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this is lg's flagship tv the absolutely

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stunning z10 OLED and it costs 30 000 us

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dollars but why is it so expensive

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it's not just because it's 8k that doesn't account for it it's not because

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it's OLED either it's not even just that it's 88 inches diagonally it's because

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it's all of these things at once

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so let's play a game let's pretend you're in the market for a unicorn tv

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like this one and you've stacked up enough bengies to afford it is it

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amazing enough to pull the trigger or should you just wait for something

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the lg z10 is available in two sizes but they're not identical products the

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twenty thousand dollar seventy seven inch value offering sits on minimalistic

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metal feet or on the wall via the vase amount but that is not the case with the

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88 inch it has no wall mounts and must

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be sat on this 137 pound stand so

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i hope it either matches the stuff you already have or you have deep enough

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pockets to just go buy new stuff to go with your new tv anecdotally i do know

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of some companies that have successfully wall mounted this monstrosity but it

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required some custom metal work and ripping out the power cables that lg has

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routed through the stand so you would have to be prepared for that it also

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means that the tv's forward firing integrated speakers will be shooting

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downwards since lg relies on this dinky reflector to make their 80 watt 4.2

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channel audio solutions sound its best losing that is a real deal breaker

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i'm kidding although the built-in speakers actually

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sound okay for flat screen tv please for the

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love of all that is holy do not spend 30

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000 on this thing and then not use real speakers

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please on that subject let's talk about the

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kind of room this tv makes sense in for most netflix and chillers 88 inches is

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a pretty punkin big tv but for the home theater crowd it's

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actually on the small side that market typically uses long throw projectors to

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get screen sizes of 120 130 even up to

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150 inches of course it's not really about the physical size of the image but

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rather about how much of your field of view that the image occupies from your

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seat which is why it's perfectly acceptable for a cinematic experience to

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just put your phone right here i was kidding about that too

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now most regular people tend to be comfortable with about a 30 degree

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viewing angle but in a home theater you want more like 40 to 46 degrees occupied

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by the screen for better immersiveness that would put your main viewing

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position less than nine feet away from the z1088

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that's pretty reasonable but if that were the case i probably

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wouldn't want to be in the second row of seats that's often recommended to be

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about six feet behind the front rows so people can recline without feeling uncle

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beau's breath on their neck

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although i did hear they have great water bottles unfortunately that second

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row seat nets you a field of view that's smaller than thx's bare minimum

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recommended figure of 26 degrees so why

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then would anyone spend thirty thousand dollars on an OLED tv when they could

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get a high-end projector and a fantastic screen

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not to mention some comfortable seating for half the price well a big part of

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the answer has to do with light control oleds are well known for their amazing

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blacks not only is it impossible for projectors to equal the black levels of

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an OLED they can't even approach them unless you have complete light control

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in your theater room this means you need a windowless or perfectly draped room

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and even the walls and ceiling of the room need to be painted as close to

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black as your spousal unit will allow so that the light from the brightest parts

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of the image doesn't reflect around the room and wash out the darker parts

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and while the z10 isn't as bright as some lcds it is bright enough to use all

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day long even in a white-walled sun-drenched room while also having

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unrivaled picture quality but forgive us for this video not feeling as

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much like a review as you might expect the fact is that there's just not much

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for us to say because the OLED panel in the z10 is very similar to what we've

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seen in all lgo leds going back to at least 2017 just bigger brighter and of

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course 8k now you might initially dismiss the

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8knis as a non-feature given that there's no ak movies or tv to watch i

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mean heck even the olympics which were going to be broadcast in 8k well at

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least in japan have been postponed making a huge part of this tv's cost

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basically a deferred investment into the future but that's not completely the

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case for starters the z10 alpha 9 gen 3

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processor claims to be able to upscale any content to 8k

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although i really wasn't able to see much difference and

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anyway more importantly gamers should note that the rtx 3090 is ak capable

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today and in my experience it's pretty sweet this is without a

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doubt the highest fidelity gaming i have ever experienced just bear in mind that

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i had to sit much closer to the screen than most

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people would to appreciate the difference in image sharpness and the

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capableness of even the fastest gaming system in the world is going to vary

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drastically from game to game doom eternal happens to be both

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beautiful and incredibly well optimized and of

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course you'll be able to run esports titles particularly the ones that

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support native 8k at 60 frames per second but anything

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other than that is going to be relying on upscaling tricks like NVIDIA's dlss

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just like your tv and movie content oh and of course i'd be remiss if i didn't

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mention AMD's new flagship graphics card the 6900xt

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it's not specifically marketed as being 8k capable but until we try it we won't

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know for sure so make sure you subscribe for that it's probably pretty hard for

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something to look outright bad on this tv we're just trying to say you need to

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manage your expectations for how consistently it's going to blow you out

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of your seat at least for the next couple of years or so while we wait for

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a new generation of graphics cards or for console developers to fully leverage

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the series x and the playstation 5's ability to output 8k of course if we do

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get aaa games at 8k they will probably be capped at 30 FPS and of course all of

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the z10's gaming features like variable refresh rate and auto low latency mode

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are enabled by its HDMI 2.1 ports of which it has four

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however beware they don't all have the same

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bandwidth capabilities or features only one of the ports is labeled e-arc

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that's normal but what's not labeled and not normal is that ports 1 and 2 support

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HDMI 2.1's full 48 gigabit per second

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bandwidth while ports 3 and 4

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only support 40 gigabit per second now that's still a lot it's the same as

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Thunderbolt 3 so you'll have no problem gaming on your new console at 4k 120

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hertz with dolby vision HDR enabled and no chroma sub sampling it's going to be

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glorious but it could be a limiting factor when you're gaming at 8k on the

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lower bandwidth ports you're going to be limited to 8k at 30 hertz which might be

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all that your GPU or console can push anyway but you'll also be limited to

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8-bit color which is less than ideal for the 10-bit panel lg's oleds use and less

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than the wide color gamut required for HDR alternatively you could do 8k 60

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with 420 sub sampling with all the fringing that that entails but at least

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at 10 bit on the 48 gigabit per second ports

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though you should be able to get 8k 60

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with no chroma sub sampling up to 12 bit

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if NVIDIA's testing is anything to go by that's pretty darn future proof right

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about now bear in mind though that at the time of writing you can't get this

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configuration working on any of the z10s ports until lg issues an upcoming

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firmware update that takes advantage of display stream compression which i'm

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told will be amazing and if their quick response to the g-sync issues on the

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rest of the z10 lineup is anything to go by makes me think that maybe lg is

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finally starting to clue into the importance of tv firmware support please

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keep it up you guys these shouldn't be like a one and done

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so then should you buy this tv well assuming

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that you're not shook by the price tag the z10 represents the absolute cutting

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edge in terms of picture quality feature set and size unless you want to spend at

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least five times more and get some kind of micro led installation but in terms

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of solutions that arrive to your house in a box this is about as easy as it

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gets you don't even have to calibrate it just set it to isf or filmmaker mode and

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you're done filmmaker mode in particular is fantastic because it automatically

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turns off motion interpolation and all of the advanced ai processing enabled by

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the display's alpha 9 gen 3 processor which

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as i mentioned already was nowhere near as good as the upscaling that NVIDIA's

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shield is capable of though it should be noted that the current gen shield can

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only upscale to 4k not to 8ks

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okay then how about if 30 grand is maybe manageable but you know like

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still closer to car money than lunch money then honestly i'd recommend buying

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several 77-inch gxo leds instead g10

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i hate this i hate it so much why did apple do this to the industry g10 oleds

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instead and put them all over my house because the z10's inflexible mounting

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and stand make it honestly more of an art piece than an actual tv and ak just

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isn't going to be that important that often until we get into screen sizes

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that are well more like projector screen sizes 150 inches

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in fact actually while you're at it you might as well just drop down to c10s

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because the only difference is the wall mount and the internal speakers which by

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the way you still shouldn't use anyway that'll give you more money to buy an

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NVIDIA shield since even the z10 still has a 100 megabit per second Ethernet

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connection because apparently nobody at lg has ever heard of streaming 4k

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blu-rays over plex as for the theater use case i think due

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to its small size those folks are probably going to pass over this in

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favor of continuing to roll their projectors that is unless of course they don't have

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the 8k gaming experience i actually mistakenly said that we had a z10 in

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that video it was actually a z9 but as far as we can tell

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it's the same damn thing