WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.810 - It's retro time! I don't know how many of you are 00:00:03.810 --> 00:00:09.650 nineties kids, but when I first saw this whole thing, it was kind of mind blowing. 00:00:09.650 --> 00:00:13.620 Like, why are there three? Why is it this? 00:00:13.620 --> 00:00:18.440 Why can't I use this? I mean, it's a classic 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:26.080 but it doesn't mean that it can't be improved upon Enter, the Retro Fighters Brawler 64 Wireless Edition. 00:00:27.050 --> 00:00:32.250 Now this is wireless, like it says and it is a complete redesign 00:00:32.250 --> 00:00:35.760 of the original Nintendo 64 controller. 00:00:35.760 --> 00:00:39.600 In fact, it looks more like a switch pro controller than anything else. 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:42.000 - [Jono] I thought third-party controllers suck. 00:00:43.489 --> 00:00:50.800 - Yeah. Third party controllers usually do suck. This is a, my super pad, 64 from back in the day. 00:00:50.800 --> 00:00:55.223 Oh, that's so rough. Oh, all the buttons feel terrible. 00:00:56.060 --> 00:01:00.260 This is the controller that I would've used for my sister or somebody. 00:01:00.260 --> 00:01:03.720 It's not good. For Christmas one year. 00:01:03.720 --> 00:01:07.640 I think my dad got it for me. Sorry, dad. This is a third-party controller. 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.840 Yes, but it's a third-party controller developed 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:15.160 by fans of the console and of retro gaming. 00:01:15.160 --> 00:01:18.200 Obviously we also have the Retro Fighters StrikerDC 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:21.780 over here, which I think was their first controller? Didn't bring my Dreamcast today. 00:01:21.780 --> 00:01:24.993 Cause I didn't think we'd have them on set but there you go. 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.680 The back of the box here, it's the next generation N64 controller. 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:33.650 And I think that they are not lying. 2.4 gigahertz wireless technology. 00:01:33.650 --> 00:01:38.553 Well, I mean, that's pretty standard for wireless but hopefully that means it's zero lag. 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:43.550 Wireless range over 30 feet. That's great. Ergonomic and comfortable design. 00:01:43.550 --> 00:01:47.030 We shall see. Compatible with memory packs. That is huge 00:01:47.030 --> 00:01:51.010 because like when was the last time this socket 00:01:51.010 --> 00:01:54.030 whatever connector has been made, like, I mean 00:01:54.030 --> 00:01:59.294 that's a Nintendo proprietary thing, I am sure. Responsible and responsible. 00:01:59.294 --> 00:02:02.780 (laughter) Responsive analog stick. 00:02:02.780 --> 00:02:07.080 Which if you compare to this third party thing, like 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.333 Oh, you can hear that it's creaking. 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:19.063 I don't know how much that comes through, but it's it's a bad experience. 00:02:20.330 --> 00:02:21.630 Let's take a look at this. 00:02:26.290 --> 00:02:31.640 All right. So obviously we've got the red plastic one. I'm just going to take it out of the tray here and lay it 00:02:31.640 --> 00:02:35.310 to the side. We've got this. Ooh, a little key chain. 00:02:35.310 --> 00:02:38.840 It's like a little, a little pixelated figure. I think that's one of the mascots. 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.550 Oh, approximately the 2.5 hours of fully charged. Oh to fully charged the battery. 00:02:43.550 --> 00:02:48.200 Approximately 10 plus hours before you need to recharge. Oh, this is really cool. 00:02:48.200 --> 00:02:52.270 Instead of having a, like N64 memory pack 00:02:52.270 --> 00:02:56.140 adapters slot in the back here, it's got it on 00:02:57.210 --> 00:03:02.010 the connector. So it just goes straight in like that. 00:03:02.010 --> 00:03:06.740 And it like stands up. Like it plugs in vertically 00:03:06.740 --> 00:03:10.490 and I actually have my old memory card 00:03:10.490 --> 00:03:13.960 but that you have just go straight in like that. 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:19.090 No clip or anything. Cause you don't really need it. You're not like banging it around. 00:03:19.090 --> 00:03:22.610 Like you might with an N64 controller 00:03:22.610 --> 00:03:27.033 because this is connected directly into the console and oh, 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:32.240 oh the feel, the feel is much nicer. Like the plastic feels 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:37.160 like it's got a kind of a cheapish texture but it's actually more like a satin finish. 00:03:37.160 --> 00:03:41.770 You can tell that-- I'm trying to like flex it and it's not 00:03:41.770 --> 00:03:45.233 it's not flexing like at all, basically. 00:03:46.140 --> 00:03:50.993 It is, it is solid plastic. Compare that to my original N64 controller. 00:03:52.440 --> 00:03:56.560 Yeah. It's waving to you. Triggers feel-- 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:02.530 little less snap to them than the in 64 controller. Face buttons, they're a bit snappier. 00:04:02.530 --> 00:04:07.500 Yeah. Yeah. The original N64 face buttons were a little bit mushier than this. 00:04:07.500 --> 00:04:11.210 So that'll be interesting to see how that plays out in gameplay. 00:04:11.210 --> 00:04:15.170 It'll probably break in over time but I remember this being always kind of mushy 00:04:17.320 --> 00:04:24.360 164 grams. That is 0.361 pounds or 5.7 ounces. 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:29.360 0.182 grams or 0.401 pounds or 6.4 ounces. 00:04:30.970 --> 00:04:34.710 So that's significant. And if I add the cable, that's like 00:04:34.710 --> 00:04:38.470 what is it like twenty-five percent more? - [Jono] They both don't have rumble. 00:04:38.470 --> 00:04:42.070 That's true. They both don't have rumble. The main thing about the Rumble Pack, was 00:04:42.070 --> 00:04:47.450 that it was actually an add-on so you'd have to plug it into this slot here. 00:04:47.450 --> 00:04:51.210 Even if this had rumble built into it the game would need to support it. 00:04:51.210 --> 00:04:56.024 And you wouldn't be able to use a memory card at the same time the memory card slot or the expansion slot 00:04:56.024 --> 00:05:01.450 I guess, controller expansion pack, only slotted in one device 00:05:01.450 --> 00:05:04.500 at a time there was no hub or split or anything like that 00:05:04.500 --> 00:05:07.810 that was available. Games that support both a memory card and a rumble pack, 00:05:07.810 --> 00:05:11.230 you had to remove your memory card and insert Rumble Pack for game play. 00:05:11.230 --> 00:05:16.360 Then when it came time to save or move your Rumble Pack and insert your memory card to save. 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:20.480 Well, let's just we had to put up with back then. - [Jono] Not on PS1! 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:25.220 Yeah, because Sony had to like one-up Nintendo and actually make a standard 00:05:25.220 --> 00:05:28.750 for controller design that lasted. 00:05:28.750 --> 00:05:33.750 I'm like, ah, well that, which nobody wants to touch. 00:05:39.098 --> 00:05:43.690 (laughter) There's the charging cable and it's along with everything else, 00:05:43.690 --> 00:05:48.720 this is type C like holy crap. And it obviously comes in a multiple different colors. 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:51.821 This here is the classic one that actually looks pretty classy. 00:05:51.821 --> 00:05:55.860 Yeah. 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This is why we need a Retro Tank 5X Pro. 00:06:31.910 --> 00:06:35.217 You know what? GoldenEye has a sixteen by nine mode. - [David] What? 00:06:35.217 --> 00:06:38.240 (laughter) - Did you know that? - [David] No. 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:41.780 - It does. - [David] That's awesome. - Check this out. 00:06:41.780 --> 00:06:43.863 Oh God. The frame rate's so bad. 00:06:44.900 --> 00:06:49.660 Did I change the control scheme back? What control scheme did I like? Was it kissy? Okay. I'm just going to change this to 00:06:49.660 --> 00:06:52.660 the default control scheme. I don't remember how to play this anymore. 00:06:52.660 --> 00:06:53.943 With that control scheme. 00:06:59.460 --> 00:07:02.763 This is not the most precise controller. 00:07:04.340 --> 00:07:07.950 Okay. I think that's enough of that. Let's try sniping with the other one. 00:07:07.950 --> 00:07:11.346 There we go. Here we go. All right. 00:07:11.346 --> 00:07:16.550 Just pick right up. Yeah. The C buttons are a little rough, but this stick 00:07:16.550 --> 00:07:21.570 is way nicer. It is super easy to move that cursor around. 00:07:21.570 --> 00:07:28.010 I can't see the thing is like smudged. The game is so blurry except I know this is how 00:07:28.010 --> 00:07:32.370 it's supposed to look because there are people who actually 00:07:32.370 --> 00:07:38.750 go out of their way to make it look, not like this. However, I will say the stick feels amazing. 00:07:38.750 --> 00:07:45.030 The C buttons will take a little bit of getting used to. They're a little bit snappier than I would prefer. 00:07:45.030 --> 00:07:49.580 I kind of prefer them a little bit mushy like the N64 controller, but that could just be like force 00:07:49.580 --> 00:07:53.590 of habit, but yeah, GoldenEye in sixteen by nine. How about that? 00:07:53.590 --> 00:07:59.083 Okay. So, okay. Let, let me, let me just quickly try the bad controller. 00:08:00.330 --> 00:08:03.670 Oh no. Is it as bad as I think it is? 00:08:03.670 --> 00:08:09.460 Or am I just hamming it up? Like if I try to aim like, each one 00:08:09.460 --> 00:08:15.630 of these little steps that I'm doing is the controller, like the stick, like moving a little bit because 00:08:15.630 --> 00:08:20.020 it's like stuck. Little, little motions I'm trying to make. 00:08:20.020 --> 00:08:23.640 I cannot do because This thing is so 00:08:23.640 --> 00:08:28.020 bad. Like I'm not, I'm not even kidding. The ergonomics of this controller is so bad 00:08:28.020 --> 00:08:31.530 that it actually hurts. God. This stick is super tall too. 00:08:31.530 --> 00:08:35.080 It's stupid. Oh, that feels so much better. 00:08:36.070 --> 00:08:40.240 It's almost like putting on an ice pack. Okay. Let's try something less shootery and more 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:44.220 drivery that should that should maybe give the performance pat, a bit of a-- 00:08:44.220 --> 00:08:48.710 I dunno. Oh, my saves are, wait. 00:08:48.710 --> 00:08:51.900 Yeah, they are still here. There's my sister and there's me. 00:08:51.900 --> 00:08:54.945 I need a game. Like I need a game shark, like right now to copy all the off 00:08:54.945 --> 00:08:59.340 of this onto a new memory card, because this thing is going to die any day. 00:08:59.340 --> 00:09:04.280 Seriously, these, are bad battery backs. Like this is a CR 2032 from back in the day. 00:09:04.280 --> 00:09:06.420 I need to get these saves off of here 00:09:07.490 --> 00:09:08.323 Anyway. 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:17.000 Okay. So just flying around, this feels pretty normal but I mean, I'm using a normal N64 controller. 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:21.527 Let's let's swap out to the Retro Fighters and see how that feels. 00:09:21.527 --> 00:09:24.203 - [Jono] It said not to swap it out during gameplay. 00:09:26.180 --> 00:09:27.453 - My saves! 00:09:29.620 --> 00:09:32.680 Oh. (laughter) 00:09:32.680 --> 00:09:38.250 Okay. I think I grabbed it by the power pack and that made it like it jostled a little bit. 00:09:38.250 --> 00:09:39.940 Let me make sure that the saves are 00:09:41.630 --> 00:09:45.983 We can test the functionality - [Jono] I'm gonna feel so sad if it's all gone. 00:09:45.983 --> 00:09:50.770 - [David] Come on, game! - [All] Yeah! 00:09:50.770 --> 00:09:56.000 - I need to, I need to get a game shark like, now. I'm not-- I don't remember how to play this game 00:09:57.410 --> 00:10:01.220 but like, I can actually like make subtle movements with it. 00:10:01.220 --> 00:10:04.680 Like I don't have to be like banking completely all the time. 00:10:04.680 --> 00:10:07.580 Like I can just of sort of smoothly do it 00:10:09.050 --> 00:10:12.840 which is not something I can do with the N64 controller that I had. 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:15.703 Yeah. Don't grab it by the power. That's a, that's a bad idea. 00:10:16.740 --> 00:10:19.333 Yeah. Actually this is, this is pretty easy to play. I like it. 00:10:20.220 --> 00:10:24.630 I don't know why I didn't like it as much as Mario Kart, maybe because of the frame rate. 00:10:24.630 --> 00:10:26.730 So they try again with the Retro Fighters. 00:10:28.683 --> 00:10:31.810 Oh, oh no, it did do that. 00:10:31.810 --> 00:10:38.290 Oh, interesting. So the amount of power that required caused my old N64 to blip 00:10:38.290 --> 00:10:41.640 out for a second there. Probably because of old capacitors in this thing 00:10:41.640 --> 00:10:45.901 but that is something that you'd have to bear in mind. Is that a, it does require power 00:10:45.901 --> 00:10:48.733 more power than a normal controller would. 00:10:50.219 --> 00:10:51.919 - [Jono] Dude, look at that drift! 00:10:53.340 --> 00:10:56.900 How does it feel? - It feels good. It's it's a little bit weird. 00:10:56.900 --> 00:11:02.090 Cause I'm still not used to the position of the Z button. 00:11:02.090 --> 00:11:05.480 The fact that I can get to every button on the controller is really nice. 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.080 I don't know why Nintendo didn't let you do that before 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:14.200 but like, yeah, I can take that turn and I don't have to be like constantly like back and forth like that. 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:19.210 I can be like, yeah. Well, I came in first this time and I came 00:11:19.210 --> 00:11:24.380 in second last time. So I guess that's a win for the Retro Fighters. 00:11:24.380 --> 00:11:27.460 I'm not going to try this. I know that was a meme. I'm not going to try this. 00:11:27.460 --> 00:11:31.570 I don't know. What's the price of these things? 00:11:31.570 --> 00:11:35.293 I feel if they're 50 bucks - [David] In my head, it's 50 bucks. It's $39.99. 00:11:36.470 --> 00:11:42.020 - Oh wow! Okay. Well at 40 bucks, this thing is a steal. 00:11:42.020 --> 00:11:46.250 Let me tell you that right now, if you get 10 hours of battery on this for charge and you can plug it 00:11:46.250 --> 00:11:49.880 into a computer and you can, can you, can you can you give me your laptop real quick? 00:11:49.880 --> 00:11:54.823 I want to see if I can, like, this thing is cheap but it's cheaply made like it's solid. 00:11:55.690 --> 00:11:59.337 See if it shows up, maybe I need to-- 00:12:00.370 --> 00:12:03.393 On this? It may purely be for charging. 00:12:04.260 --> 00:12:07.440 In which case, I mean, it's not a huge deal. 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:12.253 If you have an N64 to USB adapter, this will work. 00:12:13.930 --> 00:12:16.750 - [David] Wait, we have one don't we? - Do we? - [David] Let's see. 00:12:17.820 --> 00:12:19.123 All right. 00:12:21.540 --> 00:12:24.584 We're setting up for play port one. Hmm. Foreplay. 00:12:24.584 --> 00:12:27.473 Game controller settings, properties. 00:12:28.380 --> 00:12:33.590 It's not that one. Oh man. I may need the power supply for this. 00:12:33.590 --> 00:12:40.560 - [David] It's not worth it. - Yeah. It might be that this requires too much power. Just like when I plug it into the N64, it 00:12:40.560 --> 00:12:43.930 does this whole thing. Oh, it didn't do it this time. 00:12:44.890 --> 00:12:49.930 This thing is amazing. Like there's so much more precise control you can get 00:12:49.930 --> 00:12:55.040 for the N64. This feels so much more freeing. 00:12:55.040 --> 00:12:58.870 It's difficult to really describe how much better it is. 00:12:58.870 --> 00:13:03.270 And at $39, if you've got an N64, you really 00:13:03.270 --> 00:13:08.897 probably should look at it. And it's wireless. Like you get a wireless controller 00:13:08.897 --> 00:13:13.703 and the color of your choice, that is solid. 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:21.730 And if you've got an old N64 that you're trying to run and you've got like a creaky old controller that, you know 00:13:21.730 --> 00:13:26.340 may or may not still be useful, it seems like a no-brainer because like buying one 00:13:26.340 --> 00:13:29.650 of these in reasonable condition is going to 00:13:29.650 --> 00:13:34.080 be roughly the same price, probably. Can't speak to the quality of the Hyperkins 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:38.150 but I can speak to the quality of this. This is amazing. 00:13:38.150 --> 00:13:43.321 And I would recommend it. And that's it for this one. I don't know if we want to do one on this. 00:13:43.321 --> 00:13:46.430 I dunno. Let me know if you want to do more retro stuff like this. 00:13:46.430 --> 00:13:50.530 I mean, it doesn't seem to do that great. But if you want it, we'll do it. 00:13:50.530 --> 00:13:54.193 Thanks for watching and subscribe. Mm, foreplay.