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youtube gives us a community guideline strike if we make a video saying that

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the WAN Show is live what the heck there we go uh what do you mean i don't know

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what was going on with that i don't know i like it i think it's a good look cool yeah yeah let's leave it

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up i mean it can't be any worse than my hair anyone who skips through the

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timestamps is just gonna be like what is that that was one of the big takeaways

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actually from the um the whole controversy around tampon gate

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you know about tampon gate right yeah with the amazon go store where i was

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was that was so disruptive that on my twitch stream we had to i had to like

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address what was going on and i watched your video but couldn't have the audio

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on because the levels were weird so it was like blowing people's ears out so i was like i'm pretty sure he's just

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saying all this stuff and then i watched it the next day and i was right i was

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like yeah and i had never even seen the video it's just like i'm pretty sure

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this is about what's going on so one of the things that came out of

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that was that i am a tech bro okay which i had never heard before i

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had never heard the term tech i've never heard of that either but yeah kind of tech bros are uh they're they're

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they're like they're bros you know like bro bro yeah bro they're those but

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they're tech uh and they exclude everyone because

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they're like tech bro i don't think we exclude everyone actually it has more to do with us just not really knowing how

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to talk to anyone yes if you want the stereotypical tech

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tech person if social awkwardness is exclusion than like yeah yes

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the most exclusionary group of all time

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um we love each other though so we just don't know how to tell each other i mean

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luke and i know how to tell each other we're special like that special bond um

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but then i i have i have grown to accept that i have bad hair

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okay so i i'm okay with it i'm just gonna you know what there i'm not making

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it worse i'm not making it better it's just bad my thing mostly fell down the

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only i just go like that a whole bunch and then apparently it's fine so okay

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yeah sure yeah whatever get wrecked um why don't you try it got a lot of

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so what do i do just like sweep it to one side like finger rake to one oh it's

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gelled yeah well that's not that's not gonna work just doing it anyways

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we're gonna hope for the best today how's that

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it actually looks all right

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oh seriously there's one little bit up in the back but the rest of it it looks

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less gel then it looks like it's just kind of sweeping over

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okay yeah the back screwed up

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because the gel is holding so i'm using like hand oils yeah

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yeah remember that bit about our exclusionary

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maybe this is why the tech news

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brought to you by people who don't look very credible

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yeah yeah yeah so NVIDIA leaks in pictures motorola under fire for

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coppering copying the iphone 10.

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oh i'm just doing this okay thunderfoot takes issue with Techquickie and the

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core i9 9900k confirmed to be soldered

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rumor i can't get the chat on twitch in trout

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just like not here

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just subscribed with twitch prize linuxfan724

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please be subscribed to the wrong channel i think you were thinking of Linus not Linux

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i'm especially a fan of um all right so we've got a great show

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for you guys today i think we already ran through some of the topics wonderful

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but that's true actually we uh

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first we're gonna go for it or we're gonna talk about other stuff oh i was actually just gonna go

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totally totally off um

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off script and i don't know i don't know how to spell it

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which is really unfortunate

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why can't i find this no that's no definitely not it let me

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help no one has any idea what we're looking for no one has any idea what

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it there we go so guess who we have here

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in the studio today dude i found it first you know what well i

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uh hate you so we have

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conflicts and he doesn't actually know that i was

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planning to have him come say hi on the WAN Show but basically he does like

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robot stuff and like stem stuff and

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this video right here is an unboxing and let's play with the super Anthony

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ultimate battle humanoid robot with 45

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kilograms servo punch and uh come on come on come on come on

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over here let's talk about let's talk about what we shot today

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so this is his video which you're not going to copyright strike me over this

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no no no no no please is this fair use yes it's fair fair use

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no copyright strike no copyright okay no copyrights right good you heard it from

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you heard it from him say say hi everyone hey guys

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i don't know i don't know how many people are like spazzing out right now conflicts

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butt flies says who

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uh what else we got someone uh mandry two says corn flakes corn flakes i think

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they're just messing with you guys because good ol good old twitch chat

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they are all about being well twitch chat yeah um so

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basically what we were doing today here i'm just going to throw your thing up here actually yeah do you want to run

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them through what we did today because it's pretty cool get a little closer to the strike

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so uh we actually chair all right no problem

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that's fine i really hadn't planned to do this

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so uh we went ahead and made a video uh

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showcasing super Anthony now super Anthony's a robot that's actually been

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can actually go ahead and buy it uh it's a fighting robot now uh the unique thing

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about this robot is it's really really strong it's got a 45 kilogram

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punch force and uh both Linus and i actually fought against each other and

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did a few different things so uh definitely uh do stay tuned for that

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video here surprisingly agile oh yeah definitely oh yeah no definitely and

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it's controlled with like a knock-off playstation controller so it's actually

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very intuitive there it is punching uh are you gonna

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show us the uppercut or is that the uppercut uh that's a bunch yeah and

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there's a jab how many servos does this thing have

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it can do some pretty crazy stuff it can pick itself up off the floor uh both

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custom-built battle robot arena

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that ed and james spent the better part of the last two days building yeah so um

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i mean really the reason that this collab came about was that um what are

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they called again limitless limitless iq limitless iq so limitless iq the makers

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of the super Anthony actually sent robots to both conflicts

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and me and then when both of us followed up and

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get a couple of super Anthony's and battle them

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um their response was sorry we only have a limited number of samples you can only

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have one to which i believe we both replied

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look i don't need you to send another one for me to keep or whatever

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we i just really think it would enhance the video a lot if we could fight them

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can can you just lend me one to which they responded

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um no we can't do that we only have a limited number of samples now we went

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one step further actually before we reached out to khan here

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um this is this is great before we reached out to him

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we kind of said well we don't really think there's a video in here if we

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don't have two of them to fight so do you want it back then and they went no

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and we went okay so on the one hand your story is you don't have enough samples

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to send out enough of them but the flip side of it is you don't want it back

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so we were like okay well we want to make a video about this because this is

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cool so we're just going to find someone else

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who has it fly them out with the robot which was a

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breeze to get through tsa right uh no it was not i had three tsa agents literally

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investigate me and to the full extent like they almost like thought i was

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gonna like even like hijack the plane or something with the robot robot

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with your 18-inch robot

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in the future i mean if it was six foot that's a different situation

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but you know yeah that's crazy yeah so uh so yeah we had a

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lot of we had a lot of fun today though i think the final video is not going to

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be particularly informative but it'll definitely be fun if you want

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the informative spin on super Anthony go check out complex's channel all right

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thanks man

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yeah we had we had a lot of fun today yeah sorry we have no other way to get

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past that um i saw the arena um and i saw and i

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saw james messing around with the robot but just by itself yet he had it like roll

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over which was insane yeah yeah and he showed it like crouching and jumping and

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punching it actually has a special move where it can do like a head level side

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kick geez yeah but you have to have it's really nimble you have to have the

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friction on the floor just right when you think back to like you know some of

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the viral robot videos out there when there's that like soccer game and they

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just keep falling over no i don't i haven't seen it with that

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video robot soccer is probably all you need to actually look at

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familiar at all that does so does the one below that one on the on the search

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be human versus htw just like jump into it yeah german over here hold on a

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second guys i'm gonna just screen share here real quick you haven't seen this i have not seen

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this there's a few of these okay um but

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like just you can just jump into it and they like they like try to dive to stop

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the ball but it's like okay

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like you see what i mean like when when this is what most people have seen being

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able to see the super Anthony like jump around and kick and punch and dodge and

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roll and all this kind of stuff was like pretty impressive one thing i think

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about this is i'm not sure that they're actually controlled

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no is he going to get it

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come on kick it in

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the goalie's just like completely checked out

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but yeah when like some replay

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when like i think most of what people have seen in terms of robots it's like

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this the uh the robot falling off the stage in japan and like all this other

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kind of stuff yeah yeah robot dies of

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robocup 2016. it's like it's fall over all the time

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uh well you know at least not that i saw uh yeah

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no he fall he falls over a fair bit um especially because his traction on

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metal paddles and remember too we're fighting

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so part of the goal of fighting is making something fall yeah a lot of the

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clear contact and you know he falls

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well okay but then it ended up being a lot of like punching kind of getting

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fighting lots of fighting is rolling on the floor maybe they're trying to make

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it more realistic yeah sure let's go let's go and you know okay i am the

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benefit of the doubt you know how someone in twitch chat uh tried to say

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cornflakes or whatever uh yes i thought he might have been legitimately trying

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like it had never occurred to him before i don't think when i first heard the

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dreamworks or whoever owns the minions copyright struck him

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yeah took it down um

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and so now he's doing mostly like robots and

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stem stuff and tech stuff yeah cool

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all right should we should we do a tech news topic no i guess

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should we respond to thunder foot sure

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okay or we can do a tech news should we do the NVIDIA thing give people what

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they want real quick sure and then and then jump over to this thing i'll get

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i'll get this ready in the meantime sure uh so the NVIDIA leaks

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wow so surprised um after siggraph we all kind of knew this was coming uh

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we not have leaked specs about what this

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there was like very very obvious hints in the NVIDIA

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on screen it was super obvious they're calling it rtx and it's 20 series not 11

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series um so because sure there we go

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why not i guess um the GeForce rtx

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they why would they have letters that

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you'd have to break it down what is it supposed to bring ray tracing oh come on

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what's happening to g-force then

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memory that is and a 352 bus that

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don't quote me the gddr6 memory is apparently going to be clocked at 14

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gigabit per second okay and um

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also there will be an rtx uh let me have

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a look uh 2080 and that'll have 2944 cuda cores

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not 3072 as previously speculated and it'll have eight gigs on a 256-bit bus

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now what would you say really interesting about this would be

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that um if NVIDIA launches their ti card with

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the um 50 wider memory bus

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and their non-ti card at the same time this will be the first time in a while

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that we've seen them actually launch a big core do you think it's gonna

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happen right when they bring out a new architecture i mean if there are rumors

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circulating at this point when we are a week from when they are

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less than a week from when they're rumored to be launching it yeah if there

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are rumors circulating where there's smoke there's fire at this

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point i've i've yet to see um a video card that's rumored to be

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launching next week with names and specs

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and many different sources being reported by many different news

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organizations um and everyone pretty much being on the

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same page about it i've yet to see that not turn into a real product launch so

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there you go if you're waiting for a graphics card then uh

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quick go sell yours now so the people who aren't paying

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attention to the tech news will see it and buy it yeah and then and

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then you can get your new graphics card that presumably will be faster but then

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maybe only in ray tracing applications wouldn't that be horrible well they're

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probably going to do the same kind of thing in terms of

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honestly i didn't watch the siggraph stuff whoops but they might have already

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but they are probably going to do the same kind of thing they did with the last launch with pascal where they're

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like it's three times faster in this specific application in vr

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related applications yeah so what i

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what i kind of am picking up here is if

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you look at the 1080 ti and you look at the 1080 i think there's what about a 30

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performance delta give or take 20 to 40

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somewhere in that range and what they had done the last couple

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generations was they had launched the step down GPU

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at a performance level that was competitive or a little bit better than

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last gen so 980 for example was a little bit faster than

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780 ti 1080 was a little bit faster than 980 ti

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even though this was the step down chip competing with the big chip from the

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last gen yeah if they're launching both 2080 and 2080 ti

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does that tell us that 2080 wasn't fast

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enough to be an upgrade for 1080 ti owners and they couldn't wait another

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six to eight months which has been the typical gap

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dun dun

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that would honestly line up a little bit more with like i know they do marketing stuff all the time and people want to

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sell cards so they never really want you to think something's coming until like

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super close to before it's coming yeah i mean like two months ago didn't you just

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say there's no new cards oh you think that no

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no there's no way they're just pascal with ray tracing to them

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why not it would not be the first time

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yeah it would be the first time for that well it would not be the first time that

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they essentially rebadged this would be like a rebadge with an upgrade that's

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even better there's no way that's all they've been working on for the last two years no but it might need it might be

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all they need to release

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the problem NVIDIA okay the problem here is that

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i i haven't seen any benchmarks for the

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touring based um

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the touring based are they are they quadros or teslas they're quadros so i

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haven't seen anything for the new cards they just launched at siggraph so i have

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no way of knowing how similar how similar those are to the pascal ones

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there's no way that's right it's probably not maybe someone in twitch chat is uh it's fun to think about

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something helpful here

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there's a bunch of people in a second they said touring is volta iterated

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and ray tracing is enabled by tensor cores

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so volta versus pascal i actually don't

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know clock for clock cuda for cuda core for

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cuda core how much that improved

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holy crap you don't think the new ones are just

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basically the old ones

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it's been a while since we've had that you know it's maybe with ray tracing

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bolted to them it might it might be time

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oh boy that would actually be very disappointing

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um okay well on that they do have much faster

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memory the memory is real fast

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yeah okay so good job miners

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right isn't mining like kind of dead right now

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uh i mean it's it's lower than it has been in the past but i

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know people that are still profitable really it's just you have to be in the

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right location because of right okay

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right and you're only profitable if you catch out or if you cash out that's the

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right time yeah and that's okay that's one of the ways that people have made a lot of money is they're actually my and

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who knows do not do this because i'm saying this

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yeah we're not recommending it to be very clear

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very clear about that yeah there have been people not you unless it is you i

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don't know there has been people that have mind

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when it's very not profitable right and gathered a bunch of coins and

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not sold and then it's gone up and then they've sold

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so because like mining while it's profitable

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is only actually better if you're selling like every day

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right right because it only actually matters

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when you sell sure except it's been down for like a while now except it often

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goes down at the beginning of the year and then doesn't do very well in the middle of the year and then comes up

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near the rest of the like the latter half of the year so who the heck knows

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man all right then i kind of hate mining but

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whatever um speaking of things that uh that we

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hate um i don't hate motorola but this

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was posted by roar and z roars nz on the

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forum and this is pretty brutal

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so hit me with your best shot luke mining

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tips no which one of these is an iphone 10 and

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which one of them is motorola's new phone no no you don't get to look anymore nope what what which one was

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which what which one was which

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i have no idea okay hold on hold on hold on get ready

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get ready i didn't see it that much okay you can see it again go ahead

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and it's gone which one's an iphone 10 i i can't i

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can't say with like an educated guess i don't know they're so similar i'm gonna

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randomly okay which one which one well okay the right one

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is the iphone 10 yeah yeah yeah okay because you can cheat now i was trying

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to ignore this yeah because that's pretty clear so i was just being like

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okay well they could have swapped that onto the thing but outside of this which

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is like hello i'm Android yeah um and especially the icons below it outside of

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that i can't tell at all isn't that brutal did they ch is it

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literally the same frame oh look at the

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back wow

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yeah i know right like

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what are you doing there bud like is this the same panel from samsung

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that's what i want to know because the curvature

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looks identical i haven't seen the did they advertise it with that color splash

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on it right did they because this is where at the top one of my biggest

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points of confusion was like did they just swap over the clock just to trick

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people that's why i was like what i don't know no no no this is a different phone

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so they even put the flash between the two rear cameras here and

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like so on the one hand i am far from the

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world's biggest apple apologist

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um but that's it's neither am i you're currently making a

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video about freaking trying to fix their

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stupid imac but like that's brutal

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that's design your own phone guys and i'm i'm not necessarily on apple's side

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with the whole lawsuit going on between them and samsung that's been going for

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about what seven years now or whatever over the original galaxy s and all the

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similarities that board of the iphone or whatever samsung has for the most part

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tried to do their own thang separate from apple the colors for a

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very long time the colors recently too they've really departed there this

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is brutal this is very brutal this is a brazen and blatant rip-off

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yeah brazen indeed i like that um thank you thank you i i worked hard on that

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forty dollar word

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um

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so i don't know imac again the argument that's raging right now is

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are these are these unique design elements the

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notch the camera placement um the wallpaper or is this just now standard

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building blocks of a phone and we shouldn't care about this kind of thing

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who are you with on this one i'm with apple in this one

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to be completely honest that's brutal there's like there's there's even little

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things that they could have done to make it a you know just marginally different

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yep um the notch both sides having the notch i don't

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necessarily see that being a huge deal personally

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um way to go you copied apple doing

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something literally no one asked for yeah

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um um hooray

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but like everything it's the it's the fact that

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everything is the same like if they had the notch but the back was different

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yeah if they didn't have the notch and the back was the same like at least like

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a little even then i'd be like oh they're trying to make it so that everyone else thinks that you haven't

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you could make it you could make the it's still not great

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but the fact that it's all that way is just at least you could make an argument

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that way and like at least put a notably different wallpaper

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what well you can i mean

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when they do something like that something completely blatant like the

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wallpaper you can tell that they're not they're clearly not

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targeting us they're not targeting the tech

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i think it's intentional confusion to a certain degree yeah yeah yeah i think

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they're i think they're targeting i saw ads for this one that looks like that

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one let me i think so i think it's i think it's i

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think it's going that way that's not cool i don't know if uh lenovo which is

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motorola's parent company now uh they own the brand i don't know if they have

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responded to this but uh i i would be interested to hear what

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they have to say for themselves if they're smart they'll probably just say

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nothing and hope the whole thing blows over but uh

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someone in the sorry it's not helpful

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because apple makes a lot of noise about getting copied or people ripping off

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their design or you know it being frustrating to be you know the

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one who's pushing design forward and

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what's frustrating for me is when things like this happen

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it adds a lot of weight to apple's whining yeah whereas if apple was just

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constantly whining which they probably would anyway if apple was just

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constantly whining about this stuff but they could never back it up

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then it would actually be damaging to themselves

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but as it is if companies like motorola

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are running out and actually copying the iphone

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it means that every time apple gets to cry about this we have to take it more

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seriously do you get what i mean yo i absolutely do um but but

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maybe it was intentional maybe motorola knew this was going to happen they

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wanted it to happen uh people want us to show the p20 pro that's another now

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we're actually talking about a motorola phone

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on the lan show that's true we normally would not have done that

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so here's the p20 pro it's not the same it's not quite the

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same i actually would say it's a notable depart the notch is way smaller the

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camera setup on the back is different i know it's similar but there's another camera the logo logo's not in the same

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spot not in the center there's branding here there's only so much you can do

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with a phone these days this is clearly a different phone

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whereas that motorola phone was not

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clearly a different phone and that's like if i was if i was super

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ignorant to phones i wouldn't necessarily know which one of those was the iphone which one wasn't but i would

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know that they were different phones like when you originally showed me that

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thing if the time wasn't there if the like Android clock thing wasn't there i

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would have legitimately thought that they were actually identical phones

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and even then i thought they might have been and someone just photoshopped it over

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um someone in the chat was like your guys'll stream is dead because we don't

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have as many viewers as we normally do do you want to there's like reasons why

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oh we can't promote the stream on youtube yeah we can't uh we can't like

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normally we would do a video we would upload it to youtube saying hey we're

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live over on twitch click the link in the video description but youtube gave

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us a community guideline strike for doing that before so this is more like

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our organic live streaming viewership through twitch honestly if we wanted

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more views on lan show we would just stream it to youtube

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our typical youtube stream viewership is over 10 000 concurrents we've had as

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high as i think 20 30 like big big numbers compared to what

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we do over here but honestly WAN Show at this point

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is not really about lots of viewers no

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it's actually probably even better having a slightly slower chat

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yep it's not about lots of viewers it's not about lots of money we could get a

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lot more sponsorship dollars for wancho if we managed it differently yeah like

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if we published it properly as a podcast if we know about the issues with

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that right no oh yeah apparently we've been doing

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double uploads one of which is usually corrupted for like some period of time

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oh i know yeah anyway yeah Colton's upload is corrupted well why does he

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upload i've told him this i don't know okay yeah i thought he stopped

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okay anyway there are definitely things we could do

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to make WAN Show better but for us WAN Show is just about sort

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of tradition at this point more than anything else

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like luke has better things to do now that he's ceo of Floatplane media quite

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frankly um well this is my like i work more

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hours than normal anyways so my weekend essentially starts like right before

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when show starts in like in how i calculate everything

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this is like this is i'm time off essentially right now

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so yeah we're just we're just kind of chilling doing our thing yeah uh telling

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you about our sponsors like spectrum

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uh oh i got some glasses yeah which ones you want that one

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all right let's see you probably got the lady ones

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actually i like these ones staring at a monitor all day can be hard

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on your eyes and make it tougher to fall asleep spectrum is an affordable long-term solution to staring at a

458
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:57,360
computer screen where you still get to stare at the computer screen

459
00:31:55,519 --> 00:32:00,399
using a software solution like flux and twilight doesn't give you the same type

460
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:05,600
of filtering that these do and spectrum's lineup includes many

461
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:08,960
stylish frames uh high high quality products with a one year warranty low

462
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:13,200
color distortion so even though you're filtering blue light you're still not

463
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:18,240
looking at just the entire world as though it has a big yellow

464
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:20,080
like sheet of you know cinefoil on it

465
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:24,080
and the highest rated among their competitors on amazon so they are

466
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:28,159
primarily focused around canadian and u.s customers but they are expanding to

467
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europe and they offer shipping internationally

468
00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:34,159
next up this is interesting

469
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,480
well now that you did i feel like i need to do it

470
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:45,600
i think you did it better did i yeah i think so hold on let's try it let's try

471
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,600
again okay you go first

472
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:53,279
we'll let the audience judge okay hold on let's remember same time

473
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:59,360
okay well we'll let twitch chat just spam it and tell us who did it better

474
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:59,360
okay okay ready three two one

475
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:05,679
damn it okay

476
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:10,320
i think you won i just got cracked up oh okay okay okay okay hold on hold on hold

477
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,679
on no i'm just buddy i'm doing a good job i'll light my cheek i'll bite my

478
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,679
cheek all of chad is getting timed out

479
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:22,760
automatically by the bot right now so there's that

480
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,760
okay

481
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:31,120
that was my weakest one i want i want to see what what twitch

482
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,120
dad says

483
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:38,000
i saw a lot of me yeah i think james apparently james

484
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,519
james wins good job james late laser james

485
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mvp

486
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497
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and then finally we've got moss

498
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,480
is there supposed to be a thing oh

499
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:46,159
it's hard to tell the difference i'm actually using one of their backpacks right now i quite like this one so this

500
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:51,520
is the moss organizer does yours have the orange inside um i think i rave

501
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:55,679
about this like every time yes it does but i love that and you use it every day

502
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:58,320
so do you notice it uh when i'm looking for something in the bottom of my bag

503
00:34:56,879 --> 00:35:03,440
yeah it's easier to find i can't now let's see if the one that they're

504
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,480
promoting on the show actually has i'm sure it does i think they all do oh

505
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:11,920
really yeah i think that's kind of their thing because their logo is orange right so it's got an expansion zipper so you

506
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:14,800
can increase the capacity or decrease it yeah personally i don't find that that

507
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:19,040
useful because i want my maximum capacity all the time i do the same so

508
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:23,200
much stuff but uh it's slightly wider and thinner oh it's got a wider and

509
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:27,280
thinner quick access pocket so is that uh this one i don't know what the quick

510
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:31,520
access pocket is but there you go this opens up a lot

511
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:37,200
this is some of the thread used to make the black pack i think they

512
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,880
meant backpack no that's the name of this oh the black oh i thought it was

513
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:44,560
the organizer well whatever oh the black pack oh cool yeah so it's apparently

514
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,880
really strong this is a handwritten note in here some

515
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:52,240
of our sponsors are hilarious i love that kind of stuff hilarious i think

516
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,640
that's super cool okay whoever wrote that note 10 out of 10.

517
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,839
okay now don't sandbag this okay well i want to try first

518
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:09,359
okay don't sandbag it break it if you can okay

519
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:13,839
he's been doing a lot of working out lately yes you got it no no no no the

520
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:16,480
tape came off i need more just your hands are small

521
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:23,920
i'm sorry you're not sorry you aren't sorry i can't get it out of

522
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:27,280
this thing oh i think i kind of did you break it yeah okay so you

523
00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:29,520
managed to break it yeah can you do it again

524
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,960
oh wow it cuts into you before it breaks

525
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960
i'll tell you that much

526
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,560
ah i need more okay okay all right not

527
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,440
bad in terms of other features they've got a sunglass holder in the top that's

528
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:49,520
been really handy on mine i have that same thing as well this one doesn't have quite as many

529
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:54,480
pockets as mine um frankly i don't end up using them a lot

530
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,680
of the time anyway oh and this one has their built-in um power strip thing

531
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:04,480
so you cable manage that through there's a hole somewhere around here

532
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,599
uh i can't remember exactly where it is but there's a cable management hole and

533
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,839
then it's got a regular outlet and it's got a couple of usb ports so the idea is

534
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,839
you can actually have all your devices and stuff like cable managed into your

535
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,920
bag so you can charge the whole thing by just oh am i holding it out of frame

536
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,440
sorry uh by just plugging in this one plug and then it just sits there and

537
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:29,200
all your junk inside charges including your laptop because it does have a full ac power i'm sorry for doing that to you

538
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:33,680
uh it's got a tablet holder as well as a laptop pouch and uh

539
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:38,800
it's got a five year warranty it's got a removable chest strap and uh

540
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:42,960
yeah that's pretty much it basically good stuff

541
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,839
really comfortable um i was using another bag for a little bit before this

542
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:51,839
one and i don't remember what this one's called and i don't think there's a label

543
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:56,000
anywhere that says what it's called but i'm sure you know

544
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,560
i'm sure you'll find it on their website if it comes to that but see it's got a

545
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:04,400
few more little like management things and especially this pocket the second

546
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:07,760
pocket i think this one's bigger it's got a few more little things that i

547
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,520
can put stuff in but i end up just kind of tucking everything into the bottom i

548
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:17,760
believe that's just called the moss pack okay so the pack i guess

549
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,400
so i did i did i busted it twice okay but it worked

550
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,640
the amount of effort that went into busting one thread was

551
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:30,000
was quite high i want to try again it kind of hurts i

552
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,359
know but i want to do it now

553
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,400
now that you did it i wouldn't have felt that if you couldn't do it

554
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:42,079
yeah like it doesn't feel like it's not comfortable yeah i think i almost cut

555
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,079
myself out like a few times

556
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:50,000
okay got it there you go okay okay so there you go moss challenge but it's a

557
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:54,320
single thread wow so like yeah no it doesn't feel like i've got yeah

558
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,839
yeah i've got those that's not a hand wrinkle that really hurts yeah

559
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,119
why do we do these things

560
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:10,560
all right so let's talk about uh thunderfoot's thing so um thunderfoot

561
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:14,320
back at it again with another myth busted

562
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:18,720
the three million dollar food scanner busted

563
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:23,920
so uh basically overall i watched part of the video and a lot of good points in

564
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,760
here about um these guys

565
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:30,560
look how credible she looks that's awesome um just feels like an infomercial

566
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:36,880
showing off their molecular scanner that they claim will allow you to uh see the

567
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:38,800
um the chemical breakdown of the food

568
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:43,680
that you pointed at or point their scanner at and

569
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:46,640
use something something infrared something something something something

570
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,440
something anyway uh the reason we're bringing this up is because

571
00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:56,480
footage from Techquickie was taken out of context in such a way

572
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,599
that it appeared as though we had been sponsored by one of these molecular

573
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:04,160
scanner companies and hadn't disclosed it

574
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,520
and now

575
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:11,599
we are not entirely not at fault here what we didn't do

576
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,720
was validate that these particular molecular scanners because we did bring

577
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,880
up at least one of them in the video we hadn't validated that they actually

578
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:24,720
worked because the video was about the technology in general which does work

579
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:29,680
and we mentioned in the video at the end of the video we mentioned that these

580
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,040
handheld ones were okay so actually midway through the video we mentioned

581
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,960
these handheld ones are not going to replace the

582
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:41,680
much more expensive versions of this technology that are for lab use we do

583
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,920
mention that and we also say at the end of the video that

584
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:49,920
we can't speak to the efficacy of these particular devices at this time

585
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:54,560
but we say you know we're excited to see where this technology heads unfortunately the way that it was

586
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:59,040
presented in this video um it made it look as though we were

587
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,160
endorsing the technology and the product in particular and that we hadn't

588
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,920
disclosed some kind of sponsorship another note that we have here i haven't

589
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:11,839
seen our version of this video to be completely clear but i know how we make things we could have done a better job

590
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:16,560
of saying that we hadn't validated it fair uh but apparently we do say the

591
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:20,240
company's claims we don't say that it absolutely works

592
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:24,160
this way we say that they claim that they work this way

593
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,560
so basically i just wanted to pull

594
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,760
i just wanted to talk to you guys and say hey

595
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:35,359
no we were not sponsored yes we could have done a better job of

596
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,800
making sure that a product that we're using as an example of a technology that

597
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:42,560
we're talking about actually works and does not come across

598
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:47,119
as endorsed and and we could do a better job of making sure it doesn't come across as endorsed

599
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,560
but the fact of the matter is we were not

600
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,240
sponsored we have nothing to do with that company we've never talked to them

601
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:59,119
we've made no effort to get our hands on their molecular scanner and yeah it's

602
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,640
probably bs based on what i've seen so far

603
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,760
the other thing that i also don't know i actually i have not looked into this the

604
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:12,079
other thing that i don't know is how the timing lines up so i don't know if these

605
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,480
were actually available to try yet

606
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:17,280
oh um okay at the time that we made the video so

607
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:23,520
when did we make this yeah we're just going to be a lot more cautious about any pieces we do on emerging technology

608
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:27,599
but the thing that frustrated me was just that the way it was presented made

609
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,599
us look like complete idiots um

610
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,920
well i think that's kind of his goal right yeah i guess so pretty much ever

611
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:42,160
that's his shtick yeah that's that's cool i guess

612
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:46,000
all right so next up that's a bit of digging yeah that video

613
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:49,280
is kind of old now yeah it's a couple of years old nearing

614
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:53,119
a year and a half yep

615
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:56,400
always actually we've got other news so this was posted on the forum by

616
00:42:54,400 --> 00:43:01,599
numlock21 and the original article is from video videocards.com so take that

617
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:05,280
for what it is uh let's just be let's just be very clear oh actually hold on

618
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:09,760
before we move on uh ran machan 97 asks are you going to

619
00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:12,960
copyright strike them for using your content improperly no they haven't

620
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:20,240
actually okay well we could make the argument that taking it out of context um

621
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,839
could be improperly but that's something that we would have to

622
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:28,800
fight in court that's not something that is as simple as

623
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:32,800
because you used our footage it has therefore been used improperly there

624
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:38,160
could be a fair use defense there if the argument is made that

625
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:41,440
one entity is reporting on something another one has done

626
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:46,319
that's how you can get around having a whole lot of footage from a movie with

627
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,480
just voiceover if you are using it

628
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:52,400
in order to critique the movie um so no honestly

629
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,839
normally we wouldn't even bring up something like this it was just that

630
00:43:54,079 --> 00:44:00,480
some members of our community that i actually recognized were in the comment

631
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,079
section on that video saying that they thought we were honest and they thought

632
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:08,880
we disclosed our sponsors and i wanted to make sure that you guys know we do

633
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:13,280
and never even had contact with them and we have nothing to do with those guys

634
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,680
aside from picking a topic that maybe was a little

635
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,720
premature someone brought up tarnishes your brand image perhaps i i don't think

636
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,880
we're gonna we're gonna do it we're not really in the in the market of signing

637
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,160
people yeah we're we're not really uh we're not really a drama channel like we

638
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:32,720
don't we don't really do that you know there's been there has been

639
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:36,160
far worse things that people have said about us but given that they didn't

640
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:42,160
raise the attention grabbed the attention of our community we have just completely ignored them because what's

641
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:46,960
the point of drawing attention to it yeah i mean all we've really done at

642
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:51,359
this point is give thunderfoot some more adsense revenue and that's really the

643
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,720
only thing that you accomplish typically through drama so

644
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,319
um i guess i'm gonna oh yeah okay i guess i'm gonna go off on a tangent here

645
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:02,800
i guess i'm gonna kind of um ruin youtube for a lot of the people that

646
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:07,839
haven't like clued into this but the vast majority of the drama you see

647
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,440
is manufactured not all of it but the vast majority not

648
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:15,200
all of it but more than you would probably think it is mutually beneficial

649
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:20,640
for two entities of some sort or another to

650
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:24,960
be feuding you know i wonder if that's the game

651
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:28,880
samsung and apple are playing like hold on a second

652
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:34,240
hold on a second think about this on a much don't much

653
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:38,319
hold on think about this on a much much larger scale fighting and nothing else

654
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:45,119
matters yes if apple wants their message to be that

655
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:54,319
their brand identity is unique and being copied

656
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:57,760
even i bet it costs less to sue samsung

657
00:45:54,319 --> 00:46:00,960
than it does to market that on tv

658
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,079
and if samsung wants their message to be

659
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:08,880
that we we forged our own path

660
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:14,079
are they not better off fighting apple in court where it will be

661
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:19,359
reported on by the same news outlets they would have to buy banner space and

662
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:24,480
ad space on maybe do they even care who wins maybe

663
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:33,040
whoa now now look normally i don't go all conspiracy

664
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,560
theory tinfoil hat but

665
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:41,200
i do not yes we do we both do that's like part of this show

666
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:46,720
well okay not not not okay not implausibly okay i think this is very

667
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,760
plausible though so then you're not doing it implausibly

668
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:52,000
right okay

669
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:58,720
okay okay well entire twitch chat mind blown collusion

670
00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:07,200
all the illuminati eyes bam Linus jones oh no that's not that's

671
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:10,880
not what i need oh boy uh don't say the full name apparently that can get you

672
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,880
like

673
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:21,760
the vast majority of the drama that you see

674
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:27,359
you know whether it's between actors or singers or i mean a great example of

675
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:30,800
this would be like wwe wrestlers

676
00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:31,680
right that is just so that both people's

677
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,160
names wwe wrestlers don't even remotely try to

678
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:40,160
hide that though not fair that's kind of its own thing well no but the crazy

679
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,599
thing is some people can do don't see it okay

680
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:47,680
that's fair but like it is it is very directly communicated as i know

681
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,599
yeah i know but what i'm saying is other people aren't

682
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:55,760
doing that communication wwe is being fairly transparent it's a show fine

683
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:59,359
whatever i i'm just saying i'm busting some bubbles out there it's not my fault

684
00:47:57,839 --> 00:48:03,760
that that bubble is entirely self-inflicted or that's like yeah okay

685
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:09,040
but i'm still busting bubbles and i'm still sorry yeah

686
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:14,560
twitch chat twitch chat's going nuts wrestling is real

687
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:18,960
yes olympic wrestling is real raslyn ksi versus logan paul

688
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:23,839
i don't even know who ksi is logan paul versus Jake paul

689
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:26,480
yeah that definitely logan paul versus x

690
00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:30,720
like a variable yeah one of them is like really sharply on the decline now i

691
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:34,720
can't remember which one of the paul's yeah one of them is kind of leveled off

692
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:38,400
and the other one is like in a nosedive right now

693
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:41,599
oh yeah that's i was talking to um i was talking to conflicts about this earlier

694
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:47,599
so he was saying that it was an advantage for me starting up on youtube

695
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:50,000
when i did like 11 years ago because the

696
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:54,640
playing field was far smaller oh that bit but hold on so the playing field was

697
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:59,599
far smaller and i said yes that is an advantage no explosive growth

698
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:04,960
but it's also a double-edged sword yes because the audience was much smaller at

699
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:10,960
that time so if you can make yourself heard above the

700
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,960
noise above the vast number of creators

701
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:18,880
that there are on youtube you have the potential for far more growth than i did

702
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:23,839
back then and far faster but if you can't make yourself hurt

703
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:25,119
above the noise then you're basically

704
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:29,680
hooped which one is it they're both getting

705
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:32,960
like lots of subscribers every day

706
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:37,359
this is Jake's his monthly views is going back up and his monthly subs is on

707
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:43,920
like the tiniest incline ever but technically an incline um

708
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:46,000
logan's views is on a decline and his

709
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:49,440
subs is more or less flat they're they're both not doing nearly as

710
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:53,359
well as they were in july in july they were both freaking kings of the world

711
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:58,480
and to put this in perspective this monthly sub count is only marginally

712
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,359
higher than ours on Linus tech tips so

713
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:07,839
like yeah they're big or whatever but they're not like i i would consider us mid mid

714
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:11,839
tier yeah um we're not top tier youtubers in the in the sense that like

715
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,559
because everyone in the world that's like connected to the internet probably

716
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:20,960
knows has heard these guys name at some point yeah i don't even they're on tv they're

717
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:26,240
in the news yeah casey talked about them okay i

718
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:30,160
guess almost every news thing on youtube talked about him at one point for me

719
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:34,559
when i divide into tears it's less how much of a household name you are because

720
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:37,520
you know you could find you know ex hollywood actors who have like

721
00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:42,240
semi-retired but still make youtube videos or whatever that's not their feel

722
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:47,920
like so okay when i divide it into two disney my point is that i don't take

723
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:49,839
like the entire uh yeah yeah

724
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,760
you got to see it as a pyramid not as like some kind of a linear scale

725
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,960
because if we were to take all the youtubers in existence yeah we're

726
00:50:55,359 --> 00:51:00,880
probably in the top fraction of a percent yeah that doesn't matter in

727
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:05,119
every category but that's not we're still mid-tier because there's only so

728
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:10,400
much room at the top and the guys that are at the top are on a very very

729
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,760
different level in terms of the momentum that their channels have the number of

730
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:19,280
views each of their videos get um so definitely a step down how is a

731
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:22,480
five million plus subs channel mid tier uh because there's like a few reasons

732
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:26,160
yeah there's far more to life than subscribers yes so here going back to

733
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,520
these numbers social blade's a great site i actually spend a fair bit of time

734
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:34,480
creeping other creators on there it is a great site so Linus tech tips good job

735
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:38,240
boys has never done 400

736
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:45,040
million views in a month Linus tech tips has still done a mere

737
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:50,480
one point i think it's about 1.5 billion views ever so to put that in perspective

738
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,359
in a single month uh logan paul

739
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:59,680
did a quarter as many views

740
00:51:56,079 --> 00:52:02,720
as Linus tech tips has ever done in its

741
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:05,440
10 year history

742
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:11,440
that is a different tier yeah when you're talking an order of

743
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:13,280
magnitude difference in viewership and

744
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:17,680
or like like what do what do we do in a month they also what didn't they only

745
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:21,119
join youtube well okay i think they had channels before them but did they

746
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:26,160
effectively join youtube like two years ago or something so Linus tech tips is

747
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:29,760
top month ever here let's have a look uh mind you our trajectory is looking a

748
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:33,839
little bit nicer but its top month ever was 68 million views

749
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:39,200
which is pretty good it is but

750
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:43,680
that is an order of magnitude difference and whenever someone is 10x

751
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:47,280
well they get to sit in a higher level of the pyramid

752
00:52:44,839 --> 00:52:51,440
yeah um and to be clear like i'm not like mad about it or anything it's just

753
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:54,960
that you know if i was if i was even a different content sphere there's like a

754
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:59,200
lot of things that are different yeah it's not it's not about that it's just

755
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:03,440
about like when we're when we're comparing something like our our

756
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:07,680
viewership numbers to theirs and that's stuff that we'll do but not

757
00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:11,839
to you know see who has the biggest dick or whatever it's it's more to do with if

758
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:16,319
we observe some kind of a change in our viewership yeah when we go okay is

759
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:20,079
google tweaking the algorithm what are they optimizing for we'll go and we'll

760
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:24,240
look at other channels known quantities and we'll go okay so the the big

761
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:26,720
channels the tier one channels we all see a little different they're going

762
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,319
this way or they're going this way yep yeah or we'll find some small channels

763
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:34,319
that we like to use as a yardstick oh these guys are getting boosted okay so

764
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:38,319
maybe youtube is favoring or we'll look at people who upload very prolifically

765
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,839
or we'll look at people who upload only once a week and we'll go oh interesting

766
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:45,359
so they're favoring very frequent uploaders or we'll look at people who

767
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:50,400
upload typically longer videos or shorter ones so we can use these metrics

768
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,200
to have a look at how youtube is tuning the algorithm that's one of the things

769
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:59,599
that we spend a fair bit of time on because for better or for worse our job is only

770
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,760
partially to make videos our job is also

771
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:07,200
to make people watch those videos on the youtube platform which behaves like a

772
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:10,880
a bucking bronco on acid yeah in terms of its prediction i like that

773
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:15,119
descriptive term that yeah to be real though and another thing is um in terms

774
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,400
of sub count a lot of people subscribe to a channel and then just slowly stop

775
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:24,400
watching it especially when the content type changes and like the the content type from back

776
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:27,920
when we were at ncx with the like zero editing unboxings yes that are five

777
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:32,559
minutes long to what we have now is a drastic change

778
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:35,520
and there's people that might prefer the old unboxing style and there's people

779
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,640
that might prefer now and there's probably a lot of people that don't

780
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,839
necessarily watch anymore because all they wanted was unboxings but they're

781
00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:46,079
still subscribed because youtube will just slowly hide our channel

782
00:54:43,839 --> 00:54:50,480
if you look at a channel like pewdiepie he has changed

783
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:55,359
drastically and like a few times yeah so he has like huge

784
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,359
buckets of users from different and he's been huge every

785
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:02,160
time he's changed so he has huge buckets of users from all these different

786
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:07,119
segments that are all subscribed to him all the same time that doesn't mean they're all watching right now

787
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:11,520
if you look at the subscriber count versus the views it's it's yeah you know

788
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:17,440
what this is a great example because it's as close to apples to apples as we

789
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:19,200
can do both techwiki and techlinked are

790
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:22,960
tech channels so they exist within the tech vertical they are both being

791
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:27,040
uploaded from the same ip there's some speculation that your geographical

792
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:32,880
location does affect the way that your content gets propagated um they are both

793
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:35,920
hosted at least sometimes by the same

794
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:38,800
people they are similar lengths they

795
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:42,880
both have one baked in sponsor spot so there's a lot of analogs that we can

796
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:45,920
find between these two channels but what you're going to see is that like what

797
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:51,520
luke was saying because Techquickie has a much older

798
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:57,440
audience many of the subscribers from which have sort of died on the vine

799
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:01,280
techquicky is going to do let's have a look here anywhere from

800
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,000
hundred 275 twenty thousand one hundred and ninety thousand three hundred thousand so why

801
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:09,760
don't we say anywhere from two hundred thousand to three hundred and fifty

802
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,640
thousand one back over the last couple of weeks there's some spiky ones but on

803
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:16,400
two hundred to four hundred why don't we say that there we go this one just went up five hours ago so we're not counting

804
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:25,359
that now let's go have a look that won't even have updated properly TechLinked which

805
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:27,920
has not 2.2 million but only 488 000

806
00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:40,400
subscribers and let's have a look at our viewership there 335 from a day ago 383

807
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:43,680
300 238 286 275 244 238 444 000 276

808
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,280
another 400 another 400 000 one

809
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:50,160
so consider this so back to the whole um

810
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,240
would someone like logan paul be in a different tier than us especially when

811
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:58,720
he's doing you know 400 million views a month so yeah he might have only had 12

812
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:04,319
million subscribers at that time but given that they were all fresh and you

813
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:06,880
look at TechLinked which has one sixth

814
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:11,119
as many subscribers or so as techquickie but does similar viewership because its

815
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:16,000
subscribers are fresh and you consider how much bigger than

816
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:20,319
his engaged audience probably was at that time given that it was a bigger and

817
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:23,599
b much fresher that means it's probably more than just

818
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:26,960
like a 10x difference i mean we're probably talking more like a 20 or 30 x

819
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:31,920
difference in terms of the engaged audience apparently you have you have glitter somewhere on your face and

820
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:37,200
twitch chat literally will not stop talking about it i don't know

821
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,799
i actually drive that car yeah so yeah

822
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:43,440
that there's glitter on my face is not surprising my son i'm just i've tried doesn't want to get into it

823
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:48,160
i don't blame him it looks like it actually is like sick

824
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,640
it looks like a sick car i just found out

825
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:55,040
that i might be being sent down to san

826
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:58,640
francisco in the near future i am so surprised why

827
00:57:56,559 --> 00:58:04,480
um i don't know you travel all the time sponsored thing okay but no no the

828
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,799
important thing about san francisco oh boy

829
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:14,240
is that oh boy that you should do a video on it is the

830
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:18,640
location of lightning motorcycles you shouldn't

831
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:21,760
buy one but you should do a video on it you should contact them seriously or is

832
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,799
it lightning bikes no is it lightning motorcycle yeah there we go

833
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:29,200
so i actually have reached out to them good

834
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:34,799
since we last talked about it and i have arranged for a test ride nice

835
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:38,880
yep uh to buy one just like for a video yeah

836
00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:41,359
um i told them i was considering buying one

837
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:46,400
are you filming it uh you should phone maybe not wow i

838
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:50,160
don't know a lot it's a really cool bike it's electric and stuff yeah do you

839
00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:53,440
think i should film it i think so i don't know should we straw pull it yeah

840
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:56,640
yeah they're just going to say yes yeah they're the lan show audience like

841
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:01,440
if we told them should we make a video of me and luke just eating our boogers

842
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:07,119
for like six minutes like seeing who can see who can harvest the most booger like

843
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:10,480
they'd probably be into it not that we're saying you guys don't

844
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:16,319
have you know great taste

845
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:19,440
um you know the most discerning viewers

846
00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:21,599
but no oh no no no no don't straw pull

847
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,480
that why not i want to show how to test our theory

848
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:27,760
oh okay they're obviously going to say yes i'll do the other one okay just just

849
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,040
put it just put it in the twitch chat just put it in the twitch chat here on

850
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:36,960
screenshot the bike one is my screen's sharing you it's gonna be no no question

851
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:36,960
go back go back to your results

852
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,599
a whole bunch of people in chat are saying boogers yes

853
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:51,119
ah oh dude yes is that 80 right now 77 79

854
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:55,359
80. we're holding on okay so what we're gonna find out here because i'm about to

855
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,720
post my poll it's okay is if people would prefer

856
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:03,200
boogers or bikes boogers is holding on at 79

857
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:08,319
right now okay hold on i need i need a minute here oh

858
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,920
that's because you're a bikes voter

859
01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:14,319
there's nothing wrong with being a bikes voter it's a good thing

860
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:19,200
it's better than being a booger photo you keep telling yourself that's

861
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,200
disgusting we would watch that

862
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:25,760
i mean like isn't like the popping pimple niche like huge on youtube what

863
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:31,680
no yeah no like cysts and pimples and stuff is like a

864
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,880
huge millions of views can you post that for me i'm not logged in

865
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:39,440
you have got to be careful oh did you send it to me

866
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:41,760
i thought so i tried

867
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:44,960
yes um oh hold on you know what i think i'm fine i'm logged in

868
01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:48,640
uh hold on no i'm not logged in yet wait

869
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:52,000
yes i am logged in and you're sharing my screen i'm logged

870
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:57,119
in yeah i'm showing your screen don't worry about it oh oh right right right right okay well whatever i'm logged in

871
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,480
there we go all right let's see the bike results

872
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:05,200
boogers held steady at around eighty percent seventy we're zen at 78. you've

873
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,640
got it with a thousand votes we're at about a thousand rounds

874
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:12,640
all right let's just let me get to the results page here this is ridiculous

875
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:21,200
okay okay okay so the audience has spoken they prefer bikes to boogers yeah

876
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:28,640
um by a pretty significant margin i am so surprised pretty significant

877
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:32,000
yeah 94 versus 78

878
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:34,079
is i would say a significant margin

879
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:38,240
it's significant significant the word has a freaking yeah no definition i know

880
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:42,480
but there's been significant no you're not definition no no

881
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:46,799
we're doing this we're doing this right now okay uh

882
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:50,799
uh okay i think it's a letter grade difference probably caused by something

883
01:01:48,799 --> 01:01:55,760
other than mere chance statistically significant okay

884
01:01:53,680 --> 01:02:01,280
so it's significant it is all right yeah and you know what else is significant

885
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,280
the end of the win show

886
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:07,760
we have to go home can't happen by mere chance

887
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:11,680
actually it's happened by chance a lot it has so thanks for watching guys we'll

888
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:17,680
see you again next week same bat time same bat channel bye

889
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,319
cougars are riot

890
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:27,040
are you guys doing a games bump

891
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:30,079
i'm i'm not going to gamescom i'm going to packs west i don't think i'm working

892
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:33,040
there though so meet up um

893
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,720
yeah so i was invited to gamescom by NVIDIA

894
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:42,319
and uh basically i'm at the point now where

895
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:46,480
traveling for four days factor in a

896
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:49,839
uh a ticket like a plane ride there plane ride back so there's a couple days

897
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:53,359
because it's in germany it's not exactly close

898
01:02:51,359 --> 01:02:57,680
there's no direct flight so it's like a day of travel each way

899
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:01,280
plus you know actually being there and attending the event

900
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,520
i'm at the point now where i'm just like not gonna do that kind of thing anymore

901
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:09,520
because um well they they for some insight they they brief you on it

902
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:13,839
immediately before the stream the like NVIDIA stream yeah and they

903
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:19,280
don't tell you as much as they're gonna as they

904
01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:23,200
and your embargo is after the stream so there's actually no point in being there

905
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:26,559
you might as well be back in the studio you should probably just like be here

906
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:30,720
and ready to go just like be on the Techquickie set

907
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:34,799
yeah maybe i might just not even or who cares yeah i don't know like

908
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:39,760
i don't know i'm i'm getting kind of tired of of manufacturing if it's that

909
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:44,720
but if it's that tweaked and a few things added pascal

910
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:49,839
i'm getting kind of tired of manufacturers trying to control

911
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:54,079
the use cycle yeah um like i've talked about this off stream before but like

912
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:59,280
uh this whole thing where there's an announcement embargo and an unboxing

913
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:03,280
embargo and a reviews embargo and a freaking

914
01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:09,520
i don't know new color scheme embargo um you know and to me what it's

915
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:13,680
max of is wanting wanting like because none of it's

916
01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:16,559
they're trying to flex yeah to make you do a whole bunch of pieces of content

917
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:21,200
yes and that's that's what it is the problem we don't have a problem doing content

918
01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:25,200
we'll do content about all kinds of things we uh we lift our threadripper wx

919
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,000
up to a chiller like there's a commercial chiller you can just buy it's

920
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,920
for an aquarium it goes down to yeah four degrees yeah and it's like nicely

921
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:36,160
self-contained i should show it to you after it's actually really sick it's not even that expensive when you consider

922
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:40,880
what a custom water cooling loop can cost um anyway so you know we hooked our

923
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:45,839
Threadripper wx up to that um you know overclocked it as high as we could like

924
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:49,839
yeah that that's fine but the difference is that a lot of the kind of coverage

925
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:54,000
that you are expected to be doing in this announcement on boxing stuff the

926
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:57,440
only information they give you is basically marketing bullet points so

927
01:04:55,839 --> 01:05:00,880
what they're effectively asking for is free advertising and i'm at the point

928
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:04,079
now where i don't do advertising for free and you can kind of

929
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:09,119
you can read into that whatever you want you know maybe it comes across maybe i come

930
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,280
across like a prick i don't know i don't think so but at the end of the day if

931
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:17,200
you expect me to advertise your product then i expect you to pay me so that i

932
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:20,160
can pay my bills and pay my staff and disclose it to the audience and disclose

933
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:23,920
it to the audience that's how advertising works and that's why i think

934
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:29,359
you don't come across like a prick because that kind of stuff should be disclosed if you want advertising then

935
01:05:27,359 --> 01:05:35,119
fine but you have to pay for it it isn't free and it should be a transaction

936
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:39,599
objective coverage of the product the way that i want to cover it then just

937
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,039
send the product and we'll do it on our terms yeah so

938
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:47,799
that's kind of the way i see it now anyway that's it for the stream bye guys goodbye