WEBVTT 00:00:00.599 --> 00:00:07.280 loud and we are live welcome to the live 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:13.160 stream guys we made 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:15.639 it here in our new studio space and we 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:24.160 have a new setup and of course that combines extremely well with 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:25.920 um what do you want nothing okay uh so 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:30.960 we're here in our new in our new studio with our new setup which includes sort 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:36.960 of running our third scene off of my laptop which apparently 00:00:35.040 --> 00:00:42.559 this is stuck on something no I'll just pull on it that 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:43.960 can only end well that's not going to 00:00:42.559 --> 00:00:49.719 doubt force it that's not going to end well wait a second it could end well no 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:52.600 it won yes it w see it ended well 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:56.440 because I I pulled on it which caused a problem for you and your sense of the 00:00:54.600 --> 00:01:00.760 way things should work which meant you rushed over there and fixed it for me 00:00:58.440 --> 00:01:04.360 that ended well pulling on cables is like so let's see if this is still 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:08.759 working hey hey that's still working too not a very good Tech tip Yank on the 00:01:06.320 --> 00:01:14.400 cable Yank on the cables as long as there's someone nearby who cares about 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:19.240 that cable and will protect it from you that's my 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:22.040 kinu so I kind of oh oh and I was going 00:01:19.240 --> 00:01:30.240 to break the mouse too excellent really this is yours yeah 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:32.960 oh cool all right so let's go ahead head 00:01:30.240 --> 00:01:38.479 and I'm going to crack open the twitch chat also I think we've got a fair bit 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:42.040 to talk about this week because you were not here last week why don't you update 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:44.880 the audience on where you are even though I actually think I told them 00:01:43.399 --> 00:01:49.439 probably about half a dozen times during the stream last week cuz people kept joining and then they kept asking so 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:54.240 carry on he said where I am so technically I'm in the new studio but 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:56.439 where I was was Korea and I didn't 00:01:54.240 --> 00:02:01.200 actually land when the stream started I landed like a while after the stream 00:01:58.520 --> 00:02:05.479 ended right yeah why did we think you were going to be on time for the stream 00:02:02.759 --> 00:02:11.000 cuz we had your flight details like two three weeks before we left yeah I don't 00:02:08.679 --> 00:02:16.519 know what happened I I don't know why we thought that possible hours late like 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:20.280 hours and hours late like I I didn't get home until well we went and had dinner 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:25.879 afterwards but I didn't get home if I minus the time of dinner I didn't get 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:27.560 home until like 10: which is hours after 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:32.200 the stream when did we well that would have been okay to join me during the old 00:02:30.920 --> 00:02:36.760 is that what we were thinking that might have been it cuz technically we were still in the old stream time when we 00:02:34.920 --> 00:02:39.599 first started doing the trip details that might be it but then we didn't 00:02:38.239 --> 00:02:45.120 factor in okay so tell tell us about your trip to you've told me nothing about your trip to Korea what happened 00:02:42.440 --> 00:02:50.599 that first night the first uh I don't know how much I 00:02:48.239 --> 00:02:55.440 should have you heard anything about the first night no I know nothing huh how 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.920 into details I know you were I know you were stuck in Korea that's all I know 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:05.920 okay I'll go through the play byplay I don't know if I anyways I'll just do it 00:03:01.640 --> 00:03:08.000 whatever um so I land my I have three 00:03:05.920 --> 00:03:14.120 phones on me right now because I had the Note One blackberry and my S3 and I have 00:03:11.760 --> 00:03:18.959 my laptop right right laptop's dead Blackberry is dead not's dead S3 has 13% 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:24.680 oh okay laptop's not dead laptop had about 15% S3 had about 10 15% okay so 00:03:23.440 --> 00:03:29.799 everything's pretty much dead but my assumption was a ton of people in Taipei 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:33.720 could speak English oh yeah a ton of people you could get around fairly easily right yeah but there was a 00:03:32.200 --> 00:03:38.239 convention in town but there was a convention in town but a lot of the people that just worked in the stores or 00:03:36.239 --> 00:03:40.680 whatever could like at least point you in the right direction yeah however if 00:03:39.720 --> 00:03:44.840 you're like t-shirt extra extra extra large they 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:50.400 could kind of handle it they could get you to where you need to go food water 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:53.599 hotel whatever kind of work no not in 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:54.799 Korea not in Korea the airport was good 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:58.000 and when I first land in the airport I was like all right I'm good this is good 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:02.599 by the way when I first land in the airport someone ran up to me cuz I'm wearing it's really bright in the area 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:06.079 cuz there's lights everywhere in white floors and I just got off a pitch black 00:04:04.480 --> 00:04:09.599 plane cuz Ione have their Windows close so I had my aviators on cuz my eyes were 00:04:07.799 --> 00:04:13.319 still readjusting so I have my aviators on I'm wearing shorts and a t-shirt and 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:19.560 this dude runs up to me he's like military military military and he looks really angry and I'm like what the heck 00:04:17.239 --> 00:04:25.600 and I kind of thought about it and we had talked about this previously all the 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:27.160 American GIS that are in oh some of that 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:30.880 is being happily accepted some of that is not being happily accepted so I 00:04:29.400 --> 00:04:35.840 didn't know what this guy's position was but he was yelling military at me and looked really pissed off so I flashed my 00:04:34.320 --> 00:04:43.120 Canadian passport and was like no no no no no no no no Canada has no military 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:49.240 it's okay we have some robots we make it by um I heard we had a submarine at one 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:51.479 point really like one why I don't know 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:55.759 anyway car no we bought it used from the British or something like that seems 00:04:52.960 --> 00:05:01.600 like a terrible idea I know right man dumb anyways so a flash my 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:06.479 password whatever get it across that I'm not military he says okay and actually 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:11.039 was nice and end up escorting me to the like Express train into Soul so I get 00:05:09.440 --> 00:05:15.039 onto the express train into Soul everything seems fine I ran into an 00:05:13.039 --> 00:05:20.840 actually American GI there so I wasn't surprised that he was asking if I was 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:22.560 one um and I get to Soul station which 00:05:20.840 --> 00:05:28.680 is like Soul Central Station it's this huge hub for Transit tons of trains and 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:31.720 everything all there um but then right when I get to Soul Central station no 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:37.240 one speaks English right I try to go get on one of 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:40.360 the trains and there's no like coin slot or Bill slot or anything so I have no 00:05:38.960 --> 00:05:44.360 idea what's going on I see some people with these like cards that they're 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:48.120 hitting against the thing and it beeps so like I'm like okay like people have 00:05:45.919 --> 00:05:50.880 NFC cards how do I get one of these like I have no idea what I'm doing I start 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:54.160 asking around I don't know what the currency rate is and I go to the ATM and 00:05:52.880 --> 00:05:58.360 go to pull out money and the minimum pull out is like $50,000 right okay 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:03.840 right and I'm like whoa hope hopefully the conversion is 00:06:01.280 --> 00:06:07.880 pretty uh pretty scaled out there because I have no idea how I'm pulling 00:06:05.479 --> 00:06:12.280 how much I'm pulling out of the ATM um and my phone's dead and there's not very 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:16.759 much free Wi-Fi huh in Soul Central Station there was no free Wi-Fi right 00:06:14.440 --> 00:06:19.800 okay which is nuts there's a McDonald's there there's a whole bunch of stuff 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:24.680 there that I would expect from being in Canada that there would be free Wi-Fi 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:26.039 there so I'm thinking okay I might be 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:29.880 getting through one of these Wi-Fi portals I might be able to get Wi-Fi 00:06:28.039 --> 00:06:33.440 access because some of them I'm cing random Korean buttons hoping that it 00:06:31.520 --> 00:06:35.759 works and like I think I might be getting through one but my phone's 00:06:34.599 --> 00:06:39.960 starting to die because I've been doing this for a while I've been at Soul Central Station for a little while now 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:44.560 okay so I go to McDonald's hoping that they have Wi-Fi they don't but either 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:48.039 way I stash all my stuff I load up my laptop put it into sleep and close it so 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:53.319 that I can drain the battery from my laptop into my phone because at this point in time I'm like my phone's more 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:57.479 important and there's no plugs that I can use slick power management tips 00:06:55.440 --> 00:07:01.000 right there drain your laptop into your phone yeah there's no there's no power 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:04.000 plugs like can use right okay cuz I have a like North American PL and you don't 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:08.639 have a travel adapter don't have a travel adapter because diesel does right 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:14.240 when you he was supposed to be going before you but it ended up that I was 00:07:10.919 --> 00:07:16.879 going before him so I could catch WCS 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:20.319 Starcraft so sit down in this McDonald's trying to drain my laptop trying to 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:23.680 listen to people around me and catch keywords to see if I can like quick 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:27.000 translate anything on the fly like I'm trying to document everything I can 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:31.120 right yeah I start just writing down random names of the things at McDonald's 00:07:29.080 --> 00:07:34.479 that I know would be like translations of 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:38.199 hamburger like so I can like ask for food and stuff like I'm trying to I'm 00:07:35.840 --> 00:07:43.560 like I'm screwed I need to get whatever information I can because I'm 00:07:40.479 --> 00:07:44.960 screwed and Brilliant me when I was in 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:50.080 the airport someone asked if I wanted a rental phone but it was $9,000 or 9,000 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:53.639 w a day okay so it seemed way too expensive I didn't know the currency 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:59.560 conversion so I didn't get it so I didn't have a rental phone yet 00:07:57.400 --> 00:08:02.159 awesome and I knew there was other stuff could do and I assumed free Wi-Fi 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:06.680 everywhere and if free Wi-Fi was everywhere I knew I'd be able to make it buy right so I wasn't worried I could 00:08:05.159 --> 00:08:10.120 WhatsApp diesel I could do whatever I could communicate I really assumed free 00:08:08.599 --> 00:08:14.280 Wi-Fi everywhere because I'm in Korea right apparently that's not a thing um 00:08:13.039 --> 00:08:18.240 so I don't have a rental phone all that kind of stuff while I'm sitting there um 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:25.360 this one chick looks at me and she's like hey are you new here in perfect 00:08:20.919 --> 00:08:27.840 English and I'm like yes you can save me 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:32.320 this is so good um so I start talking to them for a little bit and then they're 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:36.800 like let's go get food so I'm like okay there's two of them yay we can go get 00:08:34.959 --> 00:08:40.039 food so before I leave I get them to go to the ATM with me and help me figure 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:46.279 out what the currency conversion is ends up being super easy right um 200,000 is 00:08:43.680 --> 00:08:50.040 basically 200 bucks okay there's a scale off like it's probably plus or minus 20 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:54.160 bucks or something but it's close enough that it's like okay somewhere around 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:58.560 there right so I pull out some money we go for food they teach me some of the 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:01.880 customs with like eating food and going to restaurants and how to like deal with 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:05.480 people and stuff taugh me a few words that could help me get by um like if 00:09:03.920 --> 00:09:12.560 you're trying to hail someone down how to do it if it's a guy how to do it if it's a girl okay um hello sure just like 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:17.959 random little things like that like I learned some really basic stuff um and 00:09:15.760 --> 00:09:20.040 they helped me out and then like we're going around cruising around checking 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:27.120 out different shops and different restaurants and stuff and I'm like hey I need to get like a hotel cuz I need to 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:30.640 sleep before WCS tomorrow cuz at this point I still want to go to the 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:35.600 Starcraft event right I haven't had that's a high priority oh it is it's 00:09:31.959 --> 00:09:38.200 definitely a high priority Starcraft um 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:41.399 I've had no time online yet since hitting Korea right so I have no idea 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:46.320 what's going on which explains why I didn't hear from you yeah okay or anyone 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:52.839 like my mom's freaking out yeah you know my mom oh I'm sure your mom was freaking 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:56.040 out not happy um so I'm cruising around 00:09:52.839 --> 00:10:00.240 you know she Facebooked me 00:09:56.040 --> 00:10:02.440 right did she really yes well in Korea 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:06.200 asking if you had any info saying that because I think by the time I had 00:10:04.160 --> 00:10:09.880 reached her she had heard from you so something about the only reason I'm 00:10:08.040 --> 00:10:17.440 still alive is that she's heard from you by now or something like 00:10:12.760 --> 00:10:18.560 that I sounds about right okay um so I'm 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:23.640 like hey I need to get somewhere I figure out that I'm in like the bottom 00:10:20.760 --> 00:10:29.519 of soul and where I wanted to end up was way up in the top of Soul okay at this 00:10:25.959 --> 00:10:31.480 point in time transit's down sure um 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:36.120 like I don't know how to talk to taxis like it's not a good situation okay um 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:38.519 so the one chick is like you can just stay at our 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:45.440 dorms that's what my mom did it ended up 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:51.680 being fine uhuh so I crashed on the floor of the one chick's dorm room and 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:54.399 then um the one girl's boyfriend took me 00:10:51.680 --> 00:10:58.800 to WCS in the morning okay and then that was great and then I got to see I went 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:02.839 to gome Studio which is like my two two of my favorite casters tasteless and 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:07.120 osis not9 who is my actual favorite Caster but two of my favorite casters um 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:12.120 got to see them do the semi-finals which was great um talked to them got them to 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:15.519 sign my Starcraft box which I gave to my brother that was the box with the 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:18.519 writing okay sure I I brought my Starcraft Heart of the Swarm box I got 00:11:17.160 --> 00:11:22.720 both of them to sign it CU my brother's a caster and he loves casters right so I 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:25.560 got them to sign that I ended up giving that to my brother and then I talked to 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:30.639 them about where the finals actually were because they were casting it as a 00:11:28.079 --> 00:11:34.920 spectator oh oh okay okay so they had a camera on them and a screen in their 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:37.200 desk that was the Starcraft I see okay and when they're casting most of the 00:11:36.079 --> 00:11:41.519 time the Starcraft stream is on the screen so they got to just stare at it and talk about it while was going on 00:11:40.040 --> 00:11:45.279 right but they weren't actually live at the event and the event was in Korea so 00:11:43.959 --> 00:11:50.360 I got to see the semi-finals with them which was awesome but then I wanted to go to the big Arena event cuz I was like 00:11:48.800 --> 00:11:56.399 okay I'm in Korea I got to go to a Starcraft event in an arena CU that's 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:58.720 awesome so the tasteless which is one of 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:02.440 the guys um who like I didn't have a marker from to sign my thing cuz I don't 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:06.160 know how to buy a marker in Korea cuz I like couldn't find a stationary store 00:12:04.839 --> 00:12:10.760 because I'm like where the heck am I supposed to go um I mean I don't want to 00:12:08.839 --> 00:12:14.360 generalize but based on all the Korean exchange students that have ever come to 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:17.639 my school when I was in like high school and all the stationary that they carry 00:12:15.959 --> 00:12:22.399 with them there should it should bewhere think they have stores for that should be every we ended up I ended up finding 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:26.360 an insane school supply station yeah like they probably have like every color 00:12:24.040 --> 00:12:29.720 of every penc but that was a few days down not that I'm generalizing it's just 00:12:28.079 --> 00:12:35.600 I mean you can't help but make observations anyway go ahead that yeah I 00:12:32.079 --> 00:12:38.760 I did find that place um NG also known 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:40.199 as by now Diesel and I call them proxy 00:12:38.760 --> 00:12:45.440 but that's a whole another story proxy sure oh oh okay yeah that uh intern guy 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:50.120 yeah he ended up showing us one it was awesome but that was a few days down the line that's when after I had met up with 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:54.199 both of them this was when I was still on my own um so tasteless and I are like 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:58.519 pulling out tables and stuff trying to find like 00:12:56.680 --> 00:13:01.839 sliding tables away from walls trying to open drawers to find try and find a 00:12:59.920 --> 00:13:04.160 marker he was actually pretty awesome I ended up finding a marker so he signed 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:09.160 the box for my brother I talked to him for a little bit and then he walked me outside and pointed down a bridge I was 00:13:07.760 --> 00:13:16.160 just like go down there you'll see Arenas and then it's the one in the back 00:13:11.839 --> 00:13:17.519 so I'm like okay time to go I guess so I 00:13:16.160 --> 00:13:21.839 just walk down the street get to the Arenas walk through like some security 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:24.199 gate just pretended that I was totally confident there was totally nothing 00:13:23.160 --> 00:13:29.320 wrong with me walking through the security gate like tall white dude in 00:13:27.079 --> 00:13:32.399 Korea is's not going to stand out at all this is obviously fine right like no big 00:13:31.160 --> 00:13:37.920 deal I'm just walking through no big deal no one stopped me which is great okay so I walked through the security 00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:40.920 gate there's three huge Arenas and two of them are super super loud and have 00:13:39.680 --> 00:13:44.720 tons of cars out them and are just absolutely massive and I'm like I think 00:13:43.079 --> 00:13:48.320 Starcraft is a little bit smaller than that those ended up both being huge 00:13:46.680 --> 00:13:51.600 baseball games going on at the same time okay and then so I walk through go to 00:13:50.199 --> 00:13:55.399 the one in the very back so Starcraft isn't quite baseball yet that's what 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:59.680 you're trying to say no not quite they're trying though go to the back um 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:07.079 admittance was it cost it was a 10 deposit that I got 00:14:02.040 --> 00:14:09.480 back or 10,000 W um to get a like little 00:14:07.079 --> 00:14:12.839 radio thing I wore headphones for that I could get tuned into to the English 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:15.800 casters right because there was the Korean casters which honestly after a 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:21.279 while I just took it out because it was kind of cool to listen to the crazy 00:14:17.880 --> 00:14:22.680 Korean casters right they're nuts cuz I 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:27.040 can kind of see what's going on it's kind of like badminton where there's uh 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:34.079 some of the uh some of the coverage on the Canadian feed had commentation but 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:36.360 it was like terrible whereas I'd rather 00:14:34.079 --> 00:14:42.279 i' honestly I'd rather listen to it in like Danish because at least the guys 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:44.759 know when to be excited and like like the like the guys who don't really know 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:50.839 the sport very well they'd get like super excited about some shot and I'm like I can make that shot whereas like 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:55.480 the actual guys who actually know how to play the game or knew how to play it at 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:56.959 some point they yeah anyway so yeah well 00:14:55.480 --> 00:15:00.279 like okay those Starcraft CS were actually good the English ones so it's 00:14:58.680 --> 00:15:03.720 not I understand that analogy and I agree but it didn't really CU not quite 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:08.000 like that then but it was just entertaining to listen to the Korean 00:15:05.680 --> 00:15:11.600 guys live cuz they're so crazy right so it was it was just kind of cool um and 00:15:10.199 --> 00:15:15.079 to like feel the vibe of the crowd because everyone was just way more amped 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:18.519 than I've ever seen cuz the only thing I've gone to around here is barcraft 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:22.600 which is where people go to a bar and then all the TVs have Starcraft on them 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:26.160 right um and that's interesting but no one's really Rowdy right everyone was 00:15:24.880 --> 00:15:29.600 crazy in the arena so that was kind of cool um end up trying to leave there and 00:15:28.319 --> 00:15:36.079 figure out how the heck I'm supposed to get back to that dorm right cuz that's 00:15:31.800 --> 00:15:37.399 where my luggage is right so jump on the 00:15:36.079 --> 00:15:41.800 train hope I'm going in the right direction get off at some random stop 00:15:40.040 --> 00:15:45.120 figure it out ended up getting there it actually wasn't that bad cuz soul is 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:49.240 actually really easy to navigate around cuz the train system is like super 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:52.759 intricate but if you at least know what stop you're supposed to get off on it 00:15:50.880 --> 00:15:55.920 can kind of lean you there okay it's not really that big of a deal got there 00:15:54.360 --> 00:16:02.880 eventually hung out with them for a while okay now this is Sunday diesel 00:15:59.880 --> 00:16:04.959 should be in town um I need to get up to 00:16:02.880 --> 00:16:11.680 the hotel so I can meet up with him right um I go around the Subway or yeah 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:16.680 Subway really really quickly get up there try and get a cab to Rada where we 00:16:13.920 --> 00:16:20.639 were staying took me to Grand Hyatt which is way across town and then I had 00:16:19.199 --> 00:16:25.000 to try and get all the way back eventually made it that was ridiculous 00:16:22.800 --> 00:16:28.959 and then the actual Korea trip started which was fairly not very eventful 00:16:26.959 --> 00:16:32.120 except for a Changing of the Guard ceremony that Diesel and I participated 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:37.240 in which I'll try and get pictures for you we acted as commanders in The 00:16:33.800 --> 00:16:39.720 Changing of the Guard ceremony it was 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:43.160 epic what I I was Googling up stuff to do in 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:48.560 Korea and they're like changing the guard ceremony they only do like one person a day it's like this big thing so 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:51.839 I was like let's do it so I talked to proxy and I was like can we do this so 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:56.079 he hooked it all up and we ended up going and put us in full costume with 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:59.440 like a real sword and a real bow and arrow and everything and then we like 00:16:57.839 --> 00:17:03.720 marched out with everyone and had to go through this like cryptic process to make sure we're the same people and you 00:17:02.160 --> 00:17:07.600 like put coins together and make sure they match and check for a key and do 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:10.919 all this stuff it's crazy and we were in front of all these people that were 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:15.880 watching and it was nuts W that's really cool it was pretty cool other than that 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:24.480 it was just like shopping all right so let's talk Xbox one so this is Xbox 180 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:27.439 Xbox yeah Xbox 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:31.160 180 so this is from IGN from a couple days ago you guys have probably heard 00:17:29.080 --> 00:17:35.840 about this but what you haven't heard is any of Slick's take on the whole NextGen 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:39.640 console Xbox One Thing Beyond some of the early news that was coming out so 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:44.440 I'll run you through quickly through the details of this one so contrary to 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:48.919 everything Microsoft has set up till now they are completely turning around on 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:52.640 everything so it no longer requires an internet connection to play offline 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:57.760 games no longer needs to check in 24 hours a day now allows game discs to be 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:03.480 traded in much the same way that they used to so disc based games operate the 00:18:00.280 --> 00:18:06.240 way they used to whereas uh games that 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:11.159 are based around downloads will operate according to your account from from what 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:16.679 I've seen in here uh what else we got here no uh no no restrictions on 00:18:14.159 --> 00:18:20.720 trade-ins no region locked consoles honestly that was the one where I was 00:18:18.600 --> 00:18:24.480 just like is this April fools you're going to launch a console in like 2122 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:29.400 countries whatever it was I mean that was ridiculous did you even see that one yeah yeah and it was like a whole bunch 00:18:28.159 --> 00:18:32.919 of Asian countries it wasn't being released in are you crazy it's like oh 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:38.440 yeah no we don't need to release in China or India because China and India 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:42.400 don't play video what are you nuts anyway uh and I think Japan wasn't even 00:18:40.520 --> 00:18:46.000 on the list there was a few ones that made me yeah that honestly like it 00:18:44.600 --> 00:18:49.640 looked like they were joking at that point um in addition to being available 00:18:48.159 --> 00:18:55.120 in retail stores Xbox One games will still be available to download on day one and will be playable on any Xbox One 00:18:53.280 --> 00:19:01.200 console so that sounds like it's account based um so here this is the part that 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:07.960 is really most notable to me uh since unveiling our plans for Xbox 00:19:05.280 --> 00:19:11.480 One my team and I have heard directly from many of you read your comments and 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:14.039 listen to your feedback I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:17.640 for our assistance and helping us reshape the future of Xbox one you told 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:22.039 us how much you love the flexibility you have today with games delivered on dis the ability to lend share and resell 00:19:20.520 --> 00:19:27.080 these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you also important is the freedom to play offline 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:31.600 for any length of time anywhere in the world 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:37.520 I'll let you go first basically what I think happened was they were second on 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:44.159 Amazon pre-order sales mm and they were like oh no how do we take that first 00:19:40.360 --> 00:19:46.360 spot huh I'm not really sure what do 00:19:44.159 --> 00:19:50.679 everyone like more about the other conso okay I guess we should maybe change a 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:54.559 few things so we can get that top dollar spot I think that's what happened cuz 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:59.840 that's the only thing okay the company's going to change something so they can make more money it's a company you're 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:04.080 supposed to try and make more money that's the whole idea of a company so 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:08.240 while I don't necessarily think the idea of making more money is evil or bad NOP 00:20:06.760 --> 00:20:13.600 lus Media Group needs to make money we need to make more money throwing that out there and we will do things that 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:16.919 help us make more money yes um I think they I like to think we don't bone our 00:20:15.120 --> 00:20:23.760 viewers over it yeah I was just going to say they went way too far like orders of 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:25.520 magnitude way too far and then reeled it 00:20:23.760 --> 00:20:28.360 all the way back which was a good move I don't know if it's too little too late I 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:33.760 don't know if everyone's too angry already did you hear about the like Mass 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:35.840 returns of Xbox 360 stuff tra in stuff 00:20:33.760 --> 00:20:40.880 people were trading in everything they had really here's my console here's all 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:45.000 my games at like stupid low tradein prices because everyone is doing it so 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:48.760 so now's a good time to get an Xbox 360 on the cheap probably I would assume I 00:20:47.120 --> 00:20:52.080 don't really know if we wanted to play Xbox 3 you know I had a lot of people 00:20:50.360 --> 00:20:56.720 criticizing me last week for talking consoles at all because I said outright 00:20:54.720 --> 00:21:01.280 the last console game I bought was Mario Kart Wii and then the one before before 00:20:58.840 --> 00:21:04.000 that was probably on this NES and people were like well if you don't buy it then 00:21:02.600 --> 00:21:10.080 you don't have the right to talk about it and I was just kind of like 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:13.000 well okay you know duly noted but I 00:21:10.080 --> 00:21:19.320 don't think playing Gears of War makes me more qualified to talk about an 00:21:16.760 --> 00:21:22.760 Xbox I think it could help do you think it could help if I play GE of War could 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:27.960 help because then you're more in tuned you know like you're more in tuned with 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:32.640 the whole system mhm if you if not necessarily the act of purchasing a game 00:21:31.080 --> 00:21:36.320 but if you actually play on the console you probably have more to say about it 00:21:34.760 --> 00:21:39.640 okay that much is true you you would you probably already have a minimum amount 00:21:37.840 --> 00:21:43.120 to say about it I don't think that's invalid because you don't play on it but 00:21:41.760 --> 00:21:48.960 I think you could have more to say about it well they said they wanted to hear from you more because you are an actual 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:52.720 gamer so that's why that's why I'm kind of letting you go first here on this one 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:56.919 okay even though I it should be noted when was the last time you played a game 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:59.320 on an Xbox an Xbox M broke or an Xbox 00:21:56.919 --> 00:22:05.480 360 mine broke yours how many times did yours break 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:07.080 four I think I have three on my shelf 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:11.360 that are all dead but I think one of them was exchanged for warranty so I 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:14.480 think I think it was four but I currently have three broken ones on a 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:19.320 shelf okay and you don't have a working one no and one of them like so so out of 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:24.080 the two of us I'm the only one with a working Xbox 360 but I played a lot I 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:28.799 played on Xbox 360 if so there you go guys that's why slick will do most of 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:30.480 our uh most of our console talk but my 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:33.760 brother and I took one of them had a dead optical drive the other one had a 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:36.880 dead motherboard so we zombied two of them together right we were riding on 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:43.120 that for a little while and then that one kind of died right like man okay so 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:48.720 here's my take whether you guys think I should be allowed to talk about it or not and I mean okay maybe I'm giving 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:52.400 them the benefit of the doubt much the same way we've done to EA before and as 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:56.000 much as it hurts me I mean I love Microsoft I love so many of the things 00:22:54.320 --> 00:22:59.200 they do and as much as it hurts me to utter their name under in the same 00:22:57.840 --> 00:23:04.279 breath as the it almost feels like what they've done 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:08.080 here is intentionally be as terrible as 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:11.200 they possibly can for all of the press 00:23:08.080 --> 00:23:14.120 and all the talk and all the buzz so 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:17.720 that they can have as much impact as possible when they reverse all of it 00:23:16.159 --> 00:23:22.480 because if they were really trying to get away with all this stuff did they 00:23:19.840 --> 00:23:27.400 have to go trickle it out yeah did they have to go full stop no we're going to 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:33.559 go as people have said this is the Xbox 180 do we do we need to do a full 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:35.279 reversal of absolutely everything why 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:40.720 why couldn't they still do account-based games I actually don't understand why 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:43.919 you can't have an account-based game I and 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:46.640 like oh there's a lot to say on that okay there's a lot to say I mean why 00:23:45.360 --> 00:23:51.120 can't it work something like steam though that's an account-based gaming 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:55.159 system yeah you sign in and then see I'm I'm going to keep 00:23:53.360 --> 00:24:00.440 doing this look at he looks like he's going to explode so you sign in and then 00:23:58.760 --> 00:24:05.200 once you've signed it so you boot up and sign in then it's validated for a while 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:10.520 I actually don't have a problem with that it's never bothered me I've never been offline long enough that it's 00:24:07.840 --> 00:24:15.200 bothered me I've had my computer offline for insane amounts of Time how long is 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:19.080 the time frame for steam yeah it's I I think it's at least a week I or like 5 00:24:17.840 --> 00:24:25.159 days or three days or something like it's multiple days I'd be surprised if it was that short it might veryy by it's 00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:29.240 pretty freaking long so so if they' implemented something like 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:34.240 that and like another thing though with steam um with their new leaked code 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:39.320 thing oh yeah no no we talk about that later okay okay well that ties in so 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:43.640 well uh okay fine we'll talk about that now so okay okay okay so there's a few 00:24:42.120 --> 00:24:49.000 lines of code that came out in a new beta patch yeah um which basically 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:53.799 stated in the lines of code shared game borrowed game lending game kind of 00:24:51.760 --> 00:24:59.240 phrases two weeks someone says more than two weeks either way it's a long time 00:24:55.399 --> 00:25:01.320 it's a long time yeah um which basically 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:06.000 means there's a high possibility that you are going to be able to lend share 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:11.279 borrow games through Steam so people would be able sool so cool so you would 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:15.640 be able to like I guess temporarily remove your ability to play it from your 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:19.320 library and allow your friend to play it which is the exact same thing as taking 00:25:17.360 --> 00:25:21.559 a disc from your house giving it to your friend and not being able to play it for 00:25:20.600 --> 00:25:25.720 a little while except your friend could live in like Sweden yeah ah so cool 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:30.760 which is awesome like that's really really cool again uh one of our mod just 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:36.320 said 90 days that sounds more right that sounds that sounds too much I've like I 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:39.480 was pretty sure it's really long cuz i' I've I've had it be really long before I 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:44.320 don't know if that's right or not anyway I mean I think the I think the the 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.960 protection from someone like valve is 00:25:44.320 --> 00:25:50.679 well you don't let people log into your Steam account because then you're boned 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:54.200 yeah I mean and I don't mind that as far as protection goes I mean use twep 00:25:52.679 --> 00:25:58.320 because they do use twostep when you log in from an unfamiliar I love their twep 00:25:56.080 --> 00:26:01.640 and their twostep is great so if Microsoft were to implement it exactly 00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:05.919 that way you would not lend your Xbox account to 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:07.440 someone like you just wouldn't so but 00:26:05.919 --> 00:26:11.320 they should allow the sharing thing but they should allow the sharing thing so 00:26:09.399 --> 00:26:16.520 anyway like do you think it's just that no press is bad press and it was like a 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:19.960 strategy I don't think so or is that just too insane I think it's too insane 00:26:18.399 --> 00:26:25.840 is that any less insane than if they actually did that than if they actually 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:27.600 Prett close what's more insane they 00:26:25.840 --> 00:26:32.159 developed all these systems I think they were going to try I think they didn't think it was going 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:39.600 to be that big of a deal how could they possibly think that because Xbox is 00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:41.559 huge so is PlayStation yeah they have a 00:26:39.600 --> 00:26:46.640 competitor but who don't worry about 00:26:43.840 --> 00:26:49.559 it but at the same time a lot of people were expecting PlayStation to be at a 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:55.840 much higher price point and I wonder if Microsoft thought 00:26:52.520 --> 00:26:57.919 the same price point like PlayStation's 00:26:55.840 --> 00:27:02.360 cheaper and it's cheaper significant amount but a lot of like play uh 00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:07.039 Playstation 3 came out at a huge price point yeah that's true so if Microsoft 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:10.279 was expecting a similar idea they shouldn't have everyone already knew 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:15.919 that both Microsoft and Sony were going to be using pretty much the same fraking 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:18.120 Hardware y except Sony doesn't have a 00:27:15.919 --> 00:27:23.600 like Grand scale webcam that comes with it which people don't want which people 00:27:21.520 --> 00:27:27.240 well I would probably use it a lot of people don't want okay many people don't 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:31.080 want but I think I think a lot of the mainstream folks who are not Reddit 00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:34.440 junkies and yeah but it's not just Reddit junkies that are scared of the 00:27:32.520 --> 00:27:38.080 constant surveillance that's true that's true but they've also come out and set a 00:27:36.159 --> 00:27:42.360 few things about the constant surveillance I mean having it listening 00:27:40.399 --> 00:27:46.240 for microphone commands is a little bit different from having it recording every 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:50.640 conversation and then but then all the same time all that stuff going on with prism and everything you don't really 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:54.519 know what's happening that's true and I'm like I don't want to get way into 00:27:52.399 --> 00:27:59.000 that we're not saying Microsoft is in any way involved in prism just that 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:06.240 thing exists yeah and they're a company that has data and and and and whatever 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:09.480 um figure that out on your own I guess 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:13.360 um but yeah I'm not way too into 00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:16.399 that yeah okay all right I don't know so 00:28:13.360 --> 00:28:18.360 anyway yeah valve allowing lending of 00:28:16.399 --> 00:28:21.880 games potentially at some point that's going to be super cool that's awesome 00:28:20.320 --> 00:28:25.799 like okay now I don't think they're going to have the uh bring in a friend 00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:28.760 thing that you used to be able to do basically with like Warcraft 3 and stuff 00:28:27.760 --> 00:28:32.600 where if spawn install spawn install yeah I don't 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:36.919 think they're going to though because that would be way too I mean they'd have to that would be license that would be a 00:28:35.679 --> 00:28:41.399 license thing that have to figure out on a game by game basis yeah that would be 00:28:39.320 --> 00:28:44.760 awesome like okay nothing about this I just randomly brought this up that would 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:48.159 be cool though and maybe if you can do it with every person like twice maybe 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.519 right per Steam account like that would be pretty 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:55.559 cool sure that would be pretty cool just 00:28:54.240 --> 00:29:00.679 so the person can try out the game cuz there's a lot of games I'll talk to my friends about and like you got to get 00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:04.799 this game it's pretty cheap you should buy it it's amazing so if you could lend 00:29:02.600 --> 00:29:08.840 someone I wonder if the lending will be like uh long-term lending or if they'll 00:29:07.120 --> 00:29:12.640 only allow like short period lending I mean it's possible they just I mean you 00:29:10.399 --> 00:29:17.039 look at sort of when valve announces or starts talking about something or you 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:19.640 catch something three years five years yeah they might still be working on 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:23.919 implementation they might have put it in there just to kind of use it internally 00:29:22.080 --> 00:29:27.640 maybe they only maybe they created the tool just for 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:31.679 themselves you never know that would be pretty Li nightmare this all speculation 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:37.039 and I really hope it happens I don't know it's just a few 00:29:34.320 --> 00:29:42.480 lines of code that a few people found in their new build right so it could mean 00:29:39.120 --> 00:29:44.440 realistically anything okay so topic you 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:50.840 know what let's do a Twitter Q&A uh Twitter Q&A blitz so here we go guys hit 00:29:47.840 --> 00:29:53.720 us on Twitter uh did you hear about the 00:29:50.840 --> 00:29:58.799 new rumors for halflife 3 and I think he means wait what source 2 oh source 2 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:03.399 engine I heard it was half Half Life 3 and something else three Half Life 3 is 00:30:01.679 --> 00:30:09.600 on Steam but not for sale someone just told me what anyway you heard about this 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:14.440 I I heard that there was there was a there was a rumor and hold 00:30:11.360 --> 00:30:16.640 on holy no no no no no no no no no no no 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:22.840 that's a that's a prank look at the URL it's someone sent it to me too I was 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:24.679 like come on man a Stern poers d e a r n 00:30:22.840 --> 00:30:28.159 m or something you can tell because the picture's all yeah no no no no ignore 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:34.000 that uh there was a rumor though that half lifee 3 will be coming at some point uh someone says New Star Citizen 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:38.919 video okay I'll check it out yeah uh are tablets worth it that totally depends on 00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:44.360 your use Cas subjective go subjective so if well it's subjective yeah so go 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:47.360 what's your subjective okay if if like if you're someone who wants to hang out 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:52.640 on the couch watch TV a lot and be able to do emails and stuff while you're on the couch I think that's awesome if you 00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:55.960 basically need a laptop I wouldn't suggest buying a tablet as a laptop 00:30:54.480 --> 00:31:00.080 replacement I would actually just buy a laptop the only time I ever really use 00:30:57.600 --> 00:31:04.360 my t just to watch videos on the bath so yeah that's it so honestly I see tablets 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:07.880 less as a super portable thing as or more as something to carry around the 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:10.919 house or as like instead of a notepad like sometimes I'll set up a tablet on a 00:31:09.399 --> 00:31:14.320 stand so that I can refer to it during an unboxing definitely uh he lus at 00:31:13.080 --> 00:31:19.159 computex did you see the refresher on the 600t I did not unfortunately uh my 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:23.960 friend brought a Mac bought a Mac Pro for $3,800 and uses it for only Facebook 00:31:22.360 --> 00:31:26.720 uh he says Mac is better than PC how hard should I smack him there's no point 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:31.240 smacking him because negative reinforcement is not how they learn 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:36.000 positive reinforcement man did you sign the petition for Tom Clan's The Division 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:40.039 I did did you why because I want to play Tom Clancy's division on PC okay it's 00:31:38.320 --> 00:31:45.279 it's the the the petition is to bring Tom Clancy's division to PC all right 00:31:42.399 --> 00:31:48.200 and Ubisoft Ubisoft is pushing it they're like yeah yeah sign it sign it 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:54.240 so do you think Microsoft would do something like releasing a system that's around $400 Before Christmas it depends 00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:58.799 how hard people don't buy the Xbox one that comes with connect saw a viio 14in 00:31:57.320 --> 00:32:03.440 Ultra look on the background of your keyboard unboxing review soon yes also 00:32:01.840 --> 00:32:06.799 we're going to be doing like a cool lifestyle type video that features that 00:32:05.639 --> 00:32:11.120 particular notebook it isn't an Ultrabook though it's actually a 15in 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:15.720 and it's like a super slim touchscreen notebook with a quad core someone says 00:32:13.320 --> 00:32:20.240 check this out with no link Half Life 3 on Steam not for sale 00:32:18.159 --> 00:32:25.679 no it isn't uh will there be changes to the computex giveaways potentially but 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.279 no promises yet so stay tuned for that 00:32:25.679 --> 00:32:31.279 uh will there be any hard drive cage add-ons for the card buide 540 possibly 00:32:29.399 --> 00:32:37.600 to the back or have to mod it I believe I said in the video that you can add 00:32:33.600 --> 00:32:39.399 more no maybe not I don't know so don't 00:32:37.600 --> 00:32:43.240 don't quote me on that what do you think of having a code in dis based games that 00:32:41.120 --> 00:32:47.720 lets it be account bound if you want you're on is that not how a lot of them 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:51.760 work I think dis based games are dis based games according to the article 00:32:49.080 --> 00:32:56.240 that we had up for Xbox for Xbox okay I didn't realize that was I think I think 00:32:53.600 --> 00:33:02.320 he's talking Xbox I snapped to like PC stuff right there um I don't know if you 00:32:59.320 --> 00:33:03.639 if options are good in my opinion okay 00:33:02.320 --> 00:33:06.880 if you want it to be account bound that would be cool if but having the option 00:33:05.360 --> 00:33:10.919 to not apply that code would also be cool according to this post by Valve 00:33:08.840 --> 00:33:15.120 employee offline mode is intended to be basically indefinite now very cool so 00:33:13.679 --> 00:33:19.679 you guys can click on that one if you want to check that out awesome watching live in the UK determined to watch all 00:33:18.120 --> 00:33:23.440 the way through thanks man hello you can buy games from Steam from 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:30.399 different retailers which means discounts you can only buy digital games for Xbox from Ms what games for steam 00:33:28.120 --> 00:33:34.159 can you buy from different re yeah like if it comes with a steam code in a box 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:37.039 well no there's stuff like Humble Bundle yeah and there's other places that you 00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:44.720 get steam codes for games I think that might be what he means I'm not really sure I mean I found it's uh a lot of the 00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:47.720 time steam's cheaper anyway yeah to be honest they have insane sales speaking 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:52.480 of which summer sale has got to be coming fairly soon oh yeah summer sale 00:33:50.320 --> 00:33:55.639 the first year they did summer sale I probably spent like a couple hundred 00:33:53.919 --> 00:33:59.639 bucks on just a bunch of games that I've like never played never played yeah but 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:03.799 the problem is I'll do it again which is just oh I know right it's kind of 00:34:01.760 --> 00:34:06.200 ridiculous and like I understand it doesn't make any sense cuz I still 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:11.879 haven't played a lot of games from the last summer sale I'm was like oh it's a 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:14.480 really good deal it's like 85% off uh my 00:34:11.879 --> 00:34:19.040 360 has also been bodge where are you from what does bodge mean I hate it 00:34:17.359 --> 00:34:25.919 maybe I should just get a new one I just want Halo that's it all right so why 00:34:22.720 --> 00:34:27.760 don't we move on to our next topic which 00:34:25.919 --> 00:34:32.000 happens to be actually I'm going to combine this topic with uh with another 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:38.599 one Microsoft offering schools and colleges 199 Surface RT tablets this 00:34:35.200 --> 00:34:40.359 article is from Daily Tech so Windows RT 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:44.520 hasn't been the most popular Microsoft product Daily Tech writes Master of the 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:49.079 obvious there but hey for anyone who hasn't heard of Surface RT which I think 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:53.079 is a lot of people that might be a relevant thing to say Microsoft will 00:34:50.919 --> 00:34:56.720 soon introduce the surface for Education limited time offer this month which will 00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:01.160 offer discounted surface RTS to schools and colleges interested in adopting the 00:34:58.560 --> 00:35:05.480 tablet for only $1.99 the Surface RT retails for $4.99 if schools want blah 00:35:03.680 --> 00:35:11.400 blah blah etc etc expected further details and I wanted to tie this into 00:35:08.359 --> 00:35:13.720 another article that is related also on 00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:19.880 Daily Tech at the same time Apple scores $30 million iPad contract from the LA 00:35:16.720 --> 00:35:22.560 School District launches Apple camp for 00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:27.200 youngsters the LA Unified School District is paying 00:35:24.040 --> 00:35:30.359 $678 per iPad which will come pre-loaded 00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:32.200 with educ software but won't include a 00:35:30.359 --> 00:35:35.880 keyboard they have a three-year warranty that includes free replacement devices 00:35:33.839 --> 00:35:39.839 up to 5% of the value of the purchase price the 30 million for iPads is a 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:43.760 steep contract price but La District insisted on the measure because new 00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:50.079 state and National tests will be taken on computers so people have to learn to 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:52.480 use computers etc etc that my friends is 00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:54.880 all you need to know about Microsoft Windows 00:35:55.200 --> 00:36:00.839 RT for onethird of the Price Less Than 00:35:59.200 --> 00:36:05.200 onethird of the price and if they bought in that big of bulk they probably could 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:11.880 have got an even better deal oh man they still are not winning 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:14.119 bids I mean okay honestly that La School 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:18.800 District deal was probably in effect that was probably in in talks for a long 00:36:16.240 --> 00:36:23.359 time and it's it's not necessarily an indication that La School District was 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:28.440 looking at Surface RT versus iPad and ended up going that route with in the 00:36:25.640 --> 00:36:31.760 context of the 199 deal but it's just those two things coming out I think they 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:38.119 were posted on Daily Tech on almost the same day I was just kind of looking at 00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:40.599 it going wow that's how dominant apple 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:45.280 is in the tablet space I mean Android has made up enormous ground on phones 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:49.440 Android is number one for phones now and that's fantastic and that's cool and as 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:55.079 someone who has recently switched to Android and is loving it I love that too 00:36:52.640 --> 00:37:01.520 but on the tablet side what would you use if someone were to give you a 00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:04.599 tablet but you know I wouldn't use a tablet it doesn't matter they they're 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.800 going to give it to you you don't have to use it but you have to have one you 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:12.920 can give it you can give it away you can sell it it doesn't matter like vendor trash pawn it to be honest I would never 00:37:11.720 --> 00:37:17.960 use it it doesn't matter someone's giving it to you for free they refuse to 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.960 give you anything but a 00:37:18.200 --> 00:37:25.680 tablet and remember your options are basically Windows 8 Windows RT and iOS 00:37:24.040 --> 00:37:28.960 and Android if I could get the full Windows 81 okay no your options are 00:37:27.319 --> 00:37:32.560 window Windows RT iOS and Android let's go with ARM operating systems if I could 00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:37.119 get the full Windows 81 I get the full Windows 81 hand it's actually a terrible 00:37:34.359 --> 00:37:41.040 experience really it really terrible because I haven't used it the problem is 00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:46.520 that there's like I cannot make myself use modern UI even on a tablet I just 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:48.560 can't do it it's just not but you can 00:37:46.520 --> 00:37:54.599 functional desktop applications yes you can but using Windows 8 in desktop mode 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:59.119 with a touchcreen is really not any better than using Windows 00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:03.720 7 it's just not the buttons are still tiny the things like you can enlarge 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:09.119 stuff I know but it's like okay you haven't done it I know I'm telling you 00:38:06.160 --> 00:38:12.119 you do it does weird stuff like when you click the like when you open up a 00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:16.319 keyboard and this is weird because it was doing it on my tablet the other day when I was trying to use it for 00:38:14.560 --> 00:38:19.520 something you open up the keyboard it takes your Windows and it like resizes 00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:24.800 them and then you close the keyboard and they stay up there and I'm just like 00:38:21.160 --> 00:38:27.079 really like really and I know it's meant 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:33.119 to be used in modern UI and I understand that but like really also I'd always 00:38:30.359 --> 00:38:37.599 have the keyboard cover on anyway iPad hands down for me for tablet experience 00:38:35.240 --> 00:38:42.200 there is no comparison whatsoever I don't really have enough experience I 00:38:39.359 --> 00:38:45.800 would like to say Android but the one Android tablet that I've used and only 00:38:44.200 --> 00:38:50.440 one that's the Transformer right the original Transformer was not a very good 00:38:48.200 --> 00:38:54.000 use case and honestly that had the latest software at the time like it 00:38:51.839 --> 00:38:56.760 wasn't like it was running like at time yes but this was a while ago but that 00:38:55.119 --> 00:39:00.160 was Ice Cream Sandwich yeah I never liked ice cream sandwi sandwich though 00:38:58.200 --> 00:39:04.720 yeah I mean it I I don't think the tablet experience has changed much since 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:08.560 Ice Cream Sandwich so and I mean yeah okay I'm sure there's feature here and 00:39:06.319 --> 00:39:13.800 feature there but but like I don't like iPad either 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.319 okay I don't know I'm not a tablet guy 00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:21.000 if I'm laying on the couch and I need to check my email I'm completely cool with 00:39:17.520 --> 00:39:23.040 he's in my phone okay I don't see why I 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:26.079 need this like slightly bigger one I actually type faster on a phone than I 00:39:24.520 --> 00:39:29.960 do on a tablet yeah me too that's for sure by a lot yeah so I don't know I'm 00:39:28.520 --> 00:39:33.720 I'm really not into tablets all right tell us about your uh NASA which is 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.480 completely different from NSA we're not talking about that other thing so this 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:41.800 is kind of cool if you if you go to a link that's in this article uh maybe we 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:46.640 can tweet it out or something I'll try we could just click on it here they're 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:48.800 looking at it it's a billion pixel it's 00:39:46.640 --> 00:39:52.319 a billion oh right okay you might not want to click on that might crash the 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:56.920 stream yeah so it's it's I haven't looked at it yet um but it's apparently 00:39:54.280 --> 00:40:00.760 an awesome semi- Panorama or completely panorama pixel uh picture which is a 00:39:59.319 --> 00:40:04.839 billion pixels and it's supposed to just look very very cool of Mars it was where 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:09.720 they were picking up some like dust and sand and rocks and stuff it's the C 00:40:07.359 --> 00:40:13.680 Curiosity Rover and it's actually pretty freaking cool I like it when NASA sends 00:40:11.640 --> 00:40:20.480 back like a bunch of really cool pictures and stuff I don't know for how 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:23.040 little funding they get they're quite 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:30.400 interactive oh NASA you used to be everyone's favorite child and now you're 00:40:26.319 --> 00:40:31.760 just just don't get much funding yeah 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:36.800 all right why don't we do a Twitter Blitz everyone hit us on Twitter 00:40:35.560 --> 00:40:41.359 actually what we'll probably end up doing is going through most of the Twitter questions we got last time I 00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:45.800 love how we actually didn't set up a light in here so we're just relying on 00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:50.560 the light coming in from that window over there which is actually darkening 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:55.640 as the stream goes on making it so that we're getting pretty dark here but H 00:40:53.240 --> 00:40:59.240 there's uh that's fine all right how do you like your new BlackBerry 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:05.839 in two words three words or less the the conclusion video isn't out yet yeah 00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:10.359 conclusion video is not out yet whatever just tell them uh I I will be you I 00:41:09.040 --> 00:41:15.520 can't do returning to S3 okay there you go I 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:20.680 was thinking I'm not switching would have also worked okay but either way I 00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:25.440 think we achieved the so do you know if this is real okay I'm not oh my goodness 00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:29.920 how are people do you not do you not read URLs before you click on them let 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:35.480 me tell you in their defense the r going to the end does kind of look like an M 00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.480 as a seasoned internet 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:45.760 user I look carefully at that URL before I click it okay tuning in from Croatia 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:48.599 sweet I I hate that so much because I have to click on the window in order to 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:55.040 use the mouse to scroll or the wheel to scroll but then it always expands people's tweets what is rant 30 I don't 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.880 know okay I recognize that Tablet Plus NES emulator isn't that a thing Logan 00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:01.760 does uh rant 30 like inbox exe and the tech 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:06.480 are the only ones I know I think he does rant 30 does he do a new rant thing I 00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:08.839 think so oh okay let me see you keep 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:14.520 going uh watching the Line Tech tips live stream yay while finishing up my 00:42:11.359 --> 00:42:16.280 keyboard okay maybe changing out keyc 00:42:14.520 --> 00:42:19.480 Caps or something like that changing out key caps cleaning something sure will 00:42:18.319 --> 00:42:23.800 you purchase I still got to play a Starcraft game with you I recognize that Twitter will you purchase either of the 00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:29.119 new consoles yeah Tech Syndicate rant 30 um 00:42:30.640 --> 00:42:36.359 no no probably not or I'll wait until like the next iteration cuz there's 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:40.079 going to be like you know it's going to be like 10 years right yeah but it's 00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:44.880 going to you're going to be like in your mid-30s by the time you can buy one of 00:42:42.520 --> 00:42:47.920 these because the new one's out no I don't mean next Generation as in like 00:42:46.359 --> 00:42:53.200 PlayStation 4 and Xbox whatever the heck they decide to 00:42:50.040 --> 00:42:56.040 name it I mean like Xbox Elite 00:42:53.200 --> 00:42:59.920 PlayStation slim like like the the new model cuz there's always the new like 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:04.800 the lower power one that comes all the features the original one should have so 00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:08.440 I'm going to wait for like the the nicer models so you're waiting for service 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:12.640 pack one basically okay because then at the same time there will be more games 00:43:10.359 --> 00:43:16.240 right okay cuz buying buying consoles at release and as far as I know these ones 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:19.599 will have a huge plethora of games which will be nice um but buying consoles at 00:43:18.160 --> 00:43:23.960 release I find there's usually not enough going to be a half a 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:27.559 dozen games that are maybe worth playing yeah you know I'm I'm sticking with my 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:33.720 whole thing where I always own like the previous generation one so when when uh 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:38.240 when PS1 came out actually no I never did get an m64 okay okay we're not 00:43:35.640 --> 00:43:42.359 including we but when PS2 came out I got a PlayStation one like right at that 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:46.960 time when PlayStation 3 came out I got a PlayStation 2 super cheap boom I I I've 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.680 only played like two games on it though I played through all actually no more 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:54.800 than that I played through all of the PS2 final fantasies okay so but honestly 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:59.880 they started getting really terrible like X2 was just awful uh Final Fantasy 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:03.280 MMO apparently is re-releasing it it's supposed to be way better than it was 00:44:01.319 --> 00:44:06.280 never it's an MMO I'm not paying a subscription to play a game is it a 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:11.599 subscription one I don't know I don't care yeah I'm not really that interested 00:44:08.359 --> 00:44:13.520 other CL online's coming the okay yeah I 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:17.200 won't talk about it yeah don't stop talking you know you know what's funny 00:44:15.720 --> 00:44:21.800 is I believe there was a tweet or something in twitch chat last time around was like oh Slick's not here we 00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:27.160 won't have to hear about all Scrolls I didn't get in the beta again 00:44:24.040 --> 00:44:28.880 anyways um uh watching live from Brazil 00:44:27.160 --> 00:44:33.839 hello hello can you clone your hard drive to an SSD without losing your OS 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.920 yes yep in fact Corsair has a kit Intel 00:44:33.839 --> 00:44:40.880 drives include it Samsung drives include the software um and if you don't have 00:44:38.680 --> 00:44:44.640 any software uh crucial has a kit that you can buy with their drives uh left 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:48.520 for dead three that was that was the other one that was rumored to be coming 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:53.359 although quite frankly if it's anything like Left for Dead 1 to Left for Dead 2 00:44:50.520 --> 00:44:58.800 in terms of changes then you know what valve whoa whoa whoa that's not a middle 00:44:57.040 --> 00:45:05.000 technically yeah all right but either way um yeah that was that was not worth 00:45:02.520 --> 00:45:09.359 the 50 bucks or whatever I paid for Left for Dead too it was the same game it was 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:13.920 like yeah we changed the skin color of like the chick and the dude we swapped 00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:17.240 them there was a pallet swap I played Left 4 Dead a bit but I didn't play Left 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:20.280 4 Dead too was the same game wasn't there like a few more different they 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:27.040 added some monsters it could have been a DLC for $4.99 it was a full game release 00:45:24.319 --> 00:45:32.359 yeah it was brutal uh what's a good PSU a single GPU PC um depends on right now 00:45:30.680 --> 00:45:35.920 that kind of depends on what CPU you're running with Haswell coming around yeah 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:40.599 that's true get a Haswell ready one so it supports the Deep Sleep States and uh 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:45.319 I don't know I mean if if you're running a Haswell chip you can get quite low how 00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:49.440 about what's not a good PSU really really really really low 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:54.359 wattage or way way way way way too high wattage wasting money any good brand 00:45:51.559 --> 00:46:00.800 name you know 500 to 600 watt is going to be pretty safe for almost any single 00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:03.920 GPU you know Corsair Cooler Master seic 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.960 antech with with with uh Ivy I saw a lot 00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:09.440 of people going 600 watt but Haswell now I've seen a lot of people dropping it 00:46:07.160 --> 00:46:15.839 down to 500 watt everyone seems fine in our Haswell build guide where we put in 00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:18.960 a GTX 780 right we put in what like a 00:46:15.839 --> 00:46:21.200 520 watt power supply didn't even come 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:26.280 close to maxing it out totally fine yeah love the show thank you y we love you 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:29.720 too Saleem VFX uh good morning from Romania oh oh I have actually this is 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:34.400 not related to Twitter we'll get back to Twitter in a moment but we're looking at 00:46:31.720 --> 00:46:39.960 potentially adding a call-in segment right soon so guys we might I don't know 00:46:38.160 --> 00:46:42.559 how long it'll be I don't know exactly how it's going to work yet buts are 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:47.760 going to be interesting we're going to do a trial run next week and then the 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:51.359 official one sponsored by our unnamed sponsor who will be announced at some 00:46:49.640 --> 00:46:54.520 point will be probably the following week but we haven't gotten 100% 00:46:52.800 --> 00:47:00.720 confirmation on that yet cool that's going to be very cool uh 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:06.440 there we go good morning from Romania hi LCD or LED go watch the video on Tech 00:47:03.520 --> 00:47:10.359 quickie LCD versus LED they don't happen to be different things necessarily have 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:15.200 you seen how to uninstall macafee antivirus on YouTube uh no I haven't if 00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:20.480 it's anything like the how to install iOS 7 video it's probably just 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:22.119 ridiculous yeah uh Left 4 Dead 3 also 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:26.480 why you know say Linux like your name with an 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:32.760 X oh Steve that's the worst question I think 's ever sent into this show uh 00:47:29.720 --> 00:47:35.200 because it's not my name well even the 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:39.640 Linux guy's name is lonus the same is mine what kind of question is that Linux 00:47:38.520 --> 00:47:45.520 isn't a name yeah are you leaving yeah oh okay 00:47:43.040 --> 00:47:48.280 do you want to pop in and say hi do you guys want diesel to pop in and say hi 00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:51.920 hold on I'm going to check and see if twitch chat even wants you to he wanted 00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:57.800 me to knock on the wall no if they don't if they don't want you to then uh we're 00:47:53.520 --> 00:47:58.960 not going to oh oh unanimously no 00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:05.280 no no they're they're all saying yes they're all saying yes you can come join us so guys if you if you haven't if you 00:48:03.240 --> 00:48:10.520 haven't seen them already get comfy diesel the intern joining 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:13.599 us okay now I'm GNA go okay all right good night see you Monday 00:48:12.720 --> 00:48:19.000 see youing yeah for those of you who don't know we're in the new HQ so everyone's 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:25.800 uh everyone's here we're all uh we're all working enjoying our linous Media 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:27.640 Group uh lucrative high-paying jobs that 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:33.960 shut up that YouTube money 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.960 right whatever man khakis is Australian 00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:39.000 for car keys I actually kind of believe that although I think you're pulling my 00:48:37.240 --> 00:48:43.920 leg uh what fans do you recommend for the h100 hold on hold on hold on you got 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:51.040 three guesses in the first two don't count Noctua what model n12 Noctua n12 00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:55.240 thank you same check out our check out our cooling benches they're really 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:59.640 freaking good you know what here is here's something that I would like to 00:48:57.160 --> 00:49:04.200 get some feedback from the viewers on and uh okay so so we're done with a 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:09.599 Twitter with that Twitter Blitz for now guys you know how much I love Noctua 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:13.839 okay so I you probably know how much I love 00:49:10.520 --> 00:49:17.000 Noctua Noctua doesn't really do a lot of 00:49:13.839 --> 00:49:19.760 marketing like have you ever seen have 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:23.680 you ever seen a nocta ad ask yourself that however much you also happen to 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:27.200 love Noctua if you love them as much as we do one quick thing I'm going to Jud 00:49:25.240 --> 00:49:31.839 in when we going through the computer like crazy computer shop area in Korea 00:49:29.520 --> 00:49:36.440 there was a store that only sold Noctua products that's awesome it wasn't a no a 00:49:33.640 --> 00:49:38.520 store called lus store no oh okay well they should have they should have been 00:49:37.720 --> 00:49:46.319 called it should have been called the Linux store because apparently that's my name now I it sells only fans so we've 00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:50.599 been talking to Noctua they know how much we love them and their products we 00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:55.640 were blown away by the cool fraking stuff that uh that we saw at their booth 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:59.880 at computex and we basically sat down with them and we went look 00:49:57.359 --> 00:50:03.960 we love your products we want to pimp your products we pimp your products even 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:09.200 though you've never spent a dollar with us in terms of sponsorship or 00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:11.520 advertising cab roll is there any way 00:50:09.200 --> 00:50:16.040 that you guys would consider sponsoring Us in some way so that if we're going to 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:19.880 pimp your products anyway we can at least turn this into like some kind of 00:50:17.680 --> 00:50:23.720 mutually supportive relationship because let me tell you nocta has already 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:27.559 noticed how much traffic is coming to their website from lus Tech tips Forum 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:32.079 cool and I was like you know what's funny is what you've probably seen a lot 00:50:30.040 --> 00:50:37.160 of is um I don't I think these fans are 00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:41.079 ugly but lonus recommends them for some reason so I might as well look at so you 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:44.680 should probably buy them and they were it's funny because they're their 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:50.319 engineer burst out laughing he was like yeah that's exactly what they 00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:54.240 said it's like these ugly fans that inexplicably lius gets like a raging B- 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:58.359 word over so anyway I was like I was sitting 00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:02.680 down with them and I'm like how do we make this something that makes sense 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:07.799 that doesn't compromise our integrity because honestly I don't want it to be 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:10.760 like a paid thing yeah because we'll Honestly though it it and we'll we'll 00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:16.720 continue doing it even if they don't give us a dollar because we do so much 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:20.720 already cooler reviews anything that ever needs a fan even in the room tour 00:51:18.799 --> 00:51:25.599 we shot the other day of this room you brought I know I'm like there's my pile 00:51:22.839 --> 00:51:32.880 of nocas that I don't actually use in my own system man the new black ones 00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:36.200 though I need those they're like $30 a 00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:38.640 fan people buy them though a thing like 00:51:36.200 --> 00:51:43.119 okay I saw one complaint about the uh brown rubber uh noise dancing thing on 00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:46.319 the corners they're not that bad and you can take them off you can take them off 00:51:44.720 --> 00:51:49.520 yeah well you can take them off on the current on that's true so I'm assuming 00:51:47.839 --> 00:51:53.480 you can take them off okay that's true okay so guys we want your feedback how 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:57.720 could lonus Tech tips possibly collaborate with in with Noctua in some 00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:01.839 way that wouldn't bother you guys but that would be you know somehow help less 00:52:00.359 --> 00:52:05.640 Media Group pay our bills because we have a lot of them so I'm I'm going to 00:52:04.040 --> 00:52:09.799 the Twitter boards and I'm opening up the twitch chat and I'm going to look at what you guys have to say I'm going to 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:14.040 try and read the twitch chat but y'all don't have a whole lot of uh oh my 00:52:12.240 --> 00:52:17.559 apparently there's like massive horse penises in the twitch chat so we're 00:52:15.520 --> 00:52:23.640 going to go to uh we're going to go back to Twitter 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:26.799 here uh I okay I have no idea that 00:52:23.640 --> 00:52:28.240 anyway fan controller yes or no um I 00:52:26.799 --> 00:52:32.799 personally don't like manual fan controllers because I think they're super pointless you're never going to 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:37.240 touch it yeah uh but automated fan controllers yay stuff like T balancer 00:52:35.359 --> 00:52:40.359 which we both you get yours working yeah oh cool okay U stuff like T balancer 00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:43.559 which we both have is amazing did you get it like configurable working like I 00:52:42.200 --> 00:52:48.839 sent you the software patch and all that man that's ridiculous it's really hard we should do a guide on 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:52.640 that I wonder how I already forgot how to fully do it it took me a while well 00:52:50.720 --> 00:52:57.040 it took me hours the first time back when I did it like 3 years ago and then 00:52:54.640 --> 00:53:01.200 it took me hours the second time even with your like kind of ghetto guide 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:07.119 thing that you gave me like it took me a long time comments on how iOS 7 looks um 00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:10.720 honestly I am I find it extremely confusing some of the visual changes 00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:16.119 that they've made in iOS 7 I don't think it contributes in any meaningful way and 00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:18.599 Marcus brownley uh has a fantastic video 00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:23.160 sort of covering how the Innovative features in iOS 00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:26.920 7 kind of not that Innovative to elaborate I'm running a GTX 570 sorry 00:53:25.319 --> 00:53:32.359 man we got that out of order much I can do Sheamus I have ios7 working fine cool 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:39.040 beans GTX 780 versus 770 I don't see a compelling reason to grab a 770 versus a 00:53:34.839 --> 00:53:42.079 used 680 for example um I would grab a 00:53:39.040 --> 00:53:44.640 780 however 780 is Beast if I had the 00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:48.680 budget for it 780 and 770 is not the same ballpark they are not on the same 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:52.359 tier in a way that we actually haven't seen in many generations the top tier 00:53:51.160 --> 00:54:00.240 card in fact I don't think we've ever seen this before not that big of a spread as far as I know that's insane 00:53:55.680 --> 00:54:02.079 like 90 even like 9700 Pro 9500 Pro same 00:54:00.240 --> 00:54:07.119 GPU architecture I don't think we've ever seen it not the same 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:11.559 GPU for the top tier and the next tier well isn't it gk110 and gk104 yeah yeah 00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:15.640 cuz the G I know what you're saying like this is the first time we've seen it sorry I thought you were saying the 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:20.520 exact same one I realized what you're saying now but like charts break because 00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:24.720 of it yeah I know it's like yeah like Slick's having trouble 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:31.400 with our uh 40 new interactions anything to say 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:33.319 about the 8,000 series nope if you make 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:36.960 a military build it's the only way no look good in a case true Dad I'm looking 00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:40.720 for a gaming mouse without a ton of buttons for MMOs can you recommend me 00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:44.200 stuff course their M40 actually looks compelling and Death Adder 2013 if you 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:48.520 don't mind the hair trigger buttons which are driving me crazy if you need a 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:52.000 bigger Mouse Funk ms3 Funk ms3 Is Not a Bad Bet either I would do a build video 00:54:50.640 --> 00:54:56.000 with all no tour products and show how to install use and they sponsor it 00:54:53.920 --> 00:55:00.079 that's actually not a bad idea where we do an ultimate silent build which I 00:54:58.359 --> 00:55:05.799 think everyone should be on the same page would contain nocta products yeah 00:55:03.040 --> 00:55:09.480 that's not a bad idea yeah okay uh we need to fight bandwagoning and single 00:55:07.640 --> 00:55:16.079 brand bias you should be impartial be quiet! and Fant text is equal more or 00:55:11.040 --> 00:55:19.000 less no they're not so there um do you 00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:19.000 hate origin or 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:26.920 ea uh why not make KN to a commercials your commercials are awesome H the 00:55:24.680 --> 00:55:32.319 commercials are a huge up front investment and I think noctu is looking 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:34.119 for more like you know um they're very 00:55:32.319 --> 00:55:37.440 practical yeah as you may or may not have noticed from the design that goes 00:55:35.720 --> 00:55:42.359 into their products they're they're going to be more into some s some type 00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:45.319 of tech tip or some type of guide something like that they're a very 00:55:43.240 --> 00:55:48.760 technical community like a guide is more something that I can imagine them being 00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:53.880 interested in where it educates their their users in some meaningful 00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:59.200 way um I only ever use no toz as all my case fans what about 29in monitor I have 00:55:56.920 --> 00:56:03.559 no idea how those two things are related ads before actual video content 00:56:01.799 --> 00:56:07.559 like we normally do wouldn't bother me okay how about a Linus design fan like 00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:14.480 how Pro Gamers have mice and keyboards you know what honestly I pitched it um I 00:56:11.319 --> 00:56:16.880 I wanted to do it I was like guys let me 00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:21.200 at one of your products let me make some tweaks that I think will make sense 00:56:18.799 --> 00:56:24.200 visually and uh let me turn it into something that I would proudly put in my 00:56:22.640 --> 00:56:28.240 system because as much as I love no to one I refuse to use anything else on 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:32.079 like test benches or whatever else they still haven't found a home in my system 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:35.920 even though they are superior to every product I use in my system and I know it 00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:40.000 because I just can't handle the looks although the new black ones will they 00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:43.960 will change all that oh my goodness they look so good super excited about that um 00:56:42.319 --> 00:56:47.880 I feel as though even being paid by Noctua wouldn't be a bad thing as 00:56:45.319 --> 00:56:51.920 they're a great brand yeah still though get Linus to replace the girl in the top 00:56:49.799 --> 00:56:57.640 corner of no. yeah I'm not as hot as her I haven't 00:56:54.440 --> 00:57:00.839 seen her but I'm sure that I'm not as 00:56:57.640 --> 00:57:02.680 attractive uh I'm going to start putting 00:57:00.839 --> 00:57:07.319 lus sent me here in my comments for products very nice uh just be like lonus 00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:12.400 uses these fans put them in your build though I can't I can't until the black 00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:16.240 ones come then I will then I will mark my words I believe it have the fans 00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:19.920 installed in all your cases water and rad so so more like a product placement 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:25.359 thing we already we already kind of do it even we totally don't already do that 00:57:22.359 --> 00:57:27.319 I know we should totally have a contest 00:57:25.359 --> 00:57:30.559 where you PID had entered into a no to a contest I could use some fans you could 00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:33.640 use 10 bucks we don't want to take money from the community for I don't like 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:39.000 those kind of contests at all they seem so scammy yeah I 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.760 don't uh put your face on the fan boxes 00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:44.400 have Josh from fractal as a booth babe show off the no fans goodness that would 00:57:42.319 --> 00:57:47.480 work fractal has fans so I don't know that they're going to want to do that 00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:50.760 build a comp together computer together with nox you know what something like a 00:57:48.799 --> 00:57:54.880 sponsored build where we do like ultimate silence build might make a lot 00:57:53.359 --> 00:57:59.079 of sense maybe I'll reach out to them with that something that could be really 00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:02.799 cool it's really far away and probably super impractical but if you could go to 00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:05.319 their facility and see how they test like noise levels and all that other 00:58:04.200 --> 00:58:11.280 kind of stuff because we've done that before but knock TOA doesn't that would be phenomenally expensive though you 00:58:09.160 --> 00:58:15.440 have to fly at least me plus one like I said super not practical to Austria 00:58:13.240 --> 00:58:19.599 super far away you know what's funny it would just be really cool I'm convinced 00:58:17.359 --> 00:58:23.599 at this point that all Austrian computer companies know each other uh you know 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:27.839 what they do what are you trying to do here go uh do another Topic in the 00:58:25.160 --> 00:58:32.520 meantime wow that was random um let me find the topic list and find something 00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:34.720 to talk about 00:58:34.720 --> 00:58:41.599 uh wow I don't have anything on here 00:58:38.640 --> 00:58:41.599 sorry guys give me a 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:52.520 second it's open in a tab on yours yeah sorry give me one sec 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:57.520 and it's to it to the screen okay I don't know how to do that 00:58:56.200 --> 00:59:03.200 I'm going to jump into something super random he has it titled 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:04.599 as erotic adventure with oculus rift so 00:59:03.200 --> 00:59:10.039 basically what's going on is people are developing games for Oculus Rift already Oculus Rift is virtual reality that goes 00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:15.400 on your head it's freaking awesome I've tried it check out our what is it called 00:59:12.319 --> 00:59:17.119 Omni video to see Oculus Rift in action 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:24.200 Oculus Rift is very very cool another thing to check out on the same topic is 00:59:18.839 --> 00:59:26.319 EVR or Eve VR it's a uh dog fighting 00:59:24.200 --> 00:59:32.119 style space combat game inspired by by Eve made by CCP which is the guys that 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:37.200 make Eve but it's done with oculus rift and that with razor Hydra a that would 00:59:35.319 --> 00:59:40.240 be so cool I got so excited when I saw that trailer if you haven't seen it yet 00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:44.799 and you're interested in VR definitely check that out but back on to the topic 00:59:42.160 --> 00:59:50.480 that's in here is Oculus Rift erotic Adventure one thing that um lonus put in 00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:55.839 here is how detri how detrimental is this to have it released before the 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:58.119 Oculus Rift even hits the market um in 00:59:55.839 --> 01:00:02.359 my my opinion it could get some bad rep for Oculus Rift and it could get some 00:59:59.799 --> 01:00:06.280 bad rep for itself um because of certain people that aren't going to want this 01:00:03.720 --> 01:00:10.799 but if people don't think there is already erotic games like you're 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:14.599 delusional there's tons of them already they're out there people don't have to 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:20.280 play them and people won't have to play the one with oculus rift it's not a 01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:22.359 requirement so in my opinion you 01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:27.960 probably should have seen this coming it was going to happen uh if you're a 01:00:25.240 --> 01:00:30.760 parent just monitor your kids game library or whatever just make sure they 01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:35.319 don't play it if you don't want them to play it like I don't think it's the 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:41.520 biggest deal um this kind of stuff will happen with 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:42.960 everything everyone saw this coming like 01:00:41.520 --> 01:00:47.240 the fact that it's releasing before Oculus Rift hits the market is 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:50.079 interesting but not that surprising because they're going to want this 01:00:48.200 --> 01:00:53.000 available for everyone right away and it's probably not going to have to be 01:00:51.359 --> 01:00:56.559 the highest quality thing in the world so that's really not that 01:00:54.480 --> 01:01:04.839 surprising what are you do doing that's weird and not in 01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:04.839 Focus focusing is often my 01:01:06.200 --> 01:01:14.119 problem so so why did you grab the angel bird the angel bird this is hilarious 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:16.760 because we did an unboxing of this uh aluminum enclosure I mean the 01:01:15.720 --> 01:01:23.240 craftsmanship of this thing is outstanding I think we can all agree on that I found out why it uses USB 3 Type 01:01:21.640 --> 01:01:27.359 A connectors at the back did I tell you this yet because and this is funny 01:01:25.720 --> 01:01:32.480 because because it so validates something I've been ranting about for so 01:01:29.200 --> 01:01:36.480 long Angel bird Austrian 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:38.799 company actually tested every usb3 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:42.880 connector implementation to find out how many inser like in a practical Everyday 01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:46.920 Use scenario how many inserts it was good for and they found that every other 01:01:44.720 --> 01:01:56.559 connector failed around 350 350 yes whereas usba a was good for 01:01:53.240 --> 01:02:00.079 3 3500 Plus 01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:02.640 that is why they're using USB 3 on the 01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:06.559 back like type A on the back of their drive because they actually validate it 01:02:04.359 --> 01:02:10.000 and they actually care unlike that's Beast cell phone companies which I find 01:02:08.680 --> 01:02:13.960 it unbelievable that they all standardized on micro USB mine is almost 01:02:12.319 --> 01:02:17.520 kind of broken I've told you about that right it's ridiculous the worst 01:02:15.680 --> 01:02:20.880 connector in the world y the little contact on the inside of mine is super 01:02:19.240 --> 01:02:26.359 flimsy maybe not the worst connector in the world but it's not good but it's terrible expecting it to last based on 01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:30.279 that angel bird only was able to validate it for around 365 and that was 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:35.559 the USB 3 one which is wider I mean given you have to charge a 01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:39.279 phone every day it will not last for 3 years I have problems with mine I have 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:42.960 to sometimes I have to like angle my phone interestingly so that it will 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:46.440 actually like press up against it so it'll work properly and like pushing it 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:50.839 in there sometimes I'm really careful so I actually get the thing in like so the 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:53.880 angel bird guys were telling the Noctua guys about our great unboxing and 01:02:52.319 --> 01:02:59.240 they're like yeah he covered our booth too blah blah blah blah blah so the angel bird guys is like yeah Jacob from 01:02:56.799 --> 01:03:02.960 nocta says hi and I'm like do you guys all like live in the same town or 01:03:00.799 --> 01:03:07.359 something they I'm sure they all talk to each other anyway I got a kick out of 01:03:04.319 --> 01:03:09.520 that that's cool that's Prett so uh uh 01:03:07.359 --> 01:03:12.839 let's talk oh I just talking about the Oculus Rift thing if you want to add 01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:17.920 comments no I just think that that's extremely detrimental to sort of the 01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:22.119 image yeah that VR is going to have at the very beginning oh it is I mean but 01:03:20.319 --> 01:03:26.400 at the same time what I said is everyone should have seen this coming on the other hand it might push it to 01:03:24.520 --> 01:03:31.400 mainstream like right quick 01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:33.640 fast that's also possible po POV 01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:38.039 Adventure uh yeah but like okay seriously everyone should have seen this 01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:43.720 coming they get to every medium you know what though in terms of PC games there 01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:48.279 hasn't been that much they exist though okay but there's some like I If I recall 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:52.720 correctly there were some experienced game devs with pretty impressive resumes 01:03:50.520 --> 01:03:59.240 working on this was it I haven't looked into it yeah no I did okay but anyway so 01:03:56.319 --> 01:04:04.520 okay I wanted to move on to the AMD upcoming uh 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:07.559 CPUs oh yeah with the gigahertz race on 01:04:04.520 --> 01:04:09.119 again AMD releasing the first 5 GHz CPU 01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:14.839 I talked about it a little bit last week so I don't know have have you heard anything about this no okay three things 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:19.279 number one is these are very cherry-picked they are going to be 01:04:16.799 --> 01:04:24.119 extremely Limited in Supply number two is they are not intended to be available 01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:32.359 in the retail channel so the 9590 and the 9570 will be system Builder only SKS 01:04:27.279 --> 01:04:35.240 much like the um oh crap what was it I 01:04:32.359 --> 01:04:40.039 think it was AMD's first dual GPU card that had the ridiculous like handle on 01:04:37.200 --> 01:04:45.200 it yeah or like maybe it was like the ear like was it like a 2900 XT 01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:46.680 overclocked or or an x850 XT like 01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:52.279 Platinum Edition something like like AMD's done this before back then they 01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:54.920 were ATI but whatever um so anyway they 01:04:52.279 --> 01:04:59.640 they've done stuff like this before and so these are going to be system builder 01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:01.960 only SKS and last but not least check 01:04:59.640 --> 01:05:09.359 this out 220 watt TDP I yeah I did know that that 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:14.160 is the most ludicrous thing so insane that I have ever seen so this was 01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:16.160 submitted on the Forum by metrop P who 01:05:14.160 --> 01:05:20.039 uh has linked here with his own little blur although we prefer a little bit of 01:05:17.720 --> 01:05:23.880 a longer write up than that guys uh if you don't mind and I just zoomed in and 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:30.119 now I'm breaking everything so anyway softpedia andd won't sell the 5 GHz and 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:32.119 4.7 GHz CPUs two consumers Two Cherry 01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:35.359 Picked yeah two Cherry Picked I suspect there just aren't enough of them and not 01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:41.240 only that but they'll Ship Without cooling solutions and they will be expecting uh aftermarket coolers on 01:05:39.359 --> 01:05:48.599 these things because of the extremely high 220 watt TDP and the funny thing is 01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:53.240 um most of the people that have sent me messages about this seem to be under the 01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:57.839 impression thatd is concerned about the chips not being cooled enough I call 01:05:55.319 --> 01:06:01.960 ball on that because Intel already does it with their six core processors all 01:05:59.720 --> 01:06:07.160 LGA 2011 processors ship with no heat sink these are high TDP chips they are 01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:10.480 expecting people to put an appropriate cooler on it with that said it's a 01:06:08.640 --> 01:06:14.599 different socket and you'd expect any cooler on lga2011 to be appropriate for 01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:18.880 an LGA 2011 chip but there are quad cores on 2011 there are lowprofile 01:06:16.279 --> 01:06:24.200 coolers that I kind of look at and I go seriously oh jeez you know that one we 01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:26.680 have just like really maybe if the fan 01:06:24.200 --> 01:06:30.319 goes speaking of nocta who I love so dearly they have a low profile cooler 01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:33.880 coming it looks so sexy speaking of noct we killed their website double stack did 01:06:31.640 --> 01:06:36.079 we really yeah 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:44.599 oops sorry sorry sorry Jacob um I think 01:06:42.680 --> 01:06:50.599 the problem is actually to do with the vrm on motherboards because we've seen this 01:06:48.359 --> 01:06:56.160 before with AMD when they started releasing some of their High TDP Black 01:06:52.839 --> 01:06:58.920 Edition chips um even not to 200 plus 01:06:56.160 --> 01:07:02.359 wattt TDP chip so remember that is going to be pulling a ton of power these are 01:07:00.319 --> 01:07:07.760 basically overclocked CPUs out of the box Cherry Picked and overclocked um 01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:10.880 people were killing boards because they were putting them on consumer grade 01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:16.079 boards remember AMD doesn't have a socket differentiation strategy I 01:07:13.200 --> 01:07:20.720 believe AMD is concerned not only about consumers putting them on boards that 01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:23.480 are going to fry but also motherboard 01:07:20.720 --> 01:07:27.880 manufacturers validating these chips on boards that can't handle them in the 01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:32.279 long term Intel saw a ton of this back in the presc days I saw motherboards 01:07:30.680 --> 01:07:38.359 that had been running for maybe a year and a half where the entire back of the 01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:40.520 board along the vrm was brownish black 01:07:38.359 --> 01:07:44.240 yeah and they weren't even dead yet they were still running but Lord only knows 01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:48.480 what kind of voltages they were delivering to the CPU by that point how 01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:53.839 damaged they were so this wouldn't be the first time that a CPU manufacturer 01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:57.559 has gone okay whoa hold on this chip needs a lot of power maybe we better be 01:07:55.720 --> 01:08:01.119 careful what kind of motherboards it's being put in and I know that some of the 01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:06.000 boards that it's being validated with are things like Crosshair 5 where ASUS 01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:09.480 on their Rog boards overb builds the vrm to the point where it's just kind of 01:08:07.240 --> 01:08:13.880 stupid yeah but that's what they need but that's what they do yeah and that's 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:17.000 what this chip needs so um so there you go that's my that's my take on that 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:23.319 whole thing that's interesting that makes sense uh TDP thermal design power 01:08:20.040 --> 01:08:26.080 so TDP is used a little H it's used a 01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:31.239 little bit interchangeably with power and thermal output so that is how much 01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:35.480 heat it generates and the the thing is that there does tend to be a correlation 01:08:33.719 --> 01:08:40.279 between the P the power consumption of the Chip And The Heat that it wastes 01:08:37.679 --> 01:08:44.759 because efficiency is efficiency across an architecture and so the amount of 01:08:43.480 --> 01:08:49.880 heat that you're going to generate as waste is going to have something to do with how much power consumption that 01:08:47.799 --> 01:08:53.279 it's actually using versus how much of it gets expelled as heat and part of the 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:59.400 confusion also comes from the fact that watts are used for both heat and Power 01:08:55.880 --> 01:09:02.199 but TDP strictly speaking refers to the 01:08:59.400 --> 01:09:05.600 actual thermal output of a chip or graphics card or whatever else it just 01:09:04.120 --> 01:09:11.839 happens that like it's funny because you look at the TDP of something like um a 01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:13.679 GTX 690 versus a Radeon 7990 there's a 01:09:11.839 --> 01:09:18.560 75 watt difference it happens that underload power consumption is a 75 watt 01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:23.679 difference so you see where the confusion comes 01:09:19.799 --> 01:09:26.520 from so yeah so 220 wat TDP means these 01:09:23.679 --> 01:09:30.239 things bust out a ton of heat which also affects the vrm solution because even if 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:34.960 you have a beefy vrm if it doesn't have adequate Cooling and there's this 220 01:09:32.719 --> 01:09:39.759 watt heating element and that's before people overclock them and TDP goes on a 01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:44.839 curve like this as you start to overclock it um there's a lot of heat 01:09:42.120 --> 01:09:49.520 there that can burn out vrms as well uh how bad are Corsair SP 1220s compared to 01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:53.560 n2s I mean they're not bad they have a bit more of a ticking noise particularly 01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:58.400 when they're undervolted um they don't perform as well um 01:09:56.400 --> 01:10:01.920 they look really they look way better that's that's I think that's where the 01:10:00.040 --> 01:10:06.159 main competition is people don't like the look of nocu but you see a lot of SP 01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:10.600 that's why I'm using GED wings and AP1 121s cuz I can't accept the nocas in my 01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:16.120 in my personal build which has a blue and black color scheme the interchangeable rings on SP 1220s are 01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:19.719 awesome that was such that was such an innovation really good move it was like 01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:21.840 the weirdest smallest thing I didn't think it mattered at first and then I 01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:25.120 started seeing it in different colored builds and I was just like they hit the 01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:30.239 nail on the head with that one they really really did yeah hey lonus why don't you ever talk about GTX funny cuz 01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:36.600 I just talked about it uh I don't have one NVIDIA never sent me one because I 01:10:32.360 --> 01:10:38.560 was literally in a delivery room when 01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:43.080 the conference call that I had to be on in order to get one was going on not 01:10:40.360 --> 01:10:47.920 delivery room as in like male yeah like like my baby was being born so uh so 01:10:46.040 --> 01:10:50.800 they so I mean they only have review samples when they have review samples 01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:57.840 and it was one of those things where they were just like 01:10:53.040 --> 01:10:59.960 dude sorry man and I was like okay okay 01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:04.080 still can't make it but okay other than that we have every NVIDIA GPU that 01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:08.199 they've done over the last uh however long so uh tell us more about the Omni 01:11:06.320 --> 01:11:11.719 experience it was very cool but we've talked about it a fair bit we actually 01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:15.960 have an interview with uh with Yan coming up on the line of tech tips 01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:18.320 Channel soon is the ASUS Zonar something 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:23.320 still relevant probably um I don't know I can never remember what a DX or an XE 01:11:20.719 --> 01:11:27.199 or seem to move way too fast they don't move too fast get a Zonar you'll be 01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:31.280 happy you'll be good for at least quite a while yes I prefer single GPU cards 01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:35.560 what's up with the 590 in my rig I had a water block I had a 590 and they look so 01:11:34.280 --> 01:11:41.600 good with that water block and they look so good with that water block like I use 01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:43.320 bad components people ask me what's in 01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:47.560 my personal rig and I'm almost afraid to tell them sometimes because I use stuff 01:11:45.120 --> 01:11:51.880 that just makes no sense yes but then look at the same time look at super 01:11:49.440 --> 01:11:55.360 super high-end system Builders like like people making stuff for million dollar 01:11:53.280 --> 01:11:59.560 PC and stuff if you look at what's in in the computer it's not always that good 01:11:57.400 --> 01:12:04.760 but the stuff I'm using is like balling but like makes no sense I have an 01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:06.840 extreme Edition yeah like I I don't even 01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:10.639 have it overclocked that hard I could literally get a 01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:15.280 3930k overclock it and get better performance if I just spent a little bit 01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:18.360 of time T tuning it um I have two sticks 01:12:15.280 --> 01:12:20.000 of RAM in an LGA 2011 board right now 01:12:18.360 --> 01:12:24.600 because I just haven't gotten around to moving the RAM that's in that rig over 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:27.199 there to my system I have a 590 which 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:31.600 makes not an ounce of sense because the power consumption of it especially 01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:35.880 compared to 600 series and 7,000 series is terrible at idol the amount of heat 01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:42.800 it kicks out is just devastating um I have looks good some 01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:47.320 ludicrous raid card with eight ssds in raid zero which I do not recommend 01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:51.520 running the amount of times I've had panic moments because my computer blue 01:12:49.400 --> 01:12:55.960 screens and the RAID controller has a small freak out and loses my array and I 01:12:53.800 --> 01:13:01.320 have to swap the cables and the alarms off and the I mean I'm I'm running in a 01:12:58.639 --> 01:13:05.159 Cari laser which is like a 5-year-old Mouse I was like I was talking to one of 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:10.080 the guys that used to be at meic and he was like really there's way better mice 01:13:07.320 --> 01:13:13.760 out there and I'm like I know but I just I love it and I can't change I just 01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:17.800 can't change I have it dialed into exactly the settings I like what can I 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:22.040 do changing mice is difficult it really is I'm trying to change to the death out 01:13:19.400 --> 01:13:26.400 2013 right now even just form factor because okay I have a G500 yeah I know 01:13:24.639 --> 01:13:31.719 that there's problems with the lasers yeah that is a very well-known thing so 01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:36.320 don't listen to us basically but if I put my hand on any other Mouse it's like 01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:42.719 Oh that's oh it doesn't feel like a G500 yeah like I look at like my uh my case 01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:45.840 makes no sense like tj07 that I've 01:13:42.719 --> 01:13:47.320 probably spent $7 to $800 on and then I 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:51.560 haven't even spent the money in ways that are like good like instead of 01:13:49.400 --> 01:13:57.199 buying like a Murder mod front panel for it I got a bunch of antech 900 front 01:13:54.440 --> 01:14:01.679 grills and like powder coated them so that I could put another Radiator in the 01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:07.000 front with like velcro let's see what else about my 01:14:04.120 --> 01:14:09.960 build makes my pump is like 5 and 1/2 years old and you have newer ones with 01:14:08.480 --> 01:14:15.159 the same and I have newer ones with the same model but I was just like oh I don't know this one's like Works it'll 01:14:13.440 --> 01:14:20.320 probably be fine should be fine don't worry about it hey 01:14:17.679 --> 01:14:25.719 girl yeah so I hate telling people about my rig I'm running a BenQ 24in monitor 01:14:23.639 --> 01:14:31.120 that probably weighs as much as a CR T cuz it's so old it's like some slow VA 01:14:28.719 --> 01:14:35.920 panel because my my 30-in monitor broke and I don't have money to replace it so 01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:40.400 yeah bike over monitor I should totally do a Kickstarter buy Linus a new 01:14:38.360 --> 01:14:45.600 monitor and like what do you get for doing it lamest Kickstarter ever you get 01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:48.520 the self-satisfaction that's horrible 01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:53.800 I'm not going to do it okay um there's people tweeting about us crashing noa's 01:14:51.040 --> 01:14:59.239 website sorry Noca sorry um 01:14:55.679 --> 01:14:59.239 what do you think of track ball mice 01:14:59.280 --> 01:15:07.000 no we probably shouldn't get subjective no subjective um in very very specific 01:15:05.320 --> 01:15:10.360 use cases I think they can be very cool a lime fire X has to go how long is the 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:14.520 stream going to be I'm trying to say awake it's so early in the morning thank 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:17.199 you for trying I have no idea what time is it I don't know when we started I 01:15:16.080 --> 01:15:20.719 don't know when we started I don't know what time it is we were really late why 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:24.199 don't we burn through some topics here so that we can so we can at least end it 01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:30.600 when they're tired of listening to us okay um and anek did a did a pretty cool 01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:32.960 article uh best CPU best gaming CPUs for 01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:38.000 the money 2013 guys check this out it was submitted on the Forum by excuse me 01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:42.480 Samuel um there were a couple things in here that I thought were a little bit 01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:46.719 suspect um so this is by Ian cutris I believe he's a doctor so I'm going to 01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:51.639 say Dr cutris um I actually ran into him at computex cool yeah we ran into each 01:15:48.679 --> 01:15:54.639 other in the ASRock Booth cool um I didn't think he was going to recognize 01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:59.600 me because I'd only met him once before that I also ran into Anand and we filmed 01:15:57.400 --> 01:16:04.679 an interview that all of my editors passive aggressively didn't edit and 01:16:02.040 --> 01:16:09.239 didn't upload because apparently I was fanboying way too hard holy cow we 01:16:07.320 --> 01:16:14.960 should we should release it at least un like unedited and we just release it I'm 01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:18.800 not ashamed to Fanboy over on N it was awesome 40 minutes long whatever 50 01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:22.280 minutes long they don't have to watch the whole thing and then the walk away 01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:26.120 was amazing too I filmed part of it I don't think I'm going to release this 01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:30.400 but I filmed part of it with the other two guys in the crew just like us all 01:16:28.320 --> 01:16:34.159 talking about you and an N walking away whatever it was fantastic and then I 01:16:32.280 --> 01:16:39.120 drew like fake little love circles I can think of I can think of worse people to 01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:41.400 have a bromance with so anyway um so 01:16:39.120 --> 01:16:46.920 their conclusions A8 5600k plus the core parking updates for 01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:49.199 Windows is their CPU for single GPU 01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:53.639 gaming this was can you still even get those core parking updates I think so 01:16:51.440 --> 01:16:59.040 yeah okay and I think Windows 8 comes with them or something like it's not 01:16:54.960 --> 01:17:00.600 that bad um so interesting choice makes 01:16:59.040 --> 01:17:05.520 a lot of sense it does they're overclockable y it's not like you need I 01:17:02.679 --> 01:17:11.400 mean we saw going results going from Sandy bridge to Ivy bridge to Haswell in 01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:13.239 games what two three FPS that much you 01:17:11.400 --> 01:17:18.239 won't notice it that much I love my 2600k Pepsi challenge 01:17:15.639 --> 01:17:21.239 tmrc whatever all the things are Pepsi challenge aside like you'd never know 01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:28.040 the difference sitting down in front of them which is to me the most important thing 01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:33.560 my 2600k is overclocked quite well yep and I yeah I couldn't bring myself this 01:17:31.040 --> 01:17:38.280 CPU costs next to nothing yep the boards are cheap super cheap fm2 boards cost 01:17:36.320 --> 01:17:43.120 nothing 890 bucks for like a pretty good board for a pretty good board and it'll 01:17:40.679 --> 01:17:47.120 be Crossfire ready or whatever else so I thought that was a fantastic uh I 01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:49.840 thought that was a fantastic choice um the next one I thought was a little bit 01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:55.600 weird 2500k can you even still get these 2500k 01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:59.280 yeah that's actually not a bad choice though 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:05.560 I don't know how you could get one yeah exactly like what kind of what kind of recommendation is that though let me see 01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:07.719 real quick and fx8350 to me look really 01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:11.320 smacks of sort of trying to appease AMD here because 01:18:09.080 --> 01:18:15.199 fx8350 because games are not really going to leverage those extra cores in a 01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:19.199 meaningful way right now um is not going to perform that much better than the 01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:23.080 5600k that they already recommended especially after you're overclocking 01:18:20.639 --> 01:18:28.320 that 5600k I think it was almost reaching for like a better CPU to use 01:18:26.040 --> 01:18:31.639 for dual GPU gaming just so that they could recommend something because you 01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:37.440 still feel kind of silly putting a Titan in something like a 5600k system because 01:18:34.280 --> 01:18:40.199 it just feels inappropriate but um I 01:18:37.440 --> 01:18:44.320 mean really 2500k yeah it's not even listed on on NC it's not listed on 01:18:42.679 --> 01:18:49.280 NewEgg like where are you going to buy these I mean 3500 for 3570k I could kind 01:18:47.480 --> 01:18:53.800 of see and they do talk about that and the text blurb under it but uh yeah I 01:18:52.120 --> 01:18:58.400 think it's a good choice and then the next one was 01:18:55.840 --> 01:19:03.280 3770k and I I kind of had the same I kind of had the same feeling here where 01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:07.159 the this was the triple GPU gaming CPU so they're saying um or yeah they're 01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:13.639 saying 4770k I'm not really convinced wait Tri 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:18.960 okay and then for Quad GPU they say 3770k with the plx board because they 01:19:17.040 --> 01:19:24.360 haven't had much experience with Z87 boards with plx chipset but I mean still 01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:27.199 I'm not convinced that a hyperthreaded CP 01:19:25.320 --> 01:19:33.840 makes any kind of an impact because you have more gpus um no we've had great great results 01:19:32.280 --> 01:19:37.880 with non hyper threaded CPUs with multiple card we don't test multiple 01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:43.560 graphics cards that much which is possibly part of that because neither of 01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:46.159 us like them yeah well it's not so much 01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:49.320 a like or dislike thing it's just uh it's it's so few people that are 01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:54.199 actually running these three-way and fourway setups and with uh frame rating 01:19:52.239 --> 01:20:00.000 and all that other stuff going around but on It's relatively not a problem 01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:02.320 true um I mean and I've run SLI setups 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:05.560 many times for all of my preaching about single G that's another thing for all 01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:09.679 the preaching I do about no TOA fans and single GPU setups I'm running yed wings 01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:14.600 and Silverstone air penetrators which are both good fans too by the way and 01:20:11.679 --> 01:20:25.199 I'm running a 590 and okay and I ran 7900 GT SLI and I ran 7950 GT SLI and I 01:20:20.040 --> 01:20:26.000 ran GTX 260 SLI and I ran 8800 GTS 320 01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:33.679 gig SLI and I ran no I think that was it I I my 01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:37.719 buddy Harrison wanted a super super super high performance rig and ended up 01:20:36.040 --> 01:20:40.800 getting him to get two 660 Ti power editions the original ones when you 01:20:39.400 --> 01:20:45.239 could overclock them like crazy that was a great card and like that was a crazy 01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:49.760 card and he esed them and they're crazy powerful sometimes it makes a ton of 01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:55.560 sense yeah so anyway saying like usually we don't check out the Anon Tech article 01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:57.080 thank you to uh to s ual for submitting 01:20:55.560 --> 01:21:00.679 that article on the Forum in the news section guys don't forget if you submit 01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:04.159 news items in the Forum there is a chance we will feature you on the live 01:21:02.120 --> 01:21:07.480 stream which uh we don't it doesn't entitle you to any money but that 01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:10.400 basically means you're like the rest of the lonus Media Group 01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:20.800 employees that YouTube money 01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:22.719 right uh NVIDIA licenses out Kepler 01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:26.920 architecture and future GPU architectures uh submitted by good this 01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:32.120 is also an article on Anon and I'm not going to wax on about how Anon is 01:21:28.679 --> 01:21:33.760 awesome and I read it every day um if 01:21:32.120 --> 01:21:36.840 that's a preview that's a preview of the interview with the net not only do I 01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:41.719 read it every day but I've been reading it every day for years like I brought up 01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:44.159 stuff in the interview he'd be like yeah something something something I'd be 01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:48.560 like yeah kind of like in that article where you said this and he's just like 01:21:46.440 --> 01:21:52.440 how do you possibly you really have been reading me for a long time like yeah 01:21:50.120 --> 01:21:56.280 I've read everything you've ever written um we should relase that 01:21:54.600 --> 01:22:01.199 interview yeah I probably should I was like yeah and you went through that phase where you were only interested in 01:21:59.280 --> 01:22:05.120 like home theater crap for a while and he was like yeah I 01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:08.679 did I was like yeah it was hard to keep reading your articles at that time 01:22:06.679 --> 01:22:11.560 because home theater is so far behind in Canada because none of the providers 01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:17.760 okay I'm not going to talk about a non Tech anymore um so moving on so this to 01:22:15.120 --> 01:22:22.320 me is bizarre so they'll be licensing out their architecture in much the same 01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:29.239 way that ARM does for its ARM architecture processors 01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:31.159 what the devil does this mean go I I 01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:38.159 haven't read enough into it it's just nuts like so are is there potential that 01:22:35.320 --> 01:22:42.560 we could see an Intel you know I don't know 01:22:39.480 --> 01:22:45.239 trollbridge CPU at some point with an 01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:47.800 NVIDIA GeForce GPU in it troll bridge yes and this is where I think CU I'm 01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:52.520 kind of trolling because I don't think Intel's going to do it but but it could 01:22:50.120 --> 01:22:57.040 could we see someone else could as well and you look at like does this work 01:22:54.719 --> 01:23:03.199 against what NVIDIA is trying to do with Tegra it feels like it is are they 01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:07.040 shifting strategy here are they giving up on Tegra where they designed their 01:23:05.320 --> 01:23:12.560 own complete chip but on the other hand they acquired all those Wireless patents 01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:14.040 so so are they are they trying to own 01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:17.880 are they trying to spread into the ecosystem are they hedging their bets 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:22.639 are they going we're still committed to Tegra we still believe according to the 01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:27.120 code names of teger CPUs that they are basically our superhero product 01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:33.760 but are they trying to make it so that there's a possibility that a Samsung or 01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:36.440 Apple on the down low would put GeForce 01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:40.159 inside because we can all agree that Tegra 01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:43.840 Graphics have a lot of potential and they can basically compete with 01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:47.320 themselves at this point yes which is interesting because if they're competing 01:23:45.280 --> 01:23:54.440 with themselves they're still getting sales on both sides yes which is really 01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:56.080 really good like really really good it 01:23:54.440 --> 01:24:00.400 it opens the doors to a ton of stuff it could burst money into them which is 01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:03.400 also another thing yeah it could be a really really good Financial depending 01:24:01.719 --> 01:24:08.480 how the licensing depending on licing works all that kind of stuff who actually buys it we don't know right now 01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:13.320 like it could be amazing it could not be amazing I mean it's interesting that is 01:24:10.679 --> 01:24:17.400 just like Bizarro land to me it's weird because they've always been so closed 01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:22.600 doors I mean if they're talking about you know having licensing partners for 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:24.520 the GPU Tech I mean at that point you're 01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:30.560 going to have to start sharing GPU technology before release they have 01:24:27.120 --> 01:24:32.360 always been like nope like I have a 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:38.040 feeling that you could get killed at NVIDIA for like releasing I mean okay if 01:24:36.120 --> 01:24:43.199 Jensen's watching I know you wouldn't kill anybody I I met him once he's super 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:48.000 cool um but 01:24:45.360 --> 01:24:51.199 yeah still though that's they've always been 01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:56.159 hardcore this is our technology you don't mess with it and uh I don't know 01:24:54.119 --> 01:25:00.280 this is just uh this is this is so bizarre I mean would they would they 01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:05.040 would they license it to AMD if they wanted to that's one thing I was just 01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:07.880 thinking but I don't think so because at that point like you just said they'd 01:25:06.320 --> 01:25:12.800 have to release stuff before the release and I don't think AMD would actually 01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:16.600 want it I think they take a lot of pride in what they've done with Radeon over 01:25:14.639 --> 01:25:19.560 the last little while and they are take like if you look at the architectures 01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:25.679 they're really different yes they're very very different gravis cards but they're really different and you look at 01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:28.080 I mean AMD in some ways yeah is is as 01:25:25.679 --> 01:25:31.840 ahead of the curve as they've ever been in terms of the tech do they have a 01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:37.119 competitor for Titan no but that was never their strategy no 01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:41.440 not in the not since they did 3870 has that been their strategy the 01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:46.800 highend is meant to be addressed by two dual by a dual GPU card um so so yeah so 01:25:45.280 --> 01:25:51.520 there so there's that you look at how far ahead they are on in terms of open C 01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:55.560 Al performance which is going to be much very relevant moving forward that's 01:25:53.040 --> 01:26:00.400 going to be a big deal and it feels like I mean particularly with Adobe moving to 01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:05.000 opencl it feels like that battle is going to be 01:26:02.320 --> 01:26:10.880 interesting open SE versus Cuda uh you look at how competitive six uh 7,000 01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:16.360 series still is even though it launched before this is something a lot of people 01:26:12.400 --> 01:26:17.840 forget 7,000 series is old people ask me 01:26:16.360 --> 01:26:21.440 all the time lonus why don't you ever do any coverage of AMD gpus well because 01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:26.600 they haven't freaking released anything in a long time because 7,000 series was 01:26:24.360 --> 01:26:30.960 before 600 series and NVIDIA is refreshing to 700 series already and 01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:36.040 they didn't get us to 7990 and and they didn't get but we have one now the 01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:38.159 unboxing is shot and it'll be up soon so 01:26:36.040 --> 01:26:43.080 there you go so that means I get to and we got a 7790 finally uh I don't know if 01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:47.159 there's any point in US benchmarking it because we don't have a frame rating 01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:52.719 setup right I don't know so we'll we'll we'll we'll discuss internally and see 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:54.840 what we think makes sense but 01:26:52.719 --> 01:26:57.960 um yeah I mean they're they're really ahead they're really advanced in in a 01:26:56.400 --> 01:27:04.480 way that and I think it would be a pride thing I don't think AMD would want to 01:27:00.400 --> 01:27:06.480 take you know yeah help from the Green 01:27:04.480 --> 01:27:10.600 Team then again I'm you know I'm not going to speak for amds be interesting 01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:15.880 Technologies at the same time like they're trying to get um oh man why 01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:20.719 can't I remember the name of it right now dress effects yeah the hair thing 01:27:18.440 --> 01:27:25.679 yep they might be able to pull in help by getting some of the Technologies from 01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:27.320 physic okay so I don't again pride thing 01:27:25.679 --> 01:27:30.960 which is honestly as a company I wouldn't want to be like hey we want to 01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:35.000 like figure out yeah we're going to start you know pushing physx yeah that 01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:41.080 doesn't seem like the right move and I don't think they'll do it I just can't imagine AMD putting anything green on 01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:44.159 their box yeah no they even moved away 01:27:41.080 --> 01:27:46.119 from it on the AMD CPU side like nope 01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:50.639 nope our performance stuff is all red yeah done 01:27:48.080 --> 01:27:56.040 yeah um how are the angel bird internal ssds any good they're sand Force ssds so 01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:58.960 they couldn't be bad so far just based 01:27:56.040 --> 01:28:02.639 on the sort of fit and finish of this I would say their attention to detail and 01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:07.320 quality is outstanding and it's been doing great we've actually used it a lot 01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:12.040 using it all day today um please do a guide on the tea balancer yeah I know 01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:14.119 it's for like seven people that need one 01:28:12.040 --> 01:28:16.440 um other than mice causing pregnancy oh shoot you guys can't see Twitter right 01:28:15.400 --> 01:28:21.080 now I'm sorry uh let's lus let's just say your 01:28:19.080 --> 01:28:26.719 personal rig is full of things that you take risks on dayto day yes I do 01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:30.080 what what do you think about Omni and the Elder Scrolls guy working together 01:28:28.400 --> 01:28:34.199 to make okay what do you think about Omni and Elder Scrolls would you play 01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:38.560 Elder Scrolls with an omni uh if I want to become a marathon runner true that 01:28:36.440 --> 01:28:43.040 okay fast travel I guess yeah but I okay I don't want to 01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:46.800 get into this I'll talk for too long Ivy Bridge uses a very cheap thermal 01:28:44.440 --> 01:28:50.159 solution under the IHS 2500k is great good for you but you can't buy one 01:28:48.080 --> 01:28:55.320 that's what we were talking about he he I think he I I think I saw that tweet 01:28:52.199 --> 01:28:57.960 too I have won at 5 years so he has one 01:28:55.320 --> 01:29:00.320 already he's not trying to buy one oh and you could technically buy them 01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:08.159 that's not really relevant from for a 2013 buyer guide though definitely not 01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:10.639 okay but do you think the Dell u31 is 01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:13.719 worth $1,400 depends what you're doing are you a professional user yeah are you 01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:17.400 a professional well yeah are you a professional user who can't quite afford 01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:17.400 an 01:29:19.440 --> 01:29:24.800 isoo super expensive I don't I've never even looked into it I know I've know 01:29:23.440 --> 01:29:28.880 more than one person that has that monitor because it's amazingly good yeah 01:29:26.679 --> 01:29:35.119 I know some graphic designers I bought a 2405 fpw back in the day I picked one up 01:29:31.719 --> 01:29:36.880 used for 750 or 800 bucks like that was 01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:41.639 the most expensive monitor I've ever bought even my 30 in I only spent around 01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:47.199 650 bucks on it um Dell monitors are outstanding that 2405 fpw that's an 05 01:29:45.360 --> 01:29:50.960 model is still running and it's starting to fade it's 01:29:49.679 --> 01:29:55.000 been fading for about a year but it's still on my wife's desk so I believe in 01:29:53.280 --> 01:29:58.639 Dell monitors I'll just put really really really good it's my personal 01:29:56.280 --> 01:30:02.960 experience best CPU for 3D rendering and rendering in general I have a six core 01:30:00.639 --> 01:30:06.960 1090t I mean 3930k is what I would 01:30:05.320 --> 01:30:12.280 go um I think I accidentally scrolled up or 01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:15.880 something most embarrassing moment at computex was it all the booth babes 01:30:14.360 --> 01:30:22.080 trying to take pictures with you yeah probably that's weird never happened to 01:30:18.360 --> 01:30:24.400 me so I guess uh I guess we didn't even 01:30:22.080 --> 01:30:30.000 release the video of the best one oh really oh that no it got lost oh did it 01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:32.000 yeah it glitched out I pulled the USB 01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:38.679 drive out of the computer without safely removing and the file oh that one was 01:30:35.400 --> 01:30:40.600 the best one oh Boll was like choked so 01:30:38.679 --> 01:30:46.760 choked he was like I wanted that to I know I'm sorry 01:30:44.320 --> 01:30:50.040 it was my bad it was my bad well I don't safely remove flash lives either so I I 01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:54.880 can't be that mad you could have EAS you could have just as easily done it but Boll was mad yeah cuz he does and he 01:30:53.679 --> 01:31:00.080 does do we don't have time we're just like ah 01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:03.840 let's go go go the files are of lesser importance than getting this USB drive 01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:07.440 out as quickly as we can I CL yeah that's broken that's like definitely 01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:11.360 broken oh okay well we tried to go to this link but uh here you go guys China 01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:16.639 now has the world's fastest supercomputer by a long fraking shot 01:31:14.040 --> 01:31:19.600 Titan has been surpassed so NVIDIA is going to have to redo all of their 01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:23.480 marketing around the world's fastest supercomputer and the Titan GPU I mean 01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:27.400 it was the world's fastest supercomputer and that whole thing is just a Leap Frog 01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:32.119 race oh yeah insanely fast too and Titan's still fast don't worry and I 01:31:29.400 --> 01:31:35.360 mean China's approach was to throw what was it like something like a million 01:31:33.400 --> 01:31:40.560 plus CPUs at the problem trying they built their own interconnect to 01:31:37.360 --> 01:31:43.080 communicate from like node to node and 01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:49.639 the thing is fraking beast and it's basically part of China's initiative to 01:31:46.440 --> 01:31:52.199 be to to to have their own it resources 01:31:49.639 --> 01:31:56.719 that are just freaking boss because when China decides to do something and like 01:31:54.560 --> 01:32:01.159 do it hardcore like look at the Beijing Olympics everything about it was like 01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:05.719 awesome like I honestly living in Vancouver I just felt embarrassed by 01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:09.560 things like our Opening Ceremonies compared to the Beijing one just like 01:32:08.040 --> 01:32:14.239 everything was embarrassing compared to just China is hardcore uh so blah blah 01:32:12.400 --> 01:32:21.840 blah they you so they're not using their own CPUs although there 01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:24.719 are so yeah this is so super so Titan is 01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:31.719 just over half of the power of the new uh whatever it's called Ti and not power 01:32:28.320 --> 01:32:35.320 draw yeah no uh Power in terms of like 01:32:31.719 --> 01:32:38.159 ra yeah yeah um Gun Show time so also 01:32:35.320 --> 01:32:45.159 known as Milky Way 2 consists of 16,000 nodes inside each node two Intel xon 01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:51.239 ivybridge processors and three Intel xon five processors run the show adding up 01:32:47.719 --> 01:32:53.960 to a total of 3.12 million Computing 01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:57.800 cores okay then the machine is is scheduled to be fully operational by the 01:32:55.440 --> 01:33:00.920 end of this year something something something so most of the features of the 01:32:59.320 --> 01:33:05.639 system were developed in China they're using only Intel for the main compute 01:33:02.679 --> 01:33:11.040 part however the interconnect operating system frontend processors and software 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:12.400 are mainly Chinese very interesting and 01:33:11.040 --> 01:33:19.119 the Chinese are looking into making their own processors right yeah like 01:33:14.280 --> 01:33:22.000 like yep large large scale in fact there 01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:25.159 are something where are they something something something something something 01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:30.159 ah can't find it I think there are some Chinese processors in there that they're 01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:32.280 not even factoring into the power of it 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:36.760 from it's like a top 500 supercomputer perspective and it's more specialized 01:33:34.040 --> 01:33:41.239 for like weather weather predictions or something I pretty sure I read that 01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:44.159 anyway this could be a slightly I think I clicked on another link within the 01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:48.960 article and I I kind of kept reading about it cuz I was interested in it but 01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:52.639 uh There You Go China dominant in terms of world's fastest but I think the US 01:33:50.719 --> 01:33:57.639 still has something ludicrous like 200 of the top 500 super computers and China 01:33:54.719 --> 01:34:02.239 has like 70 or something like that so it's still it's still the US uh the US 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:05.440 show in terms of supercomputing and let's do build of the week and then I 01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:09.639 think we're pretty much going to do another Twitter Blitz and wrap this up 01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:14.600 folks build of the week is a you're up uh oh okay I did a PowerPoint for it oh 01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:19.280 where is it this works it's in the Google Drive all right Google Drive oh 01:34:17.400 --> 01:34:24.320 you're showing the Google Das whatever um uh what's it called uh today's try 01:34:22.199 --> 01:34:30.400 today's date with dashes today date with dashes are you what are you hi what 01:34:26.639 --> 01:34:34.920 didn't mean type in today 6-21 01:34:30.400 --> 01:34:36.679 sl23 really oh really yeah and it's 01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:41.280 going to look like and your naming thing for the file earlier I was like yeah 01:34:39.440 --> 01:34:46.480 three numbers that's perfect all right so here we go wow did we see this I saw 01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:50.760 that we saw this yeah I saw this at compex yeah and it's in it's in a video 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:54.840 that we did of the ECS Booth is this on her form this is she posted it on her 01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:58.800 her to while she was there because there was the five mod men competition right 01:34:56.960 --> 01:35:01.560 she was the only one actively standing by her computer and actively talking 01:35:00.639 --> 01:35:06.280 about her computer so I was like you should post this on her Forum you'll get tons of traffic she ended up winning a 01:35:04.480 --> 01:35:11.440 Community Choice Award cool which is awesome and I think largely driven by 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:14.679 our fans because it in our video and that's really really cool the power 01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:21.280 suppies is in the bottom it's all she's a gold and silver smith oh is it silver 01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:24.600 it's no it's aluminum oh okay um but like she has the tools to do that kind 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:28.119 of stuff what's oh that's the other build of the week okay so uh where do 01:35:26.639 --> 01:35:31.320 they go to get the links for build of the week the links for this will be in 01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:36.960 I'll tweet them out right now they will be in a form topic on the top of build 01:35:34.280 --> 01:35:40.639 logs um made by windspeed 36 so you'll be able to find these later on um he 01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:45.159 will add them there and I'll tweet these out but they're both totally awesome 01:35:42.440 --> 01:35:48.320 this one is user fat you can find her on the Forum you can check the build doogs 01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:55.880 thread she's still I think page one or two and that thing is very very very 01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:58.800 cool all right next up this is user rjf 01:35:55.880 --> 01:36:03.440 049 with okay then the most creative name I've ever seen and it's on a test 01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:07.880 bench but it's really interesting I really really suggest checking out the 01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:10.280 thread because while this is the most um 01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:13.040 like pulled out video uh picture I could see that really showed the whole build 01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:17.840 you should really really see the closer up pictures because he's got really nice look at that individually sleeved 01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:24.760 cabling it's like perfect super nice sleeving um and he sleeved his tubes oh 01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:30.239 it really good looks it looks really really good the test bench is way too 01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:33.199 big I see that it's way too big and it's 01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:40.400 a lot bigger that's an hptx uh it's one of the uh ah what am I not cool it um um 01:36:37.719 --> 01:36:44.719 deusch no no they do like pots or whatever the fit thing oh phobia phobia 01:36:43.080 --> 01:36:52.000 it's a phobia test bench and it's absolutely massive and I mean how many 01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:54.520 slots do this 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 like 01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:58.119 is that 11 what kind of board does this okay anyway whatever you want but it's a 01:36:56.719 --> 01:37:04.239 really really cool build I've said really really a ton you do say about a 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:06.199 ton I do I fall back on if I say really 01:37:04.239 --> 01:37:10.040 really or very very it buys me time so I can figure out what I'm going to say 01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:15.080 next look how dark we are now yeah cuz it's dimming outside yeah um anyway guys 01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:19.159 check out the builds of the week they're awesome as usual we will be back oh no I 01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:23.199 said we would do a Twitter Blitz okay guys Twitter Blitz time slick thoughts 01:37:22.080 --> 01:37:28.080 on Elder schools online coming to consoles no we're not talking about 01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:30.800 that um if you want to talk about that we'll talk about that later in some 01:37:29.360 --> 01:37:36.400 medium either message me on the forarm or start a thread or something I'll show up my PC and everything in it is four5 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:41.400 years old is it worth upgrading over time save for a new build do that thing 01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:46.480 save for a new build it is pretty much always uh a better choice will you 01:37:44.440 --> 01:37:53.800 autograph my side panel if I send it to you that's not really a service we 01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:55.280 offer um honestly I think you'll be Amed 01:37:53.800 --> 01:38:01.560 at how expensive it is to I shipped a motherboard to Australia today and it 01:37:57.800 --> 01:38:03.080 was $90 and that was going through 01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:08.520 through the shipping rates that are available at NC I called in a favor 01:38:06.360 --> 01:38:12.639 which is not how much it would have cost if we went normally yeah it was like 250 01:38:10.320 --> 01:38:20.920 bucks FedEx quoted us yeah uh should I get an h8i or an h100i get an h100i 01:38:16.080 --> 01:38:24.480 Haswell e x99 LGA 20113 any news not 01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:26.800 really I mean Ivy bridy isn't out yet 01:38:24.480 --> 01:38:31.920 so what's up with the PS4 saying it will have ddr5 RAM it has gddr5 RAM and it 01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:35.000 shares that Graphics memory which the main differences between Graphics memory 01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:39.159 and system memory are that it's higher latency and typically higher clock 01:38:36.599 --> 01:38:42.199 speeds um it's going to share that as system memory this is something we've 01:38:40.480 --> 01:38:46.360 never seen before and everyone is very interested to see how that goes yeah are 01:38:44.320 --> 01:38:51.480 closed loop water cools generally loud no but the h60 if you want to overclock 01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:56.199 could potentially be get an h100i or an h110 if you want something really quiet 01:38:53.480 --> 01:39:02.920 to do a few uh should I push pull a heat sink with two different fans 01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:04.599 no compression lost lossy lossless 01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:10.920 versus uncompressed files in terms of video audio photos uh uncompressed as 01:39:07.679 --> 01:39:13.239 far as I know is I'm not really sure 01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:18.719 what the question is yeah okay moving on um are we I think so we haven't finished 01:39:15.679 --> 01:39:20.239 yet we're close okay okay okay is there 01:39:18.719 --> 01:39:27.639 going to be an yes H h100i if you can fit an h100i do 01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:30.800 an h100i anything new on NVIDIA Shadow play not that I've heard I'm excited 01:39:29.679 --> 01:39:36.480 yeah they're still saying it's coming in the summer sometime yeah super 01:39:33.360 --> 01:39:38.440 excited uh presumably Seagate or Western 01:39:36.480 --> 01:39:41.040 Digital yeah yeah they probably have a really good deal 01:39:41.119 --> 01:39:47.719 actually is the Haswell on the same line as in's extreme Edition they are using 01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:52.440 different processor architectures um and they are they have 01:39:50.480 --> 01:39:57.400 a different number of cores and they're on different plat forms um performance 01:39:55.760 --> 01:40:01.719 however is pretty similar particularly for gaming not for things like 3D 01:39:59.239 --> 01:40:05.599 rendering or more professional work pros and cons of upgrading to a 120 HZ 01:40:03.480 --> 01:40:11.040 monitor specifically I'm a gamer go do you want like H are you going for 3D 01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:14.520 like um this kind of a question I would throw this on the Forum because you can 01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:17.599 get a lot more in depth than what we're going to get it to now we need to know 01:40:16.080 --> 01:40:20.560 more of what you're doing like yes you're a gamer but we need to know like 01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:24.960 what games what you want to do with it all that kind of stuff so I would recommend posting on the for Will and 01:40:23.080 --> 01:40:28.719 can do a build video for around a 3,000 we aren't really planning on that right 01:40:26.360 --> 01:40:32.119 now but I do have a call with Intel this coming week where we're going to discuss 01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:36.960 what we're doing for our next Intel sponsored build 01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:41.480 guide you can buy new ones apparently on 01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:44.880 Amazon cool okay it's 230 bucks though 01:40:41.480 --> 01:40:46.840 yeah that's not even a good deal no okay 01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:53.400 I'm making an 8 SSD rate array should I set up a RAM dis probably not I mean you 01:40:50.119 --> 01:40:54.679 can use um fancy cash 01:40:53.400 --> 01:40:58.320 but I think it's still in beta or something like it's one of those things 01:40:56.520 --> 01:41:00.800 where yeah sure go for it I do it but I still wouldn't recommend it all that 01:40:59.639 --> 01:41:05.440 stuff is a little bit sketch right now but it's fun so whatever you want to do 01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:08.599 well with the new consoles how much of the8 core CPU label will translate into 01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:14.960 performance and how much is Just marketing speak I think we'll see when it comes 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:19.199 out it depends on how optimized the games are for multicore yeah because 01:41:16.840 --> 01:41:24.480 these are not powerful cores nope but people are going to be they optimize 01:41:21.599 --> 01:41:29.599 like crazy for console y I remember when um jumping back to this when they were 01:41:26.400 --> 01:41:31.520 making mowind they had to move the data 01:41:29.599 --> 01:41:39.440 that was going to be read more closer in the disc so it can be R 01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:41.520 faster excuse me ah sorry will you do a 01:41:39.440 --> 01:41:45.080 review of the h630 Yeah we actually have one sitting downstairs we just haven't 01:41:43.080 --> 01:41:53.320 gotten around to it yet good morning from Israel hello hello good 01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:58.400 morning do you recommend 2 670s or 01:41:53.320 --> 01:41:59.920 single 770 780 go 780 okay agreed what 01:41:58.400 --> 01:42:04.960 would you recommend for a sad with decent storage and good speed well I'd recommend you watch us on your computer 01:42:03.040 --> 01:42:09.960 and not on your phone for one thing if you want to type correctly uh just uh 01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:15.719 SSD with good storage in good speed I don't know anything from Samsung Intel 01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:19.800 crucial um quite frankly the new Neutron GTX from Corsair is getting Ray reviews 01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:23.280 these days there's a lot of really solid stuff right now and it's not moving 01:42:21.400 --> 01:42:27.639 super quickly right now seates new stuff is outstanding I mean you look at how 01:42:25.280 --> 01:42:32.000 much it's slowed down San Force SATA 3 is 01:42:28.400 --> 01:42:35.480 still very relevant very competitive um 01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:37.560 so yeah DDR3 ddr5 in the PS4 we already 01:42:35.480 --> 01:42:43.000 talked about this gaming monitor 3x 23 in or 21 by9 27 in both are IPS 5 01:42:41.480 --> 01:42:50.199 millisecond response time and both Solutions are around 600 bucks go so 01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:53.560 wait is he doing 127 in or 3 1 21 by9 01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:55.760 super widescreen 27 in or 32 3-in 01:42:53.560 --> 01:43:01.560 monitors in surround remember we saw one today the 01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:04.800 uh the Alienware one yeah I don't like 01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:06.400 that personally you'd I would really 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:11.560 recommend trying to go to a store where you can see it in person I find it is 01:43:08.639 --> 01:43:14.480 very flat whereas to be an equal distance away from the monitor you 01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:19.320 almost bit curvature you almost need some curvature there we've seen some kind of stuff like that from I don't 01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:22.599 remember who but they made this giant curve monitor which was realistically 01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:26.400 three monitors right blah blah blah blah blah my friend needs to format a sparrow 01:43:24.800 --> 01:43:31.080 s drive and Windows just won't let him format it any tools to format it um yeah 01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:36.920 Fisk within Windows you can actually force it so uh lus oh already got that 01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:41.800 one already got that one a few times I think can you recommend the Silverstone 01:43:39.199 --> 01:43:47.080 ps07 or another less than greater than seven or another greater than $70 us 01:43:44.719 --> 01:43:51.440 case make an ultimate silence build with KN to1 T balancer you know what I'm not 01:43:49.360 --> 01:43:56.480 that familiar with the ps07 unfortunately so I'm I'm 01:43:54.199 --> 01:44:01.840 sorry uh what does okay we already talked about that already talked about 01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:05.000 that ASUS bamboo really he asked me what 01:44:01.840 --> 01:44:07.639 laptop I had oh 01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:14.440 okay suggesting okay well I think that's pretty much it thank you everyone and 01:44:11.400 --> 01:44:16.040 good night well what we're going to do 01:44:14.440 --> 01:44:21.800 well good night for now until after party which um I don't know how long 01:44:19.719 --> 01:44:28.040 we'll be able to go tonight it's already 7:30 and we kind of have stuff to go do 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:32.080 wow yeah okay maybe we'll just we showed up really late and we went for two hours 01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:40.639 I think we went for two hours I think so oh okay okay well thank you everyone and 01:44:37.520 --> 01:44:43.679 good night for real this time good night 01:44:40.639 --> 01:44:43.679 thanks for watching