WEBVTT

00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.879
this is an ASUS zenith extreme

00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:11.440
a 550 dollar

00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:14.320
x399 motherboard for AMD's threadripper

00:00:11.440 --> 00:00:18.720
CPU it was returned to me from one of the writers

00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:19.760
and i was informed that it no longer

00:00:18.720 --> 00:00:27.450
works uh okay well this is going to be and it's pretty anticlimactic here

00:00:24.400 --> 00:00:33.840
i fixed it

00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:40.320
hp's new omen x lineup comes equipped with Intel's seventh generation core i7

00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:44.079
processors check them out at the link below

00:00:42.160 --> 00:00:50.239
so what you observed just there was one of the many

00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:53.840
peculiarities when it comes to bent pins

00:00:50.239 --> 00:00:57.920
in a modern lga type CPU socket it can

00:00:53.840 --> 00:01:00.879
manifest in any number of ways a failure

00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:07.439
to post altogether an inability to detect memory inserted into certain

00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:09.920
slots that one's actually very common or

00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:17.439
the system can appear to be functioning completely normally all cores detected

00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:20.240
all 128 gigs of RAM detected

00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:23.600
the reason for this is that every CPU pin

00:01:21.119 --> 00:01:27.600
has a slightly different function some of them are wired directly through

00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:31.520
traces on the motherboard which you can actually see there's tons of traces

00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:37.680
around a CPU socket to a contact point on a memory slot some of

00:01:34.479 --> 00:01:42.720
them serve redundant purposes like to

00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:45.680
act as a ground pin while others

00:01:42.720 --> 00:01:50.079
may have no functionality whatsoever like they might be reserved for a future

00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:53.119
CPU that might go into that socket with some

00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:58.560
feature that might not ever get implemented so that

00:01:55.520 --> 00:02:01.840
is why the symptoms of a bent CPU pin

00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:05.920
can be as obvious as the system

00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:07.680
not lighting up at all or as subtle as

00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:10.720
slightly less stability when you're heavily overclocked

00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:16.400
so one way or another

00:02:13.440 --> 00:02:22.239
we need to fix this pin so no big deal Linus send it into the

00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:23.760
manufacturer for repairs right wrong

00:02:22.239 --> 00:02:28.720
first of all physical damage to the product is not

00:02:26.160 --> 00:02:33.519
covered by any motherboard manufacturer that i'm aware of and they all consider

00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:37.440
socket damage to be physical damage and number two

00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:44.319
is an out of warranty repair to a CPU socket can cost as much as

00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:46.319
350 dollars that's what i got quoted

00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:51.200
when i wanted to repair a socket on an x99 ews motherboard even though it was a

00:02:49.200 --> 00:02:56.480
400 board i'm not going to run out and spend 350 dollars so that i can have a b

00:02:54.560 --> 00:03:01.920
stock board when it cost me 50 more dollars to just go buy a brand new one

00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:05.519
so then with that in mind what do you

00:03:01.920 --> 00:03:08.239
need to repair your own bent socket pins

00:03:05.519 --> 00:03:13.599
really with a steady hand and a sewing needle you can probably do a pretty good

00:03:10.640 --> 00:03:19.040
job but i've used everything from a pocket knife

00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:21.440
to a sim removal tool to a thumb tack in

00:03:19.040 --> 00:03:25.280
order to bend back pins and i've done it with all of those with success i even

00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:30.959
used the pointy tweezers from an ifixit kit once

00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:35.360
for today we're going to be using these picks that i actually just found here in

00:03:33.440 --> 00:03:39.599
the workshop organization's beautiful right you're gonna save us so much time

00:03:36.959 --> 00:03:43.920
in the future yeah it was super exciting and we're gonna be using these helping

00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:48.959
hands with a magnifying glass something that i also recently bought just in case

00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:53.680
someone bent a socket pin and they did so one of the trickiest parts of any

00:03:50.959 --> 00:03:58.799
socket repair operation is figuring out where the bent pins are the best way to

00:03:55.840 --> 00:04:02.640
do that is to get down low level with the socket

00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:07.200
so that you can see whether it's straight across this way straight across

00:04:04.480 --> 00:04:11.920
that way or at a diagonal you can see the gaps between the rows of pins that's

00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:16.639
going to make it easier for your eye to pick out any imperfections for our case

00:04:14.480 --> 00:04:20.079
we know exactly where it is so we're going to get up above it now we need to

00:04:18.400 --> 00:04:24.960
assess the damage so we're just going to prod at it a little bit and this one

00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:29.680
seems pretty obvious so you can see there's an even row of pins here and

00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:34.639
even row pins here and then here there's a missing one now if this pin was broken

00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:39.840
off we'd be in much rougher shape right now but you can actually see that it's

00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:44.400
not it's just bent down so we just got to find

00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:46.080
where it bent down to looks like uh

00:04:44.400 --> 00:04:50.080
looks like it's down right there wow that is

00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:53.840
that is dug in pretty deep there now there is always a risk

00:04:52.479 --> 00:04:57.120
when you're working on something like this

00:04:55.520 --> 00:05:00.720
that you will accidentally bend some other pins in the process

00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:04.000
as long as you're careful it shouldn't happen

00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:08.720
this pick might not actually be fine enough for me here i'm gonna go back to

00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:13.199
my trusty knife i actually use the knife more often than

00:05:11.280 --> 00:05:17.520
you'd probably think for this sort of thing so you want something that you can use

00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:23.520
to get under the pin to pull it up there so you can

00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:26.720
see i've pulled it up off the bottom now but

00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:30.960
it's not quite aligned with the other pins so the chances of it

00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:35.919
making perfect contact with the pads on the bottom of the CPU is pretty low now

00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:42.400
that we've pried it up from the side the easiest way to attack it now is to go at

00:05:39.039 --> 00:05:45.199
it from underneath head on that way you

00:05:42.400 --> 00:05:50.080
can over bend it up a little bit so you want to come under it this way now

00:05:47.440 --> 00:05:53.360
and over bend it up a bit because it's metal so

00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:57.280
you can't just bend it to exactly where you want it

00:05:54.720 --> 00:06:02.240
and then expect it to stay there okay cool that was exactly the desired result

00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:07.440
there is we bent it up a little higher than we wanted and it settled right back

00:06:04.479 --> 00:06:11.360
in exactly where it's supposed to be so now we can check the alignment of the

00:06:10.479 --> 00:06:15.520
pins and we see a nice little bright dot

00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:19.120
exactly where we expected perfectly aligned

00:06:16.960 --> 00:06:23.360
let's go test it and we're back the system works

00:06:26.080 --> 00:06:33.520
very good Linus you fixed a working motherboard ah

00:06:31.440 --> 00:06:38.560
i have another trick for you up my sleeve this

00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:44.319
is a sacrificial board from a project we never did because someone

00:06:41.919 --> 00:06:50.080
a different member of our writing staff didn't realize that this motherboard

00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:54.080
wasn't going to fit into any standard cases

00:06:52.560 --> 00:07:01.440
so what we're going to do is we're going to simulate what would be a pretty common way to

00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:03.199
damage a CPU socket oops that one was

00:07:01.440 --> 00:07:09.599
actually accidental dropping the CPU as you go to install

00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:14.160
oh okay yeah we definitely hit one let's try again

00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:18.800
okay i'm having a pretty hard time uh mangling the socket here

00:07:16.960 --> 00:07:23.759
now that that is a bent socket

00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:27.520
let's try and fix it shall we something people might notice about this

00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:32.240
second round of repair here is that i'm not even necessarily going

00:07:29.520 --> 00:07:35.840
to try and get it exactly perfect because what you're going to realize

00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:41.039
is that the contact pads on the bottom of the CPU are actually reasonably big i

00:07:39.280 --> 00:07:46.639
mean they're not huge you still need to get pretty darn close

00:07:43.440 --> 00:07:48.560
but if you are pretty close

00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:53.840
and you remember too that when you put the CPU in it pushes down

00:07:51.919 --> 00:07:57.440
into the lga the land grid array then as long as

00:07:56.479 --> 00:08:02.879
you're good enough that once it gets pushed down a bit it'll be in pretty much the

00:08:01.280 --> 00:08:07.440
right spot then you should be good enough

00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:13.000
whoops this guy over here is probably still a

00:08:08.960 --> 00:08:13.000
little bit too far out of alignment

00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:20.639
now you want to make sure that you don't bend them down and up and down and up

00:08:19.039 --> 00:08:25.199
too much because if you do that they lose their

00:08:22.400 --> 00:08:29.840
strength and can eventually break off you can recover from that i have done it

00:08:27.840 --> 00:08:33.200
by straightening out the shape of the pin

00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:36.640
as long as there's enough left to get to the contact point

00:08:34.640 --> 00:08:41.519
but it's not a sure thing and i did end up with a board that

00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:44.080
i snapped off the top of the pad and uh

00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:48.000
was not able to resurrect another key thing to watch out for when you're

00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:52.080
looking for bent pins is that there are places where pins are missing

00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:55.360
intentionally so it's always good to double check against a socket diagram

00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:59.680
like see this corner right here there's no pin there that's fine

00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:02.320
or another perfect socket that you have on hand

00:09:00.880 --> 00:09:04.800
okay moment of truth time

00:09:03.920 --> 00:09:10.880
okay there we go that beep is a good sign

00:09:08.800 --> 00:09:15.760
and CPU detected two gigs of memory

00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:19.360
yeah that's right repaired motherboard

00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:25.360
so that's pretty much it guys how to bring your motherboard back from the

00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:32.160
dead assuming that there aren't other issues on it like blown capacitors or

00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.600
fizzled out resistors and

00:09:32.160 --> 00:09:38.240
thanks for watching now let's say for a minute you make your

00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:42.240
money doing like small-time computer repair like this for

00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:46.959
others well then you want to check out freshbooks freshbooks is the cloud-based

00:09:44.800 --> 00:09:53.440
accounting solution that lets you get paid faster be more organized and be

00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:56.160
more productive spend your time doing

00:09:53.440 --> 00:10:00.399
work so you can get paid like you can track your hours on a job you can build

00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:05.360
a client through the platform you can even see when the client has seen the

00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:09.120
invoice instead of spending your time fighting with a complicated accounting

00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:12.880
solution at the end of the day when your brain's tired and you just plain don't

00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:18.079
feel like it the best thing about freshbooks is you can try it out for 30

00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:20.640
days for free by going to freshbooks.com

00:10:18.079 --> 00:10:24.640
tech tips and entering Linus tech tips in the how you heard about us section

00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:28.720
so thanks for watching guys if you dislike this video you can hit that button but if you liked it hit the like

00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:32.959
button get subscribed maybe consider checking out where to buy that motherboards at the link in the video

00:10:31.839 --> 00:10:37.279
description just in case this doesn't work for you

00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:44.079
also down there we have a link to our merch store which has cool shirts like this one as well as our community forum

00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:44.079
which you should totally join
