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hacksmith Industries came over and we cooled a PC","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":1016.8,"end_s":1019.759,"text":"with fire","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1}],"full_text":"I just paid $300 us for this chunk machine from 13 years ago which is pretty good for an indestructible laptop indestructible you say you know what challenge accepted but before we test Keith's claims there's legitimately a lot to love about these things they're rated to withstand rain heat humidity freezing temperatures gild force winds and even gravity at least from a limited height and specifically when dropped onto a 2in thick piece of plywood which strangely specific if you think about it and also raises some interesting questions if these tests from the military standards test methods are so prescriptive do they really translate into better Real World durability and since they're strictly pass fail tests what kind of nonbreaking damage might occur to the device as we approach its limits can it surpass the testing limits in any major way while still being able to function well enough to open a Word document or a game or the segue to our sponsor origin PC configure your next gen gaming desktop or laptop and save big we're talking up to $900 off select laptops and up to $275 off select desktops those are big big not small numbers click the link below to see them given the specs of this thing not to mention it's Antiquated design I was very surprised to discover that the price I paid wasn't terribly out of line with the market and as it turns out Keith was right that there are Industries where people still love these machines and will pay dearly to replace them like construction law enforcement and agriculture which makes a ton of sense if you think about it if you only need a laptop that's powerful enough to do word processing small spreadsheets or basic web browsing your primary concern isn't going to be how many gigz it has but rather its ability to survive but how do we quantify who makes the most durable machine I mean you could just buy computers from everyone give them hell and see what happens but developing a consistent test methodology for that would be timec consuming expensive and completely unnecessary when the US military already did it for you given their tendency to use equipment in a variety of less than ideal conditions in 1962 the United States Air Force released the first version of military standard 810 environmental test methods for Aerospace and ground equipment the purpose was on its face simple create tests that ensure that devices will continue to function in the same environments where soldiers can function and were applicable make sure that they and the soldiers who rely on them won't blow up but that focused purpose has left some let's call them gaps in the methodology while mil standard 81 does encourage tailoring and it includes guidance to modify each test situation to make it more appropriate for the device and your use case it does still include guidelines that could make it easier for a less than robust product to pass take the drop test as an example of this it specifies that a device must be able to survive Falls of four five and six feet why do you guys think I needed a ladder to drop something from 6 feet okay it doesn't matter the point is that seems reasonable on the surface except that every drop gets done onto plywood that is exactly 2 in thick placed on top of concrete which is extremely specific and while it's supposed to be dropped 26 times at each height up to five samples can be used and those same five samples do not have to be used at each height of the drop test that means you get up to 15 Mulligans across 78 total drops meaning with some RNG luck you could have them break almost every five drops and still pass the spec as for our unit you can see it's still working after multiple takes of our 4-foot drop and to their credit Panasonic states that they use the same single unit for all 78 drops time to drive 5 ft but it's important to keep in mind that like other tests in the standard this is meant to and I quote provide a degree of confidence that the device can physically and functionally withstand the relatively infrequent non-repetitive shocks encountered in handling transportation and service environments uh Von can i b you for a sec so here hold on I actually have to open this's up have a look oh so in other words what I'm trying to say is it's not an invitation to use dropping your laptop down the stairs as a party trick Jesus scared me feel kind of bad giving her without even closing the lid but hey you don't pick when your laptop Falls uh stylus took the Brun to that one but the machine itself pretty much unscathed in other words these tests are designed to ensure that the item should work in the normal day-to-day operating conditions of the US Military and nothing more than that which has led to a significant amount of consumer confusion because these mil standard 810 tests have been used to tack dubious military grade will never fail marketing jargon onto everything from disappearing fighter jets to tacticool sunglasses and it gives people the wrong idea I mean some of the tests like the low temperature one that's running behind me only go down to -10° F about- 23 in real units which is warmer than the annual coldest day experienced at the military base in Min not North Dakota and warmer than a lot of days here in Canada now nonoperating tests are run at lower temperatures down to -60 fah but that doesn't validate that your system's going to work in a cow it only validates that it won't break in storage if you decide to keep it in your cryogenic freezer overnight how do you know it's cold uh I don't know uh maybe tou your T to it oh that'd be funny no don't do it don't do it didn't stick you can definitely tell she's cold though let's get a closeup of just showing the uh the touchscreen similarly the humidity test is fantastic if you want to make sure that a laptop will survive hot dank environments but as a non-operational test it won't actually tell you if you can build a spreadsheet in the Amazon rainforest it only tests if it can survive being stored at 95% relative humidity cycled between 86 and 140° F or 30 to 60 C it doesn't check if it can survive being used there did ours pass one sec should be pretty tropical in here woo oh it stinks I love this power button oh yeah I mean wasn't in there very long and that's not nearly as challenging as our next test okay so now we can set it to 60 look at that CPU is running at 77° playing back crab Rave and we're not even close to maximum temperatures yet and there it is given the way modern Electronics struggle even at room temperature I wouldn't be surprised if this thing is turned off I actually can't see it from here oh that's hot wow no way not only is she totally fine other than being pretty warm to the touch but it only went up another 6° so I guess those fans are just working wait there are no fans how does it cool this thing impressive now as a foreign civilian I'm not going to pass judgment on the process or the exact state of things at the moment but I do think it is fair to say that part of the reason for this inconsistency is that the standards documentation has ballooned to more than a thousand pages over the years as additional things get tacked on and if you want to know how or why certain tests were decided on you need to read an additional 200 plus pages from Herbert Eggbert's book the history and rationale of Mill standard 810 with a riveting title like that you know it's going to be a real page Turner anyway Keith has gotten to be right A lot of times in this video so far frankly I'm tired of it so I think it's time to go full smooth grain and prove that if we ditch the scientific testing and Go full unscientific this can in fact be destroyed here we go no no no I need 2 Ines of plywood we're not barbaran Ian here let's try 6t though the limits of the test spec oh that's hard to watch hey something popped off SD card slot PCM St really let's do it again totally fine how about with some Pizzazz oh no the strap nope not broken let's push it further how about 8 ft oh oh look at this crater in the plywood oh it was the other half of the stylus that was still stuck in the machine it's clear that gravity is not going to get us there how about our friend H2O ah oh the plumbing is everywhere how about some mood music wow we're losing so much okay well it doesn't matter the point is it's getting very wet with an ip65 water and dust resistance rating I wouldn't expect it to survive being fully submerged but I also wasn't really expecting it to just shrug off showers like this without skipping a bead oh know got to get the water out of the speaker so we can hear crab raay better this is amazing I hate the resistive trackpad when I'm just using it normally but when the thing's wet and the trackpad still works that's freaking awesome I know what the problem is it's got beefed up water Elemental resistance well I think we all know how to solve that yeah that's more like it wait oh no that's not even part of the mill standard we need to put it out quick the mud get it in the mud surely you guys knew this video was going to go off the rails at some point right I did not think this one oh my God is it still playing um did we get it oh my God the trackpad even works right now are you seeing this oh we melted the keyboard a little bit that may have been an error I think I know how to fix that if the opposite of water is fire then the opposite of fire is also water this will undo everything we just did surely oh yeah I mean that's good for the plumbing right ah oh it's hot is hot water closer to water or fire pristine here you go buddy are the speakers dead though this melted keyboard still Works look at it I've got to go I have badminton training in 15 minutes we need some more ideas oh wait I forgot we're not barbarians got to be on to 3 in of plywood boom stop come on all right we lost a battery stop you did not I may not have time to solve this right now I've got to go what the crap does this keyboard still work I went right over the keyboard stop it are you kidding me I got places to be did I get it she's finally dead sort of I only managed to kill the screen we'll figure that out tomorrow in the meantime I really do need to go uh here catch don't you hate it when that happens I completely misread the time I'm not due there for an hour let's find out if this thing works okay oh no no way I saw that screen flicker when I plugged in the display no it still works stop does that count it's still a functional computer dang it I have an idea let's put that I was about to say Dropout education to use that's what this hoodie that sweatsuit is called the Dropout lttu and then I dropped the thing doesn't matter the point is grab some goggles oh I got it well that was quick wait no that did nothing oh do you want to get a closeup for mine yeah go for it oh that one turns it off wait did we get it okay oh yeah she's dead oh she's quite um Smiley now so there Keith indestructible I think Not In fairness to him though it took a lot more effort to destroy this thing than even the military standards test for and when we asked our delre about any interesting stories that they might have around their rugged line of laptops they shared these photos with us of a Dell Latitude rugged extreme from a police cruiser that was shot with a rifle during a high-speed Pursuit I wouldn't call it bulletproof but it's certainly bullet resistant so if you're in the market for a laptop that can withstand the elements is it worth looking at how it fared in the military standards tests the answer is yes but also only sort of see it's not necessary for companies to use independent testing before they make claims of military grade endurance but many rugged device manufacturers not only do get their claims 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