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not twice but three times how old are you I was well there
was nothing I could do there was a cliff on one side there was bumper-to-bumper
traffic piss out the door before I pissed myself hours and hours to hours
and hours to get down I was like Dad what do I do and is like I don't know
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would you rather embarrass yourself by peeing on the seat or embarrass yourself
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traffic like put blockers up like people stopped and like having like tailgate
barbecues on their trucks with their propane because we're not moving so do
you just pee there wh which option is better for you um totally totally open
to feedback here I I was I was too embarrassed to get out of the car
fortunately or unfortunately the seats were leather so at least it was going to
come out but yeah it was uh it was one of those experiences you have in life
that uh is unfortunate was I was I was
not expecting that start to the W show actually no no I uh I I have never told
you that story in fact I haven't told that story many times in general it's uh
not one of those stories that I'm particularly proud of so we've got a
great show for you guys we have special guest Lou from unbox therapy we've got
um this guy I do things this guy we've
got a bunch of great topics including the uh the first reviews are out of
ASUS's 4k monitor which is extremely exciting as you guys know I'm all about
the 4K and leaks of Dell's possible 4K
mon
yeah wow leaks of Dell's possible 4K
monitors uh Samsung's new 840 Evo SSD
honestly from what I've seen it looks like the only SSD that actually I should
give any cares about anymore it's uh looks unbelievable as well as slicks
expert uh you know correspondent analysis
of what Microsoft could do to save Windows 9 to actually appeal to every
customer have you read it I have read it it's actually pretty okay I don't
disagree with you yeah and that's pretty good for me and him uh oh yeah my
Watermark where's my Watermark uh don't worry we're going to
run the intro we just finished doing the intro Diesel's afraid that I'll forget
to run his awesome intro that we hardcore love long time and boom qu
it I missed it gonna try that one more time
all right so there is the intro someone
says they hate it someone says best intro of all time so we're going to go
ahead and call that it's all right 50%
of the time all the time yeah
exactly whoa my brain just exploded so
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call them from now on the twitters or I want to see what people think I would
pee on another person's car looking straight in their eyes not losing eye
contact the whole time come on if you're like nine I don't think so
I'd rather let it go out the window own your body man and then Brian seems to be
unrelated you're going to make me get Instagram aren't you um I am going to
continue using Instagram so so that's kind of a thing and for some reason I'm
not getting any tweets so uh
huh there you go there's two watching
from Texas love the wo guys what should
I get two GTX wow that went fast all of a sudden 2 GTX 7 60s are 1780 also tell
slick I love his little beard I don't think that's an intentional beard is it
what do you mean the your beard it's an intentional beard it's an intentional
beard I shave this part oh okay well um
I'm trying to enjoy it before I inevitably volunteer for firefighting
and have to take it off you're not allowed to have a beard As A Firefighter
well it will your skin won't make contact with a mask as well ah okay okay
it it makes sense cuz you need it to be able to stick against your skin and like
we figured out with the ninja mask my hair pokes through things and stuff
gotcha all right saurin asks for headphones in the $200 to $250 range
you're really happy with your custom one Pros right yeah they're awesome and they often go on sale around that range hard
to say no to that play Modern games on Afterparty we'll see if we can even figure out playing games on the
Afterparty should I buy a 7950 now or wait for new AMD cards no idea uh we
don't know uh h100i intake or exhaust on
Phantom 410 mounted in the top all other intake go ahead and use it as an exhaust
ducky shine three up for pre-order ordering mine tomorrow only certain
places have them for pre-order and a lot of places that have them oh wait this is
shine 3 yeah I know he should be fine I was thinking snake a lot of them are
sold out all right going to upgrade to 4770k is there any motherboard you'd
recommend especially what is overclocking Noob friendly for up to
$300 honestly for $300 you can buy
pretty much whatever you want and we have a very exciting video coming soon
where we are going to take two z70 uh Z87 boards uh would you remember which
two they are it's a uh I don't remember the exact model name but it's a Gigabyte
ITX Wi-Fi board little
board versus a rampage Maximus extreme
so we uh we overclock them both we run some benchmarks we find out actually in
our experience what difference does it
actually make uh versus I mean there's always the features that are added by
better board so example for example the Maximus 6 formula has much better
onboard audio which can save you buying a sound card with that said I've always
believed that buying a very high quality sound card because of the way audio
equipment doesn't really change much over time uh a good quality sound card
from three years ago four years ago something like an azente X Meridian or
something like that um still a good
sound card if you can find a PCI slot to put it in so I recommend rather than
investing in a better board that has better sound you grab a great sound card
and put it in whatever board you happen to buy also looks a lot better in
Aesthetics matter yeah true that all right so unbox therapy has uh
has tweeted that he's going to be joining us
soon that's very very exciting he's a really great guy we've actually met in
person in the past and uh enjoyed some
uh pretty actually it was some pretty suspect like barbecue make it-yourself
food that uh yeah we were hanging out with Logan as well so there's some
pictures from that trip but uh it was it was pretty great actually so let's do
our first topic of the day shall we sure
what do you want to what do you want to hit him with first why don't we talk PQ
321 sure sure all right so anante has one of the first
reviews out there of the PQ 321 Q Ultra
HD monitor living with a 31 1/2 in 4k
desktop display so guys I do highly
recommend taking a complete sort of you know it probably only take you about 15
minutes 20 minutes long read through the review because they touch on some really
interesting points about this for those of you who don't know one of the first
4K desktop monitors that is actually intended to be hooked up to a computer
yeah what's your take on this I read through the review yeah and the first
thing that I noticed was he said the color gamut wasn't exactly where he hoped it would be it was almost 100% of
srgb if I recall correctly but some of it was in the wrong yeah wrong spots so
so it's exciting because they're getting these lower size 4K resolutions and one
thing that he said is a he kind of expected um it to not be that big of a
difference because it's so close to him yeah but that he instantly noticed that
it was so much sharper yes I mean I could have told there I think Chris
Chris is the reviewer over there that that did this particular write up and I
could have told him a 4k monitor was going to make a very very big difference
but for me to invest $3,500 I mean I had
talked about you know maybe I want to go 4K but the reality of it is is there's a
couple reasons why I'm not ready would I be willing to sell my bike and drop all
of that money that I get back for it on a monitor potentially yes especially
then mind you I'm back on my bike for this season and I'm kind of questioning
how I could have ever been crazy enough to think about that but I was going to
say now that it's summertime you're actually riding it that's
yeah but the the flip side of that or
the but the the other hand of that discussion is yeah it's it's expensive
would I be willing to drop the money maybe but there's still some problems y
so the display standards aren't really ready yet for
the most part HDMI is not going to be ready until HDMI 2.0 when we're going to
be able to drive 4K at 60 HZ off of a single interface when I was talking to
the ASUS guys that were at Lan couver uh
they were saying that part of the reason that they didn't have games running on
the one that was there was that they needed some driver hookum hookum
whatever word you want to use for it in order to have the two display
interfaces work correctly as a as as as
teaming together to drive a single panel so that to me is a big concern as well
is what happens to this weird Nish product that ASUS sells however many
they sell like I'm not going to say 10
but I'm also not going to say 10,000 in North America anyway and that's the
danger is what happens to weird nich products that lead the charge on some
kind of a new technology and then ultimately get abandoned look at the x25
M from Intel of all of all companies and the x2e people invested a ton of money
into those early gen ssds they never got
trim they never got proper they never
they never got proper garbage collection if I recall correctly like they just
kind of got abandoned because they didn't sell enough for it to be worth
the R&D time of fixing it after the fact
and that's a really good point because it's it's prohibitively expensive yes it
has its problems yes what I'm excited for is when they get it smaller size cuz
31 and2 is huge 31 30 in is already like
I I used 30in for quite a while and I got used to it but then what happened
was I recently switched back to 24 and even though it was noticeable I don't
really miss that huge I miss the resolution yeah love to have the
resolution back but exactly I'm excited
for 24 in I'm excited to buy two 24in 4K
monitors that are affordable what do you consider affordable I don't know would
you spend 750 each no cuz it's going to be a long time
before they're going to be less than that yes but I'm very happy with my current monitors true true that and I'm
totally fine with waiting so it's you
had really really good points it's interesting buying in on technology like this I think I've done it once I bought
a Nia okay it wasn't it wasn't super expensive it was fun though okay so it
would it was fundamentally broken yes it was terrible but it was fun okay I
enjoyed messing around with it I got my money out of it I was happy it got abandoned that's fine okay whereas and
I'm not saying that this monitor is not going to work 3 years from now it will
and DisplayPort is a much better solution than you know dual HDMI in but
there's all those early growing paines I mean early 2560 X 1600 monitors none of
them had onscreen displays because the processing chips required to um none of
them had scalers so the because the processing required to do all this stuff
was just Out Of Reach so you just had to drive it natively um and so the onscreen
display ain't great on this thing but one thing that's cool about the uh about
the PQ 321 Q is that the input leg isn't
bad yeah that's outstanding it's about the same as the pb278 which I have two
of them incoming when they finally get in stock at the place I've ordered them
um and I've gamed on that monitor not bad it's not a CRT but it's not bad so
uh that I find really exciting how close we are from that perspective but uh yeah
I think that's it's exciting and if you have the money that's great but o yeah a
lot of money it's a lot of money it's a lot of money I saw actually it's not in
the uh it's not in our show do but I saw someone was running three of the sharp
displays uh in in ifinity off of a 7970
uh Matrix or whatever from Theus so it's like
12K display essentially just absurd
unbelievable he had them on loan so it's like $10,000 worth of displays right um
that's the other thing that I'm really waiting for with 4K is more competition
you look what happened with TVs with Seiko just kind of Marching In and being
like yo guys this doesn't cost that much not a great TV but still in fact the
reviews are terrible yeah they're basically saying don't bother just go
get a 1080 PTV but um but I'm waiting for someone other
than freaking sharp to have something other than a 32in panel I mean that's a
professional geared product in the first place well the the the Dell leaks are
pretty much just product numbers as I tell sure it's in here somewhere as far
as I could tell what the Del leak is that they're basically just product numbers but one thing that I saw was I
think it was like 2414 and it seemed like they all all the
4K ones ended in 14 so that got me excited because 24 in I'm assuming the
first two numbers are inch so 24 in uh
4k monitor which is what I'm super excited for I'm sure it's going to be way too expensive but that's that's the
size that I'm excited for with that said Dell's been reasonably reasonable about
some stuff so this was submitted on the Linus Tech tips Forum by snow Comet so
uh it was a leak in the Soundbar manual
because their Soundbar I don't know if you're familiar with it is usually uh
cross compatible with multiple Dell monitors so here are the leaked models
the up 320 3 3214 Q so that is in all
likelihood of 4K 32 in using the same EXO panel as everyone else that's
another thing is when we get more panel manufacturers playing the game yeah
that's going to help a lot the up 2414 Q
the U24 14h and then
u3415w so Q might be 4K or whatever else
fascinating I I I still have oh oh just
an FYI guys this IP is not the IP of the poster I forgot again to uh log into a
different account guys if you if you were to watch our streams over sort of a
longer period of time you'd notice that IPS repeat themselves a fair bit because
they are the IPS that have to do with the security system for our Forum not to
do with the actual members of our Forum so there you go just throwing that out
there let's go ahead and uh move on to
our next topic shall we NVIDIA has a new Quadro video card so they just recently
unveiled so this was submitted by ich chondo the quadro k6000 GPU so this is
based on a Titan GK 110 core it has 12
gigs we'll let that sink in for a
moment 12 gigs of gddr5 memory and uh
that makes it pretty much when it comes to 3D rendering uh animation simulation
applications pretty much the fastest
possible GPU that can exist right now um
now we'll talk about that a little bit so there's a couple of really great
great quotes uh from pix so this is their uh uh vice president of software
R&D the Kepler features are key to our next Generation real-time lighting and
geometry handling if you guys have seen Monsters U yet you may have noticed that
there's a completely different look to that film compared to previous Pixar
films because instead of manually um
programming lighting they're actually having the lighting Just Bounce Around
the way that it normally would making it much more natural looking so we were
thrilled to get an early look at the k6000 the added memory and other
features allows artist to see much more of the final scene in realtime
interactive form and allows many more artistic
iterations um and then uh niss is saying
that they can view they can pull up almost an entire car in like realistic
life lifelike realism to you know look
at things and Tinker with it and all that kind of stuff and then they have
another one from Apache um that combined
with Leap Motion could be really cool oh yeah I know right Compu are computers
are changing um so yeah Apachi is energy
for energy exp exploration they're saying Drilling in the wrong place can be a multi-million dollar mistake and
the k6000 gives the edge to make better
decisions wow that's a little bit blunt
yeah it's like yeah we needed this power
otherwise yeah all the dollars just byebye so in addition to all of
that I would like to settle once and for
all that just because a graphics card
costs $5,000 versus something like a
Titan that costs $1,000 and is actually built on the same architecture that has
nothing to do with gaming
performance these cards are not gaming
cards they use workstation grade memory
for example because you can't afford to make a mistake they have the full
capability of their double Precision calculations that they need to do they
have software features that are not enabled on desktop Parts they are bended
to a higher degree of quality they are expected to last longer run under lower
thermal EnV run inside lower thermal envelopes for example the quadro and
Diesel's workstation on the desktop side
or for the for the graphics side the GeForce side was a dual slot cooler his
is a single slot cooler because it's a better Bend part and they were able to
achieve that with that particular card so guys I'm so tired of seeing uh Builds
on PC part picker that are like yeah I did an ultimate build I put in four
quadrant no you didn't because that's not for gaming so there you go uh why
don't we do a quick Twitter Blitz and uh I'll I'll do this blitz while you get
Lou on the line sure sure do you have the snowball set up oh yep oh oh oh um
oh I'll figure it out here sweet all
right all right cool actually uh I've got I've got comms I've got comms up
here is uh yeah yeah L he's in the channel already l in the channel already
so we should be ready to go pretty quick after this Twitter Blitz here guys here
we go I have an i5 3450 I want to
upgrade an m a designer I use Photoshop and Maya any suggestions um you know
what you're going to get a bit of a performance increase especially if you go for something like a K series
processor a 4670k and overclock it or even a 4770k because you will be able to
take advantage of hyper reading with that said if um if your workloads
perform well on an AMD pile driver chip something like an 8350 is a great value
but um you know what I guess what I'd probably do is 3770k for you because you
don't have to change your board and um
and you're going to get you're going to be able to take advantage of hyperthreading as well as potentially
overclocking that CPU can you run games in multim monitor
across um oh okay yeah unbox therapy is
ready to go but we're not quite ready for for just yet so uh I'm going to
finish this blitz there you go uh you guys really need to look at the camera
more rather than talking just to yourselves thank you Muhammad for the feedback um there's only so much we can
do someone asks Afterparty yes there will be an Afterparty I made a video
about the ASUS 4k display they used a the ifinity for merging two halves of
the display oh PC per made a video about it cool going live in about 10 minutes
come say hi Oh thanks for tweeting that Lou um you know what let's go back and
let's see what some of the oh the Apple TV got moved any air water coolers that
would be good for overclocking at 3570k something like an h100i would be a great
choice yeah yeah on the air cooling side
um I love the Silver Arrow NH
hd4 these are all high-end Solutions you can also pick up a hyper 212 plus like
like the masses uh 12K setup how will the GPU keep up with this it'll be quite
difficult we need more GPU power apparently we're on the front page of
twitch that's outstanding that's awesome should I get you should get neither of
those things they are both wastes of money just outright wastes of money oh
you you know what we should do a video on like just how utterly asinine it is
to buy a low-end graphics card we'd have to get one we'll just buy it they only
cost like $20 so who cares really I've never even looked I know no I've
actually never looked at the price of like like the price to Performance ratio
of these cards is just broken it's just horrible don't even bother slick have
you played Skyrim legendary Edition yep and have you gotten into Clos beta even
if I that would be under NDA even if I was
I farted on the laptop and a little bit of smoke came out of it okay all right
so let's go ahead and have Lou join us then at this point because apparently
things have gotten a little bit silly so I'm going to go ahead and add a media
file where we have a oh diesel didn't
put it in the this folder but it's okay because cuz I got this i got this i got
this L unbox therapy bam there's a
portrait there's the guy who will be joining us right
about now hey Lou how are you he will be
connected in a second he'll be connected in a second yep oh all right he's got to
turn on his mic so Lou apologizes in advance for his microphone it's
apparently not that great I haven't heard it yet but not that B it's not
terrible but L you're going to want to mute the
stream over there how about now how about now am I
there yet you are
here you guys all right there we
go jumping down sorry hello hello hello
you are live
yeah we can turn him up a little bit I
think all right so you are our very
second special guest and uh we are extremely excited to have you join us do
you want to take just a brief moment and uh sort of introduce yourself to the
audience those of you who AR familiar can't hear you um let me see there's
something going on here he can't hear us apparently oh okay okay well in that
case he you guys I'll say a little bit
about what uh oh hold on I wonder if it's our fault
still pretty quiet I can't hear
anything just using this just using it
okay yeah and it shows if it shows a light there it means it's picking up
hear you guys I don't know if you can hear me or not uh oh hold on let's uh
let's hit him on the chat should I try and jump out and jump back I got it I
got it you can hear me but I can't hear you
yeah I think our audience can hear
you okay Lou's going to try reconnecting so I'm going to give you guys a little
bit of a brief history of unbox therapy
so unbox therapy is a channel that as you may or may not have deduced at this
point is centered around the concept of
unboxing as a way to clearly demonstrate
a product and to really give people that hands-on experience yeah you can hear me
but um when we tested it earlier I heard
you uh loud and clear now nothing I could just see the
chat
mhm okay well here we
go wait what's that this is also your
okay so if you close that one is it possible that'll address it I guess it's
possible it shouldn't really but okay I'm going to turn it off and start it
again Lou can you hear me
oh
boy well we're having one of those moments here
guys we are going to try no I just checked that we did test this before the
show so uh it worked totally fine worked 100%
correctly I don't think I don't think it's my end only because I didn't change
anything I literally let this thing sit here prior to uh the stream and I was
talking earlier when we did the test run all right I think I don't know why I
can't hear you guys though okay we're going to relaunch
comms and we'll be back in just tight and leave it the way it
is okay there we go let's try this one more time so I've had a bit of a monkey
wrench thrown in my whole introduction of Lou
oh monkey wrenches love Mony wrenches
it's hard to do a topic in the meantime if we're trying to get audio running
here uh that is a good point although I can do a other random topic sure go for
it give me one quick second to jump onto something
here that was a community item so I'm going to have to find something that
isn't because I can't link to the screen that's going to be interesting uh
there's a case starter project that got destroyed basically oo I wanted to talk
about this with Lou okay
okay oh I got you
now I I was a little bit worried there for a minute but the wonders of
Technology oh wow um yeah a little bit
of background I I guess I I think I started by accident um I I just uh
wanted to make the same kind of videos I guess that oh is am I too
quiet who's
quiet oh my
God I can hear you guys I can hear you guys perfectly but I don't think anybody
can hear anyone
else who oh boy okay can the stream hear
us now everyone said they can just hear Lou
and apparently Lou broke the uh the entire internet so um hold on a second
let's go ahead and try try something
here oh boy you got to tell him to come over
oh it's Windows oh my God hey okay this doesn't
work now are we good no I don't think so
oh yes we're good boom it was Windows
blaming me well could have been your fault just as easily as anything else it
was all right so Lou tell us about unbo
therapy tell us how you got started on this stuff and hopefully they can
actually hear you this time right I I see some comments saying Lou Lou is fine
so I guess they can hear me um we're good now what's up everybody thank you
for having me on uh the show today first of all I want to get that out of the way
and uh yeah to answer your question I've been doing this for about two and a half
years I think and uh in the beginning it
was pretty it was Amateur hour and we've
sort of slowly improved improved the
operation uh and and added a little bit of production value and had had a couple
of different people working on it and uh I guess our approach since since the
beginning was to sort of add some cinematic value to the process of making
Tech videos or making product based videos so when did you feel like it
really exploded for you I mean I know that already because I've been keeping a
very close eye on you since you had around oneth the number of subscribers
you have now by the way congratulations you broke 500,000 I believe
today uh yeah I think yeah either today or yesterday um yeah pretty crazy just a
lot of people but um yeah I think uh for
me it probably picked up somewhere I want to say like maybe a year and a half
in or something like that where I realized that this was a real thing that
people were doing professionally and I guess I I I started
to put a different level of focus onto it and to be honest with you like I I
mean I love doing it at this point in time I really couldn't imagine you know
having a regular day job or something like that this is uh it really I mean it
gets cliche because a lot of people say it but it's it's one of the best things to do as as you
know I I really do we're uh we're both
in very unique positions where where we have these huge established audiences
and it gives the flexibility to try things and to experiment and to start to
have some fun with it now I wanted to talk to you about this before we really
dive into some of our regular W show topics I get asked this all the time and
I have my sort of standard response that I usually say but people ask me how do I
get started on this
right yeah I know it's uh you could have
you could have an inbox full of those question on a daily basis and I was on
actually on a broadcast yesterday and we sort of covered a similar topic because
uh you know honestly when I started out I didn't I ever I don't think I reached
out to anyone with that particular question and part of that had to do I
guess part of that had to do with me making some assumptions maybe some
educated assumptions that that this having having success in this particular
arena being such a new one was going to require some Ingenuity and some trial
and error and all of those things and so when people ask me for a set of
guidelines I mean there are way too many variables that play for me to give you a
Playbook on how to get viewers on YouTube YouTube or how to have success
or how to add subscribers because at the end of the day you're making a piece of
entertainment and what people find entertaining or what people are drawn
towards is relatively subjective how do you know before getting into it whether
or not you're entertaining or whether or not people give a [ __ ] about what you're
saying I mean you just don't know until you try absolutely I think that's a very
good point and the the the the funny thing about that is that was one of the
things that made me notice you and what you were doing because up until then as
far as Tech unboxings went there was only a maybe a handful of guys who were
my size or bigger or even close and what
I noticed about the approach that you had was it was completely different from
what anyone else was doing where you were taking on boxing and you were
putting your own spin on it and I think a lot of people I mean a lot of people
send me their gameplay videos or their uh let's plays hey lonus can you check
this out and give me your feedback and I kind of look at it and I go well what have you done that's different and I
think that might be the solution right I mean it's never it's never a bad idea to
innovate uh you know you can't go the other way where you try so hard to do
something unusual and it could be terrible too so I mean I mean it it it
really requires some attention to detail and some attention to uh the reaction of
your viewers I mean you do have to listen you do need to pay attention if
you can't answer every single comment or engage with every single user you can at
least read through some stuff and and and sort of get an idea of what's
working and what isn't working and and that really helps you to edit yourself
because that's what that's one of the most difficult things to do uh in this
business when you're working in relatively small companies or even by
yourself in the beginning is how do you how do you determine what to leave in
and what to take out it's very difficult when when it's only yourself working on
it absolutely and you know what I think this leads into one of our discussion
topics really well small inter interaction versus big interaction so
things like Twitter Vine Instagram versus Facebook go+ YouTube how do you
how do you feel that these things complement each other or compete with
each other you know um this is a this is a
pretty interesting topic to me like I I'm I have a a pretty significant level
of interest at least I think so in in social media and how it all uh affects
my business I mean I guess the same could be said for a lot of other businesses but mine in particular I
think I think you could you can really notice a huge increase in your traction
if if you can get a grip and get a handle on social media um especially
with with when we get into another topic that we're going to talk about today regarding the subboxes on YouTube but um
but but but before we get there it's like yeah um Facebook I recently I recently
switched my P my regular human profile to one of what they call a brand page
and uh after doing that I noticed a couple of things that occurred first of
all I was reaching fewer people but uh
as a as a side effect of that it meant that some things were modified in my
account where I wasn't getting the same number of personal interactions in my
inbox because for for somebody who gets a lot of communication in inbox whether
it be on YouTube or Facebook is an incredibly terrible place to communicate
um because horrible because what ends up happening is that you end up
communicating with one individual with your answer nothing is public and as a
result you end up answering the same thing a hundred different times and when
you're when you're when you become uh
you know a glorified uh Administration person you can't be making videos it's
impossible to to handle both so I much prefer Twitter from that standpoint
because the conversations are generally public and mostly public and they're
short and so short when you have social
interaction on a format like Twitter uh essentially the the comments become or
the the at messages become like headlines like in a newspaper and when
you scan a newspaper you can easily sort through what is the relevant information
what do I need to get back to um you can triage the news essentially and your and
and the communication that your audience has with you becomes news uh versus this
little thing off in private somewhere in an inbox that H that is very difficult
to triage very difficult to quickly look at an inbox and say this is important
this is not important and and where where can I start to work I mean I
basically avoid inboxes at all costs now uh Twitter Twitter is probably your best
chance to get in touch with me and to get a response because at least I know
if I respond to you other people can then go look at that response if they
have the same question absolutely and I mean I think uh one of the strengths of
Twitter leading into our next discussion topic which is why is the YouTube
subscription feed always broken yeah um I have heard I have heard
some people some other YouTubers that I communicate with that have had contact
with Google Google themselves and I have heard that it is intentionally broken um
and and and the theory behind that is similar to what's happening on Facebook
right now which is that people are inundated with content that the power
users are subscribed to so many channels that uh it becomes difficult for YouTube
to figure out what it is that they actually want to watch and that's why I think they moveed to that activity feed
or what to watch next on mobile devices I think they think better than they
think they know better than you do as far as what you want to watch and so
they can use possibly they could be using a previous viewership data to
decide whether or not a subscription you have is something that you watch every
single time and whether or not to feed that back into the subbox OR to rec put
a some recommended video there or to uh
you know to leave it out uh I think this is especially a problem when you produce
a ton of content especially like you guys do um if you're putting up two
three four videos in one day it seems to
that the likelihood that that video is going to get lost and not reach the boxes becomes that much more likely
absolutely this is very true and this is one of the reasons for the longest time
I completely ignored Twitter Facebook and all of that stuff because partly
because it didn't really matter to me because I was working at a retailer I had my day job YouTube was a side
project for me but also partly because
um or not that well that's why I ignored it um and then the reason I started
paying attention to it was because of
needing to own the audience in a in a
way that goes beyond um you know Google's Divine will and how they've
decided that you should be allowed to interact I mean there's so many things
on YouTube that you look at that are look like they're broken on purpose
things like the subscription feed things like the inbox this is the creator of
Gmail and the conversation thread
concept yep YouTube has the worst inbox
in the world it's true yeah I don't I
don't I mean it really doesn't look like their intention is for people to enjoy
using the the inbox the inbox right now
I mean they could they could completely get rid of the Inbox and I'd be fine
with it absolutely and there are other things that are exactly the same looking
at like uh they don't want you to have access directly to your audience they
want to control that so things like how you used to be able to back in the day
this is maybe before your time but you used to be able to go through a list
of every single one of your subscribers that's true yeah yeah I recall such a
thing gone yeah they don't want you to
know as a user sorry as a user one thing
that annoys me is there's channels that I subscribe to this actually happened to
me a few days ago I briefly mentioned it to you there's channels that I
subscribed to like a year or two ago because I watched their stuff and
enjoyed it and then watched a random video by them recently when oh that's
really cool I should subscribe to these guys realize I was already subscribed to
them and went that's interesting I check YouTube almost every day and I've never
seen one of their videos in my subscription fee right which is nuts
because yeah I think I think I don't think you're the only one who's had had
an experience like that I get messages on Twitter um fairly regularly that that
things aren't reaching the subbox and you end up figuring out that the ones
who end up being that percentage that watch every single video they're they're
your super fans they're the ones who actually go out of their way to visit
the channel to verify that they that they've seen everything and and what
what's worked out on the network in terms of the number of fans that fit
into that category is about like 10% you know which is a which is pretty sad when
you think about it because you would assume that clicking a subscription
button is a fairly committal kind of thing it's like you know you're you're
saying that you want to see more content so the idea that only 10% of people
after the fact actually follow through on that seems pretty hard to believe
I think for me if I look at the analytics numbers because we can see
where views come from I think when I look at it on the videos that do really
well where it's a Hot Topic something like the Razer Blade 14 that we that we
launched a couple of days ago yeah um I'll get probably around 40,000 views
from subscribers which is exactly right there in that 10% of my total subscriber
number which is obviously a
fabrication well I mean if you've got fourou 400,000 users that share uh uh
you know the same kind of uh opinion and taste when it comes to content and
entertainment uh subject matter Etc you would assume that more than 10% would be
interested in a razor blade unboxing like that is like right in line with the
reason they subscribed so I I agree with you there seems to be something else at
play let's just hope it doesn't get to a point where we have to start paying to
reach people like on Facebook well what it started to feel like to me because
I'm looking cuz one of the one of the metrics I remember talking to you about
this uh we we ended up talking on the phone for like 4 hours or something
stupid like that this was back when I first met Lou and I think the the
conversation then was the metric that I look at for how strong a channel is is
the new subscriber growth rate how many new people click that button every
single day and I've been looking at the numbers and I go okay every day a
thousand new people click the button for both you and me sort of that 800 to a000
range why is it that when I release a video The Day After That thousand people
click maybe 10 of them or a hundred of them actually look at it they just
clicked yeah it is I mean it's it's it's pretty complicated I don't know I I
assume that there's some elaborate kind
of uh algorithm there that that figures out how they're going to distribute this
content I know they're obsessed right now with viewer viewing sessions more so
than than they are with view counts in general and they they may think that
they can recommend content to users that
might increase their SE session length
and and that that's more important to their endgame than it is for uh the user
to get what they think they want I think Google much like in a bunch of their
other products thinks that they know what we want more than we
do that's and and like I can understand
that from a certain degree but not necessarily because there's certain
types of content like Vice I like watching Vice but I'll sit down and
watch a whole thing of Vice but I don't want my entire subscription box to be
Vice other videos I'll script through it to see what I want I'll enjoy seeing
more of those than the vice videos but it'll give me less because I'm skipping
through it right whereas I might watch one or two Vice videos but I watch the
whole thing so my whole feed is always just Vice yep yeah I mean I see yeah I
mean I think like the the the Twitter model should should should work just as
well here I I don't click on every link that somebody posts but it doesn't mean
that I don't want to see their tweets that's right and if I didn't want to see
it will the unsubscriber or the unfollow buttons right there yep yep 100% I mean
there are there are a million ways to do this that are user-driven but Google
finds automated systems to be much more interesting so how do you feel as a
content creator do you feel like you need to divest from the YouTube
platform um I don't think so I mean I
think my goals have sort of changed as things as things have gone along uh you
know I think uh in in the beginning I thought AdSense was the be all and end
all like it would it would be sort of what we all relied upon but uh going
forward I realized that that real relationships meeting people uh creating
Connections in the entertainment business and elsewhere uh have the
potential to bring real value to what you're doing and to to you know
potentially give you access to resources that you never even realized you wanted
and and uh you know for me that means getting super creative like i' I guess
I've always been a creative person but I never imagined that at any point I'd be
sitting around trying to come up with the next idea for some some new video
but I think that YouTube for me rather than be uh you know my boss like I
originally looked at it now it's just um it's an outlet it happens to be the
platform the player essentially for for what I'm doing but I think that there
are probably many different ways to create businesses around the idea of
delivering video content online uh that maybe aren't necessarily YouTube I mean
I know a lot of networks all the large networks uh the first thing they'll do
when you sign with them is they will make sure that your content is places
other than YouTube I mean they'll get it on Daily Motion and they'll get it on uh
blip blip TV I mean they'll put anywhere they can put it they will put it and if
the networks continue to grow and continue to gather as much Steam and and
and be as powerful as they are and as they will be um I could totally imagine
them becoming their own conglomerate I mean the the power that exists in
networks now is is uh unbelievable I never would have imagined that that that
was what was going to happen here and it surprises me that YouTube let it
happen um yeah yeah I know it it um I
mean they're they're they're still doing it they're still letting networks Sprout
up from everywhere again I think Google is one of those companies that it's very
difficult to figure out they play such a long game you know it's like it's like a
chess match I have their their objective might be 10 steps down the road you
never really know why they make the decisions they make and at first they
might they they look really strange and and like they won't work but I mean some
of these some of those networks have have been sold recently revision 3 sold
the discovery um uh awesome awesomeness
TV sold the DreamWorks and we're talking deals in the tens of millions of dollars
maybe Google's goal in the short term is to bring some traditional Hollywood
money into the Productions that are occurring on YouTube and maybe they were
prepared to do that at a at a at a relatively large
cost we we've we've actually covered that before channels being backed by
like you just said traditional Hollywood money and it seems like it's going to
happen another topic that we have in here is
uh possible discussion is is this why
New Media has a chance to swoop in and eat traditional media's lunch uh yes I'd
like to I'd like to play this for the audience this is uh this is kind of
hilarious so hold on I'm just going to go ahead and full screen this and we're
going to switch to my laptop
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Island not Florida knows this time the boys are going over
the if we don't finish this job we're not getting
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fullo Island landscapers THS night at
9 so back to what I was saying that this
is why we both share view that big Hollywood money might be coming into
YouTube because we need to get away from this trash and more towards stuff that's
being produced for platforms like YouTube and this is what allowed New
Media to come and basically start eating
their lunch but now is this is this it then is the answer somewhere in the
middle where obviously like obviously
shows like Breaking Bad are going to
exist you need high production values people have an appetite for high
production values but they've also Dem demonstrated they have an appetite for
this like weird Indie content that's like guys opening boxes or you know guys
running around in sort of you know box armor hitting each other or whatever
else it happens to be was the answer somewhere in the middle where we take
that New Media creativity and that old media
money and is that what YouTube will be in five years sure or even just a
mix what do you think yeah yeah I mean
uh I think I think it's you're probably right it'll probably end up somewhere in
the middle I think what'll end up happening is guys like us regular dudes
who never intended to be where we are will likely get access to resources that
we never expected and what the outcome of that is it will be interesting to see
I don't think we're that URI is necessarily going to go out even with a
budget and necessarily make breaking bad but we might do
things we could just start a meth lab
but we you know we might do we might do things that people uh people enjoy and
didn't didn't really know that they were were going to enjoy I mean I really
think that the internet as a whole from a media delivery uh uh perspective has
has really changed uh pop culture in a
big way like I don't know in the future how easy it's going to be to Market
something as as popular to everyone when we've all become so sophisticated in our
own specific niches when we've decided like I mean you guys are on here on your
Channel and on this stream Etc talking about incredibly sophisticated things in
a particular subject matter that never could have happened on traditional media
because you needed to find a message that was suitable for millions of people
that you could you know cheaply broadcast on a dumb pipe to millions of
people all at once since that's not the case anymore I think everything's going
to get more interesting I think money in people's hands like you and I could
produce some stuff that we never even knew we wanted I think a great example
is something like video game high school too where it was crowdfunded and
actually I want to transition into some of our crowdfunding topics coming very
soon so it was crowdfunded and it is exactly what we're talking about where
it's the creativity of these and I'm not taking anything away from Freddy Wong
but relatively amateur folks they had some Talent uh but let's face it come on
their scripting is terrible the acting is terrible comparatively it's really
good for the platform it's on yes and it's really good for what they're but if
they took the creativity the mind that is Freddy Wong and they gave him the
money and the actors and the resources
maybe he's the kind of guy who could take that and really find that middle
ground and maybe Video Game High School season six or whatever his next major
project is is that thing Freddy Wong's G be huge Freddy Wong is huge yeah I mean
that's that's that's an important thing to remember I think is that you know the
the the more opportunities that a content creator has to sort of hone
their craft the better the stuff becomes if you look at our our early videos are
are likely terrible um I mean I'll speak for myself I'm not going to speak for
you oh mine are worse than yours so you know and and and as time goes on and as
you produce more content that changes and I think it I think of course it'll
be exactly the same for people like him that are working with larger budgets so
let's talk crowdfunding for a little bit we actually have a few things on the uh
on the stream or wait no I want to hear what you think of chomecast first your
hands on with one right yep um I've been
I've been playing with the chomecast uh since uh yesterday I first tested it out
and then we've been messing around with it a little bit today as well um I mean
it's 35 bucks it's crazy like I I I
remember as a kid sitting around thinking it would be amazing to broadcast wirelessly what's on my
computer onto my flat panel onto my bigger TV and the the fact that we can
do that now in HD with a device that
that is like the size of a USB key is um
is pretty damn impressive and so um from a technical standpoint it works
exactly as they say it's going to work I mean you can broad you broadcast a tab from your Chrome browser you install a
uh a little extension it takes a couple of seconds finds it automatically and
then uh in in the YouTube app on your
mobile device as well you you'll see a a chomecast button and you can just
immediately move anything you're watching from the couch up onto the up
onto the flat panel and what I said in my video was the reason that this is so
interesting to me is because the so far the YouTube experience from the couch is
terrible like on every device uh you know whether it's a game console or the
Apple TV or whatever like um searching for a video trying to have that sort
sort of be a video DJ with a bunch of people sitting around has been a bad
experience and this really changes that
in a in a really big way and it does so at a price point that a lot of people
are going to be interested in now I've been saying this since I saw the first
smart TV smart TV was Dead on Arrival it
was it never stood a chance we already had things like Patriot box office and
things like the ASUS o player WD Live
our my TV live or whatever they called that thing we already had these things
which were already better than the smart
TV implementations that we have now all these years later and now Google's
coming along and saying $35 don't worry about that smart TV it's
over yeah no no I completely agree I mean it's amazing you walk into a Best
Buy or future shop or whatever and you go through the TV aisle and they want to
charge $1,000 for for smart features or
at least 500 and I mean now they're
going to have a little device sitting on the shelf next to it and any sales guy
with a head on his shoulders is going to say listen get the dumbest panel you can
and plug this little HDMI device in and you're going to be better off cuz and I
love how it's it's Google so anyone could have released this and if it
worked this way well been like ah 200 bucks 250 bucks and no one would have
blinked an eye they would have been like that's a little bit expensive but it's awesome so everyone should buy it 35
bucks this is another example of they're thinking 10 steps ahead and like they're
doing something completely boners
and yeah it's definitely a lost leader um for the first bunch of sales they
were including three months of Netflix which brought the ACT which brought the
actual cost of the device to $11 they I think took that off yeah it's
gone no no they they did they they sold out of that particular promo but going
into it I mean this is a classic Google situation where they completely e either
they do it intentionally or they underestimate the demand for the products and it becomes a [ __ ]
show it's it's one or the it's it's one or the other I'm not sure I mean I
haven't figured it out yet I think I think that they suck at retail to be
honest with you so just make everything free and
just figure out how to deal with yeah yeah exactly well the funny thing was
like a bunch of people a bunch of people rushed to order it on the Google Play
Store right and they they had a 5-day
lead time from those purchases and then 45 minutes later Amazon launched and it
was available for next day delivery and so all these like enthusiasts who were
sitting around waiting to click their Mouse button on the Google Play Store got screwed and guys like me ended up
with it the next day aesome I I I I missed out on it
entirely so I found someone on Twitter who who follows me who ordered two right
away so I'm going to buy one of them off him and hopefully I'll get to play with
it pretty soon yeah you won't you won't regret it I mean it's it's a it's a
stupid easy device to take with you I can see carrying this thing um into
boardrooms uh into hotel rooms hotel rooms y it's it's crazy it's it's it's
really convenient so crowdfunding I wanted to
talk about a couple of things so number
one is ah yes have you heard about the
crowdfunded Ubuntu Android
phone it is it actually funded though
not yet yeah they're working on it but they want an enormous amount they want
an enormous amount of money though 35 million they want to break every record
from every Crown crowdfunding project ever they want 32 million by August
21st yeah um what are the odds
just I I honestly I don't I don't know I'm I'm probably GNA catch heat for this
especially from your audience but do it I mean the what makes great phones what
makes great consumer devices is Mass Appeal is scale you know when they when
when you have enough users that are out there in the public using them it means you're going to have a better ecosystem
of developers working on those devices I just don't see the value proposition of
having this this device you know in the
far corner of the room that you and 10 other people will have um I don't see
how that can be all that compelling this is not the only phone they're releasing
though this is just the super premium
ridiculous what I'm saying is what I'm saying is are they launching a
legitimate competitor to what's already out there or is this is this something
that's going to be for enthusiasts and it's a very good question because you
look at something like Blackberry 10 it was reviewed reasonably well in fact you
had said you felt that there was a place for it slick um in the market however
when's the last time you saw a Z1 or a Q10 in someone's hand and it's not a
matter of is it a good platform because I think we can all agree that it's good
but the problem is will you tear my Android device away from me or someone
else's iOS device away from them with this one thing that I have to input on
this is BlackBerry headside loading apps this runs an entire Android operating
system and it's switching is fast as far as I've heard even an Android phone
though okay like a a poorly supported
Android device there will be apps all over the play store that don't work
right with it this is a thing that exists now never mind if you plan to
make only what do they plan to make 40,000 of them I think that was
it I don't know that sounds about right 40,000 units is the planned run and they
will cost around $800 and something dollar each uh the first few that got in
got them for $600 yeah it's $830 now uh
one of the other things that seems a little bit crazy to me is what they're
committing right now they're committing um I believe it was a sapphire screen uh
dual 4G so it's like a world 4G phone
they're committing 128 gigs of storage they're committing an um undisclosed
processor 4 and 1 half inch screen all these things except the ship date is
going to be I believe it was April
2014 yeah it I mean I I tend to think
like I I I I personally think this thing's going to be a disaster myself I
if it does end up reaching it I I just don't think that a crowdsourced phone is
what we all need right now I I there have been crappy enough crowdsourced
products that have come out that aren't that aren't nearly as um that aren't
nearly as enthusiastic as trying to develop a phone using crowd money I mean
that's just an incredibly hard thing to do one thing is it it is iCal so they're
a company that's been around for an incredibly large period of time their software done Hardware their software
already works and they're getting other people to do the hardware look at even someone like Samsung they are now the
world's most profitable consumer electronics company above Apple you look
at their first iteration of anything it's terrible their first TVs terrible
their first Optical drives terrible their first phones terrible their first
freaking appliances were terrible all
terrible this is going to be canonical
first attempt at a super premium high-end phone and they're only they're
only spending a maximum of $32 million
on something that I can tell you right now Samsung is spending a lot more than
that an order of magnitude or two more than that yeah well Samsung spends more
money on marketing than the market cap for HTC and Motorola combined any any of
that you you could add up all the Android competitors and Samsung spends
more on marketing alone than their net value so I mean it's this is this is
there's a terrible situation out there right now for Android phone makers who
aren't Samsung in general let alone a new player who wants to come along and
compete in the space HTC they're flat I mean they're they're barely making any
money and they make beautiful Hardware what another I'm going to I'm
just continue battle both of you go ahead um another thing is this again is
not their only phone yes so they are pulling in this is funding to make sure
that they can sell enough of them because if they can't sell enough of
them they're not going to bother release it this isn't the only funding that's
going into this phone they're pulling in funding from other parts of their
company they're a massive company and they always do this one thing that this
phone is doing is closing in ecosystems so you can plug it in and it will Dock
and turn it into a whole Ubunto OS as you plug it into your computer so they
want to bring together an ecosystem they want to do this with all their phones and they're going to pull in funding
from all over the place to help this because if you watch the video they want
this to be their super car basically so that they can trickle down and then
eventually release a phone like this which is no longer a trickle down and then have another one of these so is the
market ready for this yet because CES 2 three years ago I was already watching
superphones being plugged into laptop
shells that turn them into Android os's on a not a laptop shell though plug it
directly into a monitor plug it into whatever you want are we ready yet for a
phone that is more than a phone and will people care I don't know if people will
care but it doesn't matter what I'm trying to say is that they're getting funding from other parts of their
company oh that much is true because they're trying to close up an ecos but my point with Samsung was that it
doesn't matter how much funding they're pulling from whatever part of their company because they're not as big as
Samsung and Samsung's first attempt at anything usually sucks yeah so I'm
saying it might suck unless they're better than Samsung at
Hardware I don't know man I'm pretty sure I I don't remember where I read
this but I'm pretty sure they're pulling in other influences for the hardware
there's no doubt I mean that this is a super ambitious thing I and I don't you
know I don't mind it doesn't bother me like I think anybody out there trying to
to innovate and create something you know is is a is a positive thing it's
going to push the entire the entire uh Market forward but at the same time if I
was a betting man like if you were asking me to invest in it I mean that's
a different that's a completely different story I didn't yep there's no
way I'm investing in a piece of hard that comes out 9 months from now I
didn't I'm I'm I'm excited for it I want to see where it's going I did not buy it
and I looked at it fast enough that I could have bought it at the cheapest
bracket and I didn't so to throw that into the pie I'm excited for the next
time they do this in the video they said that they if this works they want to do
it annually almost okay so if they do this next year and it's super successful
this year then maybe I will because that would be awesome but I want to see it
happen first so moving on to our next uh
crowdsourcing topic uh what happens when
these things fail so the Doom that came
to Atlantic City by the forking path Co this is not an easy update to write the
short version the project is over the game is cancelled and there's a bunch of
angry comments from backers so these are backers only the problem is we weren't
kept in the loop we've been giving false information the problem is that you know
why did we pay for him to move why did we pay for these things why was there
this ambitious goal with you know like a
$35,000 or what why was there this ambitious project that had a $35,000
goal that clearly isn't enough money to do anything and you know maybe this
isn't even the worst case scenario I mean Lou you were talking about
Kickstarter or Indiegogo or crowdfunded projects that maybe they actually make
it to Market but they totally suck how much Faith are you putting into this
stuff um I mean for me I don't put very much
uh you know there's there's I think that a lot of the products that have come out
of it have proven to be less than what people expected and in the case of
probably the largest product to date which was the the uh the watch the
pebble watch they they even did something strange which was move units
to Best Buy prior to fulfilling the people who paid in advance uh there
there are no rules you know when you send your money not guaranteed anything
and you're essentially enabling a group of people who you don't know to go out
and decide how they want to spend that and when they want to deliver something
back to you for that for that investment I mean I think that I think crowdfunding
could really go to the next level when you actually can get a you can actually
invest in a company you can actually get a piece of the action like that that to
me gets a lot more interesting you know when when you can say I really believe
in this to the point where I want to invest in it anywhere else in the real
world when a person makes an investment in a company they expect something back
in terms of equity you don't just expect to be pre-ordering something it it's
amazing how just a little bit of hype can drive people to pay for something
that doesn't exist and may never exist and that's exactly it is right now I've
seen good ideas crowdfunded that didn't
make it because they did not have a slick video or they didn't have a great
presentation or the models showcasing the Prototype were ugly or whatever
other infinite number of reasons that a good idea can fail and I've seen stupid
ideas that are meeting their targets even though like you know I sort of I
sort of hate to call these guys out but it's a it's a phone case that has um
earbuds that like retract into it and
I'm just like it it it beat its Target
and I'm looking at this going like are you freaking serious like it's going to
be the crappiest earbuds in the world we already know this because they don't
know a bloody thing about your buds it's going to be a cell phone case which
shouldn't be worth more than about $4 and they I think they wanted 30 bucks
or 40 bucks for it or something stupid like that yeah I I think I think a lot I
think a lot of people fall in love with with the concept and and when you when
your product becomes a message and not an actual physical product when you boil
a product down just to its just to its advertising components you realize that
that's actually where the magic is like when when when a company tries to
convince you to buy buy something gener generally speaking you know leading up
to that actual purchase is when you're the most excited once you've actually
got it that excitement starts to you know uh you know sort of yeah ex platus
or hopefully if you like the product at plateaus it might even go down if it's
not what you expected but that's what they're doing they're playing off that
initial moment when you think wow that would be cool and they're selling you
something within that moment so it's sort of it's almost in a way like some
new kind of advertising platform where
where they're capitalizing at the point of advertisement instead of waiting for
the production to take place it's The Simpsons monor rail episode all over
again now YouTube slammed it I'm gonna again come from the other side at the
same time the whole thing about Kickstarter if you read anything up
about it and Indiegogo the customer is supposed to read the article a lot of
times they don't a lot of things have been released where they did not do the
research that's the customer's fault and even though it failed that sucks you're
taking a gamble with your money you're playing a game with your money you're
going okay this looks interesting I want it and I want to keep be informed on it
and I want updates on it I want to know everything that's going on about it so you put money down for a segment of
something so you might get something back you might get information only you
might get your name in the game you might get your face in the game you might get whatever say it's a game it
could be something else you need to look into it and make sure read up on the
people read up on the product make sure it's going to work a lot of the times
the only things I I've backed quite a few things on Kickstarter a lot of the
things I will only back them if they're mostly produced already I don't want to
back something if the guy's like yeah I have a cad model of it and like it might
work that's pretty cool I'm going to back something when he's like yeah this
is my prototype it works look boom boom
it's awesome I just need to produce a bunch of them I need money to get into manufacturing that makes a lot more
sense for me when he goes I've talked to these people they've said that they can
manufacture this many units at this price I need this much money to make it
happen that's something I'm going to back right I've only backed one thing so
far Star Citizen that was it and it was only because Chris Roberts has a
longtime tradition of success and he had
a great idea and concept and he had enough footage enough ingame gameplay
that he was releasing and showing that I was confident that it was worth dropping
my money on big name research done by the purchaser all that kind of stuff so
Kickstarter is not bad just don't use it poorly no no no I I I want to be clear
too it might come off like I'm bashing it I absolutely love the idea of it I
think the idea of crowdfunding is fantastic but I think that there's the
potential here that if enough people get screwed it can be that sort of one
rotten apple situation where it can spoil the public perception about the
entire platform so it's important that they make it very clear how you're
supposed to engage with it as an end user because if there's enough press
about about bad things occurring then
some things like this might not H have the same Traction in the future and I
don't want to see that happen because I like the idea of a producer being able
to go and reach directly to the audience without nearly as many middlemen as were
traditionally required tell okay tell me something as a
business owner so I've really liked your your thought about somewhere in between
private investment and going IPO full-blown what about a crowd investment
that's not an investment in the product because that's another one of the things I agree with you 100% that's absolutely
ridiculous I'm not giving my money upfront so that I can have a spot in
line that's that's absurd I mean it's
illegal in the USA to charge actually
this is kind of funny it's illegal in the USA to charge someone's credit card
for a back order before you ship it that's
right yet but can can they not do a pre-authorization on it yes they can do
preauthorization but if I'm giving you my money I want something besides a spot
in line and is that potentially the future of this where if unbox therapy
you know LLC or Linus Media Group Inc
decides to get investment we could crowdfund investment in terms of an
actual ownership in the company um that that is currently
illegal in the United States I don't I don't know about Canada uh but there is
talk that eventually things might might
end up going in that direction but the TR the only the trouble I have there is
that it's kind of like an amplification of the problems we already talked about
where if the end user doesn't do their research and understand what they're
getting involved in it could bring a lot of heat onto the entire platform and and
it could it could end up being fairly destructive so it would need you would
need to have some kind of authentication system to determine if people were a
good fit I think that the the producer would have to look at each person's uh
submission and determine whether or not they wanted to work with that person and
accept even if even if it's a tiny little stake you would have to look at
it and do uh some some quick analysis to determine whether or not you wanted to
accept that uh bid and that's actually a very good
point because that's one of the reasons that Linus Media Group Inc doesn't have
any private investors uh we had offers we had people who wanted to throw some
funding at us at the beginning um in order for to have a stake of the company
and for me it wasn't even a matter of do
I mind giving up a stake because it's other than it being a phenomenal amount
of paperwork it's not really the end of the world I still get to pay myself a
salary so you know I'll be fine um and
it wasn't necessarily a matter of basically the problem was do I want
to work with this person and if you did a crowdfunded type of initiative like
this you're working so many people you have to answer to so many people
y it's kind of yeah I did listen I I did
one before and it was not the most fun experience ever yeah your ultimate uh
ultimate gaming build yeah it's it's
it's it's a it's a really strange way to interact with people you've never
met you know that's that's the bottom line it's
like you know ultimately people I mean
I'm sure you've the whole keyboard Warrior thing thing you know how this works when people have anonymity online
and they're not a face and they're not a person that has to answer you know with
a face attached to it all of a sudden what they're saying and how they're saying it changes
drastically absolutely it's a really good point okay I think I had one more
topic that I really wanted to discuss with Lou here before we uh before we
said thank you very much for for joining us I'm just trying to see if I can find
it here plastic iPhone oh yeah the plastic iPhone so I'm I'm going to go
ahead I'm going to fire this up and I'm going to just let the viewers check out
the video a little bit here if they haven't already
sure so guys this is all considered speculation at this point in oh there's
a pizza ad I used to I used to be able to spin pizzas spin dough I worked at
pizza shop good job hey guys Mike Detroit with the sneak peek of the new
plastic iPhone so this is just the back shell of the phone as you can see
integrates all the chassis components as well so we don't have our battery or the
display or anything like that we just have the chassis components like the EM Shield the frame for the okay that's
that's basically the point the video goes on for about six minutes but uh I I
don't know I don't know how much more there is to say about it than that it's a little bit thicker than an iPhone 5
it's obviously going to be cheaper than an iPhone 5 how how many times has Steve
Jobs spun in his grave at this point in the very short time that he's been pass
pass away my my comment directly on the document was just how pissed would jobs
be because
yeah I I mean well the the 3G was had a
plastic back yes but they moved beyond
that and I don't think jobs ever believed in moving backwards the
original iMac was a plastic CRT after
that did he ever go back to a plastic iMac no yeah I mean plastic is I mean
that's one of my my most major criticisms of the uh of the S4 the S4
the the the texture of the plastic on the S4 is so slimy it's um it just does
it just doesn't have that same sort of feel it doesn't feel like a high quality
material I mean these These are going to be cheap these are going to be the first Apple's first foray into the I suppose
the budget market and have and and their F definitely their first foray into
having multiple devices available in the phone segment so um I think there's
pretty much one reason they did not not there's two reasons I guess there's the
expense so they could sell them cheaper and second they're going to do colors
and they've had incredible success in the past with the iPod lineup going you
know having different colors for a different audience and I don't know I
mean I personally don't care that much about colors but I guess there's
probably a youthful audience out there that might even iPods were anodized
metal later on in the product cycle or later on in the in the product
development and I mean the reason I think they're doing this is pure uh dick
measuring for lack of a better word you
look at Samsung smartphone shipments versus Apple's iPhone shipments for Q2
Samsung sold about double what Apple does is that because they're selling a
bajillion in one S4s okay partially yes yeah they didn't Apple hasn't launched a
new phone yes so Apple hasn't launched a new phone and in addition to that Apple
doesn't have a lowcost volume mover in
order to maintain their dominance with the with theore if they want to
keep having as many downloads as gole play which I don't think has Google
passed them already if not it's very close yeah I'm not sure total number of
downloads that I don't know I think I think that the App Store still has more
yeah I think I think for total of all time I'm pretty sure they're but they
have a they have a Long Head Start and I think they're not that far ahead anymore
last time I looked at it so there's two things here so number one is I think
apple is afraid in that measuring contest that is how many units of phones
are you selling and number two is I think they want to maintain iOS as the
premier development mobile platform for
developers to really be attracted to um
and I wonder if either of those are the right approach because you look at what
brought about the success of os 10 and it wasn't Apple being afraid of having
6% market share they were content to have 6% market share but they did what
they believed was right whether it was right or not is a whole other
conversation but they did what they believed and it looks like that's
turning around now with the iPhone where instead of doing what they believe is
right and what they believe is correct they're doing what investors are
demanding or what you know yaho that
email them are telling them that they think they should do I don't think cook
has the balls they're going for those happy metrics instead of what is really
deep down what they should be going for because of exactly what you just said which I don't necessarily feel like
repeating um but I I think you're right
yeah yeah they've they've been making Mass Market decisions for a while now I
mean you you can look at some of their decisions with the pro lineup I mean
they didn't update the Mac Pro for well ye years now maybe five years that was
terrible you know and and they um you
know they've going been going with more embedded Solutions where systems aren't
as upgradeable as they once were um you know one of the most major consumer
decisions they made was to put their stores in malls where if anybody does
any research on malls you know that like
eight out of 10 people at any given time in a mall are females um I I remember I
remember I'm not trying to be sexist or anything but generally speaking
enthusiasts are males um if you look at your analytics of your channel you know
that but um but anyway yeah it's it's
they've made been making decisions the whole way that have been Mass Market
decisions where they want to reach consumers who they don't care if they
were previously their consumers they're always targeting
uh new users even though their loyalty numbers have traditionally been been
incredible but one of the things just regarding development that Still Remains
to be um that there that where their dominance is is in getting people to pay
for apps yeah because because on the Android side as many downloads as are
going on and as as many developers are focusing in that area you'll see an app
that costs $4 on iOS and the developer has to give it away for free with ads on
on the Android side because the user base has a different mentality regarding
uh you know the the purchasing of an app um the App Store claims to have uh the
largest database of credit cards of any e-commerce site uh next to next to
Amazon so tell me this will a cheap
phone turn that around will it will we
be attracting more cheap skates to the iOS platform who aren't willing to pay
for an app because um it was actually I I was T I was on a message board for for
an app that I absolutely love air video it's awesome it's iOS only because the
developer basically came out and said in this thread uh we don't give any cares
about Android because we're not convinced any of those users will give us any money whereas we have a very
healthy business supporting iOS developing this iOS app that we believe
is the best in the market and it really is it's so much better than anything
else it's smooth it's perfect um and we
are going to stick with that because this is the horse that got us here do
you think that creating a cheapo iPhone
or like a value iPhone will erode that
premium mentality that an that an iOS user has and that willingness to
pay um I mean there's there's obviously
the potential for it but it's hard to imagine that an end user would walk home
with a new iOS device I mean even if that's an iPod Touch for that matter and
not launch into the app store and see what's hot on the charts I mean that's
just the next thing that you do I see kids who have iOS devices and their
parents credit cards are hooked up to them because it's it's a payto playay
type ecosystem you know we've had a lot of problems like that recently there was
there was that Mom who had like a $6,000
charge on a credit yeah because of the in inapp purchases yeah it was a kids
game and they kind of shrouded that they were really purchases to make them like
an adult would be like okay this is a purchase but it was slightly shrouded
and it wasn't big complicated process to buy something so the kids just whatever
yeah yeah and there's like a class action I think on that particular app
against that particular app but yeah it's there you you boot into the iOS
ecosystem and you realize pretty quickly that if you're going to participate in
any meaningful way you need to connect the credit card and that just doesn't
happen when you boot into the Google Play
Store yep you know so whether the device
is cheaper or not if you want to utilize it you you kind of that's just the
approach they've taken all right well that's uh that's a
very interesting take on it and I don't I don't disagree actually I guess we'll
have to see what happens because the reality of it is iPhone 4 has been
available as a value option for Z with
contract at least here in Canada for a while yeah and and they've continued to
sell a ton of them still a great phone I'm you know I
love the HTC1 but I if I had to go back to using my iPhone 4 today I Wouldn't
Die I'd be fine no and yeah and there are there are
certain things that you I mean on both sides on both platforms that each one
does better than the other it's just it's not a very clear argument that
particular one it's what I hate getting into that argument probably more than
any other and I probably run into it more than any other the whole iPhone
versus Android all right well thank you so much
for joining us um do you want to do a quick plug for your channel before you
go oh sure yeah um so I'm available uh
unbox therapy on Twitter or youtube.com/ unbox therapy and yeah I make videos
about consumer products and talk about consumer products and so if you want to
check out more then that's the place to do it or anyone who thinks we're
competitors guys that is uh totally ridiculous we even cover the same
products sometimes but it's a very different style from what we do here
yeah for sure no we're we're all cool I mean um it's really I think it's really
valuable to connect with people of like mind in this in this space just because
it's so new and moving so quickly that um having success depends on it all
right thanks so much Lou I really appreciate you joining us and thank you
very very much for
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that yeah we're going to do a Twitter blitz so guys hit us on Twitter right
now I wanted to jump onto our seemingly
weekly EA news oh I know right poor EA
here let me bring let me bring this this up cuz it's just like it's terrible as
usual it's find it yeah is this is this
the one oh no yeah there we go boom Oh
EA I don't even like the the thing is
everything that we talk about is newsworthy I know it just happens to
always be them so the original Madden programmer wins 11 million in a lawsuit
against EA and the worst part is H EA
this is just the tip of the
iceberg brutal oh
yay so basically he developed Madden for
MS DOS Commodore Apple 2 like a long time ago and has an
agreement with them where they have to pay him royalties for every release on
derivative Works which basically amounts to anything with Madden in the title
yeah and they've been releasing Madden games for well since then yeah so and as
far as I know they haven't ever paid out I don't think they have ever paid out I
I don't know why he waited so long but as of now they owe him a lot of money so
basically the Court's ruling um so hold
on so the $11 million has been awarded for games it looks like prior to
1996 the Court's ruling also gives antick the ability to pursue the same
claims against EA for games released after 199
where revenues exceed $3
billion so maybe that is the answer maybe the trick is find your un employer
who's stupid enough to sign a royalty deal build something for them with a
clause about derivative works I mean honestly the fact that EA signed
anything to do with royalties for derivative works is insane they probably
forgot this was so long ago like so
incredibly long ago they probably just forgot the fact that anyone at EA was
ever stupid enough to sign anything like
royalties for derivative works is just
that's not that surprising oh come on now they made Sim City online
only okay but I mean at least there's a
rationale there I mean maybe the rationale for him was that they didn't
want to pay him very much money um so
they just kind of signed whatever they did I mean some of the best movie deals
have been on ones where the film wasn't expected to do very well so the you know
principal actor says okay well just give me 1% of the revenue and it's like yay
payche yeah yeah so I think he doesn't
have to work anymore at any rate yeah no
although if he developed it for Doss Commodore and Apple
2 he might be around that not working any more range already yeah but now he
gets to not work and sit on a boat sort of
like high class baller yeah with like a
pool full of ladies that are just there because you
know they could hang out there cuz it's a nice
boat all right so let's go oh my gosh 84
new interactions on Twitter and uh let's
go ahead and hit that would you rather buy a 3770k or a
3820 uh I'd probably go 3770k how about
you why 3820 I don't know probably 37 do you
need 64 gigs of RAM no okay uh what are
yours and Slick opinions on The Cooler Master quickfire TK any alternatives at
the same price point that you like so the TK is I believe the uh the sort of
10 keyless one if I recall correctly TK stands for 10 keyless so there is the oh
wait hold on which one's the one that has the arrow keys integrated into the
number pad I don't remember exactly what it's called but I'm pretty sure that one's just the 10 key list oh okay in
that case it's fine it's a Cooler Master mechanical keyboard it's a h i don't
really name of it uh your opinion on the razor
Hammerheads uh I haven't tried them yet mine actually arrived in the mail like
two three days ago so it's much to my embarrassment that I haven't had a
chance to try them yet but I'm extremely stoked to check them out and uh I've
heard that they're quite Bassy so I can already say that I they're probably not
my favorite thing in the world but my
understanding is for for $49.99 they're actually not bad the uh the overview on
a NCH was pretty positive cool do you do
you recommend Cher MX red switches not really some people do like them uh David
fitzpatricks have you ever considered delting a processor I was actually the
first one to ever delit an x6800 extreme Edition so there you go yes I have I
don't really recommend it though and no I haven't because I don't yeah whatever
I haven't used the audio engine A5 Plus speakers unfortunately
that's that's one of the problems especially with audio equipment is like
recommending it before you've tried it is kind of sketchy yeah it's better to
just not I've heard great things about it it's one of those things I've heard
of but Apple equals new EA no nothing
Apple does is as stupid as anything that EA does I don't like apple I would not say
that yeah exactly you know what speaking
of Apple our our story you know what we're going to come back to Twitter
Blitz after cuz I wanted to get into Samsung being the
largest consumer or most profitable consumer electronics company now so
where did that go it's somewhere there
was three of it I think at one point in time did we all oh here it is did we all
put it in the dock yeah so I had to try and clean it up that dock was incredibly
messy actually all right so there you go Yahoo news in the second calendar
quarter of this year Samsung stole Apple's long-standing title with
quarterly profit of 8.3 billion compared to Apple's 6.9
billion so that that is news and that's
fascinating so 71 million units of smartphones compared to Apple's 31
million but what I want to launch into
with this is are we really going to start calling Apple a new EA when
they're making 6.9 billion in a
quarter I mean this is is where that mentality that if a business isn't
growing exponentially you know like that uh that curve or that or that hockey
stick if a business isn't doing that then it's a failure apple is not a
failure yet they are a long way away
from being a failure they made $6.9 billion dollar selling half as many
units of smartphones as Samsung their business is extremely profitable and
extremely lucrative and they have cash cash cash to develop whatever New
Concept as long as someone shows up over there with the vision to make it happen
that they want to and like it's going to take so long to for them to fall if they
do fall like it will take an incredibly long amount of time because their
coffers are huge they have so much money
it's insane and they still will have a cult likee following of people somewhere
that will continue to buy their products so they will continue to exist even if
they're much smaller and much more Niche remember they've done this before y
they've become Niche and by becoming Niche they have blown up yes because
that happens sometimes as you'll see they become Niche and then all the professional people start using them and
then they blow up they could do that again and if at some point they figure out how to appease their professional
users again that would be a very so Tim Cook if you're watching right now
appease your professional users because they advocate for you they're dropping
off uh like I mentioned last week Freddy Wong released a big thing about how he's moving to PC well final final Cut's a
disaster now people are moving over to Adobe and Premier ain't perfect but
final Cut's a total disaster and Adobe has figured out how to get people to pay
for Creative Cloud holy crap we're
paying for Creative Cloud they've kind of gone okay let's tie together enough
value ad Services we are going to make
this a package in much the same way that
office revolutionized word processing and you know power point and Excel see
you hardly I can hardly even remember what those programs are called if I
don't call them word excel and PowerPoint anymore but that is what it
looks like adobe's doing with this Suite of products that's going to be getting
more and more tightly integrated with every generational Improvement so come
on Apple sort of rooting for you here sort of I'm not but they can still do it
um are am I using Chrome remote desktop on your laptop no I'm not I'm using an
HDMI capture device but that would be a phenomenally cool way of doing
this uh about YouTube Subs I couldn't even find that twitch was running until
I actually checked the web page can one of you explain what a
gaming keys are used
for I3 plus 650 TI or I5 with 6509 TI
I'd go I3 with 650 TI what about you depends on his use case but yeah
probably what monitors do you each use I'm using some ancient Ben Q thing but I
have two ASUS pb278 so 27 in 2560 by
1440s inbound I have pa48 Q's so we both
use auss um IPS panels I really although
at that same point in time if you're going for a cheaper IPS panel LG makes a
lot of really good IPS panels that are cheap Acer has some really nice IPS
Cheapo monitors these days so just like just because we use ASUS monitors
doesn't mean that's all you should go for with the Xbox One and PS4 both being
AMD based do you think there will be more games optimized for an AMD based
system no um is Haswell good enough for PC gaming
yes 300 a.m. watching The W show all
right I saw that EA article knew you guys were going to mention it
e love it would a 660 be good for 1080p
gaming it would be okay I wouldn't expect it to last a real long time
especially with new consoles launching they're so cheap now though have you seen the price drops on them people are
getting them for like incredibly low amounts of money all right 7970 Matrix
edition versus gtx780 GTX 780 tasty PC
has actually declined I haven't reached out to Corsair George yet but that's a
great idea and I really want to do that and JJ will be joining us next week yep
Corsair George is a great idea that's a great idea I really like George he's
awesome I love the new format of the live stream seems much more professional
and fluid except for that bit where we couldn't get Lou's uh mic going thanks
to Windows automatically adjusting the S yeah I was like people can hear him but
he's low I know that's bizarre right yeah I know that's a thing that happens
I just never really thought about the process because it's lowering xits
volume which shouldn't really yeah do you have Maximus six formula in the mail
not yet although I should probably bug JJ about it because I'm really excited about bu about it all in the live stream
so he has all that pressure yeah so he has no choice but to send us a Maximus 6
formula uh those won't fit in my case
okay then get something else NHD 14 or
Silver Arrow what are some cool things I can fill my PCI slots with sound card
yeah get a sound card you can still get a lot of PCI sound cards you can get a
zoner sdx PCI you know what there's not
much to put in an expansion slot these days I have a sound card and a raid Card
Sound raid video Yeah USB expansion ah yes so this is for
the system for Mr Wizard one of our administrators on the Linus Tech tips
Forum um we uh we arranged for him to
get a six Core Extreme Edition 980x system the one problem with that system
is didn't have an internal usb3 header to run to the usb3 front panel Port so
we picked up this Silverstone card what was it 30 bucks it it was like I think
20 or 25 but then with shipping and taxes and everything it became p e Gen 2
it's good should be able to get full bandwidth no it's like it's a nice card
silverstone's that company that just doesn't get enough credit for the cool
stuff they do because other companies have made these but one thing I found
about this is is it had everything yeah the had everything and the external
ports yeah and like oh yeah yeah
Silverstone they just I wish they would mark it better it's like what Lou was
saying where at the end of the day this can be the best USB expansion card on
the market and if Silverstone doesn't figure out how to make people desire it
with whether it's a flashy campaign or whatever else no one will ever know yeah
cuz my my computer that I hauled the lands it's an old 775 platform that
still performs fairly well but the case has usb3 on it and it's just a dead Port
because I can't now that I've seen this I'm kind of like oh if I buy one of
those that could really bring some buy one of those and an SSD that could
really breathe life back into that system but you hadn't even heard of the bloody thing up till now NE neither of
us had neither knows like it's cool that
it exists but I'd never actually I'd never needed one so I'd never looked for
one and no one has ever told me anything about it because no one seems to
care okay well we should probably do build of the week because we've been
streaming for an hour and half already over sure so bring it on builds of the
week we've got three this week actually because a certain user on our Forum
keeps on getting in here but I can't leave him out because his builds are too
good so I didn't want to like just have it so every time he build something
someone gets knocked off a build of the week so I threw him in there on the end
not because he isn't deserving but because he's already been in twice okay
so we'll we'll see when we get there so just so you guys know builds of the week
and are in the build log section of the Forum you can check them out there and
in the lonus news and ramblings or whatever section I'm going to post our
entire W show document so you can click any of the links of any of the articles
that we were discussing and all that good stuff so let's switch over here and
boom Arc underwater so this is by fail wheeel Drive I see a lot of people do
green builds but I don't necessarily see a lot of people do green builds that
well this it just looks super sharp he had to do a couple custom cuts I know he
had to do some custom cuts to his OD uh bay fit in radiator yeah so just super
sharp super clean and I love this it's
build like this like I I try and pick the best picture I possibly can but you
guys really need to go to the Forum and check out the thread because he has a
ton of really nice photos and it doesn't justify it to be in one picture right
okay um so so please go check this guy's build out it's awesome that is gorgeous
look at this look at this great pump res combo he's got going on here that makes
it extremely clean you've eliminated a couple of components he's got it uh
right looks like it's bolted to the radiator very nice really really clean
build looks really sharp and he did Green well which really like I know I
already said that but green can look kind of tacky sometimes and I like the
the color that he picked for it and everything now this one I picked an
interesting angle for the picture but you'll notice immediately why I picked
that there's window in the top there's a window in the top there's it the whole
color of the theme is very Dusty interesting so he's gone with a saber to
or rather a a tough series AMD board by
the look of things is that what that is or no as he colored the heat sinks what
is this he's done a lot of stuff he's cut
the back out here on the on the on the uh right side panel he's actually
printed Tomb Raider in big printing which looks really good he went with the
red and black text which I think was actually a good idea because that's how
it is in their logo although it suit the build better if it was all black now
again please go look at this guy's thread because you can get other angles
I had to show that top window cuz that's so cool but if you can actually get in
there in the computer you can see his color theming on everything and it's
awesome look at that he got right to the edge with that top window that's very
unique I've never seen anything quite like that super super cool you know what
probably my favorite modded build is ever also kind of window related someone
did uh do you remember the p12 SE
that mirror finish antech case someone
got a a two-way mirror and did a a side
panel window on it that if the lights inside were off was a mirror and when he
turned on the lights inside you could see all the internal components it was for sale on like Red Flag deals or
something and I was like going to buy it
has a case like that now it's like 700 bucks though oh wow now SNF this is the
guy who's been here a few times wow his builds are always amazing I
can't leave the mod of build doogs of the week but then I don't really want them to take over other people's chances
again tons of different angles i p I chose this one because it shows the
intricate intricacy of his tubing
because that's insane wow that is just
unbelievable the planning that goes into this nice straight runs always look so
much better than curved runs it's just the
truth and like he he
he made a custom label for his SSD and a custom label for his power supply that
both go with the purple Chimera theme
wow super nice yeah that's outstanding I
I've heard through multiple channels that he had to sell this one which is
unfortunate but I mean and like the graphics card looks super nice you got
but you got to see it from the other side so definitely again check out this
thread on the Forum and yeah build doogs week this
week pretty freaking cool yeah that was
uh that was quite the Run of awesome build logs this week all right guys I
think that pretty much wraps it up thank
you for tuning in to the L show this week guys uh stay tuned for the
Afterparty although it might be a bit of a shorter version of the Afterparty
and is that it thanks for watching yeah
hopefully I didn't embarrass myself too badly with that story at the beginning
do we have to do a outro
TR all right