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to your pc even when you aren't using it you can see if strange devices join your wi-fi and block them instantly get 25 off at the link below the original plan was to compare the apex 15 to other laptops from the blue team but given that Intel's best was just eviscerated by the thin and light zephyrus g14 here we figured we needed to up the ante so on every single one of our performance charts you're gonna find the desktop core i9 9900k to show you just how overpowered this thing is at the time of writing the core i9 9900k is Intel's fastest consumer desktop CPU and unsurprisingly its eight cores were no match for the 16 course in the apex 15. if you are looking for pure CPU power on the go there is absolutely nothing like this you're not reading that wrong unless you think the blender classroom render didn't finish five minutes earlier than the 9900k maybe the biggest surprise though is not only that the apex 15 beat the core i9 900k but that in some tests even the zephyrus g14 beat big blue reinforcing how much of a beast it is as for single threaded performance well the 9900k is still the king of the hill but not by the margin that i was expecting in cinebench just five percent moving on to gaming tests though Intel does manage to hold on to the top two positions on our chart although i would most certainly hope so given that one of those chips is a desktop one and that the other one is equipped with the new super variant of the mobile rtx 2070. the 3950x then is without a doubt the fastest mobile gaming CPU that we've ever tested and the apex 15's cooling system which you probably just heard spin up right there performed admirably keeping our GPU at around 1700 megahertz and our CPU above 4 gigahertz that's dang impressive so surely there must be some compromise then right how does the apex 15 fare against a desktop r9 3950x well unsurprisingly there's just not enough power or cooling for the apex 15 to keep up with a true desktop or with my underwear photo shoot LTT Store.com so the r9 3950x is running in eco mode knocking the TDP down from 105 watts to just 65 watts now originally there was actually a suite of overclocking tools in this laptop's BIOS until their bower took things a little bit too far and cleveland locked the BIOS down to prevent overzealous tuning anywho hopefully soon there will be an expert BIOS mode down the road that puts the options back in with some warnings that it could void your warranty etc etc the apex 15 is also slowed down by the 16 gigs of 2666 memory that we unfortunately had to use the original plan was to use 32 gigs at 3200 megahertz but ryzen 3rd gen desktop chips and sodium memory sort of uncharted territory so over the next few months we're hoping a BIOS update should add support for loads more RAM with an accompanying performance boost back to the thermals though the CPU does get up to about 90 degrees celsius when it's under heavy load at which point the clock speed does drop to three gigahertz and that might sound kind of slow but guys remember there are 16 cores and 32 threads in this laptop i mean we will regularly see six or eight core laptops that have to drop to the mid 2 gigahertz range when they're under heavy load so this is still very impressive sort of because something's got to give right so what has xmg well i mean really clevo the original designer done to keep the thermals of this beast in check in short the apex 15 moves a shocking amount of air for a laptop and it creates quite a bit of noise while doing it surprisingly i didn't find the noise too annoying there's no high-pitched wine and last half full since the fans are going full tilt pretty much all the time the laptop is kind of easy to tune out to really figure out how they kept the apex 15 cool though we'll need to take a little trip inside first you're going to want to take out the battery by removing these two screws and pulling up we were only able to get about an hour of time away from the wall by the way with this 62 watt hour battery but putting a larger one in would have been more expensive made the laptop bigger and heavier and let's face it guys it's not like 1.5 hours of battery life is suddenly going to make the apex 15 viable for use anywhere that you don't have easy access to an outlet five more screws which are different lengths by the way so be careful when you're reassembling and we can slide the bottom cover off revealing oh look at that copper and the heat pipes those are some of the largest heat pipes that i have ever seen at 11 millimeters wide which i guess means it makes a bit more sense how the processor didn't have a complete meltdown underneath the heat pipes and a generous dollop of thermal grizzly cryonot is the motherboard and this is cool almost everything in here can be upgraded there are two m.2 slots a two and a half inch hard drive bay and easily accessed RAM even the CPU uses a standard desktop am4 socket so adding another level of craziness here it could actually be possible to upgrade to future processors assuming that a BIOS update were provided that means the graphics card that's an rtx 2070 is pretty much the only bit that can't be swapped out in the future it's kind of like the the anti-macbook back to the exterior though the apex 15 is built like a brick a 5.69 pound brick to be exact and although the chassis construction is plastic there's enough copper on the inside that it gives it a pretty solid feel with my only complaint being that the keyboard the like wrist rest itself and the keys themself are a little bit squishy now it didn't stop me from liking the keyboard reasonably well it's not top tier but the key switches never actively annoyed me so i'll give it a solid b the bad news is that the track pad did actively annoy me overall the tracking and click feel is mediocre but it's the poor palm rejection that really made me want to outright disable it and just use a mouse with that said on a different laptop that would be a straight up deal breaker do not buy but with this i suspect that most of the time where you can plunk down this thing and your power brick you can also plunk down a mouse i mean the thing is less of a laptop and more of a desktop that can be moved around easily i mean even the i o is desktop-like you have three display outputs on the back i mean you don't do that if you intend for this thing to be used on the go but all of that positive stuff aside assuming you're after something like this should you spend your money on it does come with some compromises remember that you're only getting 65 watts of CPU power you're getting a lot more noise than a desktop and if you're willing to give up some CPU performance basically any other laptop out there is going to beat this for portability and battery life however if you're after a high performance rig the value of this machine is something that i don't know if i've ever seen before our config right here will run you about five hundred dollars which is a lot of money but consider this an equivalent desktop is going to run you close to two grand and unlike the apex 15 that desktop doesn't come with a 144hz ips gaming display or with a keyboard also the performance per dollar of this machine can be improved by settling for 12 cores instead of 16. the r9 3900x variant drops the price to around 2 grand which is only about 200 more than an equivalent desktop that is pretty compelling i'm used to seeing big price premiums on these weird low volume high performance skus but it's not really here this time so if pci express expansion cards aren't really your thing this is a heck of a lot of performance in a well relatively portable container isn't it so if you got a crush big calculations or renders on the go this is it guys nothing is gonna get it done faster just like nothing can get a segue out there faster than this guy anytime we buy anything online we give access to our personal information to merchants and their data 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