts into you before it breaks

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.960
i'll tell you that much

00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:42.560
ah i need more okay okay all right not

00:36:41.040 --> 00:36:45.440
bad in terms of other features they've got a sunglass holder in the top that's

00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:49.520
been really handy on mine i have that same thing as well this one doesn't have quite as many

00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:54.480
pockets as mine um frankly i don't end up using them a lot

00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:59.680
of the time anyway oh and this one has their built-in um power strip thing

00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:04.480
so you cable manage that through there's a hole somewhere around here

00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:07.599
uh i can't remember exactly where it is but there's a cable management hole and

00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:11.839
then it's got a regular outlet and it's got a couple of usb ports so the idea is

00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.839
you can actually have all your devices and stuff like cable managed into your

00:37:13.680 --> 00:37:19.920
bag so you can charge the whole thing by just oh am i holding it out of frame

00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:23.440
sorry uh by just plugging in this one plug and then it just sits there and

00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:29.200
all your junk inside charges including your laptop because it does have a full ac power i'm sorry for doing that to you

00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:33.680
uh it's got a tablet holder as well as a laptop pouch and uh

00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:38.800
it's got a five year warranty it's got a removable chest strap and uh

00:37:36.720 --> 00:37:42.960
yeah that's pretty much it basically good stuff

00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:47.839
really comfortable um i was using another bag for a little bit before this

00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:51.839
one and i don't remember what this one's called and i don't think there's a label

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:56.000
anywhere that says what it's called but i'm sure you know

00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:00.560
i'm sure you'll find it on their website if it comes to that but see it's got a

00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:04.400
few more little like management things and especially this pocket the second

00:38:02.720 --> 00:38:07.760
pocket i think this one's bigger it's got a few more little things that i

00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:11.520
can put stuff in but i end up just kind of tucking everything into the bottom i

00:38:09.520 --> 00:38:17.760
believe that's just called the moss pack okay so the pack i guess

00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:20.400
so i did i did i busted it twice okay but it worked

00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:24.640
the amount of effort that went into busting one thread was

00:38:22.160 --> 00:38:30.000
was quite high i want to try again it kind of hurts i

00:38:26.640 --> 00:38:31.359
know but i want to do it now

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:36.400
now that you did it i wouldn't have felt that if you couldn't do it

00:38:34.240 --> 00:38:42.079
yeah like it doesn't feel like it's not comfortable yeah i think i almost cut

00:38:38.640 --> 00:38:42.079
myself out like a few times

00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:50.000
okay got it there you go okay okay so there you go moss challenge but it's a

00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:54.320
single thread wow so like yeah no it doesn't feel like i've got yeah

00:38:52.560 --> 00:38:57.839
yeah i've got those that's not a hand wrinkle that really hurts yeah

00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:03.119
why do we do these things

00:39:03.839 --> 00:39:10.560
all right so let's talk about uh thunderfoot's thing so um thunderfoot

00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:14.320
back at it again with another myth busted

00:39:11.680 --> 00:39:18.720
the three million dollar food scanner busted

00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:23.920
so uh basically overall i watched part of the video and a lot of good points in

00:39:20.640 --> 00:39:25.760
here about um these guys

00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:30.560
look how credible she looks that's awesome um just feels like an infomercial

00:39:28.720 --> 00:39:36.880
showing off their molecular scanner that they claim will allow you to uh see the

00:39:33.839 --> 00:39:38.800
um the chemical breakdown of the food

00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:43.680
that you pointed at or point their scanner at and

00:39:41.359 --> 00:39:46.640
use something something infrared something something something something

00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:51.440
something anyway uh the reason we're bringing this up is because

00:39:49.359 --> 00:39:56.480
footage from Techquickie was taken out of context in such a way

00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:59.599
that it appeared as though we had been sponsored by one of these molecular

00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:04.160
scanner companies and hadn't disclosed it

00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:07.520
and now

00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:11.599
we are not entirely not at fault here what we didn't do

00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:14.720
was validate that these particular molecular scanners because we did bring

00:40:13.040 --> 00:40:18.880
up at least one of them in the video we hadn't validated that they actually

00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:24.720
worked because the video was about the technology in general which does work

00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:29.680
and we mentioned in the video at the end of the video we mentioned that these

00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:33.040
handheld ones were okay so actually midway through the video we mentioned

00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:36.960
these handheld ones are not going to replace the

00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:41.680
much more expensive versions of this technology that are for lab use we do

00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.920
mention that and we also say at the end of the video that

00:40:43.040 --> 00:40:49.920
we can't speak to the efficacy of these particular devices at this time

00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:54.560
but we say you know we're excited to see where this technology heads unfortunately the way that it was

00:40:52.720 --> 00:40:59.040
presented in this video um it made it look as though we were

00:40:57.040 --> 00:41:02.160
endorsing the technology and the product in particular and that we hadn't

00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.920
disclosed some kind of sponsorship another note that we have here i haven't

00:41:04.319 --> 00:41:11.839
seen our version of this video to be completely clear but i know how we make things we could have done a better job

00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:16.560
of saying that we hadn't validated it fair uh but apparently we do say the

00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:20.240
company's claims we don't say that it absolutely works

00:41:18.240 --> 00:41:24.160
this way we say that they claim that they work this way

00:41:23.040 --> 00:41:28.560
so basically i just wanted to pull

00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:31.760
i just wanted to talk to you guys and say hey

00:41:29.839 --> 00:41:35.359
no we were not sponsored yes we could have done a better job of

00:41:33.200 --> 00:41:38.800
making sure that a product that we're using as an example of a technology that

00:41:37.359 --> 00:41:42.560
we're talking about actually works and does not come across

00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:47.119
as endorsed and and we could do a better job of making sure it doesn't come across as endorsed

00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.560
but the fact of the matter is we were not

00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:54.240
sponsored we have nothing to do with that company we've never talked to them

00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:59.119
we've made no effort to get our hands on their molecular scanner and yeah it's

00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:02.640
probably bs based on what i've seen so far

00:42:00.640 --> 00:42:05.760
the other thing that i also don't know i actually i have not looked into this the

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:12.079
other thing that i don't know is how the timing lines up so i don't know if these

00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:14.480
were actually available to try yet

00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:17.280
oh um okay at the time that we made the video so

00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:23.520
when did we make this yeah we're just going to be a lot more cautious about any pieces we do on emerging technology

00:42:21.520 --> 00:42:27.599
but the thing that frustrated me was just that the way it was presented made

00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.599
us look like complete idiots um

00:42:30.640 --> 00:42:35.920
well i think that's kind of his goal right yeah i guess so pretty much ever

00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:42.160
that's his shtick yeah that's that's cool i guess

00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:46.000
all right so next up that's a bit of digging yeah that video

00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:49.280
is kind of old now yeah it's a couple of years old nearing

00:42:47.520 --> 00:42:53.119
a year and a half yep

00:42:50.560 --> 00:42:56.400
always actually we've got other news so this was posted on the forum by

00:42:54.400 --> 00:43:01.599
numlock21 and the original article is from video videocards.com so take that

00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:05.280
for what it is uh let's just be let's just be very clear oh actually hold on

00:43:03.359 --> 00:43:09.760
before we move on uh ran machan 97 asks are you going to

00:43:08.319 --> 00:43:12.960
copyright strike them for using your content improperly no they haven't

00:43:11.839 --> 00:43:20.240
actually okay well we could make the argument that taking it out of context um

00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:23.839
could be improperly but that's something that we would have to

00:43:21.839 --> 00:43:28.800
fight in court that's not something that is as simple as

00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:32.800
because you used our footage it has therefore been used improperly there

00:43:30.640 --> 00:43:38.160
could be a fair use defense there if the argument is made that

00:43:35.520 --> 00:43:41.440
one entity is reporting on something another one has done

00:43:39.839 --> 00:43:46.319
that's how you can get around having a whole lot of footage from a movie with

00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:48.480
just voiceover if you are using it

00:43:46.319 --> 00:43:52.400
in order to critique the movie um so no honestly

00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:55.839
normally we wouldn't even bring up something like this it was just that

00:43:54.079 --> 00:44:00.480
some members of our community that i actually recognized were in the comment

00:43:58.160 --> 00:44:04.079
section on that video saying that they thought we were honest and they thought

00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:08.880
we disclosed our sponsors and i wanted to make sure that you guys know we do

00:44:06.319 --> 00:44:13.280
and never even had contact with them and we have nothing to do with those guys

00:44:11.680 --> 00:44:17.680
aside from picking a topic that maybe was a little

00:44:15.520 --> 00:44:20.720
premature someone brought up tarnishes your brand image perhaps i i don't think

00:44:19.200 --> 00:44:24.880
we're gonna we're gonna do it we're not really in the in the market of signing

00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.160
people yeah we're we're not really uh we're not really a drama channel like we

00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:32.720
don't we don't really do that you know there's been there has been

00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:36.160
far worse things that people have said about us but given that they didn't

00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:42.160
raise the attention grabbed the attention of our community we have just completely ignored them because what's

00:44:40.240 --> 00:44:46.960
the point of drawing attention to it yeah i mean all we've really done at

00:44:44.560 --> 00:44:51.359
this point is give thunderfoot some more adsense revenue and that's really the

00:44:49.200 --> 00:44:54.720
only thing that you accomplish typically through drama so

00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:58.319
um i guess i'm gonna oh yeah okay i guess i'm gonna go off on a tangent here

00:44:56.079 --> 00:45:02.800
i guess i'm gonna kind of um ruin youtube for a lot of the people that

00:45:00.160 --> 00:45:07.839
haven't like clued into this but the vast majority of the drama you see

00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:11.440
is manufactured not all of it but the vast majority not

00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:15.200
all of it but more than you would probably think it is mutually beneficial

00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:20.640
for two entities of some sort or another to

00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:24.960
be feuding you know i wonder if that's the game

00:45:22.720 --> 00:45:28.880
samsung and apple are playing like hold on a second

00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:34.240
hold on a second think about this on a much don't much

00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:38.319
hold on think about this on a much much larger scale fighting and nothing else

00:45:35.839 --> 00:45:45.119
matters yes if apple wants their message to be that

00:45:42.160 --> 00:45:54.319
their brand identity is unique and being copied

00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:57.760
even i bet it costs less to sue samsung

00:45:54.319 --> 00:46:00.960
than it does to market that on tv

00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.079
and if samsung wants their message to be

00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:08.880
that we we forged our own path

00:46:07.040 --> 00:46:14.079
are they not better off fighting apple in court where it will be

00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:19.359
reported on by the same news outlets they would have to buy banner space and

00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:24.480
ad space on maybe do they even care who wins maybe

00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:33.040
whoa now now look normally i don't go all conspiracy

00:46:31.200 --> 00:46:36.560
theory tinfoil hat but

00:46:34.560 --> 00:46:41.200
i do not yes we do we both do that's like part of this show

00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:46.720
well okay not not not okay not implausibly okay i think this is very

00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:49.760
plausible though so then you're not doing it implausibly

00:46:48.720 --> 00:46:52.000
right okay

00:46:52.160 --> 00:46:58.720
okay okay well entire twitch chat mind blown collusion

00:46:59.359 --> 00:47:07.200
all the illuminati eyes bam Linus jones oh no that's not that's

00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:10.880
not what i need oh boy uh don't say the full name apparently that can get you

00:47:08.720 --> 00:47:10.880
like

00:47:16.240 --> 00:47:21.760
the vast majority of the drama that you see

00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:27.359
you know whether it's between actors or singers or i mean a great example of

00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:30.800
this would be like wwe wrestlers

00:47:27.359 --> 00:47:31.680
right that is just so that both people's

00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:36.160
names wwe wrestlers don't even remotely try to

00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:40.160
hide that though not fair that's kind of its own thing well no but the crazy

00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:43.599
thing is some people can do don't see it okay

00:47:41.200 --> 00:47:47.680
that's fair but like it is it is very directly communicated as i know

00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:51.599
yeah i know but what i'm saying is other people aren't

00:47:49.359 --> 00:47:55.760
doing that communication wwe is being fairly transparent it's a show fine

00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:59.359
whatever i i'm just saying i'm busting some bubbles out there it's not my fault

00:47:57.839 --> 00:48:03.760
that that bubble is entirely self-inflicted or that's like yeah okay

00:48:02.160 --> 00:48:09.040
but i'm still busting bubbles and i'm still sorry yeah

00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:14.560
twitch chat twitch chat's going nuts wrestling is real

00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:18.960
yes olympic wrestling is real raslyn ksi versus logan paul

00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:23.839
i don't even know who ksi is logan paul versus Jake paul

00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:26.480
yeah that definitely logan paul versus x

00:48:23.839 --> 00:48:30.720
like a variable yeah one of them is like really sharply on the decline now i

00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:34.720
can't remember which one of the paul's yeah one of them is kind of leveled off

00:48:32.640 --> 00:48:38.400
and the other one is like in a nosedive right now

00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:41.599
oh yeah that's i was talking to um i was talking to conflicts about this earlier

00:48:40.240 --> 00:48:47.599
so he was saying that it was an advantage for me starting up on youtube

00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:50.000
when i did like 11 years ago because the

00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:54.640
playing field was far smaller oh that bit but hold on so the playing field was

00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:59.599
far smaller and i said yes that is an advantage no explosive growth

00:48:57.680 --> 00:49:04.960
but it's also a double-edged sword yes because the audience was much smaller at

00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:10.960
that time so if you can make yourself heard above the

00:49:07.520 --> 00:49:12.960
noise above the vast number of creators

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:18.880
that there are on youtube you have the potential for far more growth than i did

00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:23.839
back then and far faster but if you can't make yourself hurt

00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:25.119
above the noise then you're basically

00:49:23.839 --> 00:49:29.680
hooped which one is it they're both getting

00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:32.960
like lots of subscribers every day

00:49:31.040 --> 00:49:37.359
this is Jake's his monthly views is going back up and his monthly subs is on

00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:43.920
like the tiniest incline ever but technically an incline um

00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:46.000
logan's views is on a decline and his

00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:49.440
subs is more or less flat they're they're both not doing nearly as

00:49:47.680 --> 00:49:53.359
well as they were in july in july they were both freaking kings of the world

00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:58.480
and to put this in perspective this monthly sub count is only marginally

00:49:55.040 --> 00:49:59.359
higher than ours on Linus tech tips so

00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:07.839
like yeah they're big or whatever but they're not like i i would consider us mid mid

00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:11.839
tier yeah um we're not top tier youtubers in the in the sense that like

00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:14.559
because everyone in the world that's like connected to the internet probably

00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:20.960
knows has heard these guys name at some point yeah i don't even they're on tv they're

00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:26.240
in the news yeah casey talked about them okay i

00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:30.160
guess almost every news thing on youtube talked about him at one point for me

00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:34.559
when i divide into tears it's less how much of a household name you are because

00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:37.520
you know you could find you know ex hollywood actors who have like

00:50:35.839 --> 00:50:42.240
semi-retired but still make youtube videos or whatever that's not their feel

00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:47.920
like so okay when i divide it into two disney my point is that i don't take

00:50:44.720 --> 00:50:49.839
like the entire uh yeah yeah

00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:53.760
you got to see it as a pyramid not as like some kind of a linear scale

00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:56.960
because if we were to take all the youtubers in existence yeah we're

00:50:55.359 --> 00:51:00.880
probably in the top fraction of a percent yeah that doesn't matter in

00:50:59.040 --> 00:51:05.119
every category but that's not we're still mid-tier because there's only so

00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:10.400
much room at the top and the guys that are at the top are on a very very

00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.760
different level in terms of the momentum that their channels have the number of

00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:19.280
views each of their videos get um so definitely a step down how is a

00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:22.480
five million plus subs channel mid tier uh because there's like a few reasons

00:51:21.040 --> 00:51:26.160
yeah there's far more to life than subscribers yes so here going back to

00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:29.520
these numbers social blade's a great site i actually spend a fair bit of time

00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:34.480
creeping other creators on there it is a great site so Linus tech tips good job

00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:38.240
boys has never done 400

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:45.040
million views in a month Linus tech tips has still done a mere

00:51:42.240 --> 00:51:50.480
one point i think it's about 1.5 billion views ever so to put that in perspective

00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:53.359
in a single month uh logan paul

00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:59.680
did a quarter as many views

00:51:56.079 --> 00:52:02.720
as Linus tech tips has ever done in its

00:51:59.680 --> 00:52:05.440
10 year history

00:52:02.720 --> 00:52:11.440
that is a different tier yeah when you're talking an order of

00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:13.280
magnitude difference in viewership and

00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:17.680
or like like what do what do we do in a month they also what didn't they only

00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:21.119
join youtube well okay i think they had channels before them but did they

00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:26.160
effectively join youtube like two years ago or something so Linus tech tips is

00:52:23.359 --> 00:52:29.760
top month ever here let's have a look uh mind you our trajectory is looking a

00:52:27.520 --> 00:52:33.839
little bit nicer but its top month ever was 68 million views

00:52:34.240 --> 00:52:39.200
which is pretty good it is but

00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:43.680
that is an order of magnitude difference and whenever someone is 10x

00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:47.280
well they get to sit in a higher level of the pyramid

00:52:44.839 --> 00:52:51.440
yeah um and to be clear like i'm not like mad about it or anything it's just

00:52:49.359 --> 00:52:54.960
that you know if i was if i was even a different content sphere there's like a

00:52:53.680 --> 00:52:59.200
lot of things that are different yeah it's not it's not about that it's just

00:52:57.040 --> 00:53:03.440
about like when we're when we're comparing something like our our

00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:07.680
viewership numbers to theirs and that's stuff that we'll do but not

00:53:05.839 --> 00:53:11.839
to you know see who has the biggest dick or whatever it's it's more to do with if

00:53:09.839 --> 00:53:16.319
we observe some kind of a change in our viewership yeah when we go okay is

00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:20.079
google tweaking the algorithm what are they optimizing for we'll go and we'll

00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:24.240
look at other channels known quantities and we'll go okay so the the big

00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:26.720
channels the tier one channels we all see a little different they're going

00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:30.319
this way or they're going this way yep yeah or we'll find some small channels

00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:34.319
that we like to use as a yardstick oh these guys are getting boosted okay so

00:53:32.319 --> 00:53:38.319
maybe youtube is favoring or we'll look at people who upload very prolifically

00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:41.839
or we'll look at people who upload only once a week and we'll go oh interesting

00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:45.359
so they're favoring very frequent uploaders or we'll look at people who

00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:50.400
upload typically longer videos or shorter ones so we can use these metrics

00:53:48.640 --> 00:53:53.200
to have a look at how youtube is tuning the algorithm that's one of the things

00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:59.599
that we spend a fair bit of time on because for better or for worse our job is only

00:53:56.480 --> 00:54:01.760
partially to make videos our job is also

00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:07.200
to make people watch those videos on the youtube platform which behaves like a

00:54:04.319 --> 00:54:10.880
a bucking bronco on acid yeah in terms of its prediction i like that

00:54:08.319 --> 00:54:15.119
descriptive term that yeah to be real though and another thing is um in terms

00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:18.400
of sub count a lot of people subscribe to a channel and then just slowly stop

00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:24.400
watching it especially when the content type changes and like the the content type from back

00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:27.920
when we were at ncx with the like zero editing unboxings yes that are five

00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:32.559
minutes long to what we have now is a drastic change

00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:35.520
and there's people that might prefer the old unboxing style and there's people

00:54:34.160 --> 00:54:38.640
that might prefer now and there's probably a lot of people that don't

00:54:37.200 --> 00:54:41.839
necessarily watch anymore because all they wanted was unboxings but they're

00:54:40.319 --> 00:54:46.079
still subscribed because youtube will just slowly hide our channel

00:54:43.839 --> 00:54:50.480
if you look at a channel like pewdiepie he has changed

00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:55.359
drastically and like a few times yeah so he has like huge

00:54:53.680 --> 00:54:59.359
buckets of users from different and he's been huge every

00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:02.160
time he's changed so he has huge buckets of users from all these different

00:55:00.640 --> 00:55:07.119
segments that are all subscribed to him all the same time that doesn't mean they're all watching right now

00:55:05.520 --> 00:55:11.520
if you look at the subscriber count versus the views it's it's yeah you know

00:55:09.680 --> 00:55:17.440
what this is a great example because it's as close to apples to apples as we

00:55:13.680 --> 00:55:19.200
can do both techwiki and techlinked are

00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:22.960
tech channels so they exist within the tech vertical they are both being

00:55:21.040 --> 00:55:27.040
uploaded from the same ip there's some speculation that your geographical

00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:32.880
location does affect the way that your content gets propagated um they are both

00:55:29.839 --> 00:55:35.920
hosted at least sometimes by the same

00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:38.800
people they are similar lengths they

00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:42.880
both have one baked in sponsor spot so there's a lot of analogs that we can

00:55:40.720 --> 00:55:45.920
find between these two channels but what you're going to see is that like what

00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:51.520
luke was saying because Techquickie has a much older

00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:57.440
audience many of the subscribers from which have sort of died on the vine

00:55:54.960 --> 00:56:01.280
techquicky is going to do let's have a look here anywhere from

00:56:01.040 --> 00:56:06.000
hundred 275 twenty thousand one hundred and ninety thousand three hundred thousand so why

00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:09.760
don't we say anywhere from two hundred thousand to three hundred and fifty

00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.640
thousand one back over the last couple of weeks there's some spiky ones but on

00:56:11.359 --> 00:56:16.400
two hundred to four hundred why don't we say that there we go this one just went up five hours ago so we're not counting

00:56:15.680 --> 00:56:25.359
that now let's go have a look that won't even have updated properly TechLinked which

00:56:21.200 --> 00:56:27.920
has not 2.2 million but only 488 000

00:56:25.359 --> 00:56:40.400
subscribers and let's have a look at our viewership there 335 from a day ago 383

00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:43.680
300 238 286 275 244 238 444 000 276

00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:45.280
another 400 another 400 000 one

00:56:43.680 --> 00:56:50.160
so consider this so back to the whole um

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:54.240
would someone like logan paul be in a different tier than us especially when

00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:58.720
he's doing you know 400 million views a month so yeah he might have only had 12

00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:04.319
million subscribers at that time but given that they were all fresh and you

00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:06.880
look at TechLinked which has one sixth

00:57:04.319 --> 00:57:11.119
as many subscribers or so as techquickie but does similar viewership because its

00:57:09.040 --> 00:57:16.000
subscribers are fresh and you consider how much bigger than

00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:20.319
his engaged audience probably was at that time given that it was a bigger and

00:57:18.160 --> 00:57:23.599
b much fresher that means it's probably more than just

00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:26.960
like a 10x difference i mean we're probably talking more like a 20 or 30 x

00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:31.920
difference in terms of the engaged audience apparently you have you have glitter somewhere on your face and

00:57:29.680 --> 00:57:37.200
twitch chat literally will not stop talking about it i don't know

00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:38.799
i actually drive that car yeah so yeah

00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:43.440
that there's glitter on my face is not surprising my son i'm just i've tried doesn't want to get into it

00:57:41.520 --> 00:57:48.160
i don't blame him it looks like it actually is like sick

00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:50.640
it looks like a sick car i just found out

00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:55.040
that i might be being sent down to san

00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:58.640
francisco in the near future i am so surprised why

00:57:56.559 --> 00:58:04.480
um i don't know you travel all the time sponsored thing okay but no no the

00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:06.799
important thing about san francisco oh boy

00:58:07.520 --> 00:58:14.240
is that oh boy that you should do a video on it is the

00:58:12.160 --> 00:58:18.640
location of lightning motorcycles you shouldn't

00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:21.760
buy one but you should do a video on it you should contact them seriously or is

00:58:20.160 --> 00:58:24.799
it lightning bikes no is it lightning motorcycle yeah there we go

00:58:23.839 --> 00:58:29.200
so i actually have reached out to them good

00:58:27.200 --> 00:58:34.799
since we last talked about it and i have arranged for a test ride nice

00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:38.880
yep uh to buy one just like for a video yeah

00:58:36.319 --> 00:58:41.359
um i told them i was considering buying one

00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:46.400
are you filming it uh you should phone maybe not wow i

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:50.160
don't know a lot it's a really cool bike it's electric and stuff yeah do you

00:58:48.319 --> 00:58:53.440
think i should film it i think so i don't know should we straw pull it yeah

00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:56.640
yeah they're just going to say yes yeah they're the lan show audience like

00:58:55.040 --> 00:59:01.440
if we told them should we make a video of me and luke just eating our boogers

00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:07.119
for like six minutes like seeing who can see who can harvest the most booger like

00:59:04.160 --> 00:59:10.480
they'd probably be into it not that we're saying you guys don't

00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:16.319
have you know great taste

00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:19.440
um you know the most discerning viewers

00:59:16.319 --> 00:59:21.599
but no oh no no no no don't straw pull

00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:24.480
that why not i want to show how to test our theory

00:59:22.799 --> 00:59:27.760
oh okay they're obviously going to say yes i'll do the other one okay just just

00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:31.040
put it just put it in the twitch chat just put it in the twitch chat here on

00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:36.960
screenshot the bike one is my screen's sharing you it's gonna be no no question

00:59:33.359 --> 00:59:36.960
go back go back to your results

00:59:38.160 --> 00:59:43.599
a whole bunch of people in chat are saying boogers yes

00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:51.119
ah oh dude yes is that 80 right now 77 79

00:59:48.720 --> 00:59:55.359
80. we're holding on okay so what we're gonna find out here because i'm about to

00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:58.720
post my poll it's okay is if people would prefer

00:59:57.520 --> 01:00:03.200
boogers or bikes boogers is holding on at 79

01:00:01.520 --> 01:00:08.319
right now okay hold on i need i need a minute here oh

01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:09.920
that's because you're a bikes voter

01:00:08.319 --> 01:00:14.319
there's nothing wrong with being a bikes voter it's a good thing

01:00:12.160 --> 01:00:19.200
it's better than being a booger photo you keep telling yourself that's

01:00:15.680 --> 01:00:19.200
disgusting we would watch that

01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:25.760
i mean like isn't like the popping pimple niche like huge on youtube what

01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:31.680
no yeah no like cysts and pimples and stuff is like a

01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:34.880
huge millions of views can you post that for me i'm not logged in

01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:39.440
you have got to be careful oh did you send it to me

01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:41.760
i thought so i tried

01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:44.960
yes um oh hold on you know what i think i'm fine i'm logged in

01:00:43.839 --> 01:00:48.640
uh hold on no i'm not logged in yet wait

01:00:47.040 --> 01:00:52.000
yes i am logged in and you're sharing my screen i'm logged

01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:57.119
in yeah i'm showing your screen don't worry about it oh oh right right right right okay well whatever i'm logged in

01:00:54.880 --> 01:01:00.480
there we go all right let's see the bike results

01:00:58.640 --> 01:01:05.200
boogers held steady at around eighty percent seventy we're zen at 78. you've

01:01:03.200 --> 01:01:08.640
got it with a thousand votes we're at about a thousand rounds

01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:12.640
all right let's just let me get to the results page here this is ridiculous

01:01:13.200 --> 01:01:21.200
okay okay okay so the audience has spoken they prefer bikes to boogers yeah

01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:28.640
um by a pretty significant margin i am so surprised pretty significant

01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:32.000
yeah 94 versus 78

01:01:28.640 --> 01:01:34.079
is i would say a significant margin

01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:38.240
it's significant significant the word has a freaking yeah no definition i know

01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:42.480
but there's been significant no you're not definition no no

01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:46.799
we're doing this we're doing this right now okay uh

01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:50.799
uh okay i think it's a letter grade difference probably caused by something

01:01:48.799 --> 01:01:55.760
other than mere chance statistically significant okay

01:01:53.680 --> 01:02:01.280
so it's significant it is all right yeah and you know what else is significant

01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:01.280
the end of the win show

01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:07.760
we have to go home can't happen by mere chance

01:02:06.160 --> 01:02:11.680
actually it's happened by chance a lot it has so thanks for watching guys we'll

01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:17.680
see you again next week same bat time same bat channel bye

01:02:17.680 --> 01:02:21.319
cougars are riot

01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:27.040
are you guys doing a games bump

01:02:25.040 --> 01:02:30.079
i'm i'm not going to gamescom i'm going to packs west i don't think i'm working

01:02:28.640 --> 01:02:33.040
there though so meet up um

01:02:32.240 --> 01:02:36.720
yeah so i was invited to gamescom by NVIDIA

01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:42.319
and uh basically i'm at the point now where

01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:46.480
traveling for four days factor in a

01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:49.839
uh a ticket like a plane ride there plane ride back so there's a couple days

01:02:48.160 --> 01:02:53.359
because it's in germany it's not exactly close

01:02:51.359 --> 01:02:57.680
there's no direct flight so it's like a day of travel each way

01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:01.280
plus you know actually being there and attending the event

01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:05.520
i'm at the point now where i'm just like not gonna do that kind of thing anymore

01:03:03.040 --> 01:03:09.520
because um well they they for some insight they they brief you on it

01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:13.839
immediately before the stream the like NVIDIA stream yeah and they

01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:19.280
don't tell you as much as they're gonna as they

01:03:16.319 --> 01:03:23.200
and your embargo is after the stream so there's actually no point in being there

01:03:21.680 --> 01:03:26.559
you might as well be back in the studio you should probably just like be here

01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:30.720
and ready to go just like be on the Techquickie set

01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:34.799
yeah maybe i might just not even or who cares yeah i don't know like

01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:39.760
i don't know i'm i'm getting kind of tired of of manufacturing if it's that

01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:44.720
but if it's that tweaked and a few things added pascal

01:03:43.680 --> 01:03:49.839
i'm getting kind of tired of manufacturers trying to control

01:03:47.680 --> 01:03:54.079
the use cycle yeah um like i've talked about this off stream before but like

01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:59.280
uh this whole thing where there's an announcement embargo and an unboxing

01:03:56.400 --> 01:04:03.280
embargo and a reviews embargo and a freaking

01:04:00.799 --> 01:04:09.520
i don't know new color scheme embargo um you know and to me what it's

01:04:06.640 --> 01:04:13.680
max of is wanting wanting like because none of it's

01:04:11.839 --> 01:04:16.559
they're trying to flex yeah to make you do a whole bunch of pieces of content

01:04:15.520 --> 01:04:21.200
yes and that's that's what it is the problem we don't have a problem doing content

01:04:19.839 --> 01:04:25.200
we'll do content about all kinds of things we uh we lift our threadripper wx

01:04:23.520 --> 01:04:28.000
up to a chiller like there's a commercial chiller you can just buy it's

01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:31.920
for an aquarium it goes down to yeah four degrees yeah and it's like nicely

01:04:30.640 --> 01:04:36.160
self-contained i should show it to you after it's actually really sick it's not even that expensive when you consider

01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:40.880
what a custom water cooling loop can cost um anyway so you know we hooked our

01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:45.839
Threadripper wx up to that um you know overclocked it as high as we could like

01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:49.839
yeah that that's fine but the difference is that a lot of the kind of coverage

01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:54.000
that you are expected to be doing in this announcement on boxing stuff the

01:04:52.160 --> 01:04:57.440
only information they give you is basically marketing bullet points so

01:04:55.839 --> 01:05:00.880
what they're effectively asking for is free advertising and i'm at the point

01:04:59.359 --> 01:05:04.079
now where i don't do advertising for free and you can kind of

01:05:03.200 --> 01:05:09.119
you can read into that whatever you want you know maybe it comes across maybe i come

01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:13.280
across like a prick i don't know i don't think so but at the end of the day if

01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:17.200
you expect me to advertise your product then i expect you to pay me so that i

01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:20.160
can pay my bills and pay my staff and disclose it to the audience and disclose

01:05:18.720 --> 01:05:23.920
it to the audience that's how advertising works and that's why i think

01:05:22.640 --> 01:05:29.359
you don't come across like a prick because that kind of stuff should be disclosed if you want advertising then

01:05:27.359 --> 01:05:35.119
fine but you have to pay for it it isn't free and it should be a transaction

01:05:32.720 --> 01:05:39.599
objective coverage of the product the way that i want to cover it then just

01:05:37.680 --> 01:05:43.039
send the product and we'll do it on our terms yeah so

01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:47.799
that's kind of the way i see it now anyway that's it for the stream bye guys goodbye