{"video_id":"LFx26E_DBUY","title":"Why High Wattage Power Supplies Are Stupid","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2017-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":323,"segments":[{"start_s":0.04,"end_s":6.04,"text":"High wattage power supplies are almost always a bad idea just due to being too","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":3.959,"end_s":10.24,"text":"expensive I mean sure that is of course as long as you're not doing some asinine","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":8.28,"end_s":15.599,"text":"projects such as seven Gamers or eight Gamers or 10 gamers one CPU and even","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":13.759,"end_s":21.84,"text":"then running seven freaking graphics cards two 140 wat TDP CPUs and a small","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":18.96,"end_s":26.35,"text":"mountain of ssds does legitimately take some solid wattage your standard gaming","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":24.08,"end_s":35.0,"text":"PC does 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silent systems can greatly benefit from low","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":220.879,"end_s":228.68,"text":"power usage components because certain power supplies are able to go into a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":225.2,"end_s":232.239,"text":"zero RPM fan mode below certain amounts","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":228.68,"end_s":236.2,"text":"of wattage or usage at 30% a 1200i would","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":232.239,"end_s":239.239,"text":"give you 360 watts of zero RPM fan mode","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":236.2,"end_s":241.72,"text":"head room plenty enough for a 6850k and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":239.239,"end_s":247.0,"text":"a GTX x 1080 which is a really high-end setup but don't use this video as an","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":244.36,"end_s":251.68,"text":"excuse to buy a cheap crappy power supply buy a good power supply skimping","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":249.319,"end_s":256.6,"text":"on this component is just fundamentally a bad idea that being said buying a 1200","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":254.799,"end_s":262.28,"text":"watt power supply for your system when it will only Peak at like 300 watts and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":259.759,"end_s":266.32,"text":"you don't care about zero RPM mode is just lighting your money on fire there's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":264.28,"end_s":271.479,"text":"no point in doing that if you're worried about your choice of power supply check","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":268.44,"end_s":272.72,"text":"out Johnny Guru power Supply reviews I'm","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":271.479,"end_s":279.039,"text":"pretty sure he's been reviewing power supplies for longer than I've been interested in computers in total and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":277.199,"end_s":283.759,"text":"that guy knows a lot all right guys if you disliked the video because you're","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":280.72,"end_s":285.199,"text":"like I knew all that already hit the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":283.759,"end_s":290.88,"text":"dislike button hit the like button if you liked it and feel free to get subscribed check out power supplies at","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":288.8,"end_s":294.919,"text":"Amazon and also Link in the video description is our merch store which I","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":292.88,"end_s":298.88,"text":"think will soon have these shirts I'm not entirely sure and the Forum","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":296.8,"end_s":302.24,"text":"Community where it's you can discuss things like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":300.16,"end_s":306.16,"text":"the intricate qualities of power supply components as you read them on Johnny","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":303.919,"end_s":310.52,"text":"Guru because I'm not going to get into that type of power supply review nope","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":308.44,"end_s":315.919,"text":"not happening check out this video whoever is editing this will pick","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":313.639,"end_s":319.52,"text":"their favorite video on any one of our three channels actually no pick a tech","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":317.639,"end_s":323.88,"text":"quickie video because I'm wearing the shirt there we go","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"High wattage power supplies are almost always a bad idea just due to being too expensive I mean sure that is of course as long as you're not doing some asinine projects such as seven Gamers or eight Gamers or 10 gamers one CPU and even then running seven freaking graphics cards two 140 wat TDP CPUs and a small mountain of ssds does legitimately take some solid wattage your standard gaming PC does not tunnel bear is the simple VPN app that makes it easy to browse privately and enjoy a more open internet to try tunnel bear for free check out the link in the video description we have a number of videos about not needing super high wattage power supplies but it became even more blatantly apparent when our massively Overkill setup of a high-end enthusias 6850k and dual GTX 1080s Drew just over a third of the watted dwell under heavy load of a standard Flagship power supply at 1200 WTS what the SH now I know I know this isn't a new idea as I already said and I do have a fairly recent video on it a super craptastic Workshop video that you actually probably shouldn't bother watching because well it's garbage but be quiet!'s own Kristoff katzer has an article on this back from 2008 when he used to work with an nanch which is named debunking power supply myths and is actually a wonderful read in his final thoughts section he notes that few people if any need more than an 850 W power supply that's from 2008 components have been getting progressively more and more efficient this entire time and it doesn't stop there either power supplies have also been getting more efficient as well with the increasing abundance of highly rated 80 plus versions across the board recommended power supply ratings for various computer components have started to react to this as well which which is great for example Zac's crazy new amp extreme GTX 1080 featuring an oversized 2 and 1 half slot cooler and ample amounts of power sorry terrible joke it only recommends a 500 wat power supply for the whole system and cooler Master's power supply calculator seems to sing a similar tune an i56600k with 16 gigs of RAM a GTX 1070 an SSD a hard drive a few USB devices a 240 mm allinone CPU Cooler additional three fans and gaming peripherals all equated to an estimated grand total of 344 Watts at load and a recommended power supply of 394 Watts but as I'm sure a few of you are acutely aware this isn't the whole story and I wouldn't buy a 400 W power supp for that computer any day I just wouldn't really be comfortable with that not only do the capacitors within a power supply degrade slightly over time as it ages but there is also the efficiency curve to consider and the overall build quality of the power supply each power Supply's efficiency curve is more or less unique but let's use the curve of the Corsair 1200i for example you can easily see the rise and the fall best in the middle worst at excessively high and excessively low usages ideally if your power bills are high you'd like to sit the load power of your system at a highly efficient point in this curve as long as that makes sense to offset the cost of the power supply for that particular purpose another graph supplied by Corsair and the reason I chose this power supply as the example is the fan noise graph people going for absolutely silent systems can greatly benefit from low power usage components because certain power supplies are able to go into a zero RPM fan mode below certain amounts of wattage or usage at 30% a 1200i would give you 360 watts of zero RPM fan mode head room plenty enough for a 6850k and a GTX x 1080 which is a really high-end setup but don't use this video as an excuse to buy a cheap crappy power supply buy a good power supply skimping on this component is just fundamentally a bad idea that being said buying a 1200 watt power supply for your system when it will only Peak at like 300 watts and you don't care about zero RPM mode is just lighting your money on fire there's no point in doing that if you're worried about your choice of power supply check out Johnny Guru power Supply reviews I'm pretty sure he's been reviewing power supplies for longer than I've been interested in computers in total and that guy knows a lot all right guys if you disliked the video because you're like I knew all that already hit the dislike button hit the like button if you liked it and feel free to get subscribed check out power supplies at Amazon and also Link in the video description is our merch store which I think will soon have these shirts I'm not entirely sure and the Forum Community where it's you can discuss things like the intricate qualities of power supply components as you read them on Johnny Guru because I'm not going to get into that type of power supply review nope not happening check out this video whoever is editing this will pick their favorite video on any one of our three channels actually no pick a Techquickie video because I'm wearing the shirt there we go"}