WEBVTT 00:00:00.319 --> 00:00:08.580 it's retro time and this is an NES a 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:14.940 North American Nintendo if you will the Nintendo Entertainment System this is 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:18.960 rather large for what you might consider to be a rather old and not very powerful 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:22.560 piece of Hardware but this was expandable that was the big thing like 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:27.000 you could use custom chips to make sure that your games would run whatever you 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:31.560 wanted them to run basically it kind of reinvigorated the video game Market in 00:00:28.980 --> 00:00:37.320 the west so much so that if Atari hadn't died they would have licensed to this as 00:00:34.380 --> 00:00:42.360 the AVS but Nintendo came back and they gave us this today this is well I mean 00:00:40.680 --> 00:00:46.800 you can you can tell the shell that has yellowed quite a bit 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:51.120 like that's that's real Hollow right and it's it's kind of 00:00:49.379 --> 00:00:55.559 pointless so um there's this project called 00:00:53.160 --> 00:00:59.820 tininess and what that does is it just kind of condenses everything you know 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:05.880 makes it more I mean compact like the box for this is actually smaller 00:01:02.760 --> 00:01:07.920 physically than the NES itself so let's 00:01:05.880 --> 00:01:12.840 put this to the side here and have a look at this we've got kind of a preview 00:01:10.140 --> 00:01:17.700 on the box here as to how big the actual console is it's not the size of the Box 00:01:15.060 --> 00:01:22.020 on the side here we've got kind of sort of public domain it's not quite this is 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:25.979 a fairly permissive license you can I think build this yourself it's not open 00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:31.340 source though made by tall Dog Electronics which I think is that a main 00:01:27.900 --> 00:01:34.140 wolf don't know a tinyness tinyness 00:01:31.340 --> 00:01:40.500 genuine okay this is where we need to talk about what the tininess is the 00:01:36.420 --> 00:01:44.040 tininess isn't a modern Recreation of 00:01:40.500 --> 00:01:48.000 the console it's literally the guts 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:50.220 from this shrunk down into this the way 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:55.140 they're able to do that is by harvesting chips out of those old consoles or in 00:01:52.500 --> 00:01:59.040 the case of the non-genuine version there are actually clone chips you can 00:01:57.420 --> 00:02:02.579 get that are completely I think they still make them or at least they're 00:02:00.600 --> 00:02:06.899 still available they're not great in terms of compatibility I think and some 00:02:04.979 --> 00:02:10.619 graphical glitches can happen but you can still build one of these completely 00:02:08.819 --> 00:02:14.160 from scratch without any official Nintendo components which is just great 00:02:12.959 --> 00:02:19.800 and on the back here we get another preview of what it looks like this time in 3D 00:02:17.040 --> 00:02:24.599 instruction manual of some kind so it's powered by a 5 volt DC which enters the 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:28.860 USBC Jack on the rear of the console okay so I will need a USBC power supply 00:02:26.640 --> 00:02:31.980 okay yep they have a provided USBC power adapter and black and gold usb-c cable 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:35.459 you know what I'm just going to not read this any further because it seems like 00:02:34.140 --> 00:02:40.980 something I could just find out by unboxing it and that's a lot more interesting isn't it let's just pull 00:02:38.340 --> 00:02:45.959 this out of here and is this an actually just an apple USBC 00:02:43.739 --> 00:02:49.440 adapter it's got an apple model number on it either that or it's a clone it 00:02:47.760 --> 00:02:55.260 doesn't feel like it's lightweight or anything so it's probably legit or legit 00:02:52.319 --> 00:03:01.019 enough for our purposes anyway that's pretty adorable so I guess this 00:02:57.780 --> 00:03:03.959 uses a trrs connector here to split off 00:03:01.019 --> 00:03:08.819 into the RCA outputs yeah this doesn't have HDMI or anything fancy like that 00:03:06.300 --> 00:03:12.840 it's just the original type of outputs that you would have gotten on the NES 00:03:10.620 --> 00:03:17.340 itself unless you were like me back in the day and you used this which is even 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:22.200 worse let's see we've got a tall dog sticker and an allen wrench I guess they 00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:26.640 intend you to open it up which is great because I'm going to do that and here is 00:03:23.940 --> 00:03:35.040 the console itself that actually looks really sharp and it's so tiny like okay 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:37.739 it's a little bit shorter in this 00:03:35.040 --> 00:03:42.540 Dimension than an NES cartridge okay a little bit wider and 00:03:40.260 --> 00:03:48.360 yeah a little bit thicker as well games I suppose just go in like 00:03:45.239 --> 00:03:50.220 that with the label facing that way oh 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:56.459 that's interesting there's actually already RCA jacks on the back of this so 00:03:53.580 --> 00:04:00.900 apparently the this connector here that goes in here 00:03:58.620 --> 00:04:06.599 splits out all of the individual audio channels so if you've got expansion 00:04:03.060 --> 00:04:09.659 audio in your Japanese famicom game 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:12.180 then you can get that and mix it 00:04:09.659 --> 00:04:16.380 separately from the built-in audio so I guess if your game is too loud on the 00:04:15.060 --> 00:04:22.260 expansion audio which is the thing that can happen you can kind of mix it separately or you can just mix it the 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:27.060 way you want to interesting I'm not sure why also apparently this can be 00:04:24.960 --> 00:04:31.259 configured for RGB output and I'm not sure how you would do that exactly 00:04:29.580 --> 00:04:34.620 remember what I said the license for this thing was pretty permissive well 00:04:33.060 --> 00:04:37.680 here is the block diagram of the whole console it's just right there find all 00:04:36.540 --> 00:04:42.240 the components and you can put them together in the same way that the console is put together which is pretty 00:04:40.740 --> 00:04:48.000 sick they even have the bill of materials here and according to this you 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:53.580 can install an RGB capable picture Processing Unit or PPU the original NES 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:58.800 didn't actually have RGB output in the traditional sense it's PPU basically 00:04:55.979 --> 00:05:02.820 just spat out more or less composite video which has been an issue for a 00:05:01.500 --> 00:05:07.500 while because if you've ever noticed that like emulators and Wii virtual 00:05:05.880 --> 00:05:11.759 console and everything thing else seems to have different colors that's why what 00:05:10.380 --> 00:05:15.840 colors you were supposed to get out of the NES were not really set in stone 00:05:13.919 --> 00:05:19.919 they varied from console to console basically back to the console itself we 00:05:18.419 --> 00:05:22.979 do have our video we've got the reset button back here which is kind of an 00:05:21.479 --> 00:05:27.300 interesting place to put it because some games kind of relied on the reset button 00:05:25.080 --> 00:05:31.259 on and off switch back here that works it's kind of sharp I would have 00:05:29.100 --> 00:05:34.919 preferred maybe a larger switch but it is powered with type c on the front 00:05:32.820 --> 00:05:42.539 we've got traditional NES controller ports so I can plug in my traditional 00:05:38.100 --> 00:05:45.180 controller my NES advantage or if I had 00:05:42.539 --> 00:05:47.160 a CRT to plug this into my zapper I don't have one of those here today 00:05:46.080 --> 00:05:53.520 though and on the other side there's nothing oh right there is one more thing and that's this little dial down here 00:05:50.580 --> 00:06:00.120 it's a potentiometer that is what you would use to adjust the levels of the 00:05:57.419 --> 00:06:03.900 balance of the the internal audio and the expansion audio like I was 00:06:01.919 --> 00:06:09.479 explaining earlier in case you're only using the onboard output and that's 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:14.100 basically it this thing is super basic aside from that we've got some I guess 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:17.880 nice looking but basic cables for uh audio video that's literally all you get 00:06:16.259 --> 00:06:22.440 if you got your your mono channel for audio and you've got your video 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:26.520 and we've got this nice uh USB type-c cable they're all braided which is nice 00:06:24.780 --> 00:06:30.600 I'll get these out of here and we'll power it on but first i'm going to talk 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:35.160 to you about our sponsor vesi thanks to vesi for sponsoring today's video soggy 00:06:32.940 --> 00:06:40.080 sock season is upon us which means 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00:07:28.979 oh oh oh oh oh that's a tight fit oh 00:07:25.580 --> 00:07:31.380 okay so one thing you might have noticed 00:07:28.979 --> 00:07:37.160 is that took quite a bit of effort to get in and out in contrast 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:37.160 the original NES 00:07:40.020 --> 00:07:47.940 a lot easier all right let's power this thing up uh you got me a monitor I was 00:07:45.599 --> 00:07:51.360 just setting up to well set this up when I realized that we have some more boxes 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:55.259 here we have a cartridge latch not sure what that's 00:07:53.520 --> 00:08:00.180 about maybe that would have helped with this and a famicom adapter which will 00:07:58.500 --> 00:08:05.699 let us use this in this as well so if you're not 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:08.099 familiar famicom and NES slots differ 00:08:05.699 --> 00:08:11.520 fairly considerably famicom is significantly shorter the cartridge 00:08:10.080 --> 00:08:15.479 itself inside of this is actually probably the same size as the famicom 00:08:13.979 --> 00:08:20.280 version they just made them this big so that they could slide in and out of this much more easily let's take a look at 00:08:19.080 --> 00:08:24.599 the famicom adapter and see how that works because as it stands 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:31.199 foreign that's 00:08:27.259 --> 00:08:33.180 fairly robust okay is this 3D printed 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:38.279 it's a pretty high quality print if so so I guess this would go something like 00:08:35.459 --> 00:08:41.940 this and then we would slot uh 00:08:40.260 --> 00:08:47.720 the other way huh okay the other way so I got it wrong 00:08:44.940 --> 00:08:47.720 the first time around 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:55.700 it instead slots in like that this will work on the uh 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:58.560 actual NES as well but this particular 00:08:55.700 --> 00:09:02.880 adapter is not really suitable for that because it won't 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:07.560 give you the ability to kind of reach in and kind of get it it'd be useful for a 00:09:04.860 --> 00:09:12.420 top loader which is what this is cartridge latch I have no idea what this 00:09:09.899 --> 00:09:16.399 what this would be what is what I think I see you ready for this 00:09:18.060 --> 00:09:22.980 that makes a lot easier to get your game out rather than just like like you can't 00:09:21.839 --> 00:09:28.560 can't just do this anyway how about we finally plug 00:09:25.620 --> 00:09:32.279 it in and turn it on power it on see what comes up is it going to be 00:09:29.880 --> 00:09:38.040 stretched is it going to be weird no it's Super Mario Brothers 3. what you 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:41.279 are seeing right now is actually a 00:09:38.040 --> 00:09:43.980 fairly good quality output composite 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:50.339 video isn't known for its sharpness but this isn't terrible I kind of expected 00:09:47.040 --> 00:09:51.720 worse oh the Koopas there are not doing 00:09:50.339 --> 00:09:55.800 so hot that's kind of what I was expecting but that means that the 00:09:54.120 --> 00:10:00.240 circuitry in this is actually fairly robust in terms of cleaning and 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:03.060 filtering the output signal making sure there's no interference that kind of 00:10:01.860 --> 00:10:06.360 thing okay let's play 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:12.480 okay input lag is well I mean it's it's original Hardware 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:16.440 input lag should be nothing I pre-compensated there for a jump that I 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:20.940 thought was going to take a little bit longer for to register 00:10:18.060 --> 00:10:25.500 but it's instantaneous the d-pad feels a little bit slippery 00:10:22.680 --> 00:10:29.279 8-bit token yeah maybe I'll switch out to the 8-Bit doe controller see if the 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:34.200 controller port in the front here has enough power to handle a Bluetooth 00:10:32.580 --> 00:10:39.360 transmitter all right let's switch the controller out it's not quite original 00:10:37.019 --> 00:10:42.899 style it's fairly close actually it looks like it's pre-yellowed 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:47.240 it's like the same color as the other one 00:10:44.700 --> 00:10:51.000 oh right I think this is a thing that can 00:10:49.380 --> 00:10:54.000 happen on real Hardware too well if I say real Hardware the original Hardware 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:57.600 if you plug in something that's power Hungry Like the Bluetooth dongle here 00:10:55.560 --> 00:11:00.660 it'll reset the console uh the 8-Bit drill controller this feels a lot 00:10:58.800 --> 00:11:07.620 stiffer yeah this feels really tight this d-pad's a lot better well it's a 00:11:03.540 --> 00:11:09.420 lot firmer if it's more defined the 00:11:07.620 --> 00:11:14.100 other controller is d-pad was worn in let's just put it that way after getting 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:18.180 past or I guess through the first level the audio sounds pretty good I can't 00:11:16.140 --> 00:11:21.240 turn it up unfortunately this monitor doesn't have a volume control for some 00:11:19.560 --> 00:11:24.720 reason but it sounds pretty good I don't hear any like buzzing or anything like 00:11:23.100 --> 00:11:27.959 that no there's not even any levels coming through right now on this pause 00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:33.180 screen which is something that would never be the case on my RF NES now 00:11:31.620 --> 00:11:37.800 composite video on its own it's going to have some problems this is probably the 00:11:35.640 --> 00:11:42.240 best case scenario for like upscaling it with the Retro tank 5x Pro here which 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:47.100 itself could probably do for another review because this thing has been 00:11:43.620 --> 00:11:48.899 updated significantly honestly this is a 00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:53.100 really clean composite output If This Were plugged into a CRT I don't think 00:11:51.300 --> 00:11:57.120 you would really notice any composite artifacts at all like the floor there 00:11:54.899 --> 00:12:01.860 not quite where the status area is that glitching is 00:11:59.820 --> 00:12:06.060 actually normal but you can see there's a little bit of like fuzz going on down 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:10.800 there but it's not as bad as I would expect you know what was bad though back 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:16.200 in the day to my recollection was Mega Man so let's throw that on and see what 00:12:14.180 --> 00:12:20.399 sound oh well that just comes right on so yeah 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:24.360 you can see the the kind of fringing between the the white and the red on the 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:28.019 three there and also in the logo up there there's a little bit of like fuzzy 00:12:26.220 --> 00:12:32.940 flickering that flickering is also normal for this game the Robot Masters 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:36.060 look pretty good here I remember a lot more fringing around the uh the stage 00:12:35.040 --> 00:12:39.959 select um like the borders there yeah I mean it 00:12:38.220 --> 00:12:44.820 looks it sounds great I mean obviously it's original Hardware so it's going to 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:47.880 uh I don't know if Super Mario USA has expansion audio or not but I'll throw 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:52.579 that in real quick just to kind of test it and then we'll take it apart 00:12:54.620 --> 00:13:01.800 is it just me or is like the composite artifacts way worse on this I usually 00:12:59.820 --> 00:13:06.899 don't play Mario in this game how about I take it apart they 00:13:04.740 --> 00:13:12.180 thankfully include a nice little allen wrench and I think yeah they have points 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:17.240 here that tell you how to get it open it's the right size all right cool that 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:25.380 that's it this right here is the original NES picture processing unit 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:30.360 this right here is the original NES CPU yeah they're both socketed so if I 00:13:27.540 --> 00:13:34.500 wanted to I could pry up the picture processing unit and replace it with an 00:13:31.980 --> 00:13:39.360 RGB one and I think you can also get a replacement rear module here that gives 00:13:37.019 --> 00:13:42.480 you RGB output so if that was a thing you wanted if you didn't want all those 00:13:40.860 --> 00:13:46.500 composite artifacts I was talking about then you can do that and more of that 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:49.500 white plastic in here I don't know if you can see that but there's little tabs 00:13:47.940 --> 00:13:55.920 in here that are kind of you can push them inside so it kind of grips the cartridges a 00:13:53.579 --> 00:13:59.220 little bit better yeah they get pushed out otherwise the cartridge was just 00:13:57.899 --> 00:14:03.779 kind of like plop on there and kind of do that 00:14:01.860 --> 00:14:07.440 and yeah on the PCB it's got carte blank side and cart label side what are these 00:14:05.700 --> 00:14:12.420 switches for are these overclocking switches yeah ntsc and pal so I could 00:14:10.079 --> 00:14:16.079 switch it over to the European Standard for video I think I would need a 00:14:14.160 --> 00:14:19.620 different PPU for that though now I mentioned these chips are socketed on an 00:14:17.760 --> 00:14:24.600 original console they probably wouldn't be I don't think they would be at all 00:14:21.839 --> 00:14:28.860 and the reason being they were specific usually to each region or console 00:14:26.940 --> 00:14:32.579 production run but they wouldn't have been interchangeable Because the actual 00:14:30.540 --> 00:14:36.660 board layout would have changed slightly to support that other 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:42.300 Processing Unit so in this case that's what those switches are for so if I were 00:14:38.459 --> 00:14:45.180 to pop out there we go that there 00:14:42.300 --> 00:14:48.720 is a Nintendo CPU well that was a lot easier to take apart than 00:14:47.220 --> 00:14:53.220 it was to put back together if you wanted to go with clone Hardware so not 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:59.519 an original NES then you're looking at 209 US Dollars 00:14:56.160 --> 00:15:02.100 which is steep for the proper Hardware 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:05.339 you're looking at 229 and that's for the unit you're looking at right here with 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:10.500 that in mind would I recommend it I think as a kit 00:15:08.160 --> 00:15:14.579 like a hobbyist kit it might be a lot of fun for somebody who wants to you know 00:15:12.300 --> 00:15:19.019 get their hands dirty with you know soldering and socketing chips and that 00:15:17.220 --> 00:15:26.699 kind of thing for like intermediate users that might be a uh a value add in 00:15:24.899 --> 00:15:33.000 terms of just playing your games I don't think this is really the best way to do 00:15:29.040 --> 00:15:35.160 it granted it is very small and it's 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:38.880 very convenient like to put on your shelf compared to uh like any of this 00:15:37.560 --> 00:15:45.060 stuff we didn't have a place to put it the NES is on the floor all the components except for the CPU and PPU if 00:15:43.019 --> 00:15:49.860 at least for the original ones those will be brand new and it's powered with 00:15:46.980 --> 00:15:55.440 USB type c which is super great especially considering the NES uses 00:15:52.199 --> 00:15:58.459 nine-fold AC just ridiculous for all but 00:15:55.440 --> 00:16:00.899 the most hardcore like Nintendo retro 00:15:58.459 --> 00:16:03.839 enthusiasts I I don't think I would recommend it for that much money 00:16:02.160 --> 00:16:08.399 especially when you can get a Raspberry Pi if you really wanted to or like you 00:16:05.699 --> 00:16:12.120 can get a fairly Baseline Mister setup for that and I guess that's really it 00:16:09.839 --> 00:16:15.420 honestly really nice looking but I don't think I could recommend it 00:16:13.620 --> 00:16:19.380 for any practical purpose but I can recommend ShortCircuit for you we have 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:23.540 plenty more like this one and unlike it as well so get subscribed