WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:06.319 gtx 1080 or vega 1080 1070 or waiting 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:10.960 for 1080 ti bill switch to investing in a new build 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:14.880 1080p wait for vegas wait for rx vega 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:21.600 wait for navi so at gtc last year 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:25.359 we expected to get AMD vega in early 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:28.240 2017 but as the slide helpfully points 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:33.440 out the timeline was subject to change and change it did it is now 00:00:31.599 --> 00:00:41.380 august but today we finally find out 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:51.760 was vega worth the wait 00:00:51.760 --> 00:00:58.239 synergy allows you to share your mouse and keyboard between multiple computers 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:05.199 at once check it out now at the link in the video description 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:08.720 meet vega or more accurately rx vega 56 00:01:05.199 --> 00:01:10.240 and 64. the consumer versions of the 00:01:08.720 --> 00:01:15.439 vega founders excuse me frontier edition cards that 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:20.240 launched back in june of this year it's named for the number of next-gen compute 00:01:17.759 --> 00:01:24.799 units on board if we compare it against the frontier edition we can see that 00:01:22.240 --> 00:01:29.840 we're on par for compute units on vega 64 but we've got about half the video 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:35.680 memory at eight gigs and our clocks are a little lower much lower in vega 56's 00:01:32.720 --> 00:01:41.600 case but like that card and one of the likely reasons behind the delays they 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:44.560 both have hbm2 memory the newest 00:01:41.600 --> 00:01:51.360 revision of the blazing fast memory that first debuted on AMD's own fury cards 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:53.759 back in 2015 which both does and doesn't 00:01:51.360 --> 00:01:59.439 feel like a long time ago depending on how you look at it anyway 00:01:55.840 --> 00:02:02.240 aside from actually basically everything 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:07.759 new to vega is a tile-based rendering mode that AMD calls the drawstream 00:02:04.880 --> 00:02:12.720 binning rasterizer a feature similar to what NVIDIA implemented on maxwell that 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:16.879 AMD tells us will improve performance without any extra work from game 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:23.040 developers let's meet the lineup for today we've got vega 56 both air and 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:28.080 liquid cooled flavors of rx vega 64 and the gtx 1070 and 1080 that their pricing 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:32.000 puts them up against and we'll be treating all three cards to our 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:37.200 mainstream gaming platforms from both the red team and the blue team at the 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:41.519 top end we immediately see the vega 64 liquid cooled card pull out into a 00:02:39.200 --> 00:02:46.319 comfortable lead though this quickly changes in rise of the tomb raider where 00:02:43.519 --> 00:02:52.720 the gtx 1080 overruns it moving a tier down while the vega 56 significantly 00:02:49.519 --> 00:02:55.680 widens and closes these gaps on the 1070 00:02:52.720 --> 00:03:01.200 at times appearing like a kind of 1070 ti this theme of trading blows seems to 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:06.239 take place across all of our gaming benchmarks and our synthetics tell a 00:03:03.920 --> 00:03:10.800 similar tale so if you're an AMD fan who wanted to see competition you're going 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:13.680 to be happy but if you wanted AMD to blow the doors off NVIDIA 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:20.400 well you might be a little disappointed you'll be more excited about the 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:27.280 productivity applications in cinebench r15 blender and adobe media encoder we 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:33.360 see a clear trend favoring even the air cooled rx vega 64 over the gtx 1080 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:38.560 something that we're not entirely surprised by but we're happy to see 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:43.200 considering AMD's traditional strength in general purpose GPU tasks 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:50.480 unfortunately another point of divergence is power consumption the rx 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:52.640 vega 64 is an absolute hog when it comes 00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:57.280 to power to say nothing of the liquid cooled version and thermal performance 00:03:55.440 --> 00:04:02.799 isn't much better for the air cooled vega 64 either with the heaviest 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:07.439 throttle out of any of the cards we tested 00:04:03.920 --> 00:04:10.080 you actually need both eight pin power 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:13.280 connectors for these cards ouch 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:18.720 with that said the value proposition here is still pretty compelling our air 00:04:15.760 --> 00:04:23.680 cooled rx vega 64 is quite close to the gtx 1080 founders edition in gaming 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:28.000 while the liquid cooled variant is a better performer but one that's 00:04:25.840 --> 00:04:32.639 ultimately held back a little by its higher price tag 00:04:29.520 --> 00:04:35.440 for productivity and gp GPU though rx 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:40.639 vega really shines of course the same is true of the excellent productivity 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:43.360 performance of rx vega 56 but the real 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:48.560 story is gaming holy balls we're actually doing pretty great at this 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:55.360 price especially since we couldn't even find a gtx 1070 for less than about 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:59.199 430 dollars though with that said the 00:04:55.360 --> 00:05:01.919 value argument of the entire vega lineup 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:07.919 is pretty complicated because the higher end cards may not be purchasable without 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:13.199 AMD's value-added bundle so we're talking a discount on a ryzen 7 a free 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:20.160 sync monitor and some free games that seems to add about a hundred dollars to 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:23.680 the price though AMD says it's worth 420 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:26.000 dollars so the question really becomes 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:29.759 vega 56 looks pretty good with or without the bundle depending on whether 00:05:27.520 --> 00:05:34.400 you want that stuff that's part of AMD's strategy to deter coin miners from 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:41.440 buying these cards but at the very high end the vega 64 liquid cooled at 6.99 00:05:38.960 --> 00:05:45.759 with rebates and games that one becomes a tougher sell but feel 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:51.600 free to tell us if we're wrong in the comments below so conclusion then the 00:05:48.479 --> 00:05:54.160 wait is finally over vega might bear 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:59.199 more similarity to the performance and power consumption profile of NVIDIA's 00:05:56.479 --> 00:06:04.560 last generation maxwell architecture when it comes to gaming tasks but the 00:06:01.840 --> 00:06:11.520 good news is that it's enough to be in the conversation for high-end GPU buyers 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:17.919 and those poor folks with high resolution free sync monitors that now 00:06:15.039 --> 00:06:22.160 finally have a real option for a graphics card to drive them the only 00:06:19.919 --> 00:06:28.240 thing remaining then is to see what NVIDIA has up their sleeves with volta 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:33.840 synergy it's symbiosis it's energy 00:06:31.440 --> 00:06:38.479 it's a software product that lets you solve the problem once and for all of 00:06:35.919 --> 00:06:44.400 having two keyboards and two mice because you can share one mouse and one 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:46.240 keyboard between multiple computers so 00:06:44.400 --> 00:06:52.400 whatever your reason for having more than one computer laptop and desktop um 00:06:49.520 --> 00:06:57.840 you know Linux workstation and Windows machine for gaming or mac or whatever it 00:06:55.520 --> 00:07:02.639 works on everything it's amazing you just install synergy and you 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