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welcome back to secret shopper where we go undercover to find who delivers the

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best value gaming experience we're going to be having a look at just what arrived

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in the mail we're going to unbox these systems and what an experience i'm

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expecting that to be they came in everything from a cardboard box to a

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wooden shipping crate we're going to crack them open and we're going to see

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who delivered on their promises and who

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dell once again was one of the least impressive of our pc builders

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and probably the worst thing about it from a dell standpoint was that they

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didn't even manage to send us to their gaming division alienware so dude

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we really did just get a dell packing here i would say is a b at best

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it's environmentally friendly but in terms of the protection for the

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system i would call this

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mediocre at best power cable

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and then the really cheap keyboard and mouse that if it wasn't a gaming system

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i'd say yeah sure this is fine this probably won't end up in an e-waste bin

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but it'd be nice if they had kind of a step up then again maybe they do but

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they forgot to sell us an alienware so

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without asking dell went with a mid-tower case and from a cost

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perspective that makes sense as you shrink components down they tend to get

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more expensive and as you get bigger there tends to be just more raw material

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involved so matx is a good middle ground

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from a manufacturing standpoint this is

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man there's almost nothing that i look at about this and i go

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gaming though like on the back look at this weak cooling

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80 millimeter fan when's the last time you saw an 80

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millimeter fan like unironically in a brand new computer yeah what about the

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power supply and what power supply standard is this

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i have no idea graphics card we got

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six usb ports on the back presumably

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gigabit lan not even like the full complement of six audio jacks

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what year is it so i think this is actually like the same computer that we

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bought for like the go to best buy and spend a thousand dollars the same idea

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but maybe a little bit more souped up because we spent some more money souped up you say yeah that does not look very

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souped up to me sir but look at the outside it's so nice wow that cooler

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that's better than i was expecting you know the cooler that's a three heat pipe

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cooler with uh looks like it might need to be a 92 millimeter fan

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actually the CPU cooler fan might be bigger than the case fan

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doesn't look like it would be fun to get out of there to fix though and there's

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almost no other cooling in this system there's

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an air intake at the front and this power supply like why are they what is

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that like flex it's 80 plus platinum though wow okay all right dell you know what

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the system arrived in 12 days that's 12 days days not business days so i would

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consider that to be a pretty reasonable amount of time and

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oh my god why does it have a hard drive i actually kind of forgot what was in

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this thing wait no that's a line item for the sticker

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no yeah look make sure you get the right

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one this is interesting remember that video we did recently on

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the atx 12 volt only standard well dell

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has already gone ahead and transitioned so this proprietary power supply here

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isn't for no reason at all it's actually not using the traditional atx connector

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so all we've got here is a 12 volt

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six pin connector and then two more four

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pin 12 volt connectors up here so the power supply only delivers 12 volt power

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that's probably how they manage to hit 80 plus platinum yeah relatively

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inexpensively what is this a gtx 1650 in

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here 1660 ti sorry so that is quite a

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bit better but not great for the price no one of the

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things that we put together for each of the systems is a comparable system on pc

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part picker there is some things that are actually better about this system

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now you'll notice on the system we actually have a proper SSD oh that is

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not a proper SSD that is dramless af

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got it and for just 1165.98

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with a 40 million rebate

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that's rough not looking great yeah wow i'm actually surprised that the power

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supply i expect is worse than the one in here

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i went for a 500 watt gold okay all right so credit to dell for you know

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moving to the new 12 volt only standard and credit to dell for the wiring in the

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case super clean super clear and some of it

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is even pre-run for things that you don't have installed out of the box like

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these two and a half inch bays up here if you wanted to add some more solid state storage in the future just run

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that across and the power cables are already run for you

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no display yeah there's no display outputs i'm pretty sure this is a 10-700

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k though so you could have output i think it's a kf

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okay so the only reason i didn't do the kf is because pricing online was like

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all over the place the kf is stupid if you're just buying the parts directly

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because Intel doesn't really discount it compared to the one that does have

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onboard graphics on the subject of upgradeability the main ones are the

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drives graphics card the SSD right here it doesn't look like

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there's a secondary m.2 slot anywhere on this board

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and memory to dell's credit there's four slots on here so you could conceivably

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upgrade to 64 gigs of RAM without actually throwing away the included

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stick but this included stick is a bit of a

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problem in a couple of ways number one one stick

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no dual channel operation what are you guys doing and number two

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because this system is using a cheaper b series chipset it's actually capped at

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29.33 although i don't know who to thank for that more dell or Intel

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this is weird my eight pin connector is just kind of

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like jammed in here like it wasn't slid together properly it's a pretty easy fix

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you just have to take the thing and like slide it on

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properly it's just a really careless thing to not do in the first

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place overall expectations for this thing pretty low i'm expecting it to be

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quiet but not have great thermals and

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not have great performance let's move on hp might not have much in terms of like

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corporate sex appeal but what they did at least manage to do is direct us to

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their omen brand of gaming desktops that

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at least tries to have a little sex appeal credit to hp for their packing

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they don't waste any material here but they still manage to have a nice thick

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layer of this really soft and flexible

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foam in between the system and the outer box

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in terms of included accessories we've got a pretty basic package here so like

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your quick start guide and power cable

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is this the same keyboard look at the cable it's way nicer yeah i don't know

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yeah it's fine it's a free add-on all right okay all right all right free

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keyboard is this the same mouse no it's a

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different mouse different mouse okay well cool it might be worse yeah feel

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that click it was free it's like a free tv all

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right all all right we are off to a much

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better start already here ladies and gentlemen

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oh whoa

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is that tempered glass does that actually look like a regular computer

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that's tempered glass whoa it's not even acrylic

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bang pampered glass side panel to be clear i

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wouldn't be as impressed if they were like a boutique system builder but like

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it's like hp we're talking about here how long did it take to get here well

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this one's a little interesting now like last time they canceled our order again

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because we used google voice to call but this time they didn't tell us we didn't

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get an email or a phone call or anything i don't think they told us last time either actually they they just canceled

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it i was like ah everything's here except the hp one and i go online i had

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to make an account to check the order and then it shows this cancel i'm like

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what the heck so it turns out they're actually out of stock on this model and we had to buy it from best buy which

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means we don't really have a good date for how fast it would have came but um

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your mileage may vary yeah we've got two

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front usb 3 ports front audio power button

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i really like this case yeah you know it's not over the top or anything but

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it's just pretty stylish black cables

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yeah like i i'm liking it they use the stock cooler

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thank you hp yeah like why reinvent the

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wheel right one button for internal access pop that

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tempered glass side panel off just like that dang

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it looks like a standard atx power supply so big plus there

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pretty uh mediocre rear i o so six usb

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ports uh two of them are 10 gig and one's type c though so that's nice the

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dell had type c on the front though which this didn't so

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give or take there nothing special in terms of audio

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oh really again with the single channel memory

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what is this oh and it only has two slots hp what are

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you doing you go you go and design a motherboard you go to all the effort to

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design a motherboard with two memory slots and you'll only populate one of

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them because it's hyperx though you gotta get the hyperx in there another

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strike against hp is that they're using a last gen so a 9th gen Intel core i7

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processor it's a 9700 i mean to be clear that's still fast CPU for gaming and

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everything it's just why last gen maybe they got a deal on

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them like i don't really know we've got 512 gigs of a significantly better ss

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deal but we'll have to see if that actually translates into any usability

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improvements one terabyte drive this custom motherboard that they didn't even

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bother to put a chipset cooler on which is like

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probably fine but why and then a 750 watt 80 plus platinum

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power supply i'm really pleased to see a totally

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standard configuration that allows you to upgrade pretty much every component

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of this system including even the front switches and leds are not only using

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standard pin outs they're even labeled so if you were to throw like an

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aftermarket motherboard in here or something like that you could totally do

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it at standard atx except that wait did

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i lie no i didn't the 24 pin connector is just

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in the weirdest freaking location ever i was like is it atx 12 volt only again

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it's down here who puts a 24 pin down there

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again to hp's credit though they didn't go into a proprietary power supply with

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like a four-inch 24-pin cable they just cable managed it yeah so you could go

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and you could swap this motherboard if you really wanted to kudos 100 kudos

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another nice thing is that a this is an

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rtx 2070 super a much faster card than

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what shipped in the dell and we squeaked in just under our budget and b they've

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got this great GPU brace included that means the odds of this coming free

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during shipping look very very low

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pretty standard blower style card nothing special there but

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i mean i'm pretty happy with this 92 millimeter fan ooh hold on i might have

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spoken too soon filtered intake on the bottom though

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no look at that

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magnetic filtered intake what easy cleaning whoa

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yeah right i wish it had another exhaust at the top or something like that but

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it's not bad at least you've got this fresh air coming in from the bottom the

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front is solid so you got fresh air coming in from

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these are really small feet for a bottom intake

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don't put this thing on carpet oh yeah really don't because your power supply

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intake is on the bottom too and that looks really restrictive come on hp you

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guys gotta know better than that i've got reasonable expectations for this one

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what hp got right is the modularity of the components any one of them could be

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swapped out if something went wrong in the future and you weren't covered under warranty but what they got wrong is a

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last-gen CPU running single channel memory in a case that

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honestly i have pretty low expectations for in terms of thermals that could come

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back to bite them and we're going to keep a close eye on that in our performance testing

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110 price difference that's not bad for assembly and warranty

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i buy power coming up next

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whoa hey wow an RGB keyboard that looks

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terrible that might not actually be RGB either it's just rainbow oh yeah it

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might just be red green and blue

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you know things i'm not convinced the key switches

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actually feel much better than the dell check out how the backspace wobbles if i

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press a key over here look how far down the y key is compared to the t

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i have never seen anything like that we

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got addressable RGB and what looks to be

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a bunch of addressable RGB fans those are expensive yeah

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which i'm sure we discovered when we tried to match the spec in pc part

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picker got the manuals included for our just

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off-the-shelf components like our x570p motherboard from ASUS

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got power cable and the zeus e2 optical

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gaming mouse for gamers this is the least horrible feeling mouse

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so far you can tell i buy power learned their lesson about cheaping out on foam many

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many moons ago because this is about

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as good as it gets

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step 1 removing the side panel like this or like that step two removing the phone

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packaging step three check your connections there should really be like

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a qr code for a video that i can watch to show me because this is like

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one thing like what about all the other connections so good effort

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could be better pretty basic front i o couple usb 3s

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audio power button that's about it wow there's

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three fans taking an air from the front and just a tiny vent here and a tiny

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vent along the bottom to feed them that middle fan is going to be doing basically nothing steve from gamers

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nexus would not approve nice magnetic removable mesh filter doodad not really

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much point having a filter on an exhaust but hey you know it looks nice so

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there's that having this little sticker here is a small investment for ibuypower

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to make in making sure that their customers don't accidentally plug into

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the oh no it's a paper sticker

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now i can't even put something in my usb port without jamming paper in it oh

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there's like this glue all over it horrible

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let's see if i can step up my sticker removal game here and do a bit of a

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better job you know maybe it's all in my technique

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nope it's actually that bad oh no it's

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leaving residue oh my god this is

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what is what a stupid thing to get so wrong you

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could have bought plugs for like two cents there you go i buy power now

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you're stuck with that the rear of the case aside from this horrible residue

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looks pretty good though we've got a good mix of usb 3 including 10 gigabit

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we've got four 10 gigabit ports this is another pretty expensive little trick

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that can save you a lot of shipping damage over the years what it does is it

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supports your graphics card which is normally one of the most susceptible to

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shipping damage components and uh also the radiator back here and

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kind of braces them against the side panel so they won't come free during shipping and it looks like

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it worked just fine there's a lot of fans in here for the price though and

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they're argb dressable RGB you say

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and they even managed to put dual channel memory in it also with RGB

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this thing's gonna light up like our christmas tree take a look all right it's got an rtx 2070 super this is an

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MSI model and assuming we can get enough air into the case it should do fine with

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this cooler even though it's recirculating the hot air inside and

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then it's actually got a single 120 millimeter aio that's got i buy power

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branding that's going to be taking that warm air and cooling the CPU fortunately

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the ryzen 7 3700x doesn't run particularly hot so my expectations are

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that it's going to be fine 650 watt 80 plus gold power supply that's an Intel

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SSD that's a 660p 512 gig

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no hard drive in this one but given how much better the specs are the fact that

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i'm getting like an ASUS motherboard instead of some random one with only two

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slots or like you know non-standard connectors on it

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it's looking like a pretty good value so far in fact compared to our pc part

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picker it came in 77 dollars less expensive

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the pc part and this one doesn't even have RGB fans on it yeah so if you add the RGB fans

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which i found there's cooler master ones that are 16 bucks they're even more expensive sorry yeah should we turn this

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one on even though we didn't turn on the other ones i want to see how much it glows that's very RGB and it's cheaper

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we can't show you guys look you gotta you got to watch the next part we got a

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it's an expensive series we're buying a lot of computers

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that's why we need we need dbrand to sponsor it oh we're doing like a custom

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sticker thing there's like a Linus face you know about this right there's gonna be a Linus face skin and then another

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one that's like way cooler but yeah it wasn't that much cooler wow that's

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subjective we'll let you guys be the judge with four day shipping that's

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incredible and the best specs we've seen so far

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this is i buy power's race to lose at this point i think i was bringing this

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out to repack it and i noticed something

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this panel's dented i don't think it's dented it's bulging because there's too

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many cables back there no no cables what do you mean there's

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cables right there that's not to put oh yeah all right we'll look at it without

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it dent it oh you're opening it before you even see the computer well just uh i

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don't know cyber power i'm a detective not a genius

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all right got a mouse those are some

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reasonable if kind of oh these side buttons are mushed fantastic wow wait

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these buttons are totally broken

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probably the best keyboard we've seen so far it's not amazing to be clear but it was

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free got our wi-fi antenna in there this one's got wi-fi got the wi-fi i mean the

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other ones had wi-fi but that's fine these guys they copy each other's like

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company name and then do they copy each other's documentation they only show one

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cable here you're like oh yeah check this one

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okay what about the other ones connect your display use this not that

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perfect connect all your other crap all right not bad

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they've got a sticker on the i o better not be crappy packing materials not as

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good as i buy power similar grade of packing material here but not as thick

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and that does make a difference so you can see at the back these screws go

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right to the edge of this foam so a sharp hit here would hit the screw

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transfer that force to the case and potentially dent it yeah it's the same

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right here too in fact it got dented see

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how that screw is sticking out at a weird angle that's really dented too

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yeah it's kind of rough in fact this one's dented this one's really dented this one's a

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little dented like why guys you surely you gotta like know this stuff right

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don't you do test shipments i'm gonna give it its best chance here

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okay that looks like a plasticky sticker like okay not bad

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oh wait the side broke ah dang it okay not perfect but way better than i buy

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power let me just give it a little wipey wipe there you go all right front panel

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is dented into is it really oh that's pretty rough oh it took a

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beating oh wow yeah it got like kicked or something look at this

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there's nothing obvious about it but it is pretty crumply like in there yeah in

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terms of case design i've got pretty high hopes for this one even though it

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does have a solid front panel meaning no ventilation

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what it also has is a vent over on the side here that depending on the internal

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layout could be all right pretty basic front i o two usb threes

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both type a power reset headphone microphone jack and then rear

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i o is well it's whatever you get on the motherboard right but reasonable mix of

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usb 3 usb 3 10 gig and usb 2.

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for whatever reason they didn't just go with a motherboard that has built-in

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wi-fi and instead added a wi-fi card like is that really a savings guys

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12 regular days 12 days okay all right

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not terrible not terrible tempered glass side panel cyberpower

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took the same approach to internal packing with one of these expanding

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instapack doodads i figured out why they went this route for the wi-fi it's

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because they're actually using a little mpcie Wi-Fi card so those legitimately

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are cheaper and then you just get one of these back panels and run the

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wires like this in terms of cable management it's fine i do not understand

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their approach to cooling here though i'm a little confused where is the air

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supposed to come into this case so you've got a solid front panel here

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no air coming in there you've got these exhausting but not directly right

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there's a gap like that so they're going to be just kind of recirculating air

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from the back panel here and like i don't know what they're doing this is

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exhausting this is exhausting they went push pull even though it doesn't make

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that much of a difference you're usually better off with one higher quality fan

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than two kind of mediocre ones and push pull to their credit at least the specs

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are pretty good we've got a core i7 10 700 700k we've got 16 gigs of dual

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channel memory so that's a plus today apparently now that half of

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our contestants haven't gotten that far 3 000 megahertz they're using a z490

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chipset motherboard so the RAM will actually run at that speed that's good

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but our graphics card is an rx 5700 xt now that's going to do

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pretty well compared to the dell i think but

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hp and i buy power are

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well let's look at the name it says challenger it doesn't say winner i

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haven't been pulling the back panel off all of them but this one i kind of had

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to a to get a look at the 650 watt 80 plus gold power supply and b

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because cyberpower were the only ones to

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go with a two and a half inch SSD boot drive so they went smaller and they went

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two and a half inch instead of m.2 not that i'm expecting it to make any

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difference for games except it can now because of direct

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storage way to go cyber power to cyber powers credit though they

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managed to come in 20 lower than if we just bought these parts

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on pc part picker this one did include the fans properly so that's good and

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then uh technically if we sent in a 30 mail in rebate we could beat it but

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he's got time for that so i've got pretty high hopes for this one except

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for that GPU choice and cooling and that our case was dented out of the box now

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for the fun one i mean can you imagine someone buying a

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1500 computer and thinking

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wow i should spend a hundred dollars on a shipping crate

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for it watch it be the most banged up one should just be broken inside

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i'm broken inside in fairness this would be very important if this was like a six

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thousand dollar machine with like 80 pounds worth of hard line water cooling

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in it what even is this from origin pc 50

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thank you fro choosing origin pc welcome

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to the origin pc family what are you guys doing

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it's a visa reward yeah it's a virtual credit card there the omni card reviews

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are 1.7 out of 5 stars this is our first boutique builder of the lot and i'm

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already feeling the more one-off-ness of it this box is double folded and there's

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actually a slit here that was made with a knife after the fact origen is using a

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single generic case and then just resizing it a little bit for shipping

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depending on what case the customer chose

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packing material i would say is like a

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i'd say that's a solid a minus dude it came in a crate well no i mean oh right

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yeah i forgot about that okay the packing material is an a plus

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oh got an included mouse pad yeah it was it was free

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yeah it was free just like the visa debit card prepaid debit card this does

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actually feel pretty nice not that you'll need one because you're going to be waiting for the LTT

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mousepadltstore.com where'd my free t-shirt go here oh this

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actually feels pretty good got a god

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smells like these guys just got acquired by Corsair

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got a Corsair thumb drive in there with your presumably os 32 gig thumb drive

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though free except that you paid for it i've got some modular cables this is the

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first unit to have a modular power supply included for free except that you

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paid for it their packing is ridiculous like this this is probably at the point

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where the packing is like 10 to 15 percent of the cost of this

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computer i'm looking for imperfections here i'm hungry you're not going to find

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them got pretty basic front i o microphone combo jack don't like to see

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that on a desktop i prefer to see discrete jacks on a desktop uh the front

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usb 3. yeah yeah yeah most headsets have a separate like doesn't look like that

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i'm still mad tempered glass tempered glass is now apparently standard i guess

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i shouldn't have been quite as impressed when hp had it but still i have to

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remove my 8-pin pci express connector in order to get this foam out oh we got a

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code for fall guys let's dial it back and focus on some positive things here

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though cable management it's great best we've seen so far looks

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fantastic the cooling configuration um

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unconventional but better than some of the stuff we've seen

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for sure like i would bet money on it we've got two intakes here at the top

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here at the front an exhaust right here the one thing i might have changed is

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this front one i'd have probably put it over here so that you're bringing nice fresh air across the GPU they managed to

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put dual channel memory in 3000 megahertz

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but what i don't know is even though this is a z490 series chipset

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motherboard so we should have support for three thousand plus megahertz RAM we

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are not running a k series processor this is the weakest CPU out of all the

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systems so far just a core i5 10 406

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core not overclockable or anything like that so that's

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has the potential to hold them back or at least it would if we weren't running a gtx 1660 super this is also the

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slowest graphics card we've yet seen this is interesting i figured out the 50

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gift card what there's our current special offer free shipping plus 50

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dollar rewards card with AMD ryzen

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remember when we tried to buy ryzen for this thing it was too expensive

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well maybe it would have been the cheapest option if they just get 50 off

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all right storage we got a 250 gig

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seagate barracuda SSD they don't specify

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exactly what kind but uh it's not m.2 because there's nothing under there so i

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guess it's a two and a half incher probably hiding down here in the bottom

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one terabyte origin pc approved hard drive and it turns out that is a seagate

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compute hard drive as well i mean there is nothing else much to

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really say about this puppy it arrived here in immaculate condition uh oh how

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long did this one take to arrive 24 regular days

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are they really that backed up how do we factor in

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fall guys one gildan t-shirt one mouse pad a lot of the 50 visa card

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some of the other ones you got free games with the gpus though why don't we say 1400 bucks that is a whopping

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360 dollars more than putting this together yourself so you can pay

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yourself 150 bucks an hour to assemble

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your own computer we're on to boutique builder number two

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jay 14 days 14 days to arrive

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reasonable for a computer that's reasonable i think that's fine especially if it's a custom built to

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fair a grade foam here although these thumb screws you can see they did get

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pretty close to the edge nice magnetic filter on the top

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no fans there though so we're gonna have to have a look at what the cooling configuration is like in here three usb

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threes and a type c got also a headphone microphone jack and power button right

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there illuminated main gear logo on the front

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it's a handsome chassis not a lot of uh air intake here just

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this one side here bottom is pretty much right down flat

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against the table so we'll have to see how that holds up and rear i o well

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this is where we see how main gear has

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moved to address the more entry-level market

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origin went and cheaped out on core specs you get a worse graphics card you

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get a worse CPU that sort of thing and to be clear

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main gear specs are still not competitive with what we got from hp

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dell ibuypower those guys cyber power for that matter at least they cost it

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down tempered glass panel in ways that i mostly think makes sense so we went AMD

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and instead of blowing a bunch of money on a

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crate and you know a high-end motherboard we

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went with a b450m pro vdh max motherboard so it's an matx board you do

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tend to save a little bit of money like that four sticks of memory that's a

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really weird one more about that later

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um and we went AMD for our CPU which honestly i was expecting more of them to

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do AMD third gen ryzen such a great value compared to origin they managed to

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get a much better graphics card in the system this is an rtx 2060 super but i'm

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still expecting it to get beat up pretty badly by the machines with 20 70 class

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cards and cooling makes a fair bit more sense we're looking at two 120

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millimeter intakes up here at the front we've got just a stock cooler spending

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money on an aio for a system in this price point really doesn't make a ton of

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sense especially when you consider that they don't perform that well and then a

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single looks like led lit 120 millimeter

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exhaust this is weird hold on a second can i

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have a look at this round first what is going on here who ships four gig sticks anymore

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it's 3200 megahertz cl 16 4 gig hyperx

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RAM why i don't know i wonder if like kingston

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was just they have extra oh

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why would you do that what did you pardon me why did you just

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throw the ramp i was gesturing probably fine

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all right all right like origin main gear didn't include

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00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:58,240
crummy peripherals assuming that either you would have your own or

450
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:04,480
you wouldn't be buying an original remainder system this is not as nice as

451
00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:09,039
the origin mouse pad important stuff very uh descriptive

452
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:13,519
oh okay yeah original bracket for the CPU socket so

453
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:17,760
you can install different coolers on it that's a nice touch wait got a RGB uh

454
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,840
controller here okay but what do you think the diy option cost

455
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oh i would say they're probably taking

456
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:29,200
pretty similar margin to origin so this one was 13.99 usd

457
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it doesn't feel like it though i know cause ryzen they cheaped out on

458
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the right stuff i mean well i shouldn't say that i mean this b450 board might

459
00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:43,039
not last as long as that higher end z490

460
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,200
less expandability but you can upgrade to zen3 that's true

461
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:51,760
you totally can ah what is up with the side panel hey gentle putting the wrong

462
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:56,799
side panel on that explains it well we saw everything today the good

463
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the wood the worse than wood the cardboard

464
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all of them arrived in one piece though so stay tuned for part three where we're

465
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going to be intentionally bunging up the systems in all the same

466
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way and contacting each and every one of these manufacturers tech support to see

467
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who can solve our problem the fastest speaking of tech support you gotta

468
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contact dbrand if you ever need some tech support with your stickers they're

469
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:27,360
probably not gonna help you because they're gonna be like well we make videos that are so simple and ape could

470
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:31,279
do it and they're on our website but uh hey it's worth a shot they've got the

471
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:34,880
limited edition LTT drop running right now with both the face and sticker bomb

472
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options i can't believe they called the good one Anthony tier i guess they

473
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:42,720
really know how to simp for Anthony you can pick anyway you can pick them up

474
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at lttstore.store how many urls did they buy if

475
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:51,840
you guys are looking for something else to watch you can go check out part one which we've already uploaded or you can

476
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go check out the last time we did this a couple of years ago it might put some of

477
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what we're talking about in context here we'd say like oh these guys got a lot

478
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better they got a lot worse most of them didn't really get better so far yeah no