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down","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"a portion of this video is sponsored by salesforce watch till the end to learn more when we think of a high performance CPU these days it's all about the processing course i mean sure 5.3 gigahertz is more than 5 gigahertz but if you've only got four cores versus eight you're getting left behind but that's not how things used to be just three short years ago four cores was all you needed on the desktop mostly because a single company decided that for you so in this installment of why the advertiser friendly content are you all buying this we're gonna see why the invisible hand of the free market thinks that the ryzen 5 3600 is the indisputable sweet spot it's because it's the best bang for the buck video over thanks for watching guys if you're looking for something else to watch keep watching this video the ryzen 5 3600 is currently the number one best seller on amazon.com with 3rd gen ryzen in general making up 7 of the top 10 which is just an unbelievable coup for AMD it's a similar story on newegg with 3rd gen only eclipsed by previous gen chips from both AMD and Intel that frequently end up on clearance specials but how did these multi-core ryzen cpus come to dominate the market in the first place to answer this we have to go way back to the mid-2000s the last time that AMD was a competitive threat to Intel AMD had the athlon x2 and Intel had the core 2 duo and even back then the advantages of having more CPU cores in those cases two were mostly in making sure that background tasks wouldn't suddenly spike your CPU and grind whatever you were doing in the foreground to a screeching halt when phenom 2 flopped and AMD's disastrous fx cpus failed to provoke a response out of Intel the industry kind of settled into quad core as the top of the line while software continued to play catch-up that meant that despite multi-threading becoming more mainstream as older single core cpus became obsolete most software could only really count on there being two to four cores in the typical computer sold at your local best buy so that is what most games and desktop software got optimized for now Intel kept going with the easy to produce and easy to remember product lineup all the way until 2017 when generational improvements became so meager that something had to give enter AMD ryzen with up to double the CPU course for roughly the same price i mean sure early software struggled to take advantage of the new course not to mention AMD's unique core layout but today this has been mostly resolved and AMD has not only caught up with Intel but have actually surpassed them in many ways not that it was easy at the root of the trouble was global foundries AMD's chip production partner who struggled with 14 nanometer and later 12 nanometer production that led to stability issues due to poor quality silicon and even consumers who wanted a ryzen CPU couldn't always find one on the shelf due to product shortages unlike at lttstore.com where you never even see a shelf because it's online with today's third gen ryzens though AMD has two big things going for them first is tsmc's much improved seven nanometer process this is big well metaphorically speaking while nanometers aren't always relevant seven nanometer was a major leap forward and provided a much needed shot in the ARM for ryzen and enabled the second big improvement the chiplet design that's used throughout the lineup chiplets or core complex dies or ccds are made much smaller than traditional all-in-one processor dies because what they do is they move all the complex io to a separate dial together allowing AMD to essentially just produce one type of small ccd and then thanks to the magic of binning bundle them with whichever i o die they need since they're essentially the same physical design across the entire product stack this means that overall performance stability and yields all improve and the number of core combinations increases so a single ccd chip like our ryzen 5 3600 can have anywhere from four to eight cores and those exact same ccds can be combined and rearranged in an array of up to eight of them to create up to a 64 core threadripper that's very streamlined from a production standpoint now back to the 3600 for a moment though this is a CPU that kind of straddles the line between the old and the new with six reasonably fast multi-threading capable cores and with a very attractive price about 205 not to mention that it comes with a cooler in the box although we wouldn't recommend using that if you want to overclock which of course though you're free to do on all ryzen cpus AMD's older cpus are still strong contenders though so it all comes down to compatibility no matter what generation of ryzen motherboard you have you can actually run any of these cpus so if you're waiting for zen 3 you can buy a ryzen 5 2600 and save a buck today with the option of upgrading later on and the cool thing is it works the other way around too if you've got a first gen ryzen system you can actually get a significant increase in performance by upgrading to a ryzen 5 3600 today and then just drop it in with a simple BIOS update this is a huge advantage for AMD right now because Intel's z370 chipset actually broke compatibility on older cpus with their z490 successor on a completely new socket so if you're like most people you'll probably feel a bit burned about only getting two generations of compatibility with team blue for all these years when for the past several years AMD has done a much better job of maintaining intergenerational compatibility by the way AMD is due to launch 4th gen ryzen very soon so get subscribed so you don't miss our review as for the performance of this puppy well there's a reason why our budget 4k video editing pc used a ryzen 5 3600 taking advantage of a compatible previous generation motherboard we got the cost of our whole workstation down below a thousand dollars and without any overclocking impress the heck out of dennis who usually edits videos on a workstation that costs twice as much and don't take just our word alone steve over at gamersnexus found that in general productivity performance of this chip is roughly in line with Intel's core i5 10600k a CPU that costs nearly a hundred dollars more and doesn't even have a cooler in the box and it's no secret that the ryzen 5 3600 will handle gaming too albeit with performance that below but not far below team blue especially at this price point this combination of acceptable gaming performance and stellar productivity has attracted tinkerers content creators and of course thrift seeking gamers it just straight up is the best all-arounder do everything CPU it's not the you know star of the show at anything but it doesn't have to be it can go wherever you need it and it comes with everything you need to run it's just great value this portion of this video was sponsored by salesforce salesforce essentials 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