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with only our own hard work and brains and an expensive 8k red camera alex and

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uh yeah so we need to make one of these but the correct size

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okay we also probably should leak test the whole thing before we you know

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actually put it in the camera yeah minor details so this goes in the box

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and we'll just you know take the little heat sinks put them

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together just kind of assemble it all here fill it with water and see what happens okay so in front of us we've got

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our radiator an alpha cool pump and then we've also got two basically uh

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frankenstein blocks onto existing

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cooling systems within the camera once we're done theoretically the entire

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inside of the camera will be water cooled but we will still have the air

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cooling fans running is this everything so this is our other water block and

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also this bucket that's filled with the right camera

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so i'm putting this on here is that right yep all right really helps if you

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take the screws out of the radiator on the other side first oh i guess i should assume everything

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about this project is kind of screwed probably the most stressful bit of today

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is that we have to turn two of these heat pipes

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into the correctly bent heat pipes like this

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and we only have four of them and we bought the entire stock of them in

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canada so and these are your previous attempts yep

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these are that doesn't bode well yeah you're just guessing and checking do you

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have another way to do it well i just assumed you had another way to do it

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what do i pay you for 2.25 millimeters just give her a bit

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more 2.12 let's

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give her a little bit 2.08 actually we want to do a tiny bit

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more you're going to overcook it i'm not going to overcook it

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you overcooked it 2.01 millimeter so you're still over you

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undercooked it that's that's what i said absolutely nailed it just gonna bend

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this tube here you'd think that it's a bit more high-tech than it is but nope

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we definitely could have made this ourselves instead of buying it but here

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we go the hard part is getting two of them exactly the same you might be

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thinking oh goodness that's going the wrong way

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which isn't fantastic but we're just gonna bend it back over

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here not recommended for sure

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and there we go we have basically a

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fully done heat pipe so this is our one that we know fits correctly even if

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they're not totally bang on we at least have two more tries and we haven't totally screwed these ones up yet so

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okay i'm back i found some fittings

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thank you i need a wrench

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do you yeah i can't get this off

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do we not have an adjustable wrench why would you want that

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um it's under nut rounders nut grinders

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rounders also i already got the fitting off with my hands hey at least i managed

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to find the right fitting smart guy i could have found those two but you

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didn't this is gonna be a really tight fit you

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know i can't get a tube in there like this hole should be

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even a quarter inch that way

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and i'd be able to get it in there these silicone hoses are normally used

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for bending hardline tubing but fun fact you can actually use them to bend soft

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tubing as well

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this is going to work way better than i could have possibly

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hoped zero kinkage all along the top here once it's

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tightened down you can see that the o-ring is compressed so we shouldn't have any leaks shouldn't

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that's what i want to hear so when i first planned out this loop the pump was

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the other way around but it eventually had to be flipped there was a fitting

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spot like a port on the top that was going to be used to fill the whole thing

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which we now don't have access to could we just put a hole in here maybe but it

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probably wouldn't look good there was a reason that i did it that way and i

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don't quite remember what it was at this point so this is our sensor cooling

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block i don't know if you've actually seen it in the flesh yet oh no i haven't did you hand mill that kind of looks

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hand done this right here was all done with the router this was done on the

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mill does that have a bunch of junk in it though do you mean like it looks like

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there's like residue in it oh that's just a bit of lube is there anything

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wrong with lube in the loop i just don't think lube is great for not gunking up

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the water yeah that's that's fair i'll run a pipe cleaner through it now

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because these fittings for the inside of the camera are so small there's nowhere

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that they could really put an o-ring seal on them so instead we're using

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teflon tape to seal up the threads um

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now because we don't actually have a quick and easy way to leak test our

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blocks we took one of those five-way manifolds that we didn't end up using

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plugged four of them connected the last one connected that to

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the block plugged the end with a pair of vise grips and now we can hook up our ek

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leak tester here so i'm just going to go ahead and pressurize the loop and we're

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going to leave it for a little bit and see if our block leaks

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i don't hear anything needle's not moving i also want to make sure that

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this heat pipe right here didn't collapse so the thing about a heat pipe

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is you need to have the fluid inside able to move freely so if you

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accidentally kink it and you impede that movement that can be a big problem for

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performance so how do you test that then well i'd like to say that there's a good

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way to do it but oh wait hold on a second

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seriously yeah so heating up heat pipes can cause them to explode but presumably

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you're not going to heat it up much right oh yeah my finger's getting pretty hot okay all right all right all right

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our block is leaking but i don't think it's around the o-ring

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i think it's around the fittings and i popped one of them out and that's

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clearly not enough teflon tape so we teflon tape the bejesus out of these

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fittings and it's sticking looks good

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that's very good news because if it was the o-ring or something else about the

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block design we were in trouble this is the one i'm more concerned about

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like for the block itself actually leaking yep oh wow she is yep

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ah i think we might have to submerge it sir

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do we have a bucket of water uh we can make a bucket of water so it looks like

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the leak is actually in the

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fitment between the top cover and the bottom plate

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i didn't want it to come to this but we do have gasket maker

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we could just give her oh

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so we might be so it's just not flat enough we might be able to skimmer all

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right we have a lapping plate okay cool let's do it

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round two here we go oh dang it really okay so we're boned

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now i don't think we're boned while drilling this hole right here i went

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down a touch too far so that means i need to go real heavy on the teflon tape

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up at the top i was thinking that we could put jb weld in there and then

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run a tap through i think this will hold

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is this the mangled remains of one of the original coolers

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yup this was the one we were planning to try to reuse isn't it yep

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oh that that seems like a lot yeah oh yeah that is a lot

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come on guys it's right here yeah but this one

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is already in my hand

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adjustable wrenches there's nothing wrong with them for a part that you're

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going to use a couple times did we get it

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no bubbles though i'm glad that we tested these beforehand

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there's no way i was sticking this in a red and just like calling it a day oh i

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think we've got a bubble on the right side oh yeah

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water's a bigger molecule so if just a little bit of air gets out

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that actually looks okay though yeah it does so do we get to reassemble this

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damn thing we do yes okay what fan is this

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that's the fan that's from the red we're replacing it with Noctua yeah

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goodbye fans

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one holiday later so our radiator and

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pump have apparently been leak tested now

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so that's a big difference from before and

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we are basically ready to reassemble now is that correct yeah let's do it so i

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think sensor is a good spot to start okay

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i think we need our guide sure they could be in the unlabeled bag

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how this went together was just like in my brain a month ago how bad is it if i

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bend this heat pipe a little a little is not bad a lot is very bad all right

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those are cranked on there hopefully the correct tightness yeah don't put that on

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quite yet oh it's easier if we put the other one on first neat

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so i potentially have some rather bad news this little thing that's

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on top of the thing where is it i have no clue

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i am concerned that everything was put back in the bins by not me here it is

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it's right here oh it's just stuck to a bag okay good

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i suspect this is temperature related it has to be

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so that's on there you can hardly tell how

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wonderful the epoxy job was once that's on there yeah i am so excited to find

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out if this thing works better now yeah i kind of realized a little while ago

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that we probably could have got like 90 percent of the improvement by just

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swapping the thermal compound and putting in some new Noctua fans and we

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probably could have found out if there was any purpose to this whatsoever by

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just using chilled air at the intake and seeing if the image quality improves

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yeah oh i see yeah oh that's really tough really tight yeah

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so this has to go on here but this heat

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pipe has to go over on this side but i have to put in a screw on the back of

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this we're gonna have to bend your heat pipes alex no we have to nope

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we don't do we have enough clearance there no i think you're right

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okay yeah we gotta lock it off fun

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oh i wonder if i can just use the pliers to turn the head of the screw alex i

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wish these were spring-loaded can you get around it oh yeah there we

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go okay we've defeated the nubbin so now we can do a double check here okay it's

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not supposed to be a pry tool some of them even say it on the side have you

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ever seen anyone use anything except for a flathead screwdriver to open up a

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paint can yes they have paint can opening tools that sounds stupid

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i don't think you actually put any in the holes really i guess that of the two

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of us you have more experience you know critiquing others or well i was going to

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say just like you have three children so the problem is that the implement's a

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bit too big i also have a lot of experience with that problem don't miss

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this this is the double penetration moment oh boy

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oh we can't leave that in the video

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okay i'll just get in there give it a little wipe this is how all the pro

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chefs do it they just make an absolute mess on your plate and they come in with

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a paper towel afterwards

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should we wait for that to dry no okay

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is there enough clearance for this heatsink yep oh you sound very confident

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so mr david from a camera person's perspective uh which where do you want

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the tubing coming out uh anywhere in those fans is fine anywhere yeah the

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camera will sit on this yeah uh and so if this if it comes out here that's fine

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so right side left side makes no difference to you okay and i bet if you just take out one

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of them i can probably put both i don't know if the side cutters are

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gonna work i don't know if you're gonna work did you not see the rack over there

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when you came in what rock that's where you can check your attitude wow all

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right so how long do we think this needs to be like that that's reasonable right

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i would just make it longer just for fun sure i think

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the hardest part is done and now we're just reassembling it if you know that

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what you're saying necessitates a knock on wood

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why would you say it drama for the video i guess

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i don't need that drama what is the purpose of these labels i don't need to

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know what they do i just need to it says like what it is on the stuff ah i see

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wait what you got porton starboard confused

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can we all agree that those connectors go right there

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that does look correct yes

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damn it alex where the hell does this go

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you still have no recollection of this do you none at all

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is it possible it's where you did all your cable management i think it goes

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right in there oh crap wires kind of get managed so sorry i just poked it back

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through that was my bad i i poked it with my feet oh geez yeah it liked it

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though wow not required

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oh balls oh easy easy easy easy oh did i go too

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far you might have gone too far does it matter it doesn't really okay cool uh

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editor could i get it so off comes the block again like just

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like is it worth just like

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getting a little bit more i know for a fact that engineers at red

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will watch this video oh yeah realistically though guys this was the

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best outcome you could have possibly hoped for yeah like even though this is

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like in some ways the jankiest thing we've done in a really long time

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in other ways it's the least janky thing we've done in quite a long time we could

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just cut out all of the bad stuff editor

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david senses something bad about to happen turns the camera on no i've got

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this david hey shut up

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you realize that ring's turning your mouth all blue

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yeah but this is my dessert for my lunch i was a good boy i ate all my lunch

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this is the one we needed to massage a bit i believe

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i'd say you probably still need to do a fair bit there

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that's so loud so much sucking

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i'll lose my mouth right now uh eight out of ten blue

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suck on that

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uh so does it reach now

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yes i knew that from the beginning i was never concerned at all that this

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wouldn't fit how'd you even get that through there

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jeez okay wi-fi antenna connected

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fan connector number one

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connected connected all right thank you for that ouch okay

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uh should we screw this in no okay we're quite sure that this heat

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pipe isn't going to touch the back of that pcb right

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uh where's electrical tape

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that's your solution it's not my only solution

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perfect in yes perfect no

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we can just use the pcb as we screw it down to push that heat pipe in the last

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couple millimeters oh no

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so problem you didn't think about how to get this out of the body we forgot you

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forgot we forgot i never knew oh no

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oh so

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we're really close now so close in fact that andy is actually

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tearing down the camera we've been shooting on so that we can steal all the

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accessories and hook them up to this one

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and find out if it actually works

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so we're shooting on a plebeian canon

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c200 now the side's completely closed up it's

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actually looking pretty finished right about now you'd never know there was

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anything funky about it other than the giant tubes hanging out the back all

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right one two three here you go oh my god

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now things getting sexy

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here's the plan okay so

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what

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hi i'm being slow clapped right now what can i do for you

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it was painted so nice so while alex is off looking for a funnel we're gonna

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fill the loop the manly way why can't you just wait for me to go and get a

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funnel and then we can do it right there's enough things that can go wrong here without you just pouring it

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straight in the hole

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he's back with his stupid funnel what a weakling oh crap okay power it off power

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it off um how do i power it off you hold it oh whoa whoa hold on we got okay

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power it off anyway power it off anyway i don't want to burn out this pump yeah just hold it down hold it down well just

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pour what no i can't i can't it doesn't work that way the pump's not pumping

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well it's not dead yet yeah

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let's just try to bleed the rad all right

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is that working yep that's working okay

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just bite it off

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i kind of wish i had a bubble to watch move you know oh there it is oh yeah hey

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some of it hey there's the rest of it there it goes oh yep yeah if that one

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was in your vein you'd die okay

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oh that was gross yeah did i just launch a snot rocket where'd that go i think it

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went on the floor no i'll save you for later

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so this is it then it's time to power on this camera and find out if we made it

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better or worse and now you might immediately

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point at the giant cooling box that we have hanging off it and say well it's

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definitely worse but i would direct your attention to this

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photograph of our camera operator would another box hanging off of him

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really make a difference probably not so we are getting a fan

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drive error but that's okay we knew that that was happening so whether that's the

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knock to us up here or the pump or the fan here they might not be hitting the

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RPM that red is expecting but in terms of the cooling performance we are

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sitting at a mere 31-33 degrees right now so everything

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seems to be working as we'd expect but red actually has their own built-in fan

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speed control so when you're recording it should actually drop the speed of the

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fan so just acid test time like are you ready

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to find out well we're now recording

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it doesn't seem to be dropping oh it's a setting oh alex what are you doing cutting the

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low fan noise yeah you see that we don't need it it's loud right now let me just change

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it to quiet mode outright that did not make it quiet you can put

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your low noise adapter on it wait is this just a three pin fan

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so i go ahead and press record now then right here we go we are now recording

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8k footage hey

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it's a mexican standoff

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who's gonna shoot first trick question we're both shooting

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already so i am locked at 35 degrees

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right now damn 35.55

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what are you at 38.55

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so then i guess all that's left to do now is our full suite of temperature

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acoustic and image quality testing to find out what if anything has changed

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since we water cooled the camera i cannot believe that this worked this

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was easily the hardest thing like the hardest project we've ever done but so

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many things that we did just had such a high probability of not

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working is it safe to say mission accomplished yet i'm still at 35 i think it's safe to

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say i'm not 35 yeah we don't even need to do

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a whole lot of other stuff we can just be like yeah here's the graphs it's

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better for testing before and after we ran the

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camera for 30 minutes in a climate-controlled room in both

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situations our sensor temp stayed rock-solid at 39 degrees celsius which

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is great given that changes in temperature can affect the image quality

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slightly but what was really impressive about our

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water cooled camera was the noise our initial test had the camera slowly

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get louder and louder during the shot in order to maintain that sensor

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temperature up to 46 decibels in our testing our

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water cooled camera however never even got over the 34 decibel noise floor of

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the office we were testing in that is damn impressive

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huge thanks by the way to joe from solidworks for helping us with the flow

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stimulations oh canada tool supply for supplying well many of the tools

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alphacool for their tiny cooling components and of course Noctua for

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their silent fans maingear's element gaming laptop is available at 25 micro

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center locations as well as on amazon it features an Intel core i7 9750h

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processor GeForce rtx 2070 max q graphics 32 gigs of RAM a 2 terabyte

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NVMe SSD and if you buy it at your nearest micro center store you can save

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an additional hundred dollars in fact you can even save an additional hundred

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dollars if you buy it at a micro center store that isn't the nearest one to you

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wow so check it out and other micro center specials at the link in the video

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description i mean they're not going to check your id and make sure that it's

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the closest one come on so thanks for watching guys if you enjoyed this video

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maybe check out one of our other cool water cooling projects where we liquid

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cooled a network switch that one was we thought that one was

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challenging at the time yeah it's still working too it's in there yeah that's

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actually running in our in our camera den right now and for a 10 gig switch

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quiet really quiet