WEBVTT 00:00:00.420 --> 00:00:07.500 most seriously did they ever try this 00:00:05.279 --> 00:00:12.240 thing in the old days we could cram top of the line components into the tiniest 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:17.699 of cases and still managed to cool them but sadly 00:00:14.940 --> 00:00:22.980 that is no longer the case because the PC industry has gone utterly Bonkers to 00:00:20.699 --> 00:00:28.820 the point where you simply cannot fit a new GPU into a small form factor chassis 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:33.860 let alone cool it that is until now 00:00:28.820 --> 00:00:37.760 hailing from Japan this is the big ski 00:00:33.860 --> 00:00:41.219 1080 external cooler an absolutely 00:00:37.760 --> 00:00:45.180 massive radiator that goes beside your 00:00:41.219 --> 00:00:48.059 computer not inside it and Dick ski says 00:00:45.180 --> 00:00:53.700 that it can cool 2 000 Watts worth of computer which here here there we go 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:55.199 you know that we are going to be testing 00:00:53.700 --> 00:01:00.420 just like we're going to test your patience for my terrible Segways to our 00:00:57.539 --> 00:01:04.799 sponsor build Redux is building a PC not your wheelhouse no problem let the 00:01:02.760 --> 00:01:07.799 experts at build Redux help you out just pick the parts and they'll do all the 00:01:06.360 --> 00:01:12.420 hard work check them out at the link down below I'm not sure where I got the 00:01:10.380 --> 00:01:17.880 idea but I thought it would be smaller while I've never seen one like this 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:20.340 though the idea of an external water 00:01:17.880 --> 00:01:25.560 cooling system is nothing new and in fact back in the early 2000s external 00:01:22.979 --> 00:01:30.600 water coolers were more common than sticking radiators inside your case and 00:01:28.140 --> 00:01:35.340 most cases that had a water cooling capable sticker on the box simply had a 00:01:33.720 --> 00:01:39.479 couple of holes punched in the back with grommets that you could run tubes 00:01:37.320 --> 00:01:43.920 through by contrast modern cases are designed so that pretty much anywhere 00:01:41.340 --> 00:01:47.579 they leave space for a fan they also try to leave space for a radiator because 00:01:45.600 --> 00:01:51.299 well what else were they going to take up that room with three and a half inch 00:01:49.380 --> 00:01:56.759 hard drives so then you're probably asking yourself why in the modern era 00:01:54.720 --> 00:02:02.820 are we looking at an external water cooler and the answer is since NVIDIA's 00:02:00.180 --> 00:02:08.819 3000 Series we haven't really been able to pack the same tier of Hardware into 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:11.580 our small form factor PCS that amount of 00:02:08.819 --> 00:02:15.180 heat just I mean even if we could stick it in there isn't practical because even 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:21.660 if we can keep temperatures on under control it's going to be super loud like 00:02:18.060 --> 00:02:24.000 sure the water block on this RTX 4090 00:02:21.660 --> 00:02:29.160 does make it a lot smaller than it was out of the box but these things are so 00:02:26.580 --> 00:02:34.620 darn tall that in a lot of smaller cases it ends up interfering with the fans and 00:02:32.819 --> 00:02:38.280 I mean that's before we even stick a radiator on the things meaning it's 00:02:36.239 --> 00:02:43.739 basically impossible till you have one of these by using an 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:48.540 external cooler we can still have a nice compact PC sitting on our desk while the 00:02:47.040 --> 00:02:52.860 Heat and noise get chucked somewhere else so let's take a closer look at it 00:02:50.760 --> 00:02:58.160 bigski is one of those brands that I've heard of before but only in the context 00:02:55.500 --> 00:03:02.940 of super Cheapo budget stuff on AliExpress so I've never really had a 00:03:00.780 --> 00:03:07.620 reason or an opportunity to look more closely at their products overall though 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:11.819 I gotta say my first impressions are pretty good it's using what appears to 00:03:09.780 --> 00:03:16.800 be anodized aluminum pretty much anywhere it's got a very kind of 00:03:13.920 --> 00:03:21.239 industrial vibe to it but I like that function over form kind of design right 00:03:18.720 --> 00:03:25.680 like this Grille is going to keep your fingers out sure 00:03:23.580 --> 00:03:29.879 but it is not going to interfere with airflow around front I've got what seems 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:34.260 to be some kind of integrated flow distribution thing 00:03:31.860 --> 00:03:41.400 though it doesn't distribute water anywhere The Fill line in out and I 00:03:38.220 --> 00:03:43.019 guess this is presumably fill now you 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:47.340 were saying you wanted to do a leak test on it before we take it open 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:51.720 I don't think that sounds very exciting but I can also see where you're coming 00:03:48.720 --> 00:03:54.900 from so why don't we do that real quick 00:03:51.720 --> 00:03:57.120 for the uninitiated we are pressurizing 00:03:54.900 --> 00:04:03.299 the system because if air can get out then probably water can also get out 00:04:00.180 --> 00:04:06.080 this looks really expensive 00:04:03.299 --> 00:04:06.080 uh 00:04:07.019 --> 00:04:13.860 this has a very hand-built vibe to it doesn't it on the one hand obviously 00:04:11.700 --> 00:04:17.880 these are all mass-produced parts I think I'm looking at a DDC pump over 00:04:15.900 --> 00:04:22.919 here with a custom top that's integrated into this distribution plate we've got 00:04:20.280 --> 00:04:27.060 what appear to be just off the shelf vix key RGB controllers these are clearly 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:31.380 fans that are generally available outside of this system but the actual 00:04:29.460 --> 00:04:36.840 integration of all of these components looks very hand done and all of the 00:04:34.259 --> 00:04:41.220 individual parts of the enclosure are just either sheet aluminum or Extrusion 00:04:39.479 --> 00:04:47.820 meaning that it's probably a pretty low volume product it goes in here 00:04:44.100 --> 00:04:49.259 pumps out to here the bottom of the 00:04:47.820 --> 00:04:52.380 radiator right that makes sense for bleeding the air bubbles out you want to 00:04:50.940 --> 00:05:00.840 push the water into the bottom so that the air comes out the top that goes way 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:03.000 down to here and then up here and then 00:05:00.840 --> 00:05:07.500 out I feel like there could have been a more elegant way to do that 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:12.720 me too one thing I really like about the design is that this radiator is designed 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.699 with an extremely low density fin 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:18.840 structure what that means is that it should perform very well with low RPM 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:24.780 fans meaning I expect this to be extremely quiet we've got a simple 00:05:21.060 --> 00:05:26.460 adapter from 12 and 5 volt Molex so it 00:05:24.780 --> 00:05:32.220 appears they expect you to Simply run this inside your computer somehow to 00:05:29.220 --> 00:05:33.419 this four pin bad boy right here that 00:05:32.220 --> 00:05:38.100 screws on a little something like that it's great that they have this high 00:05:35.880 --> 00:05:41.699 security can't be accidentally unplugged connector here but if you were to trip 00:05:39.960 --> 00:05:46.380 over the cord nothing would prevent this from a pulling out and B yanking your 00:05:44.940 --> 00:05:51.000 computer off the desk my enthusiasm is a little dampened but 00:05:48.840 --> 00:05:54.919 if the performance is outstanding then I think I can get over it let's move on 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:03.120 nice now let's take a look at the challenges we ran into trying to build a 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:10.020 small form factor system with Modern Hardware will the 4090 fit this way 00:06:06.660 --> 00:06:13.320 no not only can we not fit a radiator up 00:06:10.020 --> 00:06:15.300 in the top we can't even fit fans and if 00:06:13.320 --> 00:06:19.680 we took the fans out of here and we just put fans on a radiator on the bottom 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:26.039 there is absolutely no way that that would handle the heat load of a 4090 and 00:06:22.139 --> 00:06:27.660 our CPU which I'm assuming is crap I 00:06:26.039 --> 00:06:33.360 don't actually know I think there's a spec list on here wait also on the 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:36.600 prompter bixke only accepts defects 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:40.280 within 10 days of delivery yep that's 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:43.139 cool a 10-day warranty anywho it's an I9 00:06:40.280 --> 00:06:48.360 13900k in here with a strix z690i motherboard an 8 terabyte sabric rocket 00:06:45.300 --> 00:06:51.479 PCIe Gen 4 Drive EK velocity 2 CPU and 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:53.580 GPU blocks and an 850 watt Silverstone 00:06:51.479 --> 00:06:57.720 modular power supply this is a top of the line rig and we're going to have 00:06:55.080 --> 00:07:01.800 links to all of these parts down below um Alex I guess we're good I guess we're 00:07:00.419 --> 00:07:06.660 gonna have to just remove these fans then yeah they cannot live okay see you 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:11.220 later fans GPU what the heck 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:16.319 I think how is it even gonna close with the fans removed Alex 00:07:13.139 --> 00:07:18.180 it's very close I see the power switch 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:22.860 has not really been working so we want to plug that in okay so first of all the 00:07:20.340 --> 00:07:26.819 motherboard things come on little uh little daughter Riser things so we're 00:07:25.259 --> 00:07:30.479 looking at that you know the external water cooling Paradigm might feel 00:07:28.919 --> 00:07:34.620 inelegant compared to what people do these days but it's actually kind of 00:07:32.940 --> 00:07:38.940 smart like yeah you have to pay extra for the chassis for it but that's a 00:07:37.259 --> 00:07:43.020 one-time thing and it's the sort of thing that no matter how many times you 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:48.120 change your CPU or GPU or your blocks here or even your case you can continue 00:07:45.300 --> 00:07:52.560 to use I can't say this makes me very comfortable do you see the angle this 00:07:49.740 --> 00:07:57.960 GPU is sitting at right now you can see the whole back of the chassis move oh 00:07:55.380 --> 00:08:04.199 wow we're just taking all that Flex from the back and putting it on the bottom 00:08:01.500 --> 00:08:11.580 uh okay you said we could put fans in there but uh I want art I see 00:08:08.520 --> 00:08:13.560 what really it'll look yeah I don't want 00:08:11.580 --> 00:08:16.500 to be responsible for this David what no hold on wait what are you doing you're 00:08:14.940 --> 00:08:19.340 just gonna oh my God 00:08:22.400 --> 00:08:28.500 thank you so much for allowing that pleasure 00:08:25.919 --> 00:08:32.580 this is optional but I would strongly recommend using quick disconnects with 00:08:30.599 --> 00:08:36.300 any kind of external water cooling system just because it means that moving 00:08:34.620 --> 00:08:40.940 the system around is going to be a lot easier 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.940 and you do it 00:08:40.979 --> 00:08:47.180 oh what seriously if we just Power It Up that might do it 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:55.200 we're just going to power it on and power pour the worst part is I was about 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.640 to suggest that too so oh no 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:59.120 oh and if the power button works now that would be cool 00:09:00.660 --> 00:09:07.140 you closed up the side panels without testing it yeah bad GBS 00:09:05.339 --> 00:09:11.399 okay how much you want to bet I can plug in that thing behind the GPU 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:14.940 I made the problem worse just just pull it out just pull it out I 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:17.360 think I pulled the daughter board out oh geez 00:09:20.700 --> 00:09:27.420 this is going to be very difficult yeah I think we might have to pull the GPS no 00:09:25.260 --> 00:09:31.920 no I got it I've got it oh it's probably turn on the power supply are you you're 00:09:30.180 --> 00:09:39.180 kidding me Alex okay oh oh geez okay oh shoot here 00:09:37.980 --> 00:09:44.220 you go just never turn it off again why is it 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:49.200 still spewing uh well remember how I was saying I didn't 00:09:46.680 --> 00:09:52.440 really understand their Reservoir design yeah 00:09:50.760 --> 00:09:59.540 I still don't this is very wet I have no water in the 00:09:55.019 --> 00:09:59.540 system sir what no water 00:10:00.839 --> 00:10:08.880 that pump sounds so unhappy I'm sorry pumpy I'm I'm trying 00:10:08.940 --> 00:10:14.940 we are not getting any water to the system yet yeah this thing's bone dry 00:10:12.839 --> 00:10:21.420 right now I'm working on it I can feel water on my sandals toe we're 00:10:19.019 --> 00:10:27.720 gonna try something bold we're gonna Crack A fitting 00:10:24.660 --> 00:10:29.160 oh there we go whoa whoa hey oh how you 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:35.640 doing hey your computer might get water soon okay so there's water making to the 00:10:31.500 --> 00:10:37.080 computer now I don't see any yet uh 00:10:35.640 --> 00:10:39.779 for how much they're charging for this thing I can't say I'm especially 00:10:38.700 --> 00:10:44.459 impressed oh the computer set off excellent 00:10:41.880 --> 00:10:49.200 oh crap uh 00:10:46.459 --> 00:10:51.800 okay the power button works uh 00:10:51.959 --> 00:10:57.620 okay I'm going I'm going 00:10:58.920 --> 00:11:05.760 it's for testing come on come on come on do we have water 00:11:03.899 --> 00:11:09.680 yeah water's in the GPU oh heck yeah yeah 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:16.079 it was going to be so much happier now Jacob needs more water look David I am 00:11:13.500 --> 00:11:22.920 working on the additional water oh it posted yes yeah yes we 00:11:19.980 --> 00:11:28.339 successfully computer build uh okay uh power down this actually seems to be 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:28.339 pretty effective 00:11:28.500 --> 00:11:36.959 where's all the water going 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:36.959 where is all the water going David okay 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:42.779 all right wait okay hit it again never mind 00:11:40.920 --> 00:11:45.920 did I lose more than I actually put in that time absolutely 00:11:46.140 --> 00:11:50.120 What on earth oh the babies 00:11:52.260 --> 00:12:00.000 oh seriously ah 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:01.980 all that progress unprogressed 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:05.880 I'm legitimately concerned we're going to kill this with how much water is 00:12:03.660 --> 00:12:10.200 going out of this and into all of the electronics it had it coming Alex 00:12:08.160 --> 00:12:15.779 you know it is a question that we used to find ourselves asking more than we do 00:12:12.180 --> 00:12:18.000 now but it still comes up did they ever 00:12:15.779 --> 00:12:22.260 try this thing and like your fill indicator will always be full 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:25.339 because the pumps pumping the water through it and out 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:29.779 thumb to kind of control the 00:12:29.820 --> 00:12:36.060 acid reflux this poor computer is suffering from 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:39.660 this deserve some babies too I'm changing the description of our channel 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:46.639 to we build bad computers so you don't have to wait are you stuffing babies in 00:12:42.660 --> 00:12:50.339 there why are you doing that 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:52.380 I want to get one in the fan no or I can 00:12:50.339 --> 00:12:57.720 just oh no you can't do that okay recently I 00:12:56.100 --> 00:13:03.899 said there's no such thing as a bad product just a bad price 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.820 I attend entirely corrected 00:13:03.899 --> 00:13:10.920 oh okay stop putting babies in the computer 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:15.300 okay we've got a bubble here but the trick is that we need to fill it 00:13:12.899 --> 00:13:20.820 like it's pretty clear that this is a do not buy big ski you aren't making a 00:13:18.180 --> 00:13:27.600 great first impression here I gotta say okay good now lower that and I'll get 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:30.660 this above you 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:32.040 come on bubbles 00:13:30.660 --> 00:13:36.060 that's working the issue that is that moving the 00:13:33.779 --> 00:13:40.440 bubbles around doesn't help us we have to get them replaced with water 00:13:38.700 --> 00:13:44.639 and we can't put more water into the system because there's no way to fill 00:13:42.300 --> 00:13:49.320 the reservoir directly this would take hours and hours and hours to fill a 00:13:48.300 --> 00:13:55.560 system fail big ski it's so freaking Loud 00:13:53.100 --> 00:14:01.740 meaning I expect this to be extremely quiet I am outraged that I spent this 00:13:59.940 --> 00:14:06.060 much money on this thing from a Content point of view I'm fine with it because 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:13.800 this is hilarious but if I bought this thing what is it 700 US dollars 00:14:08.899 --> 00:14:18.060 690. oh no I bet Alex and I could design 00:14:13.800 --> 00:14:20.519 a better this in like an afternoon yeah 00:14:18.060 --> 00:14:25.079 we would try it once and be like wow that was the worst water cooling 00:14:22.500 --> 00:14:29.940 experience we've had in uh weeks at least we wouldn't need to because we put 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:34.680 a Reservoir in the bloody thing so let's have a look at the flow path in here and 00:14:31.620 --> 00:14:36.839 figure out why this isn't working so 00:14:34.680 --> 00:14:43.019 here's where we're filling this goes into the reservoir right but you can see 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:45.240 see this this gluganation effect here I 00:14:43.019 --> 00:14:50.459 think the issue is that there's just there's not enough room for the air to 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:54.839 travel up this if this was like a big fat like three quarter inch tube or 00:14:53.220 --> 00:15:00.300 something like that it might be all right but this right angle fitting here 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:01.980 is absolutely killing it you can see 00:15:00.300 --> 00:15:06.120 here that even though the reservoir theoretically keeps bubbles from getting 00:15:04.560 --> 00:15:10.639 to the inlet of the pump right they should all rise to the top and then be 00:15:08.160 --> 00:15:16.440 replaced by this this fill here theoretically 00:15:12.380 --> 00:15:18.600 I see what's going on but in practice 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:22.980 it's not able to clear the bubbles from the impeller 00:15:19.920 --> 00:15:24.779 so it's creating this like pressure on 00:15:22.980 --> 00:15:30.660 the other side of the pump that then shoots this water back up the fill port 00:15:27.899 --> 00:15:34.860 also the inlet for the reservoir is so close to the inlet for the pump that it 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:39.660 actually sucks the bubbles even though they should float yeah should we try to 00:15:37.139 --> 00:15:46.320 fix their design yeah Alex got any stop fittings uh yes what's up time hi 00:15:43.459 --> 00:15:50.699 don't worry what we're doing is fine I've seen worse although the babies are 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:53.820 marginally concerning uh where does this go it goes where tynan's finger is 00:15:52.620 --> 00:15:56.779 because there's nothing going to be in there yeah okay 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:03.959 so you cut it like I'm thinking like 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:10.260 here okay don't cut my finger and then I'm 00:16:06.420 --> 00:16:12.260 gonna get in there immediately okay 00:16:10.260 --> 00:16:12.260 um 00:16:16.199 --> 00:16:24.360 this plate goes back there okay how's our CPU attempts doing Alex 79 degrees 00:16:21.660 --> 00:16:28.139 79 degrees okay wait for it I can fix that 00:16:26.100 --> 00:16:31.440 watch out for the baby no I'm not watching out for the baby they didn't 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:35.160 even put any Loctite on these stupid pass-throughs 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:39.180 so they just spin freely as you're trying to tighten things okay I'm 00:16:37.680 --> 00:16:45.720 powering up the pump okay so now 00:16:42.540 --> 00:16:47.060 our bubbles go to the filter go to the 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:52.920 fill Port you're welcome big ski the fact that 00:16:50.160 --> 00:16:57.480 that's what it took to fix their design that's not on us that's on them the 00:16:56.100 --> 00:17:01.500 reason I could think that they would use that is because I don't know if we're 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:05.160 going to be able to close this panel now that we've moved it to the right spot 00:17:02.940 --> 00:17:08.579 that's a really tight run there oh yeah we can't yeah oh yeah how are we how are 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:14.459 we doing does it work 31 degrees right now nice nice 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:19.199 also Alex your concerns about not having fan control 00:17:15.959 --> 00:17:21.600 very valid these are spinning at like 3 00:17:19.199 --> 00:17:25.020 000 RPM maybe more 00:17:23.459 --> 00:17:29.100 it looks like something we would have made no you take that back we would have 00:17:27.059 --> 00:17:34.740 made it better than this we're able to dispel 00:17:30.500 --> 00:17:36.960 313 Watts cool you can do that with a 00:17:34.740 --> 00:17:42.000 360 rad yeah almost 40K in cinemas it's pretty good 00:17:39.419 --> 00:17:45.960 yeah I mean it's gonna keep your water temps down near ambient once once you 00:17:44.940 --> 00:17:49.919 fill it it should work you just can't ever put 00:17:47.940 --> 00:17:54.960 it back together again just like this segue to our sponsor 00:17:52.100 --> 00:17:58.980 guardio guardio is a browser extension designed to help protect you as you 00:17:56.940 --> 00:18:02.460 browse online it seems everyone in their Grandma knows about LMG getting hacked 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:06.179 at this point the nature of the attack on us was done through something known 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expecting to use while we tested the 2000 watt capacity 00:19:24.419 --> 00:19:30.980 claims won't be needing that I wouldn't hook 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:30.980 that thing up to anything