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show guys the weekly analysis and news show which uh is brought to you by

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Coca-Cola we have a new spons actually no Coca-Cola Coca-Cola and Pepsi I

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actually don't like Coca-Cola it's not very good do you do you like Pepsi more

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or you just don't like Co neither do I yeah it's just terrible is weird

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although it's better than the noname stuff uh safe waves house brand simply

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soda I remember this one time I drank one can of it this is when I was like 9

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or 10 I drank one can of it before I

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left and that stuff made me have to pee

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like nothing else I've ever experienced in my life so I'm driving down from

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Whistler yeah we get stuck in traffic on the Sea to Sky Highway sounds about

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right I peed myself in the car not once

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not twice but three times how old are you I was well there

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was nothing I could do there was a cliff on one side there was bumper-to-bumper

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traffic piss out the door before I pissed myself hours and hours to hours

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and hours to get down I was like Dad what do I do and is like I don't know

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just whatever I hold on to the roof lean out

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convertible there's like so stand up so yeah I I I don't hold a bag on each side

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or skis on each side I don't know about that you know what would love to hear

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your guys' feedback whether it's in the twitch chat or whether it's on Twitter

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would you rather embarrass yourself by peeing on the seat or embarrass yourself

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by standing out in front of the stopped by the way traffic completely stopped

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traffic like put blockers up like people stopped and like having like tailgate

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barbecues on their trucks with their propane because we're not moving so do

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you just pee there wh which option is better for you um totally totally open

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to feedback here I I was I was too embarrassed to get out of the car

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fortunately or unfortunately the seats were leather so at least it was going to

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come out but yeah it was uh it was one of those experiences you have in life

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that uh is unfortunate was I was I was

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not expecting that start to the W show actually no no I uh I I have never told

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you that story in fact I haven't told that story many times in general it's uh

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not one of those stories that I'm particularly proud of so we've got a

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great show for you guys we have special guest Lou from unbox therapy we've got

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um this guy I do things this guy we've

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got a bunch of great topics including the uh the first reviews are out of

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ASUS's 4k monitor which is extremely exciting as you guys know I'm all about

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the 4K and leaks of Dell's possible 4K

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mon

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yeah wow leaks of Dell's possible 4K

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monitors uh Samsung's new 840 Evo SSD

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honestly from what I've seen it looks like the only SSD that actually I should

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give any cares about anymore it's uh looks unbelievable as well as slicks

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expert uh you know correspondent analysis

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of what Microsoft could do to save Windows 9 to actually appeal to every

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customer have you read it I have read it it's actually pretty okay I don't

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disagree with you yeah and that's pretty good for me and him uh oh yeah my

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Watermark where's my Watermark uh don't worry we're going to

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run the intro we just finished doing the intro Diesel's afraid that I'll forget

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to run his awesome intro that we hardcore love long time and boom qu

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it I missed it gonna try that one more time

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all right so there is the intro someone

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says they hate it someone says best intro of all time so we're going to go

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ahead and call that it's all right 50%

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of the time all the time yeah

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exactly whoa my brain just exploded so

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guys remember as always the W show is brought to you by Razer comms the voice

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chat client that is actually optimized for gaming and isn't Skype but also does

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doesn't require you to set up a dedicated server or any of the issues that you might have with some of the

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other ones that are out there we actually had a lot of people criticizing

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our video about why we decided on Razer comms saying that you know uh this one's

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Superior or that one's Superior there's another one that's Superior uh the

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reality of it is comms is in beta um I have used other voice clients for anyone

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saying ventrillo was Superior wow go away because no it isn't uh Mumble on

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the other hand is outstanding the only issue with mumble is that when I used to

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use it for my I I would say Tuesday night gaming sessions but it was more

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like every night at that point in my life uh for for gaming sessions uh there

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were some issues with um with secure channels and with the authentication

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keys and you had to get like there you

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could only have like that edmin you know

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get you in and the sort of invites were weird and rooms were weird voice quality

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is outstanding yeah dedicated server all that kind of stuff um one thing like uh

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other voice communication programs all most of them have at least one thing

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that separates them like TeamSpeak a lot of people like team speak one thing that a lot of people might not know about

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team speak even the people that like it is that you can integrate it with things

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like ARMA and set up hotkeys in game which will talk over certain radio

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channels so you can go in like close burst within the game or like go over a

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certain Channel even though you're in a CH in the Channel with everyone and like

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it's a lot of different things have cool functionality we're just trying to show

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that Razer commoms also has its own nice cool

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way of going about being a voice so use that bitly link guys remember that helps

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us out a great deal if you're going to download Razer comms and try it or you're going to get your friends to

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download and try it please do use that link as I said before it helps us out a

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great deal so I would like to go to the Twitter boards that's what I'm going to

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call them from now on the twitters or I want to see what people think I would

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pee on another person's car looking straight in their eyes not losing eye

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contact the whole time come on if you're like nine I don't think so

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I'd rather let it go out the window own your body man and then Brian seems to be

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unrelated you're going to make me get Instagram aren't you um I am going to

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continue using Instagram so so that's kind of a thing and for some reason I'm

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not getting any tweets so uh

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huh there you go there's two watching

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from Texas love the wo guys what should

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I get two GTX wow that went fast all of a sudden 2 GTX 7 60s are 1780 also tell

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slick I love his little beard I don't think that's an intentional beard is it

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what do you mean the your beard it's an intentional beard it's an intentional

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beard I shave this part oh okay well um

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I'm trying to enjoy it before I inevitably volunteer for firefighting

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and have to take it off you're not allowed to have a beard As A Firefighter

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well it will your skin won't make contact with a mask as well ah okay okay

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it it makes sense cuz you need it to be able to stick against your skin and like

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we figured out with the ninja mask my hair pokes through things and stuff

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gotcha all right saurin asks for headphones in the $200 to $250 range

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you're really happy with your custom one Pros right yeah they're awesome and they often go on sale around that range hard

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to say no to that play Modern games on Afterparty we'll see if we can even figure out playing games on the

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Afterparty should I buy a 7950 now or wait for new AMD cards no idea uh we

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don't know uh h100i intake or exhaust on

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Phantom 410 mounted in the top all other intake go ahead and use it as an exhaust

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ducky shine three up for pre-order ordering mine tomorrow only certain

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places have them for pre-order and a lot of places that have them oh wait this is

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shine 3 yeah I know he should be fine I was thinking snake a lot of them are

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sold out all right going to upgrade to 4770k is there any motherboard you'd

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recommend especially what is overclocking Noob friendly for up to

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$300 honestly for $300 you can buy

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pretty much whatever you want and we have a very exciting video coming soon

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where we are going to take two z70 uh Z87 boards uh would you remember which

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two they are it's a uh I don't remember the exact model name but it's a Gigabyte

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ITX Wi-Fi board little

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board versus a rampage Maximus extreme

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so we uh we overclock them both we run some benchmarks we find out actually in

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our experience what difference does it

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actually make uh versus I mean there's always the features that are added by

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better board so example for example the Maximus 6 formula has much better

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onboard audio which can save you buying a sound card with that said I've always

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believed that buying a very high quality sound card because of the way audio

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equipment doesn't really change much over time uh a good quality sound card

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from three years ago four years ago something like an azente X Meridian or

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something like that um still a good

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sound card if you can find a PCI slot to put it in so I recommend rather than

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investing in a better board that has better sound you grab a great sound card

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and put it in whatever board you happen to buy also looks a lot better in

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Aesthetics matter yeah true that all right so unbox therapy has uh

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has tweeted that he's going to be joining us

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soon that's very very exciting he's a really great guy we've actually met in

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person in the past and uh enjoyed some

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uh pretty actually it was some pretty suspect like barbecue make it-yourself

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food that uh yeah we were hanging out with Logan as well so there's some

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pictures from that trip but uh it was it was pretty great actually so let's do

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our first topic of the day shall we sure

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what do you want to what do you want to hit him with first why don't we talk PQ

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321 sure sure all right so anante has one of the first

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reviews out there of the PQ 321 Q Ultra

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HD monitor living with a 31 1/2 in 4k

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desktop display so guys I do highly

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recommend taking a complete sort of you know it probably only take you about 15

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minutes 20 minutes long read through the review because they touch on some really

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interesting points about this for those of you who don't know one of the first

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4K desktop monitors that is actually intended to be hooked up to a computer

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yeah what's your take on this I read through the review yeah and the first

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thing that I noticed was he said the color gamut wasn't exactly where he hoped it would be it was almost 100% of

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srgb if I recall correctly but some of it was in the wrong yeah wrong spots so

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so it's exciting because they're getting these lower size 4K resolutions and one

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thing that he said is a he kind of expected um it to not be that big of a

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difference because it's so close to him yeah but that he instantly noticed that

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it was so much sharper yes I mean I could have told there I think Chris

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Chris is the reviewer over there that that did this particular write up and I

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could have told him a 4k monitor was going to make a very very big difference

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but for me to invest $3,500 I mean I had

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talked about you know maybe I want to go 4K but the reality of it is is there's a

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couple reasons why I'm not ready would I be willing to sell my bike and drop all

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of that money that I get back for it on a monitor potentially yes especially

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then mind you I'm back on my bike for this season and I'm kind of questioning

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how I could have ever been crazy enough to think about that but I was going to

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say now that it's summertime you're actually riding it that's

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yeah but the the flip side of that or

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the but the the other hand of that discussion is yeah it's it's expensive

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would I be willing to drop the money maybe but there's still some problems y

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so the display standards aren't really ready yet for

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the most part HDMI is not going to be ready until HDMI 2.0 when we're going to

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be able to drive 4K at 60 HZ off of a single interface when I was talking to

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the ASUS guys that were at Lan couver uh

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they were saying that part of the reason that they didn't have games running on

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the one that was there was that they needed some driver hookum hookum

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whatever word you want to use for it in order to have the two display

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interfaces work correctly as a as as as

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teaming together to drive a single panel so that to me is a big concern as well

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is what happens to this weird Nish product that ASUS sells however many

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they sell like I'm not going to say 10

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but I'm also not going to say 10,000 in North America anyway and that's the

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danger is what happens to weird nich products that lead the charge on some

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kind of a new technology and then ultimately get abandoned look at the x25

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M from Intel of all of all companies and the x2e people invested a ton of money

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into those early gen ssds they never got

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trim they never got proper they never

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they never got proper garbage collection if I recall correctly like they just

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kind of got abandoned because they didn't sell enough for it to be worth

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the R&D time of fixing it after the fact

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and that's a really good point because it's it's prohibitively expensive yes it

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has its problems yes what I'm excited for is when they get it smaller size cuz

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31 and2 is huge 31 30 in is already like

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I I used 30in for quite a while and I got used to it but then what happened

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was I recently switched back to 24 and even though it was noticeable I don't

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really miss that huge I miss the resolution yeah love to have the

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resolution back but exactly I'm excited

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for 24 in I'm excited to buy two 24in 4K

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monitors that are affordable what do you consider affordable I don't know would

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you spend 750 each no cuz it's going to be a long time

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before they're going to be less than that yes but I'm very happy with my current monitors true true that and I'm

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totally fine with waiting so it's you

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had really really good points it's interesting buying in on technology like this I think I've done it once I bought

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a Nia okay it wasn't it wasn't super expensive it was fun though okay so it

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would it was fundamentally broken yes it was terrible but it was fun okay I

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enjoyed messing around with it I got my money out of it I was happy it got abandoned that's fine okay whereas and

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I'm not saying that this monitor is not going to work 3 years from now it will

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and DisplayPort is a much better solution than you know dual HDMI in but

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there's all those early growing paines I mean early 2560 X 1600 monitors none of

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them had onscreen displays because the processing chips required to um none of

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them had scalers so the because the processing required to do all this stuff

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was just Out Of Reach so you just had to drive it natively um and so the onscreen

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display ain't great on this thing but one thing that's cool about the uh about

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the PQ 321 Q is that the input leg isn't

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bad yeah that's outstanding it's about the same as the pb278 which I have two

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of them incoming when they finally get in stock at the place I've ordered them

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um and I've gamed on that monitor not bad it's not a CRT but it's not bad so

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uh that I find really exciting how close we are from that perspective but uh yeah

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I think that's it's exciting and if you have the money that's great but o yeah a

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lot of money it's a lot of money it's a lot of money I saw actually it's not in

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the uh it's not in our show do but I saw someone was running three of the sharp

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displays uh in in ifinity off of a 7970

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uh Matrix or whatever from Theus so it's like

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12K display essentially just absurd

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unbelievable he had them on loan so it's like $10,000 worth of displays right um

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that's the other thing that I'm really waiting for with 4K is more competition

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you look what happened with TVs with Seiko just kind of Marching In and being

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like yo guys this doesn't cost that much not a great TV but still in fact the

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reviews are terrible yeah they're basically saying don't bother just go

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get a 1080 PTV but um but I'm waiting for someone other

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than freaking sharp to have something other than a 32in panel I mean that's a

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professional geared product in the first place well the the the Dell leaks are

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pretty much just product numbers as I tell sure it's in here somewhere as far

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as I could tell what the Del leak is that they're basically just product numbers but one thing that I saw was I

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think it was like 2414 and it seemed like they all all the

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4K ones ended in 14 so that got me excited because 24 in I'm assuming the

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first two numbers are inch so 24 in uh

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4k monitor which is what I'm super excited for I'm sure it's going to be way too expensive but that's that's the

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size that I'm excited for with that said Dell's been reasonably reasonable about

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some stuff so this was submitted on the Linus Tech tips Forum by snow Comet so

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uh it was a leak in the Soundbar manual

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because their Soundbar I don't know if you're familiar with it is usually uh

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cross compatible with multiple Dell monitors so here are the leaked models

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the up 320 3 3214 Q so that is in all

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likelihood of 4K 32 in using the same EXO panel as everyone else that's

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another thing is when we get more panel manufacturers playing the game yeah

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that's going to help a lot the up 2414 Q

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the U24 14h and then

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u3415w so Q might be 4K or whatever else

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fascinating I I I still have oh oh just

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an FYI guys this IP is not the IP of the poster I forgot again to uh log into a

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different account guys if you if you were to watch our streams over sort of a

00:18:23.520 --> 00:18:29.240
longer period of time you'd notice that IPS repeat themselves a fair bit because

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they are the IPS that have to do with the security system for our Forum not to

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do with the actual members of our Forum so there you go just throwing that out

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there let's go ahead and uh move on to

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our next topic shall we NVIDIA has a new Quadro video card so they just recently

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unveiled so this was submitted by ich chondo the quadro k6000 GPU so this is

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based on a Titan GK 110 core it has 12

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gigs we'll let that sink in for a

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moment 12 gigs of gddr5 memory and uh

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that makes it pretty much when it comes to 3D rendering uh animation simulation

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applications pretty much the fastest

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possible GPU that can exist right now um

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now we'll talk about that a little bit so there's a couple of really great

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great quotes uh from pix so this is their uh uh vice president of software

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R&D the Kepler features are key to our next Generation real-time lighting and

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geometry handling if you guys have seen Monsters U yet you may have noticed that

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there's a completely different look to that film compared to previous Pixar

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films because instead of manually um

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programming lighting they're actually having the lighting Just Bounce Around

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the way that it normally would making it much more natural looking so we were

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thrilled to get an early look at the k6000 the added memory and other

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features allows artist to see much more of the final scene in realtime

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interactive form and allows many more artistic

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iterations um and then uh niss is saying

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that they can view they can pull up almost an entire car in like realistic

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life lifelike realism to you know look

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at things and Tinker with it and all that kind of stuff and then they have

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another one from Apache um that combined

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with Leap Motion could be really cool oh yeah I know right Compu are computers

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are changing um so yeah Apachi is energy

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for energy exp exploration they're saying Drilling in the wrong place can be a multi-million dollar mistake and

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the k6000 gives the edge to make better

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decisions wow that's a little bit blunt

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yeah it's like yeah we needed this power

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otherwise yeah all the dollars just byebye so in addition to all of

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that I would like to settle once and for

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all that just because a graphics card

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costs $5,000 versus something like a

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Titan that costs $1,000 and is actually built on the same architecture that has

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nothing to do with gaming

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performance these cards are not gaming

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cards they use workstation grade memory

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for example because you can't afford to make a mistake they have the full

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capability of their double Precision calculations that they need to do they

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have software features that are not enabled on desktop Parts they are bended

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to a higher degree of quality they are expected to last longer run under lower

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thermal EnV run inside lower thermal envelopes for example the quadro and

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Diesel's workstation on the desktop side

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or for the for the graphics side the GeForce side was a dual slot cooler his

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is a single slot cooler because it's a better Bend part and they were able to

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achieve that with that particular card so guys I'm so tired of seeing uh Builds

00:22:04.760 --> 00:22:12.480
on PC part picker that are like yeah I did an ultimate build I put in four

00:22:09.600 --> 00:22:18.240
quadrant no you didn't because that's not for gaming so there you go uh why

00:22:16.120 --> 00:22:21.760
don't we do a quick Twitter Blitz and uh I'll I'll do this blitz while you get

00:22:20.120 --> 00:22:28.360
Lou on the line sure sure do you have the snowball set up oh yep oh oh oh um

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oh I'll figure it out here sweet all

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right all right cool actually uh I've got I've got comms I've got comms up

00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:38.120
here is uh yeah yeah L he's in the channel already l in the channel already

00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:43.840
so we should be ready to go pretty quick after this Twitter Blitz here guys here

00:22:40.760 --> 00:22:46.039
we go I have an i5 3450 I want to

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upgrade an m a designer I use Photoshop and Maya any suggestions um you know

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what you're going to get a bit of a performance increase especially if you go for something like a K series

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processor a 4670k and overclock it or even a 4770k because you will be able to

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take advantage of hyper reading with that said if um if your workloads

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perform well on an AMD pile driver chip something like an 8350 is a great value

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but um you know what I guess what I'd probably do is 3770k for you because you

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don't have to change your board and um

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and you're going to get you're going to be able to take advantage of hyperthreading as well as potentially

00:23:19.159 --> 00:23:26.039
overclocking that CPU can you run games in multim monitor

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across um oh okay yeah unbox therapy is

00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:33.559
ready to go but we're not quite ready for for just yet so uh I'm going to

00:23:31.080 --> 00:23:36.000
finish this blitz there you go uh you guys really need to look at the camera

00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:42.240
more rather than talking just to yourselves thank you Muhammad for the feedback um there's only so much we can

00:23:39.840 --> 00:23:47.120
do someone asks Afterparty yes there will be an Afterparty I made a video

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about the ASUS 4k display they used a the ifinity for merging two halves of

00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:56.919
the display oh PC per made a video about it cool going live in about 10 minutes

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come say hi Oh thanks for tweeting that Lou um you know what let's go back and

00:23:59.320 --> 00:24:05.840
let's see what some of the oh the Apple TV got moved any air water coolers that

00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:11.799
would be good for overclocking at 3570k something like an h100i would be a great

00:24:08.600 --> 00:24:15.039
choice yeah yeah on the air cooling side

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um I love the Silver Arrow NH

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hd4 these are all high-end Solutions you can also pick up a hyper 212 plus like

00:24:20.600 --> 00:24:27.120
like the masses uh 12K setup how will the GPU keep up with this it'll be quite

00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:30.520
difficult we need more GPU power apparently we're on the front page of

00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:33.760
twitch that's outstanding that's awesome should I get you should get neither of

00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:39.159
those things they are both wastes of money just outright wastes of money oh

00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:44.000
you you know what we should do a video on like just how utterly asinine it is

00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:49.120
to buy a low-end graphics card we'd have to get one we'll just buy it they only

00:24:46.600 --> 00:24:52.559
cost like $20 so who cares really I've never even looked I know no I've

00:24:51.120 --> 00:24:57.360
actually never looked at the price of like like the price to Performance ratio

00:24:55.360 --> 00:25:02.880
of these cards is just broken it's just horrible don't even bother slick have

00:25:00.320 --> 00:25:06.480
you played Skyrim legendary Edition yep and have you gotten into Clos beta even

00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:11.080
if I that would be under NDA even if I was

00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:15.520
I farted on the laptop and a little bit of smoke came out of it okay all right

00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:18.720
so let's go ahead and have Lou join us then at this point because apparently

00:25:16.840 --> 00:25:25.600
things have gotten a little bit silly so I'm going to go ahead and add a media

00:25:22.080 --> 00:25:28.080
file where we have a oh diesel didn't

00:25:25.600 --> 00:25:33.720
put it in the this folder but it's okay because cuz I got this i got this i got

00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:36.320
this L unbox therapy bam there's a

00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:40.679
portrait there's the guy who will be joining us right

00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:48.039
about now hey Lou how are you he will be

00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:54.279
connected in a second he'll be connected in a second yep oh all right he's got to

00:25:51.520 --> 00:25:57.520
turn on his mic so Lou apologizes in advance for his microphone it's

00:25:56.120 --> 00:26:02.159
apparently not that great I haven't heard it yet but not that B it's not

00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:05.799
terrible but L you're going to want to mute the

00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:11.679
stream over there how about now how about now am I

00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.679
there yet you are

00:26:12.840 --> 00:26:17.120
here you guys all right there we

00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:26.760
go jumping down sorry hello hello hello

00:26:23.320 --> 00:26:26.760
you are live

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yeah we can turn him up a little bit I

00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:38.600
think all right so you are our very

00:26:35.840 --> 00:26:43.360
second special guest and uh we are extremely excited to have you join us do

00:26:40.600 --> 00:26:46.480
you want to take just a brief moment and uh sort of introduce yourself to the

00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:51.279
audience those of you who AR familiar can't hear you um let me see there's

00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:56.559
something going on here he can't hear us apparently oh okay okay well in that

00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:59.159
case he you guys I'll say a little bit

00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:03.860
about what uh oh hold on I wonder if it's our fault

00:27:01.840 --> 00:27:06.799
still pretty quiet I can't hear

00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:12.200
anything just using this just using it

00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:15.760
okay yeah and it shows if it shows a light there it means it's picking up

00:27:14.360 --> 00:27:20.799
hear you guys I don't know if you can hear me or not uh oh hold on let's uh

00:27:19.360 --> 00:27:23.640
let's hit him on the chat should I try and jump out and jump back I got it I

00:27:22.360 --> 00:27:30.960
got it you can hear me but I can't hear you

00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:33.919
yeah I think our audience can hear

00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:38.679
you okay Lou's going to try reconnecting so I'm going to give you guys a little

00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:40.919
bit of a brief history of unbox therapy

00:27:38.679 --> 00:27:46.960
so unbox therapy is a channel that as you may or may not have deduced at this

00:27:43.320 --> 00:27:50.399
point is centered around the concept of

00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:52.840
unboxing as a way to clearly demonstrate

00:27:50.399 --> 00:27:58.600
a product and to really give people that hands-on experience yeah you can hear me

00:27:55.320 --> 00:28:00.600
but um when we tested it earlier I heard

00:27:58.600 --> 00:28:07.279
you uh loud and clear now nothing I could just see the

00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.279
chat

00:28:07.320 --> 00:28:17.320
mhm okay well here we

00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:18.679
go wait what's that this is also your

00:28:17.320 --> 00:28:23.120
okay so if you close that one is it possible that'll address it I guess it's

00:28:20.399 --> 00:28:29.120
possible it shouldn't really but okay I'm going to turn it off and start it

00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:29.120
again Lou can you hear me

00:28:31.399 --> 00:28:33.640
oh

00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:41.799
boy well we're having one of those moments here

00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:49.760
guys we are going to try no I just checked that we did test this before the

00:28:47.360 --> 00:28:54.919
show so uh it worked totally fine worked 100%

00:28:52.919 --> 00:28:59.640
correctly I don't think I don't think it's my end only because I didn't change

00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:05.840
anything I literally let this thing sit here prior to uh the stream and I was

00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:10.440
talking earlier when we did the test run all right I think I don't know why I

00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:15.159
can't hear you guys though okay we're going to relaunch

00:29:12.679 --> 00:29:17.960
comms and we'll be back in just tight and leave it the way it

00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:26.880
is okay there we go let's try this one more time so I've had a bit of a monkey

00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:32.799
wrench thrown in my whole introduction of Lou

00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:34.240
oh monkey wrenches love Mony wrenches

00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:39.080
it's hard to do a topic in the meantime if we're trying to get audio running

00:29:36.360 --> 00:29:44.080
here uh that is a good point although I can do a other random topic sure go for

00:29:42.159 --> 00:29:48.120
it give me one quick second to jump onto something

00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:50.480
here that was a community item so I'm going to have to find something that

00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:55.200
isn't because I can't link to the screen that's going to be interesting uh

00:29:53.039 --> 00:30:01.559
there's a case starter project that got destroyed basically oo I wanted to talk

00:29:57.760 --> 00:30:01.559
about this with Lou okay

00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:07.080
okay oh I got you

00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:14.159
now I I was a little bit worried there for a minute but the wonders of

00:30:26.120 --> 00:30:32.799
Technology oh wow um yeah a little bit

00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:38.440
of background I I guess I I think I started by accident um I I just uh

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:43.320
wanted to make the same kind of videos I guess that oh is am I too

00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.240
quiet who's

00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:53.480
quiet oh my

00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:03.039
God I can hear you guys I can hear you guys perfectly but I don't think anybody

00:31:00.320 --> 00:31:03.039
can hear anyone

00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:10.399
else who oh boy okay can the stream hear

00:31:08.120 --> 00:31:17.440
us now everyone said they can just hear Lou

00:31:15.159 --> 00:31:25.000
and apparently Lou broke the uh the entire internet so um hold on a second

00:31:21.840 --> 00:31:26.919
let's go ahead and try try something

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:31.840
here oh boy you got to tell him to come over

00:32:02.679 --> 00:32:12.799
oh it's Windows oh my God hey okay this doesn't

00:32:08.919 --> 00:32:17.200
work now are we good no I don't think so

00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:19.919
oh yes we're good boom it was Windows

00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:28.120
blaming me well could have been your fault just as easily as anything else it

00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:30.080
was all right so Lou tell us about unbo

00:32:28.120 --> 00:32:33.440
therapy tell us how you got started on this stuff and hopefully they can

00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:37.840
actually hear you this time right I I see some comments saying Lou Lou is fine

00:32:35.639 --> 00:32:42.679
so I guess they can hear me um we're good now what's up everybody thank you

00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:47.279
for having me on uh the show today first of all I want to get that out of the way

00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:52.279
and uh yeah to answer your question I've been doing this for about two and a half

00:32:49.120 --> 00:32:55.880
years I think and uh in the beginning it

00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:59.000
was pretty it was Amateur hour and we've

00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:01.600
sort of slowly improved improved the

00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:06.279
operation uh and and added a little bit of production value and had had a couple

00:33:03.679 --> 00:33:10.519
of different people working on it and uh I guess our approach since since the

00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:15.559
beginning was to sort of add some cinematic value to the process of making

00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:20.360
Tech videos or making product based videos so when did you feel like it

00:33:17.919 --> 00:33:23.519
really exploded for you I mean I know that already because I've been keeping a

00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:28.480
very close eye on you since you had around oneth the number of subscribers

00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:33.480
you have now by the way congratulations you broke 500,000 I believe

00:33:30.919 --> 00:33:39.840
today uh yeah I think yeah either today or yesterday um yeah pretty crazy just a

00:33:36.320 --> 00:33:42.679
lot of people but um yeah I think uh for

00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:47.039
me it probably picked up somewhere I want to say like maybe a year and a half

00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:51.120
in or something like that where I realized that this was a real thing that

00:33:49.679 --> 00:33:56.000
people were doing professionally and I guess I I I started

00:33:53.840 --> 00:33:59.559
to put a different level of focus onto it and to be honest with you like I I

00:33:57.840 --> 00:34:03.240
mean I love doing it at this point in time I really couldn't imagine you know

00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:07.399
having a regular day job or something like that this is uh it really I mean it

00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:13.599
gets cliche because a lot of people say it but it's it's one of the best things to do as as you

00:34:10.520 --> 00:34:16.079
know I I really do we're uh we're both

00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:21.200
in very unique positions where where we have these huge established audiences

00:34:18.720 --> 00:34:26.280
and it gives the flexibility to try things and to experiment and to start to

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:30.079
have some fun with it now I wanted to talk to you about this before we really

00:34:27.879 --> 00:34:35.440
dive into some of our regular W show topics I get asked this all the time and

00:34:33.040 --> 00:34:41.960
I have my sort of standard response that I usually say but people ask me how do I

00:34:38.839 --> 00:34:45.879
get started on this

00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:47.560
right yeah I know it's uh you could have

00:34:45.879 --> 00:34:51.320
you could have an inbox full of those question on a daily basis and I was on

00:34:49.720 --> 00:34:56.720
actually on a broadcast yesterday and we sort of covered a similar topic because

00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:00.880
uh you know honestly when I started out I didn't I ever I don't think I reached

00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:05.839
out to anyone with that particular question and part of that had to do I

00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:10.520
guess part of that had to do with me making some assumptions maybe some

00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:14.440
educated assumptions that that this having having success in this particular

00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:19.079
arena being such a new one was going to require some Ingenuity and some trial

00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:23.440
and error and all of those things and so when people ask me for a set of

00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:27.400
guidelines I mean there are way too many variables that play for me to give you a

00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:31.359
Playbook on how to get viewers on YouTube YouTube or how to have success

00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:35.359
or how to add subscribers because at the end of the day you're making a piece of

00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:39.440
entertainment and what people find entertaining or what people are drawn

00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:43.040
towards is relatively subjective how do you know before getting into it whether

00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:45.960
or not you're entertaining or whether or not people give a [ __ ] about what you're

00:35:44.560 --> 00:35:52.359
saying I mean you just don't know until you try absolutely I think that's a very

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:57.079
good point and the the the the funny thing about that is that was one of the

00:35:54.640 --> 00:36:02.599
things that made me notice you and what you were doing because up until then as

00:35:59.680 --> 00:36:10.119
far as Tech unboxings went there was only a maybe a handful of guys who were

00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:12.040
my size or bigger or even close and what

00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:16.000
I noticed about the approach that you had was it was completely different from

00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:20.520
what anyone else was doing where you were taking on boxing and you were

00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:24.520
putting your own spin on it and I think a lot of people I mean a lot of people

00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:28.280
send me their gameplay videos or their uh let's plays hey lonus can you check

00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:34.640
this out and give me your feedback and I kind of look at it and I go well what have you done that's different and I

00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:39.079
think that might be the solution right I mean it's never it's never a bad idea to

00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:43.240
innovate uh you know you can't go the other way where you try so hard to do

00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:49.480
something unusual and it could be terrible too so I mean I mean it it it

00:36:47.040 --> 00:36:53.560
really requires some attention to detail and some attention to uh the reaction of

00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:57.000
your viewers I mean you do have to listen you do need to pay attention if

00:36:55.119 --> 00:37:01.480
you can't answer every single comment or engage with every single user you can at

00:36:59.640 --> 00:37:05.319
least read through some stuff and and and sort of get an idea of what's

00:37:02.839 --> 00:37:08.240
working and what isn't working and and that really helps you to edit yourself

00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:12.480
because that's what that's one of the most difficult things to do uh in this

00:37:11.040 --> 00:37:16.440
business when you're working in relatively small companies or even by

00:37:14.359 --> 00:37:20.000
yourself in the beginning is how do you how do you determine what to leave in

00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:23.960
and what to take out it's very difficult when when it's only yourself working on

00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:27.520
it absolutely and you know what I think this leads into one of our discussion

00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:33.280
topics really well small inter interaction versus big interaction so

00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:40.040
things like Twitter Vine Instagram versus Facebook go+ YouTube how do you

00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.599
how do you feel that these things complement each other or compete with

00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:48.720
each other you know um this is a this is a

00:37:46.680 --> 00:37:53.480
pretty interesting topic to me like I I'm I have a a pretty significant level

00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:57.920
of interest at least I think so in in social media and how it all uh affects

00:37:56.160 --> 00:38:02.319
my business I mean I guess the same could be said for a lot of other businesses but mine in particular I

00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:06.000
think I think you could you can really notice a huge increase in your traction

00:38:04.240 --> 00:38:10.720
if if you can get a grip and get a handle on social media um especially

00:38:09.160 --> 00:38:16.359
with with when we get into another topic that we're going to talk about today regarding the subboxes on YouTube but um

00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:22.760
but but but before we get there it's like yeah um Facebook I recently I recently

00:38:20.319 --> 00:38:28.000
switched my P my regular human profile to one of what they call a brand page

00:38:25.200 --> 00:38:32.640
and uh after doing that I noticed a couple of things that occurred first of

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:35.240
all I was reaching fewer people but uh

00:38:32.640 --> 00:38:38.040
as a as a side effect of that it meant that some things were modified in my

00:38:36.680 --> 00:38:42.280
account where I wasn't getting the same number of personal interactions in my

00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:46.839
inbox because for for somebody who gets a lot of communication in inbox whether

00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:51.319
it be on YouTube or Facebook is an incredibly terrible place to communicate

00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:56.319
um because horrible because what ends up happening is that you end up

00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:59.839
communicating with one individual with your answer nothing is public and as a

00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:05.599
result you end up answering the same thing a hundred different times and when

00:39:02.520 --> 00:39:08.040
you're when you're when you become uh

00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:12.560
you know a glorified uh Administration person you can't be making videos it's

00:39:10.040 --> 00:39:16.359
impossible to to handle both so I much prefer Twitter from that standpoint

00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:21.760
because the conversations are generally public and mostly public and they're

00:39:18.560 --> 00:39:24.680
short and so short when you have social

00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:28.960
interaction on a format like Twitter uh essentially the the comments become or

00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:33.240
the the at messages become like headlines like in a newspaper and when

00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:36.960
you scan a newspaper you can easily sort through what is the relevant information

00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:41.480
what do I need to get back to um you can triage the news essentially and your and

00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:46.480
and the communication that your audience has with you becomes news uh versus this

00:39:44.560 --> 00:39:51.800
little thing off in private somewhere in an inbox that H that is very difficult

00:39:49.640 --> 00:39:55.800
to triage very difficult to quickly look at an inbox and say this is important

00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:59.960
this is not important and and where where can I start to work I mean I

00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:04.000
basically avoid inboxes at all costs now uh Twitter Twitter is probably your best

00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:07.599
chance to get in touch with me and to get a response because at least I know

00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:12.160
if I respond to you other people can then go look at that response if they

00:40:09.560 --> 00:40:15.599
have the same question absolutely and I mean I think uh one of the strengths of

00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:20.160
Twitter leading into our next discussion topic which is why is the YouTube

00:40:17.640 --> 00:40:25.200
subscription feed always broken yeah um I have heard I have heard

00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:29.000
some people some other YouTubers that I communicate with that have had contact

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:34.680
with Google Google themselves and I have heard that it is intentionally broken um

00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:37.920
and and and the theory behind that is similar to what's happening on Facebook

00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:43.040
right now which is that people are inundated with content that the power

00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:46.839
users are subscribed to so many channels that uh it becomes difficult for YouTube

00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:52.839
to figure out what it is that they actually want to watch and that's why I think they moveed to that activity feed

00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:56.400
or what to watch next on mobile devices I think they think better than they

00:40:54.680 --> 00:41:02.040
think they know better than you do as far as what you want to watch and so

00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:06.720
they can use possibly they could be using a previous viewership data to

00:41:04.319 --> 00:41:10.560
decide whether or not a subscription you have is something that you watch every

00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:16.200
single time and whether or not to feed that back into the subbox OR to rec put

00:41:13.160 --> 00:41:18.119
a some recommended video there or to uh

00:41:16.200 --> 00:41:21.760
you know to leave it out uh I think this is especially a problem when you produce

00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:27.520
a ton of content especially like you guys do um if you're putting up two

00:41:24.040 --> 00:41:29.000
three four videos in one day it seems to

00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:35.560
that the likelihood that that video is going to get lost and not reach the boxes becomes that much more likely

00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:40.200
absolutely this is very true and this is one of the reasons for the longest time

00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:43.000
I completely ignored Twitter Facebook and all of that stuff because partly

00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:50.079
because it didn't really matter to me because I was working at a retailer I had my day job YouTube was a side

00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:52.000
project for me but also partly because

00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:57.359
um or not that well that's why I ignored it um and then the reason I started

00:41:54.119 --> 00:42:00.839
paying attention to it was because of

00:41:57.359 --> 00:42:03.520
needing to own the audience in a in a

00:42:00.839 --> 00:42:08.680
way that goes beyond um you know Google's Divine will and how they've

00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:12.240
decided that you should be allowed to interact I mean there's so many things

00:42:10.319 --> 00:42:15.920
on YouTube that you look at that are look like they're broken on purpose

00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:22.480
things like the subscription feed things like the inbox this is the creator of

00:42:19.040 --> 00:42:25.559
Gmail and the conversation thread

00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:28.720
concept yep YouTube has the worst inbox

00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:31.000
in the world it's true yeah I don't I

00:42:28.720 --> 00:42:37.160
don't I mean it really doesn't look like their intention is for people to enjoy

00:42:33.680 --> 00:42:38.640
using the the inbox the inbox right now

00:42:37.160 --> 00:42:42.800
I mean they could they could completely get rid of the Inbox and I'd be fine

00:42:40.200 --> 00:42:47.359
with it absolutely and there are other things that are exactly the same looking

00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:51.680
at like uh they don't want you to have access directly to your audience they

00:42:49.160 --> 00:42:55.559
want to control that so things like how you used to be able to back in the day

00:42:53.640 --> 00:43:00.559
this is maybe before your time but you used to be able to go through a list

00:42:57.640 --> 00:43:05.240
of every single one of your subscribers that's true yeah yeah I recall such a

00:43:02.240 --> 00:43:09.480
thing gone yeah they don't want you to

00:43:05.240 --> 00:43:11.440
know as a user sorry as a user one thing

00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.880
that annoys me is there's channels that I subscribe to this actually happened to

00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:18.720
me a few days ago I briefly mentioned it to you there's channels that I

00:43:16.200 --> 00:43:22.119
subscribed to like a year or two ago because I watched their stuff and

00:43:20.040 --> 00:43:26.440
enjoyed it and then watched a random video by them recently when oh that's

00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:31.400
really cool I should subscribe to these guys realize I was already subscribed to

00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:35.240
them and went that's interesting I check YouTube almost every day and I've never

00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:39.839
seen one of their videos in my subscription fee right which is nuts

00:43:38.040 --> 00:43:43.240
because yeah I think I think I don't think you're the only one who's had had

00:43:41.520 --> 00:43:48.440
an experience like that I get messages on Twitter um fairly regularly that that

00:43:46.319 --> 00:43:52.520
things aren't reaching the subbox and you end up figuring out that the ones

00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:55.480
who end up being that percentage that watch every single video they're they're

00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:59.640
your super fans they're the ones who actually go out of their way to visit

00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:03.400
the channel to verify that they that they've seen everything and and what

00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:08.559
what's worked out on the network in terms of the number of fans that fit

00:44:05.680 --> 00:44:12.720
into that category is about like 10% you know which is a which is pretty sad when

00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:17.240
you think about it because you would assume that clicking a subscription

00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:21.119
button is a fairly committal kind of thing it's like you know you're you're

00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:25.559
saying that you want to see more content so the idea that only 10% of people

00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:30.319
after the fact actually follow through on that seems pretty hard to believe

00:44:27.640 --> 00:44:34.040
I think for me if I look at the analytics numbers because we can see

00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:37.520
where views come from I think when I look at it on the videos that do really

00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:42.480
well where it's a Hot Topic something like the Razer Blade 14 that we that we

00:44:40.040 --> 00:44:47.839
launched a couple of days ago yeah um I'll get probably around 40,000 views

00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:54.599
from subscribers which is exactly right there in that 10% of my total subscriber

00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:57.240
number which is obviously a

00:44:54.599 --> 00:45:03.400
fabrication well I mean if you've got fourou 400,000 users that share uh uh

00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:07.920
you know the same kind of uh opinion and taste when it comes to content and

00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:12.520
entertainment uh subject matter Etc you would assume that more than 10% would be

00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:17.680
interested in a razor blade unboxing like that is like right in line with the

00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.880
reason they subscribed so I I agree with you there seems to be something else at

00:45:19.160 --> 00:45:24.640
play let's just hope it doesn't get to a point where we have to start paying to

00:45:22.520 --> 00:45:28.559
reach people like on Facebook well what it started to feel like to me because

00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:32.559
I'm looking cuz one of the one of the metrics I remember talking to you about

00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:35.760
this uh we we ended up talking on the phone for like 4 hours or something

00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:40.960
stupid like that this was back when I first met Lou and I think the the

00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:46.040
conversation then was the metric that I look at for how strong a channel is is

00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:50.640
the new subscriber growth rate how many new people click that button every

00:45:48.160 --> 00:45:56.440
single day and I've been looking at the numbers and I go okay every day a

00:45:53.880 --> 00:46:01.599
thousand new people click the button for both you and me sort of that 800 to a000

00:45:59.040 --> 00:46:06.240
range why is it that when I release a video The Day After That thousand people

00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:10.920
click maybe 10 of them or a hundred of them actually look at it they just

00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:18.359
clicked yeah it is I mean it's it's it's pretty complicated I don't know I I

00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:20.480
assume that there's some elaborate kind

00:46:18.359 --> 00:46:23.960
of uh algorithm there that that figures out how they're going to distribute this

00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:28.359
content I know they're obsessed right now with viewer viewing sessions more so

00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:34.280
than than they are with view counts in general and they they may think that

00:46:30.839 --> 00:46:37.440
they can recommend content to users that

00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:39.640
might increase their SE session length

00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:43.760
and and that that's more important to their endgame than it is for uh the user

00:46:42.240 --> 00:46:46.920
to get what they think they want I think Google much like in a bunch of their

00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:51.800
other products thinks that they know what we want more than we

00:46:48.720 --> 00:46:53.240
do that's and and like I can understand

00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:57.200
that from a certain degree but not necessarily because there's certain

00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:00.480
types of content like Vice I like watching Vice but I'll sit down and

00:46:58.640 --> 00:47:04.359
watch a whole thing of Vice but I don't want my entire subscription box to be

00:47:02.200 --> 00:47:09.640
Vice other videos I'll script through it to see what I want I'll enjoy seeing

00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:13.480
more of those than the vice videos but it'll give me less because I'm skipping

00:47:11.040 --> 00:47:17.040
through it right whereas I might watch one or two Vice videos but I watch the

00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:23.559
whole thing so my whole feed is always just Vice yep yeah I mean I see yeah I

00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:28.520
mean I think like the the the Twitter model should should should work just as

00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:31.559
well here I I don't click on every link that somebody posts but it doesn't mean

00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:35.559
that I don't want to see their tweets that's right and if I didn't want to see

00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:40.839
it will the unsubscriber or the unfollow buttons right there yep yep 100% I mean

00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:46.000
there are there are a million ways to do this that are user-driven but Google

00:47:43.160 --> 00:47:49.680
finds automated systems to be much more interesting so how do you feel as a

00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:55.960
content creator do you feel like you need to divest from the YouTube

00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:57.839
platform um I don't think so I mean I

00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:03.839
think my goals have sort of changed as things as things have gone along uh you

00:48:01.040 --> 00:48:07.920
know I think uh in in the beginning I thought AdSense was the be all and end

00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:12.800
all like it would it would be sort of what we all relied upon but uh going

00:48:10.720 --> 00:48:17.000
forward I realized that that real relationships meeting people uh creating

00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:21.520
Connections in the entertainment business and elsewhere uh have the

00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:25.760
potential to bring real value to what you're doing and to to you know

00:48:24.040 --> 00:48:30.880
potentially give you access to resources that you never even realized you wanted

00:48:28.040 --> 00:48:34.839
and and uh you know for me that means getting super creative like i' I guess

00:48:33.200 --> 00:48:38.119
I've always been a creative person but I never imagined that at any point I'd be

00:48:36.839 --> 00:48:42.880
sitting around trying to come up with the next idea for some some new video

00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:48.920
but I think that YouTube for me rather than be uh you know my boss like I

00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:53.640
originally looked at it now it's just um it's an outlet it happens to be the

00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:58.559
platform the player essentially for for what I'm doing but I think that there

00:48:55.720 --> 00:49:02.880
are probably many different ways to create businesses around the idea of

00:49:00.160 --> 00:49:06.880
delivering video content online uh that maybe aren't necessarily YouTube I mean

00:49:05.240 --> 00:49:10.400
I know a lot of networks all the large networks uh the first thing they'll do

00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:14.119
when you sign with them is they will make sure that your content is places

00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:19.400
other than YouTube I mean they'll get it on Daily Motion and they'll get it on uh

00:49:17.319 --> 00:49:23.920
blip blip TV I mean they'll put anywhere they can put it they will put it and if

00:49:22.200 --> 00:49:27.920
the networks continue to grow and continue to gather as much Steam and and

00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:32.880
and be as powerful as they are and as they will be um I could totally imagine

00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:36.920
them becoming their own conglomerate I mean the the power that exists in

00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:40.599
networks now is is uh unbelievable I never would have imagined that that that

00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:46.880
was what was going to happen here and it surprises me that YouTube let it

00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:48.480
happen um yeah yeah I know it it um I

00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:53.160
mean they're they're they're still doing it they're still letting networks Sprout

00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:58.359
up from everywhere again I think Google is one of those companies that it's very

00:49:56.160 --> 00:50:02.920
difficult to figure out they play such a long game you know it's like it's like a

00:50:00.319 --> 00:50:06.200
chess match I have their their objective might be 10 steps down the road you

00:50:04.680 --> 00:50:10.559
never really know why they make the decisions they make and at first they

00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:14.960
might they they look really strange and and like they won't work but I mean some

00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:20.440
of these some of those networks have have been sold recently revision 3 sold

00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:22.760
the discovery um uh awesome awesomeness

00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:27.440
TV sold the DreamWorks and we're talking deals in the tens of millions of dollars

00:50:24.720 --> 00:50:31.400
maybe Google's goal in the short term is to bring some traditional Hollywood

00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:34.359
money into the Productions that are occurring on YouTube and maybe they were

00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:38.760
prepared to do that at a at a at a relatively large

00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:42.839
cost we we've we've actually covered that before channels being backed by

00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:46.839
like you just said traditional Hollywood money and it seems like it's going to

00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:52.119
happen another topic that we have in here is

00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:53.799
uh possible discussion is is this why

00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:57.400
New Media has a chance to swoop in and eat traditional media's lunch uh yes I'd

00:50:55.720 --> 00:51:01.960
like to I'd like to play this for the audience this is uh this is kind of

00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:06.839
hilarious so hold on I'm just going to go ahead and full screen this and we're

00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.839
going to switch to my laptop

00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.720
here oh yay touch

00:51:20.200 --> 00:51:27.640
screencap let's do flamingos this one flamingos elegant bird this is Long

00:51:24.839 --> 00:51:31.760
Island not Florida knows this time the boys are going over

00:51:29.319 --> 00:51:37.359
the if we don't finish this job we're not getting

00:51:32.720 --> 00:51:37.359
paid and bad attitude in

00:51:38.720 --> 00:51:43.480
fullo Island landscapers THS night at

00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:55.640
9 so back to what I was saying that this

00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.920
is why we both share view that big Hollywood money might be coming into

00:51:57.040 --> 00:52:04.040
YouTube because we need to get away from this trash and more towards stuff that's

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:08.839
being produced for platforms like YouTube and this is what allowed New

00:52:05.520 --> 00:52:11.760
Media to come and basically start eating

00:52:08.839 --> 00:52:16.920
their lunch but now is this is this it then is the answer somewhere in the

00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:20.240
middle where obviously like obviously

00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.799
shows like Breaking Bad are going to

00:52:20.240 --> 00:52:26.480
exist you need high production values people have an appetite for high

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:30.400
production values but they've also Dem demonstrated they have an appetite for

00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:35.760
this like weird Indie content that's like guys opening boxes or you know guys

00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:39.640
running around in sort of you know box armor hitting each other or whatever

00:52:37.359 --> 00:52:44.119
else it happens to be was the answer somewhere in the middle where we take

00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:47.960
that New Media creativity and that old media

00:52:45.640 --> 00:52:54.720
money and is that what YouTube will be in five years sure or even just a

00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:57.160
mix what do you think yeah yeah I mean

00:52:54.720 --> 00:52:59.920
uh I think I think it's you're probably right it'll probably end up somewhere in

00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:05.040
the middle I think what'll end up happening is guys like us regular dudes

00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:09.400
who never intended to be where we are will likely get access to resources that

00:53:07.240 --> 00:53:13.280
we never expected and what the outcome of that is it will be interesting to see

00:53:11.640 --> 00:53:18.400
I don't think we're that URI is necessarily going to go out even with a

00:53:15.520 --> 00:53:21.440
budget and necessarily make breaking bad but we might do

00:53:22.040 --> 00:53:27.359
things we could just start a meth lab

00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:31.920
but we you know we might do we might do things that people uh people enjoy and

00:53:29.799 --> 00:53:35.640
didn't didn't really know that they were were going to enjoy I mean I really

00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:42.799
think that the internet as a whole from a media delivery uh uh perspective has

00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:45.400
has really changed uh pop culture in a

00:53:42.799 --> 00:53:49.760
big way like I don't know in the future how easy it's going to be to Market

00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:54.480
something as as popular to everyone when we've all become so sophisticated in our

00:53:52.359 --> 00:53:58.400
own specific niches when we've decided like I mean you guys are on here on your

00:53:56.119 --> 00:54:02.559
Channel and on this stream Etc talking about incredibly sophisticated things in

00:54:00.359 --> 00:54:05.559
a particular subject matter that never could have happened on traditional media

00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:09.040
because you needed to find a message that was suitable for millions of people

00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:13.520
that you could you know cheaply broadcast on a dumb pipe to millions of

00:54:11.640 --> 00:54:17.640
people all at once since that's not the case anymore I think everything's going

00:54:15.520 --> 00:54:21.200
to get more interesting I think money in people's hands like you and I could

00:54:19.720 --> 00:54:25.640
produce some stuff that we never even knew we wanted I think a great example

00:54:24.200 --> 00:54:30.440
is something like video game high school too where it was crowdfunded and

00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:35.119
actually I want to transition into some of our crowdfunding topics coming very

00:54:32.520 --> 00:54:39.520
soon so it was crowdfunded and it is exactly what we're talking about where

00:54:36.720 --> 00:54:44.520
it's the creativity of these and I'm not taking anything away from Freddy Wong

00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:50.119
but relatively amateur folks they had some Talent uh but let's face it come on

00:54:47.680 --> 00:54:55.240
their scripting is terrible the acting is terrible comparatively it's really

00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:59.720
good for the platform it's on yes and it's really good for what they're but if

00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:05.040
they took the creativity the mind that is Freddy Wong and they gave him the

00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:07.079
money and the actors and the resources

00:55:05.040 --> 00:55:10.559
maybe he's the kind of guy who could take that and really find that middle

00:55:09.040 --> 00:55:15.599
ground and maybe Video Game High School season six or whatever his next major

00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:19.160
project is is that thing Freddy Wong's G be huge Freddy Wong is huge yeah I mean

00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:23.039
that's that's that's an important thing to remember I think is that you know the

00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:27.160
the the more opportunities that a content creator has to sort of hone

00:55:25.359 --> 00:55:31.760
their craft the better the stuff becomes if you look at our our early videos are

00:55:29.319 --> 00:55:35.960
are likely terrible um I mean I'll speak for myself I'm not going to speak for

00:55:33.160 --> 00:55:39.599
you oh mine are worse than yours so you know and and and as time goes on and as

00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.799
you produce more content that changes and I think it I think of course it'll

00:55:41.200 --> 00:55:47.480
be exactly the same for people like him that are working with larger budgets so

00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:51.920
let's talk crowdfunding for a little bit we actually have a few things on the uh

00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:57.000
on the stream or wait no I want to hear what you think of chomecast first your

00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:59.359
hands on with one right yep um I've been

00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:02.960
I've been playing with the chomecast uh since uh yesterday I first tested it out

00:56:01.720 --> 00:56:09.359
and then we've been messing around with it a little bit today as well um I mean

00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:10.920
it's 35 bucks it's crazy like I I I

00:56:09.359 --> 00:56:15.599
remember as a kid sitting around thinking it would be amazing to broadcast wirelessly what's on my

00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:21.280
computer onto my flat panel onto my bigger TV and the the fact that we can

00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:24.359
do that now in HD with a device that

00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:26.880
that is like the size of a USB key is um

00:56:24.359 --> 00:56:30.400
is pretty damn impressive and so um from a technical standpoint it works

00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:36.920
exactly as they say it's going to work I mean you can broad you broadcast a tab from your Chrome browser you install a

00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:42.720
uh a little extension it takes a couple of seconds finds it automatically and

00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:44.960
then uh in in the YouTube app on your

00:56:42.720 --> 00:56:48.119
mobile device as well you you'll see a a chomecast button and you can just

00:56:46.359 --> 00:56:52.559
immediately move anything you're watching from the couch up onto the up

00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:56.880
onto the flat panel and what I said in my video was the reason that this is so

00:56:55.039 --> 00:57:01.119
interesting to me is because the so far the YouTube experience from the couch is

00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:05.280
terrible like on every device uh you know whether it's a game console or the

00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:09.760
Apple TV or whatever like um searching for a video trying to have that sort

00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:14.319
sort of be a video DJ with a bunch of people sitting around has been a bad

00:57:11.160 --> 00:57:15.880
experience and this really changes that

00:57:14.319 --> 00:57:20.079
in a in a really big way and it does so at a price point that a lot of people

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:25.440
are going to be interested in now I've been saying this since I saw the first

00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:28.280
smart TV smart TV was Dead on Arrival it

00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:34.240
was it never stood a chance we already had things like Patriot box office and

00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:35.920
things like the ASUS o player WD Live

00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:40.640
our my TV live or whatever they called that thing we already had these things

00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:43.520
which were already better than the smart

00:57:40.640 --> 00:57:47.839
TV implementations that we have now all these years later and now Google's

00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:55.160
coming along and saying $35 don't worry about that smart TV it's

00:57:52.319 --> 00:57:59.720
over yeah no no I completely agree I mean it's amazing you walk into a Best

00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:04.960
Buy or future shop or whatever and you go through the TV aisle and they want to

00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:08.400
charge $1,000 for for smart features or

00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:09.920
at least 500 and I mean now they're

00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:14.359
going to have a little device sitting on the shelf next to it and any sales guy

00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:18.440
with a head on his shoulders is going to say listen get the dumbest panel you can

00:58:16.200 --> 00:58:24.079
and plug this little HDMI device in and you're going to be better off cuz and I

00:58:21.160 --> 00:58:27.400
love how it's it's Google so anyone could have released this and if it

00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:30.760
worked this way well been like ah 200 bucks 250 bucks and no one would have

00:58:29.520 --> 00:58:36.880
blinked an eye they would have been like that's a little bit expensive but it's awesome so everyone should buy it 35

00:58:34.520 --> 00:58:44.839
bucks this is another example of they're thinking 10 steps ahead and like they're

00:58:40.520 --> 00:58:47.640
doing something completely boners

00:58:44.839 --> 00:58:50.760
and yeah it's definitely a lost leader um for the first bunch of sales they

00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:54.440
were including three months of Netflix which brought the ACT which brought the

00:58:52.520 --> 00:58:59.240
actual cost of the device to $11 they I think took that off yeah it's

00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:04.920
gone no no they they did they they sold out of that particular promo but going

00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:08.440
into it I mean this is a classic Google situation where they completely e either

00:59:07.240 --> 00:59:14.559
they do it intentionally or they underestimate the demand for the products and it becomes a [ __ ]

00:59:12.200 --> 00:59:17.920
show it's it's one or the it's it's one or the other I'm not sure I mean I

00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:20.720
haven't figured it out yet I think I think that they suck at retail to be

00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:24.440
honest with you so just make everything free and

00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:28.160
just figure out how to deal with yeah yeah exactly well the funny thing was

00:59:26.359 --> 00:59:33.200
like a bunch of people a bunch of people rushed to order it on the Google Play

00:59:29.799 --> 00:59:35.480
Store right and they they had a 5-day

00:59:33.200 --> 00:59:39.880
lead time from those purchases and then 45 minutes later Amazon launched and it

00:59:37.680 --> 00:59:43.480
was available for next day delivery and so all these like enthusiasts who were

00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:49.000
sitting around waiting to click their Mouse button on the Google Play Store got screwed and guys like me ended up

00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:54.960
with it the next day aesome I I I I missed out on it

00:59:52.319 --> 00:59:59.440
entirely so I found someone on Twitter who who follows me who ordered two right

00:59:57.359 --> 01:00:02.599
away so I'm going to buy one of them off him and hopefully I'll get to play with

01:00:00.720 --> 01:00:06.400
it pretty soon yeah you won't you won't regret it I mean it's it's a it's a

01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:11.599
stupid easy device to take with you I can see carrying this thing um into

01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:15.079
boardrooms uh into hotel rooms hotel rooms y it's it's crazy it's it's it's

01:00:14.200 --> 01:00:21.520
really convenient so crowdfunding I wanted to

01:00:18.200 --> 01:00:23.920
talk about a couple of things so number

01:00:21.520 --> 01:00:29.599
one is ah yes have you heard about the

01:00:26.520 --> 01:00:32.920
crowdfunded Ubuntu Android

01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:34.880
phone it is it actually funded though

01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:38.920
not yet yeah they're working on it but they want an enormous amount they want

01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:44.000
an enormous amount of money though 35 million they want to break every record

01:00:41.319 --> 01:00:52.920
from every Crown crowdfunding project ever they want 32 million by August

01:00:48.240 --> 01:00:56.070
21st yeah um what are the odds

01:00:56.119 --> 01:01:02.480
just I I honestly I don't I don't know I'm I'm probably GNA catch heat for this

01:00:59.839 --> 01:01:08.760
especially from your audience but do it I mean the what makes great phones what

01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:12.799
makes great consumer devices is Mass Appeal is scale you know when they when

01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:18.039
when you have enough users that are out there in the public using them it means you're going to have a better ecosystem

01:01:15.240 --> 01:01:23.559
of developers working on those devices I just don't see the value proposition of

01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:25.480
having this this device you know in the

01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:30.440
far corner of the room that you and 10 other people will have um I don't see

01:01:28.359 --> 01:01:35.200
how that can be all that compelling this is not the only phone they're releasing

01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:37.039
though this is just the super premium

01:01:35.200 --> 01:01:40.280
ridiculous what I'm saying is what I'm saying is are they launching a

01:01:38.319 --> 01:01:44.680
legitimate competitor to what's already out there or is this is this something

01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:48.400
that's going to be for enthusiasts and it's a very good question because you

01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:52.480
look at something like Blackberry 10 it was reviewed reasonably well in fact you

01:01:50.520 --> 01:01:58.079
had said you felt that there was a place for it slick um in the market however

01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:03.039
when's the last time you saw a Z1 or a Q10 in someone's hand and it's not a

01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:08.039
matter of is it a good platform because I think we can all agree that it's good

01:02:05.520 --> 01:02:13.240
but the problem is will you tear my Android device away from me or someone

01:02:10.279 --> 01:02:18.319
else's iOS device away from them with this one thing that I have to input on

01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:22.400
this is BlackBerry headside loading apps this runs an entire Android operating

01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:27.520
system and it's switching is fast as far as I've heard even an Android phone

01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:29.279
though okay like a a poorly supported

01:02:27.520 --> 01:02:33.119
Android device there will be apps all over the play store that don't work

01:02:30.720 --> 01:02:37.440
right with it this is a thing that exists now never mind if you plan to

01:02:35.720 --> 01:02:42.839
make only what do they plan to make 40,000 of them I think that was

01:02:40.319 --> 01:02:47.559
it I don't know that sounds about right 40,000 units is the planned run and they

01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:53.520
will cost around $800 and something dollar each uh the first few that got in

01:02:50.200 --> 01:02:54.920
got them for $600 yeah it's $830 now uh

01:02:53.520 --> 01:03:00.079
one of the other things that seems a little bit crazy to me is what they're

01:02:57.520 --> 01:03:06.319
committing right now they're committing um I believe it was a sapphire screen uh

01:03:02.839 --> 01:03:08.520
dual 4G so it's like a world 4G phone

01:03:06.319 --> 01:03:13.559
they're committing 128 gigs of storage they're committing an um undisclosed

01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:20.880
processor 4 and 1 half inch screen all these things except the ship date is

01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:20.880
going to be I believe it was April

01:03:22.319 --> 01:03:28.400
2014 yeah it I mean I I tend to think

01:03:26.200 --> 01:03:32.960
like I I I I personally think this thing's going to be a disaster myself I

01:03:30.680 --> 01:03:39.160
if it does end up reaching it I I just don't think that a crowdsourced phone is

01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:43.559
what we all need right now I I there have been crappy enough crowdsourced

01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:49.160
products that have come out that aren't that aren't nearly as um that aren't

01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:53.240
nearly as enthusiastic as trying to develop a phone using crowd money I mean

01:03:51.799 --> 01:03:58.200
that's just an incredibly hard thing to do one thing is it it is iCal so they're

01:03:56.799 --> 01:04:03.400
a company that's been around for an incredibly large period of time their software done Hardware their software

01:04:02.279 --> 01:04:09.000
already works and they're getting other people to do the hardware look at even someone like Samsung they are now the

01:04:06.839 --> 01:04:14.000
world's most profitable consumer electronics company above Apple you look

01:04:11.640 --> 01:04:18.319
at their first iteration of anything it's terrible their first TVs terrible

01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:23.799
their first Optical drives terrible their first phones terrible their first

01:04:20.720 --> 01:04:26.880
freaking appliances were terrible all

01:04:23.799 --> 01:04:29.039
terrible this is going to be canonical

01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:35.359
first attempt at a super premium high-end phone and they're only they're

01:04:31.720 --> 01:04:37.440
only spending a maximum of $32 million

01:04:35.359 --> 01:04:44.000
on something that I can tell you right now Samsung is spending a lot more than

01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:48.799
that an order of magnitude or two more than that yeah well Samsung spends more

01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:53.480
money on marketing than the market cap for HTC and Motorola combined any any of

01:04:51.839 --> 01:04:57.839
that you you could add up all the Android competitors and Samsung spends

01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:02.839
more on marketing alone than their net value so I mean it's this is this is

01:05:01.160 --> 01:05:08.279
there's a terrible situation out there right now for Android phone makers who

01:05:05.520 --> 01:05:12.480
aren't Samsung in general let alone a new player who wants to come along and

01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:16.799
compete in the space HTC they're flat I mean they're they're barely making any

01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:21.119
money and they make beautiful Hardware what another I'm going to I'm

01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:25.319
just continue battle both of you go ahead um another thing is this again is

01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:29.960
not their only phone yes so they are pulling in this is funding to make sure

01:05:28.160 --> 01:05:33.279
that they can sell enough of them because if they can't sell enough of

01:05:31.520 --> 01:05:37.200
them they're not going to bother release it this isn't the only funding that's

01:05:35.359 --> 01:05:40.240
going into this phone they're pulling in funding from other parts of their

01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:44.559
company they're a massive company and they always do this one thing that this

01:05:42.279 --> 01:05:48.760
phone is doing is closing in ecosystems so you can plug it in and it will Dock

01:05:46.240 --> 01:05:52.200
and turn it into a whole Ubunto OS as you plug it into your computer so they

01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:56.440
want to bring together an ecosystem they want to do this with all their phones and they're going to pull in funding

01:05:54.440 --> 01:06:00.960
from all over the place to help this because if you watch the video they want

01:05:58.319 --> 01:06:04.240
this to be their super car basically so that they can trickle down and then

01:06:02.799 --> 01:06:09.799
eventually release a phone like this which is no longer a trickle down and then have another one of these so is the

01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:15.400
market ready for this yet because CES 2 three years ago I was already watching

01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:18.240
superphones being plugged into laptop

01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:22.200
shells that turn them into Android os's on a not a laptop shell though plug it

01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:28.039
directly into a monitor plug it into whatever you want are we ready yet for a

01:06:25.640 --> 01:06:31.680
phone that is more than a phone and will people care I don't know if people will

01:06:30.359 --> 01:06:35.200
care but it doesn't matter what I'm trying to say is that they're getting funding from other parts of their

01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:39.279
company oh that much is true because they're trying to close up an ecos but my point with Samsung was that it

01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:43.920
doesn't matter how much funding they're pulling from whatever part of their company because they're not as big as

01:06:41.839 --> 01:06:48.319
Samsung and Samsung's first attempt at anything usually sucks yeah so I'm

01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:53.720
saying it might suck unless they're better than Samsung at

01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:57.200
Hardware I don't know man I'm pretty sure I I don't remember where I read

01:06:55.960 --> 01:07:00.920
this but I'm pretty sure they're pulling in other influences for the hardware

01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:04.440
there's no doubt I mean that this is a super ambitious thing I and I don't you

01:07:02.839 --> 01:07:08.760
know I don't mind it doesn't bother me like I think anybody out there trying to

01:07:06.640 --> 01:07:14.200
to innovate and create something you know is is a is a positive thing it's

01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:18.079
going to push the entire the entire uh Market forward but at the same time if I

01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:21.079
was a betting man like if you were asking me to invest in it I mean that's

01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:25.760
a different that's a completely different story I didn't yep there's no

01:07:23.839 --> 01:07:29.359
way I'm investing in a piece of hard that comes out 9 months from now I

01:07:27.319 --> 01:07:33.480
didn't I'm I'm I'm excited for it I want to see where it's going I did not buy it

01:07:31.319 --> 01:07:37.240
and I looked at it fast enough that I could have bought it at the cheapest

01:07:34.720 --> 01:07:41.119
bracket and I didn't so to throw that into the pie I'm excited for the next

01:07:39.680 --> 01:07:45.279
time they do this in the video they said that they if this works they want to do

01:07:42.680 --> 01:07:49.319
it annually almost okay so if they do this next year and it's super successful

01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:53.359
this year then maybe I will because that would be awesome but I want to see it

01:07:51.839 --> 01:08:00.760
happen first so moving on to our next uh

01:07:57.039 --> 01:08:04.000
crowdsourcing topic uh what happens when

01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:06.960
these things fail so the Doom that came

01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:11.240
to Atlantic City by the forking path Co this is not an easy update to write the

01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:16.080
short version the project is over the game is cancelled and there's a bunch of

01:08:13.839 --> 01:08:19.960
angry comments from backers so these are backers only the problem is we weren't

01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:26.159
kept in the loop we've been giving false information the problem is that you know

01:08:23.400 --> 01:08:32.319
why did we pay for him to move why did we pay for these things why was there

01:08:28.440 --> 01:08:34.679
this ambitious goal with you know like a

01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:39.719
$35,000 or what why was there this ambitious project that had a $35,000

01:08:37.400 --> 01:08:45.319
goal that clearly isn't enough money to do anything and you know maybe this

01:08:43.799 --> 01:08:49.000
isn't even the worst case scenario I mean Lou you were talking about

01:08:46.799 --> 01:08:53.319
Kickstarter or Indiegogo or crowdfunded projects that maybe they actually make

01:08:51.040 --> 01:08:57.440
it to Market but they totally suck how much Faith are you putting into this

01:08:54.799 --> 01:09:04.080
stuff um I mean for me I don't put very much

01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:07.719
uh you know there's there's I think that a lot of the products that have come out

01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:11.040
of it have proven to be less than what people expected and in the case of

01:09:09.440 --> 01:09:15.560
probably the largest product to date which was the the uh the watch the

01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:19.719
pebble watch they they even did something strange which was move units

01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:24.319
to Best Buy prior to fulfilling the people who paid in advance uh there

01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:29.120
there are no rules you know when you send your money not guaranteed anything

01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:32.920
and you're essentially enabling a group of people who you don't know to go out

01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:37.560
and decide how they want to spend that and when they want to deliver something

01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:42.679
back to you for that for that investment I mean I think that I think crowdfunding

01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:46.040
could really go to the next level when you actually can get a you can actually

01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:50.120
invest in a company you can actually get a piece of the action like that that to

01:09:48.120 --> 01:09:53.799
me gets a lot more interesting you know when when you can say I really believe

01:09:51.799 --> 01:09:57.480
in this to the point where I want to invest in it anywhere else in the real

01:09:55.880 --> 01:10:02.320
world when a person makes an investment in a company they expect something back

01:10:00.080 --> 01:10:06.880
in terms of equity you don't just expect to be pre-ordering something it it's

01:10:04.719 --> 01:10:10.880
amazing how just a little bit of hype can drive people to pay for something

01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:16.760
that doesn't exist and may never exist and that's exactly it is right now I've

01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:18.960
seen good ideas crowdfunded that didn't

01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:23.840
make it because they did not have a slick video or they didn't have a great

01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:28.239
presentation or the models showcasing the Prototype were ugly or whatever

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:33.480
other infinite number of reasons that a good idea can fail and I've seen stupid

01:10:30.719 --> 01:10:39.040
ideas that are meeting their targets even though like you know I sort of I

01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:45.719
sort of hate to call these guys out but it's a it's a phone case that has um

01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:49.120
earbuds that like retract into it and

01:10:45.719 --> 01:10:50.480
I'm just like it it it beat its Target

01:10:49.120 --> 01:10:55.040
and I'm looking at this going like are you freaking serious like it's going to

01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:58.840
be the crappiest earbuds in the world we already know this because they don't

01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:03.560
know a bloody thing about your buds it's going to be a cell phone case which

01:11:01.360 --> 01:11:07.600
shouldn't be worth more than about $4 and they I think they wanted 30 bucks

01:11:06.120 --> 01:11:13.640
or 40 bucks for it or something stupid like that yeah I I think I think a lot I

01:11:11.719 --> 01:11:18.040
think a lot of people fall in love with with the concept and and when you when

01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:22.600
your product becomes a message and not an actual physical product when you boil

01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:26.880
a product down just to its just to its advertising components you realize that

01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:30.679
that's actually where the magic is like when when when a company tries to

01:11:28.480 --> 01:11:34.640
convince you to buy buy something gener generally speaking you know leading up

01:11:33.280 --> 01:11:38.199
to that actual purchase is when you're the most excited once you've actually

01:11:36.280 --> 01:11:43.560
got it that excitement starts to you know uh you know sort of yeah ex platus

01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:47.520
or hopefully if you like the product at plateaus it might even go down if it's

01:11:45.719 --> 01:11:50.920
not what you expected but that's what they're doing they're playing off that

01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:54.400
initial moment when you think wow that would be cool and they're selling you

01:11:52.360 --> 01:12:00.199
something within that moment so it's sort of it's almost in a way like some

01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:02.320
new kind of advertising platform where

01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:05.920
where they're capitalizing at the point of advertisement instead of waiting for

01:12:04.320 --> 01:12:09.679
the production to take place it's The Simpsons monor rail episode all over

01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:13.360
again now YouTube slammed it I'm gonna again come from the other side at the

01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:17.159
same time the whole thing about Kickstarter if you read anything up

01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:21.880
about it and Indiegogo the customer is supposed to read the article a lot of

01:12:20.440 --> 01:12:25.639
times they don't a lot of things have been released where they did not do the

01:12:23.440 --> 01:12:29.440
research that's the customer's fault and even though it failed that sucks you're

01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:34.199
taking a gamble with your money you're playing a game with your money you're

01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:37.560
going okay this looks interesting I want it and I want to keep be informed on it

01:12:36.040 --> 01:12:43.320
and I want updates on it I want to know everything that's going on about it so you put money down for a segment of

01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:46.000
something so you might get something back you might get information only you

01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:51.560
might get your name in the game you might get your face in the game you might get whatever say it's a game it

01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:55.840
could be something else you need to look into it and make sure read up on the

01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:59.560
people read up on the product make sure it's going to work a lot of the times

01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:03.400
the only things I I've backed quite a few things on Kickstarter a lot of the

01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:08.320
things I will only back them if they're mostly produced already I don't want to

01:13:05.719 --> 01:13:12.199
back something if the guy's like yeah I have a cad model of it and like it might

01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:17.960
work that's pretty cool I'm going to back something when he's like yeah this

01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:19.360
is my prototype it works look boom boom

01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:24.199
it's awesome I just need to produce a bunch of them I need money to get into manufacturing that makes a lot more

01:13:22.320 --> 01:13:27.760
sense for me when he goes I've talked to these people they've said that they can

01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:30.719
manufacture this many units at this price I need this much money to make it

01:13:29.320 --> 01:13:36.120
happen that's something I'm going to back right I've only backed one thing so

01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:42.000
far Star Citizen that was it and it was only because Chris Roberts has a

01:13:38.719 --> 01:13:44.199
longtime tradition of success and he had

01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:49.800
a great idea and concept and he had enough footage enough ingame gameplay

01:13:47.400 --> 01:13:54.400
that he was releasing and showing that I was confident that it was worth dropping

01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:58.679
my money on big name research done by the purchaser all that kind of stuff so

01:13:56.320 --> 01:14:02.960
Kickstarter is not bad just don't use it poorly no no no I I I want to be clear

01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:07.040
too it might come off like I'm bashing it I absolutely love the idea of it I

01:14:05.400 --> 01:14:11.080
think the idea of crowdfunding is fantastic but I think that there's the

01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:15.080
potential here that if enough people get screwed it can be that sort of one

01:14:13.320 --> 01:14:19.760
rotten apple situation where it can spoil the public perception about the

01:14:17.120 --> 01:14:22.840
entire platform so it's important that they make it very clear how you're

01:14:21.400 --> 01:14:27.840
supposed to engage with it as an end user because if there's enough press

01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:29.600
about about bad things occurring then

01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:32.679
some things like this might not H have the same Traction in the future and I

01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:36.880
don't want to see that happen because I like the idea of a producer being able

01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:41.360
to go and reach directly to the audience without nearly as many middlemen as were

01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:45.800
traditionally required tell okay tell me something as a

01:14:43.360 --> 01:14:51.400
business owner so I've really liked your your thought about somewhere in between

01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:56.800
private investment and going IPO full-blown what about a crowd investment

01:14:55.320 --> 01:15:02.159
that's not an investment in the product because that's another one of the things I agree with you 100% that's absolutely

01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:08.760
ridiculous I'm not giving my money upfront so that I can have a spot in

01:15:05.360 --> 01:15:12.000
line that's that's absurd I mean it's

01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:13.800
illegal in the USA to charge actually

01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:18.080
this is kind of funny it's illegal in the USA to charge someone's credit card

01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:22.400
for a back order before you ship it that's

01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:28.000
right yet but can can they not do a pre-authorization on it yes they can do

01:15:25.400 --> 01:15:33.440
preauthorization but if I'm giving you my money I want something besides a spot

01:15:31.080 --> 01:15:39.760
in line and is that potentially the future of this where if unbox therapy

01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:42.400
you know LLC or Linus Media Group Inc

01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:46.679
decides to get investment we could crowdfund investment in terms of an

01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:51.199
actual ownership in the company um that that is currently

01:15:49.120 --> 01:15:57.120
illegal in the United States I don't I don't know about Canada uh but there is

01:15:54.120 --> 01:15:59.040
talk that eventually things might might

01:15:57.120 --> 01:16:03.320
end up going in that direction but the TR the only the trouble I have there is

01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:06.800
that it's kind of like an amplification of the problems we already talked about

01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:10.280
where if the end user doesn't do their research and understand what they're

01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:15.239
getting involved in it could bring a lot of heat onto the entire platform and and

01:16:13.480 --> 01:16:18.960
it could it could end up being fairly destructive so it would need you would

01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:24.040
need to have some kind of authentication system to determine if people were a

01:16:21.120 --> 01:16:29.159
good fit I think that the the producer would have to look at each person's uh

01:16:27.120 --> 01:16:32.480
submission and determine whether or not they wanted to work with that person and

01:16:30.719 --> 01:16:36.800
accept even if even if it's a tiny little stake you would have to look at

01:16:34.320 --> 01:16:40.520
it and do uh some some quick analysis to determine whether or not you wanted to

01:16:38.280 --> 01:16:44.639
accept that uh bid and that's actually a very good

01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:49.520
point because that's one of the reasons that Linus Media Group Inc doesn't have

01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:53.639
any private investors uh we had offers we had people who wanted to throw some

01:16:51.400 --> 01:16:59.320
funding at us at the beginning um in order for to have a stake of the company

01:16:56.080 --> 01:17:01.520
and for me it wasn't even a matter of do

01:16:59.320 --> 01:17:05.480
I mind giving up a stake because it's other than it being a phenomenal amount

01:17:03.320 --> 01:17:11.400
of paperwork it's not really the end of the world I still get to pay myself a

01:17:07.360 --> 01:17:14.280
salary so you know I'll be fine um and

01:17:11.400 --> 01:17:20.560
it wasn't necessarily a matter of basically the problem was do I want

01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:26.280
to work with this person and if you did a crowdfunded type of initiative like

01:17:23.360 --> 01:17:32.440
this you're working so many people you have to answer to so many people

01:17:29.360 --> 01:17:35.080
y it's kind of yeah I did listen I I did

01:17:32.440 --> 01:17:41.360
one before and it was not the most fun experience ever yeah your ultimate uh

01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:43.719
ultimate gaming build yeah it's it's

01:17:41.360 --> 01:17:48.199
it's it's a it's a really strange way to interact with people you've never

01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:52.679
met you know that's that's the bottom line it's

01:17:49.400 --> 01:17:54.280
like you know ultimately people I mean

01:17:52.679 --> 01:17:59.480
I'm sure you've the whole keyboard Warrior thing thing you know how this works when people have anonymity online

01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:03.440
and they're not a face and they're not a person that has to answer you know with

01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:09.520
a face attached to it all of a sudden what they're saying and how they're saying it changes

01:18:07.159 --> 01:18:14.000
drastically absolutely it's a really good point okay I think I had one more

01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:19.560
topic that I really wanted to discuss with Lou here before we uh before we

01:18:17.080 --> 01:18:23.360
said thank you very much for for joining us I'm just trying to see if I can find

01:18:21.280 --> 01:18:27.040
it here plastic iPhone oh yeah the plastic iPhone so I'm I'm going to go

01:18:25.120 --> 01:18:30.199
ahead I'm going to fire this up and I'm going to just let the viewers check out

01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:33.159
the video a little bit here if they haven't already

01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:42.000
sure so guys this is all considered speculation at this point in oh there's

01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:47.679
a pizza ad I used to I used to be able to spin pizzas spin dough I worked at

01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:52.560
pizza shop good job hey guys Mike Detroit with the sneak peek of the new

01:18:50.040 --> 01:18:57.080
plastic iPhone so this is just the back shell of the phone as you can see

01:18:54.880 --> 01:19:00.320
integrates all the chassis components as well so we don't have our battery or the

01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:05.719
display or anything like that we just have the chassis components like the EM Shield the frame for the okay that's

01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:10.679
that's basically the point the video goes on for about six minutes but uh I I

01:19:09.280 --> 01:19:16.040
don't know I don't know how much more there is to say about it than that it's a little bit thicker than an iPhone 5

01:19:14.480 --> 01:19:22.560
it's obviously going to be cheaper than an iPhone 5 how how many times has Steve

01:19:20.080 --> 01:19:27.639
Jobs spun in his grave at this point in the very short time that he's been pass

01:19:24.719 --> 01:19:32.000
pass away my my comment directly on the document was just how pissed would jobs

01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:37.760
be because

01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:41.520
yeah I I mean well the the 3G was had a

01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:43.360
plastic back yes but they moved beyond

01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:48.840
that and I don't think jobs ever believed in moving backwards the

01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:50.800
original iMac was a plastic CRT after

01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:56.320
that did he ever go back to a plastic iMac no yeah I mean plastic is I mean

01:19:54.800 --> 01:20:01.760
that's one of my my most major criticisms of the uh of the S4 the S4

01:19:59.480 --> 01:20:07.960
the the the texture of the plastic on the S4 is so slimy it's um it just does

01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:11.199
it just doesn't have that same sort of feel it doesn't feel like a high quality

01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:17.000
material I mean these These are going to be cheap these are going to be the first Apple's first foray into the I suppose

01:20:15.120 --> 01:20:20.400
the budget market and have and and their F definitely their first foray into

01:20:18.320 --> 01:20:25.440
having multiple devices available in the phone segment so um I think there's

01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:28.960
pretty much one reason they did not not there's two reasons I guess there's the

01:20:27.040 --> 01:20:33.280
expense so they could sell them cheaper and second they're going to do colors

01:20:31.320 --> 01:20:37.960
and they've had incredible success in the past with the iPod lineup going you

01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:40.960
know having different colors for a different audience and I don't know I

01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:44.520
mean I personally don't care that much about colors but I guess there's

01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:50.159
probably a youthful audience out there that might even iPods were anodized

01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:53.440
metal later on in the product cycle or later on in the in the product

01:20:51.440 --> 01:20:59.880
development and I mean the reason I think they're doing this is pure uh dick

01:20:56.800 --> 01:21:02.199
measuring for lack of a better word you

01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:06.719
look at Samsung smartphone shipments versus Apple's iPhone shipments for Q2

01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:11.560
Samsung sold about double what Apple does is that because they're selling a

01:21:08.679 --> 01:21:15.719
bajillion in one S4s okay partially yes yeah they didn't Apple hasn't launched a

01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:22.480
new phone yes so Apple hasn't launched a new phone and in addition to that Apple

01:21:18.120 --> 01:21:25.159
doesn't have a lowcost volume mover in

01:21:22.480 --> 01:21:30.080
order to maintain their dominance with the with theore if they want to

01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:33.760
keep having as many downloads as gole play which I don't think has Google

01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:38.840
passed them already if not it's very close yeah I'm not sure total number of

01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:43.199
downloads that I don't know I think I think that the App Store still has more

01:21:40.719 --> 01:21:46.679
yeah I think I think for total of all time I'm pretty sure they're but they

01:21:44.480 --> 01:21:50.120
have a they have a Long Head Start and I think they're not that far ahead anymore

01:21:48.159 --> 01:21:55.199
last time I looked at it so there's two things here so number one is I think

01:21:52.320 --> 01:21:59.360
apple is afraid in that measuring contest that is how many units of phones

01:21:57.080 --> 01:22:06.159
are you selling and number two is I think they want to maintain iOS as the

01:22:02.719 --> 01:22:09.400
premier development mobile platform for

01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:11.920
developers to really be attracted to um

01:22:09.400 --> 01:22:16.920
and I wonder if either of those are the right approach because you look at what

01:22:14.040 --> 01:22:21.920
brought about the success of os 10 and it wasn't Apple being afraid of having

01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:26.360
6% market share they were content to have 6% market share but they did what

01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:29.199
they believed was right whether it was right or not is a whole other

01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:32.639
conversation but they did what they believed and it looks like that's

01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:36.280
turning around now with the iPhone where instead of doing what they believe is

01:22:34.320 --> 01:22:41.120
right and what they believe is correct they're doing what investors are

01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:42.840
demanding or what you know yaho that

01:22:41.120 --> 01:22:45.840
email them are telling them that they think they should do I don't think cook

01:22:44.480 --> 01:22:50.199
has the balls they're going for those happy metrics instead of what is really

01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:56.320
deep down what they should be going for because of exactly what you just said which I don't necessarily feel like

01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:58.159
repeating um but I I think you're right

01:22:56.320 --> 01:23:02.719
yeah yeah they've they've been making Mass Market decisions for a while now I

01:23:00.280 --> 01:23:06.920
mean you you can look at some of their decisions with the pro lineup I mean

01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:12.040
they didn't update the Mac Pro for well ye years now maybe five years that was

01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:13.560
terrible you know and and they um you

01:23:12.040 --> 01:23:18.280
know they've going been going with more embedded Solutions where systems aren't

01:23:15.639 --> 01:23:21.639
as upgradeable as they once were um you know one of the most major consumer

01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:24.960
decisions they made was to put their stores in malls where if anybody does

01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:29.400
any research on malls you know that like

01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:34.560
eight out of 10 people at any given time in a mall are females um I I remember I

01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:38.639
remember I'm not trying to be sexist or anything but generally speaking

01:23:36.440 --> 01:23:43.320
enthusiasts are males um if you look at your analytics of your channel you know

01:23:40.280 --> 01:23:44.960
that but um but anyway yeah it's it's

01:23:43.320 --> 01:23:49.199
they've made been making decisions the whole way that have been Mass Market

01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:53.280
decisions where they want to reach consumers who they don't care if they

01:23:51.480 --> 01:23:57.080
were previously their consumers they're always targeting

01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:00.880
uh new users even though their loyalty numbers have traditionally been been

01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:05.719
incredible but one of the things just regarding development that Still Remains

01:24:03.280 --> 01:24:10.639
to be um that there that where their dominance is is in getting people to pay

01:24:08.280 --> 01:24:14.800
for apps yeah because because on the Android side as many downloads as are

01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:19.600
going on and as as many developers are focusing in that area you'll see an app

01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:24.600
that costs $4 on iOS and the developer has to give it away for free with ads on

01:24:21.719 --> 01:24:29.639
on the Android side because the user base has a different mentality regarding

01:24:27.280 --> 01:24:35.760
uh you know the the purchasing of an app um the App Store claims to have uh the

01:24:33.480 --> 01:24:42.159
largest database of credit cards of any e-commerce site uh next to next to

01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:45.600
Amazon so tell me this will a cheap

01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:47.719
phone turn that around will it will we

01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:52.159
be attracting more cheap skates to the iOS platform who aren't willing to pay

01:24:49.679 --> 01:24:57.280
for an app because um it was actually I I was T I was on a message board for for

01:24:54.639 --> 01:25:01.480
an app that I absolutely love air video it's awesome it's iOS only because the

01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:05.239
developer basically came out and said in this thread uh we don't give any cares

01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:11.080
about Android because we're not convinced any of those users will give us any money whereas we have a very

01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:16.199
healthy business supporting iOS developing this iOS app that we believe

01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:21.800
is the best in the market and it really is it's so much better than anything

01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:23.480
else it's smooth it's perfect um and we

01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:29.719
are going to stick with that because this is the horse that got us here do

01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:32.800
you think that creating a cheapo iPhone

01:25:29.719 --> 01:25:35.600
or like a value iPhone will erode that

01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:41.280
premium mentality that an that an iOS user has and that willingness to

01:25:38.040 --> 01:25:43.239
pay um I mean there's there's obviously

01:25:41.280 --> 01:25:48.119
the potential for it but it's hard to imagine that an end user would walk home

01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:52.159
with a new iOS device I mean even if that's an iPod Touch for that matter and

01:25:50.440 --> 01:25:56.840
not launch into the app store and see what's hot on the charts I mean that's

01:25:54.400 --> 01:26:01.360
just the next thing that you do I see kids who have iOS devices and their

01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:05.280
parents credit cards are hooked up to them because it's it's a payto playay

01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:11.119
type ecosystem you know we've had a lot of problems like that recently there was

01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:12.840
there was that Mom who had like a $6,000

01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:17.480
charge on a credit yeah because of the in inapp purchases yeah it was a kids

01:26:15.360 --> 01:26:21.440
game and they kind of shrouded that they were really purchases to make them like

01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:25.600
an adult would be like okay this is a purchase but it was slightly shrouded

01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:30.080
and it wasn't big complicated process to buy something so the kids just whatever

01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:33.760
yeah yeah and there's like a class action I think on that particular app

01:26:32.040 --> 01:26:37.679
against that particular app but yeah it's there you you boot into the iOS

01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:40.800
ecosystem and you realize pretty quickly that if you're going to participate in

01:26:39.280 --> 01:26:44.280
any meaningful way you need to connect the credit card and that just doesn't

01:26:42.679 --> 01:26:49.360
happen when you boot into the Google Play

01:26:46.040 --> 01:26:52.080
Store yep you know so whether the device

01:26:49.360 --> 01:26:55.800
is cheaper or not if you want to utilize it you you kind of that's just the

01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:59.960
approach they've taken all right well that's uh that's a

01:26:58.280 --> 01:27:03.159
very interesting take on it and I don't I don't disagree actually I guess we'll

01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:09.159
have to see what happens because the reality of it is iPhone 4 has been

01:27:06.040 --> 01:27:10.880
available as a value option for Z with

01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:14.840
contract at least here in Canada for a while yeah and and they've continued to

01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:20.719
sell a ton of them still a great phone I'm you know I

01:27:18.280 --> 01:27:24.719
love the HTC1 but I if I had to go back to using my iPhone 4 today I Wouldn't

01:27:23.040 --> 01:27:29.080
Die I'd be fine no and yeah and there are there are

01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:32.719
certain things that you I mean on both sides on both platforms that each one

01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:36.080
does better than the other it's just it's not a very clear argument that

01:27:34.480 --> 01:27:40.040
particular one it's what I hate getting into that argument probably more than

01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:43.520
any other and I probably run into it more than any other the whole iPhone

01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:48.320
versus Android all right well thank you so much

01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:55.000
for joining us um do you want to do a quick plug for your channel before you

01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:57.760
go oh sure yeah um so I'm available uh

01:27:55.000 --> 01:28:03.159
unbox therapy on Twitter or youtube.com/ unbox therapy and yeah I make videos

01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:07.600
about consumer products and talk about consumer products and so if you want to

01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:12.000
check out more then that's the place to do it or anyone who thinks we're

01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:16.679
competitors guys that is uh totally ridiculous we even cover the same

01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:21.880
products sometimes but it's a very different style from what we do here

01:28:19.679 --> 01:28:26.040
yeah for sure no we're we're all cool I mean um it's really I think it's really

01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:30.040
valuable to connect with people of like mind in this in this space just because

01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:34.760
it's so new and moving so quickly that um having success depends on it all

01:28:33.280 --> 01:28:40.280
right thanks so much Lou I really appreciate you joining us and thank you

01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:40.280
very very much for

01:28:41.639 --> 01:28:49.639
joining all right I think he's gone so guys remember our live guests every week

01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:54.320
are brought to you by Razer comms go ahead and click the link that I'm

01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:55.880
leaning down here next to uh oh oh I

01:28:54.320 --> 01:28:59.320
went and moved xplit got no idea where the link is right there that link if you

01:28:57.639 --> 01:29:03.480
want to wh right there if you want to try Razer comms for yourself remember

01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:08.679
guys if you use this particular bit.ly link it helps us out a great

01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:11.719
deal just before we jump into the Twitter Blitz um because I'm assuming

01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:18.800
that yeah we're going to do a Twitter blitz so guys hit us on Twitter right

01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:22.960
now I wanted to jump onto our seemingly

01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:24.360
weekly EA news oh I know right poor EA

01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:32.760
here let me bring let me bring this this up cuz it's just like it's terrible as

01:29:29.040 --> 01:29:36.560
usual it's find it yeah is this is this

01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:39.760
the one oh no yeah there we go boom Oh

01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:41.679
EA I don't even like the the thing is

01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:46.880
everything that we talk about is newsworthy I know it just happens to

01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:54.320
always be them so the original Madden programmer wins 11 million in a lawsuit

01:29:50.080 --> 01:29:57.600
against EA and the worst part is H EA

01:29:54.320 --> 01:29:57.600
this is just the tip of the

01:29:58.280 --> 01:30:06.960
iceberg brutal oh

01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:09.480
yay so basically he developed Madden for

01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:13.679
MS DOS Commodore Apple 2 like a long time ago and has an

01:30:12.360 --> 01:30:18.080
agreement with them where they have to pay him royalties for every release on

01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:21.400
derivative Works which basically amounts to anything with Madden in the title

01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:28.719
yeah and they've been releasing Madden games for well since then yeah so and as

01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:33.520
far as I know they haven't ever paid out I don't think they have ever paid out I

01:30:31.480 --> 01:30:39.560
I don't know why he waited so long but as of now they owe him a lot of money so

01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:42.080
basically the Court's ruling um so hold

01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:48.440
on so the $11 million has been awarded for games it looks like prior to

01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:53.040
1996 the Court's ruling also gives antick the ability to pursue the same

01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:58.800
claims against EA for games released after 199

01:30:54.679 --> 01:30:58.800
where revenues exceed $3

01:30:59.400 --> 01:31:07.320
billion so maybe that is the answer maybe the trick is find your un employer

01:31:05.280 --> 01:31:11.760
who's stupid enough to sign a royalty deal build something for them with a

01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:15.119
clause about derivative works I mean honestly the fact that EA signed

01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:21.320
anything to do with royalties for derivative works is insane they probably

01:31:17.159 --> 01:31:23.480
forgot this was so long ago like so

01:31:21.320 --> 01:31:29.719
incredibly long ago they probably just forgot the fact that anyone at EA was

01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:33.719
ever stupid enough to sign anything like

01:31:29.719 --> 01:31:36.239
royalties for derivative works is just

01:31:33.719 --> 01:31:39.760
that's not that surprising oh come on now they made Sim City online

01:31:41.360 --> 01:31:46.320
only okay but I mean at least there's a

01:31:44.440 --> 01:31:50.960
rationale there I mean maybe the rationale for him was that they didn't

01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:52.840
want to pay him very much money um so

01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:57.280
they just kind of signed whatever they did I mean some of the best movie deals

01:31:55.679 --> 01:32:01.639
have been on ones where the film wasn't expected to do very well so the you know

01:31:59.800 --> 01:32:09.119
principal actor says okay well just give me 1% of the revenue and it's like yay

01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:12.440
payche yeah yeah so I think he doesn't

01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:15.239
have to work anymore at any rate yeah no

01:32:12.440 --> 01:32:18.920
although if he developed it for Doss Commodore and Apple

01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:23.600
2 he might be around that not working any more range already yeah but now he

01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:28.400
gets to not work and sit on a boat sort of

01:32:24.480 --> 01:32:29.880
like high class baller yeah with like a

01:32:28.400 --> 01:32:34.080
pool full of ladies that are just there because you

01:32:32.320 --> 01:32:36.400
know they could hang out there cuz it's a nice

01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:44.119
boat all right so let's go oh my gosh 84

01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:46.400
new interactions on Twitter and uh let's

01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:51.600
go ahead and hit that would you rather buy a 3770k or a

01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:54.560
3820 uh I'd probably go 3770k how about

01:32:51.600 --> 01:33:01.440
you why 3820 I don't know probably 37 do you

01:32:57.360 --> 01:33:03.239
need 64 gigs of RAM no okay uh what are

01:33:01.440 --> 01:33:07.560
yours and Slick opinions on The Cooler Master quickfire TK any alternatives at

01:33:05.719 --> 01:33:12.520
the same price point that you like so the TK is I believe the uh the sort of

01:33:10.080 --> 01:33:17.199
10 keyless one if I recall correctly TK stands for 10 keyless so there is the oh

01:33:15.480 --> 01:33:20.560
wait hold on which one's the one that has the arrow keys integrated into the

01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:25.920
number pad I don't remember exactly what it's called but I'm pretty sure that one's just the 10 key list oh okay in

01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:30.679
that case it's fine it's a Cooler Master mechanical keyboard it's a h i don't

01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:35.400
really name of it uh your opinion on the razor

01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:39.840
Hammerheads uh I haven't tried them yet mine actually arrived in the mail like

01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:43.280
two three days ago so it's much to my embarrassment that I haven't had a

01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:47.880
chance to try them yet but I'm extremely stoked to check them out and uh I've

01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:52.480
heard that they're quite Bassy so I can already say that I they're probably not

01:33:49.480 --> 01:33:55.040
my favorite thing in the world but my

01:33:52.480 --> 01:34:00.600
understanding is for for $49.99 they're actually not bad the uh the overview on

01:33:57.480 --> 01:34:03.400
a NCH was pretty positive cool do you do

01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:08.040
you recommend Cher MX red switches not really some people do like them uh David

01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:13.000
fitzpatricks have you ever considered delting a processor I was actually the

01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:18.560
first one to ever delit an x6800 extreme Edition so there you go yes I have I

01:34:16.400 --> 01:34:22.679
don't really recommend it though and no I haven't because I don't yeah whatever

01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:26.880
I haven't used the audio engine A5 Plus speakers unfortunately

01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:29.960
that's that's one of the problems especially with audio equipment is like

01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:33.679
recommending it before you've tried it is kind of sketchy yeah it's better to

01:34:32.119 --> 01:34:39.119
just not I've heard great things about it it's one of those things I've heard

01:34:35.239 --> 01:34:40.840
of but Apple equals new EA no nothing

01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:49.159
Apple does is as stupid as anything that EA does I don't like apple I would not say

01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:51.199
that yeah exactly you know what speaking

01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:55.239
of Apple our our story you know what we're going to come back to Twitter

01:34:52.360 --> 01:35:00.400
Blitz after cuz I wanted to get into Samsung being the

01:34:57.719 --> 01:35:07.159
largest consumer or most profitable consumer electronics company now so

01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:09.320
where did that go it's somewhere there

01:35:07.159 --> 01:35:14.159
was three of it I think at one point in time did we all oh here it is did we all

01:35:12.320 --> 01:35:17.679
put it in the dock yeah so I had to try and clean it up that dock was incredibly

01:35:16.280 --> 01:35:21.520
messy actually all right so there you go Yahoo news in the second calendar

01:35:19.320 --> 01:35:25.360
quarter of this year Samsung stole Apple's long-standing title with

01:35:23.040 --> 01:35:33.360
quarterly profit of 8.3 billion compared to Apple's 6.9

01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:35.239
billion so that that is news and that's

01:35:33.360 --> 01:35:40.679
fascinating so 71 million units of smartphones compared to Apple's 31

01:35:37.320 --> 01:35:42.520
million but what I want to launch into

01:35:40.679 --> 01:35:50.719
with this is are we really going to start calling Apple a new EA when

01:35:45.480 --> 01:35:50.719
they're making 6.9 billion in a

01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:59.400
quarter I mean this is is where that mentality that if a business isn't

01:35:56.719 --> 01:36:03.719
growing exponentially you know like that uh that curve or that or that hockey

01:36:01.440 --> 01:36:10.119
stick if a business isn't doing that then it's a failure apple is not a

01:36:06.679 --> 01:36:12.239
failure yet they are a long way away

01:36:10.119 --> 01:36:19.239
from being a failure they made $6.9 billion dollar selling half as many

01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:24.199
units of smartphones as Samsung their business is extremely profitable and

01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:29.520
extremely lucrative and they have cash cash cash to develop whatever New

01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:33.840
Concept as long as someone shows up over there with the vision to make it happen

01:36:31.400 --> 01:36:39.880
that they want to and like it's going to take so long to for them to fall if they

01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:44.600
do fall like it will take an incredibly long amount of time because their

01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:47.239
coffers are huge they have so much money

01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:51.639
it's insane and they still will have a cult likee following of people somewhere

01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:55.760
that will continue to buy their products so they will continue to exist even if

01:36:54.080 --> 01:37:01.159
they're much smaller and much more Niche remember they've done this before y

01:36:58.440 --> 01:37:05.280
they've become Niche and by becoming Niche they have blown up yes because

01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:09.360
that happens sometimes as you'll see they become Niche and then all the professional people start using them and

01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:14.320
then they blow up they could do that again and if at some point they figure out how to appease their professional

01:37:12.320 --> 01:37:18.480
users again that would be a very so Tim Cook if you're watching right now

01:37:16.360 --> 01:37:21.960
appease your professional users because they advocate for you they're dropping

01:37:20.280 --> 01:37:27.760
off uh like I mentioned last week Freddy Wong released a big thing about how he's moving to PC well final final Cut's a

01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:33.280
disaster now people are moving over to Adobe and Premier ain't perfect but

01:37:30.679 --> 01:37:39.080
final Cut's a total disaster and Adobe has figured out how to get people to pay

01:37:35.639 --> 01:37:41.119
for Creative Cloud holy crap we're

01:37:39.080 --> 01:37:46.280
paying for Creative Cloud they've kind of gone okay let's tie together enough

01:37:43.159 --> 01:37:49.560
value ad Services we are going to make

01:37:46.280 --> 01:37:52.239
this a package in much the same way that

01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:56.280
office revolutionized word processing and you know power point and Excel see

01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.800
you hardly I can hardly even remember what those programs are called if I

01:37:57.599 --> 01:38:02.800
don't call them word excel and PowerPoint anymore but that is what it

01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:06.480
looks like adobe's doing with this Suite of products that's going to be getting

01:38:04.360 --> 01:38:12.679
more and more tightly integrated with every generational Improvement so come

01:38:10.280 --> 01:38:17.920
on Apple sort of rooting for you here sort of I'm not but they can still do it

01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:22.599
um are am I using Chrome remote desktop on your laptop no I'm not I'm using an

01:38:20.119 --> 01:38:27.960
HDMI capture device but that would be a phenomenally cool way of doing

01:38:25.440 --> 01:38:31.599
this uh about YouTube Subs I couldn't even find that twitch was running until

01:38:29.440 --> 01:38:37.159
I actually checked the web page can one of you explain what a

01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:37.159
gaming keys are used

01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:44.760
for I3 plus 650 TI or I5 with 6509 TI

01:38:42.360 --> 01:38:49.400
I'd go I3 with 650 TI what about you depends on his use case but yeah

01:38:46.520 --> 01:38:55.440
probably what monitors do you each use I'm using some ancient Ben Q thing but I

01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:59.280
have two ASUS pb278 so 27 in 2560 by

01:38:55.440 --> 01:39:02.840
1440s inbound I have pa48 Q's so we both

01:38:59.280 --> 01:39:04.159
use auss um IPS panels I really although

01:39:02.840 --> 01:39:09.280
at that same point in time if you're going for a cheaper IPS panel LG makes a

01:39:07.080 --> 01:39:14.040
lot of really good IPS panels that are cheap Acer has some really nice IPS

01:39:11.320 --> 01:39:16.880
Cheapo monitors these days so just like just because we use ASUS monitors

01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:20.239
doesn't mean that's all you should go for with the Xbox One and PS4 both being

01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:24.360
AMD based do you think there will be more games optimized for an AMD based

01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:30.440
system no um is Haswell good enough for PC gaming

01:39:27.360 --> 01:39:32.679
yes 300 a.m. watching The W show all

01:39:30.440 --> 01:39:36.080
right I saw that EA article knew you guys were going to mention it

01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:40.880
e love it would a 660 be good for 1080p

01:39:39.440 --> 01:39:44.080
gaming it would be okay I wouldn't expect it to last a real long time

01:39:42.440 --> 01:39:49.199
especially with new consoles launching they're so cheap now though have you seen the price drops on them people are

01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:55.960
getting them for like incredibly low amounts of money all right 7970 Matrix

01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:58.360
edition versus gtx780 GTX 780 tasty PC

01:39:55.960 --> 01:40:03.960
has actually declined I haven't reached out to Corsair George yet but that's a

01:40:01.280 --> 01:40:08.199
great idea and I really want to do that and JJ will be joining us next week yep

01:40:06.480 --> 01:40:12.040
Corsair George is a great idea that's a great idea I really like George he's

01:40:10.040 --> 01:40:14.760
awesome I love the new format of the live stream seems much more professional

01:40:13.440 --> 01:40:19.639
and fluid except for that bit where we couldn't get Lou's uh mic going thanks

01:40:17.199 --> 01:40:22.840
to Windows automatically adjusting the S yeah I was like people can hear him but

01:40:20.679 --> 01:40:25.960
he's low I know that's bizarre right yeah I know that's a thing that happens

01:40:24.280 --> 01:40:30.280
I just never really thought about the process because it's lowering xits

01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:33.440
volume which shouldn't really yeah do you have Maximus six formula in the mail

01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:38.320
not yet although I should probably bug JJ about it because I'm really excited about bu about it all in the live stream

01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:44.119
so he has all that pressure yeah so he has no choice but to send us a Maximus 6

01:40:40.679 --> 01:40:48.199
formula uh those won't fit in my case

01:40:44.119 --> 01:40:50.040
okay then get something else NHD 14 or

01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:55.480
Silver Arrow what are some cool things I can fill my PCI slots with sound card

01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:59.880
yeah get a sound card you can still get a lot of PCI sound cards you can get a

01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:02.000
zoner sdx PCI you know what there's not

01:40:59.880 --> 01:41:07.480
much to put in an expansion slot these days I have a sound card and a raid Card

01:41:04.719 --> 01:41:13.840
Sound raid video Yeah USB expansion ah yes so this is for

01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:18.840
the system for Mr Wizard one of our administrators on the Linus Tech tips

01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:21.119
Forum um we uh we arranged for him to

01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:25.360
get a six Core Extreme Edition 980x system the one problem with that system

01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:30.040
is didn't have an internal usb3 header to run to the usb3 front panel Port so

01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:35.080
we picked up this Silverstone card what was it 30 bucks it it was like I think

01:41:32.679 --> 01:41:40.080
20 or 25 but then with shipping and taxes and everything it became p e Gen 2

01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:43.800
it's good should be able to get full bandwidth no it's like it's a nice card

01:41:42.159 --> 01:41:47.440
silverstone's that company that just doesn't get enough credit for the cool

01:41:45.400 --> 01:41:51.400
stuff they do because other companies have made these but one thing I found

01:41:49.280 --> 01:41:57.199
about this is is it had everything yeah the had everything and the external

01:41:54.080 --> 01:41:59.599
ports yeah and like oh yeah yeah

01:41:57.199 --> 01:42:03.679
Silverstone they just I wish they would mark it better it's like what Lou was

01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:08.560
saying where at the end of the day this can be the best USB expansion card on

01:42:06.480 --> 01:42:12.719
the market and if Silverstone doesn't figure out how to make people desire it

01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:17.239
with whether it's a flashy campaign or whatever else no one will ever know yeah

01:42:15.639 --> 01:42:21.840
cuz my my computer that I hauled the lands it's an old 775 platform that

01:42:19.400 --> 01:42:27.320
still performs fairly well but the case has usb3 on it and it's just a dead Port

01:42:25.080 --> 01:42:30.719
because I can't now that I've seen this I'm kind of like oh if I buy one of

01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:33.920
those that could really bring some buy one of those and an SSD that could

01:42:32.599 --> 01:42:40.560
really breathe life back into that system but you hadn't even heard of the bloody thing up till now NE neither of

01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:42.639
us had neither knows like it's cool that

01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:46.000
it exists but I'd never actually I'd never needed one so I'd never looked for

01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:50.280
one and no one has ever told me anything about it because no one seems to

01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:54.080
care okay well we should probably do build of the week because we've been

01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:59.119
streaming for an hour and half already over sure so bring it on builds of the

01:42:57.119 --> 01:43:03.840
week we've got three this week actually because a certain user on our Forum

01:43:01.599 --> 01:43:08.280
keeps on getting in here but I can't leave him out because his builds are too

01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:11.560
good so I didn't want to like just have it so every time he build something

01:43:10.040 --> 01:43:15.360
someone gets knocked off a build of the week so I threw him in there on the end

01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:20.639
not because he isn't deserving but because he's already been in twice okay

01:43:18.639 --> 01:43:25.080
so we'll we'll see when we get there so just so you guys know builds of the week

01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:28.679
and are in the build log section of the Forum you can check them out there and

01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:33.199
in the lonus news and ramblings or whatever section I'm going to post our

01:43:30.480 --> 01:43:36.280
entire W show document so you can click any of the links of any of the articles

01:43:34.960 --> 01:43:41.520
that we were discussing and all that good stuff so let's switch over here and

01:43:38.639 --> 01:43:45.360
boom Arc underwater so this is by fail wheeel Drive I see a lot of people do

01:43:43.480 --> 01:43:49.520
green builds but I don't necessarily see a lot of people do green builds that

01:43:46.840 --> 01:43:53.440
well this it just looks super sharp he had to do a couple custom cuts I know he

01:43:51.400 --> 01:44:02.199
had to do some custom cuts to his OD uh bay fit in radiator yeah so just super

01:43:57.719 --> 01:44:04.159
sharp super clean and I love this it's

01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:07.239
build like this like I I try and pick the best picture I possibly can but you

01:44:05.719 --> 01:44:12.080
guys really need to go to the Forum and check out the thread because he has a

01:44:09.639 --> 01:44:16.760
ton of really nice photos and it doesn't justify it to be in one picture right

01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:20.960
okay um so so please go check this guy's build out it's awesome that is gorgeous

01:44:18.840 --> 01:44:24.960
look at this look at this great pump res combo he's got going on here that makes

01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:29.080
it extremely clean you've eliminated a couple of components he's got it uh

01:44:26.840 --> 01:44:33.880
right looks like it's bolted to the radiator very nice really really clean

01:44:32.080 --> 01:44:37.280
build looks really sharp and he did Green well which really like I know I

01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:41.320
already said that but green can look kind of tacky sometimes and I like the

01:44:40.280 --> 01:44:45.719
the color that he picked for it and everything now this one I picked an

01:44:43.400 --> 01:44:49.480
interesting angle for the picture but you'll notice immediately why I picked

01:44:47.719 --> 01:44:54.440
that there's window in the top there's a window in the top there's it the whole

01:44:51.560 --> 01:45:01.480
color of the theme is very Dusty interesting so he's gone with a saber to

01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:04.080
or rather a a tough series AMD board by

01:45:01.480 --> 01:45:07.040
the look of things is that what that is or no as he colored the heat sinks what

01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:11.679
is this he's done a lot of stuff he's cut

01:45:09.560 --> 01:45:16.000
the back out here on the on the on the uh right side panel he's actually

01:45:13.639 --> 01:45:19.760
printed Tomb Raider in big printing which looks really good he went with the

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red and black text which I think was actually a good idea because that's how

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it is in their logo although it suit the build better if it was all black now

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again please go look at this guy's thread because you can get other angles

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I had to show that top window cuz that's so cool but if you can actually get in

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there in the computer you can see his color theming on everything and it's

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awesome look at that he got right to the edge with that top window that's very

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unique I've never seen anything quite like that super super cool you know what

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probably my favorite modded build is ever also kind of window related someone

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did uh do you remember the p12 SE

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that mirror finish antech case someone

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got a a two-way mirror and did a a side

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panel window on it that if the lights inside were off was a mirror and when he

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turned on the lights inside you could see all the internal components it was for sale on like Red Flag deals or

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something and I was like going to buy it

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has a case like that now it's like 700 bucks though oh wow now SNF this is the

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guy who's been here a few times wow his builds are always amazing I

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can't leave the mod of build doogs of the week but then I don't really want them to take over other people's chances

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again tons of different angles i p I chose this one because it shows the

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intricate intricacy of his tubing

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because that's insane wow that is just

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unbelievable the planning that goes into this nice straight runs always look so

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much better than curved runs it's just the

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truth and like he he

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he made a custom label for his SSD and a custom label for his power supply that

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both go with the purple Chimera theme

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wow super nice yeah that's outstanding I

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I've heard through multiple channels that he had to sell this one which is

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unfortunate but I mean and like the graphics card looks super nice you got

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but you got to see it from the other side so definitely again check out this

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thread on the Forum and yeah build doogs week this

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week pretty freaking cool yeah that was

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uh that was quite the Run of awesome build logs this week all right guys I

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think that pretty much wraps it up thank

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you for tuning in to the L show this week guys uh stay tuned for the

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Afterparty although it might be a bit of a shorter version of the Afterparty

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and is that it thanks for watching yeah

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hopefully I didn't embarrass myself too badly with that story at the beginning

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do we have to do a outro

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TR all right