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Intel what the heck are you doing

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you finally brought 10 nanometer to a high-powered CPU end

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according to our testing it's the fastest gaming processor you can get in

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a laptop but to show it off you sent us this

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this undercooled underpowered sad excuse

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of a gaming laptop that i would be embarrassed to put my logo on do you

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have any idea how close we were to declaring your 11th gen h series

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processors uncompetitive crap thankfully

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for you before we could publish we got a proper gaming laptop thank you Gigabyte

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that manages to outperform this core i9

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junk pile in spite of the fact that it only has a core i7

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an incident that really drives home how you

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and NVIDIA and AMD for that matter have made the process of buying a laptop an

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inscrutable mess where everything is made up and the specs don't matter

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let's kick off with the good news the core i7 11800h and our Gigabyte ars15p

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here is a beast i mean honestly i

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thought our ASUS strixgard g733 with his AMD ryzen 5900 ajax would ground pound

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this poor thing but that was not the case at all

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both laptops feature an NVIDIA rtx 3080 with a 130 watt TDP and in our selection

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of CPU bound games the i7 took a convincing lead in every

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single one but how

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in a big shocker to everyone maybe even themselves Intel finally shipped a high

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performance CPU that isn't on 14

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nanometer this this is 10 nanometer super finfet baby

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and it's real good i i'm i'm still surprised i mean after

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Intel promised that rocket lake would be 20 faster and then that turned into 20

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faster in certain avx workloads but

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actually overall the same or slightly worse

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i didn't think this could happen but our tests don't lie

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now i should mention that we don't have a proper 10th gen CPU from Intel to test

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directly against but the thing is a new champion only has

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to defeat the previous champion so

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i guess we don't really need one moving on in spec workstation an hours

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long CPU test that runs through a wide variety of workstation tasks the i7

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11800h which has the same eight cores

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and 16 threads bested the ryzen 9 5900x

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in the vast majority of tasks now there are certainly still places that ryzen is

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king heavily multi-threaded applications like video or photo rendering continue

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to favor team red but it seems like Intel has done a really good job of

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boosting hard in single threaded or even

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moderately threaded workloads so situations where four cores are getting

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hit instead of all eight are where Intel shines

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back to the point i was making earlier however you want to know what else our

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Intel core i7 11800h bested in nearly

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every test the core i9 11 980 hk

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yes i too was surprised at first but then

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looking at the two laptops we have on hand the reason is fairly obvious the

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auras 15p offers significantly more cooling and power to its i7 than our MSI

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made Intel reference system gives to its i9 and with how dependent these 11th gen

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chips are on aggressively turboing that's going to have an outsized impact

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on performance i mean i get the point that Intel was

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trying to make sending this slim sexy

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reference system they wanted to show us that they could compete with this new

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class of high-performance thinning lights that AMD currently dominates with

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designs like the rog flow x13

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but what they ended up showing us is that

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no they actually can't because the secret sauce that makes an

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eight-core CPU perform well in a design like this

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is efficiency and Intel is still

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struggling to deliver this is a problem industry-wide right now with NVIDIA's

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3000 series mobile processors being a prime example there are real world

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situations where an rtx 3070 mobile can

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outperform an rtx 3080 mobile that is if

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the 3070 gets more power and more cooling now under pressure from

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customers and media NVIDIA has started disclosing the tdps of their mobile gpus

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on a product by product basis so this problem has been addressed somewhat but

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it hasn't been entirely solved and it's

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a lot more complicated with cpus now i

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could advocate for strict adherents by oems to stick to Intel's TDP similar to

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the multi-threaded enhancement debacle with the 8th gen desktop chips but the

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issue is that in laptops i don't actually think everyone completely

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playing by the rules is a good solution this would bring CPU temperatures down

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across the board on laptops and it would make comparison shopping between various

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devices easier but it would also mean that performance

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is being left on the table i i mean i still don't like it but outside of the

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biggest beefiest laptops a mobile CPU is

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supposed to be at or close to 100 degrees under full load that's when it's

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performing its best and given that all the macbook pros from 2016 aren't dead

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yet it stands to reason that running at 80 degrees probably isn't necessary

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so then what needs to change is how mobile cpus are marketed

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having a core i9 11 980 hk that can

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boost up to 4.9 gigahertz on four cores

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that sounds amazing but having four cores that boost to 4.9

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gigahertz for a couple of nanoseconds before overwhelming your laptop's cooler

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and vrms only to drop down to 2.8 is not

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amazing so what we're asking is for you to take some pride in your processors Intel

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like we do with our water bottles on lttstore.com

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it's going to be a lot of work but the thing is you've run programs like this

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before create a certification process to ensure that when someone buys a laptop

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with an 11th gen i9 core h badge on it

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that's going to mean that they have the fastest gaming CPU out there

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not that they got screwed out of 200 that they could have easily saved by

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getting the same or even better performance with a core i7

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now i would suggest that part of this validation would be ensuring that the

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laptop can actually deliver turbo boost speeds for an extended period of time

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let's say a target somewhere between two or or five minutes and then you lay down

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the law you tell your partners that if you can't handle it then you're locked

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to core i7 or even core i5 for that matter on that design

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because until you guys fix this consumers are forced to rely on

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third-party reviews or knowledgeable sales representatives to

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figure out how a laptop is going to perform and you aren't going to be

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creating a lot of goodwill when they end up with a device that they thought was

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fast they thought it was top of the line and then discover later that it's not or

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if you want to do none of that at least don't make the reference sample of your

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brand new CPU that you give to reviewers an underpowered mess Gigabyte really

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saved your butts here sending over a product that offers stellar gaming and

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all-around performance at a reasonable thickness with a good-looking 240hz

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display like guys if you're going to create the fastest mobile on the block you should

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be making sure that that's what we're focused on when we're reviewing the

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product so we don't think to talk about something like battery life until we're

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deep into our testing which oh i guess we're there now so yeah the

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aeris 15p managed 5 hours and 18 minutes

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of battery life from its 99 watt hour battery which for context is quite

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literally the largest battery capacity possible to put in a laptop by law

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now i would expect a similarly equipped AMD laptop to get more like 9 to 10

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hours so there's still a very strong case to be made for choosing ryzen

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we do plan on getting some more laptops that are actually identical except for

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which team they bat for to properly tell you which one is best but for now at

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least what we can say is if you go out and buy a laptop with a blue badge you

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might be giving up some battery life but you are not automatically an idiot

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there's a lot of good blue team designs out there Thunderbolt 4 offers fast i o

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and easy docking and those sweet sweet FPS my big complaint

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right now is that i wish that when you saw a core i9 badge you knew how much

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performance you were actually getting

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