youtube gives us a community guideline strike if we make a video saying that
the WAN Show is live what the heck there we go uh what do you mean i don't know
what was going on with that i don't know i like it i think it's a good look cool yeah yeah let's leave it
up i mean it can't be any worse than my hair anyone who skips through the
timestamps is just gonna be like what is that that was one of the big takeaways
actually from the um the whole controversy around tampon gate
you know about tampon gate right yeah with the amazon go store where i was
holding up a pad and i'm like i stole tampons from the amazon ghost store that
was that was so disruptive that on my twitch stream we had to i had to like
address what was going on and i watched your video but couldn't have the audio
on because the levels were weird so it was like blowing people's ears out so i was like i'm pretty sure he's just
saying all this stuff and then i watched it the next day and i was right i was
like yeah and i had never even seen the video it's just like i'm pretty sure
this is about what's going on so one of the things that came out of
that was that i am a tech bro okay which i had never heard before i
had never heard the term tech i've never heard of that either but yeah kind of tech bros are uh they're they're
they're like they're bros you know like bro bro yeah bro they're those but
they're tech uh and they exclude everyone because
they're like tech bro i don't think we exclude everyone actually it has more to do with us just not really knowing how
to talk to anyone yes if you want the stereotypical tech
tech person if social awkwardness is exclusion than like yeah yes
the most exclusionary group of all time
um we love each other though so we just don't know how to tell each other i mean
luke and i know how to tell each other we're special like that special bond um
but then i i have i have grown to accept that i have bad hair
okay so i i'm okay with it i'm just gonna you know what there i'm not making
it worse i'm not making it better it's just bad my thing mostly fell down the
only i just go like that a whole bunch and then apparently it's fine so okay
yeah sure yeah whatever get wrecked um why don't you try it got a lot of
so what do i do just like sweep it to one side like finger rake to one oh it's
gelled yeah well that's not that's not gonna work just doing it anyways
we're gonna hope for the best today how's that
it actually looks all right
oh seriously there's one little bit up in the back but the rest of it it looks
less gel then it looks like it's just kind of sweeping over
okay yeah the back screwed up
because the gel is holding so i'm using like hand oils yeah
yeah remember that bit about our exclusionary
maybe this is why the tech news
brought to you by people who don't look very credible
yeah yeah yeah so NVIDIA leaks in pictures motorola under fire for
coppering copying the iphone 10.
oh i'm just doing this okay thunderfoot takes issue with Techquickie and the
core i9 9900k confirmed to be soldered
rumor i can't get the chat on twitch in trout
just like not here
just subscribed with twitch prize linuxfan724
please be subscribed to the wrong channel i think you were thinking of Linus not Linux
i'm especially a fan of um all right so we've got a great show
for you guys today i think we already ran through some of the topics wonderful
but that's true actually we uh
first we're gonna go for it or we're gonna talk about other stuff oh i was actually just gonna go
totally totally off um
off script and i don't know i don't know how to spell it
which is really unfortunate
why can't i find this no that's no definitely not it let me
help no one has any idea what we're looking for no one has any idea what
we're looking for we'll find
it there we go so guess who we have here
in the studio today dude i found it first you know what well i
uh hate you so we have
conflicts and he doesn't actually know that i was
planning to have him come say hi on the WAN Show but basically he does like
robot stuff and like stem stuff and
this video right here is an unboxing and let's play with the super Anthony
ultimate battle humanoid robot with 45
kilograms servo punch and uh come on come on come on come on
over here let's talk about let's talk about what we shot today
so this is his video which you're not going to copyright strike me over this
no no no no no please is this fair use yes it's fair fair use
no copyright strike no copyright okay no copyrights right good you heard it from
you heard it from him say say hi everyone hey guys
i don't know i don't know how many people are like spazzing out right now conflicts
butt flies says who
uh what else we got someone uh mandry two says corn flakes corn flakes i think
they're just messing with you guys because good ol good old twitch chat
they are all about being well twitch chat yeah um so
basically what we were doing today here i'm just going to throw your thing up here actually yeah do you want to run
them through what we did today because it's pretty cool get a little closer to the strike
so uh we actually chair all right no problem
that's fine i really hadn't planned to do this
so uh we went ahead and made a video uh
showcasing super Anthony now super Anthony's a robot that's actually been
out for some time but they're finally launching it on kickstarter uh where you
can actually go ahead and buy it uh it's a fighting robot now uh the unique thing
about this robot is it's really really strong it's got a 45 kilogram
punch force and uh both Linus and i actually fought against each other and
did a few different things so uh definitely uh do stay tuned for that
video once it comes out yeah we completed some challenges if you want to
learn more about the robot in the meantime you can check out uh conflicts
video here surprisingly agile oh yeah definitely oh yeah no definitely and
it's controlled with like a knock-off playstation controller so it's actually
very intuitive there it is punching uh are you gonna
show us the uppercut or is that the uppercut uh that's a bunch yeah and
there's a jab how many servos does this thing have
like 12 14 something like that it's about like 16 or 18. 16 or 18 yeah so
it can do some pretty crazy stuff it can pick itself up off the floor uh both
from the front and the back i think he's probably going to demo that in a second
here and without spoiling too much
i will say that the video we shot together today
involves breaking eggs
and definitely also involves a
custom-built battle robot arena
that ed and james spent the better part of the last two days building yeah so um
i mean really the reason that this collab came about was that um what are
they called again limitless limitless iq limitless iq so limitless iq the makers
of the super Anthony actually sent robots to both conflicts
and me and then when both of us followed up and
said hey you know what would be great if we could
get a couple of super Anthony's and battle them
um their response was sorry we only have a limited number of samples you can only
have one to which i believe we both replied
look i don't need you to send another one for me to keep or whatever
we i just really think it would enhance the video a lot if we could fight them
can can you just lend me one to which they responded
um no we can't do that we only have a limited number of samples now we went
one step further actually before we reached out to khan here
um this is this is great before we reached out to him
we kind of said well we don't really think there's a video in here if we
don't have two of them to fight so do you want it back then and they went no
and we went okay so on the one hand your story is you don't have enough samples
to send out enough of them but the flip side of it is you don't want it back
so we were like okay well we want to make a video about this because this is
cool so we're just going to find someone else
who has it fly them out with the robot which was a
breeze to get through tsa right uh no it was not i had three tsa agents literally
investigate me and to the full extent like they almost like thought i was
gonna like even like hijack the plane or something with the robot robot
with your 18-inch robot
in the future i mean if it was six foot that's a different situation
but you know yeah that's crazy yeah so uh so yeah we had a
lot of we had a lot of fun today though i think the final video is not going to
be particularly informative but it'll definitely be fun if you want
the informative spin on super Anthony go check out complex's channel all right
thanks man
yeah we had we had a lot of fun today yeah sorry we have no other way to get
past that um i saw the arena um and i saw and i
saw james messing around with the robot but just by itself yet he had it like roll
over which was insane yeah yeah and he showed it like crouching and jumping and
punching it actually has a special move where it can do like a head level side
kick geez yeah but you have to have it's really nimble you have to have the
friction on the floor just right when you think back to like you know some of
the viral robot videos out there when there's that like soccer game and they
just keep falling over no i don't i haven't seen it with that
video robot soccer is probably all you need to actually look at
uh soccer uh
htwk robot spl finals does that sound
familiar at all that does so does the one below that one on the on the search
be human versus htw just like jump into it yeah german over here hold on a
second guys i'm gonna just screen share here real quick you haven't seen this i have not seen
this there's a few of these okay um but
like just you can just jump into it and they like they like try to dive to stop
the ball but it's like okay
like you see what i mean like when when this is what most people have seen being
able to see the super Anthony like jump around and kick and punch and dodge and
roll and all this kind of stuff was like pretty impressive one thing i think
about this is i'm not sure that they're actually controlled
no i don't think so yeah i think they're like sensors and stuff so that's a totally different field
but time for it time for it
no is he going to get it
come on kick it in
the goalie's just like completely checked out
but yeah when like some replay
when like i think most of what people have seen in terms of robots it's like
this the uh the robot falling off the stage in japan and like all this other
kind of stuff yeah yeah robot dies of
robocup 2016. it's like it's fall over all the time
and like this is not the experience that you have with the super Anthony
uh well you know at least not that i saw uh yeah
no he fall he falls over a fair bit um especially because his traction on
the floor is not super right uh amazing yeah he just has like
metal paddles and remember too we're fighting
so part of the goal of fighting is making something fall yeah a lot of the
fighting ended up being less like like rock and soccer robots like clear punch
clear contact and you know he falls
well okay but then it ended up being a lot of like punching kind of getting
hooked on the other robot on the withdrawal and then pulling him over and
then ripping him and then and then like rolling on the floor like ground
fighting lots of fighting is rolling on the floor maybe they're trying to make
it more realistic yeah sure let's go let's go and you know okay i am the
benefit of the doubt you know how someone in twitch chat uh tried to say
cornflakes or whatever uh yes i thought he might have been legitimately trying
to do a play on words with conflicts like conflict so we asked him that today
and then no he was like yeah sure
like it had never occurred to him before i don't think when i first heard the
channel name i thought it was conflicts because it was robot fighting it was
from one i didn't okay he actually started out with um
with these like uh effects videos where he was he did like minions in real life
it got like 20 million views or something stupid like that and then
dreamworks or whoever owns the minions copyright struck him
yeah took it down um
and so now he's doing mostly like robots and
stem stuff and tech stuff yeah cool
all right should we should we do a tech news topic no i guess
should we respond to thunder foot sure
okay or we can do a tech news should we do the NVIDIA thing give people what
they want real quick sure and then and then jump over to this thing i'll get
i'll get this ready in the meantime sure uh so the NVIDIA leaks
wow so surprised um after siggraph we all kind of knew this was coming uh
we not have leaked specs about what this
is a ridiculous sentence uh but rtx 280
is more or less confirmed i don't know if it's actually been confirmed but
there was like very very obvious hints in the NVIDIA
video if you kind of picked through the chat conversations that were happening
on screen it was super obvious they're calling it rtx and it's 20 series not 11
series um so because sure there we go
why not i guess um the GeForce rtx
2080 ti that's going to take a little
bit to get used to going to mess with me yeah for a very long time rtx why would
they why would they have letters that
could abbreviate from Radeon technologies oh geez
i didn't think about that but i'm astonished that they didn't if you're sitting around thinking of a name like
you'd have to break it down what is it supposed to bring ray tracing oh come on
okay sorry we should do a tech cookie on that by the way yeah probably yeah um
yeah i'll let john know but like
g has been NVIDIA's thing for a very long
time r has been ati AMD's thing
for a very long time um so
what's happening to g-force then
i don't know so the rumors rivers
so that so the rumors like yes
is that there will be rtx and gtx cards
but i don't know that that has been confirmed at all and with NVIDIA's big
push towards ray tracing i don't really foresee that being a
thing yeah so it'll have 11 gigs of RAM gddr6
memory that is and a 352 bus that
doesn't sound right i would have thought it would be 348. uh okay i mean i'm yeah
don't quote me the gddr6 memory is apparently going to be clocked at 14
gigabit per second okay and um
also there will be an rtx uh let me have
a look uh 2080 and that'll have 2944 cuda cores
not 3072 as previously speculated and it'll have eight gigs on a 256-bit bus
now what would you say really interesting about this would be
that um if NVIDIA launches their ti card with
the um 50 wider memory bus
and their non-ti card at the same time this will be the first time in a while
that we've seen them actually launch a big core do you think it's gonna
happen right when they bring out a new architecture i mean if there are rumors
circulating at this point when we are a week from when they are
less than a week from when they're rumored to be launching it yeah if there
are rumors circulating where there's smoke there's fire at this
point i've i've yet to see um a video card that's rumored to be
launching next week with names and specs
and many different sources being reported by many different news
organizations um and everyone pretty much being on the
same page about it i've yet to see that not turn into a real product launch so
there you go if you're waiting for a graphics card then uh
quick go sell yours now so the people who aren't paying
attention to the tech news will see it and buy it yeah and then and
then you can get your new graphics card that presumably will be faster but then
maybe only in ray tracing applications wouldn't that be horrible well they're
probably going to do the same kind of thing in terms of
honestly i didn't watch the siggraph stuff whoops but they might have already
but they are probably going to do the same kind of thing they did with the last launch with pascal where they're
like it's three times faster in this specific application in vr
related applications yeah so what i
what i kind of am picking up here is if
you look at the 1080 ti and you look at the 1080 i think there's what about a 30
performance delta give or take 20 to 40
somewhere in that range and what they had done the last couple
generations was they had launched the step down GPU
at a performance level that was competitive or a little bit better than
last gen so 980 for example was a little bit faster than
780 ti 1080 was a little bit faster than 980 ti
even though this was the step down chip competing with the big chip from the
last gen yeah if they're launching both 2080 and 2080 ti
does that tell us that 2080 wasn't fast
enough to be an upgrade for 1080 ti owners and they couldn't wait another
six to eight months which has been the typical gap
dun dun
that would honestly line up a little bit more with like i know they do marketing stuff all the time and people want to
sell cards so they never really want you to think something's coming until like
super close to before it's coming yeah i mean like two months ago didn't you just
say there's no new cards oh you think that no
no there's no way they're just pascal with ray tracing to them
why not it would not be the first time
yeah it would be the first time for that well it would not be the first time that
they essentially rebadged this would be like a rebadge with an upgrade that's
even better there's no way that's all they've been working on for the last two years no but it might need it might be
all they need to release
the problem NVIDIA okay the problem here is that
i i haven't seen any benchmarks for the
touring based um
the touring based are they are they quadros or teslas they're quadros so i
haven't seen anything for the new cards they just launched at siggraph so i have
no way of knowing how similar how similar those are to the pascal ones
there's no way that's right it's probably not maybe someone in twitch chat is uh it's fun to think about
something helpful here
there's a bunch of people in a second they said touring is volta iterated
and ray tracing is enabled by tensor cores
so volta versus pascal i actually don't
know clock for clock cuda for cuda core for
cuda core how much that improved
holy crap you don't think the new ones are just
basically the old ones
it's been a while since we've had that you know it's maybe with ray tracing
bolted to them it might it might be time
oh boy that would actually be very disappointing
um okay well on that they do have much faster
memory the memory is real fast
yeah okay so good job miners
right isn't mining like kind of dead right now
uh i mean it's it's lower than it has been in the past but i
know people that are still profitable really it's just you have to be in the
right location because of right okay
right and you're only profitable if you catch out or if you cash out that's the
right time yeah and that's okay that's one of the ways that people have made a lot of money is they're actually my and
who knows do not do this because i'm saying this
yeah we're not recommending it to be very clear
very clear about that yeah there have been people not you unless it is you i
don't know there has been people that have mind
when it's very not profitable right and gathered a bunch of coins and
not sold and then it's gone up and then they've sold
so because like mining while it's profitable
is only actually better if you're selling like every day
right right because it only actually matters
when you sell sure except it's been down for like a while now except it often
goes down at the beginning of the year and then doesn't do very well in the middle of the year and then comes up
near the rest of the like the latter half of the year so who the heck knows
man all right then i kind of hate mining but
whatever um speaking of things that uh that we
hate um i don't hate motorola but this
was posted by roar and z roars nz on the
forum and this is pretty brutal
so hit me with your best shot luke mining
tips no which one of these is an iphone 10 and
which one of them is motorola's new phone no no you don't get to look anymore nope what what which one was
which what which one was which
i have no idea okay hold on hold on hold on get ready
get ready i didn't see it that much okay you can see it again go ahead
and it's gone which one's an iphone 10 i i can't i
can't say with like an educated guess i don't know they're so similar i'm gonna
randomly okay which one which one well okay the right one
is the iphone 10 yeah yeah yeah okay because you can cheat now i was trying
to ignore this yeah because that's pretty clear so i was just being like
okay well they could have swapped that onto the thing but outside of this which
is like hello i'm Android yeah um and especially the icons below it outside of
that i can't tell at all isn't that brutal did they ch is it
literally the same frame oh look at the
back wow
yeah i know right like
what are you doing there bud like is this the same panel from samsung
that's what i want to know because the curvature
looks identical i haven't seen the did they advertise it with that color splash
on it right did they because this is where at the top one of my biggest
points of confusion was like did they just swap over the clock just to trick
people that's why i was like what i don't know no no no this is a different phone
so they even put the flash between the two rear cameras here and
like so on the one hand i am far from the
world's biggest apple apologist
um but that's it's neither am i you're currently making a
video about freaking trying to fix their
stupid imac but like that's brutal
that's design your own phone guys and i'm i'm not necessarily on apple's side
with the whole lawsuit going on between them and samsung that's been going for
about what seven years now or whatever over the original galaxy s and all the
similarities that board of the iphone or whatever samsung has for the most part
tried to do their own thang separate from apple the colors for a
very long time the colors recently too they've really departed there this
is brutal this is very brutal this is a brazen and blatant rip-off
yeah brazen indeed i like that um thank you thank you i i worked hard on that
forty dollar word
um
so i don't know imac again the argument that's raging right now is
are these are these unique design elements the
notch the camera placement um the wallpaper or is this just now standard
building blocks of a phone and we shouldn't care about this kind of thing
who are you with on this one i'm with apple in this one
to be completely honest that's brutal there's like there's there's even little
things that they could have done to make it a you know just marginally different
yep um the notch both sides having the notch i don't
necessarily see that being a huge deal personally
um way to go you copied apple doing
something literally no one asked for yeah
um um hooray
but like everything it's the it's the fact that
everything is the same like if they had the notch but the back was different
yeah if they didn't have the notch and the back was the same like at least like
a little even then i'd be like oh they're trying to make it so that everyone else thinks that you haven't
you could make it you could make the it's still not great
but the fact that it's all that way is just at least you could make an argument
that way and like at least put a notably different wallpaper
what well you can i mean
when they do something like that something completely blatant like the
wallpaper you can tell that they're not they're clearly not
targeting us they're not targeting the tech
i think it's intentional confusion to a certain degree yeah yeah yeah i think
they're i think they're targeting i saw ads for this one that looks like that
one let me i think so i think it's i think it's i
think it's going that way that's not cool i don't know if uh lenovo which is
motorola's parent company now uh they own the brand i don't know if they have
responded to this but uh i i would be interested to hear what
they have to say for themselves if they're smart they'll probably just say
nothing and hope the whole thing blows over but uh
someone in the sorry it's not helpful
because apple makes a lot of noise about getting copied or people ripping off
their design or you know it being frustrating to be you know the
one who's pushing design forward and
what's frustrating for me is when things like this happen
it adds a lot of weight to apple's whining yeah whereas if apple was just
constantly whining which they probably would anyway if apple was just
constantly whining about this stuff but they could never back it up
then it would actually be damaging to themselves
but as it is if companies like motorola
are running out and actually copying the iphone
it means that every time apple gets to cry about this we have to take it more
seriously do you get what i mean yo i absolutely do um but but
maybe it was intentional maybe motorola knew this was going to happen they
wanted it to happen uh people want us to show the p20 pro that's another now
we're actually talking about a motorola phone
on the lan show that's true we normally would not have done that
so here's the p20 pro it's not the same it's not quite the
same i actually would say it's a notable depart the notch is way smaller the
camera setup on the back is different i know it's similar but there's another camera the logo logo's not in the same
spot not in the center there's branding here there's only so much you can do
with a phone these days this is clearly a different phone
whereas that motorola phone was not
clearly a different phone and that's like if i was if i was super
ignorant to phones i wouldn't necessarily know which one of those was the iphone which one wasn't but i would
know that they were different phones like when you originally showed me that
thing if the time wasn't there if the like Android clock thing wasn't there i
would have legitimately thought that they were actually identical phones
and even then i thought they might have been and someone just photoshopped it over
um someone in the chat was like your guys'll stream is dead because we don't
have as many viewers as we normally do do you want to there's like reasons why
oh we can't promote the stream on youtube yeah we can't uh we can't like
normally we would do a video we would upload it to youtube saying hey we're
live over on twitch click the link in the video description but youtube gave
us a community guideline strike for doing that before so this is more like
our organic live streaming viewership through twitch honestly if we wanted
more views on lan show we would just stream it to youtube
our typical youtube stream viewership is over 10 000 concurrents we've had as
high as i think 20 30 like big big numbers compared to what
we do over here but honestly WAN Show at this point
is not really about lots of viewers no
it's actually probably even better having a slightly slower chat
yep it's not about lots of viewers it's not about lots of money we could get a
lot more sponsorship dollars for wancho if we managed it differently yeah like
if we published it properly as a podcast if we know about the issues with
that right no oh yeah apparently we've been doing
double uploads one of which is usually corrupted for like some period of time
oh i know yeah anyway yeah Colton's upload is corrupted well why does he
upload i've told him this i don't know okay yeah i thought he stopped
okay anyway there are definitely things we could do
to make WAN Show better but for us WAN Show is just about sort
of tradition at this point more than anything else
like luke has better things to do now that he's ceo of Floatplane media quite
frankly um well this is my like i work more
hours than normal anyways so my weekend essentially starts like right before
when show starts in like in how i calculate everything
this is like this is i'm time off essentially right now
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tape came off i need more just your hands are small
i'm sorry you're not sorry you aren't sorry i can't get it out of
this thing oh i think i kind of did you break it yeah okay so you
managed to break it yeah can you do it again
oh wow it cuts into you before it breaks
i'll tell you that much
ah i need more okay okay all right not
bad in terms of other features they've got a sunglass holder in the top that's
been really handy on mine i have that same thing as well this one doesn't have quite as many
pockets as mine um frankly i don't end up using them a lot
of the time anyway oh and this one has their built-in um power strip thing
so you cable manage that through there's a hole somewhere around here
uh i can't remember exactly where it is but there's a cable management hole and
then it's got a regular outlet and it's got a couple of usb ports so the idea is
you can actually have all your devices and stuff like cable managed into your
bag so you can charge the whole thing by just oh am i holding it out of frame
sorry uh by just plugging in this one plug and then it just sits there and
all your junk inside charges including your laptop because it does have a full ac power i'm sorry for doing that to you
uh it's got a tablet holder as well as a laptop pouch and uh
it's got a five year warranty it's got a removable chest strap and uh
yeah that's pretty much it basically good stuff
really comfortable um i was using another bag for a little bit before this
one and i don't remember what this one's called and i don't think there's a label
anywhere that says what it's called but i'm sure you know
i'm sure you'll find it on their website if it comes to that but see it's got a
few more little like management things and especially this pocket the second
pocket i think this one's bigger it's got a few more little things that i
can put stuff in but i end up just kind of tucking everything into the bottom i
believe that's just called the moss pack okay so the pack i guess
so i did i did i busted it twice okay but it worked
the amount of effort that went into busting one thread was
was quite high i want to try again it kind of hurts i
know but i want to do it now
now that you did it i wouldn't have felt that if you couldn't do it
yeah like it doesn't feel like it's not comfortable yeah i think i almost cut
myself out like a few times
okay got it there you go okay okay so there you go moss challenge but it's a
single thread wow so like yeah no it doesn't feel like i've got yeah
yeah i've got those that's not a hand wrinkle that really hurts yeah
why do we do these things
all right so let's talk about uh thunderfoot's thing so um thunderfoot
back at it again with another myth busted
the three million dollar food scanner busted
so uh basically overall i watched part of the video and a lot of good points in
here about um these guys
look how credible she looks that's awesome um just feels like an infomercial
showing off their molecular scanner that they claim will allow you to uh see the
um the chemical breakdown of the food
that you pointed at or point their scanner at and
use something something infrared something something something something
something anyway uh the reason we're bringing this up is because
footage from Techquickie was taken out of context in such a way
that it appeared as though we had been sponsored by one of these molecular
scanner companies and hadn't disclosed it
and now
we are not entirely not at fault here what we didn't do
was validate that these particular molecular scanners because we did bring
up at least one of them in the video we hadn't validated that they actually
worked because the video was about the technology in general which does work
and we mentioned in the video at the end of the video we mentioned that these
handheld ones were okay so actually midway through the video we mentioned
these handheld ones are not going to replace the
much more expensive versions of this technology that are for lab use we do
mention that and we also say at the end of the video that
we can't speak to the efficacy of these particular devices at this time
but we say you know we're excited to see where this technology heads unfortunately the way that it was
presented in this video um it made it look as though we were
endorsing the technology and the product in particular and that we hadn't
disclosed some kind of sponsorship another note that we have here i haven't
seen our version of this video to be completely clear but i know how we make things we could have done a better job
of saying that we hadn't validated it fair uh but apparently we do say the
company's claims we don't say that it absolutely works
this way we say that they claim that they work this way
so basically i just wanted to pull
i just wanted to talk to you guys and say hey
no we were not sponsored yes we could have done a better job of
making sure that a product that we're using as an example of a technology that
we're talking about actually works and does not come across
as endorsed and and we could do a better job of making sure it doesn't come across as endorsed
but the fact of the matter is we were not
sponsored we have nothing to do with that company we've never talked to them
we've made no effort to get our hands on their molecular scanner and yeah it's
probably bs based on what i've seen so far
the other thing that i also don't know i actually i have not looked into this the
other thing that i don't know is how the timing lines up so i don't know if these
were actually available to try yet
oh um okay at the time that we made the video so
when did we make this yeah we're just going to be a lot more cautious about any pieces we do on emerging technology
but the thing that frustrated me was just that the way it was presented made
us look like complete idiots um
well i think that's kind of his goal right yeah i guess so pretty much ever
that's his shtick yeah that's that's cool i guess
all right so next up that's a bit of digging yeah that video
is kind of old now yeah it's a couple of years old nearing
a year and a half yep
always actually we've got other news so this was posted on the forum by
numlock21 and the original article is from video videocards.com so take that
for what it is uh let's just be let's just be very clear oh actually hold on
before we move on uh ran machan 97 asks are you going to
copyright strike them for using your content improperly no they haven't
actually okay well we could make the argument that taking it out of context um
could be improperly but that's something that we would have to
fight in court that's not something that is as simple as
because you used our footage it has therefore been used improperly there
could be a fair use defense there if the argument is made that
one entity is reporting on something another one has done
that's how you can get around having a whole lot of footage from a movie with
just voiceover if you are using it
in order to critique the movie um so no honestly
normally we wouldn't even bring up something like this it was just that
some members of our community that i actually recognized were in the comment
section on that video saying that they thought we were honest and they thought
we disclosed our sponsors and i wanted to make sure that you guys know we do
and never even had contact with them and we have nothing to do with those guys
aside from picking a topic that maybe was a little
premature someone brought up tarnishes your brand image perhaps i i don't think
we're gonna we're gonna do it we're not really in the in the market of signing
people yeah we're we're not really uh we're not really a drama channel like we
don't we don't really do that you know there's been there has been
far worse things that people have said about us but given that they didn't
raise the attention grabbed the attention of our community we have just completely ignored them because what's
the point of drawing attention to it yeah i mean all we've really done at
this point is give thunderfoot some more adsense revenue and that's really the
only thing that you accomplish typically through drama so
um i guess i'm gonna oh yeah okay i guess i'm gonna go off on a tangent here
i guess i'm gonna kind of um ruin youtube for a lot of the people that
haven't like clued into this but the vast majority of the drama you see
is manufactured not all of it but the vast majority not
all of it but more than you would probably think it is mutually beneficial
for two entities of some sort or another to
be feuding you know i wonder if that's the game
samsung and apple are playing like hold on a second
hold on a second think about this on a much don't much
hold on think about this on a much much larger scale fighting and nothing else
matters yes if apple wants their message to be that
their brand identity is unique and being copied
even i bet it costs less to sue samsung
than it does to market that on tv
and if samsung wants their message to be
that we we forged our own path
are they not better off fighting apple in court where it will be
reported on by the same news outlets they would have to buy banner space and
ad space on maybe do they even care who wins maybe
whoa now now look normally i don't go all conspiracy
theory tinfoil hat but
i do not yes we do we both do that's like part of this show
well okay not not not okay not implausibly okay i think this is very
plausible though so then you're not doing it implausibly
right okay
okay okay well entire twitch chat mind blown collusion
all the illuminati eyes bam Linus jones oh no that's not that's
not what i need oh boy uh don't say the full name apparently that can get you
like
the vast majority of the drama that you see
you know whether it's between actors or singers or i mean a great example of
this would be like wwe wrestlers
right that is just so that both people's
names wwe wrestlers don't even remotely try to
hide that though not fair that's kind of its own thing well no but the crazy
thing is some people can do don't see it okay
that's fair but like it is it is very directly communicated as i know
yeah i know but what i'm saying is other people aren't
doing that communication wwe is being fairly transparent it's a show fine
whatever i i'm just saying i'm busting some bubbles out there it's not my fault
that that bubble is entirely self-inflicted or that's like yeah okay
but i'm still busting bubbles and i'm still sorry yeah
twitch chat twitch chat's going nuts wrestling is real
yes olympic wrestling is real raslyn ksi versus logan paul
i don't even know who ksi is logan paul versus Jake paul
yeah that definitely logan paul versus x
like a variable yeah one of them is like really sharply on the decline now i
can't remember which one of the paul's yeah one of them is kind of leveled off
and the other one is like in a nosedive right now
oh yeah that's i was talking to um i was talking to conflicts about this earlier
so he was saying that it was an advantage for me starting up on youtube
when i did like 11 years ago because the
playing field was far smaller oh that bit but hold on so the playing field was
far smaller and i said yes that is an advantage no explosive growth
but it's also a double-edged sword yes because the audience was much smaller at
that time so if you can make yourself heard above the
noise above the vast number of creators
that there are on youtube you have the potential for far more growth than i did
back then and far faster but if you can't make yourself hurt
above the noise then you're basically
hooped which one is it they're both getting
like lots of subscribers every day
this is Jake's his monthly views is going back up and his monthly subs is on
like the tiniest incline ever but technically an incline um
logan's views is on a decline and his
subs is more or less flat they're they're both not doing nearly as
well as they were in july in july they were both freaking kings of the world
and to put this in perspective this monthly sub count is only marginally
higher than ours on Linus tech tips so
like yeah they're big or whatever but they're not like i i would consider us mid mid
tier yeah um we're not top tier youtubers in the in the sense that like
because everyone in the world that's like connected to the internet probably
knows has heard these guys name at some point yeah i don't even they're on tv they're
in the news yeah casey talked about them okay i
guess almost every news thing on youtube talked about him at one point for me
when i divide into tears it's less how much of a household name you are because
you know you could find you know ex hollywood actors who have like
semi-retired but still make youtube videos or whatever that's not their feel
like so okay when i divide it into two disney my point is that i don't take
like the entire uh yeah yeah
you got to see it as a pyramid not as like some kind of a linear scale
because if we were to take all the youtubers in existence yeah we're
probably in the top fraction of a percent yeah that doesn't matter in
every category but that's not we're still mid-tier because there's only so
much room at the top and the guys that are at the top are on a very very
different level in terms of the momentum that their channels have the number of
views each of their videos get um so definitely a step down how is a
five million plus subs channel mid tier uh because there's like a few reasons
yeah there's far more to life than subscribers yes so here going back to
these numbers social blade's a great site i actually spend a fair bit of time
creeping other creators on there it is a great site so Linus tech tips good job
boys has never done 400
million views in a month Linus tech tips has still done a mere
one point i think it's about 1.5 billion views ever so to put that in perspective
in a single month uh logan paul
did a quarter as many views
as Linus tech tips has ever done in its
10 year history
that is a different tier yeah when you're talking an order of
magnitude difference in viewership and
or like like what do what do we do in a month they also what didn't they only
join youtube well okay i think they had channels before them but did they
effectively join youtube like two years ago or something so Linus tech tips is
top month ever here let's have a look uh mind you our trajectory is looking a
little bit nicer but its top month ever was 68 million views
which is pretty good it is but
that is an order of magnitude difference and whenever someone is 10x
well they get to sit in a higher level of the pyramid
yeah um and to be clear like i'm not like mad about it or anything it's just
that you know if i was if i was even a different content sphere there's like a
lot of things that are different yeah it's not it's not about that it's just
about like when we're when we're comparing something like our our
viewership numbers to theirs and that's stuff that we'll do but not
to you know see who has the biggest dick or whatever it's it's more to do with if
we observe some kind of a change in our viewership yeah when we go okay is
google tweaking the algorithm what are they optimizing for we'll go and we'll
look at other channels known quantities and we'll go okay so the the big
channels the tier one channels we all see a little different they're going
this way or they're going this way yep yeah or we'll find some small channels
that we like to use as a yardstick oh these guys are getting boosted okay so
maybe youtube is favoring or we'll look at people who upload very prolifically
or we'll look at people who upload only once a week and we'll go oh interesting
so they're favoring very frequent uploaders or we'll look at people who
upload typically longer videos or shorter ones so we can use these metrics
to have a look at how youtube is tuning the algorithm that's one of the things
that we spend a fair bit of time on because for better or for worse our job is only
partially to make videos our job is also
to make people watch those videos on the youtube platform which behaves like a
a bucking bronco on acid yeah in terms of its prediction i like that
descriptive term that yeah to be real though and another thing is um in terms
of sub count a lot of people subscribe to a channel and then just slowly stop
watching it especially when the content type changes and like the the content type from back
when we were at ncx with the like zero editing unboxings yes that are five
minutes long to what we have now is a drastic change
and there's people that might prefer the old unboxing style and there's people
that might prefer now and there's probably a lot of people that don't
necessarily watch anymore because all they wanted was unboxings but they're
still subscribed because youtube will just slowly hide our channel
if you look at a channel like pewdiepie he has changed
drastically and like a few times yeah so he has like huge
buckets of users from different and he's been huge every
time he's changed so he has huge buckets of users from all these different
segments that are all subscribed to him all the same time that doesn't mean they're all watching right now
if you look at the subscriber count versus the views it's it's yeah you know
what this is a great example because it's as close to apples to apples as we
can do both techwiki and techlinked are
tech channels so they exist within the tech vertical they are both being
uploaded from the same ip there's some speculation that your geographical
location does affect the way that your content gets propagated um they are both
hosted at least sometimes by the same
people they are similar lengths they
both have one baked in sponsor spot so there's a lot of analogs that we can
find between these two channels but what you're going to see is that like what
luke was saying because Techquickie has a much older
audience many of the subscribers from which have sort of died on the vine
techquicky is going to do let's have a look here anywhere from
hundred 275 twenty thousand one hundred and ninety thousand three hundred thousand so why
don't we say anywhere from two hundred thousand to three hundred and fifty
thousand one back over the last couple of weeks there's some spiky ones but on
two hundred to four hundred why don't we say that there we go this one just went up five hours ago so we're not counting
that now let's go have a look that won't even have updated properly TechLinked which
has not 2.2 million but only 488 000
subscribers and let's have a look at our viewership there 335 from a day ago 383
300 238 286 275 244 238 444 000 276
another 400 another 400 000 one
so consider this so back to the whole um
would someone like logan paul be in a different tier than us especially when
he's doing you know 400 million views a month so yeah he might have only had 12
million subscribers at that time but given that they were all fresh and you
look at TechLinked which has one sixth
as many subscribers or so as techquickie but does similar viewership because its
subscribers are fresh and you consider how much bigger than
his engaged audience probably was at that time given that it was a bigger and
b much fresher that means it's probably more than just
like a 10x difference i mean we're probably talking more like a 20 or 30 x
difference in terms of the engaged audience apparently you have you have glitter somewhere on your face and
twitch chat literally will not stop talking about it i don't know
i actually drive that car yeah so yeah
that there's glitter on my face is not surprising my son i'm just i've tried doesn't want to get into it
i don't blame him it looks like it actually is like sick
it looks like a sick car i just found out
that i might be being sent down to san
francisco in the near future i am so surprised why
um i don't know you travel all the time sponsored thing okay but no no the
important thing about san francisco oh boy
is that oh boy that you should do a video on it is the
location of lightning motorcycles you shouldn't
buy one but you should do a video on it you should contact them seriously or is
it lightning bikes no is it lightning motorcycle yeah there we go
so i actually have reached out to them good
since we last talked about it and i have arranged for a test ride nice
yep uh to buy one just like for a video yeah
um i told them i was considering buying one
are you filming it uh you should phone maybe not wow i
don't know a lot it's a really cool bike it's electric and stuff yeah do you
think i should film it i think so i don't know should we straw pull it yeah
yeah they're just going to say yes yeah they're the lan show audience like
if we told them should we make a video of me and luke just eating our boogers
for like six minutes like seeing who can see who can harvest the most booger like
they'd probably be into it not that we're saying you guys don't
have you know great taste
um you know the most discerning viewers
but no oh no no no no don't straw pull
that why not i want to show how to test our theory
oh okay they're obviously going to say yes i'll do the other one okay just just
put it just put it in the twitch chat just put it in the twitch chat here on
screenshot the bike one is my screen's sharing you it's gonna be no no question
go back go back to your results
a whole bunch of people in chat are saying boogers yes
ah oh dude yes is that 80 right now 77 79
80. we're holding on okay so what we're gonna find out here because i'm about to
post my poll it's okay is if people would prefer
boogers or bikes boogers is holding on at 79
right now okay hold on i need i need a minute here oh
that's because you're a bikes voter
there's nothing wrong with being a bikes voter it's a good thing
it's better than being a booger photo you keep telling yourself that's
disgusting we would watch that
i mean like isn't like the popping pimple niche like huge on youtube what
no yeah no like cysts and pimples and stuff is like a
huge millions of views can you post that for me i'm not logged in
you have got to be careful oh did you send it to me
i thought so i tried
yes um oh hold on you know what i think i'm fine i'm logged in
uh hold on no i'm not logged in yet wait
yes i am logged in and you're sharing my screen i'm logged
in yeah i'm showing your screen don't worry about it oh oh right right right right okay well whatever i'm logged in
there we go all right let's see the bike results
boogers held steady at around eighty percent seventy we're zen at 78. you've
got it with a thousand votes we're at about a thousand rounds
all right let's just let me get to the results page here this is ridiculous
okay okay okay so the audience has spoken they prefer bikes to boogers yeah
um by a pretty significant margin i am so surprised pretty significant
yeah 94 versus 78
is i would say a significant margin
it's significant significant the word has a freaking yeah no definition i know
but there's been significant no you're not definition no no
we're doing this we're doing this right now okay uh
uh okay i think it's a letter grade difference probably caused by something
other than mere chance statistically significant okay
so it's significant it is all right yeah and you know what else is significant
the end of the win show
we have to go home can't happen by mere chance
actually it's happened by chance a lot it has so thanks for watching guys we'll
see you again next week same bat time same bat channel bye
cougars are riot
are you guys doing a games bump
i'm i'm not going to gamescom i'm going to packs west i don't think i'm working
there though so meet up um
yeah so i was invited to gamescom by NVIDIA
and uh basically i'm at the point now where
traveling for four days factor in a
uh a ticket like a plane ride there plane ride back so there's a couple days
because it's in germany it's not exactly close
there's no direct flight so it's like a day of travel each way
plus you know actually being there and attending the event
i'm at the point now where i'm just like not gonna do that kind of thing anymore
because um well they they for some insight they they brief you on it
immediately before the stream the like NVIDIA stream yeah and they
don't tell you as much as they're gonna as they
and your embargo is after the stream so there's actually no point in being there
you might as well be back in the studio you should probably just like be here
and ready to go just like be on the Techquickie set
yeah maybe i might just not even or who cares yeah i don't know like
i don't know i'm i'm getting kind of tired of of manufacturing if it's that
but if it's that tweaked and a few things added pascal
i'm getting kind of tired of manufacturers trying to control
the use cycle yeah um like i've talked about this off stream before but like
uh this whole thing where there's an announcement embargo and an unboxing
embargo and a reviews embargo and a freaking
i don't know new color scheme embargo um you know and to me what it's
max of is wanting wanting like because none of it's
they're trying to flex yeah to make you do a whole bunch of pieces of content
yes and that's that's what it is the problem we don't have a problem doing content
we'll do content about all kinds of things we uh we lift our threadripper wx
up to a chiller like there's a commercial chiller you can just buy it's
for an aquarium it goes down to yeah four degrees yeah and it's like nicely
self-contained i should show it to you after it's actually really sick it's not even that expensive when you consider
what a custom water cooling loop can cost um anyway so you know we hooked our
Threadripper wx up to that um you know overclocked it as high as we could like
yeah that that's fine but the difference is that a lot of the kind of coverage
that you are expected to be doing in this announcement on boxing stuff the
only information they give you is basically marketing bullet points so
what they're effectively asking for is free advertising and i'm at the point
now where i don't do advertising for free and you can kind of
you can read into that whatever you want you know maybe it comes across maybe i come
across like a prick i don't know i don't think so but at the end of the day if
you expect me to advertise your product then i expect you to pay me so that i
can pay my bills and pay my staff and disclose it to the audience and disclose
it to the audience that's how advertising works and that's why i think
you don't come across like a prick because that kind of stuff should be disclosed if you want advertising then
fine but you have to pay for it it isn't free and it should be a transaction
objective coverage of the product the way that i want to cover it then just
send the product and we'll do it on our terms yeah so
that's kind of the way i see it now anyway that's it for the stream bye guys goodbye