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I might be getting old and boring, but I think I'm starting to understand mice

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for productivity. Yes, it might not be the most performant mouse, but yes, it's

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also very good at what it does. And that is exciting in its own way. What isn't

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exciting, the MXM 4, the latest in the

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dominant line of productivity mice that Logitech has released, does not come

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with a USBC cable. I think that's a step too far. I think product makers kind of

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towed the line with not including charging bricks with phones anymore. You know, we have enough charging bricks,

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but we can use more cables. Cables are basically disposable at the quality that

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they make them in. And uh the fact that there is none in this box makes me

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slightly sad. You wouldn't like me when I'm slightly sad. That's all that's in

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the box. We have our mouse, our dongle. I'm for miniaturaturization, but this

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feels like something that's going to get lost. Especially cuz I don't think there is a spot. Oh, there is a spot. I guess

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you can keep it plugged into your mouse itself.

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That's an acceptable spot for it to go. So, no points lost. But let's get down

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to the brass tax of it. What makes this mouse special is not its sensor. It's

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not its performance. It's the fact that it is designed for your hand to fit

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comfortably. It is well featured for work tasks. And it is a premium material

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that theoretically should last a long time, unlike the previous MX Masters

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that were disgusting after a couple months of use. Am I right? I am. This is

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already a huge improvement. We got premium materials. It's kind of like a

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knurled plastic. This feels like it's normal mouse material. It's going to

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last a long, long time. Oh, this is heavy. How heavy is it?

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150 g. I guess when you pack in all these features that some people want

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into a tiny little package, it adds up. Like this aluminum scroll wheel. I

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wonder how many people actually really care about that as opposed to people that are like that's pretty cool. You

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can set it to have different amounts of clickiness electronically, but it also

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the faster you scroll it kind of disengages the the notches and it's

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fast. You can do like a,000 lines a minute. Uh so Logitech says I don't

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really know what that means. I feel like you can do unlimited lines a minute. All

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you do is just speed it up in software. Cool. It's rare that I start with the

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scroll wheel. It's just kind of a big deal on this buddy guy. It also has a

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side scroll wheel, which is very useful for productivity. If you are a gamer,

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uh, look elsewhere. There's so many reasons this is the wrong mouse for you.

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If you are someone who works in an office, hey, how you doing? You got

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money? You want to be a a sugar mama? Back to the physical tour of the device.

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It's interesting. It's sort of like a two layers of plastic on the buttons.

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It's got like a gray plastic underneath and then a transparent layer on top. You

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can sort of see the edges of it. So, has an interesting look. Feels like a little

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bit of overengineering. Maybe the clickiness is almost non-existent. Like

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it feels like you're pressing down on rubber domes. It is by design because

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this is an office style mouse. You don't want to have really loud clicks unless

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you're that person in your office. You can get your clicks by tapping really

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hard, but like most clicks are pretty soft and subdued. Below that, we have

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our wheel button uh that we can control in software. We'll get to that when we

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get to it. The overall shape from the top is a fairly ergonomic one. It's not

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one that feels uncomfortable to me, but it's not one that my hand yearns for. It

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feels like it's going to engage the top part of my hand without really bringing

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in the bottom, which is fine. It also feels quite heavy for how front heavy it

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is. It's like it feels like it could kind of like run away on me. Like what?

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I've been using the Keyron M5 at my desk

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and that's a lighter mouse in a vertical stance and this feels significantly less

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ergonomic than that. Although this feels significantly more ergonomic than most

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mice that are out there. It also feels quite premium, although some kind of

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mechanism or something feels like when I swing really hard, it's sort of like

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bouncing around inside the mouse. I'm guessing that's the haptic feedback

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that's not currently on right now doing something weird, but it doesn't feel

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quite that premium. Let's go to the side where we have our big mouse scoop button

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thing. That is sort of the killer feature uh of this mouse. But we have a

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forward and back button, an extra button, and we have that aforementioned scroll wheel. At the front, we have our

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type-C port. It is not recessed, so pretty much any cable should charge

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this, which is nice. On the bottom, we have decent looking PTFE skates that'll

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make for a pretty smooth gliding experience considering how heavy it is.

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Then we have our onoff switch and we have our three device switching mode.

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So, you can pair it up to three devices and seamlessly switch. I know that's a

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big deal for some people. For me, it's not a big big deal because I prefer to

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have one mouse per device that I can just lift off switch. Uh maybe if I got

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used to lifting up, pressing a button, and waiting for a second, I think that

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would be pretty cool. Um, but I like very quickly being able to switch

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between them. You'll notice that on the bottom there

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is no like mode switching. There is no going to 2.4 GHz mode uh versus

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Bluetooth versus wired. That's because this mouse can only do Bluetooth. Yes,

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it has a dongle. Uh, sadly, this is a Bluetooth dongle, but it is a premium

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>> All right. After what must have been the most

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frustrating pairing process I've ever experienced in my entire life. I've

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downloaded the software. I've connected the mouse. No. Continue pairing. I want

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to pair. It's no longer connected to your computer. So, you can't actually

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click connect.

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Use your logic. Logitech. Big fan of needing two mice to set up one. My

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device is right here.

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We are finally connected to the software. Uh, and we're going through

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kind of like a first use wizard. I'm not against that, especially for who this

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mouse is targeting. It's not necessarily power users that really know what

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they're doing. It's people that want like a productivity mouse and they want to be able to set it up exactly as they

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want. From our best guess, it's pretty

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similar performance to the MXM 3S. The descriptors they use are basically the

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same, although there's very little information about this mouse uh that

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Logitech will share with us. There might be more on their website by the time

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that this mouse is actually out. The sensor in here goes up to 8,000. Wow,

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that's not ideal. This is not a scientific test, but it should give us

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an idea of what the polling rate on this mouse is. That's such a bummer, man. Oh,

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come on. You can see that it peaks above

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125, but my guess based on these numbers is that actually is 125 Hz pulling rate,

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which is definitely a bit of a bummer. That's not ideal. Let's go back to the

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software, though. Scroll wheel modes. The scroll wheel automatically shifts

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from line by line scrolling to free spinning when you scroll faster. It is

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pretty cool. You can now set a different scroll force from the point, scroll, and

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press settings. Click the mode shift button to toggle modes manually. Ooh,

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yeah. Yeah. Oh,

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interesting. They've assigned this extra side button to sort of be a gestures

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kind of thing where you hold it and move in a direction. I feel like that can't

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end well. I'm not a big fan of that side button. That's okay. All right. Now, we

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get to the interesting stuff. The haptic sense panel. That is this side button.

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Push the button to open the action ring. Okay. Okay. You have all these different

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options. Play. Pause. Windows Explorer,

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Emoji, Windows Screenshot, Logi Options

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Plus, Ask Perplexity. Oh no, we have our

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AI tools panel. Oh wow, we have G chat GBT, Perplexity, Gemini, and Co-Pilot.

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Wow, four AIs at the push of a button

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and then a slight push over and then a click of another button. Incredible. I'm

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being a little bit sardonic. Uh, this kind of stuff really isn't my bag, baby.

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If this is something that excites you, great. And you can kind of see it

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working. You can also download other configurations for specific software so

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that it's context specific on on what pops up, which makes it even cooler.

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Here's the problem. Look at the screen. Log in to install plugins. If you want

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to customize what this wheel does, you

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have to log in to Logitech.

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I think that is a little absurd. I don't

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want an account just to change the controls of this hardware that I bought.

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We're now at the real options, which is great. I can customize my buttons, get

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them do a whole bunch of stuff. You can assign the hold and moves, task views.

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This is quite thorough amount of reassignment, which is pretty cool. You

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can even add applications to the specific buttons. Pretty cool. You can

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change the scroll wheel stuff. You can

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invert or standard scrolling force. Let's go 100%. So I get that nice sort

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of clicky. Smooth scrolling. You can turn on by default. So you don't have to

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like really rip to get there. With smart shift, you can actually turn on and off

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that uh mode where the scroll wheel will let itself go uh when you rip really

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fast. I like the tactility of the little notching. So I think I'm going to turn

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it off. And I don't often scroll through thousands of lines of code. I'm going to

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keep it off. The thumb wheel has fewer options. You can only change the speed

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and the direction. So cool. Haptic feedback. Haptic intensity. Hi baby.

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There is an actual clicking action. So this pad will click in. It's not like

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the touchpad on the Steam Deck where it has such good haptic feedback. You think

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it's clicking, but it's not actually clicking. But then if you hover over things, it vibrates a little bit as if

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it was a click. It doesn't feel as tight as high-end devices haptics like a PS5

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controller or the Steam Deck even. But it's it's neat enough and it certainly

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indicates when you're over an item. So I think you would probably get pretty good

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if you were using it pretty fast, even if you weren't staring at it to know

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which direction you were in. So I think that the haptic feedback does its job.

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It does note here that if you have the higher settings, it uh increases the

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battery usage. So maybe maybe I'll go back to a lower intensity. Yeah, the

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more I play around with this, the more I uh want subtle. All right. Enable haptic

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for app plugins. Install plugins, find

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more from marketplace. I guess this is pre-release software. So by the time

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this comes out on September 30th, there might be more things, but right now it's

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only Photoshop, Lightroom, and Zoom. This is cool. This is what I wanted to

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see. You can reassign all of the parts of the action wheel here. You don't

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necessarily have to do it plugin by plugin. This actually like could be fun

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if you were the right audience for this. I actually think this is pretty pretty

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neat. There's other ways to accomplish what that's doing, but this is a

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possible tool in your toolkit. We don't need to spend a bunch of time playing

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games with this mouse. It's not designed for that. It's designed for

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productivity. If you are excited about this mouse, you're excited about this

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mouse. This is not a high performance

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mouse. And I think that Keyron is kind of coming for Logitech and this sort of

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premium product uh by offering similar

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feature sets with way better performance. It doesn't have the haptic

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wheel, but like I said, there's a million ways to sort of add macros to

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your workflow or shortcuts and stuff. And so, I don't think that this is as

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killer of a feature as Logitech wants you to think that it is. But maybe

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you're looking at that and or maybe you have like less mobility in your left

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hand. So, having more tied to your right hand is something that's really

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excellent for you. And I don't want to yuck your yum. I want to yum your yum.

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You know what I'm saying? I don't think this is the best job Logitech could have

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done with this mouse. I think it is a huge improvement in terms of build materials and quality over the MX3 and

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3S. I think the shape is pretty darn nice and like it's a striking mouse. I

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think that the the kind of transparent plastic over it is actually kind of a

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cool touch and depending on the lighting in your environment, I think this could be a pretty cool looking mouse. It's a

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shame it only comes in corporate approved colors of gray and white uh in

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different shades. And I think that if you're someone that has an MXM and

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you're like, I need a new one. mine's falling apart or you've been eyeing it,

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this is a good option. But when the Keyron M6 is out there, uh, or the M7 if

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you like that shape, uh, that is just a way higher performance mouse with a lot

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of the same features minus the haptic touch, which for me isn't a big deal. I

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don't think that this is worth the $120 asking price. I think it's nice that

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they didn't have a significant price increase from the 3 series to the four.

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We live in a time where the price of 5-year-old electronics is going up, not

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down. And that's a huge bummer. So 120 bucks isn't necessarily an unfair price

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for this, but personally, if I'm looking for a mouse for my productivity, I'm

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going to look at Keyron between $40 and $70 and you get a much more performing

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mouse even at that $40 price. Logitech, I think if you want to capture my heart,

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which I don't think you do. This is not the mouse that you're making for me. I

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think it's time to make something in this shape with these features that

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doesn't sacrifice on performance. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you're looking at this

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mouse and you're like, "This is the coolest mouse I've ever seen." And if that's you, let us know in the comments.

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And if that's not you, let us know in the comments. And if you are either of

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those categories, why don't you keep watching Short Circuits like the time I

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unboxed the M5, which I'm still currently using on my desk. I freaking

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love that mouse. That's a vertical mouse, but it also is a good indicator

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of what the M6 would be like, which maybe you want us to unbox on short

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circuit. Let us know that below. If you want us to unbox an M6 or an M7, we can

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do that. Just uh just comment below. You know what I'm saying?
