WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.920 for just ten dollars this tub of goop 00:00:03.280 --> 00:00:09.360 can give you more FPS oh at least it can according to computer systems who made 00:00:07.680 --> 00:00:15.120 it to put their claims to the test we're gonna be removing the stock thermal pads 00:00:11.360 --> 00:00:17.359 from an x-17 and a 30-90 applying this 00:00:15.120 --> 00:00:21.520 goop and reassembling it all to see how much improvement we can get is it worth 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:25.039 what i'm sure will be a huge mess i don't know but i am sure i want to tell 00:00:23.279 --> 00:00:28.640 you about our sponsor glasswire lets you see past and present network activity 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:32.480 detect malware on your pc or Android device and block its connections to 00:00:30.880 --> 00:00:38.120 prevent things from getting worse use offer code Linus to get 25 off at the 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:38.120 link down below 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:51.920 there are kind of two types of weird thermal things that we find the first is 00:00:50.239 --> 00:00:56.719 someone realizes gamers have a lot of money and they want that money and the 00:00:54.480 --> 00:01:01.760 second is someone has a use case in industry and they find it after the fact 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:06.080 it's good for gamers this fortunately is in the latter group k5 pro came about 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:09.439 because the founders were just working at a computer repair shop they were 00:01:07.520 --> 00:01:13.200 having a lot of issues with devices coming back to them and they realized 00:01:11.600 --> 00:01:18.240 that a lot of the time the problem were just old worn out thermal pads a thermal 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:21.840 pad is a specific thickness like this one right here is one millimeter so they 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:26.880 would have to go in measure it and if you get it wrong your 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:31.280 device overheats and it does now it just so happens that they also were working 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:35.439 at a university so they did the thing you do when you work in a university the 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:41.280 result of all of their rnd is this right here k5 pro it's a goop instead of a pad 00:01:38.720 --> 00:01:46.079 so they can just slop it in and apparently it's way more conductive than 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:50.159 a thermal pad as well and can have performance gains in like you know 00:01:48.240 --> 00:01:54.479 something like this right here our test today is pretty simple first we're going 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:58.719 to just run them stock find out you know baseline numbers then replace the 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:02.560 thermal paste with thermal grizzly cryonaut from there we're going to tear 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:06.799 it apart again replace the thermal pads with k5 pro 00:02:04.399 --> 00:02:10.479 and cryonot to find out basically the maximum performance of these things with 00:02:08.640 --> 00:02:16.560 their current coolers we're going to use furmark f1 2020 and 3dmark to hopefully 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:20.319 give us a good range of stuff and i'm gonna go eat some lunch and see in 15 00:02:18.239 --> 00:02:25.440 minutes first round of tests are nearly done laptops all good GPU still needs to 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:29.680 run 3d mark once but then we're totally good you look at our 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:35.200 results here the longer the firmware goes the GPU just slowly gets slower and 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:40.959 slower and slower are you excited for tearing this laptop apart yeah now i was 00:02:38.160 --> 00:02:44.720 a bit of a dum-dum and decided to use the alienware x17 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:49.040 and like i want to do that because it's really fast and 00:02:46.720 --> 00:02:53.120 i like it as a laptop but doing this was really stupid because the disassembly 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:57.760 process it's not easy this is not a simple laptop to take apart good job 00:02:55.519 --> 00:03:02.959 alex smart thinking everything that you need like ssds battery 00:03:00.239 --> 00:03:06.239 RAM is all pretty easy to access cooler not so much it's on the other side of 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:08.879 this do you like taking laptops apart david 00:03:07.519 --> 00:03:12.080 not even a little battery first 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:16.159 people always get really mad at me when i don't do that you might be wondering 00:03:14.239 --> 00:03:20.400 given how much of a pain in the ass this is to disassemble why i choose to use it 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:24.879 the main reason is that most of our other really fast laptops are from ASUS 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:29.680 and ASUS uses thermal paste on their vrm's instead of thermal pads which 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:32.879 means switching it to k5 pro isn't really going to give you much of a 00:03:31.040 --> 00:03:35.920 benefit what do you think the chances are that there's a random cable on the 00:03:34.239 --> 00:03:38.959 bottom that i need to disconnect david pretty good wow 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:43.440 okay wow that's a lot of cooling 17 CPU 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:48.640 barrier wait so it looks like that we have 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:51.680 liquid metal on the CPU but the GPU is 00:03:48.640 --> 00:03:54.239 just regular everyday thermal paste so 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:58.400 do we replace the liquid metal david i kind of feel like we should okay you do 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:02.560 it oh spread around liquid metal a piece of crap now we just have to put it back 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:05.519 together and hope it all works here we go 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:09.280 might have got a little bit of liquid metal on there 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:14.560 yeah perfect she works good now 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:19.359 we get to take apart a GPU i really hope that ASUS made this easy 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:24.160 to disassemble with them it's normally kind of a toss-up with the gpus while we 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:28.400 take apart the GPU let's get the laptop on the go initial looks seems very close 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:33.919 to stock oh these are the guys where we'll probably 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:37.360 get a lot of benefit from it getting replaced 00:04:35.520 --> 00:04:39.759 this screw is basically stripped from the factory that's going to make getting 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:46.000 it back in a joy oh i hate doing this so much oh 00:04:43.840 --> 00:04:46.000 no 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:55.280 one thing that's worth noting is that on cards and particularly motherboards the 00:04:52.560 --> 00:05:00.080 really high end models with really high-end vrms might benefit less from k5 00:04:59.280 --> 00:05:06.320 pro than a lower end model because these right here are probably very efficient 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:11.360 and kept quite cool by all of this heatsink 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:15.440 all right GPU re-paste was a success laptop also looks like it's doing pretty 00:05:13.840 --> 00:05:19.840 good yeah it's not even thermal throttling on the CPU so i guess our 00:05:17.919 --> 00:05:25.520 liquid metalling is better than alienwares see in another 30 minutes 00:05:23.520 --> 00:05:30.000 my first impressions are it's pretty much margin of error between the two 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:33.680 thermal pastes i mean dell did a great job and so did ASUS i'm not super 00:05:32.080 --> 00:05:37.039 surprised given that these are incredibly high-end devices 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:44.160 now the fun begins um and off the second time cooler comes 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:50.639 off get rid of these stupid little thermal pads one millimeter up to about 00:05:47.520 --> 00:05:52.960 three millimeters it still is good 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:58.400 above that what you want to do is have like a paste copper shim and then 00:05:56.400 --> 00:06:03.759 paste again yeah thermodynamics is freaking weird i'm going to start just 00:06:00.400 --> 00:06:05.360 applying this as we go you cannot really 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:10.880 have too much oh this is making a mess although that's a 00:06:08.960 --> 00:06:14.880 good thing if you have too much of it it's going to squish out and you'll be 00:06:13.039 --> 00:06:18.240 fine if you don't have enough of it you'll have an air gap 00:06:16.479 --> 00:06:23.840 and your components are going to overheat and die the other benefit is 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:28.880 that it can actually stop condensation from forming now why should this stuff 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:33.199 be better than a thermal pad this copper although it may look fairly smooth on a 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:37.199 microscopic level is a whole bunch of little hills and valleys and crap and 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:42.720 that's what your thermal interface needs to get rid of a thermal pad gets you 00:06:39.520 --> 00:06:46.639 about 60 percent contact on the surface 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:48.800 whereas the k5 pro is able to fill in 99 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:51.759 of all those hills and valleys oh my god 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:57.599 beautiful isn't it one thing you might be wondering looking 00:06:56.479 --> 00:07:03.199 at this is how do you get rid of it when i asked 00:07:00.880 --> 00:07:06.479 computer systems about it they were kind of like why would you 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:12.880 it just works it's incredibly stable why would you ever replace it but apparently 00:07:11.039 --> 00:07:17.199 if you just soak it in alcohol for a bit you can wipe it off and it's not too bad 00:07:15.039 --> 00:07:21.120 how much squish do you expect david yeah i'm hoping for a lot of squish 00:07:19.039 --> 00:07:24.720 oh bit of smoosh there we're just protecting our components i 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:30.800 was expecting this to be way grosser looking we used under a tub of the stuff 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:37.680 for the laptop given we have a bunch of two millimeter ones on here we're gonna 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:37.680 need quite a bit for this GPU 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:48.240 it's so goopy oh geez i will not let you down computer systems 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:52.879 it is really important on chips like this that you cover the entire thing 00:07:50.960 --> 00:07:57.039 because there probably isn't much temperature sensing besides maybe a 00:07:54.720 --> 00:08:01.440 single probe in this so if you miss half of it it might overheat and not even 00:07:59.440 --> 00:08:05.680 know that it's overheating and kill itself oh 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:08.960 they can't say i didn't use enough tub number three 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:14.879 oh i'm having a lot of fun but this may be disturbing to some viewers 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:18.800 where would you rank this on like the tech gore you've seen david oh six out 00:08:16.960 --> 00:08:22.479 of ten now all we have to do is run the tests this is going to be a bit more 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:27.199 involved figuring out if it worked or not because it isn't a simple look at 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:29.440 temperature it good it's more like i 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:33.440 have to go through all the frame times organize it and then we'll be able to 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:37.440 tell you if it worked or not all right it's the next morning and i've crunched 00:08:34.719 --> 00:08:43.039 the numbers on the rtx 3090 the results are very clear the re-paste got us more 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:50.160 FPS 17 more actually infirmark and the k5 pro got us an additional 4 FPS for a 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:53.600 total gain of 21. this translates into a 00:08:50.160 --> 00:08:55.600 6.3 increase in FPS and i've seen a lot 00:08:53.600 --> 00:09:00.320 of people go to a lot more trouble than this for 00:08:57.040 --> 00:09:02.240 less gains really in f1 2020 uh 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:06.959 it's a CPU bound game so there was no change 00:09:03.680 --> 00:09:09.440 as for the alienware x17 00:09:06.959 --> 00:09:14.880 uh if you want to re-paste it don't turns out their extra special element 31 00:09:12.560 --> 00:09:19.120 that they talked about a whole bunch uh yeah it kicks ass so when we replaced it 00:09:16.959 --> 00:09:24.720 our performance dropped by seven FPS infermark and in f120 21 we lost three 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:30.080 FPS fortunately we were able to make up some of that by adding the k5 pro so our 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:36.560 losses were halved in fermark and in f1 2021 we saw an incredible gain of 1 FPS 00:09:34.560 --> 00:09:41.120 meaning that having your vrm's better cool on this laptops can make up for 00:09:38.560 --> 00:09:45.519 worse CPU temperatures so am i going to put k5 pro on everything 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:50.080 well the impressive part of this is that the k5 pro was able to give us 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:54.480 performance gains in brand new devices and brand new thermal pads if your 00:09:52.160 --> 00:09:58.080 laptop or GPU is around two or three years old and you're already planning a 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:02.240 re-paste i think including a tub of this stuff makes a lot of sense i'm probably 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:06.320 gonna order a bulk jar so that i don't have to use the stupid thermal pads that 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:10.480 come with water blocks and cut them and stuff also applying it's pretty fun i 00:10:08.560 --> 00:10:14.000 like the dirtiness of it thanks freshbooks for sponsoring today's video 00:10:12.160 --> 00:10:17.200 freshbooks is the easy to use accounting software that helps you do your business 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:22.320 you can impress your clients with professional looking invoices that detail the work you've done you can use 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:26.399 automated payment reminders if invoices get past due you can easily track 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:29.360 expenses and use their time tracker to log every minute of billable hours so 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:34.560 you don't have to think about it later and you can keep everyone on the same page with their projects feature which 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