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bam done woo

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welcome to the WAN Show ladies and gentlemen uh if you have any issues

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viewing the stream uh go head over to twitch.tv linustech it seems to be

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working just fine on twitch we have done as much diagnosis as we can

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while the stream was offline and as far as we can tell

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we have no idea yeah it started working on a test

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channel and it looks like it's still a little borked right now

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yeah so that's pretty sweet i don't know um

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yeah so there you go what's the bug now it's just doing the same thing it just

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hitches every once in a while yeah well it was yellow for a while at

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first on the test stream as well so we don't know

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it doesn't say anything Jake hovering over it does nothing it just says okay

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viewers may be experiencing minor issues and then it'll probably turn green again

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it was green while everyone was complaining last time so we are going to

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start over we've got a great show for you guys today

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uh the big news i mean

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yeah johnny ive is leaving apple but it's

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also not the end of the world because he is going to continue to be involved okay

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yeah so apple might be okay i guess

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or i mean well it depends on whether you think apple's okay now

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so for better for work okay you know we'll talk about it more later uh Intel

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Intel's internal memo reveals that they

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are impressed by AMD's progress

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now that is high praise indeed that is for

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it to be in an internal memo that's pretty high praise but again like i said

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before we killed the stream internal memos are basically just blog posts now

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have you read the memo though no it's

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pretty impressed we'll talk we'll talk about it they must have also known this

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was going to hit media and going to hit AMD yeah i guess i i don't understand

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what they could possibly yep okay we'll talk about it more later yep time split

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2.0 spec announced and it's amazing and

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probably i'm assuming still won't work at good distances and a laser can

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identify people based on heartbeat at over 600 feet away which sounds totally

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not creepy at all roll that intro let's roll that intro

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boom those headphones is that causing echo uh i don't know it's pretty loud i

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don't know how to turn the volume down i don't even know where they're plugged into

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where are they

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oh they're pumping way back there

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all right we got this uh show today is brought to you by

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savage jerky madrinas and squarespace

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oh here comes a train that's what we needed yeah that's what we needed more

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more issues today yeah

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perfect so it's friday ladies and gentlemen i will say in the amazing

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video that i don't know if it's on youtube or not yet but the high fresh

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rate gaming video yes that actually hit youtube uh yesterday the train segment

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was hilarious that actually happens far more often

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around here than you guys would probably think i mean it's one of those

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challenging things where the only place that you can find affordable commercial

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real estate uh go figure happens to be next to the train tracks because nobody

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wants to live there because nobody wants trains rolling by all times of the night

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and day when they're trying to sleep or gold out their daily lives yeah it's

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just something that we have to deal with because um

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i don't even i don't even know if there is any industrial

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not near train tracks not near either train tracks or like a super highway

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superhighway heavy trucking road yeah something like that yeah so anywhere

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where you're where you're gonna have a ton of noise pollution that's where you

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stick your commercial zoning at least here in the in the vancouver area so

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um the reason the reason that it was particularly bad in that video and that

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it interrupted us more than it normally would like sometimes we would just roll

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through it like right now the train's going you guys can't really hear it

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was because in order to shoot high refresh rate video

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we had to have the bay doors open to get as much natural sunlight in as we

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possibly could that's why it was a problem interesting

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so every time you double your frame rate you lose an f-stop is that right brennan

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you lose a stop yes yeah okay so when you go from 30 FPS

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which is what we normally shoot at to 60

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you lose a stop when you go to 120 you lose another you go to 240 you lose

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another you go to 480 you lose another then you go again to a thousand you lose

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yet another one so by the time you turn something up to a thousand frames per

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second if you were trying to use the same lights that we're using right now

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at 30 frames per second you're basically looking at a dark frame yeah like

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there's not much left um actually could we could we compare that

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or could we yeah yeah like do we have enough

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apertures on this camera to just change the shutter speed let's change the

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shutter speed how do i do that i don't know how to change your shutter speed

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can i just change the aperture which one's aperture

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this is great oh hey we got the readout on obs so

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everyone gets to see that that's kind of cool nice okay so we're here yep this is uh 30

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frames per second so there's a stop

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so remember this is going from 30 to 60. another stop okay so now we're at 120.

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this is another stop this is what it would look like at 240.

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that's what it would look like at 500 frames per second

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and then this is what that's recording

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so guys to put that in the proper context it looks so bright now uh the

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on-screen displays oh yeah do you mind brandon thank you so to put that in context um

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right now we're shooting with two six-foot soft boxes

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in order to well look natural so uh so yeah so you

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basically need direct sunlight now normally when you're shooting in direct

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sunlight you would actually apply what's called a neutral density filter or nd

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filter directly to the front of the lens in order to block out a ton of the light

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but when it's high refresh rate you're dealing with you want as much light as

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you can possibly get even with as much natural light as we could get

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some of it was still pretty dark especially in the upcoming

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mouse latency testing video that we'll be releasing in the next little bit here

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um

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people are discussing apertures oh like aperture science wait didn't

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Jake turn monitoring off those headphones are still clearly

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yeah they're loud can we just unplug them not a problem yeah i could

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is it around the back oh i'm sorry i thought it was on the front no it's way

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around the back oh okay that's kind of not great oh and it's cable managed oh

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boy like way down

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you know what forget it i'm just gonna like bury them

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put them under your shirts i'm just gonna put them over here okay then

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in here cool there shut up okay sounds good this

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is the problem i run into whenever i'm not the one who sets things up because

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it's like it's not complicated it's just

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you know which uh which audio source is mapped to which

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output but like if i didn't do it i don't know exactly the way that someone else

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configured it yeah and there's also hardware ways to do that with our setups

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it's like your dad setting up your home theater system in the 90s like no one's

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allowed to touch it after it's done

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you know a lot of change anything logitech harmony remote changed my life

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because it's relatively speaking once you get your ir

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blasters positioned that's the main challenge is getting

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your ir blasters in all the right places

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so that it actually consistently activates and deactivates things also i

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had to contact logitech support

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to change i think it was either my tv or

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receiver i had to get them to add the menu option for power on

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and power off instead of a toggle no it

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was my home theater pc that's what it was so the only option by default

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is power toggle and

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as if any if you've ever used a universal remote before you'll know why

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that's a freaking problem yeah because

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as soon as it desynchronizes every time you try to turn the system on

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it turns it off and you end up in this stupid flip-flop

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and you have to get up off your butt which is what you didn't want to do

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play video games or watch tv yeah you have to get them off your butt and go

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manually turn it on and off and uh so so

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get this i complained about this they went oh yeah that's a known issue we

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have to go into your harmony account and add that option for you and i went

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that's not a solution so yes my home theater works perfectly but can i

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recommend a harmony remote to someone else who has a media pc as part of their

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tv setup no i can't because that is a

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phenomenally stupid solution to the

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problem that should just be an option

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because for pretty much everything else in my

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setup so i could decide what the activity was so so for your

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activity you can decide what the commands it sends are okay so my tv has

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power on or power off or toggle i can decide and what that's when you launch

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and when you end the activity you can tell it which ones to do but for

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whatever reason pc didn't have that option at least when i said so as

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someone who never so mad had a harmony remote why do you even have to tell it

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that it's a pc um well when you you have to tell it it's a pc because

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whenever it's takes the ir input which is

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uh watch pc is what i call mine so watch pc it then needs to blast out one after

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the other all the things that go with it so it has to say receiver fire up

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receiver change to this input uh re and

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then it has to go tv fire up tv make

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sure you're on this input then it goes pc wake from sleep

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so it has to know what that code is supposed to be yeah

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okay um so

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it made me so mad because i was like holding my old microsoft media center

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remote i was like okay we have on and we have off so clearly those codes exist

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because some devices don't have it yeah and that's just a problem on the

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device level yeah i was folding a remote and i knew it worked

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so so basically it's a menu if you want to recommend this to any one of the home

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theater pc you have to say buy it like before you even leave the

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store or no you'd have to set up an account you have to get home and part of

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the account creation process is called yeah you're just going to have to get

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now in logitech defense the harmony support team was excellent okay

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cool but it still made me really mad that i had to talk to them to do something that

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i should be able to do within the menu talking to anybody makes me mad so like

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i totally hear you no

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uh why don't we move into like the big news this week yeah um johnny ive

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leaving apple so for those not familiar

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he's the bald guy with the british accent in the commercials

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the unapologetically plastic guy yeah um

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so he's he's their chief designer was

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chief design officer he's leaving the company apple announced it on thursday

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so that's yesterday he's considered and you know i guess it

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depends who you ask i'm sure it's by many people i'm sure there's lots of

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people internally at apple who are like yeah maybe it's time to move on you know

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it depends who you ask i suppose but he's considered one of the most important people at apple responsible

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for the industrial design and the look and feel of all major apple products

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including the ipod iphone and the mac which really raises the question what do

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all the other people there do yeah no i'm serious in the design department

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yeah i'm actually serious right now because they have so many designers

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is it maybe like taking his ideas and

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actually creating them like does he just draft ideas maybe

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and here's another question apple doesn't actually have that many

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products or okay another thing okay to be fair about with apple is they seem to

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over credit individuals really hardcore right so that's why like this individual

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person is responsible for everything that happens a lot with apple so maybe

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he's the chief design officer so maybe he ran those things for all major

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products but that's not the way that it gets

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communicated i completely agree but that has been a thing with apple for a long

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time so either apple basically runs on like eight people

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yeah or there's maybe something else going on

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because this has been true for like the history of apple

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so uh anyway sure people are gonna be on me including ipod iphone and mac so he's

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worked at apple for more than 20 years and he's going to start his own design

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business called love from with capital l capital f which i'm sure

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is very important extremely um apple will be his first client so he says

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while i will not be an employee i will still be very involved i hope for many many years to come

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um he doesn't have an immediate successor

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so yeah interesting

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there's a couple of alan dye and evans

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hanky uh we'll report to jeff williams the

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apple's chief operating officer while i've reported directly to tim cook

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there's a note in here that says ive was first noticed by returning ceo steve

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jobs because of his colorful design concept of the imac

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so was he the like carry it by the handle colorful

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transparent imac guy if i recall correctly yes that makes

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sense in terms of timeline yeah gosh i'm

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old okay

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so anyway that's both a big deal and then also sort of a nothing burger just

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because um he's still gonna work with apple he's

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just hot take i don't think they've had very inspiring design for a while

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well okay so this is where i

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okay so this is where oof

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it gets kind of um

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so i say a lot that i feel like

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apple products are designed for people

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who don't have a lot to do um so if you look

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okay hold on yeah quick pause sure when's that competition happening

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uh oh uh not for a few weeks i think okay yeah so

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what he's referring to is the editing showdown uh jonathan morrison from tld

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is going to be coming up here to compete in an editing showdown with our very own

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uh taren van hemert it was just obs like you guys should have a like

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quick hot takes about the other platform thing

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before the competition like independently so taryn and jonathan will

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make their own comments but i am not there to editorialize oh i will be

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mostly hosting the showdown oh cool

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that's my role we also are working on a panel of celebrity judges okay uh i'm

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not going to comment on their status yet because i don't want there to be any

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like pressure on them or anything but i have certainly reached out for the

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premier side of things we we wanted a panel of four judges uh two that are

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more steeped in final the final cut ecosystem okay and two that are more

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premier folks okay and so i have reached

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out to eber from hardware canucks as well as um nico from the corridor

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digital crew oh cool and i have received receptive responses

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from both but neither of them are confirmed okay so i would love to have

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them on our panel of celebrity judges but it's always complicated coordinating

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people with such busy schedules oh yeah here in the studio

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creators are difficult to wrangle it really and i don't blame them at all i

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totally get it because my schedule is stupid yeah i

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literally have no idea when he's in the country or not okay so back to my back

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to my point about apple products seemingly being designed for people who

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don't have a lot to do um have you ever used apple's calendar app

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no it's utterly worthless genuinely like you you just google calendar is great

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you can't even google calendar okay so yeah that's good so even google calendar

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compared to there's a third-party app called business calendar that's only

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available for Android it's not available on iOS

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and it is full beast mode

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like tiny text you can configure it this way you can

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have like tiny text so you can actually read everything and you can actually

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tell what the hell you're looking at meeting coordination in google calendar

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is fantastic though yes so that's the main thing i like using it for apple's

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calendar app by comparison simply has no way to configure it with

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the same degree of display density okay so it seems to make the assumption that

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you either don't have a lot on your plate or you

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have all the time in the world to drill down and look at things oh you mean like

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okay i thought you meant in terms of one like you wanted to be able to read

00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:38.080
everything of one task but you mean you can read your entire day by making it

00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:42.480
all really strong you can read the entire month

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like all the agenda items for that day from the month view on this business

00:17:44.080 --> 00:17:51.600
calendar app and it's just it's a whole other level like um i i was telling

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Yvonne because she had issues with um she had some issues with Android because

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let's face it there are some issues with Android um she had some issues with

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Android and i said look why don't you try an iphone for a bit and she tried it and she was like this is completely

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unusable because there isn't a replacement she tried every calendar app

00:18:04.080 --> 00:18:10.559
for iOS also really annoying i have to

00:18:07.600 --> 00:18:13.760
carry one now and it won't stop yelling at me about apple pay

00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:17.280
yeah yeah i know right and like everything else it's like hey you should

00:18:15.520 --> 00:18:21.440
use this feature i'm going to pop up 10 million times i don't want this to turn

00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:25.440
into a rant about iOS yeah but if you don't have a sim in it there's no

00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:31.679
way to disable the hey there's no sim installed i know you're an ipod right

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now okay i don't care

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do i pass butter deal with it it cannot handle that it's like no i am iphone

00:18:35.520 --> 00:18:41.840
yeah i am a phone where is your sim card

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i deserve a sim card

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i was born with sim card privilege so yeah

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oh yeah look at this asteroid week says um our asteroid says weak mode in

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business calendar is the best

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uh yeah yeah it pretty much is so so anyway so

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i i end up i end up with this sort of

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observation almost every time i go to use an apple product because the amount

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of sort of manual drilling down of things um

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just annoys me and you know what ipad os looks like it's going to address a lot

00:19:17.600 --> 00:19:23.679
of my complaints about iOS on a large screen device ipad has been very

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interesting lately i apple seems determined to resurrect this

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sort of i won't say failing but i will say

00:19:31.360 --> 00:19:37.840
stumbling business unit they've had a really hard time convincing anyone who

00:19:35.840 --> 00:19:41.679
already has an ipad that they should get a new one

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and that's been my i still the only tablet in my house is an ipad 2.

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because well a lot of the things you're going to do with it doesn't really matter

00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:56.240
you can still do it just be fine put the kids in front of it when i need a break

00:19:52.320 --> 00:19:56.240
that's basically its only job

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you entertain the young ones like and the thing too is that i don't

00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:07.280
even use it for that that often but it's still perfect for that because

00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:11.440
it's an ipad so you leave it for two weeks and the battery's still alive you

00:20:09.280 --> 00:20:14.960
can never do that with an Android tablet yeah

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and so the very occasional time that i use it it's ready to rock and i can go

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take a nap the nap machine the nap machine this

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machine creates the inapp that would actually be an adorable

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commercial they would never do that apple's

00:20:29.919 --> 00:20:35.200
marketing collateral is all about what a creative intellectual person their

00:20:34.080 --> 00:20:39.600
product turns you in no but like you're not about like getting a rest it would be cool if they just named it like a

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million different things and they could even go back to that like put the i there and then rotate the word

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and they could like like for this person it's the inapp and it creates naps for

00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:52.559
them for someone else that's like the i create and they can throw that

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crap in and then for someone else it's it's igame whatever i feel like that

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could be actually kind of energy they would never do it no they would never do it speaking

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of things i thought they would never do Intel internal memo reveals they're

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impressed by AMD's progress yeah this is kind of hilarious this is wild so uh i'm

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gonna try and bring up the actual memo because it's freaking awesome okay yeah

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here it is on tech power up if you guys want to read the whole thing make sure

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you head over there but basically

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here we go we are now entering the latest chapter

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of the tech industry single long-running business rivalry Intel and AMD have been

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competing for many of the same chip customers for more than 50 years oh wait no this is dang it this is tech powerups

00:21:31.919 --> 00:21:38.960
introduction where's uh Intel's thing following AMD's

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blah blah oh here it is why AMD is now a formidable competitor wow was actually

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that alone a sub subheading in the internal memo that alone is huge right

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oh man so they basically go yeah they've had uh two years of greater than 20

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annual revenue growth uh thanks basically to Ryzen and epic and then

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they pretty much attribute it not entirely but a big part of it to the

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strategic refocus on premium high performance products

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now i do have to look at that and go i feel

00:22:09.520 --> 00:22:16.159
like it's a little bit oversimplified and or even misleading yeah i'm sure if

00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:20.559
AMD could have built high performance products five years ago they would have

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they just had nothing yeah like they had straight up

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nothing like Intel right now i mean it's not like it's not like zen

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doesn't scale down to low performance products they can do a quad-core

00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:38.559
processor if they want yeah i mean okay back to a particularly dark time in

00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:44.240
AMD's history they could build a tri-core processor they really wanted to

00:22:41.600 --> 00:22:47.520
yeah they just don't that was awkward they're not stuck

00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:53.200
making just that like it scales down just fine

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the issue was they just had nothing

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um anyway back to back to the art and

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back to the memo though so key AMD competitive threats are from

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high-end products i also think that's kind of that's kind of another funny one

00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:14.480
because what do you mean by high-end products specifically the key

00:23:11.760 --> 00:23:20.159
AMD threat is across your entire product stack all the way from like

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100 to 200 cpus which last i checked is

00:23:20.159 --> 00:23:26.720
pretty low end yeah all the way to

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many core data center products which yes

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is a high-end product um maybe what they're referring to here

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specifically was AMD's focus on apus

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because that was the whoops AMD's focus on apus because that was the

00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:44.159
only thing that they could build that had competitive performance and only

00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:48.480
because their onboard graphics were so much better than Intel's not because the

00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:53.760
CPU cores were competitive maybe that's what they mean by this but like

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i think again that's um

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a little misleading because almost everything Intel's built in the last few years on the consumer side is an apu by

00:23:59.120 --> 00:24:06.320
AMD's definition yeah the height of the apu war was kind of a pretty weird time

00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:09.840
it was a very weird time because everyone wanted to like i think people

00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:14.799
wanted to support AMD so everyone would flex the apu GPU performance yeah and

00:24:13.120 --> 00:24:18.400
then no one would run it that way because it wasn't really good enough for

00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:22.960
almost anything it's a really awkward time ah hi ed what

00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:28.000
can i do for you did you do the videos uh i didn't

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how badly do you need them

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next week we can get that next week cool

00:24:32.159 --> 00:24:38.559
cool thanks ed thank you um okay so let's let's have a

00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:41.520
look at uh some of the other some of the other subheadings here

00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:45.440
so man this like this is like a scary time

00:24:43.840 --> 00:24:50.640
to be Intel like i can see why they're sending out this memo it's like look guys we have to acknowledge this stuff

00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:54.640
AMD has recently been gaining some traction and winning public cloud

00:24:52.159 --> 00:24:59.200
offerings that's a pretty big deal

00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:02.960
yeah um AMD's upcoming next generations encore products codename rome for

00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:09.039
servers and matisse for desktop will intensify our desktop and especially

00:25:05.919 --> 00:25:10.830
server competition

00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:13.520
intensify the forward

00:25:13.520 --> 00:25:19.279
the firepower is likely to be the most intense in

00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:25.279
about a decade which is another way of saying AMD had nothing

00:25:21.679 --> 00:25:27.039
for 10 years yeah and it's true um

00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:31.200
okay i mean they're even acknowledging the

00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:36.159
notebook and the notebooks and business pc competition that's incredible

00:25:35.120 --> 00:25:40.960
um now this is again sort of misleading by

00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:44.559
leveraging tsmc's seven nanometer manufacturing AMD no longer manufactures

00:25:43.360 --> 00:25:49.360
its own chips they got to get that in there AMD can drive higher

00:25:47.520 --> 00:25:54.240
and higher performance um now they they acknowledge it later on

00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:58.799
in the memo but that's not really the main reason that AMD is able to drive

00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:02.400
higher core counts and higher performance

00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:08.400
yes global foundries did stumble we know this

00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:11.039
but um AMD wasn't on tsmc's seven

00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:17.120
nanometer node for ryzen gen1 and ryzen gen 1 was a return to

00:26:14.320 --> 00:26:21.440
competition um really it just has more to do with AMD's modular approach to

00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:24.559
their core design that is a big part of the reason that AMD can drive higher

00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:29.919
core counts and AMD's been driving higher core counts than Intel for a couple of years now

00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:34.559
the big thing that's happening now is the ipc improvements with zen 2 that are

00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:38.880
making these many core desktop processors now

00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:44.480
competitive even in single threaded tasks allegedly this is all still based

00:26:41.679 --> 00:26:48.320
on AMD data and or leaks what can i do for you oh yes uh here's a prompt to

00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:51.760
remote thank you dennis so one thing that i think is kind of going on in

00:26:49.840 --> 00:26:57.039
parallel to this is Intel's community communication and

00:26:54.799 --> 00:27:01.360
marketing whatever you want to call it not necessarily pr to

00:26:59.840 --> 00:27:05.120
the masses because it seemed to be pretty on top of at the very least

00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:07.919
communicating with enterprise level stuff right um but enterprise level

00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:14.400
stuff other than trust in terms of it will

00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:16.400
work doesn't really care that much no

00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:20.720
they'll use because a lot of these so the thing that you guys got to

00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:23.440
understand is for a consumer

00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:26.159
they buy something with the expectation that it has already been validated for

00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:30.799
them if you're designing a super computer

00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:35.360
like if we were to go to the very very high end of the enterprise space if

00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:39.600
you're designing a super computer you are

00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.960
in some ways expecting the hardware to

00:27:39.600 --> 00:27:46.559
have problems and you are expecting that you are that

00:27:43.679 --> 00:27:50.640
you are engineering a solution around them as part of your design process

00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:54.960
that's the reason why you'll see the latest supercomputer

00:27:52.559 --> 00:28:00.399
spinning up when there's literally a generation newer hardware available to

00:27:57.919 --> 00:28:04.480
consumers or to the smb market or whatever the case may be because that

00:28:02.159 --> 00:28:09.360
design process happened you know 18 to 24 months ago um so yes they get early

00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:13.600
access to the hardware so that they can work on this design but there's there's

00:28:11.840 --> 00:28:16.480
only like there's only so much you can do like the silicon is just not finished

00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:21.120
yet yeah but i think i think

00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:24.480
i noticed something so i i went to a lot of conventions i would go to pax's like

00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:31.200
crazy and all this kind of stuff and Intel started doing something where they pulled out of conventions Intel was in

00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:34.640
conventions yeah for a very very long they were huge at packs up until like a

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:39.360
couple years ago i think yeah and until it was like at the start of pax and

00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:43.440
until was a big deal there and they held a big deal position for a very long time

00:28:41.520 --> 00:28:47.039
and their booth kind of shrinked and eventually it became a little bit less

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:50.559
experiential and check out our crazy products and it became

00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:53.200
look at our partners products and stuff like that but it was still there it was

00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:56.799
still really interesting it still brought actually a lot of people in

00:28:55.440 --> 00:29:01.840
compared to many booths on the floor that were hardware based they were very active i know like Corsair was really

00:28:59.760 --> 00:29:06.480
active and stuff too but they were very active um and then and AMD didn't really

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:11.120
exist AMD was not what are you doing i'm

00:29:08.320 --> 00:29:14.559
spamming twitch.tv linustech in the chat because people are complaining about the

00:29:12.320 --> 00:29:18.799
leg we don't know what the issue is but it's something to do with youtube um

00:29:17.679 --> 00:29:23.039
but then again it's happening on Floatplane too yeah so for whatever

00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:26.480
reason our stream is perfect on twitch just go over the actually most confusing

00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:30.159
part is that it is working on twitch but yeah that's cool so here we go uh but

00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:34.799
yeah so right around when Intel who had this

00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:38.720
like literally complete market share although there's only two of them for

00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:43.679
processors showing up at conventions they disappear AMD shows up and AMD show

00:29:42.159 --> 00:29:48.640
that was literally the most perfect timing for AMD and the worst timing for

00:29:45.919 --> 00:29:53.039
Intel ever because Intel loses this like and i know roi on conventions

00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:55.760
is like ridiculous and terrible and hard to track but

00:29:54.399 --> 00:30:01.039
don't talk too much about that though we have our own convention now yeah but

00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:05.039
to tie into that convention the sentiment you get from those people

00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.919
yep and these are influenced really strong and then they're going to go talk

00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:12.960
to their friends and they're gonna talk on forums they're gonna do everything else so it spreads out like crazy and

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:17.760
when you can have that interaction as a hardware company in person which you

00:30:15.120 --> 00:30:20.799
almost never have it's super valuable and that doesn't mean that Intel not

00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:26.080
showing up all of a sudden generates negative sentiment like it's not that

00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:29.200
simple but Intel loses their opportunity

00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:30.880
to say you know hey we're good too right

00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:36.159
around the time that AMD is coming in banging this we're awesome right now

00:30:33.360 --> 00:30:40.640
drum we're super awesome check it out and like AMD shows up with crazy booths

00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:44.720
now that are really interesting they're doing giveaways they have like their

00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.760
booths are banging and they show up out of nowhere

00:30:46.080 --> 00:30:50.960
it's it's just really it's and that seems to be happening not just at the

00:30:49.760 --> 00:30:56.799
convention level that's somewhere where it's extremely tangible you can see it

00:30:53.600 --> 00:30:58.159
happen Intel disappeared AMD showed up

00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:03.520
and they completely took over the convention space i've been asked as a

00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:07.520
long-time Intel user by uh i forgot whether it was over twitter on our forum

00:31:05.120 --> 00:31:10.720
or something i but i've been asked would you consider an AMD chip for your next

00:31:09.760 --> 00:31:15.600
rig and i was like yeah of course

00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:21.120
like the only reason that i'm not running AMD now is that it isn't the

00:31:18.159 --> 00:31:24.799
highest performance solution right now because the thing is and i don't want

00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:28.720
like this is not this is not a flex thing this is not like

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:34.559
trying to rub it in or anything like that but i am not

00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:36.000
budget constrained for my computer so i

00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.960
have i've had a lot of people ask me over the last couple of years

00:31:37.679 --> 00:31:43.679
well AMD is competitive why are you still running Intel because it's faster

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:51.679
it might not be the best option if you're building different price to your computers exactly so depending on what

00:31:49.600 --> 00:31:56.480
kind of a price point you're targeting yeah AMD might make a ton of sense and

00:31:53.360 --> 00:31:58.720
i've recommended AMD plenty but no i

00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:02.720
haven't been using it because why would i well that looks like it

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.760
might change so depending on how our evaluation of ryzen

00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:13.440
third gen goes yeah it's very possible like people

00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:18.159
people treat me like i've never had an AMD computer you know what just for fun

00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.679
i'm going to try and list out all the processors i've ever run oh i can't

00:32:20.159 --> 00:32:24.720
remember this every time you do this i'm like i have no idea what i had it's

00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:30.399
gonna be really hard okay so the first CPU i ever owned was a pentium 90. like

00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:36.559
this was my personal tower i inherited it from my uncle it was a pentium 90 in

00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:38.880
like the early 2000s so it was like

00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:45.519
pretty slow yeah okay so then the first rig i ever built for myself

00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:48.720
athlon xp 2500 plus heck yeah bought me

00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:50.480
that 2500 plus baby then i got a 2500

00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:53.919
plus mobile because it overclocked a little better overclocked that thing to

00:32:52.080 --> 00:33:00.080
3200 plus but guys AMD fans speaking from the heart

00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:04.559
for heart to heart here okay we were deluding ourselves if we thought that a

00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:08.960
3200 plus was actually equivalent to a 3.2 gigahertz northwood c okay it was

00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:13.760
not that was not a thing that was real two percent of the audience understand

00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:17.200
what's going on next CPU was um

00:33:13.760 --> 00:33:19.159
i believe it was a claw hammer

00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:25.600
i want to say it was a 3200 plus it was the one with less cash

00:33:23.120 --> 00:33:31.279
um was it or was it north something shoot

00:33:28.320 --> 00:33:34.000
okay so no no not north korea get get go on get out of here

00:33:36.080 --> 00:33:44.320
okay so sledgehammer was fx only and then uh clawhammer was the single

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:48.720
core whatever it was a socket 754 single core athlon 64. it was a huge upgrade

00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:53.279
and the reason that i went to that was because at the time games were

00:33:51.120 --> 00:33:56.640
predominant basically exclusively single threaded so hyper threading while it was

00:33:55.360 --> 00:34:00.640
nice for your overall system responsiveness did not make a difference

00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:04.880
for games and games was 90 plus percent of what i did on my rig so i picked up

00:34:02.320 --> 00:34:10.800
an athlon 64 single core okay my next upgrade was to sock at 93d 939 and the

00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:15.280
reason that i had to go from 754 to 939 is super pissed off like that's another

00:34:12.720 --> 00:34:19.520
thing AMD fans are so quick to appointed Intel for retiring their you know their

00:34:17.839 --> 00:34:23.200
motherboard chipsets so frequently and making you buy a new

00:34:21.520 --> 00:34:28.079
motherboard it's like don't don't imagine for a second that AMD's hands

00:34:25.919 --> 00:34:32.240
are clean and all of this either socket 754 lasted for like 10 months or

00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:36.480
something stupid like that i can't remember what it was and 940 on the

00:34:34.240 --> 00:34:40.800
desktop was even worse so i went to socket 939 and picked

00:34:39.040 --> 00:34:45.280
myself up this was the most expensive CPU i ever bought for myself it was a

00:34:42.720 --> 00:34:50.079
4400 plus and the reason i went for that was because it was the first consumer

00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:53.200
dual core processor not counting like i don't even know was titanium multi-core

00:34:51.839 --> 00:34:57.920
i don't know it doesn't matter the point was it was the first dual core processor

00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:02.800
that you could buy for the desktop it was the full one meg cache was it one

00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:08.160
meg per core or one meg can't remember um compared to the 4200 plus which had

00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:12.720
less cash so that meant that with overclocking you could get full 4800

00:35:10.720 --> 00:35:17.200
plus performance which was other than the fx line which was basically dumb

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.920
because it was just an overclocked the other thing

00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:24.880
so other than the fx line it was the fastest consumer chip you could get

00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:29.760
so from my 4800 plus what did i go to

00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:32.960
i got an optron 165. are you noticing a pattern here

00:35:31.040 --> 00:35:37.200
noticing a pattern a lot of AMD's not AMD isn't that funny most of my growth

00:35:35.359 --> 00:35:40.720
was on AMD chips as well so i got an optron 165 and the reason for that was

00:35:39.359 --> 00:35:48.000
it overclocked slightly better that was around the same time i picked up asrock's very unique uh agp and pci

00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:51.599
express board because i had an agb card at the time and i wanted to move to pci

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:56.160
express later cool it was a great overclocking board shockingly other than

00:35:53.760 --> 00:36:00.079
the fact that you couldn't run one t on your memory timings no matter what you

00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:02.079
did i tried everything all right

00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:07.119
from there i went to the e6600

00:36:04.720 --> 00:36:11.599
now why would i do that well because conroe was a performance revolution it

00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:16.800
was a complete game changer it absolutely curb stomped the aging athlon 64. and

00:36:15.680 --> 00:36:22.880
AMD didn't catch up so from there i went to

00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:24.720
q6600 from there i went to q

00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:31.040
9650 very temporarily i borrowed that one

00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:33.040
from work um i think it was a qx 9650

00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:37.359
excuse me borrowed that one from work deleted that i believe i was the first

00:36:34.720 --> 00:36:43.760
person to ever delete a qx 96. a work thing don't worry about it oh um

00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:49.040
interesting from there i picked up a core i7 920 man that was a beast of a

00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:51.599
chip got myself uh this was right around the time that kimonda went out of

00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:56.880
business so kimono yeah remember

00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:59.200
yeah so their aneon consumer lineup of memory i don't even know if this is

00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:05.359
interesting to people they might not even be watching i don't care it doesn't matter so uh their aeneion brand they

00:37:03.359 --> 00:37:11.280
had these one gig dimms that they were liquidating for i think our cost

00:37:08.560 --> 00:37:14.960
was 20 bucks a pop and at the time

00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:20.320
that was nuts it was wild so ncix bought everything

00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:24.000
that we could take and internally we were buying them at cost so it was sick

00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.839
so i bought some i still have some of that a neon memory okay hold on one

00:37:26.240 --> 00:37:33.520
quick second here just out of interest in that era upgrading your RAM was like

00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.359
a huge deal it happened a lot yes and no

00:37:33.520 --> 00:37:39.680
no we were a little bit after that RAM was not affecting gaming performance

00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:44.720
anymore especially because on the 1366 platform it was um

00:37:42.160 --> 00:37:49.200
okay triple channel memory so you had a little bit before six memory slots so

00:37:47.040 --> 00:37:52.400
when i had uh were they two gig dimms i think they were two gigs for 20 bucks

00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:58.000
they were they were two gig games for 20 bucks and you could get the one gig ones for 10. i just remember when when when

00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:02.160
we first started playing like everquest i never played ever everybody had to go

00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:05.760
get more RAM i had like ever wow everybody that i knew i had to like go

00:38:04.160 --> 00:38:10.000
get more RAM in order to play everquest but everything else worked i had a job and a girlfriend

00:38:08.560 --> 00:38:15.599
i did not i was younger though uh anyway so sorry so okay so i went to

00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:20.800
a 920 then i think at some point i moved to

00:38:18.720 --> 00:38:24.240
like uh like an extreme edition on that platform that i borrowed from work my

00:38:22.720 --> 00:38:27.920
extreme that's the only reason why i actually switched to Intel originally

00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:32.880
was because i got a retail edge extreme edition and i was like this deal is way too good

00:38:31.359 --> 00:38:38.640
so of course the price performance here is wild yeah so uh retail edge speaking

00:38:35.839 --> 00:38:41.680
of retail edge i believe i went 3 000 series through retail edge and then that

00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:46.079
was right around the time that i became a product reviewer and i started more

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:50.480
legitimately getting chips that i could use in my personal rig from work yeah um

00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:53.599
so i've been running Intel since then and actually my personal rig even though

00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:58.320
i upgraded it i did publish a video about that recently i ended up downgrading it again so i'm still

00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:02.560
running a 5960x so i am looking for an upgrade

00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:06.560
i need Thunderbolt um which might be a problem or maybe i

00:39:05.200 --> 00:39:10.560
could just run discrete cables i don't know i'll figure it out usb 3 extension

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cables are a bad time from my experience though yes um nick is standing here very

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patiently what can i do for you nick what's up dude hey you did a really awesome shout out for the merch and then

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you guys are starting ahead of the game because most conventions don't rope off

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get stolen and then they have to rope it up remember that the by right is not ltx

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admin is here and here this is the stream studio i think they're planning to bring some streamers out or something

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yeah this is the vip special guest byoc so that's where you'll set up cool

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Floatplane people main stage meet and greet with creators of which we have

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like two dozen coming now i love how the flow where all the floating people are

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is gonna be right next to meet and greet for creators so i can just try to like poach people as they finish their meet

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and greets oh yeah oh yeah very cool we're doing uh

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there will be prizes nice we have so much prizing

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NVIDIA sent over a hundred pounds of graphics i was gonna say wasn't it like

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uh you did it based on weight or something yeah yeah

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like rtx 2080 ti's 2070s uh 2060s that's

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awesome three pallets zotac is sending three

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pallets of pricing have they gone mad son what

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that's amazing what are they even drunking

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it kind of makes sense okay i'm going to give you another pax history thing sorry

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early day early days of pax it was much more hardware based right i remember one

00:45:02.240 --> 00:45:06.800
year NVIDIA was an entire wall in the

00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:11.440
singular convention center that there was a singular convention hall that

00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:14.880
there was uh and like many many many more hardware booths and back then we

00:45:13.200 --> 00:45:18.880
would come back from conventions with like bags of swag and we would often

00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:23.440
like technically make more off of swag than

00:45:21.839 --> 00:45:28.240
we spent on the tickets and the trip in general which was like wild but that

00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:32.560
happened many times and now you're lucky if you get like a few t-shirts because

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it's all gaming companies i'm not that surprised that this is going on because

00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:39.680
it's a hardware based convention so the hardware guys are just like yeah i take

00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:44.000
a bunch of stuff so which is so cool we have 3000 people coming each day

00:45:42.560 --> 00:45:48.720
assuming that we sell the rest of the tickets and like saturday we'll be 3000

00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.720
people yeah so i'm not saying everyone's gonna get like a full outfit and a

00:45:50.319 --> 00:45:57.920
gaming phone oh yeah no but we are doing our best to source as much spread

00:45:55.359 --> 00:46:02.480
give away swag as we can and really we want to encourage

00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:04.240
participation yeah if people participate

00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:08.000
they will walk away with something if people don't participate it's going

00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:11.119
to be a lot tougher yeah that's kind of the way that i want it to be i want lts

00:46:09.839 --> 00:46:15.599
that's how it should be highly interactive yeah absolutely that totally

00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:19.119
makes sense uh so back to the layout uh razer's gonna be there

00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:22.960
uh this is gonna be fun there's an escape vr there's actually a lot of vr

00:46:21.200 --> 00:46:25.760
experience so is the skate vr like a room that you have to move through or

00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:30.640
something i don't know exactly how it works but it's a third-party company that like does these cool yeah so it

00:46:29.359 --> 00:46:34.800
should be pretty cool it's an escape room in a vr environment it's an escape

00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:40.480
trusting and then people actually they can't hear you because you're off mic

00:46:37.520 --> 00:46:43.599
it's an escape room in a vr environment there's trusting yeah don't worry it's

00:46:42.240 --> 00:46:48.319
fine there's also like regular vr gaming

00:46:46.640 --> 00:46:52.400
um and then there's vr which isn't really vr because it's

00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:55.200
more just reality but a camera uh rc cars

00:46:53.520 --> 00:46:59.599
um there's remote remote cars board game

00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:02.160
lounge uh food and beverage memex is going to be there MSI is going to be

00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:06.640
there and that excuse me is going to be there bs mods is going to be there

00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:10.000
inward and stuff cool so this year there's actually going to be a bunch of

00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.880
different like hardware brands there physically and it's going to be hardcore

00:47:11.359 --> 00:47:16.640
too like CPU deleting we're going to have a booth for that again so uh roman

00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:20.160
der bauer sent over a bunch of his delitting tools he's actually going to

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:25.599
be there by the way that's cool GPU repasting that's happening

00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:30.319
dreamhacks indie playground case toss is back and you get to toss an old uh mac

00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:33.599
pro cheese crater kind of really sad Gigabyte's gonna be there the retro

00:47:31.839 --> 00:47:37.119
gaming lounge and vintage pc area are gonna be super cool

00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:41.040
um dreamhack indie playground that's actually i love the indie parts of these

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kind of shows so it's going to be sick don't miss it um

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yeah yeah it's going to be sick don't miss it

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because i don't know why not sure so we're so we're like eating this pizza we

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both eat about half of our pizza and um

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well he ate his half a lot faster than me anyway we both got half a pizza left we're

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walking around after we decided to like walk back to the hotel because like we're just chilling it's middle of the

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night we're all jet-lagged as hell

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and he just like throws away his box and i'm like dude

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like why'd you just throw away food like that sucks and he's like no i ate it i was

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00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:02.480
with code Linus for the next 72 hours so go go go go go and if you have any

00:51:00.640 --> 00:51:05.920
questions about the various flavors of cold brew or their micro roast [ __ ]

00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:11.920
from madrinas is in the chat and ready to answer your

00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:11.920
questions through direct messages

00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:19.359
all right we've got a couple more topics that i think we really wanted to talk about today um displayport 2.0 i hate

00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:23.280
displayport yep i love it when it works

00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:27.040
yep i hate it when it doesn't work yep and it just it seems to not work for me

00:51:25.200 --> 00:51:31.040
at the most inopportune times if you have a monitor basically exactly next to

00:51:29.839 --> 00:51:35.760
your computer fantastic if you have to do anything funky with it

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:39.599
ever it's horrible sometimes it doesn't even hot plug

00:51:37.839 --> 00:51:44.240
yeah it's wild hopefully they fix that stuff in the new

00:51:42.160 --> 00:51:48.240
version i don't know how much i trust that but

00:51:45.839 --> 00:51:53.680
you know hopefully it's crazy fast 80 gigabit per second uh of raw bandwidth

00:51:51.200 --> 00:52:00.160
effective bandwidth of 77.37 which is pretty nuts 8k 60 hertz HDR

00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:07.200
uh 8k at 60 hertz greater greater than eight greater than 8k 60hz sdr 4k at 144

00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:09.119
hertz HDR wow and two times 5k so dual

00:52:07.200 --> 00:52:13.680
monitor if you wanted to daisy chain yeah okay at 60 hertz so

00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:19.040
basically this is the biggest leap forward in displayport bandwidth ever so

00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:24.079
1 and 1.1 were 8.6 gigabit per second so you could

00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:28.240
do 1440p at 60hz which was a big deal at the time yeah 1.2 doubled that more a

00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:33.119
little more than doubled that so you could do 4k 60 hertz that was a big deal

00:52:31.040 --> 00:52:36.640
because prior to that to run 4k you had to do two cables dual cable which was

00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.520
super styling on your display which was really cheesy it was bad too it's not

00:52:38.160 --> 00:52:44.960
good um 1.3 and 1.4 could do up to

00:52:42.680 --> 00:52:51.760
25.92 so that was actually a pretty small leap forward 4k 120 hertz or 8k at

00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:53.440
60 hertz with dsc which is if i recall

00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:57.280
correctly that acronym is the compression or the lossless compression

00:52:56.240 --> 00:53:03.760
um and then finally dp 2.0 with i love this i love

00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:08.000
this the like the acronym for the code name for it whatever we want to call it

00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:13.280
is uhbr which to me sounds like uber uber uber 20.

00:53:10.520 --> 00:53:16.480
77.37 gigabit per second so this is a tripling

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in speed huge nut absolutely huge

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so they've got not just one but a few different bit rate modes the fastest

00:53:23.040 --> 00:53:28.480
mode in displayport 2.0 will top out at 80 gigabits per second of raw bandwidth

00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:31.680
to about two and a half times that of 1.31.4

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it also introduces a more efficient coding scheme resulting in less coding

00:53:33.839 --> 00:53:39.760
overhead so as a result the effective bandwidth of the new standard will peak

00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:43.599
at 77.4 so that's three times uh the physical characteristics the port itself

00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:47.680
is staying yes that's good uh both the port that we

00:53:45.520 --> 00:53:52.559
have now and the usbc connector via the dp alt mode both the official ports for

00:53:50.240 --> 00:53:56.400
the new displayport 2.0 standard and the number of pins and resulting high speed

00:53:54.319 --> 00:53:59.440
data lanes is remaining unchanged so it will continue to operate over four

00:53:58.240 --> 00:54:03.920
lanes it also retains the packet-based approach to communication which means

00:54:02.319 --> 00:54:07.440
that image data continues to be sent as packets over a fixed bandwidth link as

00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:11.680
opposed to pixel-centric pixel clock approaches and so what has changed is

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that the rest of the physical layer has been almost entirely replaced so

00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:19.440
Thunderbolt 3 oh with Thunderbolt 3

00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:24.319
which is now a royalty-free standard and is going to be called usb 4 i guess

00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:29.200
except not quite because i think Thunderbolt branding Intel is still

00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:31.760
going to be using as sort of like their

00:54:29.200 --> 00:54:38.319
best-in-class implementation of the usb4 standard that is um sort of

00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:40.400
that has a lot of optional components um

00:54:38.319 --> 00:54:43.920
so Thunderbolt 3 is truly bi-directional full duplex link two lanes allocated for

00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:48.000
each direction um oh and displayport is focused on sending

00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:52.480
large volumes of data in just one direction so displayport 2.0 reverses

00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:54.880
the two inbound lanes to outbound cool

00:54:53.440 --> 00:55:00.160
that's actually that makes a lot of sense i'm stoked as long as it actually works yeah yeah yeah

00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:04.400
and i guess actually that's kind of oh yeah we can talk about the laser one

00:55:01.680 --> 00:55:09.040
sure yeah so uh it's a new device developed by the pentagon

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after the u.s special forces requested it basically everyone has a cardiac

00:55:11.359 --> 00:55:18.160
signature and they can read that cardiac signature with an infrared laser apparently it

00:55:15.839 --> 00:55:24.720
works through typical clothing like a shirt or a jacket which surprised me wow

00:55:21.680 --> 00:55:26.880
um but apparently not a thicker like

00:55:24.720 --> 00:55:30.880
winter coat but still a jacket which blows my mind

00:55:29.359 --> 00:55:36.000
and i'm assuming they're going to have i'm kind of wondering if they're including like windbreakers as a jacket

00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:42.240
hard to say i don't know what if it's to do with thickness or to do with layers

00:55:40.240 --> 00:55:47.119
layers might be a problem too i'm not sure uh but but yeah apparently cardiac

00:55:45.680 --> 00:55:52.240
signatures are already in use for security identification this has happened before uh canadian company

00:55:50.720 --> 00:55:56.559
company that i'm going to butcher the name of but i think it's niamey has

00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.079
developed a wrist worn pulse sensor as an alternative uh to fingerprint

00:55:58.720 --> 00:56:04.240
identification a little a little crazy uh apparently it

00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:09.119
can take a little while for it to kind of lock on but it does work at a fairly

00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:13.520
far distance uh so it's only really effective if the subject is sitting or

00:56:11.359 --> 00:56:19.520
standing not really like moving around and stuff got it yeah so 200 meters it

00:56:16.640 --> 00:56:25.200
works from pretty wild that's crazy pretty wild

00:56:21.839 --> 00:56:27.920
um so one glaring limitation is the need

00:56:25.200 --> 00:56:31.920
for a database of cardiac signatures but even without this the system has its

00:56:29.680 --> 00:56:36.160
uses but you could probably pretty easily get that

00:56:33.680 --> 00:56:38.480
especially at like passport stations where people have to stand there for a

00:56:37.520 --> 00:56:42.960
while you can just install it and grab it yeah

00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:46.640
yeah because you're you're handing them a passport you're giving them your name

00:56:45.200 --> 00:56:50.319
and all your information so yeah match that up and create a national database

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:53.760
really fast it's called jetson um in practice it's likely to be used

00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:58.640
alongside facial recognition or other identification methods but

00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:01.839
in the long term the developers believe in addition to identification it could

00:57:00.319 --> 00:57:05.680
be used to scan for arrhythmias and other conditions remotely

00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:10.079
and hospitals could monitor the condition of patients without having to wire them up to machines which i guess

00:57:08.319 --> 00:57:13.599
is cool but it's just yet another way that big

00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:17.839
brother will be watching and there's no real preventing it at this point

00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:21.119
yeah this one's kind of hard to screw with the future is now

00:57:20.240 --> 00:57:26.400
yeah just start wearing like a plate over your chest i was thinking about but it's

00:57:24.799 --> 00:57:29.520
not just that because i think it can see it through your skin in general yeah i

00:57:28.240 --> 00:57:36.160
guess they don't even have a cardiac signature in like your ARM right yeah

00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:39.680
so you'd have to have clothes clothes only solution lead clothing you'd have

00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:43.280
to have clothing that like ripples intentionally

00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:48.720
like actively ripples you'd have to have active clothing active

00:57:45.359 --> 00:57:48.720
active ir camouflage

00:57:48.799 --> 00:57:54.799
all right then so thanks for watching the lan show you guys see you again next week same bad time the same bad channel

00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:59.739
goodbye see you later

00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:06.359
it's a vibrating chainmail

00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:18.799
super chats hello happy birthday preston

00:58:16.799 --> 00:58:22.559
happy birthday wyatt uh lazy ak-47 says saw you in a pulse

00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:26.960
weight commercial any other commercials you're in or will be in no not at this

00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:30.400
time but it is a service that Linus media group does offer like commercial

00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:33.359
production it's not something that we publicize a

00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:38.640
ton um so the only reason we ended up doing that with pulse way was just because

00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:42.160
like i don't know we just kind of ended up

00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:45.200
chatting about it like it wasn't um yeah i don't even know if it's on our website

00:58:43.680 --> 00:58:51.200
but yes it is something that we do but no there's nothing really planned right now

00:58:47.680 --> 00:58:53.359
bob says cut cake or cupcakes

00:58:51.200 --> 00:58:59.920
you know i'm not a cake guy or a cupcake neither give me a good muffin oh

00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:02.640
yeah okay on this topic because i wonder for the same about this too chocolate

00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:06.319
chip cookie oatmeal raisin cookie

00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:11.520
oatmeal chocolate chip whoa i don't think i've had that

00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:14.880
it's amazing oatmeal is just better in my opinion

00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:20.079
okay sorry we can keep going yeah i'm not that into chocolate chip cookies because they're usually

00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:23.920
crappy cookies yeah and they just try to get by on the chocolate yeah it doesn't

00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:27.200
work that way yeah um

00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:30.160
ilya Linus will you ever tell us about that colorful dragon tattoo you had

00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:35.839
about a half year ago yeah i was just messing with you guys it's just a spray-on thing

00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:38.880
oh that people thought that was real a lot of people did wow well i kept

00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:44.720
reapplying it so it looked fresh for like quite a long time oh yeah interesting i was just

00:59:42.640 --> 00:59:47.839
messing with people yeah um video suggestion a collab with your

00:59:46.319 --> 00:59:52.400
bower since he's coming to ltx anyway the problem is that everyone in their

00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:57.040
dog is coming to ltx and they're coming for ltx and i'm gonna be like scrambling

00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:01.040
in the lead up to ltx and then recovering from ltx so unless they're

00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:05.680
like hanging around for a week that's probably not going to be feasible

01:00:04.160 --> 01:00:11.359
other side guy would you agree that car culture and building custom cars and modding is similar to the pc space yes

01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:15.760
oh yeah definitely hey Linus decided to blow five bucks just to see you make a

01:00:12.799 --> 01:00:17.760
funny face all right

01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:21.599
gap to granny um

01:00:22.319 --> 01:00:28.400
brian says Linus if you phase yourself out i'm gonna kermit

01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:31.599
what is what is kermit i don't know

01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:38.799
uh david says lion's been a huge fan of your channel for years taught me a lot keep it the good work thank you

01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:43.359
uh john says andy will probably move to four threads per core before Intel just

01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:48.079
to fully nut kick them uh yeah

01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:54.319
they probably will oh what did i click i don't know oh no

01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:56.960
the down arrow maybe oh crud uh teemo i

01:00:54.319 --> 01:01:02.079
did i got my new LTT hat and hoodie with home door delivery

01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:07.280
post girl did apparently say that so you didn't need to go to the post office

01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:09.280
man canada post rocks in finland

01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:12.960
great feedback glad to hear

01:01:11.359 --> 01:01:18.480
shout out to my wife claire who is probably listening to this tomorrow it

01:01:15.200 --> 01:01:19.839
says seal team rix hey cool um

01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:25.280
midland says good evening Linus would you ever consider building your own studio and what would you need in your

01:01:22.720 --> 01:01:29.599
dream studio what a tremendous question so if i were to build my own studio

01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:33.440
first i would start with a ground floor with

01:01:31.680 --> 01:01:36.640
like a library for kind of like a quiet place to sit

01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:41.040
an editing den for all the editors to sit and work together and collaborate

01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:45.200
like a camera area where we can build up our rigs and tear them down and store

01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:48.319
them safely and like maybe a bathroom upstairs from that

01:01:46.720 --> 01:01:51.440
i put a board room i'd put my office

01:01:49.839 --> 01:01:54.880
i'd put an office for my wife who does all the accounting so she needs privacy

01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:58.559
i'd put another small office just in case we needed it in the future maybe a

01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:02.559
nice open space so that we could put cubicles or something like that nice

01:02:00.240 --> 01:02:07.520
nice another bathroom probably yeah then i'd expand it okay okay so i'd put nick

01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:10.880
in my wife's office i'd put her in mine and then i'd move over to the other side

01:02:08.799 --> 01:02:14.799
where there would be three offices um luke had one of them at one point but

01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:19.200
we would have kicked him out by then um we'd leave one of them open for like

01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:21.839
meetings yeah i'd take one of them then we'd have like an open space for

01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:25.920
the writers another bathroom the more people you add the more people need to pee yeah

01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:31.839
i'd move the camera people out into the warehouse at that point i'd probably start with three warehouse units and i'd

01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:36.480
do like a green screen like an LTT set like a workshop a TechLinked set and

01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:39.839
then like some storage area maybe maybe a little nook for the WAN Show then i'd

01:02:38.319 --> 01:02:43.200
probably get a couple more units i'd add like an employee lounge and some more

01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:47.040
storage and then maybe like a hardcore workshop with like modding stuff sweet

01:02:45.200 --> 01:02:53.599
yeah that's probably what i do smart considerate concise that's what i do

01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:57.440
um i was being facetious that's our studio

01:02:55.599 --> 01:03:04.079
yeah what did he mean they probably didn't know that we have a studio oh i'm just teasing

01:03:01.359 --> 01:03:08.640
we have a studio yeah we got our studio about four years ago yeah um

01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:11.920
well i could understand why people don't know because we intentionally changed

01:03:10.799 --> 01:03:15.920
the sets to look like a house

01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:20.480
so anyone who started watching in the last year or two might not realize that the kitchen that

01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:26.079
we shoot in all the time is not a real kitchen that was the whole idea so weird we

01:03:23.839 --> 01:03:29.359
wanted the videos to look less like a set in a studio and more like we just

01:03:28.160 --> 01:03:35.440
shoot out of a house like a normal youtuber but you do videos out in the warehouse sometimes sometimes not that

01:03:32.799 --> 01:03:39.680
often anymore that often yeah weird that makes sense

01:03:38.160 --> 01:03:42.880
nicola i'm going to an english course in vancouver but i'm missing ltx

01:03:41.680 --> 01:03:48.079
oh rude what could i do that's tech related while visiting honestly not much

01:03:50.319 --> 01:03:55.680
ooh readeth says are you going to do something ridiculous and cool with the

01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:58.960
corning option go to freebie cable oh yeah go to free geek do that that's a

01:03:57.520 --> 01:04:03.039
good idea thank you um yes i'd love to they're supposed to

01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:06.720
send me one but they haven't yet uh joshua says there has been a way to

01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:09.680
add special ir commands to the power sequence on harmony for many years i

01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:12.799
think logitech didn't want to blame the customer uh yeah so the problem was that

01:04:11.680 --> 01:04:16.880
i couldn't so you have to pick from a menu

01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:22.000
yeah we went over all that um

01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:28.559
other side guy imo evs haven't particularly taken off because the

01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:32.480
futuristic design employed makes them look tacky

01:04:30.160 --> 01:04:36.319
um yeah that's a fair point that's only part of the problem though yeah uphoric

01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:41.359
says bitcoin is on the rise again do you have anything in the works for a mining

01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:43.280
update nope i'm out

01:04:41.359 --> 01:04:46.880
ah Jake likes text says this is going toward a new stream pc that's not the

01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:51.680
stream pc is not the problem also see you at ltx okay see you there

01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:56.160
johnny says oh gee you better make ltx just as big or bigger next year my boss

01:04:54.160 --> 01:05:00.559
told me he will be pay next year due to he needs me at

01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:05.680
work in the holidays i had set aside for going so you better we will try i

01:05:03.200 --> 01:05:09.839
honestly can't promise that like we're gonna have two dozen creators

01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:13.839
there again because that is costing me a pretty penny the show itself could

01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:17.599
expand though yes and then maybe

01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:21.359
certain creators will just want to go anyways

01:05:19.359 --> 01:05:23.839
ryan says do you still ride your sv650 yes

01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:32.880
other side guy what's your thoughts on australia being non-existent in the tech and gaming industry

01:05:30.640 --> 01:05:35.920
it's really far that's the only reason i've never found

01:05:34.160 --> 01:05:39.200
it there's actually a lot of tech fans in australia yeah and there's a huge

01:05:37.680 --> 01:05:44.079
amount of tech sales that happen in australia so the community is actually

01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:48.880
pretty decent uh getting a show out there is extremely expensive if you're

01:05:46.799 --> 01:05:52.799
not based there because pax has one but i think that's yeah yeah and it's

01:05:50.319 --> 01:05:55.599
relatively small yeah but again it's extremely expensive and getting a lot of

01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:59.119
the creators out there um

01:05:57.520 --> 01:06:02.160
show like packs is at the scale where they're not generally paying for

01:06:00.720 --> 01:06:07.119
creators to go um so the creators are going to be

01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:11.119
sponsoring themselves to go um or getting sponsorships to go and both of

01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:14.880
those are way more difficult because it's really expensive and the roi is a

01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:19.359
little bit different it's it's a difficult market but

01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:23.359
like yeah the the tech community in australia is actually very large very

01:06:21.200 --> 01:06:26.960
vibrant yeah yeah all right bye guys goodbye