WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.560 I might be getting old and boring, but I think I'm starting to understand mice 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:12.559 for productivity. Yes, it might not be the most performant mouse, but yes, it's 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:19.279 also very good at what it does. And that is exciting in its own way. What isn't 00:00:15.440 --> 00:00:21.359 exciting, the MXM 4, the latest in the 00:00:19.279 --> 00:00:25.680 dominant line of productivity mice that Logitech has released, does not come 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:30.400 with a USBC cable. I think that's a step too far. I think product makers kind of 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:35.360 towed the line with not including charging bricks with phones anymore. You know, we have enough charging bricks, 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:39.760 but we can use more cables. Cables are basically disposable at the quality that 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:45.600 they make them in. And uh the fact that there is none in this box makes me 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:49.680 slightly sad. You wouldn't like me when I'm slightly sad. That's all that's in 00:00:47.360 --> 00:00:53.199 the box. We have our mouse, our dongle. I'm for miniaturaturization, but this 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:59.680 feels like something that's going to get lost. Especially cuz I don't think there is a spot. Oh, there is a spot. I guess 00:00:57.680 --> 00:01:02.680 you can keep it plugged into your mouse itself. 00:01:04.080 --> 00:01:09.920 That's an acceptable spot for it to go. So, no points lost. But let's get down 00:01:08.320 --> 00:01:14.000 to the brass tax of it. What makes this mouse special is not its sensor. It's 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:18.000 not its performance. It's the fact that it is designed for your hand to fit 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:22.320 comfortably. It is well featured for work tasks. And it is a premium material 00:01:20.320 --> 00:01:26.720 that theoretically should last a long time, unlike the previous MX Masters 00:01:24.880 --> 00:01:31.920 that were disgusting after a couple months of use. Am I right? I am. This is 00:01:30.320 --> 00:01:36.159 already a huge improvement. We got premium materials. It's kind of like a 00:01:33.520 --> 00:01:40.079 knurled plastic. This feels like it's normal mouse material. It's going to 00:01:37.600 --> 00:01:45.520 last a long, long time. Oh, this is heavy. How heavy is it? 00:01:42.960 --> 00:01:50.560 150 g. I guess when you pack in all these features that some people want 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:55.200 into a tiny little package, it adds up. Like this aluminum scroll wheel. I 00:01:53.759 --> 00:02:00.799 wonder how many people actually really care about that as opposed to people that are like that's pretty cool. You 00:01:58.399 --> 00:02:04.640 can set it to have different amounts of clickiness electronically, but it also 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:08.800 the faster you scroll it kind of disengages the the notches and it's 00:02:06.960 --> 00:02:12.720 fast. You can do like a,000 lines a minute. Uh so Logitech says I don't 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:16.720 really know what that means. I feel like you can do unlimited lines a minute. All 00:02:14.160 --> 00:02:21.200 you do is just speed it up in software. Cool. It's rare that I start with the 00:02:19.200 --> 00:02:25.840 scroll wheel. It's just kind of a big deal on this buddy guy. It also has a 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:30.000 side scroll wheel, which is very useful for productivity. If you are a gamer, 00:02:28.480 --> 00:02:33.040 uh, look elsewhere. There's so many reasons this is the wrong mouse for you. 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:37.040 If you are someone who works in an office, hey, how you doing? You got 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:40.400 money? You want to be a a sugar mama? Back to the physical tour of the device. 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:45.040 It's interesting. It's sort of like a two layers of plastic on the buttons. 00:02:43.040 --> 00:02:48.160 It's got like a gray plastic underneath and then a transparent layer on top. You 00:02:46.720 --> 00:02:53.360 can sort of see the edges of it. So, has an interesting look. Feels like a little 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:56.800 bit of overengineering. Maybe the clickiness is almost non-existent. Like 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.879 it feels like you're pressing down on rubber domes. It is by design because 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:04.560 this is an office style mouse. You don't want to have really loud clicks unless 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:08.959 you're that person in your office. You can get your clicks by tapping really 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:13.440 hard, but like most clicks are pretty soft and subdued. Below that, we have 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:16.560 our wheel button uh that we can control in software. We'll get to that when we 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:20.959 get to it. The overall shape from the top is a fairly ergonomic one. It's not 00:03:18.959 --> 00:03:25.519 one that feels uncomfortable to me, but it's not one that my hand yearns for. It 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:29.360 feels like it's going to engage the top part of my hand without really bringing 00:03:27.200 --> 00:03:32.959 in the bottom, which is fine. It also feels quite heavy for how front heavy it 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:38.879 is. It's like it feels like it could kind of like run away on me. Like what? 00:03:35.760 --> 00:03:40.480 I've been using the Keyron M5 at my desk 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:45.599 and that's a lighter mouse in a vertical stance and this feels significantly less 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:50.560 ergonomic than that. Although this feels significantly more ergonomic than most 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:54.799 mice that are out there. It also feels quite premium, although some kind of 00:03:52.799 --> 00:03:58.239 mechanism or something feels like when I swing really hard, it's sort of like 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:02.640 bouncing around inside the mouse. I'm guessing that's the haptic feedback 00:04:00.480 --> 00:04:06.080 that's not currently on right now doing something weird, but it doesn't feel 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:10.720 quite that premium. Let's go to the side where we have our big mouse scoop button 00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:14.480 thing. That is sort of the killer feature uh of this mouse. But we have a 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:21.120 forward and back button, an extra button, and we have that aforementioned scroll wheel. At the front, we have our 00:04:18.799 --> 00:04:24.720 type-C port. It is not recessed, so pretty much any cable should charge 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:28.960 this, which is nice. On the bottom, we have decent looking PTFE skates that'll 00:04:27.440 --> 00:04:32.639 make for a pretty smooth gliding experience considering how heavy it is. 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:36.720 Then we have our onoff switch and we have our three device switching mode. 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:40.320 So, you can pair it up to three devices and seamlessly switch. I know that's a 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:43.600 big deal for some people. For me, it's not a big big deal because I prefer to 00:04:41.919 --> 00:04:48.400 have one mouse per device that I can just lift off switch. Uh maybe if I got 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:52.960 used to lifting up, pressing a button, and waiting for a second, I think that 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:56.320 would be pretty cool. Um, but I like very quickly being able to switch 00:04:54.160 --> 00:05:00.000 between them. You'll notice that on the bottom there 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:04.479 is no like mode switching. There is no going to 2.4 GHz mode uh versus 00:05:02.479 --> 00:05:08.880 Bluetooth versus wired. That's because this mouse can only do Bluetooth. Yes, 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:12.800 it has a dongle. Uh, sadly, this is a Bluetooth dongle, but it is a premium 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:17.759 product and the way that if you're watching this video, you probably care a lot about. And I can't wait to explore 00:05:15.840 --> 00:05:22.240 those a little bit more after I tell you about our sponsor. Thanks to War Thunder 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:28.080 for sponsoring this video. If you're looking for something to do, how about getting in the driver's seat of over 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:30.479 2,500 realistically modeled war machines 00:05:28.080 --> 00:05:35.039 to cause utter destruction on a massive virtual battlefield. 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I'm not against that, especially for who this 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:25.680 mouse is targeting. It's not necessarily power users that really know what 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:31.840 they're doing. It's people that want like a productivity mouse and they want to be able to set it up exactly as they 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:34.639 want. From our best guess, it's pretty 00:06:31.840 --> 00:06:38.479 similar performance to the MXM 3S. The descriptors they use are basically the 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:43.360 same, although there's very little information about this mouse uh that 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:46.240 Logitech will share with us. There might be more on their website by the time 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:51.199 that this mouse is actually out. The sensor in here goes up to 8,000. Wow, 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:54.800 that's not ideal. This is not a scientific test, but it should give us 00:06:52.800 --> 00:07:02.080 an idea of what the polling rate on this mouse is. That's such a bummer, man. Oh, 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:04.400 come on. You can see that it peaks above 00:07:02.080 --> 00:07:10.479 125, but my guess based on these numbers is that actually is 125 Hz pulling rate, 00:07:07.919 --> 00:07:13.759 which is definitely a bit of a bummer. That's not ideal. Let's go back to the 00:07:11.919 --> 00:07:16.720 software, though. Scroll wheel modes. The scroll wheel automatically shifts 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:20.160 from line by line scrolling to free spinning when you scroll faster. It is 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:24.800 pretty cool. You can now set a different scroll force from the point, scroll, and 00:07:22.880 --> 00:07:30.960 press settings. Click the mode shift button to toggle modes manually. Ooh, 00:07:27.440 --> 00:07:33.520 yeah. Yeah. Oh, 00:07:30.960 --> 00:07:37.520 interesting. They've assigned this extra side button to sort of be a gestures 00:07:35.840 --> 00:07:43.440 kind of thing where you hold it and move in a direction. I feel like that can't 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:47.039 end well. I'm not a big fan of that side button. That's okay. All right. Now, we 00:07:45.280 --> 00:07:53.440 get to the interesting stuff. The haptic sense panel. That is this side button. 00:07:50.880 --> 00:07:59.759 Push the button to open the action ring. Okay. Okay. You have all these different 00:07:55.599 --> 00:08:03.599 options. Play. Pause. Windows Explorer, 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:07.599 Emoji, Windows Screenshot, Logi Options 00:08:03.599 --> 00:08:10.240 Plus, Ask Perplexity. Oh no, we have our 00:08:07.599 --> 00:08:17.759 AI tools panel. Oh wow, we have G chat GBT, Perplexity, Gemini, and Co-Pilot. 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:19.680 Wow, four AIs at the push of a button 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:24.800 and then a slight push over and then a click of another button. Incredible. I'm 00:08:22.479 --> 00:08:30.000 being a little bit sardonic. Uh, this kind of stuff really isn't my bag, baby. 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:33.360 If this is something that excites you, great. And you can kind of see it 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:37.519 working. You can also download other configurations for specific software so 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:42.560 that it's context specific on on what pops up, which makes it even cooler. 00:08:39.839 --> 00:08:49.680 Here's the problem. Look at the screen. Log in to install plugins. If you want 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:53.519 to customize what this wheel does, you 00:08:49.680 --> 00:08:56.880 have to log in to Logitech. 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:59.600 I think that is a little absurd. I don't 00:08:56.880 --> 00:09:03.040 want an account just to change the controls of this hardware that I bought. 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:06.880 We're now at the real options, which is great. I can customize my buttons, get 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:11.760 them do a whole bunch of stuff. You can assign the hold and moves, task views. 00:09:09.760 --> 00:09:15.200 This is quite thorough amount of reassignment, which is pretty cool. You 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:21.600 can even add applications to the specific buttons. Pretty cool. You can 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:23.440 change the scroll wheel stuff. You can 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:27.120 invert or standard scrolling force. Let's go 100%. So I get that nice sort 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:31.360 of clicky. Smooth scrolling. You can turn on by default. So you don't have to 00:09:28.560 --> 00:09:36.399 like really rip to get there. With smart shift, you can actually turn on and off 00:09:33.839 --> 00:09:41.519 that uh mode where the scroll wheel will let itself go uh when you rip really 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:44.720 fast. I like the tactility of the little notching. So I think I'm going to turn 00:09:42.880 --> 00:09:48.959 it off. And I don't often scroll through thousands of lines of code. I'm going to 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:53.519 keep it off. The thumb wheel has fewer options. You can only change the speed 00:09:50.640 --> 00:09:58.640 and the direction. So cool. Haptic feedback. Haptic intensity. Hi baby. 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:02.880 There is an actual clicking action. So this pad will click in. It's not like 00:10:00.959 --> 00:10:05.519 the touchpad on the Steam Deck where it has such good haptic feedback. You think 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:10.959 it's clicking, but it's not actually clicking. But then if you hover over things, it vibrates a little bit as if 00:10:08.880 --> 00:10:16.000 it was a click. It doesn't feel as tight as high-end devices haptics like a PS5 00:10:13.839 --> 00:10:19.760 controller or the Steam Deck even. But it's it's neat enough and it certainly 00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:22.720 indicates when you're over an item. So I think you would probably get pretty good 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:26.959 if you were using it pretty fast, even if you weren't staring at it to know 00:10:24.640 --> 00:10:31.760 which direction you were in. So I think that the haptic feedback does its job. 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:35.920 It does note here that if you have the higher settings, it uh increases the 00:10:33.920 --> 00:10:40.160 battery usage. So maybe maybe I'll go back to a lower intensity. Yeah, the 00:10:38.640 --> 00:10:46.399 more I play around with this, the more I uh want subtle. All right. Enable haptic 00:10:43.040 --> 00:10:48.320 for app plugins. Install plugins, find 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:52.079 more from marketplace. I guess this is pre-release software. So by the time 00:10:49.920 --> 00:10:56.399 this comes out on September 30th, there might be more things, but right now it's 00:10:54.320 --> 00:11:00.800 only Photoshop, Lightroom, and Zoom. This is cool. This is what I wanted to 00:10:58.079 --> 00:11:05.040 see. You can reassign all of the parts of the action wheel here. You don't 00:11:02.959 --> 00:11:09.920 necessarily have to do it plugin by plugin. This actually like could be fun 00:11:07.920 --> 00:11:13.519 if you were the right audience for this. I actually think this is pretty pretty 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.959 neat. There's other ways to accomplish what that's doing, but this is a 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:21.120 possible tool in your toolkit. We don't need to spend a bunch of time playing 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:23.839 games with this mouse. It's not designed for that. It's designed for 00:11:22.079 --> 00:11:28.399 productivity. If you are excited about this mouse, you're excited about this 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:31.200 mouse. This is not a high performance 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:36.800 mouse. And I think that Keyron is kind of coming for Logitech and this sort of 00:11:33.760 --> 00:11:39.040 premium product uh by offering similar 00:11:36.800 --> 00:11:43.120 feature sets with way better performance. It doesn't have the haptic 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:47.440 wheel, but like I said, there's a million ways to sort of add macros to 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:51.040 your workflow or shortcuts and stuff. And so, I don't think that this is as 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:55.760 killer of a feature as Logitech wants you to think that it is. But maybe 00:11:54.160 --> 00:11:59.360 you're looking at that and or maybe you have like less mobility in your left 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:02.399 hand. So, having more tied to your right hand is something that's really 00:12:00.880 --> 00:12:05.680 excellent for you. And I don't want to yuck your yum. I want to yum your yum. 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:09.680 You know what I'm saying? I don't think this is the best job Logitech could have 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:17.120 done with this mouse. I think it is a huge improvement in terms of build materials and quality over the MX3 and 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:21.040 3S. I think the shape is pretty darn nice and like it's a striking mouse. I 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:23.680 think that the the kind of transparent plastic over it is actually kind of a 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:29.440 cool touch and depending on the lighting in your environment, I think this could be a pretty cool looking mouse. It's a 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:33.920 shame it only comes in corporate approved colors of gray and white uh in 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:38.160 different shades. And I think that if you're someone that has an MXM and 00:12:36.560 --> 00:12:43.120 you're like, I need a new one. mine's falling apart or you've been eyeing it, 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:48.639 this is a good option. But when the Keyron M6 is out there, uh, or the M7 if 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:53.360 you like that shape, uh, that is just a way higher performance mouse with a lot 00:12:50.959 --> 00:12:59.200 of the same features minus the haptic touch, which for me isn't a big deal. I 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:03.440 don't think that this is worth the $120 asking price. I think it's nice that 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:08.560 they didn't have a significant price increase from the 3 series to the four. 00:13:06.079 --> 00:13:12.880 We live in a time where the price of 5-year-old electronics is going up, not 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:16.880 down. And that's a huge bummer. So 120 bucks isn't necessarily an unfair price 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:20.959 for this, but personally, if I'm looking for a mouse for my productivity, I'm 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:25.200 going to look at Keyron between $40 and $70 and you get a much more performing 00:13:22.800 --> 00:13:28.800 mouse even at that $40 price. Logitech, I think if you want to capture my heart, 00:13:27.680 --> 00:13:32.480 which I don't think you do. This is not the mouse that you're making for me. I 00:13:30.800 --> 00:13:36.639 think it's time to make something in this shape with these features that 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:38.880 doesn't sacrifice on performance. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you're looking at this 00:13:37.760 --> 00:13:43.360 mouse and you're like, "This is the coolest mouse I've ever seen." And if that's you, let us know in the comments. 00:13:41.839 --> 00:13:47.600 And if that's not you, let us know in the comments. And if you are either of 00:13:46.079 --> 00:13:52.399 those categories, why don't you keep watching Short Circuits like the time I 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:55.839 unboxed the M5, which I'm still currently using on my desk. I freaking 00:13:54.160 --> 00:14:00.560 love that mouse. That's a vertical mouse, but it also is a good indicator 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:03.839 of what the M6 would be like, which maybe you want us to unbox on short 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:09.199 circuit. Let us know that below. If you want us to unbox an M6 or an M7, we can 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:12.000 do that. Just uh just comment below. You know what I'm saying?