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Okay, so apparently what we think we ordered
is an ELSA GTX 1080 and a MacSun GTX 1060 5 gig.
And this is what we've got.
So why don't we start with the one that has no box?
So we've got ELSA on here.
That's actually like molded.
So, you know, presumably there's some kind of volume
to this production.
And then it's got a sticker on the fan that says de Broglie?
I don't know what de Broglie is.
But it doesn't sound very good.
The board feels pretty heavy.
It's got a lot of memory chips back here.
So this seems somewhat credible,
but there's no recognizable part number anywhere on it.
It's got what looks like a serial
and then a warranty void by a tear or damage.
And that's about it.
I gotta say though,
this shroud is sketching me out a little bit.
I haven't seen many 1080s that are that, sort of, cheap.
Sort of cheaply constructed.
All right, so we know already that this one
doesn't have five gigs of memory
because NVIDIA doesn't make a GTX 1060
with five gigs of memory.
This is a funny thing for me.
So Mac's son is using a really cheap heat sink design
on this thing.
Holy crow.
I haven't seen something like this on a card
above the like $100 price point in my memory.
So you see, even though it has
all of these aluminum fins,
this is just a, what is it?
Like a cast design.
I'm gonna check with Alex.
Would this be cast aluminum?
You see how the fins don't go all the way through?
Actually, no, this was extruded.
Extruded.
Okay, so his theory is that it's actually extruded
and that makes a ton of sense
because then they just have this profile
and they'd have the aluminum just kind of push through it.
And then they could just slice off heat sinks like this.
And then it's very little work to create,
these little slices for air to pass through.
And then these little spots where they can throw in
a couple of heat pipes.
This is a very inefficient way of cooling
versus having fins that actually pass all the way through,
so you've got a lot more airflow.
There's nothing really else about it
that sets off warning bells
other than the plastic back plate,
which will obviously not only serve no purpose for cooling
cause even metal ones don't do that,
but actually could make it worse.
Holy crap.
This might actually have five gigs of RAM.
What is a 160 bit bus?
Am I mistaken?
Is there a five gig that like,
look, you know what?
Let's just, all right.
So we've got benchmarks run
for our reference Founders Edition GTX 1080 already,
which means we can go ahead,
pull that puppy off the bench here
and throw on the Elsa de Broglie.
How much less did we actually pay?
I thought the idea was we were supposed to find things
that were like cheap.
Okay.
So 720 US for the 1080?
325 US for the 1060.
Okay.
They've got some kind of tape over the SLI fingers.
Why would they do that?
And not like a temporary looking tape.
Like this doesn't look like it's intended to be taken off.
These little heat sink fins on the back
don't actually appear to be like attached
to this aluminum plate in any meaningful way.
So I don't know.
I doubt sincerely
that they're really doing anything for cooling.
It does show up as a GTX 1080.
Benchmarks almost done.
And honestly, everything here is looking pretty good so far.
We haven't like power throttled or anything like that.
So 6551, average FPS of 49.
How does that compare to our Founders Edition, Anthony?
Our Founders Edition did 6576.
Okay.
So this one is bang on.
That's actually pretty cool
because compared to the overpriced mining cards
that were available at the time,
even though we did pay a lot of money for this thing
and getting a warranty for it
would probably be a pretty sketchy ordeal,
we at least did save a significant amount of money.
Spoil it for me.
Was there anything I was supposed to notice
that was bad about this one?
That shroud is for a GTX 980 Ti.
Not a 1080.
Did they reuse the PCB as well?
The PCB is for an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Founders Edition.
But then they're just using a 980 Ti shroud on it.
Yeah.
Okay.
There are model numbers on the back
that coincide with an Apple Mac Pro GeForce 7300 GT.
So it's not like it's not a little sketchy,
but by and large, we got what we paid for.
I consider that one a success.
All right.
This one, oops.
I am not quite as hopeful about.
These fans are exactly as cheap as the heatsink.
Oh, wait, hold on.
Maybe they're not at,
no, they're not as bad as I thought it, ow, ow.
Okay, you stop that.
This isn't like an AMD card or something, is it?
Okay, no, no, don't tell me, don't tell me.
Well, I'm not sure if I'm expecting it,
but we should see performance similar to a GTX 980 Ti.
This is a 1060.
Frame rates look like about what I would expect
from a 1060.
Let's see what it is.
It's actually showing up as 1065 gig
with memory running at four gigahertz.
So that would be eight effective.
So at 3532, that's about 300 points less
than we got with our Founder's Edition 1060,
but every piece of data we can find seems to confirm
that this is in fact a five gig card.
So those of you who have heard us rant on,
what was it?
The 1070 Ti video and at various points on the WAN Show,
we'll be aware of how we feel around here
about manufacturers saying, this is a 1060.
It's got six gigs of RAM.
And this is a 1063 gig, but oh, by the way,
it's actually also cut down in some ways.
We don't like it,
but apparently they're screwing around with this even more.
And more in other regions?
Okay, so after some digging,
what it looks like happened here is NVIDIA
actually released a China specific five gig version
of the 1060 with the only difference,
same number of CUDA cores,
with the only difference being the bus width
and the amount of memory.
So it performs as we saw fairly similarly
to a regular 1060,
but what with the whole global DRAM shortage and all that,
it comes in at a,
a lower price and it is intended for internet cafes.
So this card ended up accidentally on purpose
on a marketplace,
but it was actually for OEM sales only
to these kinds of LAN cafes
that are much more popular over there
than they are over here.
So once again, we actually got an okay value
and the product itself was legit.
So buying GPUs on AliExpress,
good idea, bad idea,
we're still not quite sure,
but it's,
it's not obviously a complete scam.
So that's actually better than I was expecting
to be perfectly honest with you.
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So we'll probably have like an eBay or a Craigslist link under the video at the end here
If anyone actually wants it
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