yes hey and uh welcome to the show this is
the lan show the lan show that is or the the gnaw the na show nah nah
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works nah
it kind of does that's a w that wins yeah yeah all right went show welcome to
it we're doing some new stuff there's the gpp is no longer a thing news which
i'm sure every single person in the tech community is going to be talking about a
lot boom because there's not a ton else going on so you know we'll we'll take
whatever we can feels like a win too but who actually knows we're going to get
into that also t-mobile and sprint are trying to
trying to become one again hug each other a little bit more than they did in
the past you know they tried it before yeah they're trying again yeah also dram
price fixing we've all kind of known it's been kind of ridiculous for a while
it's weird how expensive this stuff is so when you're pricing out a computer
and then you're like whoa that was unexpected anyways i'm looking
at the analytics lately it's bad it's bad yeah that plus
facebook stuff yeah all that more on the nashow oh
on the notch i'm chomping at the bit here
who thought of that clinch thing i don't know ed technically
that's hilarious originally we were gonna have a new one
of these like every week and then i think we made one and then never again
yeah obviously that's that plan which one's you there fresh books
the one in the blue sweater because i used to always wear that same sweater
the shorter one
i appreciate your stuff
yeah squarespace thank you very much uh my hair changes depending on the
season what season are you a redhead weird oh my
only in vegas baby
ginger luke oh that would be great didn't it be it uh we're going to start
off the show with a folding and buoyant community shout out we have one of those
things yeah i didn't even know what it was oh i
had no idea like i heard i've heard of distributed oh i thought you just didn't
know what our team was i had no idea what the folding thing was i got a
message from one of the members of the our folding team who was like can you
give us a shout out and i was like what are you what is folding slash boink
what and then i was checking it out i was like oh this is amazing i want to do
this i think i might set it up yeah so we have a community on the forum
dedicated to folding and blink folding and but boink is more like
boint can be a lot of things i know what that is it's friday baby
uh bowling at home is a distributed computing project for disease research
that simulates protein folding which is why it's called folding at home because
you're folding proteins digitally at home
and computational drug design and other types of molecular dynamics it's this
really cool thing and boink can do stuff similar to that or sort of not and this
kind of research takes a lot of computing power so that's why it's distributed so you can help out and
actually chip away at cancer research or alzheimer's research just by using your
spare compute cycles on your piece of crap pc that's in your storage room like
i plan to do or you know those mining machines you don't
say you could you could repurpose those to helping cancer if you uh wanted to or
you could not you know whatever whatever folds your boat
are there foldable boats sensible chuckles uh well
if you deflate a boat and then you fold it into the shape of a protein
anyways moving on to wait a second these guys all right these people on the
folding team yes you can do this at any point right like you can turn on you can
yeah but they also do these like like bursts yeah do these weeks where
they all try really hard to con to devote as much of their computing power
as they can to do it and sometimes it'll be like a competition kind of set up
where there's like leaderboards for how different teams are doing yeah yeah so
they'll be like oh like who can make the most this week or whatever and we're
like in the top 20. we do we do pretty good and i've contributed nothing to
this let's get it
let's get it speaking of uh getting something
no longer are you going to get NVIDIA
gpp oh i thought you were gonna say like get
screwed by gpp oh you might you might still get screwed by gpp okay so just to
catch up the people who don't know what the NVIDIA GeForce
partner program was it was basically like
if you're a partner of NVIDIA like you're eight oh no this guy what are
your thoughts quick before you go we won victory is ours you're behind the mic
congratulations are in order we did we did win but again back to what it
actually is in case you didn't know yeah oh the entire press got together
and made this thing not a thing yeah have you read their their oh it's
terrible terrible yeah anyways he doesn't get to talk about it we do so
continue let's say you are ASUS and you're you
sign up for the NVIDIA gpp
if if you wanted to sell
an NVIDIA graphics card um
with your special like rog branding because you're ASUS yeah you couldn't
sell any other graphics cards with that branding i don't think that the it stipulates
that like hey your existing branding rog you've got to use that for NVIDIA i
think it's up to ASUS to decide what branding they use in theory they could
have been like you know what NVIDIA we're going to use our awesome rog
branding on the Radeon cards and we're going to make new branding for you that
would so from a company's perspective though that would generally be bad uh
because the majority of the market is NVIDIA purchasers exactly you want to
use your stronger brand for that because you'll make more money exactly so
they're totally cutting out and this mindshare really matters right
because what they're forcing and what did actually occur when this
program rolled out is that you've got to make new product lines new you've got to
fork your brand basically so they made ares uh they this comes at a
considerable expense by the way oh yeah they've got a branding marketing they've
got to design it they've got to iterate on that then they've got to
actually print boxes get these boxes on the shelves and presumably at this point
these companies have already done all of that so now the partner program is
cancelled everybody's wondering if aries is going to continue to be a thing or if
they're just going to switch back because on the one hand they have the sunk cost on the other hand
that brand means nothing to anybody yet yeah so it's better to lean on your
existing brand what we don't know is if NVIDIA has remunerated these companies
like let's say you sunk billion or millions on rebranding or at least
hundreds of thousands is NVIDIA like did the lawyers set up
anything for this particular case where NVIDIA is gonna be like okay
so you guys probably didn't hear that what happened
was it the teleprompter class i would go help him
are you all right dennis is dead everyone so a glass fell
and shattered into a lot of pieces as we were able to hear from here i guess yeah
you guys definitely can hear that we just heard shattering and then dennis going no oh yeah it was very audible
yeah anyways sorry we're going to continue here but yeah it's it's unclear this
time whether brands are going to survive uh not not as in like whether ASUS will
survive but it's unclear whether or not aries will survive whether or not NVIDIA
will be compensating these brands for the work that they did related to gpp um
i i in the like who knows how accurate it was
leaks that we got i didn't see any provisions for that because i don't think NVIDIA was expecting to have to
pull back out um but i guess we didn't see the other side of the agreement
either well it would have been what those particular companies lawyers
came up with exactly so we didn't see the other side it wouldn't be in the original tof
another interesting thing was how they framed the their cancellation so we
learned about it through a blog post that NVIDIA yeah and they did not they didn't like
facebook it they didn't go on an apology tour they didn't own what they did oh no
instead they're like they framed it thusly you know
there's all these rumors and conjecture and myths mistruths around about the
NVIDIA gpp so rather than spending our
energy battling any of this battling misinformation
we're just gonna cancel the program so we can focus on what's important like
building the new technology like as if the gpp and all the backlash was like
draining their resources if all the technical people were quick
working on marketing yeah like the engineers were like i can't focus because everyone hates us this is a pr
nightmare this is so brutal
oh they didn't yeah it's that that part is so brutal because a lot of the reason
why this has all come to light was because of people i don't remember his
name right now but from the the guy from heart ocp
that that like pushed all this kind of stuff and the rest of the media not just
us at all we we probably had a relatively small involvement because i
think we just talked about it during when there's other creators that have made dedicated videos and all this kind
of stuff when when oh the na show oh yeah sorry about that yeah a lot of
confusion around the name uh but there's been a lot of rebrands
each week we have half an hour for when half an hour from now sorry um yeah so
it's just all this stuff was brought to light
there was basically nothing from NVIDIA explaining what was going on they
they're complaining of getting all the rumors conjecture mistruths
go far beyond its intent well maybe better explain its intent i know there
was one post talking about it but it was so whimsical and didn't properly go
through what's actually happening yes total bs they keep focusing on the fact
that this is all about transparency for the consumer so the
consumer knows what they're buying they know that they're getting an NVIDIA card
and that's the best thing you can get and they want to make sure and it's very obvious and transparent on the packaging
that that's what they're getting if that's what it's about then why even
rely on these other brands like rog why don't you just stipulate that they have
a big fat green banner that says NVIDIA on it if it's really just about
obviously branding they kind of do like i've never i've heard a lot of
complaints from new system builders i've helped a lot of people get into building
their computers and one of my big things when i would help friends or family or
whoever build a computer was always that i'll be there as like the guiding hand
but i want them to do it yeah i want them to pick the parts i would want them
to build the computer but i could help them with anything and answer whatever
questions et cetera eating snacks yeah
getting free pop because they would supply supplies for the uh is there
gonna be chips and pop that i'm in my hands will be too crummy to help you
there's one buddy of mine that i've built two computers for and every time we do he brings a case of vanilla coke
i like this deal it's worked out quite well um but it's
i've never had a single person be like i don't understand
i'm buying rog why is it a AMD thing or whatever like i've never
had that confusion everyone seems to get it
so all this hubbub over that seems unlikely
it feels like they just wanted to muscle them out of the good brands yeah exactly
they know that their market position is such that they're going to be the ones awarded the rog the incumbent existing
branding and that AMD is going to be the ones suffering
under the new branding so nice try NVIDIA
yeah some evan 33 uh is is spamming contrast
in the chat so much that i'm super surprised that he's not banned from the
chat by the bot yet um i don't know if he's talking about contrast in terms of
like what this picture look looks like or if he's talking about between the
boxes but in my experience it's pretty it's this probably isn't even what he's
talking about but in my experience it's pretty easy to differentiate between which one is an NVIDIA card which one is
an AMD card no he's definitely talking about the visuals of this
yeah this video feed but we don't care yeah man we're gonna make it about
graphics cards it's intentional dude this is the new style yeah
low or high contrast or whatever the opposite of whatever you're complaining
about that's what you want we don't understand it but whatever
uh so yeah i'm not like and i know that a lot of people at
NVIDIA and i'm sure they're paying attention to a lot of the press stuff
around this so they might see this section of the show at some point in
time guys you got to figure out your public communication you make great
graphics cards you have the market share the giant market share i know you're
very happy about that but people are kind of pissed off and i know it's very
easy for the community i know you guys know this it's very easy for the community to go after the company that
has the lions market share the lion's share of the market it's it's
very easy for that to happen that's definitely a non-insignificant amount of
what's going on but especially around gpp the communication was bad
you have to understand that communication was bad and this didn't help
with everyone needing to dive in and dig and glean and
fight for every little tiny bit of information that they could and for you
to come back at it by saying oh yeah
there's so many rumors conjecture mistruths are going around everywhere
clarify better that's on you man
and i know like it got leaked or whatever and that sucks as a company i
completely understand that that's super frustrating but at that point in time
throwing at other people for that is not gonna help you
to try to win everyone else onto your side you need to be open to the
community and try to explain what was going on in a not so whimsical and were
just fairies on the breeze kind of way because that's obviously not what's
going on give me your opinion on this part a lot of people think that
them canceling the program doesn't really amount to much because the damage
is already done there's some there's sunk costs
there's these new brands
like back alley or what do you call them back alley deals back-end deals back-end
back-end deals could continue to exist right now
just not publicly even name it something else
whatever yeah um because a lot of these big players they
sign these agreements so they might just carry forward with them
yeah we'll have to we'll have to see how it goes um
we'll we'll have to pay close attention to aries i guess specifically
see what ASUS does with that maybe see how ASUS communicates
around it i just
yeah this line of communication was very
in my opinion sassy
seriously though it was it was sassy and it was just it was not what are you
talking about their blog post the cancellation blog post a little sassy
yeah and it's it's like yes the community wanted
gbp to be pulled but i think even more than that at the core i think people
wanted to know what the heck was going on um and i don't think anyone got that
because now it's just gone and we still don't even really know
what it like actually was what the actual rules were we're being told that
everything that we knew was rumors conjecture mistruths
so we didn't know anything then so what's the truth we still don't know
they're saying like oh it was just to like make things more clear okay but we
need more like we have a someone showing us like basically a contract in very
clear terms and then you're being like everyone's just supposed to be happy
okay and it doesn't work by the way thank you ivan that in no way
makes it more clear for everybody that makes it way way way harder to buy a
graphics card if i rock up and there's like okay there's gaming there's rs
there's rog there's all that times two
for each different one that's way harder that's way harder
to figure out the tier of the graphics card i guess
because none of those words are like really mean anything no
yeah it'd be way better if they if i think
it'd be better a better business case for them just to say hey a giant banner
that says NVIDIA gtx 1070. well okay
like that's what that's people want right let's uh i'm gonna get to the page first
but let's go to amazon.com no
let's go to newegg
i switched because of like purchase history and related items and stuff
okay did you get a veiny vic don't worry about it boy uh let's go to luke's
screen what is that now spoiled
okay NVIDIA search
i guess you don't even see boxes
well i mean the name already has and like everything has g-force in it
GeForce gtx the branding is there so that's like the
text equivalent of the like put the banner because that's right at the
beginning of all of them well that's another point as as to why this gpp
didn't even need to exist because it's already it's already in the name
so i don't buy this whole transparency angle
yeah i don't buy it i wish they would just own it hey we
tried to make a lot of money we tried to make more money we got caught it wasn't
you could even be like we thought this was a good idea clearly everyone didn't
working a bit yeah i would buy companies do that yeah you should have shut down
all your stores for an afternoon and had some kind of training for all your employees
that's how you signal to the populace
man okay anyways i think we've uh beat this topic down and uh left it in a
ditch so we can move on to the t-mobile slash
sprint merger so you know more about this than i do but they've tried to do
this before i know nothing about it um i know i know was it the
ftc that blocked it in the past yeah
this is all ft ftc stuff so i believe the ftc was like
we think there's room for four players so no
yes that's correct so that would have been under the obama administration and
they thought okay there's the market in the u.s could support four major
cellular provider services or companies so they thought more is better so it's
more competition so we're not going to let you guys merge
that was then things have changed not only is it just a change of
administration and they think that the trump administration will be more
favorable to this merger a lot of it has to do with 5g actually
and the us and the and the administration is very serious about 5g
yeah remember that it was trump like
i don't know we want to say unilaterally but he he did that little signal we
should have one more little signature thingy to
say that broadcom and qualcomm shouldn't merge right and there's like rationale
for that is like qualcomm is instrumental in advancing 5g
and there's a big global race to be the country that pioneers 5g the most right
now and china and south korea are winning and the us wants to win because
you get lots of benefits from pioneering the technology and the standards lots of
job creation ip it was really good for the us to have
developed 4g and they want to keep that going
and there i think that with this
the new merged company will have a greater ability to pioneer 5g
it's it's i think there's an opportunity for t-mobile and sprint to make a really
cool name when they merge mobile sprint that's a little motion
here but they're just going to be called t-mobile still missed options oh okay
missed opportunity so they're merging but essentially t-mobile is taking over
sprint is that kind of the deal and if they're just being called t-mobile i don't think
the name like i don't necessarily think just because the name is still t-mobile
that indicates that they're the big winners but i don't know maybe i think
public eye might come across that way even if it's not actually that way
because everyone's calling it t-mobile now
well i don't know enough about it i can't
well it's they're not they've just said that they're committed to merging they plan to merge but it's not up to them
they still have to the courts still need to approve this
yeah and that's going to take a couple months i think um
even though i'm not from the states i generally like t-mobile
i've liked how they've done a lot of their campaigns i like the kind of moves
that they've done in the market over the last while so
sounds cool here's a theoretical question
every good capitalist likes competition right yeah my question is does more
players mean more competition not necessarily because
right now you've got four t-mobile and sprint are numbers three
and four yeah they're way smaller at t
and verizon should they merge they'll be about the
same size so do you do you think they actually have more of an ability is
there more competition when there's three equally sized players
then i kind of think probably maybe because i think where the market
probably needs more competition is with the big guys so i would rather there be
a fight between three big giants and
please no less than three
because we have enough of that problem in our in our own space with AMD and
Intel um and AMD and uh NVIDIA but so
please no less than three but i like the idea of taking three and four and making
them an actual product like a real yeah exactly against the other two big guys
that seems like a good idea to me and even if you can make a fourth as long as
all four are the same kind of size when you have four and you have two kind of
smaller ones and two kind of bigger ones there is good competition there because
there is competition for the smaller markets and competition for the bigger markets but i don't feel like t-mobile
and sprint are going to abandon their places sure so i think it'll be
okay they'll have more funds to move up market though yeah
speaking of collusion because three-player oligopolies suck
dram price fixing yeah good call
so the law firm hegen's berman
has filed a class-action lawsuit against samsung micron and hynix i love how
every law firm is so obviously a law firm just by the name
i wish that was one person's full name that'd be awesome two there's a lot
of people with two first names but not enough with two last names
so according to the firm's investigation the three dram manufacturers conspired
to limit the supply of dram chips between 2016 and 2017 with the purpose
of course of inflating their prices and we've all seen that happen dram saw a 47
price increase during 2017 the largest jump ever in the last 30 years and
probably ever because before 30 years ago
they probably had a b and c RAM but like oh yeah that's ancient stuff
so the complaint has been put forward on behalf of anyone who in the u.s
purchased something containing dram
from one of these three companies from july 1st 2016 through february 1st 2018.
the suit claims that after a global decline in the price of
RAM chips the three companies began in june of 2016 to deliberately limit their
output of dram storage chips
but did they have to if they're okay if they're colluding and they want the
prices to go up and set it down did they have to do it so hard
i mean like it's kind of like they kind of overkill it's pretty pretty
suspicious so obvious that's the yeah you think you try to be slightly subtle
let's just get them to climb gradually but depending on the details no man i
want like 400 new cars
well okay it's cranking up a lot they're also gonna try to get away with it and
maybe what it takes to get away with it is to be like we literally don't have
the capacity to make more so then they have to not build a factory and then they don't
have this factory or they have the a lot of has to do with their process nodes
and stuff too yeah so because they're not scaling how they should and they're like publicly saying to each other that
they're not going to go for scale they're going to go for price per item
and whatnot well i hope they get found guilty
that'd be interesting that would be pretty world would be more interesting to me that'd be kind of fun if you if
you could charge someone guilty for like your
jerks at running a company oh yeah
like you clearly have the money to build another factory there is clearly the
market to build another factory you're not doing it just because you want to be
whatever and charge an insane amount of money per chip
so you guys suck here's a fine yeah this is kind of where capitalism breaks down
where it's like in theory if they're doing that then there should be room for
the for a new entrant in the market but the barriers to entry are so damn so
insanely high the investment's so large and the talent pool is not big enough
that they own it it's an oligopoly
uh i wouldn't be surprised if these guys were caught
like actually guilty because from 1998 to 2002 heineken samsung and micron were
among a group of vendors who would ultimately end up paying a settlement to
end complaints that they conspired to rig the price of dram chips so it's not
even the first time this happened
also yeah thank you twitch chat for pointing out the resolution problem i
don't know what was going on there i had it set to default resolution and it must
have been on like 64 by 64. not actually but it was pretty freaking bad so i
changed it and we seem to be good now that's i put it that way actually
because i have a zip um thanks luke
yeah get owned now it is there for the world scene no it was the the resolution
of this screen ah so it didn't even have anything to they could already see my
sets yeah yeah it's okay there for the world to see
speaking of for the world to see let's do sponsor spots sponsor sponsors
yes get money for the world not to see
your private in infra infranet your your private internet uh access information
animation i meant to say your private information
but i tripped like 18 times trying to get there but anyways pia if you need a
vpn uh like my dad did to access his own
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um with the the itunes both ways
he well okay he's a he's a um
instructor and the i.t department at school had no idea
why he couldn't access the website so i was like just you know do that
thing and it worked what's his website can we all go to it right now uh that'll
probably bring it down um but luke's dad.com
yeah let's not i'm actually not gonna tell the domain name because i actually
i'm going to go to lukesdad.com just to see is there a website that's probably
owned but not you might want a vpn behind
okay yes someone's going to own that it's
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uh they they have apps for for Android and iOS if you need it uh
there's apps for Windows macOS literally the notes on here say Linus
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unexpectedly that's quite cool not all vpns have that so if your vpn
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that's such a fail uh check it out today at the link that's like below here if
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if you're if you're trying to run a company and you need to invoice people
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there's no escalations there's no return calls they just pick up and and solve
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to make other websites it's it's like website section it's wonderful uh it has
a replicator it's 12 bucks a month if you subscribe
for a year you get a domain with it because that kind of makes sense so you
can go to one place get a domain and a website you can build your website
really easily even if you have no idea what building website even means you can
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that might be semi-problematic you could use a voice to connect yeah
and you might not be able to do a clicking thing some other way
yeah for if you're like partially disabled in some way you can scroll with your tongue
i'm not sure how it works there was a kid in my school and he showed me how
his worked and it was actually really cool uh
but that was a long time ago and i'm sure it's advanced since then so yeah
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hold on there we go we have like creators oh
wrong one we have creators on the platform and stuff so you can check out
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who did that one i didn't call my video that what is that well that okay history
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who works here
that might be a tech wiki maybe we'll see uh not now though there's also other
stuff from lions tech tips there's stuff from bitwit ultra if you subscribe to
him there's stuff from tech deals if you subscribe to them it's cool it's a
platform that has different people that you can subscribe to see their videos
that's a try it's a tech cookie ah nice we have we have a confirmation dennis um
and you can watch their videos in glorious uh really high bit rate and
really nice sound quality and a private nice little comment section so you don't
have to deal with the drivel that's on youtube yeah and it has a thumbs down button it does
so you can be like in the comments you're dumb
other humans get used to it's the real world virtually
don't say this out loud but look at that i'm gonna buy that
i love that i'm gonna make it into something cool
you know you know one of my favorite domains that we have that we have to do
something with but we don't know what yet it's
we've adequatevideoservice.com thinking about using it for like our back end or something but
yeah it's just so funny it's funny little joke don't worry about it
too much you could use that for april fools maybe
that'll be funny like redirecting the whole thing warranty void stickers we have an update
that's exciting i've been excited by this for a little while i'm gonna last i
think i was on here last time we talked about it like two or three weeks ago that we talked about it together and at
the time one quick thing someone asked is there a Floatplane free trial there will be
there isn't yet um we're currently in like still like an
alpha e kind of stage so once we properly release there will be the day
there's a free trial is the day i use it for the first time
that's not true i'm just yes i was on there today i was like you have
to i have no choice rip
uh so okay per u.s law no warranty or
product sold for over five bucks can put any restrictions on repairs who does the
repairing you can't have a sticker on your product that says if you break this sticker or your voice
your your voice ward that happened last time
one of us said you're going to use ward last time anyway it's still true today
your voice will be ward if you
use a third party repair service at least that's what they say but that's
actually illegal in the u.s and what we learned last time when the news broke is
that is it the ftc they issued yes it is they
issued letters to six big companies we
didn't know who the companies were but they they were like look guys younos has
been illegal since the 70s we're about to crack the whip crack down on it yeah
and guess what now we know who those companies were hit me with them luke sony microsoft
nintendo wow
what competition it's like all the console people it's interesting
um also i don't understand the five dollar thing
why are you allowed to put restrictions on repairs for things under five dollars
that's so weird i think it's um
it's probably a bundle like this one sentence that we're our claws that we're
focused on in the context of this article is a part of a larger bundle and
to attribute that whole bundle to items that are cheaper than five bucks would
just be too much work and it would probably like inhibit people from starting cheapy little businesses okay
sure that's my speculation why not it's just such a weird like
what's even under five dollars that you would take to a repair shop fidget
spinner grease that puppy up it just doesn't spin anymore
a quarter turns all i get i just need some wd-40 but i don't want to spray it
on myself don't worry about it uh yeah hanging on
a little hook so anyway
it got very specific that's about it for that story honestly
the companies have 30 days to revise there's been uh online you can see a
kind of a more generic version of the letter um
but each company did receive a customized tailored letter specifically
outlining the prop the offending product so in the case of microsoft it was the
xbox consoles that had these um
these stickers on them and they're not just it's not just about repairs it also
says something about third-party um like accessories as well oh
interesting yes it's it's microsoft's actually in a pretty good
spot for that because while their surface notebooks have like notoriously
been terrifying to try to work on because
like the terra cotta and like all this other kind of stuff uh the xbox one x
you're talking about you're talking when you said terra cotta you're talking about that like uh yeah well sorry is it
called something is like uh like that's play that's on like yeah okay so what is that called
i don't know i think it's terra or something it has a weird name what is it
alcantara there we go alcantara yeah yeah thank you now that people are in
their cars we can stop so you ever been listening
to a podcast while you're driving you're just like
yeah yeah yeah so is that is that is that what the like the soldiers are made
out of the like huge amount of uh terracotta army yeah ah yeah yes so
that's where i played too much civ apparently um
anyways where am i going with this the xbox one x is actually kind of
wonderfully easy to uh take apart and put back together
terracotta yeah there it is it's a type of earthenware hmm
who knows where all right that's where the show is going
so yeah this this is good i'm very happy about this we'll have to see what
actually comes of it hopefully it means that my switch is still good to go even
though i have turned it into a purple thing instead of a black thing
so that's cool um moving on is this your
thing what thing this topic no oh
oh so sort of actually microsoft was an expert
witness no i don't read that part what it was like click on the click on the
forum link that came to us from gemini jay oh one
this possibly three oh man this is
ah this is long uh and i can't share it on my screen because i'm logged into the
thing well let's just skip it are you a fan of this guy
are you fans not particularly do you want to talk about that we can i'd i'm
not i've read it but
i don't know i don't really know the guy okay how about this you know what we're
gonna go let's cruise right into facebook sure there's two facebook-ish things today
uh number one at f8 which is their developer
conference which is happening right around now they announced that they plan to create
a clear history tool so
this feature will enable you to see the websites and apps that send facebook
information when you use them it'll enable you to delete this information
from your account and turn off facebook's ability to store that information
associated with your account going forward
they will still provide apps and websites with aggregated analytics
that's anonymous anonymized
and this tool won't be launching for a few months they gotta build it and test
it and apparently they're they're sitting down having town hall
meetings with security experts around the us and all that kind of stuff do you
think this would be a cool tool that you would use do you even use facebook
uh i have one the only things i use i don't
want to say once i have once i've fully deleted my
account like four times oh you want to um i also didn't create you make a
facebook status before installation be like hey guys i'm
getting off facebook no i just disappeared into the ether
without telling anybody every single time uh i didn't even create my original
facebook account uh one of my friends apparently i guess thank you jesse by
the way a real name um uh created a
facebook account under my name and then gave me the login and was like start
using this and i was like okay hook everything up to it yeah your data is
gone goodbye uh yeah so i've never been
a huge fan of it uh now i use it for the messenger portion because basically
everyone's on there so if you need to contact someone it's usually what an
Android thing would be work to do yeah yeah basically yeah i do the same um and
then i use groups a little bit i've got two groups on there that i'm fairly
active in one of them one for sharing music
and one for talking about nerdy things with my high school friends you care
about music yeah yeah
talk about this later okay yeah sounds good i can just invite you to the group
oh we're all plebs he's above us so you can't yeah you can't you can't join the
music sharing group uh so yeah i don't know that's cool there's been other
stuff that's come out of
uh f8 f8 makes way more sense um
wow that's fantastic uh but apparently they're gonna do a
dating app i don't know if i don't think we talked about that last week oh i
haven't heard that facebook dating app yeah let me let me just google this live
on the show dating app
interesting first met no
facebook dating looks a lot like hinge facebook is taking on tinder with new
dating features i wonder if they all cut off tinder from their login with
facebook no they couldn't kind of doubt it they couldn't yeah facebook is an
integral part of tinder yeah so yeah new dating app amid all of the
crazy privacy stuff they are directly planning on making a dating app and it's
interesting because they're they've straight up called out that it will not
be designed around hookups at all uh that's not for you to decide yeah i
know but they're they're pushing it to not be that way it will not ever connect
you with a friend uh facebook friend yes
okay so part of the idea is that it pushes you to new people that's cool and
it will like keep even the idea that you're on it away from your friends
oh interesting so it's supposed to be private away from your friends that you're on this thing give us your data
and we'll give you a date yeah yeah and
a big part of it is this section they're talking about conversation starters so
they'll they'll try to have like events that are happening around you and
they'll try to use groups and things that you're both interested in to try to
come up with something for you guys to do uh that is hopefully interesting yeah
that's cool uh one problem with uh the way
particularly tinder works is like you know the first stage of tinder is
like hey you think i'm hot i think you're hot so we got that so like boom
that mystery solved but then now you're just in an empty chat and like what do
we talk about yeah where did you start so that actually might this actually
might help with that a lot i've been on the dating scene in a long time but i
just having something that's like hey we're both interested in this thing but
without having to go through the monotony of like reading through a basically resume yeah giant profile yeah
we need something in the middle here yeah that's that's a that's an interesting idea it's just kind of
funny that they're bringing this up at the time while they're having all these privacy issues but at the same time
despite all the privacy issues basically no one's leaving facebook
so it's probably fine related to that uh
because of the privacy things facebook is revisiting
the possibility of having a subscription model not it would be an option it's an
option okay okay just want to say this loud and clear facebook's not going to
be like hey you want to keep your facebook account five bucks a month 50 bucks a month
oh ad free okay it would be an ad free subscription model and i i think it
means you're going to be giving up a lot less data too so they looked into this
in the past and then internally basically everyone's like i
don't think that's going to work so they didn't bother doing it but now
they think the client has changed enough that enough people who are
who are considering leaving facebook because of
data and ads might say well it's worth it to me just
to stay if they get rid of ads and they don't
scrape i could be interested in this see i don't know i might even use
facebook more really this is really interesting to me
because one of the the questions here is like
would would the spur more people to join uh hell no in my opinion no not a chance
i don't think all it would do is retain existing
customers yeah i don't think there was going to be anyone who's like whoa whit
it's subscription model now i'm in i think technically there will technically
be some of those people but i think it it'll be such an insignificant amount
that it just won't matter it'll be the same number of people who
like want to pay with gold doubloons instead of us
dollars yeah like it's going to be they're out
there it's a really small amount of people but i think it will definitely
increase again a very small percentage of people but probably a bigger one than
we were just talking about people like me to use it a little bit more um i
don't like ads but i also don't like running ad blocker because kind of you
know we do a thing on the internet and when you do things on the internet ad
blocker has the potential of taking away all of your money it doesn't for us obviously um but i i do feel
like i don't know i don't want to get into the ad blocker thing because the entire internet just gets super pissed
if you ever talk about it but anyways i don't run an ad blocker so i prefer
neither do i i prefer to you can do whatever you want i'm not i'm you can do
whatever you want unless you want to be cool uh but and people are like uh yeah no i
actually haven't gotten around to it i'm just lazy i don't know
uh but yeah i would rather pay a website and not have to see ads
i liked that about twitch you could get twitch turbo
now just everyone's amazon prime i would have called it turbo
turbo then you could have a little like mascot for it
it's turbo that's actually pretty cute the twerking
robot oh okay not cute that's just gebo
no where's rancho going this is the nashville it's a parallel universe
okay so two topics left which one do you like
let's do both we have why not both 12 minutes they're
both kind of uh hp printer firmware breaches
australian consumer laws i have no idea what's going on take it away
uh okay so
i'll join you in a moment i think this began yeah in the fall of 2016 hp sold a
bunch of printers or updated a bunch of existing printers
in australia without telling consumers that
their software in these in these printers or in the firmware
that is going to limit you from using third-party ink cartridges
and that's illegal in australia so
now they're in trouble and get this
hp is offering consumers who were prevented from using a non-hp cartridge
compensation of fifty dollars if you more than two thousand customers
suffered under this uh under this software and if they each get their
fifty dollars that's gonna cost hp hold on to your tits a hundred thousand
dollars hp is like
wait how much oh okay great it's like that's seen in awesome powers where he's
like a million dollars and they all start laughing yeah
fine yeah i was worth a shot
no problem they probably got way more sales of ink than that hundred thousand
dollars yeah that's that's really not a lot um
especially because not all the consumers are going to even
claim this no the laziness will prevail in a lot of
these kind of situations it's like it's like the idea behind like why are there
still mail-in rebates why isn't it just automatically taken off at the till at
first because you're probably not going to mail it in heck no especially now god even in the
even when snail mail was just called mail i wouldn't do that yeah yeah and
most people wouldn't so the the discount actually becomes when you when you do
the math on your end it's not ten dollars off every single item that you
sell it's ten dollars off like actually a pretty small portion but you will
probably send sell more because you can post the price as being lower because
you're like it's lowered because of mail and rebate but then no one does it anyways stupid stuff but genius yeah so
it's not even gonna be close to a hundred thousand how much is a new like
proprietary hp ink cartridge i don't know 100 bucks
i let's it really depends on uh
i wish i had the model number the printer here
25 36
that's the thing it really depends on what printer it is because like this hp
61 thing and like this one
but then like the laserjet ones more but they said ink cartridge so it's not that
okay i don't know it really depends on what
cartridge it is well all i'm going to say is even if
like half the people affected just bought ink then they've already paid for the whole
scandal so in australia about 60 bucks a cartridge apparently 60 australian
yeah that'll be like i think it's stronger than canadian peso
but like not as strong as the u.s someone just gave me the price per
pallet that's that's cool but no exactly not
particularly helpful at the moment um
one more topic yeah okay let's move on
uh mining it was hard and uh now it's gonna be harder new
bitmain asic miners or easier depending on how you approach it
yeah it's harder for the average show yeah easier to actually get done harder
for your average these the uh bitcain
bitmain asic miners
uh and it's it smashes GPU performance we've got crypto mining hardware blah
blah blah blah for 2 000 it can perform as well as 15 1080 ti gpus at a mere 300
watts equihash is the algorithm used by zcash
zencash bitcoin gold bitcoin z bitcoin private komodo z classic and i believe
potentially even more um so what this means is that
it's so much more efficient to use this uh what they call an asic an application
specific integrated circuit a specialized computer it's so much more
efficient to use that than just use a regular off-the-shelf GPU
that it brings a concern about how decentralized and free
the uh cryptocurrency is now because in the utopian world that
we enthusiasts dream about anyone can can support the network
anyone can be a node in the network because you can just use an off-the-shelf GPU that you probably have
in your computer anyway once there's a specialized machine that's sold by one
company then there's
then it's centralized basically it's not and the thing is with these it's like
you've got a fed then like bitmain asic miners and stuff it's like you're not
gonna get one um they sell out so fast and their
supply is not high enough that a huge percentage of it is people reselling it
or kind of more like back end deals what is that is that temporary
by the time it becomes easy enough for you to buy one
they'll be close enough to the next one that you probably shouldn't
that's that's sort of been the pattern for a long time what i mean
for the industry in the future won't there be
competition there could be two or three people producing these things
we'll see i think a lot of companies are kind of scared about jumping in
because it's such an incredibly volatile market
um that's why it's far future
yeah it's like has to stabilize first we'll see yeah it'll be interesting
and like bitcoin is slightly going back up sort of maybe so i don't know who
knows we'll see i'm into the ether price
that's what i look at every day here we go damn it's almost at 800 us again
yes it's almost at half of what it was what
is what does Jake feel about all this there are other companies
yeah and they're just going to change the algorithms anyway so
yeah what happened with them over there
they changed them like before it mattered but most of the time
bitmain has already been mined no one can hear you three to four months get in
the show get in the show so what he's saying is there is other companies and like yeah i
know we've we've talked about them on on WAN Show before um
and but there's a lot of like what he's saying is by the time these things hit
market even bit main has been mining on them themselves for a long time so like
i don't know the mining space is so it's it's very
it's very messy you have to be like really into it um to
to probably stay on top of the thing is though like this algorithm equihash was
meant to it was like designed to prevent centralization of the mining process
and there's been other cryptocurrencies that
this happened to and then after these asics come out they just like alter the
algorithm so that it it kind of uh nullifies the lead that those asics give
themselves yeah so maybe people right now people don't know if equihash will
do the same thing and then gpus will still be relevant or if there's fork
but either way we won't know until the future and speaking of the future that's
where you'll have to be to see the next WAN Show or to see any more of the wine
show because we're going to leave yes yeah
there's a parallel uniform there's a many worlds hypothesis here where
there's a wancho and a nacho yeah
wow so if you want to see either one of those come back here
in seven days minus one hour and you'll be good to go well
probably not even the minus one hour we were on time today yeah
seven days minus like 20 minutes
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