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so this is a computer

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and not a weird low spec one or something that was designed and built

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from the ground up to bring linux to the

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folks who can't be bothered to compile their own kernel hunt down all the right

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repos or even build their own pc

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it challenges so many of my own assumptions about the linux community

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like for starters wouldn't anyone with the time and

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inclination to tinker around with linux also have the time and inclination to

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install it for themselves in the first place

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so it seems like the goal here is to make linux more accessible to normies

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so let's go through this together and i

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want to see your comments down below about what they got right

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and what they got wrong moss has updated their packs once again

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and in version four they've got a ton of changes making it a combination between

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their grande and their black pack buy it today at the link in the video

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description

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starting with the system 76 web store the goal was clearly to simplify the

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shopping experience they offer both amd and intel platforms with a huge amount

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of customization but they boil their thelio system offerings down to three

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models a good better best if you will with the system upgrades presented in a

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way that is simple but might actually bother many

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hardware enthusiasts for example the

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matte pro 27-inch ips display has no

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model number listed whatsoever and this

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30 terabyte hard drive is just six five terabyte hard drives with no

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indication as to how they're going to be configured prior to shipping now we're

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going to talk about our hardware config in a little bit but first as a non-linux

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user i want to poke around pop os a

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little bit when you first boot it is super easy to encrypt your data just

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enter a password and reboot that is pretty neat then when you come back

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you're given the opportunity to set up your online accounts for integration

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into the os including access to your google drive cloud storage right in the

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file manager now we've actually seen pop os before in our gaming on linux update

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video and one of its major departures from its

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parent ubuntu is popshop a ridiculously easy to use

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app store so it's actually ported over from elementary os but with one key

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value add system 76 curates their own

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packages so if you ever need something basic like steam for gaming or the

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latest nvidia drivers it's just a click away actually for your graphics drivers

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it's easier than updating them on windows

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the only real criticisms that we had were the lack of ui scaling by default

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on our 27 inch 4k display and the way

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that our secondary storage drive one that shipped in our system was kind of

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hidden away we think this should be front and center like the cloud storage

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is so hopefully they fix that soon as for if you need to fix anything you can

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access the popos recovery environment that lives on the boot drive by holding

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down space or escape during boot this is a full copy of the installation media

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meaning that you get a live environment to access and back up your files refresh

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your installation or even just nuke it and start over from scratch and this is

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all without needing a thumb drive now one fun idea is that you could actually

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use this recovery environment as a sort of

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super incognito mode that's separate from your main install if you were so

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inclined now on to the hardware our thelio is specked out with a ryzen 7

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2700x and a bunch of other good stuff so

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we threw both gaming and productivity workloads at it where it not only

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performed pretty well overall but in some cases outperformed windows and this

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is on literally exactly the same hardware now obviously our gaming

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results fell a little behind in some places but what's noteworthy here is

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that we're even running these games if you're not up on the latest in linux

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gaming news i don't blame you but valve proton enables a huge number of windows

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only games even ones that aren't on steam to run on linux now it is super

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cool onto productivity now right now for some workloads like

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video editing linux isn't a great time because the industry standard tools

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aren't available on the platform but for other things like color work and davinci

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resolve our system performed really well

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and in some cases absolutely crushed our

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windows performance numbers like check out these blender results if you if i

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didn't see it happen i wouldn't believe that they're on the same processor

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okay then so so far we've got good performance a

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relatively simple linux software implementation

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green light to buy then well hold on a second now we intended for

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this to be a review of the system but so

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far everything we've shown you can be installed on commodity hardware that you

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assemble for yourself so let's take a closer look at the box once you get it

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out of the shockingly nerdy packaging the most striking features of the thelio

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are its wood grain finish and its tantalizing silver power button and

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accompanying white led ring there's no sign of any front io to disrupt the

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clean design language they've gone with which means it's beautiful but also

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means unfortunately that we're stuck with what we've got on the rear and

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back here is interesting so more of that clean at any cost approach the i o is

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cut directly out of the chassis that means no simple motherboard upgrade

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although again it does make for an uninterrupted premium look that really

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screams apple even though when we pop the hood with these thumb screws we can

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see that this is clearly a standard pc motherboard on the inside what we can

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also see in here is they've done a pretty bang-up job with the cable management helped significantly by the

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generous real estate provided under the main fascia which doesn't attempt to

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seal the computer so much as it

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conceals that means that there is a bit of concern from our end about dust

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accumulation through the side panels and the potential for noise to sneak out

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from under the chassis using the air gap as an echo chamber unfortunately sure

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enough it does get a little loud when the fans are running full tilt and it's

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not just whooshing air noise something that we generally don't complain about

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rather it's a kind of droning wine that's a little bit harder to tune out

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honestly i think a noctua or a be quiet fan swap would help tremendously here

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because it seems to be that the arctic freezer 12 cpu cooler is making most of

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the racket and that might also help with thermals

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our ryzen 7 2700x stayed cool enough to prevent throttling but at 85 degrees

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under full synthetic load i would prefer something a little beefier as for our

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evga graphics card well that was right where we wanted it in spite of the

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diminutive size of our chassis despite its acoustic shortcomings though

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the interior of the thelio does carry the same level of polish and attention

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to detail as the exterior so the cpu cooler shroud is both stylish and

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practical pulling double duty as a guide for the cpu cooler's exhaust and as a

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bracket for mounting a chassis fan and similarly the gpu's retention bracket

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acts as a brace to protect board flex check this out too up top we've got this

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row of screws weird right well they're here for a reason this hot

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swap drive bay allows you to just push out this clip slide however many screws

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you need down the rail and then screw them into the drive line up plug in and

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it couldn't be simpler and you don't even need to worry about losing the box

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of case screws that was included with your system the only issue here is that you better

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forget about mounting a full size three and a half inch drive two and a half

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inch ssds and hard drives only

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also we haven't gotten to the coolest thing about this yet the case and all of

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its accompanying bits and pieces open source just like the operating system so

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there's literally a github page with the

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cad files for everything that you see here and for its bigger brothers the

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thelio major and thelio massive

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now that's not to say that every component in the system is open source

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the motherboard cpu ram video card storage devices and power supply are all

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proprietary in design with the ip owned by the individual companies that made

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them but system 76 says that they're

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developing their own firmwares wherever they can in order to make the hardware

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as open as possible something that they've already done with their laptops

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which are otherwise just standard clevo designs this openness comes at a cost

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though arthelio starts at eleven hundred dollars which sounds reasonable but

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that's a really basic config the spec we ended up with costs quite a bit more and

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with the standard warranty we came to just shy of twenty four hundred dollars

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when we compared that to specking out the exact same system components for

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ourselves minus the case our total came to one thousand dollars less

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woof so then case aside what are you getting

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for that thousand dollar difference well

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while the operating system itself may be free system 76 does have paid staff that

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actively develop their os and that's to say nothing of the user support

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commitments that come along with that perhaps most crucially though the thelio

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chassis manufacturer and final assembly are both done in colorado by a team

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that's about our size so no mass production

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system 76 says they want to improve this situation in the future but for now it

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means that the costs add up really quickly

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so to sum it up you're paying for the case u.s manufacture operating system

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development and support from a small team of enthusiasts

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now whether the design and concept of a well-integrated linux desktop is enough

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to make you pay the extra that's a choice i'll leave to you

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