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controllers break and for some people they break often but just buy a new one

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right wrong even without getting all preachy

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about e-waste and toxic chemicals landfills yadda yadda controllers can be

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expensive difficult to replace or both

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so repairing broken ones makes a ton of sense microsoft recently confirmed the

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alleged shortage of current generation xbox wireless controllers that's been

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driving up prices and the ongoing retro

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gaming craze has resulted in skyrocketing demand for older

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controllers that simply aren't being manufactured at all

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anymore with more and more of them dying each year the good news

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is that we have the solution that's

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right it's good old right to repair back

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to save the day once again in most parts of the world replacement

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components for popular game controllers are pretty easy to come by so we asked

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our staff to bring in their precious broken hardware for us to take a look at

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that's right oh here it is the doctor is in so let's get started oh my god

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today at the link down below depending on the model of the controller and the

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particular problem a repair job can be anywhere from dead simple to absolutely

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nightmarish and while i suspect that everything we look at today is going to

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be on the easier end of the spectrum you never know when you're going to crack

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open a wiimote and find that many of the pcb traces have been corroded away by

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battery shmu this has no internal battery meaning it should be a relatively easy one we're

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going to start here the super nintendo was my childhood so it would warm my

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heart to keep david's busted controller out of the landfill his problem is

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apparently both a broken start and select button let's get this baby

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cracked open

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wow that's some 1990s pcb right there

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david didn't even say that he had a broken right shoulder button well if

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it's not bothering him guess it doesn't bother me

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cable replacement seems to be a relatively simple operation this gives

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us a really good look at the internals of the controller it's very simple all

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membranes just like with the cheap keyboard so it works with this rubber

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nipple here that has a conductive material on the bottom of it that just

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connects two traces closing a circuit sending a signal to the connected device

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there are no joysticks which means we have none of the cost or complexity that

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accompany those the main points of failure then are either cracked nipples

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which these all seem to be fine or

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dirty contact points or dirty nipples which prevent the circuit from being

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closed so it's actually likely that a controller of this style can be repaired

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simply by cleaning it why don't we start with that obviously

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the start and select are the problem and wow this is dirty i don't know

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i'm getting a bit of a spill vibe here

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you can see whatever it was seeped through the start and select through the

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membrane here through the hole and around it and oh

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it's kind of oily yeah it's all over the board this is as gross as it is it's

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actually good news because it means it's very likely that this fix is as simple

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as just you grabbing a q-tip spraying some alcohol

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on it and giving this a wipe down yeah

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fumigate this thing since we're already in here we're going to use a smooth

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motion to clean off the bottoms of these other contact pads we're pretty lucky

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the originals are in good condition because while we did prepare by picking

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up a whole set of replacement membranes off of morotov games

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honestly they just do not feel as good

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as the originals even though the originals are over 25 years old at this

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point and it gets a lot worse than these

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like if you pick up random ones on amazon there's a good chance they're gonna feel pretty awful compared to the

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originals let's go ahead and put this back on then

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if this shoulder's not bothering david i guess it's not really my place to say that it's a problem right

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can i steal one from another controller yeah all right cool

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okay perfect so we're in pretty okay shape it's test time

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well it still works well start works

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all buttons are working david you're welcome your controller is

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saved our next victim this gamecube controller comes courtesy of our former

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editor taran in it presumably thanks to his spider-man 2-speed run hobby has a

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banged-up c-stick nub and a flaccid joystick that we need to get returned to

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its proper erect state unfortunately

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while the gamecube has great joysticks it's nearly impossible to prepare the

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internals of the stick box so when they break they must be replaced

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there are three main types of stick boxes that you might find in your

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controller and depending on the version you have the job of desoldering them

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could be a little more difficult this metal cover here means that ours is

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either a first or second generation unit so it means that heat will spread away

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faster from the soldering iron the good news is that generations one

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and two are interoperable so that gives us a few more options for sourcing a

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replacement the bad news is that while there are

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lots of new stick boxes available on amazon aliexpress and ebay they will

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likely make your precious first-party controller feel like an off-brand like

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circa or old school and those can be had for about 10 brand new so the easiest

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way to obtain a good replacement is by salvaging one from another gamecube

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controller or a wii accessory like the nunchuck though it should be noted i'm

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using the term easiest rather loosely here the gamecube

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controller is a much more involved teardown than the snes controller

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starting with nintendo's trademark tri-wing screws you will need an ifixit

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kit or similar in order to get these puppies out and ending with the

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desoldering that we're going to have to do to get our donor joystick and c-stick

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out of this bad boy

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off comes the joystick cover on the c-stick we're going to hold on to that

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for taren's controller for later now to get the c-stick out on some versions

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this is soldered but conveniently on ours it's a socketed plug so we can just

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pop this off and out comes the soldering iron

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that's it for our donor controller for now but we're going to hold on to it for when we inevitably need that second

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joystick down the road our second operation here is to replace the stick

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covers and here again we could just purchase new ones online but again many

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of the cheap options online don't quite measure up to the originals and our

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customer is particular

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thankfully our broken controller happens to have all the right working parts to

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fill in the less working parts of terence now to open up teren's

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controller and this time we need to go deeper into our disassembly of the

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rumble pack by fully desoldering it this is going to give us the access we need

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to the back of the stick box

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and once again it looks like this controller has been spilled down

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check this out we've got the stick box out and this thing looks freaking rusty

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what is even going on here ultimately that's probably not what made

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it loose like this but it certainly didn't help

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taran's c-stick box is in acceptable condition so all we need to do is put

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the new cover on top of it reassemble and it's time to test

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and woohoo not brand new type but

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hey it didn't come from a brand new controller so

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what do you want gamecube controllers particularly the

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joysticks are a rabbit hole and a half to go down so in the interest of time i

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would suggest that instead of listening to me talk about it you check out places

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like ssb wiki gc controller library or

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pretty much anywhere that smash bros players tend to congregate

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let's do something a little easier next where'd it go ah here it is

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this playstation 3 controller is from our cameraman andy hi andy

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it still works perfectly fine except

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whoops the built-in lithium battery is

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toast one solution that i pitched to him would be to switch over to xbox like a proper

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chad no but andy didn't have any of that so

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i guess we'll replace his battery for him

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replacing a battery is mostly painless when the controller is easy to open and

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this one is just unscrew the back phillips head screws

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thank you sony and lift forward toward the trigger buttons if your l2 and r2

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fall out put them back on right away and make sure the little spring is on the

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inside of the trigger otherwise you're gonna have a pretty sloppy trigger

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now it's time to unplug the battery it might be a little tight but if you use a

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pointy plastic tool like this you'll be able to get a little bit more leverage

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and you should be able to push it out if you keep trying now one of the challenges when it comes

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to replacing batteries well in any device not just a ps3 controller is that

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due to a lack of right to repair legislation official first party

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replacements either do not exist or

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they're not sold for very long and it's a long way down the road that

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usually is when we need these things purchasing third-party batteries is

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absolutely an option but it can be a gamble since shady sellers can claim

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that a battery holds far more charge than it actually does and in an even

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worse case they might make mistakes in the production of the product for

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example it's pretty common with the ps3 to have the polarity flipped on the

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battery so make sure that the black wire

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is actually going to ground to avoid frying your controller or potentially

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turning the battery pack into a pretty spicy pillow when you insert the battery

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make sure the black and red wires are on the same side of the connector groove

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we'd recommend taping down the battery at this stage

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then once you've got the shell back together you're going to want to make sure that your triggers and your

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shoulder buttons are working correctly before you screw it back together

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so andy your controller is restored to

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battery life wow i can't play gta 5 here you go

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next up we've got what i'm going to call the little brother special it's a rock

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candy controller from pdp for the xbox 360. i have

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no idea why this holds such a special place in alex's heart but

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it does and given that xbox 360 controllers have been getting much more

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difficult to come by lately i feel it would be a service to the gaming

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community overall to fix this one up for him so that he doesn't have to go buy up

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one of the proper first party ones that the rest of us would rather use from

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talking to alex we know that the problem with this controller is that it will intermittently disconnect which can be

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anything from corrosion on the contacts inside the usb-a connector to a partial

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break in the cable to some kind of loosening of the connection even here

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inside the controller now because it would take us a long time

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to diagnose which of those particular problems this is what we're going to do

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is we're just going to strip down the controller and solder on a completely

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fresh usb cable we start by unscrewing the shell and

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lifting up the back avoiding the triggers just like the ps3

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then looking closer at the pcb there's what seems to be an oscillator here

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that's either glued down which would be fine or has some kind of schmoo or

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leaking thing coming out of it which could be causing our connectivity

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problem we think it's more likely to be the usb cable so we're going to go

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straight to that fix we'll need to take the board out and remove the joystick

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covers just like we did on the gamecube and at this stage we need to note the

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order of our usb wires if the board is labeled black is ground red is voltage

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green is negative data white is positive data and this will all be relevant later

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we can desolder the wires from the board with a soldering iron or heat gun

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however it works for you then it's time to put the controller

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aside for a minute and find a donor cable i'm feeling more like a classic

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black yeah now we strip it tin it and solder

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it remembering the order what you're looking at now is us doing

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it backwards whoops so we'll need to do that again

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if your original cable had some kind of strain reliever or rubber grommet to

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hold it in place make sure you dissect that wrap it around your new cable and

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reinstall it it can be the difference between years of trouble-free operation

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or it just immediately breaking again if you had better foresight than us by the

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way you could put some heat shrink around your cable and that would probably help it stay in place a bit

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better now we reassemble and return

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and no dropping in and out hey alex get your crappy controller back

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thank you i can finally play rocket league while i can we got pretty lucky

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on that one not every third party controller is easy to fix they often use

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different pcb layouts and or components that make finding replacement parts much

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more difficult also because they're less common the online resources for

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repairing them can be few and far between this ps2 controller from david is a

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perfect example we honestly had a hard

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time even getting the thing open let alone working on it without risking any

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additional damage so his makeshift solution to the dead

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spring in the right trigger might be the best that he can do for now

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bringing us finally to something a little bit more modern i've actually got

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a couple of broken xbox one controllers so

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let's see i'd say the broken micro usb charging

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part on this one is pretty minor and too similar to something that we've already

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done so why don't we do the one that

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doesn't power on at all i think this one ended up with some kind

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of coating all over the pcb as part of a previous video i actually

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don't remember all the details though step one is to

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pry up the handles hard got to get those off to get at the screw

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holes then there are five screws two on either

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side and one under the battery cover

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now pop off the front plate and it's time to unscrew all these tiny screws

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there's not actually a ton of them but don't miss any the rumble got

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disconnected at some point we're not sure what happened there and this conformal coating ah yes this

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was from bathtub gaming it's clearly coming off

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but the weird thing is we're getting continuity on it and yet it simply

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doesn't work i don't know how much additional time we're going to be

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investing into this one especially when we've got more important things to talk

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about we actually didn't get any modern controllers with dead joysticks but

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given how common stick drift is i feel like it's at least worth talking about

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there are a handful of joystick technologies that have made their way into consumer controllers the sega

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dreamcast used hall effect sensors essentially magnetic joysticks and the

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notorious n64 joystick actually used an optical sensor so despite

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flopping around due to a defect in the mechanical design the accuracy almost

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never degraded it's one of the few stick boxes by the way that can actually be

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repaired by disassembling and refurbishing it the writer for this

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video is on probation so he didn't make it into the youtube video this is his

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controller that he wanted to get fixed but maybe we'll have him do it as a

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unfortunately no modern joystick uses

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either an optical or hall effect sensor nintendo sony microsoft and even media

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darling valve all use potentiometer joysticks which

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well are inherently fragile a potentiometer is a variable resistor

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that restricts the flow of electricity each joystick then has two

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potentiometers one for up and down one for left and right so moving it around

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changes the voltage values that are being reported to the console on both of

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those axes a spring returns the stick to center the issue with potentiometers is

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that they involve two pieces of conductive material rubbing together if

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those two pieces start to wear out warp or they get dirty well

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it's possible that they will output a value that corresponds to this

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rather than to this causing the input from the stick to

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drift a little even if physically it's in the right position

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potentiometers are used because they are cheap and really for very few other

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reasons it's kind of wild that in 2002

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we have more expensive controllers that use worse technology than what we had

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back in 1999. some companies though like bully kit are

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working on aftermarket hall effect sensors for the steam deck and switch

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and maybe other controllers in the future to finally solve a problem that

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shouldn't have existed in the first place the script says until we have

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hands on we can't speak to the quality of their solution but i actually tried

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the steam deck one today right before i came over here and it is better

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especially with the steam deck where you can configure the dead zones no dead

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zones oh so fine anyway this was a lot of fun so if

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you're looking to get more mileage out of a controller you already own or if

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you want to score a deal on a controller by fixing it up yourself or maybe you

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even want to start a new hobby or side business fixing and flipping old

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controllers i'd say it's worth giving it a try just be careful where you get your

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controllers from japan is a good source and is actually where this pile of super

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famicom controllers came from they belong to the writer who worked on this

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project if you run into export woes though there

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are lots of as-is controllers on sites like ebay

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just be careful because if they're coming from other refurbishers as this

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one likely is i mean who else would strip off the battery covers then you

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have no way of knowing if earnest efforts have already been made to fix

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them they could be just irreparably broken this one on the other hand looks a lot

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more like someone decluttering their garage and could be a prime candidate

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for some fixing do you know who's a prime candidate to sponsor this video

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and these controllers pair great with a mr multi system so go check out

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Anthony's video on ShortCircuit about that