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actually don't like Coca-Cola it's not very good do you do you like Pepsi more

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or you just don't like Co neither do I yeah it's just terrible is weird

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although it's better than the noname stuff uh safe waves house brand simply

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soda I remember this one time I drank one can of it this is when I was like 9

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or 10 I drank one can of it before I

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left and that stuff made me have to pee

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like nothing else I've ever experienced in my life so I'm driving down from

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Whistler yeah we get stuck in traffic on the Sea to Sky Highway sounds about

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right I peed myself in the car not once

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not twice but three times how old are you I was well there

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was nothing I could do there was a cliff on one side there was bumper-to-bumper

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traffic piss out the door before I pissed myself hours and hours to hours

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and hours to get down I was like Dad what do I do and is like I don't know

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just whatever I hold on to the roof lean out

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convertible there's like so stand up so yeah I I I don't hold a bag on each side

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or skis on each side I don't know about that you know what would love to hear

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your guys' feedback whether it's in the twitch chat or whether it's on Twitter

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would you rather embarrass yourself by peeing on the seat or embarrass yourself

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by standing out in front of the stopped by the way traffic completely stopped

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traffic like put blockers up like people stopped and like having like tailgate

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barbecues on their trucks with their propane because we're not moving so do

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you just pee there wh which option is better for you um totally totally open

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to feedback here I I was I was too embarrassed to get out of the car

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fortunately or unfortunately the seats were leather so at least it was going to

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come out but yeah it was uh it was one of those experiences you have in life

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that uh is unfortunate was I was I was

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not expecting that start to the W show actually no no I uh I I have never told

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you that story in fact I haven't told that story many times in general it's uh

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not one of those stories that I'm particularly proud of so we've got a

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great show for you guys we have special guest Lou from unbox therapy we've got

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um this guy I do things this guy we've

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got a bunch of great topics including the uh the first reviews are out of

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ASUS's 4k monitor which is extremely exciting as you guys know I'm all about

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the 4K and leaks of Dell's possible 4K

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yeah wow leaks of Dell's possible 4K

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honestly from what I've seen it looks like the only SSD that actually I should

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give any cares about anymore it's uh looks unbelievable as well as slicks

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expert uh you know correspondent analysis

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of what Microsoft could do to save Windows 9 to actually appeal to every

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customer have you read it I have read it it's actually pretty okay I don't

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disagree with you yeah and that's pretty good for me and him uh oh yeah my

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Watermark where's my Watermark uh don't worry we're going to

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run the intro we just finished doing the intro Diesel's afraid that I'll forget

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to run his awesome intro that we hardcore love long time and boom qu

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it I missed it gonna try that one more time

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all right so there is the intro someone

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says they hate it someone says best intro of all time so we're going to go

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ahead and call that it's all right 50%

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of the time all the time yeah

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guys remember as always the W show is brought to you by Razer comms the voice

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chat client that is actually optimized for gaming and isn't Skype but also does

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doesn't require you to set up a dedicated server or any of the issues that you might have with some of the

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other ones that are out there we actually had a lot of people criticizing

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our video about why we decided on Razer comms saying that you know uh this one's

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Superior or that one's Superior there's another one that's Superior uh the

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reality of it is comms is in beta um I have used other voice clients for anyone

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saying ventrillo was Superior wow go away because no it isn't uh Mumble on

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the other hand is outstanding the only issue with mumble is that when I used to

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use it for my I I would say Tuesday night gaming sessions but it was more

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like every night at that point in my life uh for for gaming sessions uh there

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were some issues with um with secure channels and with the authentication

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keys and you had to get like there you

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could only have like that edmin you know

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get you in and the sort of invites were weird and rooms were weird voice quality

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is outstanding yeah dedicated server all that kind of stuff um one thing like uh

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other voice communication programs all most of them have at least one thing

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that separates them like TeamSpeak a lot of people like team speak one thing that a lot of people might not know about

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team speak even the people that like it is that you can integrate it with things

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like ARMA and set up hotkeys in game which will talk over certain radio

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channels so you can go in like close burst within the game or like go over a

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certain Channel even though you're in a CH in the Channel with everyone and like

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it's a lot of different things have cool functionality we're just trying to show

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way of going about being a voice so use that bitly link guys remember that helps

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us out a great deal if you're going to download Razer comms and try it or you're going to get your friends to

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download and try it please do use that link as I said before it helps us out a

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great deal so I would like to go to the Twitter boards that's what I'm going to

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call them from now on the twitters or I want to see what people think I would

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pee on another person's car looking straight in their eyes not losing eye

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I'd rather let it go out the window own your body man and then Brian seems to be

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unrelated you're going to make me get Instagram aren't you um I am going to

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continue using Instagram so so that's kind of a thing and for some reason I'm

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huh there you go there's two watching

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from Texas love the wo guys what should

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I get two GTX wow that went fast all of a sudden 2 GTX 7 60s are 1780 also tell

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slick I love his little beard I don't think that's an intentional beard is it

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what do you mean the your beard it's an intentional beard it's an intentional

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beard I shave this part oh okay well um

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and have to take it off you're not allowed to have a beard As A Firefighter

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well it will your skin won't make contact with a mask as well ah okay okay

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it it makes sense cuz you need it to be able to stick against your skin and like

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we figured out with the ninja mask my hair pokes through things and stuff

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gotcha all right saurin asks for headphones in the $200 to $250 range

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you're really happy with your custom one Pros right yeah they're awesome and they often go on sale around that range hard

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to say no to that play Modern games on Afterparty we'll see if we can even figure out playing games on the

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Afterparty should I buy a 7950 now or wait for new AMD cards no idea uh we

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don't know uh h100i intake or exhaust on

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Phantom 410 mounted in the top all other intake go ahead and use it as an exhaust

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ducky shine three up for pre-order ordering mine tomorrow only certain

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places have them for pre-order and a lot of places that have them oh wait this is

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shine 3 yeah I know he should be fine I was thinking snake a lot of them are

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sold out all right going to upgrade to 4770k is there any motherboard you'd

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$300 honestly for $300 you can buy

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pretty much whatever you want and we have a very exciting video coming soon

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where we are going to take two z70 uh Z87 boards uh would you remember which

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two they are it's a uh I don't remember the exact model name but it's a Gigabyte

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so we uh we overclock them both we run some benchmarks we find out actually in

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actually make uh versus I mean there's always the features that are added by

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better board so example for example the Maximus 6 formula has much better

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onboard audio which can save you buying a sound card with that said I've always

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believed that buying a very high quality sound card because of the way audio

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equipment doesn't really change much over time uh a good quality sound card

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something like that um still a good

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sound card if you can find a PCI slot to put it in so I recommend rather than

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investing in a better board that has better sound you grab a great sound card

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Aesthetics matter yeah true that all right so unbox therapy has uh

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has tweeted that he's going to be joining us

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soon that's very very exciting he's a really great guy we've actually met in

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person in the past and uh enjoyed some

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uh pretty actually it was some pretty suspect like barbecue make it-yourself

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food that uh yeah we were hanging out with Logan as well so there's some

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pictures from that trip but uh it was it was pretty great actually so let's do

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our first topic of the day shall we sure

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what do you want to what do you want to hit him with first why don't we talk PQ

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321 sure sure all right so anante has one of the first

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reviews out there of the PQ 321 Q Ultra

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HD monitor living with a 31 1/2 in 4k

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desktop display so guys I do highly

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recommend taking a complete sort of you know it probably only take you about 15

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minutes 20 minutes long read through the review because they touch on some really

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interesting points about this for those of you who don't know one of the first

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4K desktop monitors that is actually intended to be hooked up to a computer

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yeah what's your take on this I read through the review yeah and the first

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thing that I noticed was he said the color gamut wasn't exactly where he hoped it would be it was almost 100% of

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srgb if I recall correctly but some of it was in the wrong yeah wrong spots so

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so it's exciting because they're getting these lower size 4K resolutions and one

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thing that he said is a he kind of expected um it to not be that big of a

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difference because it's so close to him yeah but that he instantly noticed that

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it was so much sharper yes I mean I could have told there I think Chris

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Chris is the reviewer over there that that did this particular write up and I

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could have told him a 4k monitor was going to make a very very big difference

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but for me to invest $3,500 I mean I had

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talked about you know maybe I want to go 4K but the reality of it is is there's a

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couple reasons why I'm not ready would I be willing to sell my bike and drop all

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of that money that I get back for it on a monitor potentially yes especially

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then mind you I'm back on my bike for this season and I'm kind of questioning

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how I could have ever been crazy enough to think about that but I was going to

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say now that it's summertime you're actually riding it that's

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yeah but the the flip side of that or

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the but the the other hand of that discussion is yeah it's it's expensive

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would I be willing to drop the money maybe but there's still some problems y

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so the display standards aren't really ready yet for

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the most part HDMI is not going to be ready until HDMI 2.0 when we're going to

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be able to drive 4K at 60 HZ off of a single interface when I was talking to

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the ASUS guys that were at Lan couver uh

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they were saying that part of the reason that they didn't have games running on

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the one that was there was that they needed some driver hookum hookum

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whatever word you want to use for it in order to have the two display

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interfaces work correctly as a as as as

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teaming together to drive a single panel so that to me is a big concern as well

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is what happens to this weird Nish product that ASUS sells however many

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but I'm also not going to say 10,000 in North America anyway and that's the

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danger is what happens to weird nich products that lead the charge on some

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kind of a new technology and then ultimately get abandoned look at the x25

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M from Intel of all of all companies and the x2e people invested a ton of money

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into those early gen ssds they never got

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trim they never got proper they never

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the R&D time of fixing it after the fact

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and that's a really good point because it's it's prohibitively expensive yes it

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has its problems yes what I'm excited for is when they get it smaller size cuz

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31 and2 is huge 31 30 in is already like

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I I used 30in for quite a while and I got used to it but then what happened

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was I recently switched back to 24 and even though it was noticeable I don't

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really miss that huge I miss the resolution yeah love to have the

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resolution back but exactly I'm excited

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for 24 in I'm excited to buy two 24in 4K

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monitors that are affordable what do you consider affordable I don't know would

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you spend 750 each no cuz it's going to be a long time

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before they're going to be less than that yes but I'm very happy with my current monitors true true that and I'm

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totally fine with waiting so it's you

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had really really good points it's interesting buying in on technology like this I think I've done it once I bought

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a Nia okay it wasn't it wasn't super expensive it was fun though okay so it

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would it was fundamentally broken yes it was terrible but it was fun okay I

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enjoyed messing around with it I got my money out of it I was happy it got abandoned that's fine okay whereas and

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I'm not saying that this monitor is not going to work 3 years from now it will

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and DisplayPort is a much better solution than you know dual HDMI in but

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there's all those early growing paines I mean early 2560 X 1600 monitors none of

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them had onscreen displays because the processing chips required to um none of

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them had scalers so the because the processing required to do all this stuff

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was just Out Of Reach so you just had to drive it natively um and so the onscreen

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display ain't great on this thing but one thing that's cool about the uh about

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the PQ 321 Q is that the input leg isn't

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bad yeah that's outstanding it's about the same as the pb278 which I have two

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of them incoming when they finally get in stock at the place I've ordered them

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um and I've gamed on that monitor not bad it's not a CRT but it's not bad so

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uh that I find really exciting how close we are from that perspective but uh yeah

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lot of money it's a lot of money it's a lot of money I saw actually it's not in

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the uh it's not in our show do but I saw someone was running three of the sharp

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12K display essentially just absurd

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unbelievable he had them on loan so it's like $10,000 worth of displays right um

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that's the other thing that I'm really waiting for with 4K is more competition

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you look what happened with TVs with Seiko just kind of Marching In and being

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like yo guys this doesn't cost that much not a great TV but still in fact the

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reviews are terrible yeah they're basically saying don't bother just go

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get a 1080 PTV but um but I'm waiting for someone other

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than freaking sharp to have something other than a 32in panel I mean that's a

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professional geared product in the first place well the the the Dell leaks are

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pretty much just product numbers as I tell sure it's in here somewhere as far

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as I could tell what the Del leak is that they're basically just product numbers but one thing that I saw was I

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think it was like 2414 and it seemed like they all all the

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4K ones ended in 14 so that got me excited because 24 in I'm assuming the

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first two numbers are inch so 24 in uh

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4k monitor which is what I'm super excited for I'm sure it's going to be way too expensive but that's that's the

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size that I'm excited for with that said Dell's been reasonably reasonable about

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some stuff so this was submitted on the Linus Tech tips Forum by snow Comet so

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uh it was a leak in the Soundbar manual

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because their Soundbar I don't know if you're familiar with it is usually uh

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cross compatible with multiple Dell monitors so here are the leaked models

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the up 320 3 3214 Q so that is in all

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likelihood of 4K 32 in using the same EXO panel as everyone else that's

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that's going to help a lot the up 2414 Q

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the U24 14h and then

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u3415w so Q might be 4K or whatever else

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fascinating I I I still have oh oh just

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an FYI guys this IP is not the IP of the poster I forgot again to uh log into a

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different account guys if you if you were to watch our streams over sort of a

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longer period of time you'd notice that IPS repeat themselves a fair bit because

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they are the IPS that have to do with the security system for our Forum not to

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do with the actual members of our Forum so there you go just throwing that out

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there let's go ahead and uh move on to

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our next topic shall we NVIDIA has a new Quadro video card so they just recently

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unveiled so this was submitted by ich chondo the quadro k6000 GPU so this is

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based on a Titan GK 110 core it has 12

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gigs we'll let that sink in for a

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moment 12 gigs of gddr5 memory and uh

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that makes it pretty much when it comes to 3D rendering uh animation simulation

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applications pretty much the fastest

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possible GPU that can exist right now um

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now we'll talk about that a little bit so there's a couple of really great

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great quotes uh from pix so this is their uh uh vice president of software

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R&D the Kepler features are key to our next Generation real-time lighting and

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geometry handling if you guys have seen Monsters U yet you may have noticed that

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there's a completely different look to that film compared to previous Pixar

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films because instead of manually um

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programming lighting they're actually having the lighting Just Bounce Around

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the way that it normally would making it much more natural looking so we were

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thrilled to get an early look at the k6000 the added memory and other

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features allows artist to see much more of the final scene in realtime

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interactive form and allows many more artistic

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iterations um and then uh niss is saying

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that they can view they can pull up almost an entire car in like realistic

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life lifelike realism to you know look

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at things and Tinker with it and all that kind of stuff and then they have

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another one from Apache um that combined

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with Leap Motion could be really cool oh yeah I know right Compu are computers

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are changing um so yeah Apachi is energy

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for energy exp exploration they're saying Drilling in the wrong place can be a multi-million dollar mistake and

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the k6000 gives the edge to make better

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decisions wow that's a little bit blunt

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yeah it's like yeah we needed this power

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otherwise yeah all the dollars just byebye so in addition to all of

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that I would like to settle once and for

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all that just because a graphics card

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costs $5,000 versus something like a

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Titan that costs $1,000 and is actually built on the same architecture that has

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nothing to do with gaming

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performance these cards are not gaming

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cards they use workstation grade memory

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for example because you can't afford to make a mistake they have the full

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capability of their double Precision calculations that they need to do they

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have software features that are not enabled on desktop Parts they are bended

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to a higher degree of quality they are expected to last longer run under lower

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thermal EnV run inside lower thermal envelopes for example the quadro and

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Diesel's workstation on the desktop side

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or for the for the graphics side the GeForce side was a dual slot cooler his

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is a single slot cooler because it's a better Bend part and they were able to

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achieve that with that particular card so guys I'm so tired of seeing uh Builds

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on PC part picker that are like yeah I did an ultimate build I put in four

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quadrant no you didn't because that's not for gaming so there you go uh why

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don't we do a quick Twitter Blitz and uh I'll I'll do this blitz while you get

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Lou on the line sure sure do you have the snowball set up oh yep oh oh oh um

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oh I'll figure it out here sweet all

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right all right cool actually uh I've got I've got comms I've got comms up

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here is uh yeah yeah L he's in the channel already l in the channel already

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so we should be ready to go pretty quick after this Twitter Blitz here guys here

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we go I have an i5 3450 I want to

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upgrade an m a designer I use Photoshop and Maya any suggestions um you know

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what you're going to get a bit of a performance increase especially if you go for something like a K series

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processor a 4670k and overclock it or even a 4770k because you will be able to

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take advantage of hyper reading with that said if um if your workloads

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perform well on an AMD pile driver chip something like an 8350 is a great value

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but um you know what I guess what I'd probably do is 3770k for you because you

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don't have to change your board and um

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and you're going to get you're going to be able to take advantage of hyperthreading as well as potentially

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overclocking that CPU can you run games in multim monitor

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across um oh okay yeah unbox therapy is

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ready to go but we're not quite ready for for just yet so uh I'm going to

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finish this blitz there you go uh you guys really need to look at the camera

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more rather than talking just to yourselves thank you Muhammad for the feedback um there's only so much we can

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do someone asks Afterparty yes there will be an Afterparty I made a video

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about the ASUS 4k display they used a the ifinity for merging two halves of

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the display oh PC per made a video about it cool going live in about 10 minutes

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come say hi Oh thanks for tweeting that Lou um you know what let's go back and

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let's see what some of the oh the Apple TV got moved any air water coolers that

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would be good for overclocking at 3570k something like an h100i would be a great

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choice yeah yeah on the air cooling side

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um I love the Silver Arrow NH

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hd4 these are all high-end Solutions you can also pick up a hyper 212 plus like

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like the masses uh 12K setup how will the GPU keep up with this it'll be quite

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difficult we need more GPU power apparently we're on the front page of

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twitch that's outstanding that's awesome should I get you should get neither of

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those things they are both wastes of money just outright wastes of money oh

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you you know what we should do a video on like just how utterly asinine it is

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to buy a low-end graphics card we'd have to get one we'll just buy it they only

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cost like $20 so who cares really I've never even looked I know no I've

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actually never looked at the price of like like the price to Performance ratio

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of these cards is just broken it's just horrible don't even bother slick have

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you played Skyrim legendary Edition yep and have you gotten into Clos beta even

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if I that would be under NDA even if I was

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I farted on the laptop and a little bit of smoke came out of it okay all right

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so let's go ahead and have Lou join us then at this point because apparently

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things have gotten a little bit silly so I'm going to go ahead and add a media

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file where we have a oh diesel didn't

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put it in the this folder but it's okay because cuz I got this i got this i got

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this L unbox therapy bam there's a

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portrait there's the guy who will be joining us right

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about now hey Lou how are you he will be

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connected in a second he'll be connected in a second yep oh all right he's got to

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turn on his mic so Lou apologizes in advance for his microphone it's

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apparently not that great I haven't heard it yet but not that B it's not

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terrible but L you're going to want to mute the

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stream over there how about now how about now am I

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there yet you are

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here you guys all right there we

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go jumping down sorry hello hello hello

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you are live

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yeah we can turn him up a little bit I

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think all right so you are our very

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second special guest and uh we are extremely excited to have you join us do

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you want to take just a brief moment and uh sort of introduce yourself to the

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audience those of you who AR familiar can't hear you um let me see there's

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something going on here he can't hear us apparently oh okay okay well in that

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case he you guys I'll say a little bit

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about what uh oh hold on I wonder if it's our fault

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still pretty quiet I can't hear

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anything just using this just using it

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okay yeah and it shows if it shows a light there it means it's picking up

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hear you guys I don't know if you can hear me or not uh oh hold on let's uh

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let's hit him on the chat should I try and jump out and jump back I got it I

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got it you can hear me but I can't hear you

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yeah I think our audience can hear

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you okay Lou's going to try reconnecting so I'm going to give you guys a little

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bit of a brief history of unbox therapy

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so unbox therapy is a channel that as you may or may not have deduced at this

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point is centered around the concept of

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unboxing as a way to clearly demonstrate

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a product and to really give people that hands-on experience yeah you can hear me

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but um when we tested it earlier I heard

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you uh loud and clear now nothing I could just see the

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chat

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mhm okay well here we

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go wait what's that this is also your

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okay so if you close that one is it possible that'll address it I guess it's

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possible it shouldn't really but okay I'm going to turn it off and start it

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again Lou can you hear me

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oh

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boy well we're having one of those moments here

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guys we are going to try no I just checked that we did test this before the

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show so uh it worked totally fine worked 100%

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correctly I don't think I don't think it's my end only because I didn't change

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anything I literally let this thing sit here prior to uh the stream and I was

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talking earlier when we did the test run all right I think I don't know why I

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can't hear you guys though okay we're going to relaunch

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comms and we'll be back in just tight and leave it the way it

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is okay there we go let's try this one more time so I've had a bit of a monkey

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wrench thrown in my whole introduction of Lou

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oh monkey wrenches love Mony wrenches

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it's hard to do a topic in the meantime if we're trying to get audio running

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here uh that is a good point although I can do a other random topic sure go for

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it give me one quick second to jump onto something

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here that was a community item so I'm going to have to find something that

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isn't because I can't link to the screen that's going to be interesting uh

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there's a case starter project that got destroyed basically oo I wanted to talk

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about this with Lou okay

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okay oh I got you

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now I I was a little bit worried there for a minute but the wonders of

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Technology oh wow um yeah a little bit

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of background I I guess I I think I started by accident um I I just uh

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wanted to make the same kind of videos I guess that oh is am I too

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quiet who's

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quiet oh my

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God I can hear you guys I can hear you guys perfectly but I don't think anybody

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can hear anyone

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else who oh boy okay can the stream hear

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us now everyone said they can just hear Lou

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and apparently Lou broke the uh the entire internet so um hold on a second

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let's go ahead and try try something

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here oh boy you got to tell him to come over

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oh it's Windows oh my God hey okay this doesn't

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work now are we good no I don't think so

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oh yes we're good boom it was Windows

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blaming me well could have been your fault just as easily as anything else it

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was all right so Lou tell us about unbo

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therapy tell us how you got started on this stuff and hopefully they can

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actually hear you this time right I I see some comments saying Lou Lou is fine

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so I guess they can hear me um we're good now what's up everybody thank you

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for having me on uh the show today first of all I want to get that out of the way

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and uh yeah to answer your question I've been doing this for about two and a half

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years I think and uh in the beginning it

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was pretty it was Amateur hour and we've

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sort of slowly improved improved the

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operation uh and and added a little bit of production value and had had a couple

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of different people working on it and uh I guess our approach since since the

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beginning was to sort of add some cinematic value to the process of making

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Tech videos or making product based videos so when did you feel like it

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really exploded for you I mean I know that already because I've been keeping a

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very close eye on you since you had around oneth the number of subscribers

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you have now by the way congratulations you broke 500,000 I believe

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today uh yeah I think yeah either today or yesterday um yeah pretty crazy just a

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lot of people but um yeah I think uh for

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me it probably picked up somewhere I want to say like maybe a year and a half

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in or something like that where I realized that this was a real thing that

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people were doing professionally and I guess I I I started

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to put a different level of focus onto it and to be honest with you like I I

446
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,240
mean I love doing it at this point in time I really couldn't imagine you know

447
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:07,399
having a regular day job or something like that this is uh it really I mean it

448
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:13,599
gets cliche because a lot of people say it but it's it's one of the best things to do as as you

449
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:16,079
know I I really do we're uh we're both

450
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:21,200
in very unique positions where where we have these huge established audiences

451
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:26,280
and it gives the flexibility to try things and to experiment and to start to

452
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:30,079
have some fun with it now I wanted to talk to you about this before we really

453
00:34:27,879 --> 00:34:35,440
dive into some of our regular W show topics I get asked this all the time and

454
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:41,960
I have my sort of standard response that I usually say but people ask me how do I

455
00:34:38,839 --> 00:34:45,879
get started on this

456
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,560
right yeah I know it's uh you could have

457
00:34:45,879 --> 00:34:51,320
you could have an inbox full of those question on a daily basis and I was on

458
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:56,720
actually on a broadcast yesterday and we sort of covered a similar topic because

459
00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:00,880
uh you know honestly when I started out I didn't I ever I don't think I reached

460
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,839
out to anyone with that particular question and part of that had to do I

461
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:10,520
guess part of that had to do with me making some assumptions maybe some

462
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:14,440
educated assumptions that that this having having success in this particular

463
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:19,079
arena being such a new one was going to require some Ingenuity and some trial

464
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:23,440
and error and all of those things and so when people ask me for a set of

465
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:27,400
guidelines I mean there are way too many variables that play for me to give you a

466
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:31,359
Playbook on how to get viewers on YouTube YouTube or how to have success

467
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:35,359
or how to add subscribers because at the end of the day you're making a piece of

468
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:39,440
entertainment and what people find entertaining or what people are drawn

469
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:43,040
towards is relatively subjective how do you know before getting into it whether

470
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,960
or not you're entertaining or whether or not people give a [ __ ] about what you're

471
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:52,359
saying I mean you just don't know until you try absolutely I think that's a very

472
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:57,079
good point and the the the the funny thing about that is that was one of the

473
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:02,599
things that made me notice you and what you were doing because up until then as

474
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:10,119
far as Tech unboxings went there was only a maybe a handful of guys who were

475
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,040
my size or bigger or even close and what

476
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:16,000
I noticed about the approach that you had was it was completely different from

477
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,520
what anyone else was doing where you were taking on boxing and you were

478
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:24,520
putting your own spin on it and I think a lot of people I mean a lot of people

479
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:28,280
send me their gameplay videos or their uh let's plays hey lonus can you check

480
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:34,640
this out and give me your feedback and I kind of look at it and I go well what have you done that's different and I

481
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:39,079
think that might be the solution right I mean it's never it's never a bad idea to

482
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:43,240
innovate uh you know you can't go the other way where you try so hard to do

483
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:49,480
something unusual and it could be terrible too so I mean I mean it it it

484
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:53,560
really requires some attention to detail and some attention to uh the reaction of

485
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:57,000
your viewers I mean you do have to listen you do need to pay attention if

486
00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:01,480
you can't answer every single comment or engage with every single user you can at

487
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:05,319
least read through some stuff and and and sort of get an idea of what's

488
00:37:02,839 --> 00:37:08,240
working and what isn't working and and that really helps you to edit yourself

489
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,480
because that's what that's one of the most difficult things to do uh in this

490
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,440
business when you're working in relatively small companies or even by

491
00:37:14,359 --> 00:37:20,000
yourself in the beginning is how do you how do you determine what to leave in

492
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:23,960
and what to take out it's very difficult when when it's only yourself working on

493
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,520
it absolutely and you know what I think this leads into one of our discussion

494
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:33,280
topics really well small inter interaction versus big interaction so

495
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:40,040
things like Twitter Vine Instagram versus Facebook go+ YouTube how do you

496
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,599
how do you feel that these things complement each other or compete with

497
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:48,720
each other you know um this is a this is a

498
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:53,480
pretty interesting topic to me like I I'm I have a a pretty significant level

499
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:57,920
of interest at least I think so in in social media and how it all uh affects

500
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:02,319
my business I mean I guess the same could be said for a lot of other businesses but mine in particular I

501
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,000
think I think you could you can really notice a huge increase in your traction

502
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:10,720
if if you can get a grip and get a handle on social media um especially

503
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:16,359
with with when we get into another topic that we're going to talk about today regarding the subboxes on YouTube but um

504
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:22,760
but but but before we get there it's like yeah um Facebook I recently I recently

505
00:38:20,319 --> 00:38:28,000
switched my P my regular human profile to one of what they call a brand page

506
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:32,640
and uh after doing that I noticed a couple of things that occurred first of

507
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:35,240
all I was reaching fewer people but uh

508
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,040
as a as a side effect of that it meant that some things were modified in my

509
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,280
account where I wasn't getting the same number of personal interactions in my

510
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:46,839
inbox because for for somebody who gets a lot of communication in inbox whether

511
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:51,319
it be on YouTube or Facebook is an incredibly terrible place to communicate

512
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:56,319
um because horrible because what ends up happening is that you end up

513
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,839
communicating with one individual with your answer nothing is public and as a

514
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:05,599
result you end up answering the same thing a hundred different times and when

515
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:08,040
you're when you're when you become uh

516
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:12,560
you know a glorified uh Administration person you can't be making videos it's

517
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:16,359
impossible to to handle both so I much prefer Twitter from that standpoint

518
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:21,760
because the conversations are generally public and mostly public and they're

519
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,680
short and so short when you have social

520
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:28,960
interaction on a format like Twitter uh essentially the the comments become or

521
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:33,240
the the at messages become like headlines like in a newspaper and when

522
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,960
you scan a newspaper you can easily sort through what is the relevant information

523
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,480
what do I need to get back to um you can triage the news essentially and your and

524
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:46,480
and the communication that your audience has with you becomes news uh versus this

525
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:51,800
little thing off in private somewhere in an inbox that H that is very difficult

526
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:55,800
to triage very difficult to quickly look at an inbox and say this is important

527
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,960
this is not important and and where where can I start to work I mean I

528
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:04,000
basically avoid inboxes at all costs now uh Twitter Twitter is probably your best

529
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,599
chance to get in touch with me and to get a response because at least I know

530
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:12,160
if I respond to you other people can then go look at that response if they

531
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:15,599
have the same question absolutely and I mean I think uh one of the strengths of

532
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:20,160
Twitter leading into our next discussion topic which is why is the YouTube

533
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:25,200
subscription feed always broken yeah um I have heard I have heard

534
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:29,000
some people some other YouTubers that I communicate with that have had contact

535
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:34,680
with Google Google themselves and I have heard that it is intentionally broken um

536
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,920
and and and the theory behind that is similar to what's happening on Facebook

537
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:43,040
right now which is that people are inundated with content that the power

538
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,839
users are subscribed to so many channels that uh it becomes difficult for YouTube

539
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:52,839
to figure out what it is that they actually want to watch and that's why I think they moveed to that activity feed

540
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:56,400
or what to watch next on mobile devices I think they think better than they

541
00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:02,040
think they know better than you do as far as what you want to watch and so

542
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:06,720
they can use possibly they could be using a previous viewership data to

543
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:10,560
decide whether or not a subscription you have is something that you watch every

544
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:16,200
single time and whether or not to feed that back into the subbox OR to rec put

545
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,119
a some recommended video there or to uh

546
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:21,760
you know to leave it out uh I think this is especially a problem when you produce

547
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:27,520
a ton of content especially like you guys do um if you're putting up two

548
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:29,000
three four videos in one day it seems to

549
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:35,560
that the likelihood that that video is going to get lost and not reach the boxes becomes that much more likely

550
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:40,200
absolutely this is very true and this is one of the reasons for the longest time

551
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:43,000
I completely ignored Twitter Facebook and all of that stuff because partly

552
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:50,079
because it didn't really matter to me because I was working at a retailer I had my day job YouTube was a side

553
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,000
project for me but also partly because

554
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:57,359
um or not that well that's why I ignored it um and then the reason I started

555
00:41:54,119 --> 00:42:00,839
paying attention to it was because of

556
00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:03,520
needing to own the audience in a in a

557
00:42:00,839 --> 00:42:08,680
way that goes beyond um you know Google's Divine will and how they've

558
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,240
decided that you should be allowed to interact I mean there's so many things

559
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:15,920
on YouTube that you look at that are look like they're broken on purpose

560
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:22,480
things like the subscription feed things like the inbox this is the creator of

561
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:25,559
Gmail and the conversation thread

562
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,720
concept yep YouTube has the worst inbox

563
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:31,000
in the world it's true yeah I don't I

564
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:37,160
don't I mean it really doesn't look like their intention is for people to enjoy

565
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,640
using the the inbox the inbox right now

566
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:42,800
I mean they could they could completely get rid of the Inbox and I'd be fine

567
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:47,359
with it absolutely and there are other things that are exactly the same looking

568
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:51,680
at like uh they don't want you to have access directly to your audience they

569
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:55,559
want to control that so things like how you used to be able to back in the day

570
00:42:53,640 --> 00:43:00,559
this is maybe before your time but you used to be able to go through a list

571
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:05,240
of every single one of your subscribers that's true yeah yeah I recall such a

572
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:09,480
thing gone yeah they don't want you to

573
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:11,440
know as a user sorry as a user one thing

574
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,880
that annoys me is there's channels that I subscribe to this actually happened to

575
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:18,720
me a few days ago I briefly mentioned it to you there's channels that I

576
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:22,119
subscribed to like a year or two ago because I watched their stuff and

577
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:26,440
enjoyed it and then watched a random video by them recently when oh that's

578
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:31,400
really cool I should subscribe to these guys realize I was already subscribed to

579
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:35,240
them and went that's interesting I check YouTube almost every day and I've never

580
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,839
seen one of their videos in my subscription fee right which is nuts

581
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,240
because yeah I think I think I don't think you're the only one who's had had

582
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:48,440
an experience like that I get messages on Twitter um fairly regularly that that

583
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:52,520
things aren't reaching the subbox and you end up figuring out that the ones

584
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,480
who end up being that percentage that watch every single video they're they're

585
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:59,640
your super fans they're the ones who actually go out of their way to visit

586
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:03,400
the channel to verify that they that they've seen everything and and what

587
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:08,559
what's worked out on the network in terms of the number of fans that fit

588
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:12,720
into that category is about like 10% you know which is a which is pretty sad when

589
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:17,240
you think about it because you would assume that clicking a subscription

590
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:21,119
button is a fairly committal kind of thing it's like you know you're you're

591
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:25,559
saying that you want to see more content so the idea that only 10% of people

592
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:30,319
after the fact actually follow through on that seems pretty hard to believe

593
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:34,040
I think for me if I look at the analytics numbers because we can see

594
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:37,520
where views come from I think when I look at it on the videos that do really

595
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:42,480
well where it's a Hot Topic something like the Razer Blade 14 that we that we

596
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:47,839
launched a couple of days ago yeah um I'll get probably around 40,000 views

597
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:54,599
from subscribers which is exactly right there in that 10% of my total subscriber

598
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:57,240
number which is obviously a

599
00:44:54,599 --> 00:45:03,400
fabrication well I mean if you've got fourou 400,000 users that share uh uh

600
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:07,920
you know the same kind of uh opinion and taste when it comes to content and

601
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:12,520
entertainment uh subject matter Etc you would assume that more than 10% would be

602
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:17,680
interested in a razor blade unboxing like that is like right in line with the

603
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:20,880
reason they subscribed so I I agree with you there seems to be something else at

604
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:24,640
play let's just hope it doesn't get to a point where we have to start paying to

605
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:28,559
reach people like on Facebook well what it started to feel like to me because

606
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:32,559
I'm looking cuz one of the one of the metrics I remember talking to you about

607
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,760
this uh we we ended up talking on the phone for like 4 hours or something

608
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:40,960
stupid like that this was back when I first met Lou and I think the the

609
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:46,040
conversation then was the metric that I look at for how strong a channel is is

610
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:50,640
the new subscriber growth rate how many new people click that button every

611
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:56,440
single day and I've been looking at the numbers and I go okay every day a

612
00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:01,599
thousand new people click the button for both you and me sort of that 800 to a000

613
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:06,240
range why is it that when I release a video The Day After That thousand people

614
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:10,920
click maybe 10 of them or a hundred of them actually look at it they just

615
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:18,359
clicked yeah it is I mean it's it's it's pretty complicated I don't know I I

616
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,480
assume that there's some elaborate kind

617
00:46:18,359 --> 00:46:23,960
of uh algorithm there that that figures out how they're going to distribute this

618
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:28,359
content I know they're obsessed right now with viewer viewing sessions more so

619
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:34,280
than than they are with view counts in general and they they may think that

620
00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:37,440
they can recommend content to users that

621
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,640
might increase their SE session length

622
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:43,760
and and that that's more important to their endgame than it is for uh the user

623
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:46,920
to get what they think they want I think Google much like in a bunch of their

624
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:51,800
other products thinks that they know what we want more than we

625
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:53,240
do that's and and like I can understand

626
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,200
that from a certain degree but not necessarily because there's certain

627
00:46:55,119 --> 00:47:00,480
types of content like Vice I like watching Vice but I'll sit down and

628
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,359
watch a whole thing of Vice but I don't want my entire subscription box to be

629
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:09,640
Vice other videos I'll script through it to see what I want I'll enjoy seeing

630
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:13,480
more of those than the vice videos but it'll give me less because I'm skipping

631
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:17,040
through it right whereas I might watch one or two Vice videos but I watch the

632
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:23,559
whole thing so my whole feed is always just Vice yep yeah I mean I see yeah I

633
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:28,520
mean I think like the the the Twitter model should should should work just as

634
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:31,559
well here I I don't click on every link that somebody posts but it doesn't mean

635
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:35,559
that I don't want to see their tweets that's right and if I didn't want to see

636
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:40,839
it will the unsubscriber or the unfollow buttons right there yep yep 100% I mean

637
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:46,000
there are there are a million ways to do this that are user-driven but Google

638
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:49,680
finds automated systems to be much more interesting so how do you feel as a

639
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:55,960
content creator do you feel like you need to divest from the YouTube

640
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,839
platform um I don't think so I mean I

641
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:03,839
think my goals have sort of changed as things as things have gone along uh you

642
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:07,920
know I think uh in in the beginning I thought AdSense was the be all and end

643
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:12,800
all like it would it would be sort of what we all relied upon but uh going

644
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:17,000
forward I realized that that real relationships meeting people uh creating

645
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:21,520
Connections in the entertainment business and elsewhere uh have the

646
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,760
potential to bring real value to what you're doing and to to you know

647
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:30,880
potentially give you access to resources that you never even realized you wanted

648
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:34,839
and and uh you know for me that means getting super creative like i' I guess

649
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,119
I've always been a creative person but I never imagined that at any point I'd be

650
00:48:36,839 --> 00:48:42,880
sitting around trying to come up with the next idea for some some new video

651
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:48,920
but I think that YouTube for me rather than be uh you know my boss like I

652
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:53,640
originally looked at it now it's just um it's an outlet it happens to be the

653
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:58,559
platform the player essentially for for what I'm doing but I think that there

654
00:48:55,720 --> 00:49:02,880
are probably many different ways to create businesses around the idea of

655
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:06,880
delivering video content online uh that maybe aren't necessarily YouTube I mean

656
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:10,400
I know a lot of networks all the large networks uh the first thing they'll do

657
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,119
when you sign with them is they will make sure that your content is places

658
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:19,400
other than YouTube I mean they'll get it on Daily Motion and they'll get it on uh

659
00:49:17,319 --> 00:49:23,920
blip blip TV I mean they'll put anywhere they can put it they will put it and if

660
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:27,920
the networks continue to grow and continue to gather as much Steam and and

661
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:32,880
and be as powerful as they are and as they will be um I could totally imagine

662
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,920
them becoming their own conglomerate I mean the the power that exists in

663
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:40,599
networks now is is uh unbelievable I never would have imagined that that that

664
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:46,880
was what was going to happen here and it surprises me that YouTube let it

665
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:48,480
happen um yeah yeah I know it it um I

666
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:53,160
mean they're they're they're still doing it they're still letting networks Sprout

667
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:58,359
up from everywhere again I think Google is one of those companies that it's very

668
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:02,920
difficult to figure out they play such a long game you know it's like it's like a

669
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:06,200
chess match I have their their objective might be 10 steps down the road you

670
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:10,559
never really know why they make the decisions they make and at first they

671
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:14,960
might they they look really strange and and like they won't work but I mean some

672
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:20,440
of these some of those networks have have been sold recently revision 3 sold

673
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,760
the discovery um uh awesome awesomeness

674
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:27,440
TV sold the DreamWorks and we're talking deals in the tens of millions of dollars

675
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:31,400
maybe Google's goal in the short term is to bring some traditional Hollywood

676
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:34,359
money into the Productions that are occurring on YouTube and maybe they were

677
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:38,760
prepared to do that at a at a at a relatively large

678
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:42,839
cost we we've we've actually covered that before channels being backed by

679
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:46,839
like you just said traditional Hollywood money and it seems like it's going to

680
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:52,119
happen another topic that we have in here is

681
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,799
uh possible discussion is is this why

682
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:57,400
New Media has a chance to swoop in and eat traditional media's lunch uh yes I'd

683
00:50:55,720 --> 00:51:01,960
like to I'd like to play this for the audience this is uh this is kind of

684
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:06,839
hilarious so hold on I'm just going to go ahead and full screen this and we're

685
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,839
going to switch to my laptop

686
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,720
here oh yay touch

687
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:27,640
screencap let's do flamingos this one flamingos elegant bird this is Long

688
00:51:24,839 --> 00:51:31,760
Island not Florida knows this time the boys are going over

689
00:51:29,319 --> 00:51:37,359
the if we don't finish this job we're not getting

690
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:37,359
paid and bad attitude in

691
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:43,480
fullo Island landscapers THS night at

692
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:55,640
9 so back to what I was saying that this

693
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:58,920
is why we both share view that big Hollywood money might be coming into

694
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:04,040
YouTube because we need to get away from this trash and more towards stuff that's

695
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:08,839
being produced for platforms like YouTube and this is what allowed New

696
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,760
Media to come and basically start eating

697
00:52:08,839 --> 00:52:16,920
their lunch but now is this is this it then is the answer somewhere in the

698
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:20,240
middle where obviously like obviously

699
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:22,799
shows like Breaking Bad are going to

700
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:26,480
exist you need high production values people have an appetite for high

701
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:30,400
production values but they've also Dem demonstrated they have an appetite for

702
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:35,760
this like weird Indie content that's like guys opening boxes or you know guys

703
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,640
running around in sort of you know box armor hitting each other or whatever

704
00:52:37,359 --> 00:52:44,119
else it happens to be was the answer somewhere in the middle where we take

705
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:47,960
that New Media creativity and that old media

706
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:54,720
money and is that what YouTube will be in five years sure or even just a

707
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:57,160
mix what do you think yeah yeah I mean

708
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:59,920
uh I think I think it's you're probably right it'll probably end up somewhere in

709
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:05,040
the middle I think what'll end up happening is guys like us regular dudes

710
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:09,400
who never intended to be where we are will likely get access to resources that

711
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:13,280
we never expected and what the outcome of that is it will be interesting to see

712
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:18,400
I don't think we're that URI is necessarily going to go out even with a

713
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:21,440
budget and necessarily make breaking bad but we might do

714
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:27,359
things we could just start a meth lab

715
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:31,920
but we you know we might do we might do things that people uh people enjoy and

716
00:53:29,799 --> 00:53:35,640
didn't didn't really know that they were were going to enjoy I mean I really

717
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:42,799
think that the internet as a whole from a media delivery uh uh perspective has

718
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:45,400
has really changed uh pop culture in a

719
00:53:42,799 --> 00:53:49,760
big way like I don't know in the future how easy it's going to be to Market

720
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:54,480
something as as popular to everyone when we've all become so sophisticated in our

721
00:53:52,359 --> 00:53:58,400
own specific niches when we've decided like I mean you guys are on here on your

722
00:53:56,119 --> 00:54:02,559
Channel and on this stream Etc talking about incredibly sophisticated things in

723
00:54:00,359 --> 00:54:05,559
a particular subject matter that never could have happened on traditional media

724
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:09,040
because you needed to find a message that was suitable for millions of people

725
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,520
that you could you know cheaply broadcast on a dumb pipe to millions of

726
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:17,640
people all at once since that's not the case anymore I think everything's going

727
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:21,200
to get more interesting I think money in people's hands like you and I could

728
00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:25,640
produce some stuff that we never even knew we wanted I think a great example

729
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:30,440
is something like video game high school too where it was crowdfunded and

730
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:35,119
actually I want to transition into some of our crowdfunding topics coming very

731
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:39,520
soon so it was crowdfunded and it is exactly what we're talking about where

732
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:44,520
it's the creativity of these and I'm not taking anything away from Freddy Wong

733
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:50,119
but relatively amateur folks they had some Talent uh but let's face it come on

734
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:55,240
their scripting is terrible the acting is terrible comparatively it's really

735
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:59,720
good for the platform it's on yes and it's really good for what they're but if

736
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:05,040
they took the creativity the mind that is Freddy Wong and they gave him the

737
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:07,079
money and the actors and the resources

738
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:10,559
maybe he's the kind of guy who could take that and really find that middle

739
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:15,599
ground and maybe Video Game High School season six or whatever his next major

740
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:19,160
project is is that thing Freddy Wong's G be huge Freddy Wong is huge yeah I mean

741
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,039
that's that's that's an important thing to remember I think is that you know the

742
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:27,160
the the more opportunities that a content creator has to sort of hone

743
00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:31,760
their craft the better the stuff becomes if you look at our our early videos are

744
00:55:29,319 --> 00:55:35,960
are likely terrible um I mean I'll speak for myself I'm not going to speak for

745
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:39,599
you oh mine are worse than yours so you know and and and as time goes on and as

746
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,799
you produce more content that changes and I think it I think of course it'll

747
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:47,480
be exactly the same for people like him that are working with larger budgets so

748
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:51,920
let's talk crowdfunding for a little bit we actually have a few things on the uh

749
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:57,000
on the stream or wait no I want to hear what you think of chomecast first your

750
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:59,359
hands on with one right yep um I've been

751
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,960
I've been playing with the chomecast uh since uh yesterday I first tested it out

752
00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:09,359
and then we've been messing around with it a little bit today as well um I mean

753
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,920
it's 35 bucks it's crazy like I I I

754
00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:15,599
remember as a kid sitting around thinking it would be amazing to broadcast wirelessly what's on my

755
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:21,280
computer onto my flat panel onto my bigger TV and the the fact that we can

756
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:24,359
do that now in HD with a device that

757
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,880
that is like the size of a USB key is um

758
00:56:24,359 --> 00:56:30,400
is pretty damn impressive and so um from a technical standpoint it works

759
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:36,920
exactly as they say it's going to work I mean you can broad you broadcast a tab from your Chrome browser you install a

760
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:42,720
uh a little extension it takes a couple of seconds finds it automatically and

761
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:44,960
then uh in in the YouTube app on your

762
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:48,119
mobile device as well you you'll see a a chomecast button and you can just

763
00:56:46,359 --> 00:56:52,559
immediately move anything you're watching from the couch up onto the up

764
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:56,880
onto the flat panel and what I said in my video was the reason that this is so

765
00:56:55,039 --> 00:57:01,119
interesting to me is because the so far the YouTube experience from the couch is

766
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:05,280
terrible like on every device uh you know whether it's a game console or the

767
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:09,760
Apple TV or whatever like um searching for a video trying to have that sort

768
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:14,319
sort of be a video DJ with a bunch of people sitting around has been a bad

769
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,880
experience and this really changes that

770
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:20,079
in a in a really big way and it does so at a price point that a lot of people

771
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:25,440
are going to be interested in now I've been saying this since I saw the first

772
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:28,280
smart TV smart TV was Dead on Arrival it

773
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:34,240
was it never stood a chance we already had things like Patriot box office and

774
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:35,920
things like the ASUS o player WD Live

775
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:40,640
our my TV live or whatever they called that thing we already had these things

776
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:43,520
which were already better than the smart

777
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:47,839
TV implementations that we have now all these years later and now Google's

778
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:55,160
coming along and saying $35 don't worry about that smart TV it's

779
00:57:52,319 --> 00:57:59,720
over yeah no no I completely agree I mean it's amazing you walk into a Best

780
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:04,960
Buy or future shop or whatever and you go through the TV aisle and they want to

781
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:08,400
charge $1,000 for for smart features or

782
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,920
at least 500 and I mean now they're

783
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,359
going to have a little device sitting on the shelf next to it and any sales guy

784
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:18,440
with a head on his shoulders is going to say listen get the dumbest panel you can

785
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:24,079
and plug this little HDMI device in and you're going to be better off cuz and I

786
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:27,400
love how it's it's Google so anyone could have released this and if it

787
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:30,760
worked this way well been like ah 200 bucks 250 bucks and no one would have

788
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:36,880
blinked an eye they would have been like that's a little bit expensive but it's awesome so everyone should buy it 35

789
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:44,839
bucks this is another example of they're thinking 10 steps ahead and like they're

790
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:47,640
doing something completely boners

791
00:58:44,839 --> 00:58:50,760
and yeah it's definitely a lost leader um for the first bunch of sales they

792
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:54,440
were including three months of Netflix which brought the ACT which brought the

793
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:59,240
actual cost of the device to $11 they I think took that off yeah it's

794
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:04,920
gone no no they they did they they sold out of that particular promo but going

795
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:08,440
into it I mean this is a classic Google situation where they completely e either

796
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:14,559
they do it intentionally or they underestimate the demand for the products and it becomes a [ __ ]

797
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,920
show it's it's one or the it's it's one or the other I'm not sure I mean I

798
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:20,720
haven't figured it out yet I think I think that they suck at retail to be

799
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,440
honest with you so just make everything free and

800
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:28,160
just figure out how to deal with yeah yeah exactly well the funny thing was

801
00:59:26,359 --> 00:59:33,200
like a bunch of people a bunch of people rushed to order it on the Google Play

802
00:59:29,799 --> 00:59:35,480
Store right and they they had a 5-day

803
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:39,880
lead time from those purchases and then 45 minutes later Amazon launched and it

804
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,480
was available for next day delivery and so all these like enthusiasts who were

805
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:49,000
sitting around waiting to click their Mouse button on the Google Play Store got screwed and guys like me ended up

806
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:54,960
with it the next day aesome I I I I missed out on it

807
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:59,440
entirely so I found someone on Twitter who who follows me who ordered two right

808
00:59:57,359 --> 01:00:02,599
away so I'm going to buy one of them off him and hopefully I'll get to play with

809
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:06,400
it pretty soon yeah you won't you won't regret it I mean it's it's a it's a

810
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:11,599
stupid easy device to take with you I can see carrying this thing um into

811
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:15,079
boardrooms uh into hotel rooms hotel rooms y it's it's crazy it's it's it's

812
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:21,520
really convenient so crowdfunding I wanted to

813
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:23,920
talk about a couple of things so number

814
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:29,599
one is ah yes have you heard about the

815
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:32,920
crowdfunded Ubuntu Android

816
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:34,880
phone it is it actually funded though

817
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:38,920
not yet yeah they're working on it but they want an enormous amount they want

818
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:44,000
an enormous amount of money though 35 million they want to break every record

819
01:00:41,319 --> 01:00:52,920
from every Crown crowdfunding project ever they want 32 million by August

820
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:56,070
21st yeah um what are the odds

821
01:00:56,119 --> 01:01:02,480
just I I honestly I don't I don't know I'm I'm probably GNA catch heat for this

822
01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:08,760
especially from your audience but do it I mean the what makes great phones what

823
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:12,799
makes great consumer devices is Mass Appeal is scale you know when they when

824
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:18,039
when you have enough users that are out there in the public using them it means you're going to have a better ecosystem

825
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:23,559
of developers working on those devices I just don't see the value proposition of

826
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:25,480
having this this device you know in the

827
01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:30,440
far corner of the room that you and 10 other people will have um I don't see

828
01:01:28,359 --> 01:01:35,200
how that can be all that compelling this is not the only phone they're releasing

829
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:37,039
though this is just the super premium

830
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:40,280
ridiculous what I'm saying is what I'm saying is are they launching a

831
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:44,680
legitimate competitor to what's already out there or is this is this something

832
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:48,400
that's going to be for enthusiasts and it's a very good question because you

833
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:52,480
look at something like Blackberry 10 it was reviewed reasonably well in fact you

834
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:58,079
had said you felt that there was a place for it slick um in the market however

835
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:03,039
when's the last time you saw a Z1 or a Q10 in someone's hand and it's not a

836
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:08,039
matter of is it a good platform because I think we can all agree that it's good

837
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:13,240
but the problem is will you tear my Android device away from me or someone

838
01:02:10,279 --> 01:02:18,319
else's iOS device away from them with this one thing that I have to input on

839
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:22,400
this is BlackBerry headside loading apps this runs an entire Android operating

840
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:27,520
system and it's switching is fast as far as I've heard even an Android phone

841
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,279
though okay like a a poorly supported

842
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:33,119
Android device there will be apps all over the play store that don't work

843
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:37,440
right with it this is a thing that exists now never mind if you plan to

844
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:42,839
make only what do they plan to make 40,000 of them I think that was

845
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:47,559
it I don't know that sounds about right 40,000 units is the planned run and they

846
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:53,520
will cost around $800 and something dollar each uh the first few that got in

847
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,920
got them for $600 yeah it's $830 now uh

848
01:02:53,520 --> 01:03:00,079
one of the other things that seems a little bit crazy to me is what they're

849
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:06,319
committing right now they're committing um I believe it was a sapphire screen uh

850
01:03:02,839 --> 01:03:08,520
dual 4G so it's like a world 4G phone

851
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:13,559
they're committing 128 gigs of storage they're committing an um undisclosed

852
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:20,880
processor 4 and 1 half inch screen all these things except the ship date is

853
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,880
going to be I believe it was April

854
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:28,400
2014 yeah it I mean I I tend to think

855
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:32,960
like I I I I personally think this thing's going to be a disaster myself I

856
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:39,160
if it does end up reaching it I I just don't think that a crowdsourced phone is

857
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:43,559
what we all need right now I I there have been crappy enough crowdsourced

858
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:49,160
products that have come out that aren't that aren't nearly as um that aren't

859
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:53,240
nearly as enthusiastic as trying to develop a phone using crowd money I mean

860
01:03:51,799 --> 01:03:58,200
that's just an incredibly hard thing to do one thing is it it is iCal so they're

861
01:03:56,799 --> 01:04:03,400
a company that's been around for an incredibly large period of time their software done Hardware their software

862
01:04:02,279 --> 01:04:09,000
already works and they're getting other people to do the hardware look at even someone like Samsung they are now the

863
01:04:06,839 --> 01:04:14,000
world's most profitable consumer electronics company above Apple you look

864
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:18,319
at their first iteration of anything it's terrible their first TVs terrible

865
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:23,799
their first Optical drives terrible their first phones terrible their first

866
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:26,880
freaking appliances were terrible all

867
01:04:23,799 --> 01:04:29,039
terrible this is going to be canonical

868
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:35,359
first attempt at a super premium high-end phone and they're only they're

869
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:37,440
only spending a maximum of $32 million

870
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:44,000
on something that I can tell you right now Samsung is spending a lot more than

871
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:48,799
that an order of magnitude or two more than that yeah well Samsung spends more

872
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:53,480
money on marketing than the market cap for HTC and Motorola combined any any of

873
01:04:51,839 --> 01:04:57,839
that you you could add up all the Android competitors and Samsung spends

874
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:02,839
more on marketing alone than their net value so I mean it's this is this is

875
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:08,279
there's a terrible situation out there right now for Android phone makers who

876
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:12,480
aren't Samsung in general let alone a new player who wants to come along and

877
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:16,799
compete in the space HTC they're flat I mean they're they're barely making any

878
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:21,119
money and they make beautiful Hardware what another I'm going to I'm

879
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:25,319
just continue battle both of you go ahead um another thing is this again is

880
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:29,960
not their only phone yes so they are pulling in this is funding to make sure

881
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:33,279
that they can sell enough of them because if they can't sell enough of

882
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:37,200
them they're not going to bother release it this isn't the only funding that's

883
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:40,240
going into this phone they're pulling in funding from other parts of their

884
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:44,559
company they're a massive company and they always do this one thing that this

885
01:05:42,279 --> 01:05:48,760
phone is doing is closing in ecosystems so you can plug it in and it will Dock

886
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:52,200
and turn it into a whole Ubunto OS as you plug it into your computer so they

887
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:56,440
want to bring together an ecosystem they want to do this with all their phones and they're going to pull in funding

888
01:05:54,440 --> 01:06:00,960
from all over the place to help this because if you watch the video they want

889
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:04,240
this to be their super car basically so that they can trickle down and then

890
01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:09,799
eventually release a phone like this which is no longer a trickle down and then have another one of these so is the

891
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:15,400
market ready for this yet because CES 2 three years ago I was already watching

892
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:18,240
superphones being plugged into laptop

893
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:22,200
shells that turn them into Android os's on a not a laptop shell though plug it

894
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:28,039
directly into a monitor plug it into whatever you want are we ready yet for a

895
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:31,680
phone that is more than a phone and will people care I don't know if people will

896
01:06:30,359 --> 01:06:35,200
care but it doesn't matter what I'm trying to say is that they're getting funding from other parts of their

897
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:39,279
company oh that much is true because they're trying to close up an ecos but my point with Samsung was that it

898
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:43,920
doesn't matter how much funding they're pulling from whatever part of their company because they're not as big as

899
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:48,319
Samsung and Samsung's first attempt at anything usually sucks yeah so I'm

900
01:06:46,119 --> 01:06:53,720
saying it might suck unless they're better than Samsung at

901
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:57,200
Hardware I don't know man I'm pretty sure I I don't remember where I read

902
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,920
this but I'm pretty sure they're pulling in other influences for the hardware

903
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:04,440
there's no doubt I mean that this is a super ambitious thing I and I don't you

904
01:07:02,839 --> 01:07:08,760
know I don't mind it doesn't bother me like I think anybody out there trying to

905
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:14,200
to innovate and create something you know is is a is a positive thing it's

906
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:18,079
going to push the entire the entire uh Market forward but at the same time if I

907
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,079
was a betting man like if you were asking me to invest in it I mean that's

908
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:25,760
a different that's a completely different story I didn't yep there's no

909
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:29,359
way I'm investing in a piece of hard that comes out 9 months from now I

910
01:07:27,319 --> 01:07:33,480
didn't I'm I'm I'm excited for it I want to see where it's going I did not buy it

911
01:07:31,319 --> 01:07:37,240
and I looked at it fast enough that I could have bought it at the cheapest

912
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:41,119
bracket and I didn't so to throw that into the pie I'm excited for the next

913
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:45,279
time they do this in the video they said that they if this works they want to do

914
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:49,319
it annually almost okay so if they do this next year and it's super successful

915
01:07:47,559 --> 01:07:53,359
this year then maybe I will because that would be awesome but I want to see it

916
01:07:51,839 --> 01:08:00,760
happen first so moving on to our next uh

917
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:04,000
crowdsourcing topic uh what happens when

918
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:06,960
these things fail so the Doom that came

919
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:11,240
to Atlantic City by the forking path Co this is not an easy update to write the

920
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:16,080
short version the project is over the game is cancelled and there's a bunch of

921
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:19,960
angry comments from backers so these are backers only the problem is we weren't

922
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:26,159
kept in the loop we've been giving false information the problem is that you know

923
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:32,319
why did we pay for him to move why did we pay for these things why was there

924
01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:34,679
this ambitious goal with you know like a

925
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:39,719
$35,000 or what why was there this ambitious project that had a $35,000

926
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:45,319
goal that clearly isn't enough money to do anything and you know maybe this

927
01:08:43,799 --> 01:08:49,000
isn't even the worst case scenario I mean Lou you were talking about

928
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:53,319
Kickstarter or Indiegogo or crowdfunded projects that maybe they actually make

929
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:57,440
it to Market but they totally suck how much Faith are you putting into this

930
01:08:54,799 --> 01:09:04,080
stuff um I mean for me I don't put very much

931
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:07,719
uh you know there's there's I think that a lot of the products that have come out

932
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:11,040
of it have proven to be less than what people expected and in the case of

933
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:15,560
probably the largest product to date which was the the uh the watch the

934
01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:19,719
pebble watch they they even did something strange which was move units

935
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:24,319
to Best Buy prior to fulfilling the people who paid in advance uh there

936
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:29,120
there are no rules you know when you send your money not guaranteed anything

937
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:32,920
and you're essentially enabling a group of people who you don't know to go out

938
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:37,560
and decide how they want to spend that and when they want to deliver something

939
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:42,679
back to you for that for that investment I mean I think that I think crowdfunding

940
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:46,040
could really go to the next level when you actually can get a you can actually

941
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:50,120
invest in a company you can actually get a piece of the action like that that to

942
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:53,799
me gets a lot more interesting you know when when you can say I really believe

943
01:09:51,799 --> 01:09:57,480
in this to the point where I want to invest in it anywhere else in the real

944
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:02,320
world when a person makes an investment in a company they expect something back

945
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:06,880
in terms of equity you don't just expect to be pre-ordering something it it's

946
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:10,880
amazing how just a little bit of hype can drive people to pay for something

947
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:16,760
that doesn't exist and may never exist and that's exactly it is right now I've

948
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:18,960
seen good ideas crowdfunded that didn't

949
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:23,840
make it because they did not have a slick video or they didn't have a great

950
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:28,239
presentation or the models showcasing the Prototype were ugly or whatever

951
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:33,480
other infinite number of reasons that a good idea can fail and I've seen stupid

952
01:10:30,719 --> 01:10:39,040
ideas that are meeting their targets even though like you know I sort of I

953
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:45,719
sort of hate to call these guys out but it's a it's a phone case that has um

954
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:49,120
earbuds that like retract into it and

955
01:10:45,719 --> 01:10:50,480
I'm just like it it it beat its Target

956
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:55,040
and I'm looking at this going like are you freaking serious like it's going to

957
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:58,840
be the crappiest earbuds in the world we already know this because they don't

958
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:03,560
know a bloody thing about your buds it's going to be a cell phone case which

959
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:07,600
shouldn't be worth more than about $4 and they I think they wanted 30 bucks

960
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:13,640
or 40 bucks for it or something stupid like that yeah I I think I think a lot I

961
01:11:11,719 --> 01:11:18,040
think a lot of people fall in love with with the concept and and when you when

962
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:22,600
your product becomes a message and not an actual physical product when you boil

963
01:11:20,199 --> 01:11:26,880
a product down just to its just to its advertising components you realize that

964
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:30,679
that's actually where the magic is like when when when a company tries to

965
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:34,640
convince you to buy buy something gener generally speaking you know leading up

966
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:38,199
to that actual purchase is when you're the most excited once you've actually

967
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:43,560
got it that excitement starts to you know uh you know sort of yeah ex platus

968
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:47,520
or hopefully if you like the product at plateaus it might even go down if it's

969
01:11:45,719 --> 01:11:50,920
not what you expected but that's what they're doing they're playing off that

970
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:54,400
initial moment when you think wow that would be cool and they're selling you

971
01:11:52,360 --> 01:12:00,199
something within that moment so it's sort of it's almost in a way like some

972
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:02,320
new kind of advertising platform where

973
01:12:00,199 --> 01:12:05,920
where they're capitalizing at the point of advertisement instead of waiting for

974
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:09,679
the production to take place it's The Simpsons monor rail episode all over

975
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:13,360
again now YouTube slammed it I'm gonna again come from the other side at the

976
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:17,159
same time the whole thing about Kickstarter if you read anything up

977
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:21,880
about it and Indiegogo the customer is supposed to read the article a lot of

978
01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:25,639
times they don't a lot of things have been released where they did not do the

979
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:29,440
research that's the customer's fault and even though it failed that sucks you're

980
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:34,199
taking a gamble with your money you're playing a game with your money you're

981
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:37,560
going okay this looks interesting I want it and I want to keep be informed on it

982
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:43,320
and I want updates on it I want to know everything that's going on about it so you put money down for a segment of

983
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:46,000
something so you might get something back you might get information only you

984
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:51,560
might get your name in the game you might get your face in the game you might get whatever say it's a game it

985
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:55,840
could be something else you need to look into it and make sure read up on the

986
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:59,560
people read up on the product make sure it's going to work a lot of the times

987
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:03,400
the only things I I've backed quite a few things on Kickstarter a lot of the

988
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:08,320
things I will only back them if they're mostly produced already I don't want to

989
01:13:05,719 --> 01:13:12,199
back something if the guy's like yeah I have a cad model of it and like it might

990
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:17,960
work that's pretty cool I'm going to back something when he's like yeah this

991
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:19,360
is my prototype it works look boom boom

992
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:24,199
it's awesome I just need to produce a bunch of them I need money to get into manufacturing that makes a lot more

993
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:27,760
sense for me when he goes I've talked to these people they've said that they can

994
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:30,719
manufacture this many units at this price I need this much money to make it

995
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:36,120
happen that's something I'm going to back right I've only backed one thing so

996
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:42,000
far Star Citizen that was it and it was only because Chris Roberts has a

997
01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:44,199
longtime tradition of success and he had

998
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:49,800
a great idea and concept and he had enough footage enough ingame gameplay

999
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:54,400
that he was releasing and showing that I was confident that it was worth dropping

1000
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:58,679
my money on big name research done by the purchaser all that kind of stuff so

1001
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:02,960
Kickstarter is not bad just don't use it poorly no no no I I I want to be clear

1002
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:07,040
too it might come off like I'm bashing it I absolutely love the idea of it I

1003
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:11,080
think the idea of crowdfunding is fantastic but I think that there's the

1004
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:15,080
potential here that if enough people get screwed it can be that sort of one

1005
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:19,760
rotten apple situation where it can spoil the public perception about the

1006
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:22,840
entire platform so it's important that they make it very clear how you're

1007
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:27,840
supposed to engage with it as an end user because if there's enough press

1008
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:29,600
about about bad things occurring then

1009
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,679
some things like this might not H have the same Traction in the future and I

1010
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:36,880
don't want to see that happen because I like the idea of a producer being able

1011
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:41,360
to go and reach directly to the audience without nearly as many middlemen as were

1012
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:45,800
traditionally required tell okay tell me something as a

1013
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:51,400
business owner so I've really liked your your thought about somewhere in between

1014
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:56,800
private investment and going IPO full-blown what about a crowd investment

1015
01:14:55,320 --> 01:15:02,159
that's not an investment in the product because that's another one of the things I agree with you 100% that's absolutely

1016
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:08,760
ridiculous I'm not giving my money upfront so that I can have a spot in

1017
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:12,000
line that's that's absurd I mean it's

1018
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,800
illegal in the USA to charge actually

1019
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:18,080
this is kind of funny it's illegal in the USA to charge someone's credit card

1020
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:22,400
for a back order before you ship it that's

1021
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:28,000
right yet but can can they not do a pre-authorization on it yes they can do

1022
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:33,440
preauthorization but if I'm giving you my money I want something besides a spot

1023
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:39,760
in line and is that potentially the future of this where if unbox therapy

1024
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:42,400
you know LLC or Linus Media Group Inc

1025
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:46,679
decides to get investment we could crowdfund investment in terms of an

1026
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:51,199
actual ownership in the company um that that is currently

1027
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:57,120
illegal in the United States I don't I don't know about Canada uh but there is

1028
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:59,040
talk that eventually things might might

1029
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:03,320
end up going in that direction but the TR the only the trouble I have there is

1030
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:06,800
that it's kind of like an amplification of the problems we already talked about

1031
01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:10,280
where if the end user doesn't do their research and understand what they're

1032
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:15,239
getting involved in it could bring a lot of heat onto the entire platform and and

1033
01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:18,960
it could it could end up being fairly destructive so it would need you would

1034
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:24,040
need to have some kind of authentication system to determine if people were a

1035
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:29,159
good fit I think that the the producer would have to look at each person's uh

1036
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:32,480
submission and determine whether or not they wanted to work with that person and

1037
01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:36,800
accept even if even if it's a tiny little stake you would have to look at

1038
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:40,520
it and do uh some some quick analysis to determine whether or not you wanted to

1039
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:44,639
accept that uh bid and that's actually a very good

1040
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:49,520
point because that's one of the reasons that Linus Media Group Inc doesn't have

1041
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:53,639
any private investors uh we had offers we had people who wanted to throw some

1042
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:59,320
funding at us at the beginning um in order for to have a stake of the company

1043
01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:01,520
and for me it wasn't even a matter of do

1044
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:05,480
I mind giving up a stake because it's other than it being a phenomenal amount

1045
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:11,400
of paperwork it's not really the end of the world I still get to pay myself a

1046
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:14,280
salary so you know I'll be fine um and

1047
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:20,560
it wasn't necessarily a matter of basically the problem was do I want

1048
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:26,280
to work with this person and if you did a crowdfunded type of initiative like

1049
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:32,440
this you're working so many people you have to answer to so many people

1050
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:35,080
y it's kind of yeah I did listen I I did

1051
01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:41,360
one before and it was not the most fun experience ever yeah your ultimate uh

1052
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:43,719
ultimate gaming build yeah it's it's

1053
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:48,199
it's it's a it's a really strange way to interact with people you've never

1054
01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:52,679
met you know that's that's the bottom line it's

1055
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:54,280
like you know ultimately people I mean

1056
01:17:52,679 --> 01:17:59,480
I'm sure you've the whole keyboard Warrior thing thing you know how this works when people have anonymity online

1057
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:03,440
and they're not a face and they're not a person that has to answer you know with

1058
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:09,520
a face attached to it all of a sudden what they're saying and how they're saying it changes

1059
01:18:07,159 --> 01:18:14,000
drastically absolutely it's a really good point okay I think I had one more

1060
01:18:12,199 --> 01:18:19,560
topic that I really wanted to discuss with Lou here before we uh before we

1061
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:23,360
said thank you very much for for joining us I'm just trying to see if I can find

1062
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:27,040
it here plastic iPhone oh yeah the plastic iPhone so I'm I'm going to go

1063
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:30,199
ahead I'm going to fire this up and I'm going to just let the viewers check out

1064
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:33,159
the video a little bit here if they haven't already

1065
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:42,000
sure so guys this is all considered speculation at this point in oh there's

1066
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:47,679
a pizza ad I used to I used to be able to spin pizzas spin dough I worked at

1067
01:18:45,159 --> 01:18:52,560
pizza shop good job hey guys Mike Detroit with the sneak peek of the new

1068
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:57,080
plastic iPhone so this is just the back shell of the phone as you can see

1069
01:18:54,880 --> 01:19:00,320
integrates all the chassis components as well so we don't have our battery or the

1070
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:05,719
display or anything like that we just have the chassis components like the EM Shield the frame for the okay that's

1071
01:19:04,199 --> 01:19:10,679
that's basically the point the video goes on for about six minutes but uh I I

1072
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:16,040
don't know I don't know how much more there is to say about it than that it's a little bit thicker than an iPhone 5

1073
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:22,560
it's obviously going to be cheaper than an iPhone 5 how how many times has Steve

1074
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:27,639
Jobs spun in his grave at this point in the very short time that he's been pass

1075
01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:32,000
pass away my my comment directly on the document was just how pissed would jobs

1076
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:37,760
be because

1077
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:41,520
yeah I I mean well the the 3G was had a

1078
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:43,360
plastic back yes but they moved beyond

1079
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:48,840
that and I don't think jobs ever believed in moving backwards the

1080
01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:50,800
original iMac was a plastic CRT after

1081
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:56,320
that did he ever go back to a plastic iMac no yeah I mean plastic is I mean

1082
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:01,760
that's one of my my most major criticisms of the uh of the S4 the S4

1083
01:19:59,480 --> 01:20:07,960
the the the texture of the plastic on the S4 is so slimy it's um it just does

1084
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:11,199
it just doesn't have that same sort of feel it doesn't feel like a high quality

1085
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:17,000
material I mean these These are going to be cheap these are going to be the first Apple's first foray into the I suppose

1086
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:20,400
the budget market and have and and their F definitely their first foray into

1087
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:25,440
having multiple devices available in the phone segment so um I think there's

1088
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:28,960
pretty much one reason they did not not there's two reasons I guess there's the

1089
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:33,280
expense so they could sell them cheaper and second they're going to do colors

1090
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:37,960
and they've had incredible success in the past with the iPod lineup going you

1091
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:40,960
know having different colors for a different audience and I don't know I

1092
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:44,520
mean I personally don't care that much about colors but I guess there's

1093
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:50,159
probably a youthful audience out there that might even iPods were anodized

1094
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:53,440
metal later on in the product cycle or later on in the in the product

1095
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:59,880
development and I mean the reason I think they're doing this is pure uh dick

1096
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:02,199
measuring for lack of a better word you

1097
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:06,719
look at Samsung smartphone shipments versus Apple's iPhone shipments for Q2

1098
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:11,560
Samsung sold about double what Apple does is that because they're selling a

1099
01:21:08,679 --> 01:21:15,719
bajillion in one S4s okay partially yes yeah they didn't Apple hasn't launched a

1100
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:22,480
new phone yes so Apple hasn't launched a new phone and in addition to that Apple

1101
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:25,159
doesn't have a lowcost volume mover in

1102
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:30,080
order to maintain their dominance with the with theore if they want to

1103
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:33,760
keep having as many downloads as gole play which I don't think has Google

1104
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:38,840
passed them already if not it's very close yeah I'm not sure total number of

1105
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:43,199
downloads that I don't know I think I think that the App Store still has more

1106
01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:46,679
yeah I think I think for total of all time I'm pretty sure they're but they

1107
01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:50,120
have a they have a Long Head Start and I think they're not that far ahead anymore

1108
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:55,199
last time I looked at it so there's two things here so number one is I think

1109
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:59,360
apple is afraid in that measuring contest that is how many units of phones

1110
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:06,159
are you selling and number two is I think they want to maintain iOS as the

1111
01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:09,400
premier development mobile platform for

1112
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:11,920
developers to really be attracted to um

1113
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:16,920
and I wonder if either of those are the right approach because you look at what

1114
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:21,920
brought about the success of os 10 and it wasn't Apple being afraid of having

1115
01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:26,360
6% market share they were content to have 6% market share but they did what

1116
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:29,199
they believed was right whether it was right or not is a whole other

1117
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,639
conversation but they did what they believed and it looks like that's

1118
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:36,280
turning around now with the iPhone where instead of doing what they believe is

1119
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:41,120
right and what they believe is correct they're doing what investors are

1120
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:42,840
demanding or what you know yaho that

1121
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:45,840
email them are telling them that they think they should do I don't think cook

1122
01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:50,199
has the balls they're going for those happy metrics instead of what is really

1123
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:56,320
deep down what they should be going for because of exactly what you just said which I don't necessarily feel like

1124
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:58,159
repeating um but I I think you're right

1125
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:02,719
yeah yeah they've they've been making Mass Market decisions for a while now I

1126
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:06,920
mean you you can look at some of their decisions with the pro lineup I mean

1127
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:12,040
they didn't update the Mac Pro for well ye years now maybe five years that was

1128
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,560
terrible you know and and they um you

1129
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:18,280
know they've going been going with more embedded Solutions where systems aren't

1130
01:23:15,639 --> 01:23:21,639
as upgradeable as they once were um you know one of the most major consumer

1131
01:23:20,199 --> 01:23:24,960
decisions they made was to put their stores in malls where if anybody does

1132
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:29,400
any research on malls you know that like

1133
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:34,560
eight out of 10 people at any given time in a mall are females um I I remember I

1134
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:38,639
remember I'm not trying to be sexist or anything but generally speaking

1135
01:23:36,440 --> 01:23:43,320
enthusiasts are males um if you look at your analytics of your channel you know

1136
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:44,960
that but um but anyway yeah it's it's

1137
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:49,199
they've made been making decisions the whole way that have been Mass Market

1138
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:53,280
decisions where they want to reach consumers who they don't care if they

1139
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:57,080
were previously their consumers they're always targeting

1140
01:23:55,000 --> 01:24:00,880
uh new users even though their loyalty numbers have traditionally been been

1141
01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:05,719
incredible but one of the things just regarding development that Still Remains

1142
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:10,639
to be um that there that where their dominance is is in getting people to pay

1143
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:14,800
for apps yeah because because on the Android side as many downloads as are

1144
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:19,600
going on and as as many developers are focusing in that area you'll see an app

1145
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:24,600
that costs $4 on iOS and the developer has to give it away for free with ads on

1146
01:24:21,719 --> 01:24:29,639
on the Android side because the user base has a different mentality regarding

1147
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:35,760
uh you know the the purchasing of an app um the App Store claims to have uh the

1148
01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:42,159
largest database of credit cards of any e-commerce site uh next to next to

1149
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:45,600
Amazon so tell me this will a cheap

1150
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:47,719
phone turn that around will it will we

1151
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:52,159
be attracting more cheap skates to the iOS platform who aren't willing to pay

1152
01:24:49,679 --> 01:24:57,280
for an app because um it was actually I I was T I was on a message board for for

1153
01:24:54,639 --> 01:25:01,480
an app that I absolutely love air video it's awesome it's iOS only because the

1154
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:05,239
developer basically came out and said in this thread uh we don't give any cares

1155
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:11,080
about Android because we're not convinced any of those users will give us any money whereas we have a very

1156
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:16,199
healthy business supporting iOS developing this iOS app that we believe

1157
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:21,800
is the best in the market and it really is it's so much better than anything

1158
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:23,480
else it's smooth it's perfect um and we

1159
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:29,719
are going to stick with that because this is the horse that got us here do

1160
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:32,800
you think that creating a cheapo iPhone

1161
01:25:29,719 --> 01:25:35,600
or like a value iPhone will erode that

1162
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:41,280
premium mentality that an that an iOS user has and that willingness to

1163
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:43,239
pay um I mean there's there's obviously

1164
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:48,119
the potential for it but it's hard to imagine that an end user would walk home

1165
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:52,159
with a new iOS device I mean even if that's an iPod Touch for that matter and

1166
01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:56,840
not launch into the app store and see what's hot on the charts I mean that's

1167
01:25:54,400 --> 01:26:01,360
just the next thing that you do I see kids who have iOS devices and their

1168
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:05,280
parents credit cards are hooked up to them because it's it's a payto playay

1169
01:26:03,239 --> 01:26:11,119
type ecosystem you know we've had a lot of problems like that recently there was

1170
01:26:08,119 --> 01:26:12,840
there was that Mom who had like a $6,000

1171
01:26:11,119 --> 01:26:17,480
charge on a credit yeah because of the in inapp purchases yeah it was a kids

1172
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:21,440
game and they kind of shrouded that they were really purchases to make them like

1173
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:25,600
an adult would be like okay this is a purchase but it was slightly shrouded

1174
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:30,080
and it wasn't big complicated process to buy something so the kids just whatever

1175
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:33,760
yeah yeah and there's like a class action I think on that particular app

1176
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:37,679
against that particular app but yeah it's there you you boot into the iOS

1177
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,800
ecosystem and you realize pretty quickly that if you're going to participate in

1178
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:44,280
any meaningful way you need to connect the credit card and that just doesn't

1179
01:26:42,679 --> 01:26:49,360
happen when you boot into the Google Play

1180
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:52,080
Store yep you know so whether the device

1181
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:55,800
is cheaper or not if you want to utilize it you you kind of that's just the

1182
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:59,960
approach they've taken all right well that's uh that's a

1183
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:03,159
very interesting take on it and I don't I don't disagree actually I guess we'll

1184
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:09,159
have to see what happens because the reality of it is iPhone 4 has been

1185
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:10,880
available as a value option for Z with

1186
01:27:09,159 --> 01:27:14,840
contract at least here in Canada for a while yeah and and they've continued to

1187
01:27:13,239 --> 01:27:20,719
sell a ton of them still a great phone I'm you know I

1188
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:24,719
love the HTC1 but I if I had to go back to using my iPhone 4 today I Wouldn't

1189
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:29,080
Die I'd be fine no and yeah and there are there are

1190
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:32,719
certain things that you I mean on both sides on both platforms that each one

1191
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:36,080
does better than the other it's just it's not a very clear argument that

1192
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:40,040
particular one it's what I hate getting into that argument probably more than

1193
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:43,520
any other and I probably run into it more than any other the whole iPhone

1194
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:48,320
versus Android all right well thank you so much

1195
01:27:46,119 --> 01:27:55,000
for joining us um do you want to do a quick plug for your channel before you

1196
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:57,760
go oh sure yeah um so I'm available uh

1197
01:27:55,000 --> 01:28:03,159
unbox therapy on Twitter or youtube.com/ unbox therapy and yeah I make videos

1198
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:07,600
about consumer products and talk about consumer products and so if you want to

1199
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:12,000
check out more then that's the place to do it or anyone who thinks we're

1200
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:16,679
competitors guys that is uh totally ridiculous we even cover the same

1201
01:28:14,119 --> 01:28:21,880
products sometimes but it's a very different style from what we do here

1202
01:28:19,679 --> 01:28:26,040
yeah for sure no we're we're all cool I mean um it's really I think it's really

1203
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:30,040
valuable to connect with people of like mind in this in this space just because

1204
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:34,760
it's so new and moving so quickly that um having success depends on it all

1205
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:40,280
right thanks so much Lou I really appreciate you joining us and thank you

1206
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,280
very very much for

1207
01:28:41,639 --> 01:28:49,639
joining all right I think he's gone so guys remember our live guests every week

1208
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:54,320
are brought to you by Razer comms go ahead and click the link that I'm

1209
01:28:51,119 --> 01:28:55,880
leaning down here next to uh oh oh I

1210
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:59,320
went and moved xplit got no idea where the link is right there that link if you

1211
01:28:57,639 --> 01:29:03,480
want to wh right there if you want to try Razer comms for yourself remember

1212
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:08,679
guys if you use this particular bit.ly link it helps us out a great

1213
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:11,719
deal just before we jump into the Twitter Blitz um because I'm assuming

1214
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:18,800
that yeah we're going to do a Twitter blitz so guys hit us on Twitter right

1215
01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:22,960
now I wanted to jump onto our seemingly

1216
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:24,360
weekly EA news oh I know right poor EA

1217
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:32,760
here let me bring let me bring this this up cuz it's just like it's terrible as

1218
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:36,560
usual it's find it yeah is this is this

1219
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:39,760
the one oh no yeah there we go boom Oh

1220
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:41,679
EA I don't even like the the thing is

1221
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:46,880
everything that we talk about is newsworthy I know it just happens to

1222
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:54,320
always be them so the original Madden programmer wins 11 million in a lawsuit

1223
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:57,600
against EA and the worst part is H EA

1224
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,600
this is just the tip of the

1225
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:06,960
iceberg brutal oh

1226
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:09,480
yay so basically he developed Madden for

1227
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:13,679
MS DOS Commodore Apple 2 like a long time ago and has an

1228
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:18,080
agreement with them where they have to pay him royalties for every release on

1229
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:21,400
derivative Works which basically amounts to anything with Madden in the title

1230
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:28,719
yeah and they've been releasing Madden games for well since then yeah so and as

1231
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:33,520
far as I know they haven't ever paid out I don't think they have ever paid out I

1232
01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:39,560
I don't know why he waited so long but as of now they owe him a lot of money so

1233
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:42,080
basically the Court's ruling um so hold

1234
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:48,440
on so the $11 million has been awarded for games it looks like prior to

1235
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:53,040
1996 the Court's ruling also gives antick the ability to pursue the same

1236
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:58,800
claims against EA for games released after 199

1237
01:30:54,679 --> 01:30:58,800
where revenues exceed $3

1238
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:07,320
billion so maybe that is the answer maybe the trick is find your un employer

1239
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:11,760
who's stupid enough to sign a royalty deal build something for them with a

1240
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:15,119
clause about derivative works I mean honestly the fact that EA signed

1241
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:21,320
anything to do with royalties for derivative works is insane they probably

1242
01:31:17,159 --> 01:31:23,480
forgot this was so long ago like so

1243
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:29,719
incredibly long ago they probably just forgot the fact that anyone at EA was

1244
01:31:26,199 --> 01:31:33,719
ever stupid enough to sign anything like

1245
01:31:29,719 --> 01:31:36,239
royalties for derivative works is just

1246
01:31:33,719 --> 01:31:39,760
that's not that surprising oh come on now they made Sim City online

1247
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:46,320
only okay but I mean at least there's a

1248
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:50,960
rationale there I mean maybe the rationale for him was that they didn't

1249
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,840
want to pay him very much money um so

1250
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:57,280
they just kind of signed whatever they did I mean some of the best movie deals

1251
01:31:55,679 --> 01:32:01,639
have been on ones where the film wasn't expected to do very well so the you know

1252
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:09,119
principal actor says okay well just give me 1% of the revenue and it's like yay

1253
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:12,440
payche yeah yeah so I think he doesn't

1254
01:32:09,119 --> 01:32:15,239
have to work anymore at any rate yeah no

1255
01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:18,920
although if he developed it for Doss Commodore and Apple

1256
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:23,600
2 he might be around that not working any more range already yeah but now he

1257
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:28,400
gets to not work and sit on a boat sort of

1258
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:29,880
like high class baller yeah with like a

1259
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:34,080
pool full of ladies that are just there because you

1260
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:36,400
know they could hang out there cuz it's a nice

1261
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:44,119
boat all right so let's go oh my gosh 84

1262
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:46,400
new interactions on Twitter and uh let's

1263
01:32:44,119 --> 01:32:51,600
go ahead and hit that would you rather buy a 3770k or a

1264
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:54,560
3820 uh I'd probably go 3770k how about

1265
01:32:51,600 --> 01:33:01,440
you why 3820 I don't know probably 37 do you

1266
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:03,239
need 64 gigs of RAM no okay uh what are

1267
01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:07,560
yours and Slick opinions on The Cooler Master quickfire TK any alternatives at

1268
01:33:05,719 --> 01:33:12,520
the same price point that you like so the TK is I believe the uh the sort of

1269
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:17,199
10 keyless one if I recall correctly TK stands for 10 keyless so there is the oh

1270
01:33:15,480 --> 01:33:20,560
wait hold on which one's the one that has the arrow keys integrated into the

1271
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:25,920
number pad I don't remember exactly what it's called but I'm pretty sure that one's just the 10 key list oh okay in

1272
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:30,679
that case it's fine it's a Cooler Master mechanical keyboard it's a h i don't

1273
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:35,400
really name of it uh your opinion on the razor

1274
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:39,840
Hammerheads uh I haven't tried them yet mine actually arrived in the mail like

1275
01:33:37,239 --> 01:33:43,280
two three days ago so it's much to my embarrassment that I haven't had a

1276
01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:47,880
chance to try them yet but I'm extremely stoked to check them out and uh I've

1277
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:52,480
heard that they're quite Bassy so I can already say that I they're probably not

1278
01:33:49,480 --> 01:33:55,040
my favorite thing in the world but my

1279
01:33:52,480 --> 01:34:00,600
understanding is for for $49.99 they're actually not bad the uh the overview on

1280
01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:03,400
a NCH was pretty positive cool do you do

1281
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:08,040
you recommend Cher MX red switches not really some people do like them uh David

1282
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:13,000
fitzpatricks have you ever considered delting a processor I was actually the

1283
01:34:10,199 --> 01:34:18,560
first one to ever delit an x6800 extreme Edition so there you go yes I have I

1284
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:22,679
don't really recommend it though and no I haven't because I don't yeah whatever

1285
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:26,880
I haven't used the audio engine A5 Plus speakers unfortunately

1286
01:34:25,239 --> 01:34:29,960
that's that's one of the problems especially with audio equipment is like

1287
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:33,679
recommending it before you've tried it is kind of sketchy yeah it's better to

1288
01:34:32,119 --> 01:34:39,119
just not I've heard great things about it it's one of those things I've heard

1289
01:34:35,239 --> 01:34:40,840
of but Apple equals new EA no nothing

1290
01:34:39,119 --> 01:34:49,159
Apple does is as stupid as anything that EA does I don't like apple I would not say

1291
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:51,199
that yeah exactly you know what speaking

1292
01:34:49,159 --> 01:34:55,239
of Apple our our story you know what we're going to come back to Twitter

1293
01:34:52,360 --> 01:35:00,400
Blitz after cuz I wanted to get into Samsung being the

1294
01:34:57,719 --> 01:35:07,159
largest consumer or most profitable consumer electronics company now so

1295
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:09,320
where did that go it's somewhere there

1296
01:35:07,159 --> 01:35:14,159
was three of it I think at one point in time did we all oh here it is did we all

1297
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:17,679
put it in the dock yeah so I had to try and clean it up that dock was incredibly

1298
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:21,520
messy actually all right so there you go Yahoo news in the second calendar

1299
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:25,360
quarter of this year Samsung stole Apple's long-standing title with

1300
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:33,360
quarterly profit of 8.3 billion compared to Apple's 6.9

1301
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:35,239
billion so that that is news and that's

1302
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:40,679
fascinating so 71 million units of smartphones compared to Apple's 31

1303
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:42,520
million but what I want to launch into

1304
01:35:40,679 --> 01:35:50,719
with this is are we really going to start calling Apple a new EA when

1305
01:35:45,480 --> 01:35:50,719
they're making 6.9 billion in a

1306
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:59,400
quarter I mean this is is where that mentality that if a business isn't

1307
01:35:56,719 --> 01:36:03,719
growing exponentially you know like that uh that curve or that or that hockey

1308
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:10,119
stick if a business isn't doing that then it's a failure apple is not a

1309
01:36:06,679 --> 01:36:12,239
failure yet they are a long way away

1310
01:36:10,119 --> 01:36:19,239
from being a failure they made $6.9 billion dollar selling half as many

1311
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:24,199
units of smartphones as Samsung their business is extremely profitable and

1312
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:29,520
extremely lucrative and they have cash cash cash to develop whatever New

1313
01:36:27,119 --> 01:36:33,840
Concept as long as someone shows up over there with the vision to make it happen

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01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:39,880
that they want to and like it's going to take so long to for them to fall if they

1315
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:44,600
do fall like it will take an incredibly long amount of time because their

1316
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:47,239
coffers are huge they have so much money

1317
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:51,639
it's insane and they still will have a cult likee following of people somewhere

1318
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:55,760
that will continue to buy their products so they will continue to exist even if

1319
01:36:54,080 --> 01:37:01,159
they're much smaller and much more Niche remember they've done this before y

1320
01:36:58,440 --> 01:37:05,280
they've become Niche and by becoming Niche they have blown up yes because

1321
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:09,360
that happens sometimes as you'll see they become Niche and then all the professional people start using them and

1322
01:37:08,239 --> 01:37:14,320
then they blow up they could do that again and if at some point they figure out how to appease their professional

1323
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:18,480
users again that would be a very so Tim Cook if you're watching right now

1324
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:21,960
appease your professional users because they advocate for you they're dropping

1325
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:27,760
off uh like I mentioned last week Freddy Wong released a big thing about how he's moving to PC well final final Cut's a

1326
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:33,280
disaster now people are moving over to Adobe and Premier ain't perfect but

1327
01:37:30,679 --> 01:37:39,080
final Cut's a total disaster and Adobe has figured out how to get people to pay

1328
01:37:35,639 --> 01:37:41,119
for Creative Cloud holy crap we're

1329
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:46,280
paying for Creative Cloud they've kind of gone okay let's tie together enough

1330
01:37:43,159 --> 01:37:49,560
value ad Services we are going to make

1331
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:52,239
this a package in much the same way that

1332
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:56,280
office revolutionized word processing and you know power point and Excel see

1333
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:58,800
you hardly I can hardly even remember what those programs are called if I

1334
01:37:57,599 --> 01:38:02,800
don't call them word excel and PowerPoint anymore but that is what it

1335
01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:06,480
looks like adobe's doing with this Suite of products that's going to be getting

1336
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:12,679
more and more tightly integrated with every generational Improvement so come

1337
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:17,920
on Apple sort of rooting for you here sort of I'm not but they can still do it

1338
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:22,599
um are am I using Chrome remote desktop on your laptop no I'm not I'm using an

1339
01:38:20,119 --> 01:38:27,960
HDMI capture device but that would be a phenomenally cool way of doing

1340
01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:31,599
this uh about YouTube Subs I couldn't even find that twitch was running until

1341
01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:37,159
I actually checked the web page can one of you explain what a

1342
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,159
gaming keys are used

1343
01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:44,760
for I3 plus 650 TI or I5 with 6509 TI

1344
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:49,400
I'd go I3 with 650 TI what about you depends on his use case but yeah

1345
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:55,440
probably what monitors do you each use I'm using some ancient Ben Q thing but I

1346
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:59,280
have two ASUS pb278 so 27 in 2560 by

1347
01:38:55,440 --> 01:39:02,840
1440s inbound I have pa48 Q's so we both

1348
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:04,159
use auss um IPS panels I really although

1349
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:09,280
at that same point in time if you're going for a cheaper IPS panel LG makes a

1350
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:14,040
lot of really good IPS panels that are cheap Acer has some really nice IPS

1351
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:16,880
Cheapo monitors these days so just like just because we use ASUS monitors

1352
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:20,239
doesn't mean that's all you should go for with the Xbox One and PS4 both being

1353
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:24,360
AMD based do you think there will be more games optimized for an AMD based

1354
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:30,440
system no um is Haswell good enough for PC gaming

1355
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:32,679
yes 300 a.m. watching The W show all

1356
01:39:30,440 --> 01:39:36,080
right I saw that EA article knew you guys were going to mention it

1357
01:39:36,119 --> 01:39:40,880
e love it would a 660 be good for 1080p

1358
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:44,080
gaming it would be okay I wouldn't expect it to last a real long time

1359
01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:49,199
especially with new consoles launching they're so cheap now though have you seen the price drops on them people are

1360
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:55,960
getting them for like incredibly low amounts of money all right 7970 Matrix

1361
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:58,360
edition versus gtx780 GTX 780 tasty PC

1362
01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:03,960
has actually declined I haven't reached out to Corsair George yet but that's a

1363
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:08,199
great idea and I really want to do that and JJ will be joining us next week yep

1364
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:12,040
Corsair George is a great idea that's a great idea I really like George he's

1365
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:14,760
awesome I love the new format of the live stream seems much more professional

1366
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:19,639
and fluid except for that bit where we couldn't get Lou's uh mic going thanks

1367
01:40:17,199 --> 01:40:22,840
to Windows automatically adjusting the S yeah I was like people can hear him but

1368
01:40:20,679 --> 01:40:25,960
he's low I know that's bizarre right yeah I know that's a thing that happens

1369
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:30,280
I just never really thought about the process because it's lowering xits

1370
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:33,440
volume which shouldn't really yeah do you have Maximus six formula in the mail

1371
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:38,320
not yet although I should probably bug JJ about it because I'm really excited about bu about it all in the live stream

1372
01:40:36,199 --> 01:40:44,119
so he has all that pressure yeah so he has no choice but to send us a Maximus 6

1373
01:40:40,679 --> 01:40:48,199
formula uh those won't fit in my case

1374
01:40:44,119 --> 01:40:50,040
okay then get something else NHD 14 or

1375
01:40:48,199 --> 01:40:55,480
Silver Arrow what are some cool things I can fill my PCI slots with sound card

1376
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:59,880
yeah get a sound card you can still get a lot of PCI sound cards you can get a

1377
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:02,000
zoner sdx PCI you know what there's not

1378
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:07,480
much to put in an expansion slot these days I have a sound card and a raid Card

1379
01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:13,840
Sound raid video Yeah USB expansion ah yes so this is for

1380
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:18,840
the system for Mr Wizard one of our administrators on the Linus Tech tips

1381
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:21,119
Forum um we uh we arranged for him to

1382
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:25,360
get a six Core Extreme Edition 980x system the one problem with that system

1383
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:30,040
is didn't have an internal usb3 header to run to the usb3 front panel Port so

1384
01:41:28,199 --> 01:41:35,080
we picked up this Silverstone card what was it 30 bucks it it was like I think

1385
01:41:32,679 --> 01:41:40,080
20 or 25 but then with shipping and taxes and everything it became p e Gen 2

1386
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:43,800
it's good should be able to get full bandwidth no it's like it's a nice card

1387
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:47,440
silverstone's that company that just doesn't get enough credit for the cool

1388
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:51,400
stuff they do because other companies have made these but one thing I found

1389
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:57,199
about this is is it had everything yeah the had everything and the external

1390
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:59,599
ports yeah and like oh yeah yeah

1391
01:41:57,199 --> 01:42:03,679
Silverstone they just I wish they would mark it better it's like what Lou was

1392
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:08,560
saying where at the end of the day this can be the best USB expansion card on

1393
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:12,719
the market and if Silverstone doesn't figure out how to make people desire it

1394
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:17,239
with whether it's a flashy campaign or whatever else no one will ever know yeah

1395
01:42:15,639 --> 01:42:21,840
cuz my my computer that I hauled the lands it's an old 775 platform that

1396
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:27,320
still performs fairly well but the case has usb3 on it and it's just a dead Port

1397
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:30,719
because I can't now that I've seen this I'm kind of like oh if I buy one of

1398
01:42:29,199 --> 01:42:33,920
those that could really bring some buy one of those and an SSD that could

1399
01:42:32,599 --> 01:42:40,560
really breathe life back into that system but you hadn't even heard of the bloody thing up till now NE neither of

1400
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:42,639
us had neither knows like it's cool that

1401
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:46,000
it exists but I'd never actually I'd never needed one so I'd never looked for

1402
01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:50,280
one and no one has ever told me anything about it because no one seems to

1403
01:42:48,199 --> 01:42:54,080
care okay well we should probably do build of the week because we've been

1404
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:59,119
streaming for an hour and half already over sure so bring it on builds of the

1405
01:42:57,119 --> 01:43:03,840
week we've got three this week actually because a certain user on our Forum

1406
01:43:01,599 --> 01:43:08,280
keeps on getting in here but I can't leave him out because his builds are too

1407
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:11,560
good so I didn't want to like just have it so every time he build something

1408
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:15,360
someone gets knocked off a build of the week so I threw him in there on the end

1409
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:20,639
not because he isn't deserving but because he's already been in twice okay

1410
01:43:18,639 --> 01:43:25,080
so we'll we'll see when we get there so just so you guys know builds of the week

1411
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:28,679
and are in the build log section of the Forum you can check them out there and

1412
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:33,199
in the lonus news and ramblings or whatever section I'm going to post our

1413
01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:36,280
entire W show document so you can click any of the links of any of the articles

1414
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:41,520
that we were discussing and all that good stuff so let's switch over here and

1415
01:43:38,639 --> 01:43:45,360
boom Arc underwater so this is by fail wheeel Drive I see a lot of people do

1416
01:43:43,480 --> 01:43:49,520
green builds but I don't necessarily see a lot of people do green builds that

1417
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:53,440
well this it just looks super sharp he had to do a couple custom cuts I know he

1418
01:43:51,400 --> 01:44:02,199
had to do some custom cuts to his OD uh bay fit in radiator yeah so just super

1419
01:43:57,719 --> 01:44:04,159
sharp super clean and I love this it's

1420
01:44:02,199 --> 01:44:07,239
build like this like I I try and pick the best picture I possibly can but you

1421
01:44:05,719 --> 01:44:12,080
guys really need to go to the Forum and check out the thread because he has a

1422
01:44:09,639 --> 01:44:16,760
ton of really nice photos and it doesn't justify it to be in one picture right

1423
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:20,960
okay um so so please go check this guy's build out it's awesome that is gorgeous

1424
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:24,960
look at this look at this great pump res combo he's got going on here that makes

1425
01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:29,080
it extremely clean you've eliminated a couple of components he's got it uh

1426
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:33,880
right looks like it's bolted to the radiator very nice really really clean

1427
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:37,280
build looks really sharp and he did Green well which really like I know I

1428
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:41,320
already said that but green can look kind of tacky sometimes and I like the

1429
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:45,719
the color that he picked for it and everything now this one I picked an

1430
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:49,480
interesting angle for the picture but you'll notice immediately why I picked

1431
01:44:47,719 --> 01:44:54,440
that there's window in the top there's a window in the top there's it the whole

1432
01:44:51,560 --> 01:45:01,480
color of the theme is very Dusty interesting so he's gone with a saber to

1433
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:04,080
or rather a a tough series AMD board by

1434
01:45:01,480 --> 01:45:07,040
the look of things is that what that is or no as he colored the heat sinks what

1435
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:11,679
is this he's done a lot of stuff he's cut

1436
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:16,000
the back out here on the on the on the uh right side panel he's actually

1437
01:45:13,639 --> 01:45:19,760
printed Tomb Raider in big printing which looks really good he went with the

1438
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:23,400
red and black text which I think was actually a good idea because that's how

1439
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:27,320
it is in their logo although it suit the build better if it was all black now

1440
01:45:25,679 --> 01:45:30,480
again please go look at this guy's thread because you can get other angles

1441
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:35,119
I had to show that top window cuz that's so cool but if you can actually get in

1442
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:38,520
there in the computer you can see his color theming on everything and it's

1443
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:41,920
awesome look at that he got right to the edge with that top window that's very

1444
01:45:40,239 --> 01:45:47,000
unique I've never seen anything quite like that super super cool you know what

1445
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:53,760
probably my favorite modded build is ever also kind of window related someone

1446
01:45:49,639 --> 01:45:56,920
did uh do you remember the p12 SE

1447
01:45:53,760 --> 01:46:01,080
that mirror finish antech case someone

1448
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:03,920
got a a two-way mirror and did a a side

1449
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:07,960
panel window on it that if the lights inside were off was a mirror and when he

1450
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:15,880
turned on the lights inside you could see all the internal components it was for sale on like Red Flag deals or

1451
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:17,960
something and I was like going to buy it

1452
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:23,639
has a case like that now it's like 700 bucks though oh wow now SNF this is the

1453
01:46:21,719 --> 01:46:27,119
guy who's been here a few times wow his builds are always amazing I

1454
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:33,159
can't leave the mod of build doogs of the week but then I don't really want them to take over other people's chances

1455
01:46:31,119 --> 01:46:37,760
again tons of different angles i p I chose this one because it shows the

1456
01:46:34,719 --> 01:46:41,400
intricate intricacy of his tubing

1457
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:44,119
because that's insane wow that is just

1458
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:49,400
unbelievable the planning that goes into this nice straight runs always look so

1459
01:46:46,679 --> 01:46:53,360
much better than curved runs it's just the

1460
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:56,159
truth and like he he

1461
01:46:53,360 --> 01:47:02,360
he made a custom label for his SSD and a custom label for his power supply that

1462
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:06,760
both go with the purple Chimera theme

1463
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:08,800
wow super nice yeah that's outstanding I

1464
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:13,639
I've heard through multiple channels that he had to sell this one which is

1465
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:16,960
unfortunate but I mean and like the graphics card looks super nice you got

1466
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:21,040
but you got to see it from the other side so definitely again check out this

1467
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:26,679
thread on the Forum and yeah build doogs week this

1468
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:28,199
week pretty freaking cool yeah that was

1469
01:47:26,679 --> 01:47:34,599
uh that was quite the Run of awesome build logs this week all right guys I

1470
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:36,760
think that pretty much wraps it up thank

1471
01:47:34,599 --> 01:47:40,119
you for tuning in to the L show this week guys uh stay tuned for the

1472
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:47,119
Afterparty although it might be a bit of a shorter version of the Afterparty

1473
01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:48,639
and is that it thanks for watching yeah

1474
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:53,480
hopefully I didn't embarrass myself too badly with that story at the beginning

1475
01:47:50,119 --> 01:47:56,710
do we have to do a outro

1476
01:47:53,480 --> 01:47:59,939
TR all right