WEBVTT 00:00:01.439 --> 00:00:08.639 welcome to the WAN Show the first WAN Show of 2018 and 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:12.400 uh the last wednesday the last WAN Show of this week 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:16.400 before ces there we go i forgot what was important yes is gonna happen soon yeah 00:00:14.559 --> 00:00:19.920 that's that's i'm gonna blame my mind scattering on that so who's all going 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:24.080 because this is your first year it's my first year it's gonna be alex's first 00:00:21.840 --> 00:00:30.160 year alex the greatish yeah it's gonna be Jake's first time uh away from home 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:32.360 yes away from the nest his mom's driving him to the airport but after that he's a 00:00:31.840 --> 00:00:37.600 free man in vegas 18. i'm going to give her a 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:41.680 wink from the parking lot there oh yeah a knowing smile 00:00:40.559 --> 00:00:47.760 oh wow um and then so so you alex Jake max 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:51.760 yeah and then i think that's everyone who hasn't been 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:55.920 i'm not sure if pelo was there last year or not he's been around there's gonna be 00:00:53.520 --> 00:01:02.239 a pack of us though hey brandon look out was pella at ces last year yes yeah okay 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:06.320 so it's out so it's all just writers who weren't there last year 00:01:03.680 --> 00:01:09.760 whoa and max coleman was almost here i almost jumped in from the camera right 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:13.520 all right okay so that's that's what's going on with ces that's going to be 00:01:10.960 --> 00:01:17.680 next week expect a huge torrent of videos to be hitting youtube and 00:01:15.360 --> 00:01:21.439 Floatplane it's going to be insane tons of stuff coming excited and stressed 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:25.280 you should be already it's a pretty insane experience i have performance 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:28.479 anxiety on the one hand i'm so stoked because as a kid i i subscribed to xbox 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:33.840 magazine and they were always talking about going to e3 yeah and i was like oh that's so amazing it's totally different 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:37.600 sure but i never thought that i'd go to any yes giant conference like that and 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:41.439 see all this cutting-edge stuff face up cbs is more 00:01:39.520 --> 00:01:45.759 more insanity in terms of like that suits me 00:01:44.320 --> 00:01:51.280 the the people on the floor where you need to go so e3 is nicely contained in 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:53.360 one building and they're like super way 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:56.880 more hardcore or at least they were they've loosened it up a little bit 00:01:54.720 --> 00:02:00.079 about who could go so there wasn't a ton of people on the floor and it's all in 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:04.079 one building this is well early in the earlier days like in the early 2000s it 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:07.360 was less expensive yes yes and then they tightened it up yeah you should grow 00:02:05.520 --> 00:02:09.920 your beard longer you have so much more wisdom than i do and our beards are the 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:16.879 same length this doesn't make any sense uh but yeah ces is going to be insane um 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:23.280 i'll be at ces with a mustache no wisdom your first time all that off yeah no no 00:02:19.760 --> 00:02:24.400 i was like i don't know 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:30.959 either way what we're going to talk about this week is a lot of Intel stuff a lot of ARM stuff 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:36.480 a lot of AMD stuff as you guys know uh cpus right now are in kind of a terrible 00:02:33.920 --> 00:02:40.239 spot with meltdown and spectre both going around rampaging things where i'll 00:02:38.480 --> 00:02:43.920 talk about um we're going to talk about what different 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:47.280 companies are doing to deal with this how it's being dealt with how it might 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:51.440 affect you how it's affecting other companies different responses that are happening 00:02:49.920 --> 00:02:55.920 due to it all that kind of stuff we're gonna talk about all that kind of stuff and there's a bunch of other interesting 00:02:53.920 --> 00:02:59.280 things as well um like some stuff to do with spotify 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:04.080 uh and luke's super secret new year's 00:03:01.440 --> 00:03:07.440 resolution well the intro for dramatic effect 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.200 yes 00:03:13.920 --> 00:03:17.200 i made that last bit up 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:31.319 eat about as much sugar as i usually do 00:03:32.959 --> 00:03:37.920 yay sponsored strasbourg for making this 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:41.200 show viable moving back okay 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:46.400 let's get into it um i'm going to post 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:48.959 an rs technica thread it was uh or a 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:53.680 post uh an article article there we go we'll go with that it's posted by uh 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:58.799 peter bright it's a very good article thank you peter bright for making a very 00:03:55.920 --> 00:04:01.680 nice concise package this is everything that's going on it's way too long most 00:04:00.480 --> 00:04:07.760 people aren't going to read it grab a coffee and a donut to go through it kind of article there's a lot of information 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:11.760 this whole story is like an onion with layers yeah so we're going to take 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:16.160 you through the entire story of how these vulnerabilities were discovered uh 00:04:14.480 --> 00:04:20.560 the what the response from the parties involved was and kind of all the 00:04:18.400 --> 00:04:25.840 insanity that has ensued and is still ensuing today yes so i'm gonna jump 00:04:23.919 --> 00:04:29.680 slightly forward and explain what they are and then we'll jump back to the start 00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:33.120 and explain how it was found and all that kind of stuff okay sense okay and 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:36.720 jump around a little bit it's gonna be crazy tension so i'm gonna steal some of 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:40.160 this from rs technica again thank you very much peter bright uh mel so there's 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:44.960 two main uh vulnerabilities and they're kind of 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:51.120 related they are kind of related they they source from the same type of uh 00:04:47.520 --> 00:04:53.440 area so jumping to the rs article um 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:57.840 modern processors perform speculative execution that's where a lot of this is 00:04:55.040 --> 00:05:02.880 based on that is where a processor will assume what needs to be done next and do 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:06.560 that thing do those calculations and then if it is wrong and that isn't 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:11.199 what's happening next that is fine it doesn't matter it ditches all that code 00:05:08.960 --> 00:05:15.360 no big deal if it's right then hey it's already done it and it's able to execute 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:19.759 that thing faster this is a great thing it makes things run a lot faster 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:22.720 it's not a big deal that it's running some code and coming up with some 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:25.840 answers and then ditching those answers because it's making a lot of other 00:05:24.479 --> 00:05:30.560 things faster when it does guess correctly pretty much only upside 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:35.360 yeah this is a property of modern cpus yes 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:39.199 that would be a reason why spoiler alert 00:05:37.440 --> 00:05:42.320 these these vulnerabilities don't really have as much of an impact on older much 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:47.199 older chips yeah um so spectre and meltdown 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:52.000 that we're going to be talking about today um are 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:56.160 it perturbs the processor state in detectable ways which is bad that 00:05:54.479 --> 00:06:00.080 essentially when you break that down means that these vulnerabilities can 00:05:58.960 --> 00:06:04.080 watch even though it doesn't have access to 00:06:02.320 --> 00:06:07.440 these code paths these speculative execution code paths it can figure out 00:06:05.840 --> 00:06:11.120 what they're doing which is bad because it gives them more 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:14.160 information and it could result in more things down the line 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:18.960 meltdown inspector is what we know of right now so again to break down what 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:23.520 meltdown and spectre are meltdown it's applicable to every Intel chip made 00:06:21.520 --> 00:06:27.039 for many years i don't think we know necessarily right now actually there is 00:06:24.960 --> 00:06:31.919 a list yeah you should show the list i don't entirely know if the list is you 00:06:29.280 --> 00:06:35.600 don't believe my list oh we didn't do screenshots we have an HDMI 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:40.400 the classic meme of wancho which is it's late screen 00:06:38.400 --> 00:06:45.039 sharing is never not prepared and audio doesn't work 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:49.000 yes except what screen is that 00:06:49.440 --> 00:06:52.960 that's not up on either 00:06:53.520 --> 00:07:00.479 that's awesome um hold on 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:04.880 anyways there is a list i can post it in the twitch chat so you guys can check it 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:09.120 out yourselves suffice to say it's basically every Intel trip for the last 00:07:06.479 --> 00:07:12.800 15 years yeah kind of a big deal and it's going to affect different chips in 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:16.720 different ways which is another interesting part newer chips have 00:07:14.960 --> 00:07:21.440 certain standards which will actually help them deal with this um a little bit 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:26.000 better than certain older chips it also affects different programs differently 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:30.160 so certain programs are going to get hit by this really heavily 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:34.400 microsoft has found i will go into that more later but microsoft has found that 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:38.240 certain antiviruses have been using things in undocumented ways that utilize 00:07:37.440 --> 00:07:42.080 this type of stuff so when they try to turn 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:46.319 it off again we're going to get into that more later i'm trying to be vague because we'll go more deeply into that 00:07:44.400 --> 00:07:51.120 later uh it causes problems for the antivirus programs which is a nightmare 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:56.960 but anyways it's all it's all a whole mess but basically a verbal table of contents 00:07:55.199 --> 00:08:01.520 thank you uh meltdown chapter one applicable to 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:06.240 every Intel chip for many years listed in the twitch chat um and will be in the 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:09.919 dock if you access the forum so if you're watching 00:08:08.080 --> 00:08:16.319 this on youtube or you're listening to this on soundcloud which a few people do 00:08:13.919 --> 00:08:19.919 it does actually happen some people do listen to this on soundcloud uh you can 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:23.680 go into the description and there will be a forum link if you go to that 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:27.360 that'll show the doc and in the doc there will be a link with all capital 00:08:25.599 --> 00:08:32.159 letters that says list of affected Intel cpus anyways moving on every Intel chip 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:35.919 for many years along with certain high performance ARM designs only high 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:39.440 performance ARM designs this flaw depends on the way that 00:08:37.599 --> 00:08:44.560 operating systems share memory between user programs and the kernel and the 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:47.040 solution right now um carries some 00:08:44.560 --> 00:08:50.720 performance penalty in certain cases really brutal ones i believe the highest 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:54.399 reporter that i've seen is about 30 percent yeah but i think that's more 00:08:52.800 --> 00:08:58.000 anonymous it's usually i think it's usually especially if i have a newer CPU 00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:02.720 it's about five percent yeah yeah it's no very rarely that bad it's also only 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:07.279 certain processes and programs that are gonna get affected by it and it's also 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:10.880 less as impactful if you have newer chips and it's going to depend on what you're doing too i've heard in gaming it 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:15.760 can be it can result in like three frames 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:19.360 per second yeah fbs so yeah but it really is gonna depend 00:09:17.920 --> 00:09:24.240 um but the the answer to this is to put an 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:28.399 end to that sharing of memory between user programs 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:34.560 and the kernel which is why there's that performance penalty and then spectre um 00:09:31.760 --> 00:09:37.360 it's applicable to chips from Intel AMD and ARM 00:09:35.760 --> 00:09:43.200 this is where some of the confusion came in that we're going to talk about soon where uh AMD didn't think they were 00:09:40.880 --> 00:09:47.600 susceptible to anything and then now it's just Intel's susceptible to more 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:51.920 stuff and everyone's susceptible to some things and each company is trying to 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:55.040 minimize what are the the optics yeah like 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:58.800 AMD said this is a near zero chance of affecting us and and Intel doesn't want 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:03.519 their stock to drop so they're saying yes it does affect you yeah yeah it's a 00:10:01.680 --> 00:10:06.800 lot of politics involved as well there's a huge amount of politics in this we'll 00:10:05.040 --> 00:10:11.360 get into that a little bit more in the future um 00:10:09.040 --> 00:10:15.279 yeah it even says Intel AMD ARM and probably every other processor on the 00:10:13.040 --> 00:10:20.399 market that offers speculative execution which is like all of them um 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:25.519 it's also more subtle it encompasses a trick testing array bounds to read 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:30.720 memory within single processes which can be used to attack the integrity of 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:36.399 virtual machines and sandboxes which is rough that's a big deal for the 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:38.480 cloud yeah um and and cross process 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:42.800 attacks using processors branch predictors which is the thing that i was 00:10:39.839 --> 00:10:45.040 mentioning earlier where it can uh take little bits of resulting 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:49.680 information to figure out what it was actually doing fixes for some aspects of 00:10:47.760 --> 00:10:54.959 spectre appear to have been developed already but protecting against the whole range 00:10:52.399 --> 00:11:00.880 of fixes will require modification or at least recompilation of at-risk programs 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:02.880 and that is also a very rough part 00:11:00.880 --> 00:11:06.480 because that brings way more players into the space because now you're 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:11.740 talking about programs too so i think it's fair to say that the only true fix 00:11:08.160 --> 00:11:15.610 is new chip architecture 00:11:15.680 --> 00:11:20.800 um one it depends what we're talking about 00:11:19.040 --> 00:11:24.399 unfortunately the sketchy one that requires the most amount of tinkering 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:27.440 level fixing for the most amount of people is spectre which affects 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:32.560 everybody everybody that has speculative 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:36.000 processing um which so that's that's 00:11:32.560 --> 00:11:37.040 really annoying but you can on a single 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:42.320 system know that you're okay if 00:11:40.079 --> 00:11:47.040 you go through like everything make sure everything has been uh modified or 00:11:44.560 --> 00:11:51.200 recompiled that is affected by this make sure your os level is happy all that 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:54.720 kind of stuff turn on Windows updates guys 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:59.040 at least yeah um 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:03.839 it's this this it's it's it's kind of a nightmare so how did this first get 00:12:01.760 --> 00:12:08.079 discovered do you want to jump us there i know i thought i was the only question 00:12:06.079 --> 00:12:11.200 but i i can clarify some things because you know okay 00:12:09.760 --> 00:12:15.360 so the way this was discovered was through google project zero 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:20.880 project zero is one of those little google subsidiaries that has a 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:24.320 specific task their task is to find what are called zero day bugs or 00:12:22.959 --> 00:12:29.839 vulnerabilities that's where the zero from project zero comes from that's right so basically you're finding a bug 00:12:27.920 --> 00:12:34.399 as soon as you can as fast as you can and fixing it as soon as it's found so 00:12:32.079 --> 00:12:38.880 the way this works is there are bug bounties a certain amount of money put 00:12:36.959 --> 00:12:44.079 up if bugs are found so all these freelancers joe schmoe's hackers 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:47.279 white hats around the world are actively searching for bugs 00:12:45.760 --> 00:12:52.560 among the uh the suite of software and hardware that 00:12:49.920 --> 00:12:57.839 is on project zero's list so a company can say we're on your list we want your 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:59.120 freelancers uh to find bugs for us yeah 00:12:57.839 --> 00:13:04.880 so a person it's a really cool program uh found this vulnerability i believe in 00:13:02.560 --> 00:13:07.680 the summer time actually it's been a bit people have been working on this for a 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:11.600 little while yeah and they notified Intel at the time 00:13:09.680 --> 00:13:15.839 yeah but it's only just become known to the public this week one quick thing 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:20.320 someone in the chat was like idiot this doesn't affect iphones apple has already 00:13:18.079 --> 00:13:26.880 issued um apple has updated both iOS and macOS to 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:30.560 use dual page table mappings i believe 00:13:26.880 --> 00:13:32.399 specifically for spectre yeah so 00:13:30.560 --> 00:13:37.440 it does affect the thing is it's such a low level vulnerability 00:13:34.959 --> 00:13:40.560 that if apple is going to patch it they're doing it at a higher level so 00:13:38.959 --> 00:13:45.200 they're only going to be able to defend 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:47.120 from certain aspects of it yeah well and 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:49.440 there's some nice stuff like we're jumping around all over the place i know 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:55.440 it's gonna be a little bit hard to follow um i would highly recommend checking out 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:58.959 the WAN Show doc on the forum for this reading a few of the different actual 00:13:57.199 --> 00:14:04.320 articles that have been properly posted we're trying to talk live 00:14:02.160 --> 00:14:07.279 the rs article is really good but also with something like this 00:14:05.760 --> 00:14:10.720 you should cross-reference information just to make sure you're getting everything good so if this is affecting 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:16.560 you or you're really interested in this i would definitely recommend diving into it but 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:20.240 people like amazon with s2 instances are pushing updates of their own which is 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:24.399 like handling everything on their side which is really nice um but there's 00:14:22.880 --> 00:14:28.880 that's that's not the case in all situations but sorry continue 00:14:27.199 --> 00:14:31.440 well you continue so what happened after that they found it moving after that the 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:36.800 universities they made a nice white paper about it yeah so universities from 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:40.639 america i remember it because it's 3a countries america austria and australia 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:45.040 boom um oh no it did this thing 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:48.800 randomly when we're doing the WAN Show i get signed out of my google account and 00:14:47.199 --> 00:14:53.279 i have to it's okay i don't actually need it this second i'll get signed in 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:56.000 while i'm talking oh lastpass oh this whole thing you're screwed it's so much 00:14:54.720 --> 00:15:01.680 you're gonna need your yeah and everything now hopefully not we'll see though 00:14:59.920 --> 00:15:09.279 but yeah universities from america australia and austria and google project 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:11.600 zero and people working at microsoft and 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:15.120 google and amazon and all these huge companies all came together to try to 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:20.800 work on this and they've been working on it actually 00:15:17.199 --> 00:15:21.920 for quite a while 00:15:20.800 --> 00:15:27.440 there's this is where we get into 00:15:25.040 --> 00:15:32.480 there's a lot of different information and it's a little bit confusing what 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:38.800 happened next but the public figured out and the public figured out 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:40.639 not that long ago uh the main 00:15:38.800 --> 00:15:44.240 article that really blew up in a lot of people's minds because it was much more 00:15:42.079 --> 00:15:47.760 public-facing i believe was the register article 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:50.480 register.cod at uk which is posted in the landoc if you want to check it out 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:54.800 on the forum that was as far as i know one of the 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:59.759 biggest explosions in terms of more people knowing there was talk about 00:15:57.040 --> 00:16:03.759 it on on more like programmer focused back channels this was a big news outlet 00:16:02.079 --> 00:16:07.759 bringing it on i could be wrong about that it could have been someone else first this is the first one i saw same 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:13.360 and i think it's the first one most people saw 00:16:09.920 --> 00:16:17.120 it got to there as far as i know 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:20.079 because a programmer at AMD 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:25.519 pushed code to the Linux kernel let's see here ah 00:16:23.920 --> 00:16:30.000 yeah so there was an embargo on all this kind of stuff through the google project 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:33.839 zero platform um not everyone agrees with having embargoes on these types of 00:16:31.680 --> 00:16:37.120 things some people position themselves with like all information should be open 00:16:36.079 --> 00:16:42.880 everyone should know everything that's going on um and your opinion on that is 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:48.079 whatever's ease but there was an embargo and it wasn't like technically 00:16:46.079 --> 00:16:53.680 broken i don't know you can frame that however you want um but 00:16:51.920 --> 00:16:58.160 yeah so it says it's true that AMD didn't actually reveal the details of 00:16:55.519 --> 00:17:02.160 the flaw before the embargo was up but one of the company's developers came 00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:06.400 very close and close enough to infer what was actually going on 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:11.520 an AMD developer contributed a Linux patch that excluded AMD chips from the 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:16.160 meltdown mitigation in the note with the patch the developer wrote the AMD micro 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:20.240 architecture does not allow memory references including speculative 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:24.959 references that access higher privileged data when running in a lesser privileged 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:29.280 mode when that access would result in a page fault so with that information 00:17:27.280 --> 00:17:34.400 knowing that people are writing code and it's extremely 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:36.320 important having that basically is like 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:39.280 we are not vulnerable to this and knowing that people are working on 00:17:37.600 --> 00:17:42.799 something very major and he's like excluding themselves from you can kind 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:47.840 of figure out what's going on um but then the guy kind of got uh 00:17:45.760 --> 00:17:51.600 murked by a but wait there's another there's more 00:17:49.600 --> 00:17:56.080 yeah so there's always two this is where the politics part comes in because and 00:17:53.840 --> 00:17:59.520 okay this is where it gets confusing too 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:03.840 because i have also heard that there was stuff at google that was 00:18:01.600 --> 00:18:08.080 leaked there's also been some emails that have been leaked there's been tons 00:18:05.760 --> 00:18:12.480 of different stuff i'm not entirely sure which spark was lit first 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:16.960 this is what i read in the arts technica article there's other stuff that i've 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:21.600 read who knows anyway it got exposed to the public at some point 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:26.640 and from there people started freaking the hell out and that was mostly based 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:30.799 around meltdown that's where we got most of our 00:18:27.919 --> 00:18:33.840 information about meltdown which AMD is essentially 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:36.720 as of right now as far as i know as far as i've seen published everywhere 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:40.240 they're excluded from that they're fine with meltdown and that's why there's a 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:44.799 bunch of confusion even when you google this because there's a timeline here 00:18:41.919 --> 00:18:48.720 where the first part of the media wave was everyone responding to meltdown and 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:53.280 saying like yeah you're going to read articles that say AMD is not affected 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:58.080 it'll say that in bold um but it depends when that was written yeah like the the 00:18:55.200 --> 00:19:00.720 the register article which exposed a lot of this stuff and really started 00:18:59.679 --> 00:19:04.720 exploding things like i was saying earlier specifically says Intel CPU 00:19:03.360 --> 00:19:10.799 design flaw um then there's another one by the 00:19:07.280 --> 00:19:12.640 enquirer that says Intel ARM and AMD all 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:17.200 affected by meltdown and spectre security bypassing CPU design flaw in 00:19:15.280 --> 00:19:20.880 the freaking title so who knows because that one says that AMD is affected by 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:23.520 meltdown but then almost everything else is saying that AMD isn't affected by 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:30.000 meltdown i'm kind of going with the isn't side of things but then this is where it gets 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:32.559 political because AMD goes hahaha we're 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:38.480 not affected where everything's fine and then Intel releases super vague 00:19:35.600 --> 00:19:43.520 really confusing details like uh one of my favorite lines it's it's in the rs 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:48.400 article um the company's initial statement produced 00:19:45.760 --> 00:19:53.520 on wednesday says for example these exploits do not 00:19:51.360 --> 00:19:55.840 have the potential to corrupt modify or delete data 00:19:54.799 --> 00:20:01.360 um which is great because that is completely not the point and no one 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:05.440 claimed that it did any of those things that's like there's another cnbc article 00:20:03.360 --> 00:20:10.000 uh someone in the forum linked where it's like 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:10.000 this doesn't affect NVIDIA 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:18.240 but it's just a relevant title for all those or AMD graphics like all the 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:23.919 non-techie people who just bought NVIDIA's stock because it was going gangbusters this year yeah they're like 00:20:21.360 --> 00:20:28.159 thank god computer stuff we're safe 00:20:25.679 --> 00:20:30.559 yeah so it's it's it's confusing for a lot of people again i would highly 00:20:29.360 --> 00:20:36.159 recommend that you read these articles but we'll do our best to go through stuff but anyways that's where it 00:20:33.919 --> 00:20:39.919 started getting political because AMD is trying to sit over here and be like yes 00:20:37.600 --> 00:20:44.000 it's not us and then Intel's responding to that by being like uh confusing 00:20:41.919 --> 00:20:51.280 statements and then i like that AMD dance you did yeah 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:55.919 but then spectre comes out of nowhere and now it's everybody everybody's 00:20:53.679 --> 00:21:00.320 included everyone who uses speculative processing 00:20:57.120 --> 00:21:02.880 not even just ARM Intel and AMD which is 00:21:00.320 --> 00:21:07.120 all the ones we largely know about but like basically every chipmaker that uses 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:09.590 speculative processing you're screwed lock up your daughters and shoot your 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.840 sons 00:21:11.840 --> 00:21:18.960 that was a grand tough dollar reference yes yeah uh so i want to talk about what 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:24.000 how how affected is the average person here what can they do about it because 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:25.919 i've i have heard slash read that 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:30.240 even though the vulnerability does affect all these chips that we all have 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:33.360 this isn't something that you can really exploit willy-nilly does it take quite a 00:21:32.080 --> 00:21:39.440 bit of work to as far as i know it takes quite a bit of work most random people are not going to 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:43.280 be targets for this as far as i know again this is really early especially 00:21:41.360 --> 00:21:46.960 right now and i'm juggling a lot of different conflicting information but 00:21:45.280 --> 00:21:50.640 especially if right you're adept at exploiting this right now you're going 00:21:48.320 --> 00:21:58.400 to go for the the highest value juicy targets not not for um 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:59.919 bob schwarmez's battlefield 4 gaming pc 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:04.400 i just came up with that name i like it though it's pretty sweet does that make 00:22:02.159 --> 00:22:08.799 that a gamer he's got a restaurant um oh yeah yeah oh i just touched shawarmas 00:22:07.360 --> 00:22:12.480 okay oh nice he gets that all the time yeah 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:16.799 that makes sense yeah anyways yeah like it's it's very unlikely that uh 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:20.720 your personal pc is gonna get attacked it's very unlikely to tie back to that 00:22:19.280 --> 00:22:24.559 dude calling someone an idiot in the twitch chat that your iphone is going to 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:28.559 get attacked but essentially all these processors are susceptible to spectre 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:32.240 there are updates that are coming certain programs are going to have to be 00:22:29.919 --> 00:22:36.400 recompiled or modified those things are going to happen especially for major 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:40.000 mainline programs so we can look forward to a lot of blue 00:22:37.840 --> 00:22:45.440 screens at ces you look forward to a lot of updates um 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:47.760 Windows updates program updates lots of different things are going to be 00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:54.320 updating this is where we're going to tie into what different companies have done 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:57.200 ARM has released a really really nice white paper detailing how it affects 00:22:55.919 --> 00:23:01.360 their processors and all this kind of stuff which is going to be uninteresting 00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:04.480 for almost everybody in this audience because those are 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:08.720 for the most point not consumer level processors and what i mean by that is 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:12.080 not consumer serviceable processors they're things like in your phone or in 00:23:10.320 --> 00:23:17.679 your iot devices or all these other kind of things i doubt that you're 00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:19.200 running a desktop setup that has an ARM 00:23:17.679 --> 00:23:22.799 processor but you know you might be doing something weird 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:27.760 it's possible you could plug in your phone if it's possible it exists yeah it's out 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:32.320 there you could plug in your phone and use like external keyboards and do weird stuff 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:36.640 yeah it's it's i doubt anyone watching has that set up 00:23:34.320 --> 00:23:41.600 but it is possible anyways uh are you ready for this aspect 00:23:39.360 --> 00:23:48.960 oh let's jump let's jump there in a quick moment so so yeah apple is already 00:23:45.120 --> 00:23:50.559 releasing updates for iOS macOS and 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:55.679 dealing with some other crazy things microsoft is going ham the microsoft 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:59.840 section of this article is super long one thing that i really like that they 00:23:57.280 --> 00:24:03.520 did microsoft has already published a powershell script that describes the 00:24:01.760 --> 00:24:08.320 current system protection against meltdown inspector on your computer um 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:12.320 so if you're into powershell if you're comfortable with that 00:24:09.679 --> 00:24:15.440 check out the rs article it's linked in the forum link in the description if 00:24:13.919 --> 00:24:18.880 you're watching this on archive if not i've already posted in twitch chat there 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:22.000 you go and you can check out what's going on on 00:24:20.320 --> 00:24:28.880 your own system they're releasing updates for edge internet explorer 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:30.840 uh Windows itself uh mozilla is trying 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:33.760 to copy some of them 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:39.200 yeah whatever they're trying to copy some of their approaches to different things there's 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:43.679 tons of stuff going on microsoft uh has already updated its azure cloud 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:47.279 computing platform which is awesome i would expect that google was updated 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:50.320 before we even heard about this oh they've been on top of this for a 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:54.559 long time yeah amazon has already started rolling out 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:59.600 patches for ec2 in terms of meltdown 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:05.039 again spectre is going to be weird for all this kind of stuff i'm mostly talking about meltdown uh google's two 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:08.880 consumer facing operating systems Android and chrome os both depend on 00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:13.360 Linux kernels and that's already been being worked on as i mentioned earlier 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:16.400 the AMD guy working on Linux kernels um 00:25:13.360 --> 00:25:18.880 and most and but most Android hardware 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:22.400 and most an Android is a weird thing to think about because 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:28.960 uh there's a lot of really low end Android devices most people don't think about um but 00:25:25.679 --> 00:25:31.679 isn't susceptible to meltdown yet 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:37.120 but that's going to change probably anyways right now it's a huge mess 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:41.039 everything's a mess it's mostly a mess because it was leaked 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:45.120 and when it was leaked everyone had to scramble super hard to solve it instead 00:25:43.840 --> 00:25:48.480 of trying to take their time and be very coordinated 00:25:47.120 --> 00:25:53.600 about everything and very behind the scenes and then one day you just get a Windows update you don't even know 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:57.520 anything was ever wrong um no instead of that everyone's freaking the hell out 00:25:55.120 --> 00:26:03.919 and trying to solve all this at once and speaking of how this was very behind 00:26:00.080 --> 00:26:06.000 doors for a while huh uh Intel ceo sold 00:26:03.919 --> 00:26:09.360 what is it like 49 or 24 million 24 million dollars worth of 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:14.559 stock right so he knew about this google told Intel about this in the 00:26:13.679 --> 00:26:19.120 summer uh so the ceo knew 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:23.039 that they were going to have a fiasco once the public found out about this 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:26.880 he knew the gravity of the situation and then before 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:30.320 this became public he sold 24 million dollars worth of his stock in the 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:35.520 company which was a major i think a majority of his stock 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:39.120 so that doesn't look very good no um 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:41.679 but but i think this is actually kind of clickbaity 00:26:40.320 --> 00:26:45.440 because Intel says that the stock sale was 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:51.200 unrelated to the vulnerability and came as part of a planned divestiture program 00:26:48.320 --> 00:26:54.640 and those things are things they exist um the other thing is Intel stock price 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:59.360 has only fallen about two bucks since 00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:03.279 this fiasco kind of hit the public so that's it's not like it tanked and this 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:08.000 is like a huge insider trading thing granted two dollars like with the number 00:27:05.360 --> 00:27:11.520 of shares outstanding it's still like millions of dollars 00:27:09.360 --> 00:27:14.799 coming and going mostly going from Intel stock right now so it is 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:19.679 it is huge but i think this is a little clickbaity 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:23.440 it's it it really depends um i'm sure there's going to be legal oversight into 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:28.720 this because like man if if 00:27:26.159 --> 00:27:32.640 if that was planned without insider trading and this was 00:27:30.320 --> 00:27:36.799 just routine whatever the timing on that yeah 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:40.799 like you couldn't be worse in the last huge amount of years it could could not 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:45.840 be worse timing so it could be an unfortunate coincidence i think people 00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.919 claiming that it's insider 00:27:45.840 --> 00:27:52.080 are you can't really hammer on them too hard 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:57.039 because there's a lot of things a lot of red lights going off in terms of timing 00:27:54.720 --> 00:28:00.480 in terms of how much it was 24 million dollars is quite a bit of money i also 00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:03.360 read this is why this is so confusing i read a number that was over 40. 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:09.840 um but like i'm not even saying it's right because i just read that like well 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:12.880 actually if this program uh it could be in multiple phases so that was the 00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:16.880 number that went out recently in december so it could be over 40 like 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:23.279 since summer since he's known maybe sure yeah i don't know um 00:28:20.080 --> 00:28:25.360 yeah it's a mess but 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:29.520 potentially looking into his legal ramifications for what that might 00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:33.440 potentially end up being in terms of insider trading or not and i'm sure if 00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:37.360 it was planned he has tons of documentation for it and if it goes back 00:28:35.600 --> 00:28:41.919 before this bug was released to them he's gonna be fine um if it doesn't 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:46.320 that's gonna that's gonna be a little bit if it was planned and it is fine you're probably 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:50.960 not gonna hear about it because no one's gonna click on that article yeah it's just it's gonna be boring it's not a 00:28:49.360 --> 00:28:55.120 story it'll be too boring to bring up on wayne's show you know it's not boring 00:28:53.520 --> 00:28:59.840 until getting sued over this vulnerability super hard yeah there are 00:28:57.600 --> 00:29:05.120 multiple lawsuits uh hold on one quick second before we go forward this article 00:29:02.080 --> 00:29:08.799 was posted by sc2 mitch on the forum the 00:29:05.120 --> 00:29:12.080 previous one was found by james uh and 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:14.720 the big whole entire thread the source 00:29:12.080 --> 00:29:17.760 that we have for that is doctor who 1975 on the forum he's getting the credit but 00:29:16.159 --> 00:29:20.720 there actually are like six i'm sure there's a lot and i'm sure there's going 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:25.039 to continue to be more thank you to everybody who's been posting about this stuff and that's not to say the 00:29:23.520 --> 00:29:29.360 duplicate threads there's just so many facts there's there's and and there's 00:29:27.520 --> 00:29:33.200 conflicting ones and there's ones that grow on other ones and it's a nightmare 00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:37.039 our forum is a happening place if you don't go there you should yeah it's cute 00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:39.600 yeah the people who are suing Intel do you 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:44.880 think so here's the grounds of at least one of them okay the lawsuit this lawsuit 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:49.520 particularly i think it was maybe the first one garcia v Intel corporation 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:54.000 filed on wednesday january 3rd the suits plaintiffs plaintiffs allege 00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:58.480 that the computer chips containing the fatal security flaw well there's a lot 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:02.240 of f's here they violate california and tennessee law specifically the 00:30:00.399 --> 00:30:06.240 plaintiff's spring claims for breach of warranty and violations of consumer 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:10.399 protection statutes alleging that Intel's selling of computer chips with 00:30:08.159 --> 00:30:14.399 this fatal security flaw misled consumers about the performance and 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:20.080 reliability of the computers operating with this hardware 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:22.799 um my first thought like they have a quote here saying that they look forward 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:29.440 to holding Intel responsible for exposing millions of americans to unnecessary data and security risks or 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:32.480 data risks data security risk um that sounds noble it's like yeah 00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:36.799 stick them break them over the coals like someone's fighting a good fight for us but my first thought actually when i 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:41.360 read this was like i think these people might be those like 00:30:39.120 --> 00:30:45.840 professional sewers yeah who are like because there's a very second i can see 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:50.799 there's also there's also constantly security issues with this type of stuff 00:30:48.159 --> 00:30:54.240 it's just usually handled it's usually much smaller 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:59.200 and it's usually handled much more quietly 00:30:55.919 --> 00:31:01.440 um like like if you could sue microsoft 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:06.320 for having a security vulnerability in Windows microsoft would be gone it's 00:31:04.320 --> 00:31:10.399 just it's obviously because of the scale yeah the scale is why this is a big 00:31:07.760 --> 00:31:13.520 headline and a big deal skills and and suitable 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:17.760 yeah someone said it's usually handled by the 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:22.480 nsa i have no freaking idea someone said in the chat uh he sold them shortly 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:26.559 before ime vulnerabilities became public in november uh yeah that's not what we 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:31.279 were talking about though if it was planned 00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:33.760 far beforehand if if if he comes in one 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:37.200 day and board of director guys and his or his financial advisors or whatever 00:31:35.679 --> 00:31:41.440 the heck i don't know i'm not into this kind of money are like hey we should 00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:44.799 downscale our stock whatever that thing that you said um it's not going to 00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:48.559 happen the next day it would be planned on paper for a while 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:53.360 it's he's moving a huge amount of stock it's going to happen over time um 00:31:51.600 --> 00:31:56.480 yeah anyways that's about it for that 00:31:54.960 --> 00:32:00.559 that's we did it i hope we did it 00:31:58.159 --> 00:32:03.760 again there is a huge amount of information 00:32:02.080 --> 00:32:08.159 if we actually wanted to go over every single little tiny bit of it would take 00:32:05.120 --> 00:32:10.240 us the entire show and more uh if you do 00:32:08.159 --> 00:32:13.760 want to know more and if you're into computers and hardware this is super 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:18.480 interesting i would highly recommend you read more come up with your own opinions 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:22.399 about it all that kind of stuff um check out the links that will be in the 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:26.720 forum uh doc thing that i'll be posting that'll 00:32:24.080 --> 00:32:32.559 be in the description on youtube and um yeah good idea on youtube and soundcloud 00:32:29.919 --> 00:32:35.919 and there we go that's it that's the giant 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:41.279 not just Intel definitely everybody but mostly Intel and people are trying to 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:44.880 obscure information and some information is out there and crazy stuff and no 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:48.399 official information completely entirely yet put your head in the sand what can 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:53.600 you do about it really it's probably not going to affect you update Windows live 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:58.159 your life yeah am i right for the most part yeah there is a loud 00:32:55.919 --> 00:33:00.880 minority who's going go you're not you're not 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:05.919 insane it's it's it's definitely affecting some people it's affecting 00:33:02.320 --> 00:33:07.519 Floatplane um and it's it's going to 00:33:05.919 --> 00:33:10.960 affect other kind of businesses 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:14.640 as you've seen google and amazon and microsoft are all tweaking out right now 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00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:32.079 website advertising your services and you have troubles with your site you can 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:36.880 call their i t support or you can uh you can live chat or email their 00:37:34.160 --> 00:37:39.680 live support um and it's only 12 bucks a month you get a free domain if you 00:37:38.160 --> 00:37:43.040 subscribe for a year which is cool because domains you you usually rent 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:48.000 them for a year anyways so if you want the domain for a year you subscribe for a year they come together it's all nice 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:52.640 they have a commerce module so you can use their free online store they have 00:37:50.240 --> 00:37:56.800 cover pages so you can have one nice beautiful page if you want that set up 00:37:55.359 --> 00:38:02.160 or you can even if you want to have some type of blog or something like that you can publish content in apple news format 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:09.680 directly from their blog module which is cool and if you go to squarespace.com forward 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:12.160 slash LTT and use offer code LTT you get 00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:16.400 10 off your first purchase so there you go someone in the twitch 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:25.200 chat was scrolled by it was like what are those glasses these these you fool 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:26.640 you don't even know your own folly 00:38:25.200 --> 00:38:30.560 oh dear all right what do you want to talk about now uh 00:38:28.640 --> 00:38:36.400 some fun stuff here yeah let's go forward pick one i believe oh 00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:41.920 that's boring yeah nah okay screw it if you have an hp if you have an hp laptop 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:46.560 um this is me not talking about this one it might be getting recalled right now 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.839 there's a big list of pro books and zen 00:38:46.560 --> 00:38:52.720 books that are getting recalled because of the battery uh 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:56.720 you can get a free battery fix from hp if you send it back in don't bring it to 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.599 a third party fixer guy because these aren't actually supposed to be user 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:05.760 fixable batteries so give it a google look it up see if your 00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:09.280 hp book or notebook is one of the effective ones 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:12.160 and get that puppy fix it and no reason to bring it to a third party anyways 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.760 because this is a actual recall that hp is asking you to 00:39:14.560 --> 00:39:18.720 contact them about so they should be handling everything yeah yeah so i 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:23.359 wouldn't i wouldn't worry we don't want to have a note 7s situation here just 00:39:20.720 --> 00:39:26.720 yeah don't even send her in yeah yeah that's probably a good idea this one 00:39:24.720 --> 00:39:32.079 next spotify sure 00:39:28.640 --> 00:39:34.079 all right so spotify um they're possibly 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:38.480 on the hook for a 1.6 billion dollar copyright 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:42.720 that's a lot of money why you might ask because they've been 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:46.240 streaming songs without giving money or getting consent from the owners of those 00:39:44.720 --> 00:39:50.720 songs yeah pretty much uh 00:39:48.160 --> 00:39:54.960 so it's what's the name of the company music publishing yeah they've got tom 00:39:52.800 --> 00:40:01.200 petty neil young and rage against the machines tom morello and many more so 00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:03.920 that's some pretty major names 00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:08.240 last summer spotify faced a suggested 43 million settlement which is still yet to 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:12.640 be approved in court and they also agreed to a 30 million 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:17.839 dollar settlement with national music publishers association and mpa for 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.320 unpaid royalties in 2016. so they're just getting 00:40:19.040 --> 00:40:27.440 stomped on you got to license that content bro yeah speaking of music streaming rumor rumor 00:40:25.040 --> 00:40:31.440 has it that youtube are grown youtube is going to launch a 00:40:29.359 --> 00:40:35.440 music streaming surface why you might ask since google play services already 00:40:33.200 --> 00:40:39.839 heard google play music already exists we don't 00:40:36.839 --> 00:40:41.359 know this would actually be the uh 00:40:39.839 --> 00:40:45.760 alphabet the parent company of google and youtube this will be their third 00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:49.119 attempt at at a music service actually um because google play music launched in 00:40:47.680 --> 00:40:53.520 2011 and to my estimation is doing just fine 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:56.400 um but on top of that i use it they had something called uh yeah i just switched 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.839 to it from spotify actually and i am digging that algorithm that's pretty 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:02.960 good of course the algorithm's off yeah of course why would you think that 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:06.319 someone like spotify could beat google who owns youtube youtube by the way 00:41:04.560 --> 00:41:10.480 being the second largest search engine in the world that's bigger than bing 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:15.440 youtube search engines is huge their their algorithm for what to play next 00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:18.560 keeps you on youtube for hours doing not what you noticed 00:41:16.720 --> 00:41:22.000 yeah so obviously their their music algorithm is great you can search a song 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:26.720 and it'll just go for the rest of the night it's awesome oh someone said google play music streaming service has 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:30.160 not supported my company that pisses me off a huge amount but youtube red oh my 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:36.720 goodness i want to watch i think it's called minefield yeah vsauce 00:41:34.640 --> 00:41:39.839 it's on youtube red i can't do the thing yeah they want you that's the teaser 00:41:38.319 --> 00:41:42.880 they give you one episode to watch and then you got a youtube reddit i think i 00:41:41.839 --> 00:41:46.960 might like subscribe temporarily while we're in vegas 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:51.760 and just try to like binge the engine you don't have time yeah 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:56.000 do you if you have time to watch that then that gives me uh 00:41:53.520 --> 00:41:58.480 no i don't um let's go back every time that i go to ces i'm like oh i'm gonna 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:03.119 do all these things i'm gonna bring my personal camera i'm gonna take cool photos i'm gonna do all this kind of 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:07.280 cool extra stuff on the side and then it's like nope you work from like eight 00:42:05.839 --> 00:42:11.599 to like three and then you sleep for a few hours 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:15.520 and then you get back up and keep going i'm really hoping just to eat meals 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:18.800 that's all i want i want to go to vegas and actually be able to hit at least one 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:21.839 buffet you'll probably average one or two a day 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:25.839 yeah okay meals yeah yeah yeah i don't want to just have to eat that sparrow 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:29.520 pizza that's in the convention center the whole time yeah there is okay 00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:33.520 there's some hidden spots in the convention center on floor two teach me 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:36.880 your ways yeah don't tell them don't tell everyone here they won't be hidden 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:43.359 that's a good call so back to the chronology after google play came out in 2011 a thing that i had never heard of 00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:48.880 called youtube music key came along in 2014 which gave subscribers ad-free 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.599 music videos which is awesome because obviously a ton of awesome music and 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:57.280 remixes and everything that are on youtube but you hit play you try to put that on a party and then ads interrupt 00:42:54.960 --> 00:43:01.200 it and you look like a dork um but then youtube 00:42:59.520 --> 00:43:05.920 music key kind of just turned into youtube red 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:10.839 in 2016 yeah which expands to letting you watch any video without advertising 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:16.560 and now it's just kind of like its own thing so so they keep just changing 00:43:14.240 --> 00:43:21.200 stuff in super weird ways this uh service this alleged rumored 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:25.119 service is internally referred to as remix 00:43:22.640 --> 00:43:27.520 um okay it's gonna have on-demand elements uh 00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:32.800 like um a regular like a spotify but it's also gonna have some youtube elements maybe 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.920 like some video clips maybe some lyrics on screen that'd be nice so you can 00:43:34.319 --> 00:43:40.800 already do youtube music videos through google play 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:45.200 music but all right all right i i don't know i think uh part of this might come 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:48.160 from the supply side um apparently some of the 00:43:46.560 --> 00:43:50.560 creators whose music is getting listened to 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.560 through youtube they don't feel like they're getting compensated as as fairly 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:57.839 as they would be on dedicated music streaming services like google play 00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:02.240 music or on spotify so it might be like a money thing 00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:04.319 okay they put it on there but yeah okay 00:44:03.520 --> 00:44:06.720 yeah i guess 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:13.040 you give him an inch i i don't know i don't know yeah um 00:44:11.359 --> 00:44:17.280 that's for deploying this thing uh warner music group is already on board 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:20.720 they're one of the big three yeah in the music business and 00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:24.720 the other two of the three already in talks with youtube that includes sony 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:30.640 music entertainment and universal music group uh they're also talking to merlin 00:44:27.200 --> 00:44:32.319 a consortium consortium of independent 00:44:30.640 --> 00:44:36.400 labels so hopefully they'll have a good spread on content 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:41.200 yeah i like i don't know it'll probably be 00:44:38.640 --> 00:44:45.200 good i it seems weird because it seems like alphabet is now creating things to 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:49.040 compete against themselves yeah um this is like a 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:53.119 hangouts allowed yeah which is so yeah that's a 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:56.880 good call so maybe it's not that weird for them it's because they're they're so 00:44:55.040 --> 00:45:01.680 federated that they don't talk and they step on each other all the time yeah 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:06.160 um anyways going back to the google play music thing one of my favorite things 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:08.079 about it is just how creepy it is 00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:11.520 it'll pull in a lot of data which is unsurprising because it's google so 00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:16.319 it'll like know when you're at the gym yeah yeah you can you can turn on load 00:45:13.680 --> 00:45:20.079 uh locations notifications locations notifications so it's like huh i see 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:24.000 you're in the border lineup i'm going to play gangster rap to make you suck 00:45:24.640 --> 00:45:29.680 yeah um i don't know it's it's 00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:34.880 it's interesting every once in a while i'll just jump into the different playlists that it recommends for me to 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:38.800 try to see where it's trying to take me and sometimes you know it'll go off in 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:42.000 totally a weird direction i'm like i don't like any of this stuff but often 00:45:40.560 --> 00:45:46.640 it's pretty good i've been happy with it because when i i had two problems with 00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:48.319 spotify the first was the discover 00:45:46.640 --> 00:45:52.400 playlist was just totally like stuff i didn't listen to at all 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:56.480 and the the second was now maybe you can do this on certain 00:45:54.079 --> 00:46:00.480 services with spotify but i usually use this with my tv 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:04.240 and my google home and what i want to do is i have a song on this on in my head 00:46:02.560 --> 00:46:07.760 and i'm like i want to play this song and then that's all i want to do and 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:11.680 after that i wanted to just go forever playing related music and google play 00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:15.359 music is wicked at that that's very good at that not only will it play other 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:18.400 songs that you'll like they might not even be from bands you know of yeah i 00:46:17.200 --> 00:46:22.560 started with a nine inch nails song the other day nine snails die hard 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:26.079 the next 10 songs were for bands i never heard of i didn't skip a single one 00:46:23.839 --> 00:46:28.960 they're so sweet nice uh i actually really like doing that sometimes yeah 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:31.760 it's wicked if you try to do this on spotify guess what the second song will 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:37.599 be the second song will be the same song again because 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:40.480 instead of playing the song you search for and then a bunch of related songs it 00:46:39.359 --> 00:46:46.319 will play all the search results so it'll be like 00:46:44.319 --> 00:46:50.079 so you try to put on uh so be like that same song or like 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:54.880 remixed by someone else yeah you try to put on stairway to heaven you get started to heaven then you get live then 00:46:52.640 --> 00:47:00.560 you get cover yeah it's like yes yes spotify this is what i wanted 00:46:58.319 --> 00:47:04.480 no one's ever wanted this i'm gonna hopefully troll at least one 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:08.400 person okay google play that hipster song with 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.680 the whistling okay so that's in one of their 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:16.800 you jerk did it work uh no no dang 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:20.000 oh i should have said with google play music so sometimes it gets confused if 00:47:18.560 --> 00:47:24.960 you don't include that i don't know why but because you can have a different default music player yeah yeah so if you 00:47:23.359 --> 00:47:29.359 have two installed it might have to like ask or whatever but 00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:34.000 you got me it did it yes some people got it okay now let it keep going 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:38.560 you can even mute it and leave it off on the side or whatever but let it keep 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:42.720 going it does a pretty good job and it doesn't continue to play hipster whistle 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:47.760 songs or what do you mean that good job well it continues to play 00:47:45.040 --> 00:47:52.079 hipstery kind of songs but that actually sound kind of similar and fun with the 00:47:50.160 --> 00:47:56.800 same tonality and all these other kind of things it does it does a pretty good 00:47:53.839 --> 00:48:01.760 job i ended up um already cancelled some people are like 00:47:58.640 --> 00:48:03.760 no screw it um someone actually said it 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:06.880 didn't recognize the voice yeah my yeah i've got that recently someone tried to 00:48:05.040 --> 00:48:10.400 troll me and then google was like that doesn't sound like james yeah my 00:48:08.560 --> 00:48:14.480 girlfriend even trying to impersonate my voice couldn't get into my phone using 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:18.240 that's not surprising yeah you know i know but it's just it's it's interesting 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:22.960 it did a pretty good job i would love to hear three devices 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:27.599 some guys said three devices are playing that song in my house right now when i did the there was a previous WAN Show 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:31.839 where i did this a similar command with some weird russian song that goes 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:35.680 yes people people kept tweeting me like man it was it was 1am my whole family is 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:40.800 awake now yeah it's pretty bad we gotta we put a lockdown on that recently okay 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.680 so we're adapting maybe maybe that was bad you did that on purpose yeah i did 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:48.000 it's the accidental ones we're looking out for hey there's actually an amazon 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.280 echo uh topic here we can go right into sure 00:48:48.720 --> 00:48:57.760 so this has to do with amazon trying to monetize and 00:48:54.160 --> 00:48:59.760 place ad units into echo devices so 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:05.200 there's a thread on the forum by man keys who actually pretty much supplied a 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:09.040 lot of almost all of the threads today thank you man thank you very much 00:49:06.720 --> 00:49:12.640 however i kind of think that you're making your title for this is uh fake 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:17.280 news because as far as i read it's not the case that 00:49:15.200 --> 00:49:22.240 your amazon echo is going to be reading out ads 00:49:19.359 --> 00:49:24.960 to you that would be so brutal um as far as i've seen i don't think that's 00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:30.000 what they're trying to do but what they are trying to do is 00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:31.440 have brands be like the sponsored search 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:35.760 results so just like when you google something um if you google new truck 00:49:34.240 --> 00:49:39.760 there's gonna be a ford ad at the top of your search results page right but 00:49:38.240 --> 00:49:44.480 now we're talking about voice so there's no page there's just there's gonna be a 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:47.119 suggested product so if you ask like there's an example here that says 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:51.200 if you ask a-l-e-x-a because we're not trying to 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:54.880 trigger the vocal commands anymore good idea um to add an item to your shopping 00:49:53.760 --> 00:50:00.640 cart it will suggest you buy a particular brand so i think that means like 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:02.880 a-l-e-x-a uh can you add some toothpaste 00:50:00.640 --> 00:50:06.640 to my shopping cart and it'll be like okay i can look for a brand like colgate 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:10.480 would you like that and if you're like no it can find some other stuff but the default 00:50:09.359 --> 00:50:17.200 matters because a lot of people are gonna be like yeah yeah instead of being like no actually i would like sensodyne 00:50:14.640 --> 00:50:21.520 complete because i got a little wimpy teeth 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:24.160 i don't flaws so 00:50:22.319 --> 00:50:26.960 yeah it's that is really 00:50:30.319 --> 00:50:36.559 yeah so apparently it might suggest it based on 00:50:33.839 --> 00:50:41.160 your previous purchasing decisions which is not that bad so that would be a 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:48.079 situation like hey alexa i would like some surface cleaner 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:50.720 and they know that you bought a clorox 00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:54.720 clorox product in the past so they'll say okay do you want 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:59.920 pine saw that kind of makes sense um it's going 00:50:57.520 --> 00:51:03.200 to keep people in a little bubble which is maybe not great but if you're just 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:07.119 trying to order something with a voice command you're probably not trying to shop around you're probably just trying 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:11.200 to stay within your bubble you probably just want the transaction done faster so 00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:14.319 that's maybe not a bad thing um i'd be interested in hearing what other people 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:18.319 have opinions in terms of that if i'm making a purchasing decision that i'm 00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:22.160 even remotely unsure of i always research this is probably for your 00:51:20.160 --> 00:51:25.520 second time buying something yeah right so and and it says that it's going to 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.480 suggest things based on what people have previously bought so if you've already 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:32.559 bought one of these and you're like hey i need some toothpaste and you've been buying the same toothpaste for freaking 00:51:31.359 --> 00:51:37.440 ever and it's like hey do you want the same toothpaste that you've been buying for freaking ever you'll just say yes 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:41.359 and then well that's what we want but now we're talking about that not happening because of sponsored 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:47.040 posts yeah do you want the thing you've always been getting or do you want this new featured 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.680 product that like maybe sucks but they paid money 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:53.200 so that's what is going to be the default yeah 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:58.079 interesting it would be cool if they had a voice 00:51:55.200 --> 00:52:04.839 command for like no i'd like the usual uh the huge you know what i mean 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.839 well like like if you're if you're uh 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:11.920 they might know what you want like the dude at mucho burrito knows my order 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:17.920 um the people at subway over here they know me too yeah it took them like six months 00:52:15.839 --> 00:52:21.119 i have a very simple order i get everything for the veggies like 00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:24.800 everything yeah so it's like they have two decisions anyway they're on it now 00:52:23.200 --> 00:52:29.040 here's my question and i think this is interesting i don't know 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:32.480 i think there's a if you're a glass half full person or a glass half empty person 00:52:30.640 --> 00:52:37.040 you might have two answers here okay is it likely 00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:39.440 that google will also seek to monetize 00:52:37.040 --> 00:52:43.440 in uh similar ways because google has if they already are 00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:48.960 they're the main advertiser in this space right but is it antithetical to 00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:52.160 google's mission statement or corporate culture 00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:56.000 given that they're coming from a place where they're taking the world's 00:52:54.160 --> 00:53:00.480 information and putting down onto one search result page they're giving you 00:52:57.839 --> 00:53:04.640 options it's democratic it's supposed to be based on like the 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:09.040 the link juice of the internet you know the democracy the population 00:53:06.720 --> 00:53:13.119 popularity contest of the internet here um when you get into voice you only get 00:53:11.200 --> 00:53:16.559 one answer so does google do the same thing 00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:20.880 amazon's doing or do they never do that 00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:26.640 i suspect they will i gotta get that green yeah paid 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:28.559 advertising is is google's whole thing i 00:53:26.640 --> 00:53:32.160 would highly sweetest they would i this this is just making me think like we 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:37.680 need more competition for amazon um because like with google situation 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:40.640 what is it going to suggest you buy can you even auto buy things through 00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:44.720 voice with google walmart they have a partnership with walmart 00:53:44.720 --> 00:53:51.599 yeah well i just like it's it's the same situation with amazon where it's just 00:53:49.040 --> 00:53:54.960 some like giant massive company eating everything up 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:59.920 this is going to take more purchasing from other random companies i don't know 00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:04.160 alibaba is coming soon yeah that'll happen well that'll 00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:09.359 usability up here yeah the usability of alibaba is not there compared to amazon 00:54:07.040 --> 00:54:13.680 google has its own shop express yeah come on man 00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:18.880 it's not there i mean like on the same scale in terms of usability um 00:54:16.720 --> 00:54:23.520 trust like if something is a prime product on amazon 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:26.640 um if it's shipped by amazon it's a prime product it's 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:36.880 uh it's a high likeliness that you're going to get it on time that you're going to be able to have an easy time 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:38.800 with returns and warranty and all that 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:42.559 other kind of stuff i i don't know it's it 00:54:40.160 --> 00:54:46.880 it shelters you like most normal stores do and a lot of online situations don't 00:54:45.040 --> 00:54:50.640 do that properly and their shipping sucks and stuff like 00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:54.400 i understand why amazon's where they're at but 00:54:51.680 --> 00:54:56.800 they need better competition one more 00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:01.280 well we got to do flow plans so let's do Floatplane and one more i'm gonna i 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:06.480 don't even know if i can screen share um maybe you did the wrong guy yeah i'm 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:10.319 gonna try that you can find me in the club 00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:14.720 we don't call it that anymore it was full playing club 00:55:13.359 --> 00:55:17.119 come on man um 00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:23.520 it's still not i don't know if we're going to be able 00:55:20.720 --> 00:55:23.520 to show it 00:55:24.720 --> 00:55:30.640 well either way screen sharing is not happy right now 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:34.800 but full plane has a bunch of really cool stuff on it at the moment there's 00:55:32.720 --> 00:55:38.400 even one thing that doesn't happen that much there's a poll 00:55:36.319 --> 00:55:45.520 there's a there's a discussion poll asking you guys how uh you guys want us 00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:46.960 to share ces content on Floatplane 00:55:45.520 --> 00:55:50.559 because there's a few different good questions usually we don't care what you 00:55:48.720 --> 00:55:55.040 think still not working so we will not be able to screen share um oh i bet you 00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:59.359 i know why it's not working and i could fix it if i had more time but i don't 00:55:57.119 --> 00:56:02.880 that's okay um there's yeah there's a poll asking how you guys want us to 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:08.079 share content and essentially the decision was with something like youtube 00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:12.400 we have to time out our releases or youtube's algorithm is gonna be like no 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.319 screw you guys and they're already they're already gonna do that a little 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:19.200 bit because of just the nature of how rapid fire we have to do ces content but we're 00:56:17.680 --> 00:56:24.400 going to do our best to spread it out and make the youtube robot happy um but 00:56:22.319 --> 00:56:28.559 with flow plane whatever it doesn't it doesn't matter we don't 00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:33.359 have to fight any weird algorithm so you guys have so far decided post it in 00:56:30.720 --> 00:56:37.200 the main section and just fire letter writ fire hose let her go so 00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:42.000 right when it's ready we're just gonna post it up you guys gonna get the content a little bit faster it's not 00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:46.960 gonna be the one week window that it normally is because that would be terrible um but it is going to be a 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:50.640 little bit faster in general we're going to get it up to you guys right away it's 00:56:49.200 --> 00:56:54.319 going to be good you can look like a twitter magician 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:59.359 yeah you're going to be in the know this video's coming remember it's going to be 00:56:56.720 --> 00:57:03.839 awesome um on here regardless outside of the pool there is a tech wiki for why is 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:07.119 Windows display scaling so bad i'm excited for that i know a fair amount 00:57:05.359 --> 00:57:11.200 about it because i did the uh surface 00:57:09.200 --> 00:57:14.079 studio review and there's a lot of really interesting information in that 00:57:12.799 --> 00:57:18.240 as to why the screen is the resolution and uh 00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:22.960 aspect ratio and stuff that it is it seems to me like a topic that's like 00:57:20.319 --> 00:57:27.119 yeah it sucks but it has to be this way yeah like you just haven't thought about 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:31.839 it as hard as the engineers it sucks for a reason uh there's the 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:37.920 oneplus 5t review now in white if you haven't seen the ad for that it's been 00:57:35.040 --> 00:57:43.040 everywhere so i'd be surprised there's a flow plane exclusive behind 00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:47.280 the scene uh from right before christmas that just got released so i don't know 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:50.799 got released now but either way it just came out i will not spoil you guys gotta 00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:53.839 see it um so the behind the scenes thing i know some people are 00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:58.079 salty that we don't release this in other places but youtube would destroy 00:57:56.319 --> 00:58:02.480 our search ability if we did that because most people don't care about these things um i think they're awesome 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:08.559 and the people that do care about them are pretty hardcore about it but anyways 00:58:05.040 --> 00:58:12.160 there's the 13 gpus in one pc mining 00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:14.319 adventure part two this is a very large 00:58:12.160 --> 00:58:19.680 departure from the um kind of amateur hour mining adventure 00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:23.200 part one just you know you know there was some comments they were accurate 00:58:21.520 --> 00:58:28.480 we're just you know what but we're moving forward 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:31.440 part two strong return part three 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:34.799 is gonna be even stronger of a return so we're coming at you with some really 00:58:33.040 --> 00:58:40.319 interesting mining adventure videos they're coming pci express 4.0 as fast 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:46.880 as possible john back at it again with the epic videos um an LTT handmade uh 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:51.440 there's an ltvt video of a handmade portable arcade box um nothing 00:58:52.799 --> 00:58:58.319 as far as i know check it out uh super cool and there's also 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:03.200 um some like extra footage from the chiller 00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:07.040 resurrection which is super cool so if you're into that there's extra footage 00:59:05.359 --> 00:59:10.799 the untold story of the chili resurrection again stuff that if we 00:59:09.200 --> 00:59:13.920 threw this on youtube people wouldn't care as much it would hurt the channel 00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:17.839 so we're just throwing it on flow plane for the super hard course and that's it 00:59:15.839 --> 00:59:23.359 we're done moving on to now this weekend there's gonna be another keyboard video 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:25.920 oh a zany keyboard video us i think we almost did every one of 00:59:25.359 --> 00:59:32.559 them zaniness is ending here 00:59:31.040 --> 00:59:35.920 okay we have another one yeah i think so this is a little simple 00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:40.319 guy yeah sure let's just do that unsurprisingly if you think about it 00:59:37.520 --> 00:59:44.240 2017 was the biggest year ever for electric car sales wow i'm super 00:59:42.160 --> 00:59:47.599 surprised actually tell me more there was a time in like in 00:59:46.640 --> 00:59:52.079 the 30s yes like before the model t where 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:55.760 electric cars actually were the main uh had the most market share above 00:59:53.680 --> 00:59:58.960 combustion engines but since then this is the biggest year ever someone asked 00:59:57.200 --> 01:00:02.720 about the dust video i'm going to just say this right now the 01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:05.920 dust video is going to happen i'm going to be in it Linus is going to 01:00:04.319 --> 01:00:09.839 be in it there's possibly other people that'll be in it this is probably not 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:15.440 i don't even know what this is oh this is pretty i understand where you're going with that but no it's uh the dust 01:00:13.520 --> 01:00:19.760 computers are up in the corner i'm not going to be in it guys 01:00:18.160 --> 01:00:24.799 you should just you should just walk through the screen at some point hey 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:27.680 um yeah it is going to happen we haven't filmed it yet 01:00:26.240 --> 01:00:31.680 means it's not going to be filmed to at least after ces so it's going to be at 01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:34.799 least another week until it's filmed but it's going to happen eventually 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:41.040 anyways let me chuck some numbers at you here yeah december marks the 27th 27th 01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:45.440 month of consecutive sales gains for plug-in vehicles 01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:51.440 meaning evs so in 2017 there was nearly 200 000 evs sold in the us 199 826 this 01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:54.839 compares to 100 01:00:53.040 --> 01:00:59.440 158 614 so what is that like a 30 increase 01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:05.440 pretty decent so if you break that down by the top five browns that were sold 01:01:03.200 --> 01:01:10.720 the tesla model s was the number one seller at 27 060. next in line 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:15.119 chevy bolt chevy bolt the the electric version at 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:19.119 twenty three thousand two hundred ninety seven next in line back to tesla it was 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:22.319 the model x twenty over twenty one thousand of those sold 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:26.240 and then what was that i just last i read the last bullet 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:29.200 points okay okay i thought you were like model x no no no no no 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:35.119 no i love the waterline it's got the frunk um 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:39.040 the fourth one was uh the prius prius prime from toyota over twenty thousand 01:01:37.040 --> 01:01:44.720 almost twenty one thousand sold and everyone wants to know how many tesla 01:01:41.359 --> 01:01:47.359 model threes got delivered in 2017 and 01:01:44.720 --> 01:01:52.160 it looks like it was about two thousand about two grand they're doing what a 01:01:49.040 --> 01:01:53.760 thousand a week now uh which is less 01:01:52.160 --> 01:01:57.839 than a previous promise that they'd be doing 5000 a week by the end of the year 01:01:55.200 --> 01:02:03.680 they're now hoping to hit 5000 a week by this summer in terms of production 01:02:00.240 --> 01:02:05.200 estimations that's pretty standard um 01:02:03.680 --> 01:02:09.440 from what we've been able to expect so far is there's the estimation they won't 01:02:07.520 --> 01:02:12.559 hit it but they'll do pretty darn good um and that's cool because they'll 01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:17.839 figure it out eventually there you go 01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:20.720 um someone said in chat stream Labs is 01:02:17.839 --> 01:02:24.640 releasing their own kind of version of obs because obs is open source that is a 01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:28.319 thing i'm going to be screening with that on my personal stream i believe 01:02:26.640 --> 01:02:31.760 Colton is as well but i don't know if i'll end up using it we'll see 01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:36.000 that's another interesting news bit though because if you're into streaming 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:40.960 it streamlines a lot of haha get it streamlines a lot of different stuff 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:42.240 which is cool and uh i think we will see 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:47.599 you guys at sea yes yes we have so far never 01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:52.880 missed a WAN Show at ces so theoretically there will be a WAN Show 01:02:50.319 --> 01:02:55.839 at ces but every single year it's super random 01:02:54.079 --> 01:03:01.839 how it works is super random who's on it is super random where we are is super 01:02:58.160 --> 01:03:03.599 random what time it starts 01:03:01.839 --> 01:03:07.040 not that that's different from normal but it's pretty random it'd be pretty 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:11.839 cool if we did it from a plane like we have wi-fi on the plane the 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:16.400 dope you might even be able to get by with 01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:19.599 like a super crappo resolution if we get like everyone else on the 01:03:17.680 --> 01:03:23.520 plane to not use wi-fi you might be able to get by with a super terrible 01:03:21.200 --> 01:03:27.839 resolution um if you think sitting beside a baby on a plane sucks wait till 01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:31.119 you're beside two podcasters i think it would just get 01:03:29.520 --> 01:03:36.000 rejected from twitch though because the latency 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:39.760 because like i i connected to a game while i was on a plane just to check out 01:03:37.839 --> 01:03:43.920 my latency and it was like quite a few seconds between input 01:03:42.319 --> 01:03:47.440 and what actually happened well we can always do another pre-recorded one like 01:03:45.359 --> 01:03:50.880 this one was oh 01:03:48.799 --> 01:03:54.799 why no i'm joking 01:03:52.640 --> 01:03:59.839 i'm joking it says friday january 5th right there 01:03:58.160 --> 01:04:04.559 oh jk no the joke i gotta go man 01:04:04.799 --> 01:04:13.480 anyways uh i'll see i'll see you guys ces videos ces one 01:04:09.200 --> 01:04:13.480 show next week see you later goodbye