WEBVTT 00:00:11.840 --> 00:00:17.680 i think i cracked the code after all this time making youtube 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:21.119 videos i finally figured out what you guys like to see 00:00:19.520 --> 00:00:25.840 pc builds and you know i'm a people pleaser so 00:00:23.680 --> 00:00:30.480 i'ma give you what you want thanks to MSI who sponsored our video today to 00:00:28.080 --> 00:00:35.920 prove once and for all that their competitors aren't the only ones who 00:00:33.120 --> 00:00:40.640 make a lot more than motherboards these days 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:48.320 that's a lot of boxes and almost every single one of them is MSI 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:51.840 yes my friends it's time for the all MSI 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:55.600 gaming pc including their new GeForce 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:59.840 rtx 3080 gaming x trio so let's get 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:59.840 cracking and build this sweet rig 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:14.479 of course even though they make more than motherboards that's still where we're going to start with the MSI meg 00:01:12.360 --> 00:01:18.720 z490 ace the key features of this puppy are of 00:01:16.720 --> 00:01:22.240 course support for the latest Intel 10th gen processors 00:01:20.240 --> 00:01:28.799 two and a half gig networking three m.2 slots and 00:01:25.119 --> 00:01:30.960 enough RGB to choke a horse 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:34.880 well it's an expression you know it feels like it's harder than 00:01:32.720 --> 00:01:38.079 ever to choose the right CPU these days like that's the 00:01:36.240 --> 00:01:42.960 double-edged sword of having two legitimately good options for a change 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:48.799 if we go Intel we get called Intel shills oh you guys don't appreciate AMD 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:50.320 enough but in some cases if we go AMD we 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:54.159 get people telling us you're leaving performance on the table 00:01:52.240 --> 00:01:59.360 like what happened in our review of the rtx 3080. so 00:01:56.320 --> 00:02:00.640 we've gone Intel we're using the 10900k 00:01:59.360 --> 00:02:07.200 because we're going to be pairing it with an rtx 3080 which is a flipping 00:02:03.360 --> 00:02:09.440 fast graphics card and right now this is 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:14.080 the fastest CPU for gaming and i say right now because i'm filming this on 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:18.879 october the 6th not the 8th so we'll see how things change after that 00:02:16.239 --> 00:02:24.400 it changed everything next up is storage we're using a Corsair mp600 2 terabyte 00:02:21.440 --> 00:02:29.520 m.2 SSD for a couple of reasons number one is to highlight that while Intel's 00:02:26.720 --> 00:02:34.879 10th gen processors do not support pci express gen 4 it is expected that 11th 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:37.200 gen processors which will also be capable of being installed on this 00:02:36.160 --> 00:02:42.239 platform will so pci express gen 4 is going to 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:47.440 come with some pretty cool benefits once direct storage gets actually implemented 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:53.120 into Windows and GPU drivers allowing similar features to what we've seen on 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:54.480 the playstation 5 as well as xbox series 00:02:53.120 --> 00:03:00.560 reason number two is that we don't have any samsung 980 pros in 00:02:58.160 --> 00:03:05.040 the studio right now for RAM we've gone with a couple of 16 gig sticks of 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:09.519 corsairs of vengeance pro RGB that gives us a total of 32 gigs running in dual 00:03:07.519 --> 00:03:13.360 channel mode and as for why we went Corsair 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:16.879 well the cold hard truth Corsair's competitors out there is that nobody 00:03:15.440 --> 00:03:21.280 does RGB quite like Corsair that is to say that 00:03:19.040 --> 00:03:23.840 nobody does RGB quite to the extent of Corsair 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:28.640 now we've reached the point where we're ready to check out our sakura 500x 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:31.599 tempered glass kit just kidding i already took it out of 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:36.000 the box because this thing is so freaking heavy and i didn't want to 00:03:33.440 --> 00:03:43.599 unbox it on camera it's got tempered glass pretty much up the wazoo includes 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:45.680 four RGB fans and has a total of a 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:50.480 whopping front usb 3 ports who's plugging in that 00:03:48.720 --> 00:03:56.159 much front usb oh yeah maybe this guy brandon would you 00:03:52.720 --> 00:03:56.159 oh all right fair enough 100 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:08.480 easily removable side panels check giant 200 millimeter fans 00:04:05.200 --> 00:04:10.319 check built in RGB hub check but i do 00:04:08.480 --> 00:04:15.840 get the uncomfortable feeling that it might be haunted 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.840 like i can hear this voice 00:04:16.239 --> 00:04:22.160 they've got solid materials in front of their fans 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:26.000 i think steve from gamer's nexus died and he's in there we'll find out soon 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:30.400 enough if these perforations along the side and on the top here where it seems 00:04:28.080 --> 00:04:33.919 air is intended to come in are enough because the system we're loading this 00:04:31.840 --> 00:04:38.080 thing up with is not going to be very forgiving if there isn't enough airflow 00:04:36.320 --> 00:04:42.400 underrated feature the little motherboard standoff nubbin 00:04:40.080 --> 00:04:45.840 right here absolutely love it just makes installing the motherboard a breeze 00:04:43.919 --> 00:04:50.479 personally i like to build standing up like this it's an old habit and it makes it a lot 00:04:49.520 --> 00:04:53.919 easier hey colin how much is this case 00:04:54.560 --> 00:05:00.720 huh okay that's not cheap certainly but definitely fully featured so they 00:04:58.880 --> 00:05:04.800 include the bracket that you need for a vertical GPU mount uh you've got these 00:05:03.440 --> 00:05:09.280 nice little sleds for your three and a half inch drives lots of included fans 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:13.680 i'm liking it so far not cheap though good packing materials 00:05:11.280 --> 00:05:17.199 actually oh that's worth mentioning i get such a boner for good packing 00:05:15.440 --> 00:05:22.320 materials see got that really nice foam in there 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:27.039 and these oh yeah confusing branding though MSI's got to 00:05:25.840 --> 00:05:31.840 get their stuff figured out i know they're the sponsor today's video but that doesn't prevent me from you know 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:36.400 trying to help them you know i got to help what is mpg what's the difference 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:42.639 between mpg and mg and what's the difference between 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:45.120 meg and mag m-a-g apparently it's MSI 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:49.919 performance gaming MSI extreme gaming and MSI arsenal gaming happy to clear 00:05:48.080 --> 00:05:55.199 that up for you on the subject of MSI arsenal gaming it's time to install our 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:57.759 core liquid 360r so this is a triple 120 00:05:55.199 --> 00:06:02.000 millimeter liquid cooler that if MSI's marketing is anything to go by 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:06.400 should be a perfect match with our other MSI 00:06:04.880 --> 00:06:11.199 product in fact there are pictures of both this case and this radiator on the 00:06:08.880 --> 00:06:15.360 back of the motherboard with a clever pin header location making them a 00:06:13.280 --> 00:06:19.919 perfect match ew that's a gross spider go away no no don't go under my rug 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:24.560 well i'm not gonna i don't want to kill it it's a spider spiders are good they're our friends just i just don't 00:06:22.880 --> 00:06:27.919 want it here that's all this threw me for a bit of a loop here i 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:32.880 saw this thing embedded in the radiator and my 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:37.520 immediate response was oh okay it looks like MSI came up with the admittedly 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:42.960 quite cool idea of putting the temperature sensor for the CPU cooler in 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:47.039 the radiator so that you could actually adjust the RPM of your fans based on 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:51.840 coolant temperature but what it actually is is a pump so this is the way that MSI 00:06:49.520 --> 00:06:55.120 has gotten around that acetec patent they also claim that it helps improve 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:59.199 the longevity of the pump because it keeps it away from the heat source which 00:06:57.039 --> 00:07:04.880 is of course the CPU the coolant will not be nearly as warm as the CPU itself 00:07:02.479 --> 00:07:08.479 with that said there's a coolant buffer in between the pump and the CPU itself 00:07:07.039 --> 00:07:12.479 anyway so i don't think it'd make that much of a difference but hey what do i 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:15.919 know i'm not MSI's engineer that's a pretty neat idea especially given that 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:19.280 it sits right in the dead zone right under the hub of the fan like you're 00:07:17.440 --> 00:07:23.680 probably not losing a ton of cooling potential 00:07:21.039 --> 00:07:27.360 oh interesting very interesting so you're actually using the outer edges of 00:07:25.919 --> 00:07:32.160 the radiator where your water is hottest which as 00:07:29.919 --> 00:07:35.039 colin found in a recent video you guys should go check that out when you're 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:39.360 done with this one does make a difference having the most cooling 00:07:36.880 --> 00:07:43.280 potential where the water is hottest one thing i don't like that much about this 00:07:41.280 --> 00:07:48.000 approach is that they've only put a cable management spot over here on this 00:07:45.520 --> 00:07:52.639 side see to get this out without mushing the cable but what i actually wanted was 00:07:50.400 --> 00:07:57.520 to have it oriented this way with the cable coming out the other way so MSI i 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:02.639 would love it if you guys put a slit on this side as well so i could go out that 00:07:59.520 --> 00:08:04.560 way it's fairly minor but just 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:07.680 you know there's only one orientation that i would really recommend in this 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:11.919 particular case for the fan so that's pulling air down into the case and the 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:15.039 reason for that is twofold one it makes cleaning the radiator pretty simple 00:08:13.440 --> 00:08:18.240 because it's just two thumb screws to slide it out 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:21.440 pretty cool little mounting mechanism and number two the fans are 00:08:19.840 --> 00:08:24.639 pre-installed on the top blowing air down and you don't want to be you won't 00:08:22.960 --> 00:08:28.639 want to have them fighting each other also from a lighting standpoint reason 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:32.719 number three we're gonna have RGB lights here so there's no point putting the 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:36.320 fans up above the rad we want our RGB lights right here right so we can have 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:39.120 RGB everywhere from the front there's gonna be a sick looking system from the 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:43.760 back even with all this pre-done cable management 00:08:41.839 --> 00:08:47.920 it's going to be a bit of a challenge i couldn't help noticing that the built-in 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:51.839 RGB hub which has eight slots on it only has two of them free 00:08:50.800 --> 00:08:57.440 so um it looks like for the fans for the 00:08:55.600 --> 00:09:01.200 radiator we're gonna need to take advantage of the daisy chaining feature 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:05.040 here if i can figure out which one is which so that we only use up the one 00:09:02.880 --> 00:09:09.200 port then for the fans we're gonna have to use the included three-way splitter 00:09:06.800 --> 00:09:13.120 to plug this into the CPU fan header and then this into all three of the fans and 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:17.200 then we'll just like cable tie it down okay i went from happy 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:21.440 about the abundance of headers on this motherboard that made it super easy for 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:24.480 me to plug in all of my system fans and all that cool stuff to 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:28.880 being sun i am disappoint because there's 00:09:26.640 --> 00:09:33.440 literally a picture of this case on the back of this motherboard box this case 00:09:31.040 --> 00:09:37.680 has two of the older style usb 3.0 connectors this motherboard only has one 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:42.959 of that style header so two of my usb ports at the front are 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:48.320 gonna be dead now MSI can solve this problem by just including a usb 2 to usb 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:53.760 3 adapter so that i could have two of them just be usb2 but still work 00:09:51.839 --> 00:09:56.640 but it doesn't appear to be included for now so 00:09:54.959 --> 00:10:01.920 they could still make me happy while you might say that an hx1000 power supply is 00:09:59.040 --> 00:10:07.600 overkill we've actually found in our rtx 3000 series testing that NVIDIA's 00:10:04.839 --> 00:10:12.480 recommendations for power supply for the first time that i can remember 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:16.880 might not be overkill and in fact you might be better off going with something 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:21.279 even higher than what they say because there tend to be these spikes in power 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:27.279 draw that can trigger the over current protection of a lesser power supply so 00:10:24.800 --> 00:10:30.959 1000 watt power supplies for the first time in the 10 years 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:34.640 they've existed they're not pointless one thing to watch 00:10:33.040 --> 00:10:39.440 out for if you've got a longer power supply is look at this 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:42.880 not a lot of room between this hard drive cage and the back of the psu 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:46.640 there's no way i'd be able to plug in cables right now the good news is most 00:10:45.040 --> 00:10:49.760 people don't have a ton of hard drives these days and you can remove this cage 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:55.040 it looks like there's a couple of screws in the bottom so we're gonna pop this out to give us some more room to run all 00:10:52.959 --> 00:10:58.480 our cables we've got two options here we can either mash these cables because 00:10:56.959 --> 00:11:05.040 this power supply is a little bit on the long boy side or we can actually use 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:06.560 this cover plate here to 00:11:05.040 --> 00:11:11.279 fill in the gap which do you prefer 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:15.200 cover plate oh all right well that's easier 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:18.959 the more i use this case the more i'm kind of rooting for it here so being 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:22.800 able to slide this in and out while i'm working means that it's much much easier 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:28.320 than in some of the other cases i've worked with to get at things like the 8-pin CPU power connectors up here i'm 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:31.760 gonna put the Intel bracket on the CPU block now and this is a cool feature you 00:11:30.079 --> 00:11:34.959 can actually rotate the logo here to make sure that it's oriented the right 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:39.839 way and then you can have your tubes kind of wherever is most natural for you 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:42.959 it's kind of nice oh they're shooting a ShortCircuit on the new google speaker 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:46.160 over that's why we got crab rave in the background 00:11:44.880 --> 00:11:51.519 make sure you're subbed to ShortCircuit by the way we do a lot of our like first impressions and unboxings and stuff over 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:55.040 there i love the labels for the 5 volt addressable RGB headers on the board so 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:57.839 there's two of them one at the bottom and one at the top and they're called j 00:11:56.800 --> 00:12:02.800 rainbow i cleaned up a few things off camera so 00:12:00.160 --> 00:12:07.600 we've got our front usb 3 plugged in our front panel headers plugged in down here 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:10.800 tidy that the cables out the back a little bit 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:14.639 is that acceptable can we accept that all right all right we're going with 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:17.839 acceptable and now it's time for my favorite part 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:21.680 graphics card it is such an exciting time to be a pc 00:12:19.920 --> 00:12:27.360 gamer not because of the 3080 specifically necessarily but the whole 00:12:23.920 --> 00:12:29.839 3000 series is just turning the existing 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:33.680 you know price to performance ratio on its head it's going to drive 00:12:32.160 --> 00:12:39.360 once they're actually available readily it's going to drive pricing of last generation stuff down like everybody 00:12:36.959 --> 00:12:42.639 benefits when there's a big leap forward in performance like this and then of 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:47.200 course there's the fact that if you can get your hands on a 3080 and you can 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:49.600 afford it 4k gaming is finally within reach 00:12:48.079 --> 00:12:52.720 i'm a big fan of the over-the-top approach for the pci express power 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:57.200 connectors because one of the things it helps with is reducing GPU sag although 00:12:55.200 --> 00:13:00.959 MSI does actually include a bracket in the box for supporting it 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:06.079 i don't think i need it though that looks pretty level which means it's time 00:13:03.680 --> 00:13:10.560 for the finishing touch all we gotta do is put these thumb screws in 00:13:08.160 --> 00:13:14.399 lock the radiator in place enough pc building let's take a look at our 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:17.399 peripherals oh 00:13:20.079 --> 00:13:24.399 fine whatever i'm over it 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:32.040 this is the mpg 341cqr 00:13:27.760 --> 00:13:34.720 it's got HDR 400 support it's 3440 by 00:13:32.040 --> 00:13:39.200 1440 and of course features a high refresh rate 144 hertz panel and one 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:44.240 millisecond response times this right here is the vigor gk50 elite it's got 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:47.600 individually backlit RGB keys and kale blue switches it's also available with 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:51.680 some other different switch types and this is the gm30 clutch mouse which has 00:13:49.839 --> 00:13:55.680 like a u-shaped RGB thing what are we waiting for 00:13:52.880 --> 00:13:59.279 let's fire this thing up and see the RGB this looks 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:04.320 flippin awesome same goes for the top damn can you see 00:14:02.079 --> 00:14:04.320 that 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:13.199 smoked glass and RGB there's very few things that look better 00:14:11.199 --> 00:14:17.199 i like it they even managed to get the MSI like 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:20.240 tacky dragon shield thing on there and have it not look too bad oh yeah i 00:14:18.959 --> 00:14:25.199 didn't talk about their wrist rest thing they included they really sent over like MSI everything 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:29.120 it's actually really nice it's like super mushy another thing they nailed is 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:32.079 enough space behind the motherboard tray that you can actually close the door as 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:34.399 long as your cable management isn't horrible 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:43.360 we are on ultra nightmare absolutely everything running at 3440 by 1440 and 00:14:41.040 --> 00:14:49.279 we have not dropped below the refresh rate of this monitor which is 144 hertz 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:52.800 but it's smooth of course the question wasn't whether or 00:14:50.959 --> 00:14:57.440 not this rig was going to run games real well i mean it's rtx 3080 and 10 900k 00:14:55.760 --> 00:15:01.680 what do you think is going to happen the question is whether the thermals will 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.680 hold up 00:15:02.880 --> 00:15:08.000 hey there we go all right the fans are definitely going 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:12.000 now you can really hear the difference all right let's load a checkpoint and 00:15:10.079 --> 00:15:19.920 let's pop open hardware info and see how high we went on our temps here our CPU 00:15:15.199 --> 00:15:23.519 wow our CPU is pinned at 5.1 gigahertz 00:15:19.920 --> 00:15:27.920 pretty happy with that sitting at around 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:30.079 65 to no 70 to 75 degrees okay that's 00:15:27.920 --> 00:15:33.920 reasonable with our preliminary results we're just going to pop back into doom 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:37.360 here reset the timer and then what i want to see is after maybe another five 00:15:35.920 --> 00:15:41.120 minutes of playing once it's already heated up in there what's the minimum 00:15:39.199 --> 00:15:44.399 clock speed we see so the rated boost clock on this card is 18 15 megahertz 00:15:43.680 --> 00:15:48.639 but honestly i expect better 00:15:46.800 --> 00:15:52.120 more like 2 gigahertz if it's actually doing its job 00:15:55.040 --> 00:16:01.920 yeah based on how hot that glass is i'm uh 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:05.920 not sure really pleased with every other aspect of this system but unfortunately 00:16:03.839 --> 00:16:11.120 i think this case is just going to struggle with this tier of hardware 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:12.000 unfortunately the glass is hot to the 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:16.560 touch and if we go ahead and 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:20.320 pop open hardware info here we're going to see that our GPU clock 00:16:18.079 --> 00:16:25.199 went down as low as 1830 megahertz that is technically within spec 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:31.759 but everything you need to know about how hard this poor thing is working 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.759 you'll know when i do this 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.839 okay the fans turning down 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:44.880 can you hear that yeah everything else 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:48.399 great thanks to MSI for sponsoring this video 00:16:47.199 --> 00:16:52.160 if you guys enjoyed this video we're gonna have the parts list down below 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:55.360 along with links for where you can buy them thanks for watching and we'll see 00:16:53.680 --> 00:16:59.519 you guys at the next one if you enjoyed this video maybe go check out our 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:03.279 ultimate high airflow machine where we actually used an industrial fan to put 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:07.600 the most airflow we possibly could through a computer case that was pretty 00:17:05.199 --> 00:17:07.600 fun