1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,640 yes hey and uh welcome to the show this is 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:12,320 the lan show the lan show that is or the the gnaw the na show nah nah 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:17,920 what news and analysis weekly news analysis weekly baby it actually totally 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,920 works nah 5 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:24,800 it kind of does that's a w that wins yeah yeah all right went show welcome to 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:29,439 it we're doing some new stuff there's the gpp is no longer a thing news which 7 00:00:27,279 --> 00:00:33,040 i'm sure every single person in the tech community is going to be talking about a 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:37,600 lot boom because there's not a ton else going on so you know we'll we'll take 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:41,520 whatever we can feels like a win too but who actually knows we're going to get 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,960 into that also t-mobile and sprint are trying to 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,480 trying to become one again hug each other a little bit more than they did in 12 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:52,879 the past you know they tried it before yeah they're trying again yeah also dram 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,640 price fixing we've all kind of known it's been kind of ridiculous for a while 14 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:59,760 it's weird how expensive this stuff is so when you're pricing out a computer 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,359 and then you're like whoa that was unexpected anyways i'm looking 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:07,920 at the analytics lately it's bad it's bad yeah that plus 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,600 facebook stuff yeah all that more on the nashow oh 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,840 on the notch i'm chomping at the bit here 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:24,560 who thought of that clinch thing i don't know ed technically 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,200 that's hilarious originally we were gonna have a new one 21 00:01:25,759 --> 00:01:32,159 of these like every week and then i think we made one and then never again 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:36,560 yeah obviously that's that plan which one's you there fresh books 23 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:40,720 the one in the blue sweater because i used to always wear that same sweater 24 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:40,720 the shorter one 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,799 i appreciate your stuff 26 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:55,280 yeah squarespace thank you very much uh my hair changes depending on the 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:02:00,560 season what season are you a redhead weird oh my 28 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:00,560 only in vegas baby 29 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:07,439 ginger luke oh that would be great didn't it be it uh we're going to start 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:11,520 off the show with a folding and buoyant community shout out we have one of those 31 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,760 things yeah i didn't even know what it was oh i 32 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,360 had no idea like i heard i've heard of distributed oh i thought you just didn't 33 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:23,120 know what our team was i had no idea what the folding thing was i got a 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:26,239 message from one of the members of the our folding team who was like can you 35 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:30,640 give us a shout out and i was like what are you what is folding slash boink 36 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,959 what and then i was checking it out i was like oh this is amazing i want to do 37 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:37,920 this i think i might set it up yeah so we have a community on the forum 38 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:42,480 dedicated to folding and blink folding and but boink is more like 39 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:47,920 boint can be a lot of things i know what that is it's friday baby 40 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:51,680 uh bowling at home is a distributed computing project for disease research 41 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:54,879 that simulates protein folding which is why it's called folding at home because 42 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,680 you're folding proteins digitally at home 43 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:04,480 and computational drug design and other types of molecular dynamics it's this 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:08,560 really cool thing and boink can do stuff similar to that or sort of not and this 45 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:14,000 kind of research takes a lot of computing power so that's why it's distributed so you can help out and 46 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:17,840 actually chip away at cancer research or alzheimer's research just by using your 47 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,680 spare compute cycles on your piece of crap pc that's in your storage room like 48 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:25,440 i plan to do or you know those mining machines you don't 49 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:30,720 say you could you could repurpose those to helping cancer if you uh wanted to or 50 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:35,200 you could not you know whatever whatever folds your boat 51 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:42,000 are there foldable boats sensible chuckles uh well 52 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:46,599 if you deflate a boat and then you fold it into the shape of a protein 53 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:52,560 anyways moving on to wait a second these guys all right these people on the 54 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,640 folding team yes you can do this at any point right like you can turn on you can 55 00:03:54,239 --> 00:04:00,560 yeah but they also do these like like bursts yeah do these weeks where 56 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,840 they all try really hard to con to devote as much of their computing power 57 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:08,000 as they can to do it and sometimes it'll be like a competition kind of set up 58 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:11,599 where there's like leaderboards for how different teams are doing yeah yeah so 59 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,879 they'll be like oh like who can make the most this week or whatever and we're 60 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,840 like in the top 20. we do we do pretty good and i've contributed nothing to 61 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:20,639 this let's get it 62 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:26,080 let's get it speaking of uh getting something 63 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,520 no longer are you going to get NVIDIA 64 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,840 gpp oh i thought you were gonna say like get 65 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:35,840 screwed by gpp oh you might you might still get screwed by gpp okay so just to 66 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:40,639 catch up the people who don't know what the NVIDIA GeForce 67 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,360 partner program was it was basically like 68 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:48,320 if you're a partner of NVIDIA like you're eight oh no this guy what are 69 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:52,720 your thoughts quick before you go we won victory is ours you're behind the mic 70 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:59,840 congratulations are in order we did we did win but again back to what it 71 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:05,360 actually is in case you didn't know yeah oh the entire press got together 72 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:09,440 and made this thing not a thing yeah have you read their their oh it's 73 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,800 terrible terrible yeah anyways he doesn't get to talk about it we do so 74 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:17,680 continue let's say you are ASUS and you're you 75 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:23,199 sign up for the NVIDIA gpp 76 00:05:19,919 --> 00:05:25,199 if if you wanted to sell 77 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:28,880 an NVIDIA graphics card um 78 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,240 with your special like rog branding because you're ASUS yeah you couldn't 79 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:38,000 sell any other graphics cards with that branding i don't think that the it stipulates 80 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:41,680 that like hey your existing branding rog you've got to use that for NVIDIA i 81 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,759 think it's up to ASUS to decide what branding they use in theory they could 82 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:49,440 have been like you know what NVIDIA we're going to use our awesome rog 83 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:53,120 branding on the Radeon cards and we're going to make new branding for you that 84 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,720 would so from a company's perspective though that would generally be bad uh 85 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,160 because the majority of the market is NVIDIA purchasers exactly you want to 86 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,000 use your stronger brand for that because you'll make more money exactly so 87 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,360 they're totally cutting out and this mindshare really matters right 88 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:11,039 because what they're forcing and what did actually occur when this 89 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:15,199 program rolled out is that you've got to make new product lines new you've got to 90 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:19,360 fork your brand basically so they made ares uh they this comes at a 91 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:23,440 considerable expense by the way oh yeah they've got a branding marketing they've 92 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:26,960 got to design it they've got to iterate on that then they've got to 93 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,960 actually print boxes get these boxes on the shelves and presumably at this point 94 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:36,400 these companies have already done all of that so now the partner program is 95 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:39,199 cancelled everybody's wondering if aries is going to continue to be a thing or if 96 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:44,720 they're just going to switch back because on the one hand they have the sunk cost on the other hand 97 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:48,639 that brand means nothing to anybody yet yeah so it's better to lean on your 98 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:53,039 existing brand what we don't know is if NVIDIA has remunerated these companies 99 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:56,479 like let's say you sunk billion or millions on rebranding or at least 100 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,240 hundreds of thousands is NVIDIA like did the lawyers set up 101 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,840 anything for this particular case where NVIDIA is gonna be like okay 102 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:09,680 so you guys probably didn't hear that what happened 103 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:17,080 was it the teleprompter class i would go help him 104 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:25,280 are you all right dennis is dead everyone so a glass fell 105 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,720 and shattered into a lot of pieces as we were able to hear from here i guess yeah 106 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:33,599 you guys definitely can hear that we just heard shattering and then dennis going no oh yeah it was very audible 107 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:38,880 yeah anyways sorry we're going to continue here but yeah it's it's unclear this 108 00:07:37,039 --> 00:07:42,560 time whether brands are going to survive uh not not as in like whether ASUS will 109 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,560 survive but it's unclear whether or not aries will survive whether or not NVIDIA 110 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:51,039 will be compensating these brands for the work that they did related to gpp um 111 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:56,080 i i in the like who knows how accurate it was 112 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:01,919 leaks that we got i didn't see any provisions for that because i don't think NVIDIA was expecting to have to 113 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,800 pull back out um but i guess we didn't see the other side of the agreement 114 00:08:03,039 --> 00:08:08,240 either well it would have been what those particular companies lawyers 115 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:13,039 came up with exactly so we didn't see the other side it wouldn't be in the original tof 116 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:17,039 another interesting thing was how they framed the their cancellation so we 117 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:22,479 learned about it through a blog post that NVIDIA yeah and they did not they didn't like 118 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,080 facebook it they didn't go on an apology tour they didn't own what they did oh no 119 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:29,360 instead they're like they framed it thusly you know 120 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:38,240 there's all these rumors and conjecture and myths mistruths around about the 121 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,360 NVIDIA gpp so rather than spending our 122 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,959 energy battling any of this battling misinformation 123 00:08:42,959 --> 00:08:49,040 we're just gonna cancel the program so we can focus on what's important like 124 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,640 building the new technology like as if the gpp and all the backlash was like 125 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,160 draining their resources if all the technical people were quick 126 00:08:54,800 --> 00:09:00,880 working on marketing yeah like the engineers were like i can't focus because everyone hates us this is a pr 127 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:05,360 nightmare this is so brutal 128 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:09,440 oh they didn't yeah it's that that part is so brutal because a lot of the reason 129 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,720 why this has all come to light was because of people i don't remember his 130 00:09:10,959 --> 00:09:15,760 name right now but from the the guy from heart ocp 131 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,839 that that like pushed all this kind of stuff and the rest of the media not just 132 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:23,120 us at all we we probably had a relatively small involvement because i 133 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:28,640 think we just talked about it during when there's other creators that have made dedicated videos and all this kind 134 00:09:25,839 --> 00:09:33,519 of stuff when when oh the na show oh yeah sorry about that yeah a lot of 135 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:37,640 confusion around the name uh but there's been a lot of rebrands 136 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:52,560 each week we have half an hour for when half an hour from now sorry um yeah so 137 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:57,360 it's just all this stuff was brought to light 138 00:09:54,560 --> 00:10:00,399 there was basically nothing from NVIDIA explaining what was going on they 139 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:06,240 they're complaining of getting all the rumors conjecture mistruths 140 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:09,760 go far beyond its intent well maybe better explain its intent i know there 141 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,000 was one post talking about it but it was so whimsical and didn't properly go 142 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,360 through what's actually happening yes total bs they keep focusing on the fact 143 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:21,600 that this is all about transparency for the consumer so the 144 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,640 consumer knows what they're buying they know that they're getting an NVIDIA card 145 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:29,200 and that's the best thing you can get and they want to make sure and it's very obvious and transparent on the packaging 146 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:33,760 that that's what they're getting if that's what it's about then why even 147 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,959 rely on these other brands like rog why don't you just stipulate that they have 148 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:41,040 a big fat green banner that says NVIDIA on it if it's really just about 149 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:45,839 obviously branding they kind of do like i've never i've heard a lot of 150 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:49,040 complaints from new system builders i've helped a lot of people get into building 151 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,720 their computers and one of my big things when i would help friends or family or 152 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:56,320 whoever build a computer was always that i'll be there as like the guiding hand 153 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,440 but i want them to do it yeah i want them to pick the parts i would want them 154 00:10:57,839 --> 00:11:04,000 to build the computer but i could help them with anything and answer whatever 155 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:06,000 questions et cetera eating snacks yeah 156 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:10,399 getting free pop because they would supply supplies for the uh is there 157 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:13,279 gonna be chips and pop that i'm in my hands will be too crummy to help you 158 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:19,120 there's one buddy of mine that i've built two computers for and every time we do he brings a case of vanilla coke 159 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:24,959 i like this deal it's worked out quite well um but it's 160 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:30,320 i've never had a single person be like i don't understand 161 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:34,800 i'm buying rog why is it a AMD thing or whatever like i've never 162 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,720 had that confusion everyone seems to get it 163 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:42,640 so all this hubbub over that seems unlikely 164 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:46,480 it feels like they just wanted to muscle them out of the good brands yeah exactly 165 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:52,160 they know that their market position is such that they're going to be the ones awarded the rog the incumbent existing 166 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:56,640 branding and that AMD is going to be the ones suffering 167 00:11:53,839 --> 00:11:58,959 under the new branding so nice try NVIDIA 168 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:05,600 yeah some evan 33 uh is is spamming contrast 169 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:10,079 in the chat so much that i'm super surprised that he's not banned from the 170 00:12:07,839 --> 00:12:13,839 chat by the bot yet um i don't know if he's talking about contrast in terms of 171 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:18,079 like what this picture look looks like or if he's talking about between the 172 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:21,120 boxes but in my experience it's pretty it's this probably isn't even what he's 173 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:25,519 talking about but in my experience it's pretty easy to differentiate between which one is an NVIDIA card which one is 174 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:30,160 an AMD card no he's definitely talking about the visuals of this 175 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:34,560 yeah this video feed but we don't care yeah man we're gonna make it about 176 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:38,720 graphics cards it's intentional dude this is the new style yeah 177 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,530 low or high contrast or whatever the opposite of whatever you're complaining 178 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:47,760 about that's what you want we don't understand it but whatever 179 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:51,920 uh so yeah i'm not like and i know that a lot of people at 180 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:55,279 NVIDIA and i'm sure they're paying attention to a lot of the press stuff 181 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,800 around this so they might see this section of the show at some point in 182 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:02,560 time guys you got to figure out your public communication you make great 183 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:06,639 graphics cards you have the market share the giant market share i know you're 184 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:10,079 very happy about that but people are kind of pissed off and i know it's very 185 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:16,079 easy for the community i know you guys know this it's very easy for the community to go after the company that 186 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,519 has the lions market share the lion's share of the market it's it's 187 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:24,160 very easy for that to happen that's definitely a non-insignificant amount of 188 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,920 what's going on but especially around gpp the communication was bad 189 00:13:26,959 --> 00:13:33,279 you have to understand that communication was bad and this didn't help 190 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:37,200 with everyone needing to dive in and dig and glean and 191 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:42,639 fight for every little tiny bit of information that they could and for you 192 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:44,399 to come back at it by saying oh yeah 193 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:50,240 there's so many rumors conjecture mistruths are going around everywhere 194 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:52,320 clarify better that's on you man 195 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:56,079 and i know like it got leaked or whatever and that sucks as a company i 196 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:02,000 completely understand that that's super frustrating but at that point in time 197 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:05,360 throwing at other people for that is not gonna help you 198 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:08,880 to try to win everyone else onto your side you need to be open to the 199 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:14,720 community and try to explain what was going on in a not so whimsical and were 200 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:17,279 just fairies on the breeze kind of way because that's obviously not what's 201 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,880 going on give me your opinion on this part a lot of people think that 202 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:24,160 them canceling the program doesn't really amount to much because the damage 203 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:29,959 is already done there's some there's sunk costs 204 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,959 there's these new brands 205 00:14:31,839 --> 00:14:39,040 like back alley or what do you call them back alley deals back-end deals back-end 206 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,920 back-end deals could continue to exist right now 207 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:46,000 just not publicly even name it something else 208 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,760 whatever yeah um because a lot of these big players they 209 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:55,040 sign these agreements so they might just carry forward with them 210 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,680 yeah we'll have to we'll have to see how it goes um 211 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:05,199 we'll we'll have to pay close attention to aries i guess specifically 212 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:10,560 see what ASUS does with that maybe see how ASUS communicates 213 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:10,560 around it i just 214 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:19,279 yeah this line of communication was very 215 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,760 in my opinion sassy 216 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:25,680 seriously though it was it was sassy and it was just it was not what are you 217 00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:29,839 talking about their blog post the cancellation blog post a little sassy 218 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:34,320 yeah and it's it's like yes the community wanted 219 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:37,519 gbp to be pulled but i think even more than that at the core i think people 220 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:43,040 wanted to know what the heck was going on um and i don't think anyone got that 221 00:15:41,199 --> 00:15:47,199 because now it's just gone and we still don't even really know 222 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:51,040 what it like actually was what the actual rules were we're being told that 223 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,440 everything that we knew was rumors conjecture mistruths 224 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:59,279 so we didn't know anything then so what's the truth we still don't know 225 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:03,759 they're saying like oh it was just to like make things more clear okay but we 226 00:16:01,199 --> 00:16:07,199 need more like we have a someone showing us like basically a contract in very 227 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:11,199 clear terms and then you're being like everyone's just supposed to be happy 228 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:15,600 okay and it doesn't work by the way thank you ivan that in no way 229 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:19,920 makes it more clear for everybody that makes it way way way harder to buy a 230 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:24,480 graphics card if i rock up and there's like okay there's gaming there's rs 231 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,440 there's rog there's all that times two 232 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:33,199 for each different one that's way harder that's way harder 233 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:36,560 to figure out the tier of the graphics card i guess 234 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:41,040 because none of those words are like really mean anything no 235 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:44,399 yeah it'd be way better if they if i think 236 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:49,839 it'd be better a better business case for them just to say hey a giant banner 237 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:51,199 that says NVIDIA gtx 1070. well okay 238 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:56,519 like that's what that's people want right let's uh i'm gonna get to the page first 239 00:16:54,160 --> 00:17:02,079 but let's go to amazon.com no 240 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,079 let's go to newegg 241 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:09,199 i switched because of like purchase history and related items and stuff 242 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:14,319 okay did you get a veiny vic don't worry about it boy uh let's go to luke's 243 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,039 screen what is that now spoiled 244 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,160 okay NVIDIA search 245 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:31,200 i guess you don't even see boxes 246 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:37,840 well i mean the name already has and like everything has g-force in it 247 00:17:35,919 --> 00:17:41,520 GeForce gtx the branding is there so that's like the 248 00:17:39,679 --> 00:17:44,480 text equivalent of the like put the banner because that's right at the 249 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:48,240 beginning of all of them well that's another point as as to why this gpp 250 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:52,799 didn't even need to exist because it's already it's already in the name 251 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,840 so i don't buy this whole transparency angle 252 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,640 yeah i don't buy it i wish they would just own it hey we 253 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,480 tried to make a lot of money we tried to make more money we got caught it wasn't 254 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:09,360 you could even be like we thought this was a good idea clearly everyone didn't 255 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:12,799 working a bit yeah i would buy companies do that yeah you should have shut down 256 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,160 all your stores for an afternoon and had some kind of training for all your employees 257 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,320 that's how you signal to the populace 258 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:26,240 man okay anyways i think we've uh beat this topic down and uh left it in a 259 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:31,760 ditch so we can move on to the t-mobile slash 260 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:35,360 sprint merger so you know more about this than i do but they've tried to do 261 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:40,559 this before i know nothing about it um i know i know was it the 262 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,480 ftc that blocked it in the past yeah 263 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:46,799 this is all ft ftc stuff so i believe the ftc was like 264 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,600 we think there's room for four players so no 265 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:53,840 yes that's correct so that would have been under the obama administration and 266 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:58,880 they thought okay there's the market in the u.s could support four major 267 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:02,559 cellular provider services or companies so they thought more is better so it's 268 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:07,360 more competition so we're not going to let you guys merge 269 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,720 that was then things have changed not only is it just a change of 270 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,840 administration and they think that the trump administration will be more 271 00:19:11,919 --> 00:19:17,520 favorable to this merger a lot of it has to do with 5g actually 272 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:23,520 and the us and the and the administration is very serious about 5g 273 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,280 yeah remember that it was trump like 274 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,320 i don't know we want to say unilaterally but he he did that little signal we 275 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,880 should have one more little signature thingy to 276 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:36,720 say that broadcom and qualcomm shouldn't merge right and there's like rationale 277 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:42,559 for that is like qualcomm is instrumental in advancing 5g 278 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:46,880 and there's a big global race to be the country that pioneers 5g the most right 279 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:50,480 now and china and south korea are winning and the us wants to win because 280 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,679 you get lots of benefits from pioneering the technology and the standards lots of 281 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:58,400 job creation ip it was really good for the us to have 282 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:02,320 developed 4g and they want to keep that going 283 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,880 and there i think that with this 284 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:12,559 the new merged company will have a greater ability to pioneer 5g 285 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:17,919 it's it's i think there's an opportunity for t-mobile and sprint to make a really 286 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:21,280 cool name when they merge mobile sprint that's a little motion 287 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:25,120 here but they're just going to be called t-mobile still missed options oh okay 288 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,000 missed opportunity so they're merging but essentially t-mobile is taking over 289 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:33,600 sprint is that kind of the deal and if they're just being called t-mobile i don't think 290 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,320 the name like i don't necessarily think just because the name is still t-mobile 291 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,320 that indicates that they're the big winners but i don't know maybe i think 292 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,840 public eye might come across that way even if it's not actually that way 293 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:46,080 because everyone's calling it t-mobile now 294 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,240 well i don't know enough about it i can't 295 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:56,799 well it's they're not they've just said that they're committed to merging they plan to merge but it's not up to them 296 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:00,159 they still have to the courts still need to approve this 297 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:04,400 yeah and that's going to take a couple months i think um 298 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:07,919 even though i'm not from the states i generally like t-mobile 299 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,120 i've liked how they've done a lot of their campaigns i like the kind of moves 300 00:21:09,919 --> 00:21:14,880 that they've done in the market over the last while so 301 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,880 sounds cool here's a theoretical question 302 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:24,080 every good capitalist likes competition right yeah my question is does more 303 00:21:21,919 --> 00:21:27,520 players mean more competition not necessarily because 304 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:32,400 right now you've got four t-mobile and sprint are numbers three 305 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:33,919 and four yeah they're way smaller at t 306 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,760 and verizon should they merge they'll be about the 307 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:41,440 same size so do you do you think they actually have more of an ability is 308 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:46,320 there more competition when there's three equally sized players 309 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:50,240 then i kind of think probably maybe because i think where the market 310 00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:56,000 probably needs more competition is with the big guys so i would rather there be 311 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:59,039 a fight between three big giants and 312 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,559 please no less than three 313 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:06,880 because we have enough of that problem in our in our own space with AMD and 314 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:09,440 Intel um and AMD and uh NVIDIA but so 315 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:14,000 please no less than three but i like the idea of taking three and four and making 316 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,760 them an actual product like a real yeah exactly against the other two big guys 317 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:22,559 that seems like a good idea to me and even if you can make a fourth as long as 318 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:26,000 all four are the same kind of size when you have four and you have two kind of 319 00:22:24,159 --> 00:22:29,280 smaller ones and two kind of bigger ones there is good competition there because 320 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:35,679 there is competition for the smaller markets and competition for the bigger markets but i don't feel like t-mobile 321 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:39,120 and sprint are going to abandon their places sure so i think it'll be 322 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:44,080 okay they'll have more funds to move up market though yeah 323 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:51,120 speaking of collusion because three-player oligopolies suck 324 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:51,120 dram price fixing yeah good call 325 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:56,559 so the law firm hegen's berman 326 00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:01,600 has filed a class-action lawsuit against samsung micron and hynix i love how 327 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:06,840 every law firm is so obviously a law firm just by the name 328 00:23:04,159 --> 00:23:10,640 i wish that was one person's full name that'd be awesome two there's a lot 329 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:15,919 of people with two first names but not enough with two last names 330 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:20,240 so according to the firm's investigation the three dram manufacturers conspired 331 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:25,280 to limit the supply of dram chips between 2016 and 2017 with the purpose 332 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:31,039 of course of inflating their prices and we've all seen that happen dram saw a 47 333 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:35,280 price increase during 2017 the largest jump ever in the last 30 years and 334 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:37,840 probably ever because before 30 years ago 335 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:46,720 they probably had a b and c RAM but like oh yeah that's ancient stuff 336 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,960 so the complaint has been put forward on behalf of anyone who in the u.s 337 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,480 purchased something containing dram 338 00:23:53,120 --> 00:24:00,400 from one of these three companies from july 1st 2016 through february 1st 2018. 339 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:04,400 the suit claims that after a global decline in the price of 340 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:10,320 RAM chips the three companies began in june of 2016 to deliberately limit their 341 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:12,559 output of dram storage chips 342 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:17,120 but did they have to if they're okay if they're colluding and they want the 343 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:21,120 prices to go up and set it down did they have to do it so hard 344 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:25,520 i mean like it's kind of like they kind of overkill it's pretty pretty 345 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:30,240 suspicious so obvious that's the yeah you think you try to be slightly subtle 346 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,360 let's just get them to climb gradually but depending on the details no man i 347 00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:38,640 want like 400 new cars 348 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:42,000 well okay it's cranking up a lot they're also gonna try to get away with it and 349 00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:45,200 maybe what it takes to get away with it is to be like we literally don't have 350 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:50,640 the capacity to make more so then they have to not build a factory and then they don't 351 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,440 have this factory or they have the a lot of has to do with their process nodes 352 00:24:51,919 --> 00:24:57,760 and stuff too yeah so because they're not scaling how they should and they're like publicly saying to each other that 353 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,440 they're not going to go for scale they're going to go for price per item 354 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:05,919 and whatnot well i hope they get found guilty 355 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:11,039 that'd be interesting that would be pretty world would be more interesting to me that'd be kind of fun if you if 356 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,640 you could charge someone guilty for like your 357 00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:18,400 jerks at running a company oh yeah 358 00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:21,440 like you clearly have the money to build another factory there is clearly the 359 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:26,000 market to build another factory you're not doing it just because you want to be 360 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:30,480 whatever and charge an insane amount of money per chip 361 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:33,279 so you guys suck here's a fine yeah this is kind of where capitalism breaks down 362 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,799 where it's like in theory if they're doing that then there should be room for 363 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:40,400 the for a new entrant in the market but the barriers to entry are so damn so 364 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,679 insanely high the investment's so large and the talent pool is not big enough 365 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:48,799 that they own it it's an oligopoly 366 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:52,400 uh i wouldn't be surprised if these guys were caught 367 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:56,480 like actually guilty because from 1998 to 2002 heineken samsung and micron were 368 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,919 among a group of vendors who would ultimately end up paying a settlement to 369 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:04,720 end complaints that they conspired to rig the price of dram chips so it's not 370 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,320 even the first time this happened 371 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,760 also yeah thank you twitch chat for pointing out the resolution problem i 372 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:14,480 don't know what was going on there i had it set to default resolution and it must 373 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,480 have been on like 64 by 64. not actually but it was pretty freaking bad so i 374 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,440 changed it and we seem to be good now that's i put it that way actually 375 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:25,760 because i have a zip um thanks luke 376 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:29,360 yeah get owned now it is there for the world scene no it was the the resolution 377 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:32,559 of this screen ah so it didn't even have anything to they could already see my 378 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,640 sets yeah yeah it's okay there for the world to see 379 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:41,760 speaking of for the world to see let's do sponsor spots sponsor sponsors 380 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:48,159 yes get money for the world not to see 381 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:52,720 your private in infra infranet your your private internet uh access information 382 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:56,559 animation i meant to say your private information 383 00:26:54,400 --> 00:27:02,000 but i tripped like 18 times trying to get there but anyways pia if you need a 384 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:05,360 vpn uh like my dad did to access his own 385 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,520 website at school that was pretty insane 386 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:12,080 um with the the itunes both ways 387 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,960 he well okay he's a he's a um 388 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:20,799 instructor and the i.t department at school had no idea 389 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,000 why he couldn't access the website so i was like just you know do that 390 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,480 thing and it worked what's his website can we all go to it right now uh that'll 391 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:32,480 probably bring it down um but luke's dad.com 392 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:36,000 yeah let's not i'm actually not gonna tell the domain name because i actually 393 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,600 i'm going to go to lukesdad.com just to see is there a website that's probably 394 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:43,360 owned but not you might want a vpn behind 395 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:47,440 okay yes someone's going to own that it's 396 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:50,799 parked for free courtesy of godaddy it's gonna take almost no time until that's 397 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:55,039 gone yeah your dad's watching this and he's probably buying it up right now 398 00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:01,200 anyways you can connect up to five devices on to your pia account at a time 399 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:06,799 uh they they have apps for for Android and iOS if you need it uh 400 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:10,960 there's apps for Windows macOS literally the notes on here say Linus 401 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:15,679 but i'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Linux but that's that's wonderful um and 402 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,240 google chrome so you can have a plug-in specifically for it so you don't have to 403 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:24,000 have the app installed on the computer if you want it's kind of easy to do it that way um it has an internet kill 404 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:28,960 switch that will block all traffic if the if the vpn becomes disconnected 405 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:32,640 unexpectedly that's quite cool not all vpns have that so if your vpn 406 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:37,840 disconnects for whatever reason it then starts flowing everything through yeah 407 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,720 yeah not vpn and that's not super great 408 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:45,360 that's such a fail uh check it out today at the link that's like below here if 409 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:51,440 you're on twitch i guess just type that out it's not that complicated or if you 410 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,919 are on youtube or soundcloud i guess 411 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:58,159 does anyone listen some people do uh in the description of this thing 412 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,679 whether it's a audio thing or a video thing we'll have a link to pia check it 413 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,720 out it's awesome it's great it does good things and speaking of things that are 414 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:08,240 awesome great and do good things fresh books 415 00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:12,240 if you're if you're trying to run a company and you need to invoice people 416 00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:17,440 for whatever reason you can do that super fast super simple no big deal 417 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:21,919 invoices to your customer you can check to see if they have seen that said 418 00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:27,520 invoice so you can bug them about it um and green you can collect your money you 419 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:33,200 can also do expenses through the app which is super cool it keeps track of 420 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:34,320 who owes you what it keeps track of uh 421 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:39,039 how much you've spent on different things which is really cool we used it in a scrapbook horse and it's actually 422 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:44,240 quite helpful if you have any questions you can reach out to an actual person 423 00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:47,600 there's no escalations there's no return calls they just pick up and and solve 424 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:53,039 your problem there isn't even a phone tree you're just like hey what's up i need help and they're like yeah i got 425 00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:56,480 you no problem it's pretty simple i'm sure that's exactly how they do it 426 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:04,799 and next up we have squarespace squarespace is a a website that you use 427 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:08,720 to make other websites it's it's like website section it's wonderful uh it has 428 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,120 a replicator it's 12 bucks a month if you subscribe 429 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:17,279 for a year you get a domain with it because that kind of makes sense so you 430 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:21,200 can go to one place get a domain and a website you can build your website 431 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:25,039 really easily even if you have no idea what building website even means you can 432 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,240 do it no problem on squarespace because they give you this like beautiful 433 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:31,679 template you just put in like words and pictures and it's like oh 434 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:35,520 if you think building's hard you're not gonna sweat there's no manual 435 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:39,760 labor yeah no i mean it's manual in the sense that you need to use your hands 436 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,679 you need to type and click 437 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:46,159 that might be semi-problematic you could use a voice to connect yeah 438 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:49,679 and you might not be able to do a clicking thing some other way 439 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:04,720 yeah for if you're like partially disabled in some way you can scroll with your tongue 440 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:07,919 i'm not sure how it works there was a kid in my school and he showed me how 441 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,919 his worked and it was actually really cool uh 442 00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:17,360 but that was a long time ago and i'm sure it's advanced since then so yeah 443 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:22,720 anyways you can use offer code alt uh go to squarespace.com forward slash LTT and 444 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:24,720 use offer code LTT to get 10 off your 445 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,080 first purchase so you have a website and domain and all that fun stuff what if 446 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:31,919 someone followed your advice right then went to 447 00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:36,480 squarespace and the free domain they got was loosedad.com 448 00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:39,600 and then they made all of this tonight do it you could that's kind of the cool 449 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:43,039 thing it's so fast you could actually have it done for tonight oh easily it's 450 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:51,559 pretty neato um and then i don't have a lower banner for this but also 451 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:54,480 uh check out uh ltx 2018 at 452 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:58,799 ltxbow.com and i realize that the x in ltx stands for expo and then we also say 453 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,399 expo um so 454 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:07,760 just don't worry about that too much ltx expo.com check it out no it means 455 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:11,039 exploration like spacex oh 456 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,840 Linus tech exploration explore us come 457 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:18,240 and explore us it's gonna be lit this year i got some things up my sleeve oh 458 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:23,600 my i'm just gonna be there i guess it's gonna be bonanza not not too crazy um 459 00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:27,760 also check out Floatplane that's like what i 460 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:31,039 do and stuff it's it's pretty cool i like it it's it's like neato and slow 461 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,440 plane i'm gonna get us logged in so we can see what's going on 462 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:43,840 hold on there we go we have like creators oh 463 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,240 wrong one we have creators on the platform and stuff so you can check out 464 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:52,480 uh linustechtips who's apparently uploaded a whole bunch of videos 465 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:56,720 including keyboard history good job by the way who did that one 466 00:32:54,799 --> 00:33:01,279 who did that one i didn't call my video that what is that well that okay history 467 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:06,320 of the computer keyboard is that a Techquickie 468 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,320 who works here 469 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:13,279 that might be a tech wiki maybe we'll see uh not now though there's also other 470 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,440 stuff from lions tech tips there's stuff from bitwit ultra if you subscribe to 471 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:21,679 him there's stuff from tech deals if you subscribe to them it's cool it's a 472 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,919 platform that has different people that you can subscribe to see their videos 473 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:30,080 that's a try it's a tech cookie ah nice we have we have a confirmation dennis um 474 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:34,559 and you can watch their videos in glorious uh really high bit rate and 475 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,919 really nice sound quality and a private nice little comment section so you don't 476 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:42,480 have to deal with the drivel that's on youtube yeah and it has a thumbs down button it does 477 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:47,120 so you can be like in the comments you're dumb 478 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:50,480 other humans get used to it's the real world virtually 479 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,320 don't say this out loud but look at that i'm gonna buy that 480 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,279 i love that i'm gonna make it into something cool 481 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,320 you know you know one of my favorite domains that we have that we have to do 482 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,960 something with but we don't know what yet it's 483 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:11,440 we've adequatevideoservice.com thinking about using it for like our back end or something but 484 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,560 yeah it's just so funny it's funny little joke don't worry about it 485 00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:17,760 too much you could use that for april fools maybe 486 00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:23,679 that'll be funny like redirecting the whole thing warranty void stickers we have an update 487 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:27,359 that's exciting i've been excited by this for a little while i'm gonna last i 488 00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:32,320 think i was on here last time we talked about it like two or three weeks ago that we talked about it together and at 489 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,879 the time one quick thing someone asked is there a Floatplane free trial there will be 490 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:41,119 there isn't yet um we're currently in like still like an 491 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,879 alpha e kind of stage so once we properly release there will be the day 492 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:48,960 there's a free trial is the day i use it for the first time 493 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:52,079 that's not true i'm just yes i was on there today i was like you have 494 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:55,040 to i have no choice rip 495 00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:01,280 uh so okay per u.s law no warranty or 496 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:04,720 product sold for over five bucks can put any restrictions on repairs who does the 497 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:11,599 repairing you can't have a sticker on your product that says if you break this sticker or your voice 498 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,839 your your voice ward that happened last time 499 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,800 one of us said you're going to use ward last time anyway it's still true today 500 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:24,800 your voice will be ward if you 501 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:28,720 use a third party repair service at least that's what they say but that's 502 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,280 actually illegal in the u.s and what we learned last time when the news broke is 503 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:37,440 that is it the ftc they issued yes it is they 504 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,720 issued letters to six big companies we 505 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,560 didn't know who the companies were but they they were like look guys younos has 506 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:47,119 been illegal since the 70s we're about to crack the whip crack down on it yeah 507 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:52,960 and guess what now we know who those companies were hit me with them luke sony microsoft 508 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,800 nintendo wow 509 00:35:55,119 --> 00:36:01,359 what competition it's like all the console people it's interesting 510 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:05,440 um also i don't understand the five dollar thing 511 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:12,560 why are you allowed to put restrictions on repairs for things under five dollars 512 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,640 that's so weird i think it's um 513 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,680 it's probably a bundle like this one sentence that we're our claws that we're 514 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,920 focused on in the context of this article is a part of a larger bundle and 515 00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:24,160 to attribute that whole bundle to items that are cheaper than five bucks would 516 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:30,160 just be too much work and it would probably like inhibit people from starting cheapy little businesses okay 517 00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:33,520 sure that's my speculation why not it's just such a weird like 518 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,680 what's even under five dollars that you would take to a repair shop fidget 519 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:40,640 spinner grease that puppy up it just doesn't spin anymore 520 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,480 a quarter turns all i get i just need some wd-40 but i don't want to spray it 521 00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:50,320 on myself don't worry about it uh yeah hanging on 522 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,079 a little hook so anyway 523 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,280 it got very specific that's about it for that story honestly 524 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:01,119 the companies have 30 days to revise there's been uh online you can see a 525 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,040 kind of a more generic version of the letter um 526 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:09,119 but each company did receive a customized tailored letter specifically 527 00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:12,240 outlining the prop the offending product so in the case of microsoft it was the 528 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,320 xbox consoles that had these um 529 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:20,640 these stickers on them and they're not just it's not just about repairs it also 530 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:25,760 says something about third-party um like accessories as well oh 531 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:28,720 interesting yes it's it's microsoft's actually in a pretty good 532 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:33,119 spot for that because while their surface notebooks have like notoriously 533 00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:37,520 been terrifying to try to work on because 534 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:42,320 like the terra cotta and like all this other kind of stuff uh the xbox one x 535 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,920 you're talking about you're talking when you said terra cotta you're talking about that like uh yeah well sorry is it 536 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:51,920 called something is like uh like that's play that's on like yeah okay so what is that called 537 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:57,040 i don't know i think it's terra or something it has a weird name what is it 538 00:37:54,640 --> 00:38:00,560 alcantara there we go alcantara yeah yeah thank you now that people are in 539 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,280 their cars we can stop so you ever been listening 540 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:07,920 to a podcast while you're driving you're just like 541 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:12,400 yeah yeah yeah so is that is that is that what the like the soldiers are made 542 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:17,200 out of the like huge amount of uh terracotta army yeah ah yeah yes so 543 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,960 that's where i played too much civ apparently um 544 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:24,400 anyways where am i going with this the xbox one x is actually kind of 545 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:29,280 wonderfully easy to uh take apart and put back together 546 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:33,400 terracotta yeah there it is it's a type of earthenware hmm 547 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:44,560 who knows where all right that's where the show is going 548 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:48,160 so yeah this this is good i'm very happy about this we'll have to see what 549 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:53,119 actually comes of it hopefully it means that my switch is still good to go even 550 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:58,240 though i have turned it into a purple thing instead of a black thing 551 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,280 so that's cool um moving on is this your 552 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:03,839 thing what thing this topic no oh 553 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:09,760 oh so sort of actually microsoft was an expert 554 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,359 witness no i don't read that part what it was like click on the click on the 555 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:16,880 forum link that came to us from gemini jay oh one 556 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,599 this possibly three oh man this is 557 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,480 ah this is long uh and i can't share it on my screen because i'm logged into the 558 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:30,400 thing well let's just skip it are you a fan of this guy 559 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,359 are you fans not particularly do you want to talk about that we can i'd i'm 560 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,160 not i've read it but 561 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,839 i don't know i don't really know the guy okay how about this you know what we're 562 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,400 gonna go let's cruise right into facebook sure there's two facebook-ish things today 563 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,880 uh number one at f8 which is their developer 564 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:58,160 conference which is happening right around now they announced that they plan to create 565 00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:00,400 a clear history tool so 566 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:04,880 this feature will enable you to see the websites and apps that send facebook 567 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,760 information when you use them it'll enable you to delete this information 568 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:12,240 from your account and turn off facebook's ability to store that information 569 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,839 associated with your account going forward 570 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:22,079 they will still provide apps and websites with aggregated analytics 571 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:24,160 that's anonymous anonymized 572 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:27,680 and this tool won't be launching for a few months they gotta build it and test 573 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:31,280 it and apparently they're they're sitting down having town hall 574 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,480 meetings with security experts around the us and all that kind of stuff do you 575 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:37,520 think this would be a cool tool that you would use do you even use facebook 576 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,599 uh i have one the only things i use i don't 577 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,440 want to say once i have once i've fully deleted my 578 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:49,119 account like four times oh you want to um i also didn't create you make a 579 00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:53,760 facebook status before installation be like hey guys i'm 580 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,040 getting off facebook no i just disappeared into the ether 581 00:40:55,359 --> 00:41:00,960 without telling anybody every single time uh i didn't even create my original 582 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:06,400 facebook account uh one of my friends apparently i guess thank you jesse by 583 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:08,079 the way a real name um uh created a 584 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:12,640 facebook account under my name and then gave me the login and was like start 585 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:18,000 using this and i was like okay hook everything up to it yeah your data is 586 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,960 gone goodbye uh yeah so i've never been 587 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,079 a huge fan of it uh now i use it for the messenger portion because basically 588 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,839 everyone's on there so if you need to contact someone it's usually what an 589 00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:32,480 Android thing would be work to do yeah yeah basically yeah i do the same um and 590 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,359 then i use groups a little bit i've got two groups on there that i'm fairly 591 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:40,160 active in one of them one for sharing music 592 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:44,960 and one for talking about nerdy things with my high school friends you care 593 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,960 about music yeah yeah 594 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:52,560 talk about this later okay yeah sounds good i can just invite you to the group 595 00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:56,079 oh we're all plebs he's above us so you can't yeah you can't you can't join the 596 00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:00,839 music sharing group uh so yeah i don't know that's cool there's been other 597 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:05,920 stuff that's come out of 598 00:42:00,839 --> 00:42:05,920 uh f8 f8 makes way more sense um 599 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:11,760 wow that's fantastic uh but apparently they're gonna do a 600 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:14,640 dating app i don't know if i don't think we talked about that last week oh i 601 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:18,160 haven't heard that facebook dating app yeah let me let me just google this live 602 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,440 on the show dating app 603 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:26,079 interesting first met no 604 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,640 facebook dating looks a lot like hinge facebook is taking on tinder with new 605 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:35,119 dating features i wonder if they all cut off tinder from their login with 606 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:39,839 facebook no they couldn't kind of doubt it they couldn't yeah facebook is an 607 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:45,520 integral part of tinder yeah so yeah new dating app amid all of the 608 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:49,119 crazy privacy stuff they are directly planning on making a dating app and it's 609 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:53,760 interesting because they're they've straight up called out that it will not 610 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:57,520 be designed around hookups at all uh that's not for you to decide yeah i 611 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:02,640 know but they're they're pushing it to not be that way it will not ever connect 612 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,480 you with a friend uh facebook friend yes 613 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:10,560 okay so part of the idea is that it pushes you to new people that's cool and 614 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,000 it will like keep even the idea that you're on it away from your friends 615 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:20,319 oh interesting so it's supposed to be private away from your friends that you're on this thing give us your data 616 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,160 and we'll give you a date yeah yeah and 617 00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:26,560 a big part of it is this section they're talking about conversation starters so 618 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,599 they'll they'll try to have like events that are happening around you and 619 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,800 they'll try to use groups and things that you're both interested in to try to 620 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:37,440 come up with something for you guys to do uh that is hopefully interesting yeah 621 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:43,359 that's cool uh one problem with uh the way 622 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:46,720 particularly tinder works is like you know the first stage of tinder is 623 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:51,599 like hey you think i'm hot i think you're hot so we got that so like boom 624 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:56,480 that mystery solved but then now you're just in an empty chat and like what do 625 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,920 we talk about yeah where did you start so that actually might this actually 626 00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:03,200 might help with that a lot i've been on the dating scene in a long time but i 627 00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:07,599 just having something that's like hey we're both interested in this thing but 628 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:13,040 without having to go through the monotony of like reading through a basically resume yeah giant profile yeah 629 00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:18,400 we need something in the middle here yeah that's that's a that's an interesting idea it's just kind of 630 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:23,040 funny that they're bringing this up at the time while they're having all these privacy issues but at the same time 631 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,920 despite all the privacy issues basically no one's leaving facebook 632 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,800 so it's probably fine related to that uh 633 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:35,760 because of the privacy things facebook is revisiting 634 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:40,319 the possibility of having a subscription model not it would be an option it's an 635 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,880 option okay okay just want to say this loud and clear facebook's not going to 636 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:49,599 be like hey you want to keep your facebook account five bucks a month 50 bucks a month 637 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,200 oh ad free okay it would be an ad free subscription model and i i think it 638 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:56,640 means you're going to be giving up a lot less data too so they looked into this 639 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,760 in the past and then internally basically everyone's like i 640 00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:02,800 don't think that's going to work so they didn't bother doing it but now 641 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,720 they think the client has changed enough that enough people who are 642 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:10,960 who are considering leaving facebook because of 643 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:14,480 data and ads might say well it's worth it to me just 644 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,200 to stay if they get rid of ads and they don't 645 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:21,680 scrape i could be interested in this see i don't know i might even use 646 00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:25,119 facebook more really this is really interesting to me 647 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:29,280 because one of the the questions here is like 648 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:33,359 would would the spur more people to join uh hell no in my opinion no not a chance 649 00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:37,119 i don't think all it would do is retain existing 650 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:41,119 customers yeah i don't think there was going to be anyone who's like whoa whit 651 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,880 it's subscription model now i'm in i think technically there will technically 652 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,720 be some of those people but i think it it'll be such an insignificant amount 653 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:52,400 that it just won't matter it'll be the same number of people who 654 00:45:50,319 --> 00:45:56,000 like want to pay with gold doubloons instead of us 655 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,880 dollars yeah like it's going to be they're out 656 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:03,920 there it's a really small amount of people but i think it will definitely 657 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,880 increase again a very small percentage of people but probably a bigger one than 658 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:11,280 we were just talking about people like me to use it a little bit more um i 659 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,599 don't like ads but i also don't like running ad blocker because kind of you 660 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,720 know we do a thing on the internet and when you do things on the internet ad 661 00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:25,280 blocker has the potential of taking away all of your money it doesn't for us obviously um but i i do feel 662 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:31,599 like i don't know i don't want to get into the ad blocker thing because the entire internet just gets super pissed 663 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:35,920 if you ever talk about it but anyways i don't run an ad blocker so i prefer 664 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,640 neither do i i prefer to you can do whatever you want i'm not i'm you can do 665 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:44,880 whatever you want unless you want to be cool uh but and people are like uh yeah no i 666 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:49,599 actually haven't gotten around to it i'm just lazy i don't know 667 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:53,440 uh but yeah i would rather pay a website and not have to see ads 668 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:57,440 i liked that about twitch you could get twitch turbo 669 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,079 now just everyone's amazon prime i would have called it turbo 670 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:04,800 turbo then you could have a little like mascot for it 671 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:10,240 it's turbo that's actually pretty cute the twerking 672 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:12,880 robot oh okay not cute that's just gebo 673 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:18,079 no where's rancho going this is the nashville it's a parallel universe 674 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,680 okay so two topics left which one do you like 675 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:25,839 let's do both we have why not both 12 minutes they're 676 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,400 both kind of uh hp printer firmware breaches 677 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:34,160 australian consumer laws i have no idea what's going on take it away 678 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,480 uh okay so 679 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:42,960 i'll join you in a moment i think this began yeah in the fall of 2016 hp sold a 680 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:45,920 bunch of printers or updated a bunch of existing printers 681 00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:50,160 in australia without telling consumers that 682 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:54,160 their software in these in these printers or in the firmware 683 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:59,599 that is going to limit you from using third-party ink cartridges 684 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:04,640 and that's illegal in australia so 685 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,319 now they're in trouble and get this 686 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,920 hp is offering consumers who were prevented from using a non-hp cartridge 687 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:15,680 compensation of fifty dollars if you more than two thousand customers 688 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:19,680 suffered under this uh under this software and if they each get their 689 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:24,079 fifty dollars that's gonna cost hp hold on to your tits a hundred thousand 690 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:27,440 dollars hp is like 691 00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:31,119 wait how much oh okay great it's like that's seen in awesome powers where he's 692 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,480 like a million dollars and they all start laughing yeah 693 00:48:32,839 --> 00:48:38,319 fine yeah i was worth a shot 694 00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:45,440 no problem they probably got way more sales of ink than that hundred thousand 695 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:51,119 dollars yeah that's that's really not a lot um 696 00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:53,680 especially because not all the consumers are going to even 697 00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:58,240 claim this no the laziness will prevail in a lot of 698 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,520 these kind of situations it's like it's like the idea behind like why are there 699 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,720 still mail-in rebates why isn't it just automatically taken off at the till at 700 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:09,760 first because you're probably not going to mail it in heck no especially now god even in the 701 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:14,559 even when snail mail was just called mail i wouldn't do that yeah yeah and 702 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:18,240 most people wouldn't so the the discount actually becomes when you when you do 703 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,760 the math on your end it's not ten dollars off every single item that you 704 00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:26,960 sell it's ten dollars off like actually a pretty small portion but you will 705 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:30,000 probably send sell more because you can post the price as being lower because 706 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:35,920 you're like it's lowered because of mail and rebate but then no one does it anyways stupid stuff but genius yeah so 707 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:40,559 it's not even gonna be close to a hundred thousand how much is a new like 708 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:43,839 proprietary hp ink cartridge i don't know 100 bucks 709 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,240 i let's it really depends on uh 710 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,200 i wish i had the model number the printer here 711 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,559 25 36 712 00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,559 that's the thing it really depends on what printer it is because like this hp 713 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:04,000 61 thing and like this one 714 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,520 but then like the laserjet ones more but they said ink cartridge so it's not that 715 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:10,960 okay i don't know it really depends on what 716 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:14,480 cartridge it is well all i'm going to say is even if 717 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:20,559 like half the people affected just bought ink then they've already paid for the whole 718 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,760 scandal so in australia about 60 bucks a cartridge apparently 60 australian 719 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:29,839 yeah that'll be like i think it's stronger than canadian peso 720 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:32,880 but like not as strong as the u.s someone just gave me the price per 721 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,760 pallet that's that's cool but no exactly not 722 00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:42,480 particularly helpful at the moment um 723 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:45,119 one more topic yeah okay let's move on 724 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:49,359 uh mining it was hard and uh now it's gonna be harder new 725 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:53,200 bitmain asic miners or easier depending on how you approach it 726 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:58,400 yeah it's harder for the average show yeah easier to actually get done harder 727 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,680 for your average these the uh bitcain 728 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,680 bitmain asic miners 729 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:10,640 uh and it's it smashes GPU performance we've got crypto mining hardware blah 730 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:17,680 blah blah blah for 2 000 it can perform as well as 15 1080 ti gpus at a mere 300 731 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,400 watts equihash is the algorithm used by zcash 732 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:26,960 zencash bitcoin gold bitcoin z bitcoin private komodo z classic and i believe 733 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:33,280 potentially even more um so what this means is that 734 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:37,440 it's so much more efficient to use this uh what they call an asic an application 735 00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:41,760 specific integrated circuit a specialized computer it's so much more 736 00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:45,119 efficient to use that than just use a regular off-the-shelf GPU 737 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:52,079 that it brings a concern about how decentralized and free 738 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:56,480 the uh cryptocurrency is now because in the utopian world that 739 00:51:54,079 --> 00:52:00,240 we enthusiasts dream about anyone can can support the network 740 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:05,040 anyone can be a node in the network because you can just use an off-the-shelf GPU that you probably have 741 00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:08,880 in your computer anyway once there's a specialized machine that's sold by one 742 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,880 company then there's 743 00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:16,400 then it's centralized basically it's not and the thing is with these it's like 744 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,920 you've got a fed then like bitmain asic miners and stuff it's like you're not 745 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:25,520 gonna get one um they sell out so fast and their 746 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:29,839 supply is not high enough that a huge percentage of it is people reselling it 747 00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:35,440 or kind of more like back end deals what is that is that temporary 748 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:39,119 by the time it becomes easy enough for you to buy one 749 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:42,559 they'll be close enough to the next one that you probably shouldn't 750 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:46,559 that's that's sort of been the pattern for a long time what i mean 751 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:49,119 for the industry in the future won't there be 752 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:54,480 competition there could be two or three people producing these things 753 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:58,960 we'll see i think a lot of companies are kind of scared about jumping in 754 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,599 because it's such an incredibly volatile market 755 00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:04,960 um that's why it's far future 756 00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:10,319 yeah it's like has to stabilize first we'll see yeah it'll be interesting 757 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:14,960 and like bitcoin is slightly going back up sort of maybe so i don't know who 758 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:18,559 knows we'll see i'm into the ether price 759 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,440 that's what i look at every day here we go damn it's almost at 800 us again 760 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:28,480 yes it's almost at half of what it was what 761 00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:31,680 is what does Jake feel about all this there are other companies 762 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:36,559 yeah and they're just going to change the algorithms anyway so 763 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,319 yeah what happened with them over there 764 00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:42,240 they changed them like before it mattered but most of the time 765 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,040 bitmain has already been mined no one can hear you three to four months get in 766 00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:50,079 the show get in the show so what he's saying is there is other companies and like yeah i 767 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:54,480 know we've we've talked about them on on WAN Show before um 768 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:58,240 and but there's a lot of like what he's saying is by the time these things hit 769 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:02,960 market even bit main has been mining on them themselves for a long time so like 770 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:06,079 i don't know the mining space is so it's it's very 771 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:10,160 it's very messy you have to be like really into it um to 772 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,480 to probably stay on top of the thing is though like this algorithm equihash was 773 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:18,559 meant to it was like designed to prevent centralization of the mining process 774 00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:22,160 and there's been other cryptocurrencies that 775 00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:26,640 this happened to and then after these asics come out they just like alter the 776 00:54:23,839 --> 00:54:31,920 algorithm so that it it kind of uh nullifies the lead that those asics give 777 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:35,040 themselves yeah so maybe people right now people don't know if equihash will 778 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:40,880 do the same thing and then gpus will still be relevant or if there's fork 779 00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:44,319 but either way we won't know until the future and speaking of the future that's 780 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,680 where you'll have to be to see the next WAN Show or to see any more of the wine 781 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:50,960 show because we're going to leave yes yeah 782 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:56,160 there's a parallel uniform there's a many worlds hypothesis here where 783 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:58,000 there's a wancho and a nacho yeah 784 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:02,800 wow so if you want to see either one of those come back here 785 00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:06,079 in seven days minus one hour and you'll be good to go well 786 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:11,920 probably not even the minus one hour we were on time today yeah 787 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,480 seven days minus like 20 minutes 788 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,720 anyways guys goodbye play the intro oh no 789 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:26,160 okay we're good clench harder 790 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:33,280 okay which one am i uh this one i'm the couch yes perfect 791 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:39,559 i'm that little companion cube on the couch that lion's just put up his butt 792 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,559 yay squarespace 793 00:55:40,839 --> 00:55:46,240 box no private internet access 794 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:49,680 and you want to do it again no i thought i missed it that's why i did it okay 795 00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:53,799 there we go fresh box thank you very much we'll see you next time