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this PC is the same price as a PlayStation 5 and competes or in some

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cases even wins in just about every game

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we tested including some Sony first

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party titles but how is that even possible I mean gaming consoles dominate

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computers in price to Performance don't they well sometimes

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it's no secret that Sony and Microsoft are willing to sell their Hardware at a

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loss in order to lock walk you into their ecosystem of accessories

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subscription services and software all of which are sold for a profit over time

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then this chips away at your initial savings but even with that in mind I

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totally get why people go for it when this thing launched $500 barely got you

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a decent GPU let alone a complete gaming

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box of course there's no denying the power of the Sony exclusive machine no

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PC could ever hope to compete with that model

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at least not for the first couple of years but technology marches ever onward

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and with competition and the used Market heating up again it is finally possible

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to match the price and performance and

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budget of a PlayStation 5 with a gaming

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PC and ours is going to be powered by SE Sonic who sponsored this video Even

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though this is a secondhand power

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supply that'll make sense later first we

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have to answer some big questions if our

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goal is to match the PlayStation 5's spec we need a ryzen 7 3700x with eight

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Zen 2 cores and a 6600 XT rdna2 GPU but

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guys we don't want to match it look at the title we want to beat it that means

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making smart choices in the name of real world performance even if they might

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come with some compromises like this one we've gone with the AMD ryzen 5

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5600x and it's got two fewer cores than

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the PlayStation 5 however it's Zen 3

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architecture makes it the budget King when it comes to gaming right now and

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it's only 65 Watts meaning that the stock heat sink that's included with it

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should be fine to keep it cool that right there that's savings and it means

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we don't need an OP power supply in order to drive this thing boom more

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savings now it's worth noting that for a few bucks more you could jump up to a 57

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or 5800 X but uh we are on a pretty

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tight budget making our $500 Target even

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more challenging is the fact that we wanted this to be a build that you could

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replicate at home this isn't scrapyard Wars this is a guide so we targeted

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prices that you will probably be able to find in about a week whether it's on

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eBay or elsewhere if you're patient and have a little luck on your side there

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are better deals to be had out there David found this PPP for just over

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$70 just remember to follow our guidelines for Marketplace bargain

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hunting if you want to avoid getting scammed we're going to have that video linked down below the nice thing about

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going for AMD's am4 socket is that there are three whole generations of

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motherboards that you get to pick from but we noticed a few things you're going

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to want to watch out for first older generation boards turned out to cost

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almost the same as the newer ones but

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had a much higher risk of income compatibility with newer chips so make

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sure you double check the manufacturer's website second for the difference in

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price a series chipsets are a no no

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you're going to want to go B series in order to retain important features and

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get what is typically higher build quality even if it costs a few more

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dollars so b550 and b450 ended up being

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the sweet spot where we found multiple candidates for around $40 including our

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ASRock b450m Pro 4 it's got four ddr4

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dim slots for our 16 gigs of gskill trident Z 3600 megat transfer per second

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RAM and it's even got respectable IO

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including USB type-c now it's not all

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roses b450 is limited to PCI Express gen

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3 rather than Gen 4 that means that our

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system could struggle to get maximum performance out of future gpus and even

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today this is a compromise next to one of the ps5s most most advertised

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features it's rock and fast SSD our 1

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tby Samsung 970 Evo plus runs at only

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about 35ths of the speed of the PlayStation 5's storage but it's a

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reputable name brand drive and with most

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PC games being optimized for SATA ssds

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or even hard drives there will be next to no impact in our gaming performance

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at least for now so smart compromise or

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dumb cut let us know what you think in the comments below speaking of cuts we

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ended up saving some of our money by using the kind of case that might have

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some ragged edges on it but can be found for free or for just a few bucks on a

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local Marketplace uh David this thing is huge

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hell yeah definitely Advantage PS5 which

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with debrand dark plates comfortably fits in an LTD backpack LTT Store.com

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your mileage may vary here we got lucky is um and this was a pretty sick case

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before the trauma but your goal is to pretty much find someone who's dumping

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old office PCS or gaming skeletons like this for next to if not zero if you're

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patient you can often find ones with some cooling fans already installed in

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them to save a few more bucks the only big thing to watch out for is ATX

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compatibility and clearance for any longer components a Dremel can often

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solve compatibility issues but you might not have one on hand fortunately we

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behind their products hard they actually have a transferable warranty meaning

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that all you need to do is ask the seller for the original sales invoice

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and you're covered for the entire original length not only that but they

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recently upped their warranty on newer units from 10 years to 12 years absolute

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Chads now let's talk GPU this one it's

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going to be a little spicy but hey is the spice of life right we've gone

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with the Intel Arc a77 I know I know

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guys but compatibility has improved a

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lot and it's got 16 gigs of gddr6 memory

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all to itself instead of having to share with the CPU now people are starting to

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catch on to this thing and by the time this video comes out prices may have

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gone up a bit but we had an opportunity so we seized it also we kind of wanted

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an excuse to see how far Intel has come for ourselves after a couple years of

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driver updates it is worth acknowledging at this stage that we could have gone

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with a 6700 XT or a 3060 TI at this

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price

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but

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sorry let's game we're going to assume you have some kind of peripherals to use

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so we didn't Factor those into our budget but otherwise what you're looking

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at is an Apples to Apples comparison between our PS5 and our PS5

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killer we hope these uh fans don't work

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to kick things off we're going to be playing Doom maternal a game that runs at 120 FPS on the PlayStation 5 albeit

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at a lower resolution scale so we've set our PC to run at 4K but 68% resolution

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scale and I got to tell you this is not looking good not right dude this is

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basically unplayable what kind of frame rate are you oh W I'm 120

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baby something is wrong ah there's your

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problem right there on the p side you might have to do a little bit of

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configuration with the most important one being enabling above 4G decoding and

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resizable bar support particularly Intel

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Arc does not perform its best without rebar enabled oh yeah that is more like

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it oh yeah 1% lows of0 115 FPS it is

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amazing what a difference just making sure everything thing is configurated

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properly can make dude was this really

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500 bucks though yeah man Intel

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Arc not so bad after all huh it's hard

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to do an Apples to Apples comparison here because the image quality in the

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settings menus are not necessarily directly comparable but what David and I

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can do is we can skip this cut

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scene and just oh I mean that's interesting my field of view is so much

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wider than yours I can change that uh o

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I don't have HDR on though oh let's turn that on okay my screen's not pretty but

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what about my PlayStation pretty freaking nice do you

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like my PlayStation I'm the wrong person as I like this case okay hold on we're

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going to figure this out one sec I can't think of anything more Windows than

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having HDR issues so a huge advantage of playing on

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my PlayStation if I plug in an HDR display it's like hey let's calibrate

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you're done I once had a computer that had such a bad HDR issue that it was

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easier to reinstall Windows and figure out the issue I'd call you a liar but I

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believe you 100% what I promise is true the next thing we discovered is that HDR

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support on Intel Arc is a little bit spotty it turns out AMD and NVIDIA have

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proprietary implementations for how the game calls for HDR to be enabled and

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Intel well doesn't support them it uses the standard direct X implementation so

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there's no denying that HDR is going to look better than SDR in any game that

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supports it that really pops however now

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that we've got rebar enabled performance is looking pretty darn good and I'd

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say who's got the edge when it comes to image quality it's pretty close it's

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really close look at this cluster of rocks the geometry and the detail and

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the texture is looking I think the textures are a little bit better on this

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but the geometry detail is about the same okay how's it feel though here we

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go the fact that I'm using an HDR display right now and not getting an HDR

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image is a bit of a downer but most people do not have HDR displays I'm

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getting anywhere from 115 to 120 FPS I

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don't have frame view open I should open that I had frame view open one of the

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previous times before we were diagnosing the HDR thing and I'm getting 1% lows in

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the neighborhood of around 110 115 FPS

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it's really respectable here's something you've definitely got the edge in

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loading times yeah but with that

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said this is a lot of PC for the money

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it's pretty impressive I would not be surprised if we managed to put together

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something like this as a one-off you know we negotiated everyone into the

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ground but the fact that we were able to find with pretty good consistency Parts

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like this available for this price it's PC gaming back oh 100% is the render

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scale at 100% yep so this is actually

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better image quality than a PS5 cuz the PS5 will be 1800p upscale to 4K mhm and

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we're hitting 60 is I

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mean pretty respectable once again I couldn't help

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noticing this game looks a lot better in HDR though yeah those colors look a lot

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more vibrant this is freaking smooth one of

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the big things that Intel has struggled with with Arc is while their average

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frame rate might be good the 1% lows are

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1% very low here I'm not getting that

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kind of stutter this is a very very smooth experience and what does that

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game run at in performance mode 60 60

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yeah okay it's not a perfect 60 it'll drop from that frame rate once in a

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while but it's a little more steady than this PC one but with vrr I think I would

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choose that extra sharpness I was kind of surprised every time I tried

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upscaling it lowered the performance so

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uh let's go qu that's 1440p I

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think yeah my 1% lows are still the same

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given that I probably wouldn't bother but this is my first experience with

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Intel xcss in quite a long time and it looks really good yeah does it look

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better than FSR hard to say I'd have to look at up

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side by side but it's I don't see anything obvious that's jumping off the

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screen at me like oh yeah they're upscaling looks looks ugly even distant

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text super sharp come on PC let's go oh

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oh my gosh your your video did load first

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oh see who makes it in game first what oh probably who ever

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developed the bo oh wow okay that's not fair that's not

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fair though that's true oh wow what happened device driver h a driver D I

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literally installed it today oh all right 20 frames per second that's lower

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than it was before I also set it to 4K native oh yeah don't do that okay but

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HDR is working in this game hey there we

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go I hope this is a 30fps game on

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PlayStation oh no okay why is it crashing so much no

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it's got this it's got this I believe I believe it has the power of PC the power

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of PC compels you nice game for God of War it runs at

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1440p on the PS5 so we're doing some

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upscaling here but what we can't figure out is what the heck is going on with

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HDR it's not in display it's not in graphics oh wait screen calibration

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really you guys I think this might be

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the first game that does look good new game yeah I read that the HDR on the PC

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version of God of War supposed to look a little better in spite of this being a

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generation older TV than this one it does I think it does actually look a

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little better how's the details and everything

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it's pretty similar I think it's a little less on PC oh this upscaling

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looks a little better in the fine hairs of kratos's beard yep it's a little

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softer there I got to be looking for it though at TV distance I wouldn't notice

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they looks so similar other than that this one's a little more pop uh what's

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your FPS 60 me too let's go okay go

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yeah and go yeah this is so satisfying

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and go yeah get it Gros and go crap no I

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messed up the last most important

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one we're going to have links by the way to everything that we use down below and

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on that note if you're buying on eBay congratulations you've got great buyer

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protection so make sure that you use it by testing everything that you buy

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before the return window is up run some stress tests you know mem test for RAM

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and CPU memory controller Prime 95 for CPU compute firmar for your GPU and for

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extra credit push all the components at once which will help stress test your

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power supply on a related note by the way marketplaces can have better pricing

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because they don't charge the same seller fees but they don't have any

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buyer protection and unless people happen to be Bros you are not get

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getting your money back for faulty Hardware that means that you always want

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to test the parts before buying them and if the seller is being weird about

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showing you the parts working skip them

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just save yourself that die roll there's plenty of fish in the sea also always

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visually inspect the commonly damaged areas like the pins on a CPU or on a

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motherboard there's no denying the results though David this is a little

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less sharp but I also think I have a little bit more Headroom

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it's hard to compare cuz this one's locked at 60 uh I'd be curious to see if

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we unlocked it what kind of numbers we would hit but that's console baby you

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get what you get this actually seems like a good time to bring up that uh we

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uh casually didn't include a controller

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whereas for that $500 price point or even lower if you don't bother with the

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disc version of the PlayStation 5 you get one of the best controllers on the

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market arguably one of the best controllers like ever am I going to get

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another one that has HDR working looks like it you know what that's smoother

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though that's I was about to say yeah I'm pretty sure you're in 30fps mode

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here cuz that looks a little that looks a little sharper though yeah I can really see it in the

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Stray hairs here oh yeah to be clear

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this is very playable this is not bad

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but this is definitely a little sharper let me see what I can do to fix that up

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a bit over here in terms of settings I'm running pretty much at Ultra but what I

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haven't maxed out is my render scale so I'm going to try rendering at 80% rather

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than 70% of 4K The Last of Us is the

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kind of game that 30 FPS is pretty acceptable to me are there any

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crucifixes nearby cuz uh I think we're going to need one it's a cinematic game

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as long as I'm over 24 I'm fine look ocara time 20 frames a second

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greatest game of all time what can I say you've got the edge frage quality I

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think these fine stray hairs are not

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quite looking as good I also so wonder your set on ultra settings if maybe

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there's like some Shadow things we could bring down in like some kind of

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optimization that would help boost you back over the edge after some more

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playing around we ended up needing 70% render scale in order to get 30 FPS

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consistently and Last of Us Part One should be noted we could absolutely hit

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higher frame rates if we were willing to compromise on visual Fidelity but that

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wasn't the point of this exercise the point of this exercise was to get a an

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as good or in some cases maybe even better experience with the same budget

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and what did we spend overall we spent

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$475 we got $25 of wiggle room right but

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we also conjured peripherals we didn't

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pay for a controller and realistically we don't have a warranty on pretty much

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any of our parts we also had to put in the time to Source all this stuff and

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put it together including the risk of running into broken Hardware

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incompatibilities we had some games that because of our choice voice of an Intel

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Arc GPU didn't run as well whether that's crashing or limited support for

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HDR so full credit to Sony and Microsoft

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for that matter this generation of consoles I would say has retained its

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better value than a PC status for far longer than I anticipated and it may be

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another year even two years before we

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can beat them with a brand new machine but I also think that credit to David by

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the way for The Adventurous we've shown

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