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welcome to the wan show ladies and gentlemen uh if you have any issues
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working just fine on twitch we have done as much diagnosis as we can
while the stream was offline and as far as we can tell
we have no idea yeah it started working on a test
channel and it looks like it's still a little borked right now
yeah so that's pretty sweet i don't know um
yeah so there you go what's the bug now it's just doing the same thing it just
hitches every once in a while yeah well it was yellow for a while at
first on the test stream as well so we don't know
it doesn't say anything jake hovering over it does nothing it just says okay
viewers may be experiencing minor issues and then it'll probably turn green again
it was green while everyone was complaining last time so we are going to
start over we've got a great show for you guys today
uh the big news i mean
yeah johnny ive is leaving apple but it's
also not the end of the world because he is going to continue to be involved okay
yeah so apple might be okay i guess
or i mean well it depends on whether you think apple's okay now
so for better for work okay you know we'll talk about it more later uh intel
intel's internal memo reveals that they
are impressed by amd's progress
now that is high praise indeed that is for
it to be in an internal memo that's pretty high praise but again like i said
before we killed the stream internal memos are basically just blog posts now
have you read the memo though no it's
pretty impressed we'll talk we'll talk about it they must have also known this
was going to hit media and going to hit amd yeah i guess i i don't understand
what they could possibly yep okay we'll talk about it more later yep time split
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probably i'm assuming still won't work at good distances and a laser can
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don't know how to turn the volume down i don't even know where they're plugged into
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oh here comes a train that's what we needed yeah that's what we needed more
more issues today yeah
perfect so it's friday ladies and gentlemen i will say in the amazing
video that i don't know if it's on youtube or not yet but the high fresh
rate gaming video yes that actually hit youtube uh yesterday the train segment
was hilarious that actually happens far more often
around here than you guys would probably think i mean it's one of those
challenging things where the only place that you can find affordable commercial
real estate uh go figure happens to be next to the train tracks because nobody
wants to live there because nobody wants trains rolling by all times of the night
and day when they're trying to sleep or gold out their daily lives yeah it's
just something that we have to deal with because um
i don't even i don't even know if there is any industrial
not near train tracks not near either train tracks or like a super highway
superhighway heavy trucking road yeah something like that yeah so anywhere
where you're where you're gonna have a ton of noise pollution that's where you
stick your commercial zoning at least here in the in the vancouver area so
um the reason the reason that it was particularly bad in that video and that
it interrupted us more than it normally would like sometimes we would just roll
through it like right now the train's going you guys can't really hear it
was because in order to shoot high refresh rate video
we had to have the bay doors open to get as much natural sunlight in as we
possibly could that's why it was a problem interesting
so every time you double your frame rate you lose an f-stop is that right brennan
you lose a stop yes yeah okay so when you go from 30 fps
which is what we normally shoot at to 60
you lose a stop when you go to 120 you lose another you go to 240 you lose
another you go to 480 you lose another then you go again to a thousand you lose
yet another one so by the time you turn something up to a thousand frames per
second if you were trying to use the same lights that we're using right now
at 30 frames per second you're basically looking at a dark frame yeah like
there's not much left um actually could we could we compare that
or could we yeah yeah like do we have enough
apertures on this camera to just change the shutter speed let's change the
shutter speed how do i do that i don't know how to change your shutter speed
can i just change the aperture which one's aperture
this is great oh hey we got the readout on obs so
everyone gets to see that that's kind of cool nice okay so we're here yep this is uh 30
frames per second so there's a stop
so remember this is going from 30 to 60. another stop okay so now we're at 120.
this is another stop this is what it would look like at 240.
that's what it would look like at 500 frames per second
and then this is what that's recording
so guys to put that in the proper context it looks so bright now uh the
on-screen displays oh yeah do you mind brandon thank you so to put that in context um
right now we're shooting with two six-foot soft boxes
in order to well look natural so uh so yeah so you
basically need direct sunlight now normally when you're shooting in direct
sunlight you would actually apply what's called a neutral density filter or nd
filter directly to the front of the lens in order to block out a ton of the light
but when it's high refresh rate you're dealing with you want as much light as
you can possibly get even with as much natural light as we could get
some of it was still pretty dark especially in the upcoming
mouse latency testing video that we'll be releasing in the next little bit here
um
people are discussing apertures oh like aperture science wait didn't
jake turn monitoring off those headphones are still clearly
yeah they're loud can we just unplug them not a problem yeah i could
is it around the back oh i'm sorry i thought it was on the front no it's way
around the back oh okay that's kind of not great oh and it's cable managed oh
boy like way down
you know what forget it i'm just gonna like bury them
put them under your shirts i'm just gonna put them over here okay then
in here cool there shut up okay sounds good this
is the problem i run into whenever i'm not the one who sets things up because
it's like it's not complicated it's just
you know which uh which audio source is mapped to which
output but like if i didn't do it i don't know exactly the way that someone else
configured it yeah and there's also hardware ways to do that with our setups
it's like your dad setting up your home theater system in the 90s like no one's
allowed to touch it after it's done
you know a lot of change anything logitech harmony remote changed my life
because it's relatively speaking once you get your ir
blasters positioned that's the main challenge is getting
your ir blasters in all the right places
so that it actually consistently activates and deactivates things also i
had to contact logitech support
to change i think it was either my tv or
receiver i had to get them to add the menu option for power on
and power off instead of a toggle no it
was my home theater pc that's what it was so the only option by default
is power toggle and
as if any if you've ever used a universal remote before you'll know why
that's a freaking problem yeah because
as soon as it desynchronizes every time you try to turn the system on
it turns it off and you end up in this stupid flip-flop
and you have to get up off your butt which is what you didn't want to do
play video games or watch tv yeah you have to get them off your butt and go
manually turn it on and off and uh so so
get this i complained about this they went oh yeah that's a known issue we
have to go into your harmony account and add that option for you and i went
that's not a solution so yes my home theater works perfectly but can i
recommend a harmony remote to someone else who has a media pc as part of their
tv setup no i can't because that is a
phenomenally stupid solution to the
problem that should just be an option
because for pretty much everything else in my
setup so i could decide what the activity was so so for your
activity you can decide what the commands it sends are okay so my tv has
power on or power off or toggle i can decide and what that's when you launch
and when you end the activity you can tell it which ones to do but for
whatever reason pc didn't have that option at least when i said so as
someone who never so mad had a harmony remote why do you even have to tell it
that it's a pc um well when you you have to tell it it's a pc because
whenever it's takes the ir input which is
uh watch pc is what i call mine so watch pc it then needs to blast out one after
the other all the things that go with it so it has to say receiver fire up
receiver change to this input uh re and
then it has to go tv fire up tv make
sure you're on this input then it goes pc wake from sleep
so it has to know what that code is supposed to be yeah
okay um so
it made me so mad because i was like holding my old microsoft media center
remote i was like okay we have on and we have off so clearly those codes exist
because some devices don't have it yeah and that's just a problem on the
device level yeah i was folding a remote and i knew it worked
so so basically it's a menu if you want to recommend this to any one of the home
theater pc you have to say buy it like before you even leave the
store or no you'd have to set up an account you have to get home and part of
the account creation process is called yeah you're just going to have to get
now in logitech defense the harmony support team was excellent okay
cool but it still made me really mad that i had to talk to them to do something that
i should be able to do within the menu talking to anybody makes me mad so like
i totally hear you no
uh why don't we move into like the big news this week yeah um johnny ive
leaving apple so for those not familiar
he's the bald guy with the british accent in the commercials
the unapologetically plastic guy yeah um
so he's he's their chief designer was
chief design officer he's leaving the company apple announced it on thursday
so that's yesterday he's considered and you know i guess it
depends who you ask i'm sure it's by many people i'm sure there's lots of
people internally at apple who are like yeah maybe it's time to move on you know
it depends who you ask i suppose but he's considered one of the most important people at apple responsible
for the industrial design and the look and feel of all major apple products
including the ipod iphone and the mac which really raises the question what do
all the other people there do yeah no i'm serious in the design department
yeah i'm actually serious right now because they have so many designers
is it maybe like taking his ideas and
actually creating them like does he just draft ideas maybe
and here's another question apple doesn't actually have that many
products or okay another thing okay to be fair about with apple is they seem to
over credit individuals really hardcore right so that's why like this individual
person is responsible for everything that happens a lot with apple so maybe
he's the chief design officer so maybe he ran those things for all major
products but that's not the way that it gets
communicated i completely agree but that has been a thing with apple for a long
time so either apple basically runs on like eight people
yeah or there's maybe something else going on
because this has been true for like the history of apple
so uh anyway sure people are gonna be on me including ipod iphone and mac so he's
worked at apple for more than 20 years and he's going to start his own design
business called love from with capital l capital f which i'm sure
is very important extremely um apple will be his first client so he says
while i will not be an employee i will still be very involved i hope for many many years to come
um he doesn't have an immediate successor
so yeah interesting
there's a couple of alan dye and evans
hanky uh we'll report to jeff williams the
apple's chief operating officer while i've reported directly to tim cook
there's a note in here that says ive was first noticed by returning ceo steve
jobs because of his colorful design concept of the imac
so was he the like carry it by the handle colorful
transparent imac guy if i recall correctly yes that makes
sense in terms of timeline yeah gosh i'm
old okay
so anyway that's both a big deal and then also sort of a nothing burger just
because um he's still gonna work with apple he's
just hot take i don't think they've had very inspiring design for a while
well okay so this is where i
okay so this is where oof
it gets kind of um
so i say a lot that i feel like
apple products are designed for people
who don't have a lot to do um so if you look
okay hold on yeah quick pause sure when's that competition happening
uh oh uh not for a few weeks i think okay yeah so
what he's referring to is the editing showdown uh jonathan morrison from tld
is going to be coming up here to compete in an editing showdown with our very own
uh taren van hemert it was just obs like you guys should have a like
quick hot takes about the other platform thing
before the competition like independently so taryn and jonathan will
make their own comments but i am not there to editorialize oh i will be
mostly hosting the showdown oh cool
that's my role we also are working on a panel of celebrity judges okay uh i'm
not going to comment on their status yet because i don't want there to be any
like pressure on them or anything but i have certainly reached out for the
premier side of things we we wanted a panel of four judges uh two that are
more steeped in final the final cut ecosystem okay and two that are more
premier folks okay and so i have reached
out to eber from hardware canucks as well as um nico from the corridor
digital crew oh cool and i have received receptive responses
from both but neither of them are confirmed okay so i would love to have
them on our panel of celebrity judges but it's always complicated coordinating
people with such busy schedules oh yeah here in the studio
creators are difficult to wrangle it really and i don't blame them at all i
totally get it because my schedule is stupid yeah i
literally have no idea when he's in the country or not okay so back to my back
to my point about apple products seemingly being designed for people who
don't have a lot to do um have you ever used apple's calendar app
no it's utterly worthless genuinely like you you just google calendar is great
you can't even google calendar okay so yeah that's good so even google calendar
compared to there's a third-party app called business calendar that's only
available for android it's not available on ios
and it is full beast mode
like tiny text you can configure it this way you can
have like tiny text so you can actually read everything and you can actually
tell what the hell you're looking at meeting coordination in google calendar
is fantastic though yes so that's the main thing i like using it for apple's
calendar app by comparison simply has no way to configure it with
the same degree of display density okay so it seems to make the assumption that
you either don't have a lot on your plate or you
have all the time in the world to drill down and look at things oh you mean like
okay i thought you meant in terms of one like you wanted to be able to read
everything of one task but you mean you can read your entire day by making it
all really strong you can read the entire month
like all the agenda items for that day from the month view on this business
calendar app and it's just it's a whole other level like um i i was telling
yvonne because she had issues with um she had some issues with android because
let's face it there are some issues with android um she had some issues with
android and i said look why don't you try an iphone for a bit and she tried it and she was like this is completely
unusable because there isn't a replacement she tried every calendar app
for ios also really annoying i have to
carry one now and it won't stop yelling at me about apple pay
yeah yeah i know right and like everything else it's like hey you should
use this feature i'm going to pop up 10 million times i don't want this to turn
into a rant about ios yeah but if you don't have a sim in it there's no
way to disable the hey there's no sim installed i know you're an ipod right
now okay i don't care
do i pass butter deal with it it cannot handle that it's like no i am iphone
yeah i am a phone where is your sim card
i deserve a sim card
i was born with sim card privilege so yeah
oh yeah look at this asteroid week says um our asteroid says weak mode in
business calendar is the best
uh yeah yeah it pretty much is so so anyway so
i i end up i end up with this sort of
observation almost every time i go to use an apple product because the amount
of sort of manual drilling down of things um
just annoys me and you know what ipad os looks like it's going to address a lot
of my complaints about ios on a large screen device ipad has been very
interesting lately i apple seems determined to resurrect this
sort of i won't say failing but i will say
stumbling business unit they've had a really hard time convincing anyone who
already has an ipad that they should get a new one
and that's been my i still the only tablet in my house is an ipad 2.
because well a lot of the things you're going to do with it doesn't really matter
you can still do it just be fine put the kids in front of it when i need a break
that's basically its only job
you entertain the young ones like and the thing too is that i don't
even use it for that that often but it's still perfect for that because
it's an ipad so you leave it for two weeks and the battery's still alive you
can never do that with an android tablet yeah
and so the very occasional time that i use it it's ready to rock and i can go
take a nap the nap machine the nap machine this
machine creates the inapp that would actually be an adorable
commercial they would never do that apple's
marketing collateral is all about what a creative intellectual person their
product turns you in no but like you're not about like getting a rest it would be cool if they just named it like a
million different things and they could even go back to that like put the i there and then rotate the word
and they could like like for this person it's the inapp and it creates naps for
them for someone else that's like the i create and they can throw that
crap in and then for someone else it's it's igame whatever i feel like that
could be actually kind of energy they would never do it no they would never do it speaking
of things i thought they would never do intel internal memo reveals they're
impressed by amd's progress yeah this is kind of hilarious this is wild so uh i'm
gonna try and bring up the actual memo because it's freaking awesome okay yeah
here it is on tech power up if you guys want to read the whole thing make sure
you head over there but basically
here we go we are now entering the latest chapter
of the tech industry single long-running business rivalry intel and amd have been
competing for many of the same chip customers for more than 50 years oh wait no this is dang it this is tech powerups
introduction where's uh intel's thing following amd's
blah blah oh here it is why amd is now a formidable competitor wow was actually
that alone a sub subheading in the internal memo that alone is huge right
oh man so they basically go yeah they've had uh two years of greater than 20
annual revenue growth uh thanks basically to rise in and epic and then
they pretty much attribute it not entirely but a big part of it to the
strategic refocus on premium high performance products
now i do have to look at that and go i feel
like it's a little bit oversimplified and or even misleading yeah i'm sure if
amd could have built high performance products five years ago they would have
they just had nothing yeah like they had straight up
nothing like intel right now i mean it's not like it's not like zen
doesn't scale down to low performance products they can do a quad-core
processor if they want yeah i mean okay back to a particularly dark time in
amd's history they could build a tri-core processor they really wanted to
yeah they just don't that was awkward they're not stuck
making just that like it scales down just fine
the issue was they just had nothing
um anyway back to back to the art and
back to the memo though so key amd competitive threats are from
high-end products i also think that's kind of that's kind of another funny one
because what do you mean by high-end products specifically the key
amd threat is across your entire product stack all the way from like
100 to 200 cpus which last i checked is
pretty low end yeah all the way to
many core data center products which yes
is a high-end product um maybe what they're referring to here
specifically was amd's focus on apus
because that was the whoops amd's focus on apus because that was the
only thing that they could build that had competitive performance and only
because their onboard graphics were so much better than intel's not because the
cpu cores were competitive maybe that's what they mean by this but like
i think again that's um
a little misleading because almost everything intel's built in the last few years on the consumer side is an apu by
amd's definition yeah the height of the apu war was kind of a pretty weird time
it was a very weird time because everyone wanted to like i think people
wanted to support amd so everyone would flex the apu gpu performance yeah and
then no one would run it that way because it wasn't really good enough for
almost anything it's a really awkward time ah hi ed what
can i do for you did you do the videos uh i didn't
how badly do you need them
next week we can get that next week cool
cool thanks ed thank you um okay so let's let's have a
look at uh some of the other some of the other subheadings here
so man this like this is like a scary time
to be intel like i can see why they're sending out this memo it's like look guys we have to acknowledge this stuff
amd has recently been gaining some traction and winning public cloud
offerings that's a pretty big deal
yeah um amd's upcoming next generations encore products codename rome for
servers and matisse for desktop will intensify our desktop and especially
server competition
intensify the forward
the firepower is likely to be the most intense in
about a decade which is another way of saying amd had nothing
for 10 years yeah and it's true um
okay i mean they're even acknowledging the
notebook and the notebooks and business pc competition that's incredible
um now this is again sort of misleading by
leveraging tsmc's seven nanometer manufacturing amd no longer manufactures
its own chips they got to get that in there amd can drive higher
and higher performance um now they they acknowledge it later on
in the memo but that's not really the main reason that amd is able to drive
higher core counts and higher performance
yes global foundries did stumble we know this
but um amd wasn't on tsmc's seven
nanometer node for ryzen gen1 and ryzen gen 1 was a return to
competition um really it just has more to do with amd's modular approach to
their core design that is a big part of the reason that amd can drive higher
core counts and amd's been driving higher core counts than intel for a couple of years now
the big thing that's happening now is the ipc improvements with zen 2 that are
making these many core desktop processors now
competitive even in single threaded tasks allegedly this is all still based
on amd data and or leaks what can i do for you oh yes uh here's a prompt to
remote thank you dennis so one thing that i think is kind of going on in
parallel to this is intel's community communication and
marketing whatever you want to call it not necessarily pr to
the masses because it seemed to be pretty on top of at the very least
communicating with enterprise level stuff right um but enterprise level
stuff other than trust in terms of it will
work doesn't really care that much no
they'll use because a lot of these so the thing that you guys got to
understand is for a consumer
they buy something with the expectation that it has already been validated for
them if you're designing a super computer
like if we were to go to the very very high end of the enterprise space if
you're designing a super computer you are
in some ways expecting the hardware to
have problems and you are expecting that you are that
you are engineering a solution around them as part of your design process
that's the reason why you'll see the latest supercomputer
spinning up when there's literally a generation newer hardware available to
consumers or to the smb market or whatever the case may be because that
design process happened you know 18 to 24 months ago um so yes they get early
access to the hardware so that they can work on this design but there's there's
only like there's only so much you can do like the silicon is just not finished
yet yeah but i think i think
i noticed something so i i went to a lot of conventions i would go to pax's like
crazy and all this kind of stuff and intel started doing something where they pulled out of conventions intel was in
conventions yeah for a very very long they were huge at packs up until like a
couple years ago i think yeah and until it was like at the start of pax and
until was a big deal there and they held a big deal position for a very long time
and their booth kind of shrinked and eventually it became a little bit less
experiential and check out our crazy products and it became
look at our partners products and stuff like that but it was still there it was
still really interesting it still brought actually a lot of people in
compared to many booths on the floor that were hardware based they were very active i know like corsair was really
active and stuff too but they were very active um and then and amd didn't really
exist amd was not what are you doing i'm
spamming twitch.tv linustech in the chat because people are complaining about the
leg we don't know what the issue is but it's something to do with youtube um
but then again it's happening on floatplane too yeah so for whatever
reason our stream is perfect on twitch just go over the actually most confusing
part is that it is working on twitch but yeah that's cool so here we go uh but
yeah so right around when intel who had this
like literally complete market share although there's only two of them for
processors showing up at conventions they disappear amd shows up and amd show
that was literally the most perfect timing for amd and the worst timing for
intel ever because intel loses this like and i know roi on conventions
is like ridiculous and terrible and hard to track but
don't talk too much about that though we have our own convention now yeah but
to tie into that convention the sentiment you get from those people
yep and these are influenced really strong and then they're going to go talk
to their friends and they're gonna talk on forums they're gonna do everything else so it spreads out like crazy and
when you can have that interaction as a hardware company in person which you
almost never have it's super valuable and that doesn't mean that intel not
showing up all of a sudden generates negative sentiment like it's not that
simple but intel loses their opportunity
to say you know hey we're good too right
around the time that amd is coming in banging this we're awesome right now
drum we're super awesome check it out and like amd shows up with crazy booths
now that are really interesting they're doing giveaways they have like their
booths are banging and they show up out of nowhere
it's it's just really it's and that seems to be happening not just at the
convention level that's somewhere where it's extremely tangible you can see it
happen intel disappeared amd showed up
and they completely took over the convention space i've been asked as a
long-time intel user by uh i forgot whether it was over twitter on our forum
or something i but i've been asked would you consider an amd chip for your next
rig and i was like yeah of course
like the only reason that i'm not running amd now is that it isn't the
highest performance solution right now because the thing is and i don't want
like this is not this is not a flex thing this is not like
trying to rub it in or anything like that but i am not
budget constrained for my computer so i
have i've had a lot of people ask me over the last couple of years
well amd is competitive why are you still running intel because it's faster
it might not be the best option if you're building different price to your computers exactly so depending on what
kind of a price point you're targeting yeah amd might make a ton of sense and
i've recommended amd plenty but no i
haven't been using it because why would i well that looks like it
might change so depending on how our evaluation of ryzen
third gen goes yeah it's very possible like people
people treat me like i've never had an amd computer you know what just for fun
i'm going to try and list out all the processors i've ever run oh i can't
remember this every time you do this i'm like i have no idea what i had it's
gonna be really hard okay so the first cpu i ever owned was a pentium 90. like
this was my personal tower i inherited it from my uncle it was a pentium 90 in
like the early 2000s so it was like
pretty slow yeah okay so then the first rig i ever built for myself
athlon xp 2500 plus heck yeah bought me
that 2500 plus baby then i got a 2500
plus mobile because it overclocked a little better overclocked that thing to
3200 plus but guys amd fans speaking from the heart
for heart to heart here okay we were deluding ourselves if we thought that a
3200 plus was actually equivalent to a 3.2 gigahertz northwood c okay it was
not that was not a thing that was real two percent of the audience understand
what's going on next cpu was um
i believe it was a claw hammer
i want to say it was a 3200 plus it was the one with less cash
um was it or was it north something shoot
okay so no no not north korea get get go on get out of here
okay so sledgehammer was fx only and then uh clawhammer was the single
core whatever it was a socket 754 single core athlon 64. it was a huge upgrade
and the reason that i went to that was because at the time games were
predominant basically exclusively single threaded so hyper threading while it was
nice for your overall system responsiveness did not make a difference
for games and games was 90 plus percent of what i did on my rig so i picked up
an athlon 64 single core okay my next upgrade was to sock at 93d 939 and the
reason that i had to go from 754 to 939 is super pissed off like that's another
thing amd fans are so quick to appointed intel for retiring their you know their
motherboard chipsets so frequently and making you buy a new
motherboard it's like don't don't imagine for a second that amd's hands
are clean and all of this either socket 754 lasted for like 10 months or
something stupid like that i can't remember what it was and 940 on the
desktop was even worse so i went to socket 939 and picked
myself up this was the most expensive cpu i ever bought for myself it was a
4400 plus and the reason i went for that was because it was the first consumer
dual core processor not counting like i don't even know was titanium multi-core
i don't know it doesn't matter the point was it was the first dual core processor
that you could buy for the desktop it was the full one meg cache was it one
meg per core or one meg can't remember um compared to the 4200 plus which had
less cash so that meant that with overclocking you could get full 4800
plus performance which was other than the fx line which was basically dumb
because it was just an overclocked the other thing
so other than the fx line it was the fastest consumer chip you could get
so from my 4800 plus what did i go to
i got an optron 165. are you noticing a pattern here
noticing a pattern a lot of amd's not amd isn't that funny most of my growth
was on amd chips as well so i got an optron 165 and the reason for that was
it overclocked slightly better that was around the same time i picked up asrock's very unique uh agp and pci
express board because i had an agb card at the time and i wanted to move to pci
express later cool it was a great overclocking board shockingly other than
the fact that you couldn't run one t on your memory timings no matter what you
did i tried everything all right
from there i went to the e6600
now why would i do that well because conroe was a performance revolution it
was a complete game changer it absolutely curb stomped the aging athlon 64. and
amd didn't catch up so from there i went to
q6600 from there i went to q
9650 very temporarily i borrowed that one
from work um i think it was a qx 9650
excuse me borrowed that one from work deleted that i believe i was the first
person to ever delete a qx 96. a work thing don't worry about it oh um
interesting from there i picked up a core i7 920 man that was a beast of a
chip got myself uh this was right around the time that kimonda went out of
business so kimono yeah remember
yeah so their aneon consumer lineup of memory i don't even know if this is
interesting to people they might not even be watching i don't care it doesn't matter so uh their aeneion brand they
had these one gig dimms that they were liquidating for i think our cost
was 20 bucks a pop and at the time
that was nuts it was wild so ncix bought everything
that we could take and internally we were buying them at cost so it was sick
so i bought some i still have some of that a neon memory okay hold on one
quick second here just out of interest in that era upgrading your ram was like
a huge deal it happened a lot yes and no
no we were a little bit after that ram was not affecting gaming performance
anymore especially because on the 1366 platform it was um
okay triple channel memory so you had a little bit before six memory slots so
when i had uh were they two gig dimms i think they were two gigs for 20 bucks
they were they were two gig games for 20 bucks and you could get the one gig ones for 10. i just remember when when when
we first started playing like everquest i never played ever everybody had to go
get more ram i had like ever wow everybody that i knew i had to like go
get more ram in order to play everquest but everything else worked i had a job and a girlfriend
i did not i was younger though uh anyway so sorry so okay so i went to
a 920 then i think at some point i moved to
like uh like an extreme edition on that platform that i borrowed from work my
extreme that's the only reason why i actually switched to intel originally
was because i got a retail edge extreme edition and i was like this deal is way too good
so of course the price performance here is wild yeah so uh retail edge speaking
of retail edge i believe i went 3 000 series through retail edge and then that
was right around the time that i became a product reviewer and i started more
legitimately getting chips that i could use in my personal rig from work yeah um
so i've been running intel since then and actually my personal rig even though
i upgraded it i did publish a video about that recently i ended up downgrading it again so i'm still
running a 5960x so i am looking for an upgrade
i need thunderbolt um which might be a problem or maybe i
could just run discrete cables i don't know i'll figure it out usb 3 extension
cables are a bad time from my experience though yes um nick is standing here very
patiently what can i do for you nick what's up dude hey you did a really awesome shout out for the merch and then
i did and then the stream died okay guys
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yeah that's the map so the byoc entrance
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there a dedicated byuc entrance to like the convention you can use either
but this is the one that is closer to the byoc so we're going to tell people
go this way or go that way and if you guys ignore us you will ultimately be
able to get where you're trying to go it just will be less efficient so question
about byoc stuff is that like roped off or like how does
you guys are starting ahead of the game because most conventions don't rope off
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get stolen and then they have to rope it up remember that the by right is not ltx
right it's dreamhacks byoc they're doing
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play is right here the byoc is right here the freeplay admin and the byoc
admin is here and here this is the stream studio i think they're planning to bring some streamers out or something
yeah this is the vip special guest byoc so that's where you'll set up cool
floatplane people main stage meet and greet with creators of which we have
like two dozen coming now i love how the flow where all the floating people are
is gonna be right next to meet and greet for creators so i can just try to like poach people as they finish their meet
and greets oh yeah oh yeah very cool we're doing uh
gladiator jousting motherboard house of cards we have an entire palette of pcbs
so people are going to be able to like build up you're going to try and build the tallest house of cards from pcbs
there will be prizes nice we have so much prizing
nvidia sent over a hundred pounds of graphics i was gonna say wasn't it like
uh you did it based on weight or something yeah yeah
like rtx 2080 ti's 2070s uh 2060s that's
awesome three pallets zotac is sending three
pallets of pricing have they gone mad son what
that's amazing what are they even drunking
it kind of makes sense okay i'm going to give you another pax history thing sorry
early day early days of pax it was much more hardware based right i remember one
year nvidia was an entire wall in the
singular convention center that there was a singular convention hall that
there was uh and like many many many more hardware booths and back then we
would come back from conventions with like bags of swag and we would often
like technically make more off of swag than
we spent on the tickets and the trip in general which was like wild but that
happened many times and now you're lucky if you get like a few t-shirts because
it's all gaming companies i'm not that surprised that this is going on because
it's a hardware based convention so the hardware guys are just like yeah i take
a bunch of stuff so which is so cool we have 3000 people coming each day
assuming that we sell the rest of the tickets and like saturday we'll be 3000
people yeah so i'm not saying everyone's gonna get like a full outfit and a
gaming phone oh yeah no but we are doing our best to source as much spread
give away swag as we can and really we want to encourage
participation yeah if people participate
they will walk away with something if people don't participate it's going
to be a lot tougher yeah that's kind of the way that i want it to be i want lts
that's how it should be highly interactive yeah absolutely that totally
makes sense uh so back to the layout uh razer's gonna be there
uh this is gonna be fun there's an escape vr there's actually a lot of vr
experience so is the skate vr like a room that you have to move through or
something i don't know exactly how it works but it's a third-party company that like does these cool yeah so it
should be pretty cool it's an escape room in a vr environment it's an escape
trusting and then people actually they can't hear you because you're off mic
it's an escape room in a vr environment there's trusting yeah don't worry it's
fine there's also like regular vr gaming
um and then there's vr which isn't really vr because it's
more just reality but a camera uh rc cars
um there's remote remote cars board game
lounge uh food and beverage memex is going to be there msi is going to be
there and that excuse me is going to be there bs mods is going to be there
inward and stuff cool so this year there's actually going to be a bunch of
different like hardware brands there physically and it's going to be hardcore
too like cpu deleting we're going to have a booth for that again so uh roman
der bauer sent over a bunch of his delitting tools he's actually going to
be there by the way that's cool gpu repasting that's happening
dreamhacks indie playground case toss is back and you get to toss an old uh mac
pro cheese crater kind of really sad gigabyte's gonna be there the retro
gaming lounge and vintage pc area are gonna be super cool
um dreamhack indie playground that's actually i love the indie parts of these
kind of shows so it's going to be sick don't miss it um
yeah yeah it's going to be sick don't miss it
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all right we've got a couple more topics that i think we really wanted to talk about today um displayport 2.0 i hate
displayport yep i love it when it works
yep i hate it when it doesn't work yep and it just it seems to not work for me
at the most inopportune times if you have a monitor basically exactly next to
your computer fantastic if you have to do anything funky with it
ever it's horrible sometimes it doesn't even hot plug
yeah it's wild hopefully they fix that stuff in the new
version i don't know how much i trust that but
you know hopefully it's crazy fast 80 gigabit per second uh of raw bandwidth
effective bandwidth of 77.37 which is pretty nuts 8k 60 hertz hdr
uh 8k at 60 hertz greater greater than eight greater than 8k 60hz sdr 4k at 144
hertz hdr wow and two times 5k so dual
monitor if you wanted to daisy chain yeah okay at 60 hertz so
basically this is the biggest leap forward in displayport bandwidth ever so
1 and 1.1 were 8.6 gigabit per second so you could
do 1440p at 60hz which was a big deal at the time yeah 1.2 doubled that more a
little more than doubled that so you could do 4k 60 hertz that was a big deal
because prior to that to run 4k you had to do two cables dual cable which was
super styling on your display which was really cheesy it was bad too it's not
good um 1.3 and 1.4 could do up to
25.92 so that was actually a pretty small leap forward 4k 120 hertz or 8k at
60 hertz with dsc which is if i recall
correctly that acronym is the compression or the lossless compression
um and then finally dp 2.0 with i love this i love
this the like the acronym for the code name for it whatever we want to call it
is uhbr which to me sounds like uber uber uber 20.
77.37 gigabit per second so this is a tripling
in speed huge nut absolutely huge
so they've got not just one but a few different bit rate modes the fastest
mode in displayport 2.0 will top out at 80 gigabits per second of raw bandwidth
to about two and a half times that of 1.31.4
it also introduces a more efficient coding scheme resulting in less coding
overhead so as a result the effective bandwidth of the new standard will peak
at 77.4 so that's three times uh the physical characteristics the port itself
is staying yes that's good uh both the port that we
have now and the usbc connector via the dp alt mode both the official ports for
the new displayport 2.0 standard and the number of pins and resulting high speed
data lanes is remaining unchanged so it will continue to operate over four
lanes it also retains the packet-based approach to communication which means
that image data continues to be sent as packets over a fixed bandwidth link as
opposed to pixel-centric pixel clock approaches and so what has changed is
that the rest of the physical layer has been almost entirely replaced so
thunderbolt 3 oh with thunderbolt 3
which is now a royalty-free standard and is going to be called usb 4 i guess
except not quite because i think thunderbolt branding intel is still
going to be using as sort of like their
best-in-class implementation of the usb4 standard that is um sort of
that has a lot of optional components um
so thunderbolt 3 is truly bi-directional full duplex link two lanes allocated for
each direction um oh and displayport is focused on sending
large volumes of data in just one direction so displayport 2.0 reverses
the two inbound lanes to outbound cool
that's actually that makes a lot of sense i'm stoked as long as it actually works yeah yeah yeah
and i guess actually that's kind of oh yeah we can talk about the laser one
sure yeah so uh it's a new device developed by the pentagon
after the u.s special forces requested it basically everyone has a cardiac
signature and they can read that cardiac signature with an infrared laser apparently it
works through typical clothing like a shirt or a jacket which surprised me wow
um but apparently not a thicker like
winter coat but still a jacket which blows my mind
and i'm assuming they're going to have i'm kind of wondering if they're including like windbreakers as a jacket
hard to say i don't know what if it's to do with thickness or to do with layers
layers might be a problem too i'm not sure uh but but yeah apparently cardiac
signatures are already in use for security identification this has happened before uh canadian company
company that i'm going to butcher the name of but i think it's niamey has
developed a wrist worn pulse sensor as an alternative uh to fingerprint
identification a little a little crazy uh apparently it
can take a little while for it to kind of lock on but it does work at a fairly
far distance uh so it's only really effective if the subject is sitting or
standing not really like moving around and stuff got it yeah so 200 meters it
works from pretty wild that's crazy pretty wild
um so one glaring limitation is the need
for a database of cardiac signatures but even without this the system has its
uses but you could probably pretty easily get that
especially at like passport stations where people have to stand there for a
while you can just install it and grab it yeah
yeah because you're you're handing them a passport you're giving them your name
and all your information so yeah match that up and create a national database
really fast it's called jetson um in practice it's likely to be used
alongside facial recognition or other identification methods but
in the long term the developers believe in addition to identification it could
be used to scan for arrhythmias and other conditions remotely
and hospitals could monitor the condition of patients without having to wire them up to machines which i guess
is cool but it's just yet another way that big
brother will be watching and there's no real preventing it at this point
yeah this one's kind of hard to screw with the future is now
yeah just start wearing like a plate over your chest i was thinking about but it's
not just that because i think it can see it through your skin in general yeah i
guess they don't even have a cardiac signature in like your arm right yeah
so you'd have to have clothes clothes only solution lead clothing you'd have
to have clothing that like ripples intentionally
like actively ripples you'd have to have active clothing active
active ir camouflage
all right then so thanks for watching the lan show you guys see you again next week same bad time the same bad channel
goodbye see you later
it's a vibrating chainmail
super chats hello happy birthday preston
happy birthday wyatt uh lazy ak-47 says saw you in a pulse
weight commercial any other commercials you're in or will be in no not at this
time but it is a service that linus media group does offer like commercial
production it's not something that we publicize a
ton um so the only reason we ended up doing that with pulse way was just because
like i don't know we just kind of ended up
chatting about it like it wasn't um yeah i don't even know if it's on our website
but yes it is something that we do but no there's nothing really planned right now
bob says cut cake or cupcakes
you know i'm not a cake guy or a cupcake neither give me a good muffin oh
yeah okay on this topic because i wonder for the same about this too chocolate
chip cookie oatmeal raisin cookie
oatmeal chocolate chip whoa i don't think i've had that
it's amazing oatmeal is just better in my opinion
okay sorry we can keep going yeah i'm not that into chocolate chip cookies because they're usually
crappy cookies yeah and they just try to get by on the chocolate yeah it doesn't
work that way yeah um
ilya linus will you ever tell us about that colorful dragon tattoo you had
about a half year ago yeah i was just messing with you guys it's just a spray-on thing
oh that people thought that was real a lot of people did wow well i kept
reapplying it so it looked fresh for like quite a long time oh yeah interesting i was just
messing with people yeah um video suggestion a collab with your
bower since he's coming to ltx anyway the problem is that everyone in their
dog is coming to ltx and they're coming for ltx and i'm gonna be like scrambling
in the lead up to ltx and then recovering from ltx so unless they're
like hanging around for a week that's probably not going to be feasible
other side guy would you agree that car culture and building custom cars and modding is similar to the pc space yes
oh yeah definitely hey linus decided to blow five bucks just to see you make a
funny face all right
gap to granny um
brian says linus if you phase yourself out i'm gonna kermit
what is what is kermit i don't know
uh david says lion's been a huge fan of your channel for years taught me a lot keep it the good work thank you
uh john says andy will probably move to four threads per core before intel just
to fully nut kick them uh yeah
they probably will oh what did i click i don't know oh no
the down arrow maybe oh crud uh teemo i
did i got my new ltt hat and hoodie with home door delivery
post girl did apparently say that so you didn't need to go to the post office
man canada post rocks in finland
great feedback glad to hear
shout out to my wife claire who is probably listening to this tomorrow it
says seal team rix hey cool um
midland says good evening linus would you ever consider building your own studio and what would you need in your
dream studio what a tremendous question so if i were to build my own studio
first i would start with a ground floor with
like a library for kind of like a quiet place to sit
an editing den for all the editors to sit and work together and collaborate
like a camera area where we can build up our rigs and tear them down and store
them safely and like maybe a bathroom upstairs from that
i put a board room i'd put my office
i'd put an office for my wife who does all the accounting so she needs privacy
i'd put another small office just in case we needed it in the future maybe a
nice open space so that we could put cubicles or something like that nice
nice another bathroom probably yeah then i'd expand it okay okay so i'd put nick
in my wife's office i'd put her in mine and then i'd move over to the other side
where there would be three offices um luke had one of them at one point but
we would have kicked him out by then um we'd leave one of them open for like
meetings yeah i'd take one of them then we'd have like an open space for
the writers another bathroom the more people you add the more people need to pee yeah
i'd move the camera people out into the warehouse at that point i'd probably start with three warehouse units and i'd
do like a green screen like an ltt set like a workshop a tech linked set and
then like some storage area maybe maybe a little nook for the wan show then i'd
probably get a couple more units i'd add like an employee lounge and some more
storage and then maybe like a hardcore workshop with like modding stuff sweet
yeah that's probably what i do smart considerate concise that's what i do
um i was being facetious that's our studio
yeah what did he mean they probably didn't know that we have a studio oh i'm just teasing
we have a studio yeah we got our studio about four years ago yeah um
well i could understand why people don't know because we intentionally changed
the sets to look like a house
so anyone who started watching in the last year or two might not realize that the kitchen that
we shoot in all the time is not a real kitchen that was the whole idea so weird we
wanted the videos to look less like a set in a studio and more like we just
shoot out of a house like a normal youtuber but you do videos out in the warehouse sometimes sometimes not that
often anymore that often yeah weird that makes sense
nicola i'm going to an english course in vancouver but i'm missing ltx
oh rude what could i do that's tech related while visiting honestly not much
ooh readeth says are you going to do something ridiculous and cool with the
corning option go to freebie cable oh yeah go to free geek do that that's a
good idea thank you um yes i'd love to they're supposed to
send me one but they haven't yet uh joshua says there has been a way to
add special ir commands to the power sequence on harmony for many years i
think logitech didn't want to blame the customer uh yeah so the problem was that
i couldn't so you have to pick from a menu
yeah we went over all that um
other side guy imo evs haven't particularly taken off because the
futuristic design employed makes them look tacky
um yeah that's a fair point that's only part of the problem though yeah uphoric
says bitcoin is on the rise again do you have anything in the works for a mining
update nope i'm out
ah jake likes text says this is going toward a new stream pc that's not the
stream pc is not the problem also see you at ltx okay see you there
johnny says oh gee you better make ltx just as big or bigger next year my boss
told me he will be pay next year due to he needs me at
work in the holidays i had set aside for going so you better we will try i
honestly can't promise that like we're gonna have two dozen creators
there again because that is costing me a pretty penny the show itself could
expand though yes and then maybe
certain creators will just want to go anyways
ryan says do you still ride your sv650 yes
other side guy what's your thoughts on australia being non-existent in the tech and gaming industry
it's really far that's the only reason i've never found
it there's actually a lot of tech fans in australia yeah and there's a huge
amount of tech sales that happen in australia so the community is actually
pretty decent uh getting a show out there is extremely expensive if you're
not based there because pax has one but i think that's yeah yeah and it's
relatively small yeah but again it's extremely expensive and getting a lot of
the creators out there um
show like packs is at the scale where they're not generally paying for
creators to go um so the creators are going to be
sponsoring themselves to go um or getting sponsorships to go and both of
those are way more difficult because it's really expensive and the roi is a
little bit different it's it's a difficult market but
like yeah the the tech community in australia is actually very large very
vibrant yeah yeah all right bye guys goodbye