okay guys welcome to the WAN Show hopefully there are no technical
difficulties today because we're live without doing a test
stream I love how twitch didn't tell their biggest partner that they now have
YouTube integration thanks
guys yeah yeah oh right right I thought you meant their biggest partner in
general but you mean in terms of their uh their YouTube their Network their
YouTube Network their biggest YouTube Network didn't know that now have
YouTube integration with twitch Yeah well
yeah I think they're uh I think they've
got you know other things to deal with you know I don't feel too bad about it
anyway guys welcome to the W show we've
got a fantastic show planned for you today as we always do every show is
great uh the part that I lied about was the planning I don't even have the
document up on my computer yet you tell them about the show we have um just
general disent for Ubisoft disent I said
the wrong word we're just going to invent words because there are no words
for how disatisfied we are there we go with how Ubisoft is treating PC Gamers
disent I'm full of disent um they're full of
disent their dis intentions are discombobulating my dentry
and taking real words we just got dissed
surrounding them with fake ones um and EA might not suck as much anymore but
they haven't made that an actionable item yet so haven't made an what are you
even talking about they haven't done anything with it they're just like yeah
they're like they're doing they're pulling the Microsoft thing they're pulling the Microsoft thing we're going
to support PC gaming sometime but EA's never actually
gone that far before so this is still a step in the right direction that's true
usually they're just like screw you guys at least they're paying lip service to
the PC gaming Community this is true this is true T-Mobile test drive ripped
off a line of te tips ideas and we'll be allowing people to something something
tell you later um almost went a little bit too far and
we now have a new beta for the front page of lines.com which you can check
out it's sort of badass it's like sort of the best thing ever it was designed
by me coded by me and all the Articles were written by me the lies just got
bigger and bigger didn't if catman's
watching he's just going to be like what
are you kidding me you mean that guy that was just constantly like I don't
like it make it go away he gets the credit for everything really no and that
my friend is how Corporate America Works kind of
yeah okay any no but seriously huge big UPS to Catman for being a cat and a man
it's like anyway we'll talk more about that later but for now intro time
this thing works a little bit differently this week so if I bung it up
don't be surprised so they just sit there and
then check this out I I swear I'm going to like hit edel because look at see how
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exists but he's popular and he's popular well depending who you ask and finally
we have an upcoming live stream it's going to be an ask the expert live
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get some pretty sweet behindth scenes details about how their Devil's Canyon
CPUs came to be and a hint word for the
word to the wise uh we may or may not be giving away a couple of Devil's Canyon
CPUs on a for mention
stream are you genuinely like surprised
or are you doing like the good co-host this guy is crazy I actually I okay
that's amazing you guys should be interested in what he's saying
oh my God one I didn't know this was
happening until like five minutes ago when you were like oh my God where's the
image and I was like apparently we need an image for this thing which may or may
not be a thing and then now we're giving away processors on it that's right
that's cool like I this is legitimate like I actually had literally no idea we
make snap decisions speaking of making SN you
giving away mine your what the the ones that I've been testing with okay cool
yeah don't worry it's all good I like those ones we got new we got new ones
okay so I have the wrong document up still so you're on point oh no here we
go all right so the headline this week
all the fail Ubisoft could you have shot yourselves
in the foot any better if you tried do
you want to do you want to go through this while I I I'll manage what they're
looking at on my screen here okay sure sure I I don't I don't understand how
people haven't figured it out yet that one like don't lie to PC Gamers gamers
in general but don't lie to PC Gamers they're gonna like Gabe has a quote like
really really good quote about like yeah don't lie to the internet because
they'll figure it out they'll plaster it everywhere and they'll never ever forget
about it and it's just like what are you doing so so basically it all started on
a misty day fog covered day with great
headlight effects back in 201
2012 all all the Fanboys were excited
about Watch Dogs with its amazing graphical Fidelity being showcased on
the PC they they they dreamt of nights in
future days when they could spend time night and Future Days you can listen to
yourself when they spend time reacting
to the light effects of lens flare of AFF mentioned Watchdogs and the depth of
field and then Watchdogs launched here in 2014 total poo well total poo is
unfair it looked like but what we can say is that it didn't look as good as
Far Cry 3 which which is a Ubisoft title
and old and not new so talk about this
neoaf article that I've had sitting on my screen for a bit here what is this
okay so two different modders CAD zate 24 and the worse um I'm more familiar
with the the worse have released mods which unlock original Graphics effects
to do this they they had to it's a lot harder than I'm going to explain right
now but effectively they just turned things on they had to find them which
was extremely difficult they had to gain access to them which was extremely
difficult and all that kind of stuff but essentially it's already there they just
had to turn it on which is fantastically
amazing and horrible at the same time uh it it turns on tons and tons of
different effects like uh St St I I love
how Ubisoft I'm going to go into UB response Ubisoft response is classic so
this is really long but it goes the dev team is completely dedicated to getting
the most out of each platform so the notion that we you haven't you haven't
talked about the stuff yet hold but I want to I want to talk show this and
then show the improvements because they contradict themselves a little bit
stressing me out okay so we want to get the most out of each platform whatever
the notion that we would actively downgrade quality is contrary to everything we've set out to achieve we
test and optimize our games for each platform on which they released
strivings for the best quality POS possible I'm mixing this up a little bit
the PC version does indeed contain some old unused render settings that were
deactivated for V variety of reasons including possible impacts on visual
Fidelity stability performance and overall gameplay then it goes on to some
long stuff after that but I just wanted to show the like we deactivated it
because of stability and stuff in the patch notes for the mods and in a lot of
the reports that I've been reading from people that have tried these mods also known as pretty much all of them it's it
runs smoother it's faster it's just as
or more stable and looks way better because they've done things like uh
allowing E3 2012 Bloom which is a setting ridiculous um performance
improvements enabled headlight Shadows LED changes reflection changes added
three new camera changes like closer normal further to give credit where
credit is due this is total biscuits 25 minute rant on how ridiculous this is
where he figures the only two conclusions uh for why Ubisoft might
have turned off all of these settings cuz he's sitting here playing the game
with everything turned on getting about the same performance that he was without
all this stuff turned on when the theory you know in your mind is that more
graphical Fidelity is supposed to make the game Run worse unless they're intentionally handicapping it so he
comes up with two conclusions number one is gross incompetence and number two is
that they're liars and those are basically the only ones that I can come
up with too so anyway keep I'm just going to let them watch Total biscuit play this game cuz he's a good guy and
this is a this is a pretty good video about how stupid this whole situation is
yeah so they added all that stuff they also added stuff like lens flare lighting changes civilian
density tons of stuff and there's even more stuff coming on the way that
they're planning to improve and because they've broken into it this far I expect
actual full mods to come out at some point which aren't just turning things
on which like this is still Absolut I'm not I'm not trying to downgrade what Cad
zate and the worse are doing I'm just saying uh it could be different from
there um then people started freaking
out because there was a softpedia article with a quote from Ubisoft
talking about Far Cry 4 saying that Far Cry 4 on PC at maximum settings will
look the same as it does on consoles so and their claim here so
their their BS claim is oh yeah yeah
well we we deved it on the PC and then we just we just like plugged that code
into the the the current gen new consoles and it like ran so amazing that
everyone's going to have the best experience regardless of what is that as
stunning as next gen console games are starting to look no wait no that's
Forbes right so even out of the box even
day one we just stuck the code on the new consoles and we were able to dial it
all the way up so as a console player you're already getting by far the best
version we can
ship can ship also known as they went through and scrubbed their Co this time
took out everything that mentioned anything about PC turned like instead of
just turning settings off completely removed them and then went yeah that's
what you're getting so to make matters worse I don't know if this is actually
in your notes but the word on the street is that the Watchdog performance patch
that was supposed to come at the beginning of this month uh is going to
disable the hack no I had never heard of that yeah
really so basically Ubisoft just keeps
on digging is that is that actually like a
really good source that that's for I'm going to have to double check I'll tell
you what I will double check right now um but okay I can go into the rest of
what ubisoft's response was um
so modders are usually creative and passionate players and while we
appreciate their enthusiasm the mod in question which uses those old settings
subjectively enhances the game's visual Fidelity in certain situations but also
can have various negative impacts never seen any of those there's a little bit
of headlight flicker that total biscuit noticed oh no he he's even said it
wasn't a big deal and yeah yeah if there's someone who's going to criticize
like graphical Fidelity it's going to be total biscuit it'll be total biscuit so
there's that um those could range from uh performance
issues nope uh to difficulty in reading
the environment nope uh to potentially
making the game less enjoyable or even unstable nope and no no so nothing that
they've claimed has actually been like perceived by anyone so what they're
trying to save people from doesn't exist and that's
frustrating then jumping over to the Far Cry 4 thing apparently the softpedia
article um is is not a very good article because
of misquoting and other kind of stuff like that so if you ignore that the
Ubisoft Montreal Creator that's that's when they start saying like oh we just
dialed everything up and it looked amazing um
um that makes me not necessarily think that the softpedia article was even
necessarily A misquote I think it was just in the way that they used that I
guess that's technically misquoting but it's like it's it's still the truth just
because they quoted it kind of in a weird way doesn't necessarily mean it's
wrong because they are there's no way you're just like oh yeah we deved
everything on PC didn't taste anything on consoles ever and then plugged it in
and it just everything went to Max that's not that's not how that works I
got to wonder how the devs feel you know
the ones that actually care about delivering the best product that they
possibly can that like group of Hardcore guys which are actually super badass and
made all the settings and stuff for Watch Dogs and then just had them all turned off yeah that's got to suck and
you got to you got to wonder and they're probably under some sort of agreement so
they can't say you got to wonder how intentionally gimped the performance
is then if they were able to enable all that stuff and have it run basically the
same um I just I just yeah I don't know I've
had people message me telling me that we shouldn't do benchmarking videos early
well that's the only way to get views it's one of those things where should
you review a game early or should you wait till the first patch well if you
review the game right out of the gate then people will watch your video and if
you review after the first patch you might have a better gaming experience but but at the same time ship your game
properly yeah like release your game so that it's
playable if if we if if we review performance of your game right out of
the gate that'll give people the benefit when your game performs really well at
out right out of the gate how it should of having a very good performance review
from us okay here we go so the mod still works you just have to unpack the files
and then repack them with the new patch. datat okay so the worst mod still works
but the patch does disable it and also apparently doesn't fix the stuttering
issue while driving
so thanks guys you just made it slightly more
annoying for no reason yay luckily that's still way
easier than modding things like it used to be so I don't know that's yeah yeah I
guess this makes the moding community's job in general easier like imagine how
quickly they could do those GTA mods if the developer just did all the work and
someone just had to dig around in the turn it
on it's kind of like how overclocking has gotten so much easier over the last
few years you just press the OC button it's going to be like just press the
like mod button oh yeah these are the PC settings
we didn't turn on there you go they
should just be on the launcher there should be like a this is made for PC but
if you actually want to play it as if you own a PC make sure you click this
button before you load the game it's just like Okay click thanks fantastic so
yeah everyone hates Ubie and then there's a bunch of stuff that's been
going around that didn't get coted up here for some reason but I still have it
down in the bottom uh where's that TW Twitter thing ubby Tessa oh this is epic
okay hold on let me let me bring this up because I mean their their PR department
in their defense I can't imagine that
they know what to do or what to say at this point but this wasn't
it yeah so I I was worried that it was edited and then I noticed the picture
was different so I freaked out a little bit but it looks like it's the same okay
so here's a tweet from Below in a tweet
a couple months ago you said watch Do's Graphics were not downgraded do you
still hold this to be true I recall replying saying that the game was not
downgraded I still stick to that yes
wow yikes it's like yeah Tessa this is from
Ryan Tessa you might want to put your uh foot in your mouth here I don't think
that that's actually what putting your foot in your mouth means Ryan you did very well though um but basically you
guys are all over the front page of Reddit I don't envy your PR team right
now I'm surprised they didn't get them to turn it off to be H I'm surprised
that they issued a statement at all I'm surprised that they didn't just wait
quietly for this to be swept under the rug where the hardcores were going to
remember it and mostly people would forget unfortunately they've added so
much to the fuel to the fire that again I'm going to bring up total biscuit uh
but check this out WTF is Watchdogs so the Watchdogs review 850,000 views from
3 weeks ago the was watchdogs on PC
handicapped on purpose video from 3 days ago
520,000 views they are letting this spin out of
control and they are adding fuel to the fire by denying it publicly instead of
just addressing it and promising to the
community to issue an official patch that turns everything back on there
is no way to fix this at this point other than shut up and that doesn't
really fix it because lots of people will still be mad or go just go fullon
look our bad we're sorry which you know
what that probably would have worked that would have definitely honestly The
Gaming Community like if you if you shake their hand and Pat them on the
back a little bit they're usually cool yeah they'll get super pissed and they
will literally try to murder you but if you're like be
friendsit there's been attempts well okay um there's there's this quote by
Sebastian viard I hope I'm saying that correctly Watch Dogs can use three plus
G of RAM on N NG consoles for graphics
your PC GPU needs enough vram for Ultra options due to the lack of unified
memory who is this Sebastian vard oh
excellent it's like okay then where's
the I don't know exactly where it is but I just wanted to bring up uh the there
it is G in okay can you show me where
that is cuz it's not actually helpful for you to bring things up on your
screen no it's here that's when I'm highlighting it
okay there we go so here's the here's the quote from gay Ben here's a little
quote that everyone in the gaming industry needs to
remember yeah don't ever ever try to lie
to the internet because they will catch you they will deconstruct your spin they
will remember everything you say for eternity it's like yeah yeah they will
so changing gears um EA has actually
done a couple of things this week that are looking pretty positive so the
original poster online tech tips.com is RI or Rafi or Rafi or anyway um and EA
says they have plans for how they intend to change the way they make games so the
original article here is from pcgamer.com and this is right from the
CEO although based on some of Ubisoft
CEO's statements about the whole Watch Dogs Far Cry 4 nonsense um I don't know
does does a CEO have more credibility than a
PR I don't know is he just glorified PR
hard to say so last year EA was voted worst company in America I think that
was wasn't that two years ago anyway the point is yeah it's happened a couple of
times so CEO Andrew Wilson says the new mandate at EA is to ensure its games are
functional and fun at a much earlier stage in the process than it has in the
past they want to be more rigorous about ensuring quality control throughout the
process and they want to be willing to delay A Game's launch when it's
necessary we have now said that there is
no alternative if the build is not playable you have to push the schedule
until it's playable again that's great um another an example
of this sort of new approach is the beta for the battlefield hard for Battlefield
Hardline that went live earlier this month and they're saying that they want
to do earlier betas to get real play testing done at an earlier point in the
process so that when they game does actually ship they are able to deliver a
much more polished experience the whole he he says the Hollywood Blockbuster
mentality of keep all the information to yourself is not something that makes
sense in today's world we can't keep a secret anyway so we may as well just
start talking about it there are disadvantages to this approach you look
at some of the challenges that Chris Roberts's team has had with Star Citizen
where the kimono is open they're like yeah baby here's all the bugs that we're
working on in pre Alpha you want to see this crap you want to see this terrible
code you want to see this unoptimized garbage and you know that turns into
uncomfortable stories where they'll they'll give us these internal
Milestones like yeah we really want to have it working for this date and that
date comes and goes and it's gone it's
not there yet but then because of that the flak is not as bad that's right just
be honest with people I had this conversation with another YouTuber a
little while ago where they made some
comment about you know whether or not you know sponsorships were okay from a
particular company and I basically said look I wear my sponsorships on my sleeve
because the way that I see it if I am upfront with my community about who's
giving me money and for what and what we're saying then there's nothing to
hide if everything I tell you guys is the truth and what we're doing and
everything we're doing is completely above it's up to the viewer to decide
how they feel about that whereas if I were to try to conceal in some way the
sponsorships that we have on this show that makes me a lot more uncomfortable
where if I didn't feel like I was doing something wrong I shouldn't have to hide
it and anyway so that's sort of that's my my take for my personal business on
the whole honesty is the best policy thing because if I lied to you guys if I
said um ASUS doesn't have a relationship
with us where they sponsor things that we do and that involves an exchange of
money you guys are going to dig it up at some point yeah pointing at our powered
by Theus g750 JZ which they're not even you guys are going to dig it up at some
point and you're going to throw it back in my face and you're right to do
that period you're right to do that and
I think the timing for this is kind of awesome because ubisoft's trying to kind
of like shove some things under the rug and ignoring other things and all the
kind of stuff and he's like we're going to talk to you guys now good it's do
it I don't know yeah I mean there's no
guarantees I mean this is cool um they've added origin game time so this
is another kind of new thing that they're doing I think they're what are
they offering two full days of Titanfall for free on PC I mean I I suspect this
as much of a desperation tactic to resurrect Titanfall as anything else but
at least it's the right kind of desperation tactic at least they're not
you know trying to like that whole Fiasco with Microsoft paying game
streamers to use the Xbox one but then
not allowing them to talk about it again it all comes down to the same thing be
honest about your marketing attempts be upfront hey we need people we need
people to play Titanfall we want to sell this game here try it you know you know
here's the first this honestly it's a good way to do it and some people have made parallels to the free weekend thing
on Steam and like that's fine I like that program EA should have taken that I
hope Ubisoft does as well copying valve is not a bad business Tech no it's not
they're doing a lot of things correctly and actually you play please God start
working on copying valve you're bad anyways um this is this is actually a
really good thing if I didn't own Titanfall I would have actually probably
downloaded it and tried to play it that's one thing too is being a big AAA
we sell games for very expensive prices developer having it so that you can try
these things for free a lot of times is helpful one thing I see with free
weekends on Steam a lot of the time is that it's an old game Y and it's like 80% off plus a free
weekend so you can try it and go oh okay I might as well finish this campaign for
$2 and then you buy it this is kind of
different because it's Titanfall it's a big fairly new game it's a relatively
recent game it's not a $9.99 special in you know the summer sale and like it it
happens you you get these big games and free weekends and stuff too I'm just I'm
just saying not not all that often so I
I I don't know I think it's I think it's great I mean I think it's I I I don't
know that we should applaud it too much because it's not so much a step forward
as it is retracing the old steps of remember when we used to have demos for
games yeah yeah yeah do you know how many times I played the Warcraft 2 demo
campaign and like didn't that come in like PC Gamer or something it was so
exciting because the the demo had you
not be able to build Knights or ogres
but you had to fight one in the final battle partway through one of the levels
and you were like oh those are cool I want to make those go buy the
game back when they understood demos it's cool I remember I I used to try and
get the X original Xbox I almost just
said Xbox One original Xbox magazines when I had one of those and like you'd
get the the demo disc for like Mortal Kombat or the demo disc for whatever and
it was like oh this is so cool I have one level of Mortal Kombat with like
four characters yeah let's fight for days this is all we have some demos were
too good the uh the Halo 1 demo allowed
you to play Blood G multiplayer oh my God which is basically the only map
anyone ever needed the whole game okay that's
cool when to hold something back that
map probably shouldn't have done that although you know whatever if it turns
into full sales yeah I guess there's that yeah my my dad surprised us with
our box and Halo so I never needed the demo disc luckily that was cool your
dad's kind of a badass sometimes he is okay so should we talk about the
T-Mobile yeah let's move right into T-Mobile test drive so this byon ryuk
run rukun yeah oh thank you that's
probably it okay so the original article is from rutters.com so we're going to go
ahead and pop that open on the page here but basically the big headline here is
the one week Network test drive where they're letting anyone and their dog
actually not their dog it has to be one per household ha see how I unless the
one goes to their dog unless the one goes to the dog a pretty pretty useless
demo trial but that would be kind of awesome like I like Bol style like dog
with like Google Glass and like what if you what if you got like a headset thing
for your dog that had mobile connectivity then you could send it commands through there so you could be
like come to the living room and if you teach it like what different rooms names
are if you create that game and then you
have a demo of it I will play the demo and promptly not buy the
game dog Commander dog Commander 2014
edition you know you just know the goat simulator guys are working on this
already dog Commander dog Commander real
life 2014 edition upstairs DLC 1499 so
you can try it for a week and unless you damage the phone this is with an iPhone
5S unless you damage the phone or you
what's the other one right fail to return it within the week you will not be charged anything that's pretty
freaking cool but the big one to me I just signed up for Google Play music so
the the $10 a month all you can eat service which is just it's amazing cuz
combined with the Sono system that I just set up um I can just be like I get
home and I'm like kids music play in the
living room and my son dances and like it's it's the cutest thing ever that's
pretty cool it's awesome anyway so T-Mobile is now allowing on popular
streaming services like Spotify and Pandora you to stream music to your
phone without that counting towards your data plan how much do I wish that
T-Mobile was in Canada we say this so much but like seriously please please
I'm I'm I'm not even on contract right now I just can't pick another vendor
because they're all horrible so like you
know there's a there's another new sponsor we have Ting but there they're
not in Canada either know I know but they're they're pretty cool too because
I know they are everything's alart and
anyway you guys are going to hear about it in our upcoming Devil's Canyon video Nick asked me before I knew that they
were coming on a sponsor he's like what do you think about Ting so I went on
this like little mini rant about how they're like they're I think they're even a Canadian company they're hosted
over like Toronto or something our rep is based in Toronto yeah and then but
they're not in Canada and I like I I went through all this stuff and then he's like oh well that's good cuz
they're sporing us now and I was like oh well okay cool I'm done with that I
guess put them on the W show they're not even sponsoring the W show we're just
giving them a spot because why not anyway T-Mobile's whole thing is if you
try it we think you're going to love it um they've also got that thing where
they're incentivizing people to break their contracts by helping pay for that
um and they're proud of the fact apparently that t- mobile customers use
69% more data than Verizon customers and
100% more than AT&T customers it's already cut you off do you remember devil zzz yeah yeah of course he posts
all the time even on like ncx forums and
stuff about physics yeah the physics guy know it's his son's Payton's birthday
okay I just wanted to I had to happy
physx to your son
pton okay that's it keep moving speaking
of physx originally posted by speed rookie on the Forum the original article
is from Tom's Hardware the word on the street is NVIDIA's gtx8 80 and 880 Ti
are to be cheaper than the 780 Ti with
toms's uh by line or whatever the sub headline whatever the Bold thing not all
rumors should be believed and this is probably a prime example and yeah this
stems from like some random Forum post somewhere and it's just like and it's
been making the rounds and I'm going to back up Tom's here because whenever the
rumors start flying about how much will NVIDIA or AMD's new Gra card cost will
it be cheaper oh my God it's going to be cheaper will it be more will Intel's new
CPU be cheaper will it be more the answer is
no the answer is just no because it's
going to be the same it's always the same every
time the one exception was GTX 68 GTX
680 they blindsided us a little bit in a couple of ways number one was that we
got a 256bit chip and they called it a high-end GPU number two was that it was
$100 cheaper than an 80 class GPU tends
to be so we
want is um the the rumors are that the
880 and 880 Ti will be cheaper to manufacture than their predecessor PR
predecessors um this much could be true especially if the rumor that they'll
have a 256-bit memory interface are true Al at the same time it might be a
cheaper to manufacturer but that doesn't necessarily mean that the price is going to come down as they say here okay yeah
what I'm expecting is that these cards
might be um you know an improvement in
performance and design so the of course they're expected to be based on the
Maxwell architecture so what I would expect based on what we saw with our
first Maxwell gpus so the 750 Ti is that
we're going to see dramatic improvements in power consumption we're going to see
potentially great overclockability we're going to see um better IPC so we might
get similar performance to the last generation flagships but at a lower cost
with a narrower memory interface and better costs and if miners were still
having a crazy Heyday they might be really interested because the 750 Ti was
a very interesting mining card yeah it was but that's kind of mining's kind of
yeah you can pick up 290s for like what 250 bucks on eBay now 200 250 bucks like
sometimes with water block they just like yeah take it oh okay yeah don't
worry about it bro anyway these are expected to start arriving sort of end
of 2014 beginning of 2015 but this is all rumors if we knew anything concrete
we wouldn't be able to say it anyway yep
speaking of things that we know that are
concrete this is happening okay I
thought you were doing this why does it look like that I swear I will murder
someone that's a lower third yeah it's a lower third but it's like broken and and
it's not transparent I don't think
unless ah yes okay well I'm going to fix
this and then the colors we look
horrible yeah I don't remember what the things are I think it's like hello
everyone it's 1970 let's just do like oh
yes what a Hulk bump up that saturation hold on hold on I got this i got this
W because that that my friends is how
crazy awesome this event is going to be this is the first major collaboration
why do you keep showing off that see thing look how pink it is yes you love
Firefox we get it actually I'm getting a littleit frustrated with me too it's
been crashing a lot for me like a lot and there's been other issues anyway so
um that logs me out of our Forum all the time to stop there's a lot of things
going on actually all right so anyway Highlanders the first major
collaboration between Linus Tech tips and Tech Syndicate we will be climbing
Mount Elbert in Colorado sometime next
week you guys will get content you're going to get Vlogs you're going to get
an official video it's going to be fantastic I will be there Logan will be
there Kane will be there Luke will be there edel will be there Brandon will be
there Albert of former Tiger Direct affiliation with Logan will be there
their new guy Jimmy will be there Paul from New Egg will be there Kyle from New
Egg will be there and Austin Evans hey hey guys we'll be there I'm on
a mountain freaking everyone hey guys I'm on a mountain I love it oh he's such
a good guy so it's going to be freaking awesome you guys need to be excite it's
going to be awesome I want to give a big shout out to our sponsors though we
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hey guys I'm on a mountain I just want to see what he does oh I love it okay so
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I get a lot of feedback from people who like Squarespace okay so we'll do a
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since we set it up we literally haven't touched it I'm I'm working on building
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yeah it's going great so far okay that's all I really have for you I haven't done
a ton on it um but everything that I've done is awesome I hope I can I haven't
tried to get down to like bare code yet but I'm hoping I can at some point
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fantastic but what I want you guys to do is I want you to use # Linus Squarespace
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to this than just tweet your Squarespace sight at me and we're going to show it
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someone who tweets that hashtag to us anytime in the next couple of weeks so
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conduit for them giving it to you uh what did I say hash Linus
Squarespace so you guys want to go ahead and do that and in the meantime I'd love
for hey look at this already websites I
created a free website with Squarespace so we've got uh oh no I don't think we
have any new ones so in the meantime we're going to move on to our ask the
expert Liv stream which is really no E3
was last time okay well whatever ask the expert live stream it's coming next week
we are going to have one of the uh let
me see actually I can't quite you know what I'm just going to bring up the Forum thread because I think that'll
work better here this is going to be pretty cool we did this a little while
ago with one of their uh one of their technical engineer guys on the SSD side
when they launched the 730 and I don't know if you guys tuned into that live
stream but it was really really good we got a ton of insight into things like
like this guy worked with the team that launched the original extreme Edition
and he was talking about that and just the all these behind the scenes like
crazy cool things go on so this time we have a product marketing engineer on the
CPU side of things so you're going to want to go ahead and there we go uh
check out this thread it's called talk to the product marketing engineer I
think I had asked Nick to call it um ask the expert but whatever um live chat and
giveaway you're going to want to tune in we're going to be talking about behind
the scenes how Intel's Devil's Canyon CPUs came to be and we are going to be
giving away Two Devil's Canyon CPUs so that's going
to be pretty freaking sweet so head over to linch tips.com you know what I'll go
ahead actually if some no I'll do it I'll post this in the twitch chat I can
never trust other people's links in the twitch chat because people do bad things
in the twitch chat I love you people but you do bad
things and there is no point denying it no no there really isn't all right
hey look at this we have uh the twitch chat is like that friend you have in
high school that you don't want to tell your parents about cuz they'd be like stop hanging out with bad people but
love them cuz they're awesome but they they do do those bad look at that we
have at least one Squarespace site to show you guys so this kind of shows you
how you can use their templates to create something that's attractive
looking without spending a whole ton of time on it so here they're using it as a
showcase for their videos but you can do a Blog you can make a store you can what
are you even doing or is that too early to I honestly I just wanted to grab the
URL lucy.com okay so I'm just going to put it somewhere so it doesn't look like
I'm just camping it and so I'm just going to make my own random thing is it
going to be uh grad pictures of you cuz I I heard a rumor that those are
floating around no it won't be grad pictures of
me did I tell you about that I must have told you are now now people are going to
look why did you do this you're a
jerk and that was
ever not not a known quantity to you
because this is cuz I teab bagged Yoshi wasn't it all right let's move on to and
yes by the way let's move on to the big
lonus Tech tips related news so we're
not even going to share the screen with this news because it is way too badass
welcome to the new Linus Tech
tips.com do you want to do you want to walk can't I I need a browser that works
for a second are you in Firefox look at I don't know what happened to this
computer that was like pretty broken oh okay is oh is it a zoom thing no
there's an ad takeover oh it's it was on Twitter and stuff I was wondering if
Twitter started pushing ads to people brilliant um apparently okay well
whatever look look on my screen just walk okay so there's not all
functionality is already in here yet yeah it says beta yeah throwing that out
there so I'm going to go through how things are kind of supposed to work so this main big slider where you guys see
GPU miners crash of 2014 and other things constantly rotates you can pause
it though and you can manually select next or whatever if you click in the
black space um that also goes next but
if you click read more or click on the image that will bring you to the article
there's some like teaser text that will go under the title so you can see a
little bit about what the article is about that I've just filled in a couple
of them right now because I just wanted to get the site live um so basically if
you click on things oops there's a bit of a bug where it kind
of apparently does that let's click read
more oh God oh God okay well this was
working not that long ago this was working like literally before the show
started well whatever it's supposed to go to the article why don't we uh why
don't we click on one of these to get to an article I think it's because so many
people are hitting it oh so it's going next because that's loading on your your
computer it's not going to be article because it's lagging so hard that
actually makes sense see there we go okay so the
article page has also been revamped the cool thing about this guys is check this
out so here is where the person who
posted it in this case it was rafy Rafi whatever um here's where their post goes
here's where the original Source goes and here is where quotes go it's just a
stylistic change to what is actually a
forum thread so the discussion that goes under it can be commented on on the
front page or the Forum and it all comes together in one thing this is
essentially just a more stylistic version of browsing the Forum where we
can feature different topics so like right now it's mostly all stuff from
Tech news and reviews but there's also stuff from hot deals because we were
showing the Steam summer sale thing that was posted in hot deals so anything
that's like a really big deal very topical thing could potentially be
pushed to the front page and you can see over here there's more places to see
other headlines we've left some space below the fold where we can put some ad
placements potentially but in general I mean we're going to be sticking to the
the Linus tips.com strategy of not inundating people who visit with ads no
matter who they are so it's great if people choose to become contributors so
they don't see any ads at all but in general we don't want to a lot of
websites actually design their website around optimal ad placements we designed
our website and then we're like wait where can we put
these uh fig out this slider down here
works by clicking side to side yeah and the idea is that big main slider will
eventually be the the newest four topics
and then the lower slider will be the eight topics after that and there won't
be any overlap right now it's all overlapping and there's eight total and
then of course we've got featured videos so we're going to have the latest Linus
Tech tips video as well as the latest fastest possible video so people can
check those out we'd be kind of stupid if we didn't try to feature our videos
on our website and then this feature is one that Luke told me was impossible but
then it turned out that if I hit him hard enough
um it's actually can work really well it's like this this cascading layer of
hitting it's like you hit me and then I flop forward and just go and hit Catman
and then things happen so basically trending topics is a
great place to check out whatever's a hot discussion on the Forum right now so
we've got AMD teasing something we've got uh a troubleshooting thing we've got
Ubisoft talking about the whole hidden Graphics thing we have the summer sale
and we've got um just a discussion about what would you guys like to become
standard in PC Hardware so the algorithm
behind this is surprisingly simple but
um it's surprisingly simple but I think it does a great job of bringing some
really cool feature topics up to the front you just okay we're good um then
there's featured builds at the bottom I know we've been somewhat semi ignoring
build logs of the thing for a little while so we're putting it on the front
page of Linus detective.com yeah and then we we are doing the monthly thing
um yeah yeah it's be next week I know it's
like super crazy late but we're still gonna make it this month and then we'll
be good to go in the future it's gone right now because it doesn't work okay I'll explain it okay so basically guys
over here you just go to the latest news
our shows is a drop down that has these broken Graphics we're going to add
Channel Super Fun we're going to fix those icons all that kind of stuff uh
this is the main the page will this is the main articles page where you can
just view whatever were the most recent articles um there's also another view
here for trending topics we're going to add another thing that's maybe a further
decay of the most recent topics but that is text so that it can be a little bit
more dense and then we are going this community link takes you to The Forum
and we are going to add a little Cog right here that will change your
default to whichever you prefer lusch
tips.com homepage or the Forum main page
so if you are are one of the Forum guys and don't want to see this ever and
don't care about it you don't have to yeah we're all about choice we think
it's great we think it's a really cool way to interact with what's going on on
the Forum but if you totally disagree
that's cool man don't worry about it or so that that Cog wheel will be
changeable somewhere else on the Forum as well so if you do it once it's not
like you can never go back we're going to work on a few things like we've had
some comments about navigating between the two can be a little bit confusing so
we're going to work on a few things like that like it's it's definitely beta
there's definitely still a bunch of things to do but I'm going to try and
keep the Articles at least pretty recent for now while we're still working on
things so it's usable um and then once we go Fully live the Articles should be
rolling because that's going to be the main thing and at some point we're going
to be uh we're going to be working with the community to have the Articles
actually be whatever the community pick so we're going to take some whether
they're appointed or whether they're however it works we're going to take
some our top contributors and have them start being able to basically push their
articles to the front page yeah I have a few few people that I kind of think will
already be on top of that but what we'll we'll see once that actually starts
becoming so very much by the community for the community uh we think it's
really cool we hope that you guys do too and uh there you go that's what we've
been this has been in the works for like
8 months really long time long time seen
a lot of iteration yeah the original design got
completely like completely redone and I think this is a
good opportunity to give a huge shout out to Catman on the forum for the hours
of work that he did to help us build this front page um just all the thumbs
up like if I had more thumbs
yay these are my hiking boots that I'm breaking in for our uh our hike
anyway so uh what's our next topic I don't even know do we have more topics
uh we even cover on this show I I don't
know we have more topics so we have tons of stuff in Rapid Fire uh Steam Sale and
we can also talk about all of these things yeah let's talk about the Steam Sale so have have you bought anything no
I think they're running into a real challenge here you and I were talking
about this before so why don't you try to work your way through the topic in a
coherent manner so so steam sales have been going on for a really long long
time and they I don't think they were coming as fast as they used to yeah
summer sale was like the big thing and
now there's like summer sale and winter sale and Friday sale and like every sale
you could ever possibly imagine so now we get to this summer sale and
everybody's freaking out and posting gifts that are very old about the summer
sale which I found kind of applicable to my point that it's it's a lot of the
same stuff is on sale and actually for a lot of the same sales so a lot of things
that I'm seeing go up like there might be one or two that are fairly
interesting but then a lot of them are just like yeah this is this has already
happened I already have this game because I bought it at this price a year
ago so I'll take a little bit of my product management experience and sort
of talk about this one of the biggest challenges is retaining um customer
excitement so I I worked at NCI for 5 years I was a product manager or
category manager for about three and a half four of it and um NC's sale
promotional cycle is every Wednesday night a new weekly sale launches and the
weekly sale can have CPUs or video cards
or fans or whatever else and the idea is
that at least some of those items need to be crazy and enticing because
otherwise you don't generate that excitement and that buzz and that hype
that truthfully even online even compared to because in retail you talk
about a loss leader where the idea is to get the person into the door and sell
them something else even online getting someone onto the website is a huge part
of the battle and then if they buy that that CPU that you're discounting below
cost they they might also buy a motherboard and they might also buy a video card and I mean in the IT industry
the margins are so slim that that doesn't necessarily help that much but
the point is that lost leading works and creating excitement helps to build the
relationship with the customer because they get excited about what you're doing you look at how well valve does that
they create this this excitement in this basically worship oh god of their
sale and what happens is that eventually
you run into a couple of roadblocks number one is that you can only drop
prices so low before it starts to erode
the margin and devalue the product to the point where customers aren't willing
to pay more for it anymore and then you can't support your business that's
starting to happen that is starting to happen um number two is you run out of
new interesting things to erode the margin on and as long as there are you
know Indie devs spitting out games every week or two um that's going to be less
of an issue for PC gaming than it became for it in the later days of me managing
that product because what happened was all of a sudden NVIDIA and AMD slowed
down from new graphics cards every 6 to 9 months to now we're looking at 12 to
15 to 18 and you can only discount the
GTX 770 to $299.99 so many times before it stops
becoming exciting you need before that be starts to become the price that
people buy it at yes you need new products to Discount okay so that's
that's uh that's problem number two and then problem number three is that I I
think I guess that's pretty much it so we we look at this and to reinforce your
point Sorry problem number three is because of the weekly
sale Approach at NC we ran into this
issue where from week to week the complaint was oh it's always the same
things on sale and we'd kind of go well man what do you want us to do there
there's no new graphics card it's kind of like when people complain about lonus
tech tips not having a bunch of motherboard videos and I go man a
motherboard hasn't been released in six months what do you want me to say I'm
I'm going to go cover old motherboards yeah that'll work my biggest thing for
ncx would be like it would be some themed sale and then I'd be like there's
nothing following this theme but the problem with I get it so so valve is
running into that frequency increasing margin eroding and not enough new
products issue but the problem is that you can never
backpedal I couldn't count the number of times that the product management team
would get together and devise a new business strategy that wasn't a weekly
sale and we'd kind of go okay let's do this let's do that we'll do because you
know what's funny is customers ask for it all the time we want everyday low
pricing and when you do that when you actually take an entire product line
look we experimented with it I did it I would take an entire product line and I
would discount it to the Target margin of a weekly sale item and I would just
put it up on the website sales go like this it's not exciting you have to
Discount and you can't stop discounting
once you've started doing it so you end up in this trap and that is what I I
guess we were trying to say we feel like is happening with the steam sales they
they they still have those pull items though that you're talking about like Witcher 2 the enhanced Edition for four
bucks 80% off that was a huge like I saw people talking about that everywhere but
then there's also a lot of games on here that are just like yeah man i' it's not
I've seen at that price like a whole bunch of times so I guess what I'm trying to say is as a product manager
I'm telling you guys you got to be realistic in terms of your expectations
valve won't be able to keep it up
forever I think I think I think they will but it's just it's not going to be
like the summer sale from like three years ago it's not going to be like it
was and people will yearn for the old days and what they have to understand is
that there's no going back to the old days there's no going back to the days
of Intel and AMD leapfrogging each other every few months with newer higher
performing more exciting CPUs that's never coming again until maybe I don't
know Quantum Computing or something like it's it's it's gone for now pum K is
pretty freaking cool it's the same thing with cell phones you know we're on
yearlong scheduled release Cycles with
the big guys with iterative improvements that really aren't bringing a whole lot
new to the table be prepared to be less excited I think a lot of journalists who
were disappointed with the Galaxy S5 had unrealistic expectations honestly I
thought the Galaxy S5 was just fine it didn't blow me away but then neither did
the S4 because I guess I just don't care that much but they did something that I
thought were pretty great I thought the fact that they still have a plastic shell but the flex is much less was
really good I just I had a different set of expectations for the
S5 yeah speaking of of discounting and
having room to bring prices down Apple now has a cheaper
iMac um I think this is interesting for a number of reasons I think it's I think
it's amazing that Apple gets away with introducing new desktop computers that
have 1.4 GHz mobile dual core chips in
them and 500 gig like mechanical hard
drives for $1,100 I think that's amazing and
they're basically Geniuses um but this
is this is the thing you were just talking about they can't go back now they can't they can no longer have a not
super cheap iMac but at least they've left themselves room to upgrade it they
can add a quad core they can go SSD and they can put in discret graphics so that
takes care of the next three generations of incremental improvements to the 212
in lowend iMac one thing that is surprising to me
is it looks identical yeah so you can still get the like uh I have an iMac so
you can still have uh I mean I'm trendy
our our our viewer base and our Forum
Community tends to kind of hate on Apple a fair bit but let's be honest guys
industrial design costs money the same
people who are drooling over how beautiful the 1 M8 is and talking about
how great it is and it's you know fantastic that an Android phone has such
great design are the same people who who are going to call an iPhone
worthless when that stuff costs
money having good build quality and good
industrial design costs money and apple
does some things right they put great screens on their machines am I going to
buy one no because I know where to buy a good screen that doesn't come attached
to an Apple computer but for a mainstream User it's not a terrible
choice and it's nice to see them delivering something that I think fits
really nicely into a niche I think someone like my dad would be just as
suit this would be just as suitable for him plus an SSD because I think everyone
needs an SSD someone like my dad could use this computer and it would be just
as adequate for his needs as a $3,000 gaming rig with the other argument being
that you could also build a $500 PC that would work for it as well so there's
that Different Strokes for different folks speaking of Strokes uh hard drives
you can Short Stroke them and we didn't Short Stroke it but we did take a hard
drive and test it against an SSD oh that was I was like what is this segue the
worst Segway ever it worked though we got there we got there we did make it
it's all about getting there that's what she said anyway so unlike every other
SSD versus hard drive test that I've ever seen where they take a completely
sterile brand new OS put the latest
drivers update all the Windows updates
put on their benchmarking applications and then test an SSD versus a hard drive
and you'll see metrics like oh the SSD took 11 seconds to boot and the hard
drive took 16 seconds and the the people
who don't get it the people who don't understand the value of an SSD look at
that and go yeah it's okay I can wait 5
seconds I like that I like I mean spread
out lean back I even saw some comments on our ad SSD upgrade zombie video where
people are like yeah um ssds are still stupid because um hard drives have 130
megabytes per second and ssds are only this much and it doesn't work that way
okay so but the problem seems to be in the way that we benchmarked them so we
decided to take a realworld like broken
OS hard drive like one that's had its operating system running on it for five
years got all kinds of crap running in the background is full it has like a
bunch of was full was full I guess not full anymore but basically has had
different boot loaders on it like like a few of them has had virus
REM the way that a computer get used and
then we ran we cloned that exact OS over to an SSD so we're showing the worst
case most broken scenario for both and we tested them head-to-head and you guys
are going to be wanting to check out the results that's going to come out uh
sometime when is that video coming out it's fully ready is it ready okay so
it's probably going to come out sometime this weekend or early next week so stay
tuned for that guys uh I think it'll be early next week it's not edited yet it's
like it's the all the that'll be next week the graphs are done all the footage
is shot I think it's going to be the video to show the people who don't
understand the value of an SSD someone in chat is SSD is just a
number no it is not actually it isn't this time it is actually
not oh man uh where was that other thing the VR
fan let's talk about the VR fan okay I
have to confess I didn't read this okay so you're on point oh dang I was gonna
try and get you I because I I got this but I was gonna try and get you like
what are your immediate thoughts upon seeing it okay I I did look at it a
little bit so the idea is that it's going to blow air at you in order to make things more immersive right I think
it's okay what do you think I think
about it I think that you probably think it's amazing nope really I'm actually
totally on your side oh okay and I've I've surprised like almost everyone with
that so far but I like at at E3 everyone
saw me freak out over control VR and I once saw my point about how for VR to
become amazing we need to immerse all senses yeah and that got quoted a few
times and I still stand by that but we don't need to be worrying about like
wind Force at this point in the game
with some like random little tiny fan which is probably not going to feel like
it actually is anyways for certain specialty like very specific that bird
thing like the bird thing where the fan was adaptively making you feel like you
were rushing through the air okay but it's not the kind of thing that I'm
going okay and if it's just a desk fan that sits on my desk and is just a desk
fan except when I'm like okay I'm firing up the Oculus it's still dumb cuz you need it
you need it to be like like for the bird thing when he was flying the whole fan
physically moved yes so this thing isn't going to work unless you like okay this
is where the fan is so my head goes here because like it's going to
it's going to have to be positioned perfectly so unless you're like strapping it onto this huge rig that
you're building anyways for the the one
game that it's applicable for I'm not really sure and I would I just like it's
cool that this guy made this but I I don't necessarily think it's good enough
or ready yet for one um and it's it's
I'm more worried about stuff like full body motion capture yeah which is like a
way bigger deal than the wind I don't know I mean I to me it
feels like um I hope Devil's Z is watching to me it feels kind of like um
especially early implementations of FX
where it's it's a nice to have not a need to have like like especially like
remember games like gr right where the
fizx implementation was like crumpled
paper and 10 cans on the ground oh wrecked right where it's just like okay
so that's there I totally don't care and this is totally stupid this fan is not
going to be an integral part of any game play in the next 10 years you can quote
me on that well the bird simulator thing
that's not gameplay that's a
simulation slightly different actually but still within the same category I
suppose okay that fan will not be part
of the game play and that's that's another thing
like it has these nice cool specifics in terms of speed and stuff like that but
it's probably immersive enough just to shove a fan in and I said integral part
of gameplay like you look at how long like physx where NVIDIA has throughout
the entirety of physx History had 60
plus% market share on the desktop PC
okay cards that support fizx are out there and yet we still don't have physx
as an integral part of any game play
with the exception of like cell factor
which was never a thing it was a tech demo couldn't you like kick cans and
stuff wasn't that like a big part of the game so with the 16 people who own this
fan are we expecting a real game developer to build in support the answer
is no uh apparently yeah to integral
part of gameplay yeah y y y so there you go I don't I just
yeah I uh it's it's it's a cool idea but
like he's he's not getting funded because of everything that you just said
um and maybe he does eventually get funded and I hope like someone picks him
up because that would be cool cuz they're doing interesting programming
stuff at the same time and if someone Picks Them Up and makes a way better
version that would be really cool if someone picks them up and integrates it
with another piece of VR Hardware like maybe
Omni gets like a ring of them so that as
you're walking around they could all work dynamically because you're able to
plug them in together okay by the time we're building solutions that are
Advanced enough for that like like how you and I were talking about how the
arcade no that's what I mean though have to be something something way more
advanced than this yeah yeah yeah I wasn't really listening was that what you were saying basically good job yeah
okay I was I was making a straw pull cuz you can already string them together so
you can plug them together and then they can work together to create the experience you can already do that so it
probably doesn't work that great though so if someone else what I'm saying is if someone else picks them up and then
integrates their fan solution into a much bigger product and then is able to
have them all strung together and make it so that like like an arcade or something that could be really really
cool all right I have a straw pole for you guys
I'm evaluating options right now we we don't necessarily
know um what form this would take but
I'd just like for you guys to tell me would you consider for your rig for your
for your gaming PC buying a lonus tech tips color schemed fan so it would just
be black and orange and it would be about 20 bucks potentially and I can't
give any more details it's something that I've wanted to do for a long time
uh we were looking for the partner sorry it's a high quality we can say it's a
high quality fan well we don't have the fan nailed down just yet so I've been
trying to do this for a long time and basically what I want to know is do you
guys even think it's worth the effort um because to put it to put this in
perspective to to buy fans like I would
have to buy them I would have to buy thousands so unless there are like
hundreds of you who are like yes I'll buy one or I'll buy two or I'll buy five
this can't happen so I I need to get some idea if you guys think that this is
uh this is something that's worth doing and you can feel free to uh to tweet
that at us as well we'll do a bit of a Twitter Blitz about this if you guys want to go ahead and uh
and tweet tweet us sounds dirty tweet
dirty to me and all the tweets were not related to the F oh wow
that's interesting speaking of tweets that are not related to anything what
the heck is this I don't know
um I don't know wow um live live shopping us on the
stream needs to not be a
thing someone says please invest in a
lapel mic that Explorer 3 review was
hard to watch with audio like that what's what exp what's the Explorer 3 I
have no idea is Alex Hardy confusing us with
with somebody else Explorer
3 I can't even think what that if that was a type of what that could be yeah
Explorer three anyway we have a lapel mic uh we did do a video recently where
we didn't use our lav and it was because these guys took it to a trade show so oh
basically deal with it um that's all I really have to say yeah I don't I don't
think so no explor three yeah no anyway uh
let's move on so people are saying maybe he meant E3
sure but I don't know people are saying they have brand preferences people are
saying they want LEDs I can tell you right now it probably won't be LEDs and
I can tell you right now they won't be cheaper than $20 um I'd buy a fan I'll buy Six I
would buy them if they were high quality and get my PC cool my build is black and
orange I'm down I'd make all my fans lus
Edition okay so people are uh people are
saying sort of yes um I'm getting advice
don't invest tens of thousands of dollars in fans lonus if I didn't invest
tens of thousands of dollars in my fans
where would you all be not fans of anything we do
potentially or maybe you would maybe I could have done all of this without
hiring people and buying a bunch of equipment and stuff I'm going back to
PewDiePie's approach actually that's something that I meant to talk about on
the show this week is news broke there was a Forbes article about how PewDiePie
makes $4 million a year or at least did last year I can tell you right now if it
was 4 million last year it's a lot more than that this year um and there's a
there's a whole bunch of stuff going on I mean uh puds himself has come out and
said that that might be something of an exaggeration um although I so call BS on
that because I know how much money we make I know how many views we get I know
what a typical CPM is I know all of these metrics and that sounds about
right so and like don't even just look at subscribers look at how many views
and how many videos he pumps out and there's there are a lot of
misconceptions um and and you look at how many videos he pumps out and also
the fact that it's basically pure profit because he doesn't really have a team of
people um or really any overhead it's it's streaming at a computer like he's
shown what his game streaming setup looks like it's nothing really special
there's lots of games but yeah aside from that um I mean I'm not I'm not
going to be one of those guys that goes he doesn't deserve it because the
reality of it is the way the world works
is the people who figure something out and are clever enough to figure it out
really well and be the best at something be number one at anything are going to
be rewarded I'm not the number one YouTuber so I'm not going to get that
massive enormous reward and I'm okay with that I'm not going to be all you
know butt hurt oh he makes so much money I'm so unhappy um you know I I say I say
good for him and people people are the the other people on the other side are
pointing out that he has done uh charitable donations and you know raised
money for worthy causes and all that stuff and you know I think that's great
too I also don't think it necessarily you know validates if people make a ton
of money and then they also raise money for charity I don't think that that I I
don't think that should make people less upset about the disparity between the
extremely wealthy and the extremely not wealthy um I just think it is what it is
and um that number looks pretty realistic to me
I I also wanted to dispel some myths so there are people out there who think
that um you know Google AdSense on YouTube videos is like massive massive
amounts of money um to put the to put things in perspective lineus Media Group
if it relied strictly on Google AdSense
I could pay each of the people here uh
about $20,000 a year after their taxes and uh
and after like Employment Insurance that's below minimum wage Pion pay yes
yeah yeah that's well below minimum wage and we all work like massive overtime
and we all work really hard I prefer the term really hard we work really hard
gratuitous amounts of overtime I didn't stop working last night until like 2
a.m. the point is that that's not the way it works however if you do get those
kinds of viewership numbers where you look at it and I think his view his
numbers are like ridiculous like an order of magnitude and more higher than
ours then it starts to add up especially if you don't have a ton of overhead
another of the misconceptions that I encountered was that YouTubers get paid
for subscribers YouTubers get paid exactly zero dollars for having a lot of
subscribers the fact that I have $850,000 subscribers on a channel means
nothing to Google nothing in terms of money it might mean something in terms
of the inherent value of having someone
who clicked and said yes I would like to hear from you when you some new content
there there's a value there but it doesn't translate into money at all uh
the money comes from the actual views so if you want to figure out how much a
YouTuber is making relative to another YouTuber then you would look at views
not at subscribers you could have a million subscribers and not be getting a
ton of views like um someone like Peter
chow and the revenue is probably not as strong there unless you know he's doing
um really lucrative brand Integrations or things like that so that's how
YouTubers are making the big bucks is doing things like um Devon super tramps
Watchdogs uh Parkour in Real Life or whatever thing there's no way that
Ubisoft didn't pay enormous buckets of money for that for example YouTube the
like couple million views on YouTube were not going to be worth the effort of making that video some people started
freaking out that our our minimum wage is so high just don't forget cost of
living expense yeah Vancouver is an extremely expensive place place to live
where we live has the 10 most expensive places to buy gas in all of North
America so yeah it's kind of
expensive food's expensive hous expensive and Foods houses isn't
Vancouver also one of the most expensive I think it's like number two most
expensive I think it's like after San Fran yeah something like that yeah it's
ridiculous ludicrous it's expensive okay um well I I guess I'll show the results
of the straw pole there so so looks like there are at least hundreds of you who
would be interested in a black and orange Linus Tech tips themed fan for
for 20 bucks um I'm still working on it I really hope that that's something that
we can do it's nice of you guys to you know give me your your feedback here I
really appreciate that I'm going to try and do it um and even if people don't
buy them then that's that's great but um we can make forts out of them yeah we
could we could make forts we could make a fan
Throne fan Throne we have to make a fan
Throne sometimes I just hate you we should try to make a Channel Super Fun
out of trying to make a quad copter out of not even a
quadcopter not even anything infin opter I think we're done here guys um uh what
what are your plans after the show I'm doing an Afterparty and I have no plans
tonight so I'm doing an Afterparty for like are you playing Mario Kart cuz I
want to play some Mario Kart you want to come play Mario Kart go down and play Mario Kart let's go down and play Mario
let's go down and play some Mario Kart all right badass all right guys peace
out thanks for watching the show we'll see you again same bad time same bad
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