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welcome to the WAN Show the first WAN Show of 2018 and

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uh the last wednesday the last WAN Show of this week

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before ces there we go i forgot what was important yes is gonna happen soon yeah

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that's that's i'm gonna blame my mind scattering on that so who's all going

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because this is your first year it's my first year it's gonna be alex's first

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year alex the greatish yeah it's gonna be Jake's first time uh away from home

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yes away from the nest his mom's driving him to the airport but after that he's a

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free man in vegas 18. i'm going to give her a

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wink from the parking lot there oh yeah a knowing smile

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oh wow um and then so so you alex Jake max

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yeah and then i think that's everyone who hasn't been

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i'm not sure if pelo was there last year or not he's been around there's gonna be

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a pack of us though hey brandon look out was pella at ces last year yes yeah okay

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so it's out so it's all just writers who weren't there last year

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whoa and max coleman was almost here i almost jumped in from the camera right

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all right okay so that's that's what's going on with ces that's going to be

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next week expect a huge torrent of videos to be hitting youtube and

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Floatplane it's going to be insane tons of stuff coming excited and stressed

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you should be already it's a pretty insane experience i have performance

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anxiety on the one hand i'm so stoked because as a kid i i subscribed to xbox

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magazine and they were always talking about going to e3 yeah and i was like oh that's so amazing it's totally different

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sure but i never thought that i'd go to any yes giant conference like that and

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see all this cutting-edge stuff face up cbs is more

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more insanity in terms of like that suits me

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the the people on the floor where you need to go so e3 is nicely contained in

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one building and they're like super way

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more hardcore or at least they were they've loosened it up a little bit

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about who could go so there wasn't a ton of people on the floor and it's all in

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one building this is well early in the earlier days like in the early 2000s it

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was less expensive yes yes and then they tightened it up yeah you should grow

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your beard longer you have so much more wisdom than i do and our beards are the

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same length this doesn't make any sense uh but yeah ces is going to be insane um

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i'll be at ces with a mustache no wisdom your first time all that off yeah no no

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i was like i don't know

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either way what we're going to talk about this week is a lot of Intel stuff a lot of ARM stuff

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a lot of AMD stuff as you guys know uh cpus right now are in kind of a terrible

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spot with meltdown and spectre both going around rampaging things where i'll

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talk about um we're going to talk about what different

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companies are doing to deal with this how it's being dealt with how it might

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affect you how it's affecting other companies different responses that are happening

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due to it all that kind of stuff we're gonna talk about all that kind of stuff and there's a bunch of other interesting

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things as well um like some stuff to do with spotify

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uh and luke's super secret new year's

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resolution well the intro for dramatic effect

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i made that last bit up

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eat about as much sugar as i usually do

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yay sponsored strasbourg for making this

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show viable moving back okay

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let's get into it um i'm going to post

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an rs technica thread it was uh or a

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post uh an article article there we go we'll go with that it's posted by uh

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peter bright it's a very good article thank you peter bright for making a very

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nice concise package this is everything that's going on it's way too long most

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people aren't going to read it grab a coffee and a donut to go through it kind of article there's a lot of information

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this whole story is like an onion with layers yeah so we're going to take

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you through the entire story of how these vulnerabilities were discovered uh

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the what the response from the parties involved was and kind of all the

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insanity that has ensued and is still ensuing today yes so i'm gonna jump

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slightly forward and explain what they are and then we'll jump back to the start

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and explain how it was found and all that kind of stuff okay sense okay and

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jump around a little bit it's gonna be crazy tension so i'm gonna steal some of

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this from rs technica again thank you very much peter bright uh mel so there's

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two main uh vulnerabilities and they're kind of

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related they are kind of related they they source from the same type of uh

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area so jumping to the rs article um

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modern processors perform speculative execution that's where a lot of this is

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based on that is where a processor will assume what needs to be done next and do

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that thing do those calculations and then if it is wrong and that isn't

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what's happening next that is fine it doesn't matter it ditches all that code

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no big deal if it's right then hey it's already done it and it's able to execute

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that thing faster this is a great thing it makes things run a lot faster

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it's not a big deal that it's running some code and coming up with some

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answers and then ditching those answers because it's making a lot of other

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things faster when it does guess correctly pretty much only upside

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yeah this is a property of modern cpus yes

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that would be a reason why spoiler alert

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these these vulnerabilities don't really have as much of an impact on older much

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older chips yeah um so spectre and meltdown

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it perturbs the processor state in detectable ways which is bad that

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essentially when you break that down means that these vulnerabilities can

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watch even though it doesn't have access to

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these code paths these speculative execution code paths it can figure out

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what they're doing which is bad because it gives them more

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information and it could result in more things down the line

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meltdown inspector is what we know of right now so again to break down what

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meltdown and spectre are meltdown it's applicable to every Intel chip made

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for many years i don't think we know necessarily right now actually there is

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a list yeah you should show the list i don't entirely know if the list is you

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the classic meme of wancho which is it's late screen

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sharing is never not prepared and audio doesn't work

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that's awesome um hold on

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anyways there is a list i can post it in the twitch chat so you guys can check it

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out yourselves suffice to say it's basically every Intel trip for the last

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15 years yeah kind of a big deal and it's going to affect different chips in

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different ways which is another interesting part newer chips have

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certain standards which will actually help them deal with this um a little bit

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so certain programs are going to get hit by this really heavily

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microsoft has found i will go into that more later but microsoft has found that

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certain antiviruses have been using things in undocumented ways that utilize

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this type of stuff so when they try to turn

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it off again we're going to get into that more later i'm trying to be vague because we'll go more deeply into that

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later uh it causes problems for the antivirus programs which is a nightmare

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but anyways it's all it's all a whole mess but basically a verbal table of contents

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every Intel chip for many years listed in the twitch chat um and will be in the

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dock if you access the forum so if you're watching

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this on youtube or you're listening to this on soundcloud which a few people do

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it does actually happen some people do listen to this on soundcloud uh you can

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that'll show the doc and in the doc there will be a link with all capital

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letters that says list of affected Intel cpus anyways moving on every Intel chip

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performance ARM designs this flaw depends on the way that

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operating systems share memory between user programs and the kernel and the

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solution right now um carries some

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performance penalty in certain cases really brutal ones i believe the highest

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reporter that i've seen is about 30 percent yeah but i think that's more

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anonymous it's usually i think it's usually especially if i have a newer CPU

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it's about five percent yeah yeah it's no very rarely that bad it's also only

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certain processes and programs that are gonna get affected by it and it's also

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less as impactful if you have newer chips and it's going to depend on what you're doing too i've heard in gaming it

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can be it can result in like three frames

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per second yeah fbs so yeah but it really is gonna depend

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um but the the answer to this is to put an

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end to that sharing of memory between user programs

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and the kernel which is why there's that performance penalty and then spectre um

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this is where some of the confusion came in that we're going to talk about soon where uh AMD didn't think they were

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susceptible to anything and then now it's just Intel's susceptible to more

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stuff and everyone's susceptible to some things and each company is trying to

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minimize what are the the optics yeah like

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AMD said this is a near zero chance of affecting us and and Intel doesn't want

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their stock to drop so they're saying yes it does affect you yeah yeah it's a

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lot of politics involved as well there's a huge amount of politics in this we'll

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yeah it even says Intel AMD ARM and probably every other processor on the

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market that offers speculative execution which is like all of them um

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memory within single processes which can be used to attack the integrity of

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virtual machines and sandboxes which is rough that's a big deal for the

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cloud yeah um and and cross process

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attacks using processors branch predictors which is the thing that i was

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mentioning earlier where it can uh take little bits of resulting

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information to figure out what it was actually doing fixes for some aspects of

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spectre appear to have been developed already but protecting against the whole range

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of fixes will require modification or at least recompilation of at-risk programs

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and that is also a very rough part

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because that brings way more players into the space because now you're

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talking about programs too so i think it's fair to say that the only true fix

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unfortunately the sketchy one that requires the most amount of tinkering

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level fixing for the most amount of people is spectre which affects

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everybody everybody that has speculative

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processing um which so that's that's

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really annoying but you can on a single

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system know that you're okay if

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you go through like everything make sure everything has been uh modified or

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recompiled that is affected by this make sure your os level is happy all that

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kind of stuff turn on Windows updates guys

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it's this this it's it's it's kind of a nightmare so how did this first get

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discovered do you want to jump us there i know i thought i was the only question

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but i i can clarify some things because you know okay

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so the way this was discovered was through google project zero

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project zero is one of those little google subsidiaries that has a

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specific task their task is to find what are called zero day bugs or

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vulnerabilities that's where the zero from project zero comes from that's right so basically you're finding a bug

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as soon as you can as fast as you can and fixing it as soon as it's found so

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the way this works is there are bug bounties a certain amount of money put

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up if bugs are found so all these freelancers joe schmoe's hackers

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white hats around the world are actively searching for bugs

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among the uh the suite of software and hardware that

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freelancers uh to find bugs for us yeah

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so a person it's a really cool program uh found this vulnerability i believe in

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the summer time actually it's been a bit people have been working on this for a

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little while yeah and they notified Intel at the time

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yeah but it's only just become known to the public this week one quick thing

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someone in the chat was like idiot this doesn't affect iphones apple has already

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issued um apple has updated both iOS and macOS to

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use dual page table mappings i believe

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specifically for spectre yeah so

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it does affect the thing is it's such a low level vulnerability

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that if apple is going to patch it they're doing it at a higher level so

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they're only going to be able to defend

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from certain aspects of it yeah well and

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there's some nice stuff like we're jumping around all over the place i know

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it's gonna be a little bit hard to follow um i would highly recommend checking out

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the WAN Show doc on the forum for this reading a few of the different actual

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articles that have been properly posted we're trying to talk live

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the rs article is really good but also with something like this

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you should cross-reference information just to make sure you're getting everything good so if this is affecting

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you or you're really interested in this i would definitely recommend diving into it but

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people like amazon with s2 instances are pushing updates of their own which is

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like handling everything on their side which is really nice um but there's

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that's that's not the case in all situations but sorry continue

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well you continue so what happened after that they found it moving after that the

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universities they made a nice white paper about it yeah so universities from

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america i remember it because it's 3a countries america austria and australia

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boom um oh no it did this thing

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randomly when we're doing the WAN Show i get signed out of my google account and

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i have to it's okay i don't actually need it this second i'll get signed in

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while i'm talking oh lastpass oh this whole thing you're screwed it's so much

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you're gonna need your yeah and everything now hopefully not we'll see though

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but yeah universities from america australia and austria and google project

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zero and people working at microsoft and

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google and amazon and all these huge companies all came together to try to

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work on this and they've been working on it actually

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there's this is where we get into

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there's a lot of different information and it's a little bit confusing what

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not that long ago uh the main

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article that really blew up in a lot of people's minds because it was much more

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public-facing i believe was the register article

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register.cod at uk which is posted in the landoc if you want to check it out

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on the forum that was as far as i know one of the

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biggest explosions in terms of more people knowing there was talk about

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it on on more like programmer focused back channels this was a big news outlet

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bringing it on i could be wrong about that it could have been someone else first this is the first one i saw same

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and i think it's the first one most people saw

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it got to there as far as i know

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because a programmer at AMD

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pushed code to the Linux kernel let's see here ah

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yeah so there was an embargo on all this kind of stuff through the google project

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zero platform um not everyone agrees with having embargoes on these types of

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things some people position themselves with like all information should be open

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everyone should know everything that's going on um and your opinion on that is

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whatever's ease but there was an embargo and it wasn't like technically

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broken i don't know you can frame that however you want um but

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yeah so it says it's true that AMD didn't actually reveal the details of

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the flaw before the embargo was up but one of the company's developers came

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very close and close enough to infer what was actually going on

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an AMD developer contributed a Linux patch that excluded AMD chips from the

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meltdown mitigation in the note with the patch the developer wrote the AMD micro

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architecture does not allow memory references including speculative

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references that access higher privileged data when running in a lesser privileged

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mode when that access would result in a page fault so with that information

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knowing that people are writing code and it's extremely

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important having that basically is like

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we are not vulnerable to this and knowing that people are working on

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something very major and he's like excluding themselves from you can kind

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of figure out what's going on um but then the guy kind of got uh

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murked by a but wait there's another there's more

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yeah so there's always two this is where the politics part comes in because and

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okay this is where it gets confusing too

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because i have also heard that there was stuff at google that was

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leaked there's also been some emails that have been leaked there's been tons

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of different stuff i'm not entirely sure which spark was lit first

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this is what i read in the arts technica article there's other stuff that i've

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read who knows anyway it got exposed to the public at some point

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and from there people started freaking the hell out and that was mostly based

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around meltdown that's where we got most of our

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information about meltdown which AMD is essentially

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as of right now as far as i know as far as i've seen published everywhere

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they're excluded from that they're fine with meltdown and that's why there's a

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bunch of confusion even when you google this because there's a timeline here

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where the first part of the media wave was everyone responding to meltdown and

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saying like yeah you're going to read articles that say AMD is not affected

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it'll say that in bold um but it depends when that was written yeah like the the

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the register article which exposed a lot of this stuff and really started

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exploding things like i was saying earlier specifically says Intel CPU

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design flaw um then there's another one by the

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enquirer that says Intel ARM and AMD all

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affected by meltdown and spectre security bypassing CPU design flaw in

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the freaking title so who knows because that one says that AMD is affected by

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meltdown but then almost everything else is saying that AMD isn't affected by

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meltdown i'm kind of going with the isn't side of things but then this is where it gets

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political because AMD goes hahaha we're

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not affected where everything's fine and then Intel releases super vague

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really confusing details like uh one of my favorite lines it's it's in the rs

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article um the company's initial statement produced

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on wednesday says for example these exploits do not

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have the potential to corrupt modify or delete data

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um which is great because that is completely not the point and no one

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claimed that it did any of those things that's like there's another cnbc article

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uh someone in the forum linked where it's like

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this doesn't affect NVIDIA

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but it's just a relevant title for all those or AMD graphics like all the

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non-techie people who just bought NVIDIA's stock because it was going gangbusters this year yeah they're like

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thank god computer stuff we're safe

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yeah so it's it's it's confusing for a lot of people again i would highly

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recommend that you read these articles but we'll do our best to go through stuff but anyways that's where it

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started getting political because AMD is trying to sit over here and be like yes

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it's not us and then Intel's responding to that by being like uh confusing

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statements and then i like that AMD dance you did yeah

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but then spectre comes out of nowhere and now it's everybody everybody's

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included everyone who uses speculative processing

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not even just ARM Intel and AMD which is

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all the ones we largely know about but like basically every chipmaker that uses

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speculative processing you're screwed lock up your daughters and shoot your

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sons

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that was a grand tough dollar reference yes yeah uh so i want to talk about what

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how how affected is the average person here what can they do about it because

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i've i have heard slash read that

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even though the vulnerability does affect all these chips that we all have

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this isn't something that you can really exploit willy-nilly does it take quite a

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bit of work to as far as i know it takes quite a bit of work most random people are not going to

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be targets for this as far as i know again this is really early especially

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right now and i'm juggling a lot of different conflicting information but

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especially if right you're adept at exploiting this right now you're going

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to go for the the highest value juicy targets not not for um

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bob schwarmez's battlefield 4 gaming pc

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i just came up with that name i like it though it's pretty sweet does that make

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that a gamer he's got a restaurant um oh yeah yeah oh i just touched shawarmas

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okay oh nice he gets that all the time yeah

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that makes sense yeah anyways yeah like it's it's very unlikely that uh

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your personal pc is gonna get attacked it's very unlikely to tie back to that

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dude calling someone an idiot in the twitch chat that your iphone is going to

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get attacked but essentially all these processors are susceptible to spectre

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there are updates that are coming certain programs are going to have to be

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recompiled or modified those things are going to happen especially for major

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mainline programs so we can look forward to a lot of blue

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screens at ces you look forward to a lot of updates um

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Windows updates program updates lots of different things are going to be

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updating this is where we're going to tie into what different companies have done

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ARM has released a really really nice white paper detailing how it affects

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their processors and all this kind of stuff which is going to be uninteresting

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for almost everybody in this audience because those are

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for the most point not consumer level processors and what i mean by that is

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not consumer serviceable processors they're things like in your phone or in

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your iot devices or all these other kind of things i doubt that you're

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running a desktop setup that has an ARM

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processor but you know you might be doing something weird

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it's possible you could plug in your phone if it's possible it exists yeah it's out

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there you could plug in your phone and use like external keyboards and do weird stuff

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yeah it's it's i doubt anyone watching has that set up

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but it is possible anyways uh are you ready for this aspect

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oh let's jump let's jump there in a quick moment so so yeah apple is already

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releasing updates for iOS macOS and

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dealing with some other crazy things microsoft is going ham the microsoft

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section of this article is super long one thing that i really like that they

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did microsoft has already published a powershell script that describes the

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current system protection against meltdown inspector on your computer um

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so if you're into powershell if you're comfortable with that

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check out the rs article it's linked in the forum link in the description if

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you're watching this on archive if not i've already posted in twitch chat there

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you go and you can check out what's going on on

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your own system they're releasing updates for edge internet explorer

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uh Windows itself uh mozilla is trying

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to copy some of them

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yeah whatever they're trying to copy some of their approaches to different things there's

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tons of stuff going on microsoft uh has already updated its azure cloud

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computing platform which is awesome i would expect that google was updated

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before we even heard about this oh they've been on top of this for a

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long time yeah amazon has already started rolling out

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patches for ec2 in terms of meltdown

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again spectre is going to be weird for all this kind of stuff i'm mostly talking about meltdown uh google's two

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consumer facing operating systems Android and chrome os both depend on

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Linux kernels and that's already been being worked on as i mentioned earlier

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the AMD guy working on Linux kernels um

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and most and but most Android hardware

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and most an Android is a weird thing to think about because

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uh there's a lot of really low end Android devices most people don't think about um but

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isn't susceptible to meltdown yet

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but that's going to change probably anyways right now it's a huge mess

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everything's a mess it's mostly a mess because it was leaked

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and when it was leaked everyone had to scramble super hard to solve it instead

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of trying to take their time and be very coordinated

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about everything and very behind the scenes and then one day you just get a Windows update you don't even know

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anything was ever wrong um no instead of that everyone's freaking the hell out

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and trying to solve all this at once and speaking of how this was very behind

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doors for a while huh uh Intel ceo sold

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what is it like 49 or 24 million 24 million dollars worth of

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stock right so he knew about this google told Intel about this in the

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summer uh so the ceo knew

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that they were going to have a fiasco once the public found out about this

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he knew the gravity of the situation and then before

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this became public he sold 24 million dollars worth of his stock in the

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company which was a major i think a majority of his stock

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so that doesn't look very good no um

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but but i think this is actually kind of clickbaity

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because Intel says that the stock sale was

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unrelated to the vulnerability and came as part of a planned divestiture program

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and those things are things they exist um the other thing is Intel stock price

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has only fallen about two bucks since

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this fiasco kind of hit the public so that's it's not like it tanked and this

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is like a huge insider trading thing granted two dollars like with the number

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of shares outstanding it's still like millions of dollars

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coming and going mostly going from Intel stock right now so it is

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it is huge but i think this is a little clickbaity

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it's it it really depends um i'm sure there's going to be legal oversight into

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this because like man if if

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if that was planned without insider trading and this was

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just routine whatever the timing on that yeah

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like you couldn't be worse in the last huge amount of years it could could not

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be worse timing so it could be an unfortunate coincidence i think people

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claiming that it's insider

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are you can't really hammer on them too hard

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because there's a lot of things a lot of red lights going off in terms of timing

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in terms of how much it was 24 million dollars is quite a bit of money i also

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read this is why this is so confusing i read a number that was over 40.

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um but like i'm not even saying it's right because i just read that like well

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actually if this program uh it could be in multiple phases so that was the

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number that went out recently in december so it could be over 40 like

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since summer since he's known maybe sure yeah i don't know um

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yeah it's a mess but

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potentially looking into his legal ramifications for what that might

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potentially end up being in terms of insider trading or not and i'm sure if

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it was planned he has tons of documentation for it and if it goes back

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before this bug was released to them he's gonna be fine um if it doesn't

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that's gonna that's gonna be a little bit if it was planned and it is fine you're probably

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not gonna hear about it because no one's gonna click on that article yeah it's just it's gonna be boring it's not a

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story it'll be too boring to bring up on wayne's show you know it's not boring

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until getting sued over this vulnerability super hard yeah there are

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multiple lawsuits uh hold on one quick second before we go forward this article

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was posted by sc2 mitch on the forum the

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previous one was found by james uh and

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the big whole entire thread the source

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that we have for that is doctor who 1975 on the forum he's getting the credit but

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there actually are like six i'm sure there's a lot and i'm sure there's going

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to continue to be more thank you to everybody who's been posting about this stuff and that's not to say the

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duplicate threads there's just so many facts there's there's and and there's

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conflicting ones and there's ones that grow on other ones and it's a nightmare

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our forum is a happening place if you don't go there you should yeah it's cute

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yeah the people who are suing Intel do you

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think so here's the grounds of at least one of them okay the lawsuit this lawsuit

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particularly i think it was maybe the first one garcia v Intel corporation

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filed on wednesday january 3rd the suits plaintiffs plaintiffs allege

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that the computer chips containing the fatal security flaw well there's a lot

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of f's here they violate california and tennessee law specifically the

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plaintiff's spring claims for breach of warranty and violations of consumer

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protection statutes alleging that Intel's selling of computer chips with

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this fatal security flaw misled consumers about the performance and

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reliability of the computers operating with this hardware

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um my first thought like they have a quote here saying that they look forward

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to holding Intel responsible for exposing millions of americans to unnecessary data and security risks or

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data risks data security risk um that sounds noble it's like yeah

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stick them break them over the coals like someone's fighting a good fight for us but my first thought actually when i

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read this was like i think these people might be those like

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professional sewers yeah who are like because there's a very second i can see

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there's also there's also constantly security issues with this type of stuff

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it's just usually handled it's usually much smaller

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and it's usually handled much more quietly

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um like like if you could sue microsoft

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for having a security vulnerability in Windows microsoft would be gone it's

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just it's obviously because of the scale yeah the scale is why this is a big

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headline and a big deal skills and and suitable

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yeah someone said it's usually handled by the

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nsa i have no freaking idea someone said in the chat uh he sold them shortly

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before ime vulnerabilities became public in november uh yeah that's not what we

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were talking about though if it was planned

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far beforehand if if if he comes in one

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day and board of director guys and his or his financial advisors or whatever

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the heck i don't know i'm not into this kind of money are like hey we should

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downscale our stock whatever that thing that you said um it's not going to

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happen the next day it would be planned on paper for a while

455
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:53,360
it's he's moving a huge amount of stock it's going to happen over time um

456
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,480
yeah anyways that's about it for that

457
00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,559
that's we did it i hope we did it

458
00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:03,760
again there is a huge amount of information

459
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:08,159
if we actually wanted to go over every single little tiny bit of it would take

460
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,240
us the entire show and more uh if you do

461
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:13,760
want to know more and if you're into computers and hardware this is super

462
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,480
interesting i would highly recommend you read more come up with your own opinions

463
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:22,399
about it all that kind of stuff um check out the links that will be in the

464
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:26,720
forum uh doc thing that i'll be posting that'll

465
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:32,559
be in the description on youtube and um yeah good idea on youtube and soundcloud

466
00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:35,919
and there we go that's it that's the giant

467
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:41,279
not just Intel definitely everybody but mostly Intel and people are trying to

468
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obscure information and some information is out there and crazy stuff and no

469
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official information completely entirely yet put your head in the sand what can

470
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you do about it really it's probably not going to affect you update Windows live

471
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your life yeah am i right for the most part yeah there is a loud

472
00:32:55,919 --> 00:33:00,880
minority who's going go you're not you're not

473
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insane it's it's it's definitely affecting some people it's affecting

474
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Floatplane um and it's it's going to

475
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affect other kind of businesses

476
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as you've seen google and amazon and microsoft are all tweaking out right now

477
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um yeah anyways and now a word from our

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479
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480
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all right well there just isn't one how's it going um freshbooks is the

481
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small business accounting software that you need if you want to do awesome stuff

482
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like uh like what run a vps hosting company hmm

483
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or or uh run two vps hosting companies or

484
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run a dog grooming shop or a plumbing company any any like i know a lot of

485
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people in the audience run small scale uh computer hardware technician service

486
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companies i know i did when i was younger going around doing small scale

487
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i.t work for some businesses and building computers for people and doing

488
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it stuff around as much as i could while i was going to school because the hours

489
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were all nice and flexible because you're working for yourself and you can

490
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often just remote into machines and fix them from home and all that kind of stuff

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it's great and you can manage the invoices and finances that are a

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super helpful because you don't want to spend all your time while you could be

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studying or working or doing other more productive things uh chasing people down

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for invoices it does it for you which is great you can set up online payments

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with just a couple clicks which is awesome and you can get paid up to four days faster which is super cool

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so yeah stop the guessing games get paid for an unrestricted 30-day free trial go

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about a section freshbooks is great and moving on

502
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if you are doing what i just said running a

503
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small scale it business thing you might

504
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,960
want to bring a laptop somewhere and have that hooked up and be able to use

505
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,359
your laptop and the other computer all at once or there's tons of other use

506
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,720
cases for this say you go to work and when you're at work you work on a laptop

507
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,839
i know i was at the twitch offices we're on twitch right now is that the twitch

508
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,359
offices not that long ago a lot of people worked on laptops there you'd be

509
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,480
able to pick up your laptop from work where it's connected into the monitors

510
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:38,160
and all nicely hooked up bring it home put that on a dock or something like

511
00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:41,920
just i have a little laptop holding ARM plug it into power or whatever and over

512
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:45,280
the network your keyboard or mouse will connect from your main computer to your

513
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,400
laptop what are you talking about you can drag and drop documents what

514
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:54,880
business are you even talking about synergy you didn't say that yet i did synergy

515
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two synergy two the sequel yeah this is synergy two not synergy one

516
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um synergy two instead of just having all

517
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,720
the awesome stuff that synergy one has and it has as well with it like mouse

518
00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:10,800
and keyboard going from computer to computer uh like being able to drag and

519
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drop files it working over the network so you don't have to plug them into usb

520
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:18,079
or anything you just have to be on the same network it also has stuff like

521
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cloud bridge so it can work across vpns and tricky home networks if you have a

522
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weird setup and if you get the pro version you get to access other cool

523
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features like clipboard sharing drag and drop files copy and pasting lock screen

524
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sync and tons more which is great it has ssl encryption which is nice you're not

525
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going to get jacked into all the time share anywhere automatically control any

526
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computer without reconfiguring which is really nice one thing that synergy 2 is

527
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apparently a lot better at is detecting computers

528
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:51,440
which is nice because synergy was a little bit harder to set up before oh it

529
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should be easier now yeah so you can go to um this link right here

530
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seamless dot com slash synergy wan three

531
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specifically that three there is important

532
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and save 50 when you do that oh wow really oh yeah

533
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not bad say 50 okay um and then last but not least we have

534
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squarespace we've had squarespace for a long time they have 24 7 live chat and

535
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email support so if you're running your little it business thing you have

536
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:27,119
synergy you have freshbooks all that is running nicely and you have your little

537
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website advertising your services and you have troubles with your site you can

538
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call their i t support or you can uh you can live chat or email their

539
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live support um and it's only 12 bucks a month you get a free domain if you

540
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subscribe for a year which is cool because domains you you usually rent

541
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:48,000
them for a year anyways so if you want the domain for a year you subscribe for a year they come together it's all nice

542
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:52,640
they have a commerce module so you can use their free online store they have

543
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:56,800
cover pages so you can have one nice beautiful page if you want that set up

544
00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:02,160
or you can even if you want to have some type of blog or something like that you can publish content in apple news format

545
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directly from their blog module which is cool and if you go to squarespace.com forward

546
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slash LTT and use offer code LTT you get

547
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10 off your first purchase so there you go someone in the twitch

548
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:25,200
chat was scrolled by it was like what are those glasses these these you fool

549
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,640
you don't even know your own folly

550
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:30,560
oh dear all right what do you want to talk about now uh

551
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:36,400
some fun stuff here yeah let's go forward pick one i believe oh

552
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:41,920
that's boring yeah nah okay screw it if you have an hp if you have an hp laptop

553
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:46,560
um this is me not talking about this one it might be getting recalled right now

554
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,839
there's a big list of pro books and zen

555
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,720
books that are getting recalled because of the battery uh

556
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:56,720
you can get a free battery fix from hp if you send it back in don't bring it to

557
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,599
a third party fixer guy because these aren't actually supposed to be user

558
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:05,760
fixable batteries so give it a google look it up see if your

559
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:09,280
hp book or notebook is one of the effective ones

560
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,160
and get that puppy fix it and no reason to bring it to a third party anyways

561
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,760
because this is a actual recall that hp is asking you to

562
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,720
contact them about so they should be handling everything yeah yeah so i

563
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:23,359
wouldn't i wouldn't worry we don't want to have a note 7s situation here just

564
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:26,720
yeah don't even send her in yeah yeah that's probably a good idea this one

565
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:32,079
next spotify sure

566
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,079
all right so spotify um they're possibly

567
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:38,480
on the hook for a 1.6 billion dollar copyright

568
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,720
that's a lot of money why you might ask because they've been

569
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:46,240
streaming songs without giving money or getting consent from the owners of those

570
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:50,720
songs yeah pretty much uh

571
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:54,960
so it's what's the name of the company music publishing yeah they've got tom

572
00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:01,200
petty neil young and rage against the machines tom morello and many more so

573
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:03,920
that's some pretty major names

574
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:08,240
last summer spotify faced a suggested 43 million settlement which is still yet to

575
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:12,640
be approved in court and they also agreed to a 30 million

576
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:17,839
dollar settlement with national music publishers association and mpa for

577
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,320
unpaid royalties in 2016. so they're just getting

578
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:27,440
stomped on you got to license that content bro yeah speaking of music streaming rumor rumor

579
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:31,440
has it that youtube are grown youtube is going to launch a

580
00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:35,440
music streaming surface why you might ask since google play services already

581
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:39,839
heard google play music already exists we don't

582
00:40:36,839 --> 00:40:41,359
know this would actually be the uh

583
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:45,760
alphabet the parent company of google and youtube this will be their third

584
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:49,119
attempt at at a music service actually um because google play music launched in

585
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,520
2011 and to my estimation is doing just fine

586
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:56,400
um but on top of that i use it they had something called uh yeah i just switched

587
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,839
to it from spotify actually and i am digging that algorithm that's pretty

588
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,960
good of course the algorithm's off yeah of course why would you think that

589
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,319
someone like spotify could beat google who owns youtube youtube by the way

590
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,480
being the second largest search engine in the world that's bigger than bing

591
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:15,440
youtube search engines is huge their their algorithm for what to play next

592
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,560
keeps you on youtube for hours doing not what you noticed

593
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:22,000
yeah so obviously their their music algorithm is great you can search a song

594
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:26,720
and it'll just go for the rest of the night it's awesome oh someone said google play music streaming service has

595
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,160
not supported my company that pisses me off a huge amount but youtube red oh my

596
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:36,720
goodness i want to watch i think it's called minefield yeah vsauce

597
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,839
it's on youtube red i can't do the thing yeah they want you that's the teaser

598
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:42,880
they give you one episode to watch and then you got a youtube reddit i think i

599
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:46,960
might like subscribe temporarily while we're in vegas

600
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,760
and just try to like binge the engine you don't have time yeah

601
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:56,000
do you if you have time to watch that then that gives me uh

602
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,480
no i don't um let's go back every time that i go to ces i'm like oh i'm gonna

603
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:03,119
do all these things i'm gonna bring my personal camera i'm gonna take cool photos i'm gonna do all this kind of

604
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:07,280
cool extra stuff on the side and then it's like nope you work from like eight

605
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:11,599
to like three and then you sleep for a few hours

606
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,520
and then you get back up and keep going i'm really hoping just to eat meals

607
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:18,800
that's all i want i want to go to vegas and actually be able to hit at least one

608
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,839
buffet you'll probably average one or two a day

609
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,839
yeah okay meals yeah yeah yeah i don't want to just have to eat that sparrow

610
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,520
pizza that's in the convention center the whole time yeah there is okay

611
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,520
there's some hidden spots in the convention center on floor two teach me

612
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,880
your ways yeah don't tell them don't tell everyone here they won't be hidden

613
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:43,359
that's a good call so back to the chronology after google play came out in 2011 a thing that i had never heard of

614
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:48,880
called youtube music key came along in 2014 which gave subscribers ad-free

615
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,599
music videos which is awesome because obviously a ton of awesome music and

616
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:57,280
remixes and everything that are on youtube but you hit play you try to put that on a party and then ads interrupt

617
00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:01,200
it and you look like a dork um but then youtube

618
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:05,920
music key kind of just turned into youtube red

619
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:10,839
in 2016 yeah which expands to letting you watch any video without advertising

620
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:16,560
and now it's just kind of like its own thing so so they keep just changing

621
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:21,200
stuff in super weird ways this uh service this alleged rumored

622
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:25,119
service is internally referred to as remix

623
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,520
um okay it's gonna have on-demand elements uh

624
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,800
like um a regular like a spotify but it's also gonna have some youtube elements maybe

625
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,920
like some video clips maybe some lyrics on screen that'd be nice so you can

626
00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:40,800
already do youtube music videos through google play

627
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:45,200
music but all right all right i i don't know i think uh part of this might come

628
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:48,160
from the supply side um apparently some of the

629
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,560
creators whose music is getting listened to

630
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:54,560
through youtube they don't feel like they're getting compensated as as fairly

631
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,839
as they would be on dedicated music streaming services like google play

632
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:02,240
music or on spotify so it might be like a money thing

633
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:04,319
okay they put it on there but yeah okay

634
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,720
yeah i guess

635
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:13,040
you give him an inch i i don't know i don't know yeah um

636
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:17,280
that's for deploying this thing uh warner music group is already on board

637
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,720
they're one of the big three yeah in the music business and

638
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,720
the other two of the three already in talks with youtube that includes sony

639
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:30,640
music entertainment and universal music group uh they're also talking to merlin

640
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,319
a consortium consortium of independent

641
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,400
labels so hopefully they'll have a good spread on content

642
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:41,200
yeah i like i don't know it'll probably be

643
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:45,200
good i it seems weird because it seems like alphabet is now creating things to

644
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:49,040
compete against themselves yeah um this is like a

645
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:53,119
hangouts allowed yeah which is so yeah that's a

646
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,880
good call so maybe it's not that weird for them it's because they're they're so

647
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:01,680
federated that they don't talk and they step on each other all the time yeah

648
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:06,160
um anyways going back to the google play music thing one of my favorite things

649
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,079
about it is just how creepy it is

650
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,520
it'll pull in a lot of data which is unsurprising because it's google so

651
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:16,319
it'll like know when you're at the gym yeah yeah you can you can turn on load

652
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:20,079
uh locations notifications locations notifications so it's like huh i see

653
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:24,000
you're in the border lineup i'm going to play gangster rap to make you suck

654
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,680
yeah um i don't know it's it's

655
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:34,880
it's interesting every once in a while i'll just jump into the different playlists that it recommends for me to

656
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:38,800
try to see where it's trying to take me and sometimes you know it'll go off in

657
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,000
totally a weird direction i'm like i don't like any of this stuff but often

658
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:46,640
it's pretty good i've been happy with it because when i i had two problems with

659
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:48,319
spotify the first was the discover

660
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:52,400
playlist was just totally like stuff i didn't listen to at all

661
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:56,480
and the the second was now maybe you can do this on certain

662
00:45:54,079 --> 00:46:00,480
services with spotify but i usually use this with my tv

663
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:04,240
and my google home and what i want to do is i have a song on this on in my head

664
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,760
and i'm like i want to play this song and then that's all i want to do and

665
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:11,680
after that i wanted to just go forever playing related music and google play

666
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,359
music is wicked at that that's very good at that not only will it play other

667
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,400
songs that you'll like they might not even be from bands you know of yeah i

668
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,560
started with a nine inch nails song the other day nine snails die hard

669
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:26,079
the next 10 songs were for bands i never heard of i didn't skip a single one

670
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:28,960
they're so sweet nice uh i actually really like doing that sometimes yeah

671
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:31,760
it's wicked if you try to do this on spotify guess what the second song will

672
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:37,599
be the second song will be the same song again because

673
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,480
instead of playing the song you search for and then a bunch of related songs it

674
00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:46,319
will play all the search results so it'll be like

675
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:50,079
so you try to put on uh so be like that same song or like

676
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:54,880
remixed by someone else yeah you try to put on stairway to heaven you get started to heaven then you get live then

677
00:46:52,640 --> 00:47:00,560
you get cover yeah it's like yes yes spotify this is what i wanted

678
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:04,480
no one's ever wanted this i'm gonna hopefully troll at least one

679
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:08,400
person okay google play that hipster song with

680
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,680
the whistling okay so that's in one of their

681
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:16,800
you jerk did it work uh no no dang

682
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:20,000
oh i should have said with google play music so sometimes it gets confused if

683
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,960
you don't include that i don't know why but because you can have a different default music player yeah yeah so if you

684
00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:29,359
have two installed it might have to like ask or whatever but

685
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:34,000
you got me it did it yes some people got it okay now let it keep going

686
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:38,560
you can even mute it and leave it off on the side or whatever but let it keep

687
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:42,720
going it does a pretty good job and it doesn't continue to play hipster whistle

688
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:47,760
songs or what do you mean that good job well it continues to play

689
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:52,079
hipstery kind of songs but that actually sound kind of similar and fun with the

690
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,800
same tonality and all these other kind of things it does it does a pretty good

691
00:47:53,839 --> 00:48:01,760
job i ended up um already cancelled some people are like

692
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,760
no screw it um someone actually said it

693
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,880
didn't recognize the voice yeah my yeah i've got that recently someone tried to

694
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,400
troll me and then google was like that doesn't sound like james yeah my

695
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,480
girlfriend even trying to impersonate my voice couldn't get into my phone using

696
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:18,240
that's not surprising yeah you know i know but it's just it's it's interesting

697
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,960
it did a pretty good job i would love to hear three devices

698
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:27,599
some guys said three devices are playing that song in my house right now when i did the there was a previous WAN Show

699
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:31,839
where i did this a similar command with some weird russian song that goes

700
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,680
yes people people kept tweeting me like man it was it was 1am my whole family is

701
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:40,800
awake now yeah it's pretty bad we gotta we put a lockdown on that recently okay

702
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,680
so we're adapting maybe maybe that was bad you did that on purpose yeah i did

703
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:48,000
it's the accidental ones we're looking out for hey there's actually an amazon

704
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:51,280
echo uh topic here we can go right into sure

705
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:57,760
so this has to do with amazon trying to monetize and

706
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,760
place ad units into echo devices so

707
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:05,200
there's a thread on the forum by man keys who actually pretty much supplied a

708
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:09,040
lot of almost all of the threads today thank you man thank you very much

709
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:12,640
however i kind of think that you're making your title for this is uh fake

710
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:17,280
news because as far as i read it's not the case that

711
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:22,240
your amazon echo is going to be reading out ads

712
00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:24,960
to you that would be so brutal um as far as i've seen i don't think that's

713
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:30,000
what they're trying to do but what they are trying to do is

714
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,440
have brands be like the sponsored search

715
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,760
results so just like when you google something um if you google new truck

716
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:39,760
there's gonna be a ford ad at the top of your search results page right but

717
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:44,480
now we're talking about voice so there's no page there's just there's gonna be a

718
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,119
suggested product so if you ask like there's an example here that says

719
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,200
if you ask a-l-e-x-a because we're not trying to

720
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:54,880
trigger the vocal commands anymore good idea um to add an item to your shopping

721
00:49:53,760 --> 00:50:00,640
cart it will suggest you buy a particular brand so i think that means like

722
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:02,880
a-l-e-x-a uh can you add some toothpaste

723
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:06,640
to my shopping cart and it'll be like okay i can look for a brand like colgate

724
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:10,480
would you like that and if you're like no it can find some other stuff but the default

725
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:17,200
matters because a lot of people are gonna be like yeah yeah instead of being like no actually i would like sensodyne

726
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:21,520
complete because i got a little wimpy teeth

727
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:24,160
i don't flaws so

728
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:26,960
yeah it's that is really

729
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:36,559
yeah so apparently it might suggest it based on

730
00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:41,160
your previous purchasing decisions which is not that bad so that would be a

731
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:48,079
situation like hey alexa i would like some surface cleaner

732
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,720
and they know that you bought a clorox

733
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:54,720
clorox product in the past so they'll say okay do you want

734
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:59,920
pine saw that kind of makes sense um it's going

735
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:03,200
to keep people in a little bubble which is maybe not great but if you're just

736
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,119
trying to order something with a voice command you're probably not trying to shop around you're probably just trying

737
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:11,200
to stay within your bubble you probably just want the transaction done faster so

738
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:14,319
that's maybe not a bad thing um i'd be interested in hearing what other people

739
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,319
have opinions in terms of that if i'm making a purchasing decision that i'm

740
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:22,160
even remotely unsure of i always research this is probably for your

741
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,520
second time buying something yeah right so and and it says that it's going to

742
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:28,480
suggest things based on what people have previously bought so if you've already

743
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,559
bought one of these and you're like hey i need some toothpaste and you've been buying the same toothpaste for freaking

744
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:37,440
ever and it's like hey do you want the same toothpaste that you've been buying for freaking ever you'll just say yes

745
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:41,359
and then well that's what we want but now we're talking about that not happening because of sponsored

746
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:47,040
posts yeah do you want the thing you've always been getting or do you want this new featured

747
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:49,680
product that like maybe sucks but they paid money

748
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,200
so that's what is going to be the default yeah

749
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:58,079
interesting it would be cool if they had a voice

750
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:04,839
command for like no i'd like the usual uh the huge you know what i mean

751
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:04,839
well like like if you're if you're uh

752
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:11,920
they might know what you want like the dude at mucho burrito knows my order

753
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:17,920
um the people at subway over here they know me too yeah it took them like six months

754
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:21,119
i have a very simple order i get everything for the veggies like

755
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,800
everything yeah so it's like they have two decisions anyway they're on it now

756
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,040
here's my question and i think this is interesting i don't know

757
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:32,480
i think there's a if you're a glass half full person or a glass half empty person

758
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:37,040
you might have two answers here okay is it likely

759
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,440
that google will also seek to monetize

760
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:43,440
in uh similar ways because google has if they already are

761
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:48,960
they're the main advertiser in this space right but is it antithetical to

762
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:52,160
google's mission statement or corporate culture

763
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:56,000
given that they're coming from a place where they're taking the world's

764
00:52:54,160 --> 00:53:00,480
information and putting down onto one search result page they're giving you

765
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:04,640
options it's democratic it's supposed to be based on like the

766
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:09,040
the link juice of the internet you know the democracy the population

767
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:13,119
popularity contest of the internet here um when you get into voice you only get

768
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,559
one answer so does google do the same thing

769
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:20,880
amazon's doing or do they never do that

770
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:26,640
i suspect they will i gotta get that green yeah paid

771
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:28,559
advertising is is google's whole thing i

772
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:32,160
would highly sweetest they would i this this is just making me think like we

773
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:37,680
need more competition for amazon um because like with google situation

774
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,640
what is it going to suggest you buy can you even auto buy things through

775
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,720
voice with google walmart they have a partnership with walmart

776
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:51,599
yeah well i just like it's it's the same situation with amazon where it's just

777
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:54,960
some like giant massive company eating everything up

778
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:59,920
this is going to take more purchasing from other random companies i don't know

779
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:04,160
alibaba is coming soon yeah that'll happen well that'll

780
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:09,359
usability up here yeah the usability of alibaba is not there compared to amazon

781
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:13,680
google has its own shop express yeah come on man

782
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:18,880
it's not there i mean like on the same scale in terms of usability um

783
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:23,520
trust like if something is a prime product on amazon

784
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:26,640
um if it's shipped by amazon it's a prime product it's

785
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:36,880
uh it's a high likeliness that you're going to get it on time that you're going to be able to have an easy time

786
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,800
with returns and warranty and all that

787
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:42,559
other kind of stuff i i don't know it's it

788
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,880
it shelters you like most normal stores do and a lot of online situations don't

789
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:50,640
do that properly and their shipping sucks and stuff like

790
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:54,400
i understand why amazon's where they're at but

791
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,800
they need better competition one more

792
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:01,280
well we got to do flow plans so let's do Floatplane and one more i'm gonna i

793
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:06,480
don't even know if i can screen share um maybe you did the wrong guy yeah i'm

794
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:10,319
gonna try that you can find me in the club

795
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:14,720
we don't call it that anymore it was full playing club

796
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:17,119
come on man um

797
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:23,520
it's still not i don't know if we're going to be able

798
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,520
to show it

799
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:30,640
well either way screen sharing is not happy right now

800
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:34,800
but full plane has a bunch of really cool stuff on it at the moment there's

801
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:38,400
even one thing that doesn't happen that much there's a poll

802
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:45,520
there's a there's a discussion poll asking you guys how uh you guys want us

803
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:46,960
to share ces content on Floatplane

804
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,559
because there's a few different good questions usually we don't care what you

805
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,040
think still not working so we will not be able to screen share um oh i bet you

806
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:59,359
i know why it's not working and i could fix it if i had more time but i don't

807
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:02,880
that's okay um there's yeah there's a poll asking how you guys want us to

808
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:08,079
share content and essentially the decision was with something like youtube

809
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:12,400
we have to time out our releases or youtube's algorithm is gonna be like no

810
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,319
screw you guys and they're already they're already gonna do that a little

811
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:19,200
bit because of just the nature of how rapid fire we have to do ces content but we're

812
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:24,400
going to do our best to spread it out and make the youtube robot happy um but

813
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:28,559
with flow plane whatever it doesn't it doesn't matter we don't

814
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:33,359
have to fight any weird algorithm so you guys have so far decided post it in

815
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:37,200
the main section and just fire letter writ fire hose let her go so

816
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:42,000
right when it's ready we're just gonna post it up you guys gonna get the content a little bit faster it's not

817
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:46,960
gonna be the one week window that it normally is because that would be terrible um but it is going to be a

818
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:50,640
little bit faster in general we're going to get it up to you guys right away it's

819
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,319
going to be good you can look like a twitter magician

820
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:59,359
yeah you're going to be in the know this video's coming remember it's going to be

821
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:03,839
awesome um on here regardless outside of the pool there is a tech wiki for why is

822
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:07,119
Windows display scaling so bad i'm excited for that i know a fair amount

823
00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:11,200
about it because i did the uh surface

824
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:14,079
studio review and there's a lot of really interesting information in that

825
00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:18,240
as to why the screen is the resolution and uh

826
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,960
aspect ratio and stuff that it is it seems to me like a topic that's like

827
00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:27,119
yeah it sucks but it has to be this way yeah like you just haven't thought about

828
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:31,839
it as hard as the engineers it sucks for a reason uh there's the

829
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:37,920
oneplus 5t review now in white if you haven't seen the ad for that it's been

830
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:43,040
everywhere so i'd be surprised there's a flow plane exclusive behind

831
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:47,280
the scene uh from right before christmas that just got released so i don't know

832
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:50,799
got released now but either way it just came out i will not spoil you guys gotta

833
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,839
see it um so the behind the scenes thing i know some people are

834
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:58,079
salty that we don't release this in other places but youtube would destroy

835
00:57:56,319 --> 00:58:02,480
our search ability if we did that because most people don't care about these things um i think they're awesome

836
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:08,559
and the people that do care about them are pretty hardcore about it but anyways

837
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:12,160
there's the 13 gpus in one pc mining

838
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:14,319
adventure part two this is a very large

839
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:19,680
departure from the um kind of amateur hour mining adventure

840
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:23,200
part one just you know you know there was some comments they were accurate

841
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:28,480
we're just you know what but we're moving forward

842
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:31,440
part two strong return part three

843
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:34,799
is gonna be even stronger of a return so we're coming at you with some really

844
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:40,319
interesting mining adventure videos they're coming pci express 4.0 as fast

845
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:46,880
as possible john back at it again with the epic videos um an LTT handmade uh

846
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:51,440
there's an ltvt video of a handmade portable arcade box um nothing

847
00:58:52,799 --> 00:58:58,319
as far as i know check it out uh super cool and there's also

848
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:03,200
um some like extra footage from the chiller

849
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:07,040
resurrection which is super cool so if you're into that there's extra footage

850
00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:10,799
the untold story of the chili resurrection again stuff that if we

851
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,920
threw this on youtube people wouldn't care as much it would hurt the channel

852
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,839
so we're just throwing it on flow plane for the super hard course and that's it

853
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:23,359
we're done moving on to now this weekend there's gonna be another keyboard video

854
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:25,920
oh a zany keyboard video us i think we almost did every one of

855
00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:32,559
them zaniness is ending here

856
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,920
okay we have another one yeah i think so this is a little simple

857
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:40,319
guy yeah sure let's just do that unsurprisingly if you think about it

858
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:44,240
2017 was the biggest year ever for electric car sales wow i'm super

859
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:47,599
surprised actually tell me more there was a time in like in

860
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:52,079
the 30s yes like before the model t where

861
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:55,760
electric cars actually were the main uh had the most market share above

862
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,960
combustion engines but since then this is the biggest year ever someone asked

863
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,720
about the dust video i'm going to just say this right now the

864
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,920
dust video is going to happen i'm going to be in it Linus is going to

865
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:09,839
be in it there's possibly other people that'll be in it this is probably not

866
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:15,440
i don't even know what this is oh this is pretty i understand where you're going with that but no it's uh the dust

867
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:19,760
computers are up in the corner i'm not going to be in it guys

868
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:24,799
you should just you should just walk through the screen at some point hey

869
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:27,680
um yeah it is going to happen we haven't filmed it yet

870
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,680
means it's not going to be filmed to at least after ces so it's going to be at

871
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,799
least another week until it's filmed but it's going to happen eventually

872
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:41,040
anyways let me chuck some numbers at you here yeah december marks the 27th 27th

873
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:45,440
month of consecutive sales gains for plug-in vehicles

874
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:51,440
meaning evs so in 2017 there was nearly 200 000 evs sold in the us 199 826 this

875
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,839
compares to 100

876
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:59,440
158 614 so what is that like a 30 increase

877
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:05,440
pretty decent so if you break that down by the top five browns that were sold

878
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:10,720
the tesla model s was the number one seller at 27 060. next in line

879
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:15,119
chevy bolt chevy bolt the the electric version at

880
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:19,119
twenty three thousand two hundred ninety seven next in line back to tesla it was

881
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:22,319
the model x twenty over twenty one thousand of those sold

882
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:26,240
and then what was that i just last i read the last bullet

883
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:29,200
points okay okay i thought you were like model x no no no no no

884
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:35,119
no i love the waterline it's got the frunk um

885
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:39,040
the fourth one was uh the prius prius prime from toyota over twenty thousand

886
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:44,720
almost twenty one thousand sold and everyone wants to know how many tesla

887
01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:47,359
model threes got delivered in 2017 and

888
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:52,160
it looks like it was about two thousand about two grand they're doing what a

889
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,760
thousand a week now uh which is less

890
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,839
than a previous promise that they'd be doing 5000 a week by the end of the year

891
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:03,680
they're now hoping to hit 5000 a week by this summer in terms of production

892
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:05,200
estimations that's pretty standard um

893
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:09,440
from what we've been able to expect so far is there's the estimation they won't

894
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:12,559
hit it but they'll do pretty darn good um and that's cool because they'll

895
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:17,839
figure it out eventually there you go

896
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:20,720
um someone said in chat stream Labs is

897
01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:24,640
releasing their own kind of version of obs because obs is open source that is a

898
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:28,319
thing i'm going to be screening with that on my personal stream i believe

899
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,760
Colton is as well but i don't know if i'll end up using it we'll see

900
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:36,000
that's another interesting news bit though because if you're into streaming

901
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:40,960
it streamlines a lot of haha get it streamlines a lot of different stuff

902
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,240
which is cool and uh i think we will see

903
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:47,599
you guys at sea yes yes we have so far never

904
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:52,880
missed a WAN Show at ces so theoretically there will be a WAN Show

905
01:02:50,319 --> 01:02:55,839
at ces but every single year it's super random

906
01:02:54,079 --> 01:03:01,839
how it works is super random who's on it is super random where we are is super

907
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:03,599
random what time it starts

908
01:03:01,839 --> 01:03:07,040
not that that's different from normal but it's pretty random it'd be pretty

909
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:11,839
cool if we did it from a plane like we have wi-fi on the plane the

910
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:16,400
dope you might even be able to get by with

911
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:19,599
like a super crappo resolution if we get like everyone else on the

912
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,520
plane to not use wi-fi you might be able to get by with a super terrible

913
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:27,839
resolution um if you think sitting beside a baby on a plane sucks wait till

914
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:31,119
you're beside two podcasters i think it would just get

915
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:36,000
rejected from twitch though because the latency

916
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:39,760
because like i i connected to a game while i was on a plane just to check out

917
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:43,920
my latency and it was like quite a few seconds between input

918
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:47,440
and what actually happened well we can always do another pre-recorded one like

919
01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:50,880
this one was oh

920
01:03:48,799 --> 01:03:54,799
why no i'm joking

921
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:59,839
i'm joking it says friday january 5th right there

922
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:04,559
oh jk no the joke i gotta go man

923
01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:13,480
anyways uh i'll see i'll see you guys ces videos ces one

924
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,480
show next week see you later goodbye