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heck is going on um here do you want to scooch over this way a little bit I'm
not used to I'm not this is weird yeah I know it's the couch is kind of
uncomfortable on that side like it kind of leans you out of the
frame yeah this is why we can never quite okay see and this one because this
shoulder goes back away from the camera
get the spacing right is actually quite difficult so some of you may or may not
have picked up on this but I am supposed
to look like Paul from New Egg TV and he
is supposed to look like Kyle Kyle
or or po D your your resemblance to Kyle
is over 9,000 there we
go oh my goodness um apparently I really
do look bald yes I do I can even give you guys a closer look at it this oh
sorry my uh I got my sound on on my laptop here let's turn that off so this
side's not as good but this side is uh is like pretty bald looking she only had
about 50 minutes with me or maybe about
an hour an hour and a bit hour and 10 maybe uh so uh we we had a friend of
Brandon's come in and uh and make us up here just because this is it's part of
our it's part of our fundraising campaign for our new office you can find
it over at new office actually I should post this new office. linch tips.com
where we've got a bunch of other uh perks the more people contribute to the
campaign um so twitch or no it's which does include that Miner oil computer if
we yeah if we hit 50,000 raised for the
new office then uh we will actually be giving away the mineral oil PC that we
just built to one lucky viewer so guys check check that out we've got a bunch
of other campaign perks but as you can see we did reach the man show made up as
Paul and Kyle won we did our best to make him look like Kyle and uh I feel
like the result ended up we talked about this before the show went live but the
result ended up me being Paulie D to a certain degree and you are the principal
from Community I want to know if everyone else is like but like I think
that's basically spitting image if you put him in like some really weird
costume and then the the the like neck up is exactly the same looks like
principal from Community the twitch chat is just spazzing out mine's broken
unfortunately I wish um so yeah guys we've got a lot of great topics for you
today including but not limited to parrot's new bbop 1080p drone that looks
like parrot assertively going back after
that consumer grade drone Market that they kind of they've released a couple
productss and then they've been kind of stagnant in for a while well now they're
they're coming back with uh with some Gusto uh We've also got twitch you know
these guys like on my t-shirt twitch buys Alliance Evil Genius and team
Tinker so a the a broadcaster for
Esports like it's like ESPN owning a football team it it sort of is well hold
on we'll get we'll get into it later we'll get into it later what else we got
well we also have Intel IBM and Qualcomm speaking out against net
neutrality we will talk about that later also 103 fans all tested in the ultimate
fan showdown of all time it was over not
okay sorry I'm done it was over 103 actually no it was very specifically
103 it was over
102 they should have called it the 102 plus F Showdown totally should have over
102 fans
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wow wow that joke was so bad it hurt my
Hardware
yes that was completely unscripted and it was fantastic I love it all right so
let's uh let's kick things off with the 103 fan showdown shall we this was
posted by aing on the Forum I'm going to go ahead and share my screen with you
guys here and uh Luke do you want to do you want to take this one away there 23
scroll down a bit there was 23 uh companies worth of fans tested and 103
fans total they're all tested all the fans tested were 12 centim and on your
screen right now you can see the best performers in the different categories
obviously if you follow the The Source link through on that form hardware.info
guys yep um but these are kind of the oh
okay these are the like the winning contenders as of right now all right so
some of these categories really aren't that meaningful so noise level at 10 cm
it's like obviously some doofy 500 RPM
fan is going to win that because it's the
quietest I mean you you spin the thing faster and you get more noise from air
movement alone let alone just the the motor spinning um and then maximum airf
flow same thing you spin a thick fan I
mean these are I believe they're 35 mm thick fans Ultra Kaz uh 3,000 RPM fans
and then you spin it at 3,000 RPM like it's like I could make the highest RPM
fan I would just simply attach a jet
engine part of a plane there you go but there are some other very meaningful
numbers so power consumption doesn't really mean that much in the sense of
like oh I have to buy a higher-end power supply because my fans are not that
efficient but it does tell you a little bit about the efficiency of the motor
design which is definitely a strong indicator of goodness and then the other
really important ones are going to be your airflow on a radiator at 12 volts
and 7 volts and the winners there not that we were rooting for them and not
that had anything to do with this testing but that fan that we keep
recommending no to2 the one that we keep saying we put
this on radiators in our standardized testing and when I say radiator I don't
just mean liquid cooling radiator a CPU heat sink is technically a radiator radi
heat heat radiator um so noct nf12
Industrials won both air flow at 12 at
12vt and air flow at 7vt um now to be
fair some other pressure optimized fan designs don't spin at 3,000 RPM by
default and so this doesn't actually necessarily tell us how the regular n12
Stacks up against other similar stock RPM fans but you guys should definitely
check out the whole article because uh yeah it's some pretty there's so many
fans tested it's it's interesting but read reading more on it is a very good
idea yeah I would recommend following through with that one so I've been told
that due to my makeup I may not drink from my water bottle the way that I
normally I have to use a straw oh an
evil straw why does that make any sense do you have makeup on your upper lip I
well I have makeup on my lower lip but if you put it on top of your lower lip
yeah I I'm not a very good Drinker
anyway so so just drinking skill deficiency I'm sure
if someone looked back at enough W show archives they could find me pouring my
drink down my shirt I'm just there's so many of them that probably it's prob
happened at some point yeah yeah all right so this is looking pretty exciting
let's move into our next topic here the parrot bbop drone I'm going to go yeah
if you want to go ahead and throw that link in there let's go ahead and watch
the video because this thing looks B A
I'm not even super down with watching videos on Wow too often but this one
yeah this is looking pretty good so um it's got a processor in it that is eight
times more powerful than the AR Drone 2
it it has GPS so you can actually have it take off from a given location and
then land back there this footage that they're taking from the Drone is
unbelievable look how high it is yeah I mean the old AR Drones had these had
these height limitations that were just felt very consumer grade like very very
consumer grade but this this is something else I mean this is the kind
of footage that normally you'd have needed like helicop yes yes like that
you helicopter 100% unbelievable what else we got in terms of specs here so
okay there there's a few things that are going on there's that GPS navigation that you were talking about one thing
that I noticed when looking through their documentation on the actual site
if you well we've got the video running so talk later but when you're setting up
the GPS navigation um it looks like you
might be able to set the the elevation as well wow I'm not necessarily entirely
sure um but as there's different points that they've plotted on the map and
numbers on those points I'm assuming that's something to do with elevation uh
yeah altitude you can set altitude speed all this kind of stuff so you can set
the route speed in between your different dots then you can set the
elevation at those dots so it'll go at a different speed to that location really
cool because if you're trying to get a really specific shot you could set it
out and be like oh I want this one section to be a little bit slower I want a little bit higher of an angle and just
set it out again which is actually really cool for little kind of more like
amateur filmmaker people that aren't going to get a helicopter and look at
this control module got available for the iPad freaking love this thing so far
and compatible with first person view glasses that looked an awful lot like an
Oculus right there this is looking like some pretty cool stuff so it's can see
180° it records at 1080p for video and
can take 4K photos which is just no we
don't parrot we do not use K for photo
resolution that is not how this works but I appreciate the effort
nonetheless um what else we got here oh yeah okay so it supports mimo AC
Wireless so that's two dual band antennas uh so that can handle 2.4 GHz
and 5 GHz just like previous AR Drones
or drones or whatever parrot drones it generates its own 802.11 network so
that's how you can use uh your tablet or phone to uh to get a first person view
of where it's flying and this thing looks absolutely one thing that I really
liked when I saw this was very specifically that controller the GPS
plan and all that kind of stuff was kind of cool but I think everyone saw that coming one really big complaint that
I've had about a lot of parro products in the past is the fact that you're using like the touchscreen crap on your
mobile devices because it's just it's just kind of junk and like trying to
control something with this graphical based joystick is usually just really
frustrating to be completely honest and then with that new tablet control screen
kind of thing with it looked like joysticks on each side or of some sort
Maybe one of them was throttle or something um but just more granular
control with actual real controls and then just having more the networking and
the video and stuff going through the iPad I think makes a ton of sense yeah
that looks that looks fantastic so this was posted by aing on the Forum the new
Oppo R5 is so slim that it can't even
have a headphone jack so that is it next to what appears
to be an iPhone 6 or an iPhone 6 Plus or something along those lines uh so it is
basically the exact width of a micro USB
port no more no less it's 450 bucks
unlocked um so you will need to plug your headphones in via the micro USB
port on the bot bottom using the adapter that comes in the box now or Bluetooth
we've talked okay yes Bluetooth would also work now we've talked about micro
USB and how sure it's a perfectly good
connector rated at however many insertions but the problem is that if
you rate it at X number of insertions in a lab versus that doesn't have anything
to do with how people are actually going to treat it you shove it in your pocket it's going to torque you you plug it in
and then throw it on your bed and it's going to bounce on the cable torquing it
and then dropping the phone on like I don't know that many people that
actually treat their phone as well as they probably should including myself um
so there's more problems than that and now you want every time I plug my head
phones in and out you want me to plug it into the micro USB I mean $450 brick is
more like it because this thing is not going to be useful for anything and like
we constantly say on the show like iPhone why did you make it Slimmer it
didn't need to be Slimmer we would have rathered there wasn't a bump on the camera and had a bigger battery and
they're like oh yeah let's just release one that's just as Slim as the plug
that's awesome everyone wants a Slimmer phone and like well meanwhile all
consumers are like please don't make a thinner phone they're like oh no we got
this one of the things I like so much about the Droid Turbo is the fact that
it's it's C it fits in my hand yes my
hand is not is not this comfortable weight is a thing this is not a shape
for a hand I mean the hand in the picture is a shape for a hand the phone
is not a shape for a hand yeah um
hopefully that came across correctly if not I fixed it now I had
actually reached out to uh tupal and about potentially Skyping in I don't I
have no idea if they're like around
right now or or what but uh we can we
can see we can see if they're uh if they're
around all right so let's go ahead and move on to our next topic
here so oh no that's not it well that's
we're skipping over specs for the phone because it's dumb yeah we we don't we
actually don't care were people asking about that I don't know I just I had
this spec up and I was like uh um AMD released their Omega driver so
I'm going to go ahead and pull this up you want to post the link so what are
Omega drivers you might ask well a number of years ago I might have told
you that the Omega drivers were a set of alternate drivers available for both AMD
and NVIDIA that had a few extra options
enabled in them and uh you know some some customization and sometimes some
performance tweaks well no AMD no we're
no we do Omega drivers now the Omega driver is the first of a new
concept of drivers from AMD that according to my conversation with them
basically amounts to thorough testing of the driver um like really thorough
testing of the driver both internally at AMD and externally with a dedicated
feedback system where people could let them know about any bugs and fixing bugs
as quickly as they could as well as a
slew of new features so you can download
them assuming you have an AMD graphics card or an APU well you could still
download them you could still download them they would just not be very useful
yeah they would not be very useful but if you if you have the hardware that it
goes then it's very useful then it can be very useful so um you get support for
virtual super resolution which is similar to uh it it helps with stuff
like down sampling you can render at a higher uh res and then down sample
that's essentially what it is so basically super samping super sample
anti-aliasing which which is basically the same thing as NVIDIA's Dynamic super
resolution I don't know much about AMD's implementation yet like I know that
NVIDIA is applying a fil like a a smoothing filter to the finished image
um what I can tell you guys though is that you can't um say it's DSR and VSR
like AMD and NVIDIA can you either just
call it the same thing yeah which would be fine I don't think anyone would
really have a problem with that or just don't can you just
please so uh virtual super resolution only goes up to I believe it's 30 34
something by something something anyway NVIDIA is able to upsample or down
sample from 4K and AMD can't quite do that on the current Hardware because I
don't think this is something they had in mind it's something that they've added based on customer demand and based
on the performance that's available on the scaling Hardware on their processors
so it also adds 5K monitor support and I've heard from Dell
apparently we're going to be getting a sample of their 5K display oo nice oh
that's awesome I'm excited now cuz I want to see what you think about that
versus the iMac yeah so we can try that out uh my iMac thoughts might be oh no
we're going to be doing the hardware upgrade probably sometime next week and then I've already got most of my
thoughts compiled for my ey switched um
so that'll probably come the following week or something along those lines yeah
um it's got support for alien wear's graphic amplifier doodad thing that
plugs into the back of one of of their notebooks so you can use an external
Graphics whatever uh it adds some some video picture enhancements perfect
picture editions 1080p detail enhancement now for apus I I don't know
too many people who use those things I've never met anyone who's used any of
those not a single person um someone probably does somewhere let us know yeah
twitch chat we want to hear from you do you we should do a straw po yeah do a
straw let's hit it with a straw pole do you guys use the video playback
enhancements in your graphics card driver want to hear from you so there's
been some what oh you spelled it wrong
oh it's yeah P you're good right there
all right that wrong so frame pacing enhancements for AMD dual Graphics so
that's where you run a low-end graphics card and an APU in crossfire which
basically nobody should do because even
with frame pacing improvements the the
the the the cost to Performance compared to just buying a better graphics C you
know the number of people who put like I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to
go I'm going to go even worse than this
this episode of South Park that just ended the other day and I'm going to
reuse South Park's joke that they reused
mercilessly I'm going to say the number of people who post comments on my lowend
video cards rent it's just it's ignorant it's ignorant it's ignorant uh because
people are like oh lonus you didn't think that maybe people only have this
much to spend actually yeah I did what I said wasn't that a huge point of the
whole video yes it was what I said is $80 to spend is not the right amount to
spend you either spend another 20 bucks or you spend less it's just fine to have
a lower budget I think I may have even brought up or maybe it was just a
comment I posted in reply to the video that buying used Hardware is an option
and then people are like well what about offices they're not going to buy a bunch of used Hardware well they're not gaming
anyway so they should be buying not an $80 card they should be buying a $40 or
$35 graphics card basically whatever you can get that has output on it
yes because they're probably just doing that for more monitors all right what
else we got mantle API activated for ultimate performance in sidm
Civilization beyond Earth and uh Assassin's Creed Unity Dragon AG
Inquisition and Far Cry 4 performance enhancement so aside from
vssr um oh yeah that was the right one
that is a that took me a second that's a pretty big Improvement super sampling is
a big deal um other than that it looks like I mean we've used it we used it uh
I don't have any complted in the crew video y I didn't notice like a ton of
like I didn't install it and then this hair happened um but I didn't there was
no crashes or anything so like I I have no complaints about it which is which
good which is all there should that's what you want from a driver you don't
want to complain it should not get in your way yeah I don't want it to bug me
it didn't it didn't crash it that's perfect that's fine I yeah no complaints
I don't I don't have like extensive testing with it yet um but wow a lot
more people use it than I thought so were we just completely wrong and we
suck I don't know cuz wow oh no that's really not that many okay here we go
here we go guys so 20% is still way more than I thought okay you're you're right
20% is a lot more two or maybe zero
just that's like hanging in the frame here it's cuz normally I'm over there
yeah and you're a lot further from the camera this makes me look really
small it does I have to like you are sitting forward and I'm sitting see if I
sit like you then it's like all right
there hello all right so uh let's go ahead and
move on to our next topic then shall we yes I don't think I ever heard now the
now the yes vote is like flying upwards so I don't really know if I trust this
thing at all yeah you guys might I don't really think 25% of people are using the
picture improvements from AMD yeah especially given that they just added
them for some stuff so unless you've already grabbed the Omega driver and
then specifically was like look at these
pictures I don't know I don't believe you guys it's already up to 26% now
speaking of look at the pictures metal gear solid five has uh the first
gameplay footage shown so uh we can go
ahead and uh this was posted by olak King on the Forum um there is some good
news so the first thing that I personally noticed about this is look at
those settings options whatever these things are we can
adjust them
lots what those things on the side they have a lot of granularity to them yes
all right you know there's off low medium high extra high I'm liking this
I'm I'm okay with that yeah and then apparently you can run it at 3325 by
1871 if you want because
sure because sure that should be that should start
being like patch notes for certain games why did you guys patch it this way
because uh sure I know whatever um there
is a 60fps lock at least it's not a 30
FPS lock um yeah that's the only
positive thing we say yeah know seriously but like there's certain games
where it's like 30 FPS lock cannot be like edited through a text file game
physics yes yeah you go double speed if you unlock it or whatever crappa did
with Need for Speed um but like at least
it's 60 not 30 still stupid really
stupid but at least it's 60 not 30 I can't stop staring at myself in the
preview window over here I look so weird seriously have you ever watched
community no you like really look like the dean oh like okay let me give me all
right I'll do I'll I'll I'll fire our I'll head over to our next uh next topic
here so Metal Gear Solid 5 ground zeros will be uh available starting the 18th
of December 2015 that is kind of striking yeah like
he just doesn't have a goatee in this one right so if I just had no goatee and
I was a little paler yeah then I'd be uh I'd be pulling this off pretty well uh
speaking of games and release dates The Witcher 3 is delayed again this was
posted by joners on the Forum and this
is not the first time it's been pushed back now you know what's really funny
about this is uh CD project red came out
and kind of in a move that mocked I have
to I have to assume this was targeted directly at Ubisoft and EA um and in a
move that mocked those other two companies basically said yeah we're
going to include all of our launch day DLC in the game for
free I have and you know how EA and I'm
going to play devil's advocate here for a second um you know how EA and Ubisoft
always say well you know yeah launch day DLC blah blah blah it takes more time
etc etc hold on hold on I'm going somewhere
with this okay CD project red committed to include a bunch of stuff that the
other guys don't include till after
potentially and now their game is
delayed a oh they buy it off more than they
could chew to troll e no you just you just said they can they commit to
release it after they're releasing theirs now well yeah but that no no but
the game's not out so they so they're not releasing anything I'm I'm just I'm
just saying it's completely irrelevant doesn't matter saying I'm just saying if the two completely different situations
if if EA or Ubisoft were releasing them at at the release of the game it makes
more sense cuz Witcher like CD project red has released stuff after games were
released and still done it free I okay
that's why it I was just I was just having some fun no fun I don't want I
have to slam down I don't want to host a show with you anymore
Kyle I've never fired Kyle before this
is why I quit New Egg Paul this is
why oh too fun anyways I wish those guys
would reply to me so that uh so that I could hear I actually really wanted them
to come in cuz I want to see what their comments are on our costumes all right
so uh let's okay oh right were we going to say anything else about that so yeah
they're just saying yeah we knew it would be an ambitious game you know we wanted and still aim to give an
incredible experience an epic adventure in a vast open World um you know when we
released the most important game in our Studios history we must be absolutely
sure we did everything we could I was trolling them a little bit before
they're doing this for all the right reasons they're doing all the right
things delaying the product to get it right is worth it just like we delayed
mineral oil part four last night by about three and a half hours even
though it cost poor Nick any uh any sleep last night resemblance of sleep he
could have gotten so if you guys haven't watched it already come on you guys I
mean come on I watched it I love like
going back and watching certain videos like mineral oil because even though I
was in it I'm like oh this is cool that was fun and you know what the way that
those guys edit it together makes it a completely different experience again
it's pretty cool I liked it and we got a comment from huget systems on that video
saying that our our uh question answer section was really good and we obviously
know what we're talking about so like every when I read that I was like
yeah that's exactly who I wanted to hear that from yeah that's those guys know
their stuff that's awesome um so yeah guys everyone throw that in a tab and
watch it after the show yes when the show is
done what actually don't throw it in a tab throw it in another browser window
so that when the show is done you can you can all
tab oh we just wrecked the mic sorry
guys oh no all right so uh what's our
what's our next topic we got twitch buys Esports teams
oo okay so this was posted by official
JSP on the Forum original article here is from uh good game. you want to go
ahead and post this in the chat yes all right let's open up this let's open up
this link all right it's so weird being on this side of the coach I like don't
know how to do things cuz I'm used to like cranking my right ARM down so that
you can fit easily and then doing everything with my left hand now it's the other way around and I'm like I
don't know how to do this all right so this is an open letter from uh about
basically why why why sold to Twitch and
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah you know the issue to me
is not necessarily so okay right so uh
teams Alliance Evil Genius and team Tinker were acquired by twitch who is
now owned by Amazon and the issue here to me is not uh what a lot of people
will care about which I guess would be the perceived sell perceived selling out
of the teams the issue here to me is why does twitch need to own Esports teams
yeah okay and then there's there's the broadcaster argument which I saw a lot
of people bringing up which was like the ESPN owning a football team would
actually be a big issue one thing that isn't the same there is that you're
independently broadcasting using twitch's system instead of ESPN where they're
they're controlling what goes on the channel twich is controlling what goes
on the channel what I'm okay go ahead twitch is
controlling what goes on the channel but in a like content moderation aspect not
a like you don't get to stream cuz you're a competing team okay talk go
Dean they have a lot of control over exposure on their platform I mean okay
let's go back to let's go back to YouTube you could make the argument that
a lot of especially early YouTubers back when it was pretty easy to go
youtube.com front page like every time I got featured on the front page which has
been years by the way it's been a long time and I was a lot smaller then every
time that I front paged I got a massive
boost to my subscribers and Views and so
you could make the argument that a lot of the bigger YouTubes especially in the
early YouTubes YouTubers the YouTubes yeah we post our videos on the YouTubes
them YouTubes taking all the views from the TV you don't have a job you just do
the YouTubes um so a lot of the early YouTubers you can make the argument that
they got as big as they got because of the exposure from the platform and
twitch has a lot of control over
exposure to a given streamer or a given program I mean early on when we first
started streaming on Twitch we got a lot of feed through twitch's email
newsletter and through the front page that we otherwise would not have had if
we if we weren't kind of in their good books now twitch is in this position
where their main product that is to say
Gamers yeah who stream games is wholly
owned by them and I I get why that's good from a business standpoint so
Amazon has this fantastic infrastructure so you own your infrastructure and then
twitch has this fantastic platform um
like a social media platform and so you own your platform and then you own the
content itself that you're supposed to be promoting I mean this is starting to
look like a a little bit a little bit evil I mean obviously it's up to Twitch
to to prove to us that they're going to be responsible should pay a lot of
attention look at what's on the front page uh if that guy organically got
there that's fine but pay attention to his growth if he starts streaming and
then he has like a couple hundred people watching him and then all a sudden it
goes front page then a whole bunch of people swim in all at the same time it's
not like he gets actually more than the people on the front page and then gets
moved to the front page then that's a little fishy so I mean the good news is
that the players are all getting taken care of at least to the extent that it
seems like Esports players can get taken
care of it seems like you kind of turn 22 and then you're trash and you might
as well you could either become a coach or you go get a real job it's slightly
less of a thing slightly less of an issue but it's still definitely a thing
still an issue yep yep we're starting to see older people in the scene but a lot
of times they're more like um
figurehead I guess like white raw is awesome but when was the last time you
saw white raw like win a tournament I say that but I'm not sure because I
don't watch like at all no I don't think he's I don't think he's really active anymore although I'm he's active he
plays yeah okay right okay but like I
shouldn't have said active wasn't the right I should have
said doing things oh you know what's
funny is we we have okay I love tell you what remind remind me to do this I have
like a white raw headset downstairs and
I'll wear my white raw headset on the next W show or something make make up
for being a jackass sorry dude um so and
he's a lot bigger than me so um so anyway every player currently
contracted um with good game is going to
get small portion of the company's sale I'm assuming that's going to be a pretty
small portion um additional benefits for the player since they're becoming an
Amazon subsidiary yeah and um yeah I
guess there's not too much else to say about it I I do have a lot of concerns I
I the thing about twitch is now that they're owned by Amazon like let's let's
not kid ourselves twitch is already making bank pre- Amazon acquisition they
are they are doing like there's a reason they had Amazon's attention and they
sold for as much money as they did um
twitch now with Amazon's resources could be in a position to buy every orts team
yep honestly a lot of Esports teams like
raw just Esports teams don't even necessarily make a ton of money um
that's one thing that I think some people don't really realize they'll win a tournament and then people are like oh
my God they're so baller they won $250,000 prize it's like when there's
like five people that were at that tournament probably more players on the
team administrators coaches all this kind of stuff the chance that they won
that tournament is relativ team that they live that they live in they get
money from sponsorships and it's not a trivial amount of money either but the
point is that most it's it's kind of like you know what it's kind of there's
some teams that will make tons of money and be super successful but there's a
large amount of teams that aren't making a great and it's like pro athletes where
we go professional hockey players make too much money but the truth of the
matter is the NHL or for other parts of
the world I don't know Modo or KHL or whatever else those leagues are the
Elite leagues where it's like it's a snowballs chance in hell to even get
there there's lots of still professional sports where people are getting paid to
play on the team that are not the NHL where there is not a lot of money
involved and a lot of heartache and work that goes on to be involved in them just
for a shot at the NHL so you hear about these big prize pools but that doesn't
mean every Esports player is a baller but and now they picked up like EG and
stuff which is that's kind of a big deal not significant but what we're talking
about is like the potential to scoop up everything else yes and and the fact
that not every Esports player or or streamer for that matter you know just
Gamers that basically are are worth advertising Revenue why don't I say it
that way Gamers people want to watch are not necessarily all making bank but they
are all a very valuable commodity and
for twitch to be sort of jumping in and bringing these people in as employees
now in still what is very very early stages for Esports is an incredibly
shrewd strategy for them but one that I have very mixed feelings about because I
I I just I I you look at the kind of
promotion that someone like twitch can do around a major Esports event how much
more promotion do we get when it's their team in the final oh just naturally out
of enthusiasm for their even if there's no like evil sense there at all even if
they're just like oh man like we actually just like you dudes let's do this how much more promotion would like
you know your brother doing something to
do with tech news I've proven that whenever my brother streams I'm like by
everybody go watch yeah I don't know and that's not evil that's just that's just
humans having relationships with each other and wanting each other to succeed
and like this is all warm and fuzzy and quitting New Egg together it just
quitting New Egg together at the same time this is just one of those things
where I feel like by acquiring these teams in the first place they've put
themselves in a position where it's it's almost a foregone conclusion that
they're going to get special special treatment in terms of coverage
yeah so there you go I mean that's not like it diminishes my love for twitch
I'm still I found out about this before I'm still wearing their shirt mostly
because it's American Apparel and it's extremely com really comfortable yeah uh
we're more or less trying to do the thing that Firefox did a long time ago
which is is put stuff out there so that people pay
attention just hold twitch accountable and be ready and pay attention and if
stuff starts happening start talking about it speaking of
Firefox um where's that dang it where is that topic Yahoo
yeah Yahoo why can I not find this I
didn't even see it in the dock is it not in here I don't think so
I thought it was maybe I just posted a link well whatever I'll just have to do
this from from a brain um I really
thought this was in here okay well whatever do you want to
find some it okay so uh mozilla's deal
was a three-year deal in 2011 with Google to have Google be the default
search in the Firefox browser so that's at the Firefox homepage that search was
a Google Search and then in the top right of the Firefox browser that was by
default a Google search has ended I think something like what was it some
horrifying number like 85% of their revenue came from that deal
insane with Google and they have not managed to reach an agreement where they
can continue that partnership so it looks like starting in 2014 Mozilla has
Inked a new deal this time with Yahoo to
have Yahoo be the uh the star search engine for I found an article about this
on Yahoo but it's terrible so I have to go find another one uh whoa I spelled
that wrong blog. mozilla.com is probably going to be the uh the way to go all
right so so yeah we'll go ahead we'll post that we'll post that in the uh in
the in the twitch chat there you guys can check that out but um it hasn't been
as bad as I would have expected at the beginning yeah who search because
powered by Bing yeah so and Bing is just stealing the search results from Google
so realistically it's going all the way
around well they can't steal everything so yeah so so so basically I guess it's
not a huge deal you guys you you don't have to use Yahoo search um what's cool
is that Yahoo is not requiring Mozilla to track their users in any way so
anyone who's already opted out within the browser all all that stuff is still
fine it looks like it looks like not a whole lot is going to change but um for
the people that um are inevitably going to freak out and go what are you talking
about being stealing results from Google I just posted that in the twitch chat uh
that's a Google blog post of that being
a thing yeah so um so basically all you have to do is you can still change the
default search provider just like you can do an Internet Explorer it still
it'll just be the default and I would probably recommend changing it yeah
because Bing is just not very good
unfortunately wasn't like I I found that
in for very basic Search terms for things that I was looking up that like
was expected probably to be searched it
was fine whenever I would search something that was much more specific
it had more problems like if i' if I'd search up like oh this is a news article
that one of my friends told me about that I have no idea what he's trying to say it would find that because it's a
it's a recent common news article um but
if I was like I'm having this really weird issue with this benchmarking
machine yeah it would be like what I don't know what you're talking about W
to Bagel be like no what what actually
yes but I also want a useful search result delicious nutrition is a good
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those are my triwing screwdrivers this was actually the reason I bought the
tool kit the tri-wing screwdriver bits uh so I could take apart my DS he also
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apart ssds the antistatic strap and those those prying tools particularly
the plastic ones are really really handy I used those to take apart my wife's
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featured one of their things in our last handy Tech under 100 that mag IC mat oh
yeah yeah yeah a dry erase thing it's like 20 bucks and it keeps all the
screws you it's you can write on it and label them and it keeps all the screws
where where they're supposed to be which is one of the most infuriating things
about any DIY repair project I think it would be cool if it was like way more
intense and kind of like the plates that we have you could put it up on things
but it's $20 and like it's definitely completing its own job just right when I
saw it I was like ooh I kind of want to put that on the wall I want like the $35
one that's
like uh there isn't a $35 one but if anyone from iFixit is watching which
they probably should be we'd love to see yeah we'd love to see one that's like
magnetic on the back as well and you can like stick it to your fridge and it's so
strong then still grit it out put like bolts from your potato cutter in it on
it I I actually got a I got a bolt in a
poutine once whoa yeah well the that's
like super not good yeah no it was it was like a bolt with like grease on it
oh oh my God yeah no it was it was pretty pretty revolting I uh well okay
the good news is that the reason there was a bolt in the poutine was that they
cut their own fries at this place like fresh cut fries from a fry cutting
machine that apparently lost dropped a bolt dropped a B in my food oh jeez um I
had something to say oh right with that big thing like it it could even have
ridges in the metal so they don't go in between oh that would be awesome yeah so
if it's a big thing you can mount on the wall and then it has its own squares just like that one could even have like
little tiny whiteboard spaces at the top of each one of the squares you can still
label what that area is for and then just yeah ridges so they don't go
between we're full of good ideas that would be oh man and terrible ideas like
dressing up as Paul and Kyle and the Wen my lip is so itchy I'm sure it is my
whole head is how is yours mine yeah it
it's it's kind of weird you know what I'll do after party I'll take it off
okay yeah and I I'll show you guys how it's how it's attached to my head yeah
uh yeah for those of you wondering I did not shave my head bald this is this is a
bald cap and I think she did a pretty bang up job this smudge right here
actually was an accident right before the show started she came in and was
like oh let me just touch up cuz she was like she leaning over
yeah yeah she had to lean over me and like part of the couch just to try and
get to that and then yeah it was unfortunate pretty funny speaking of
things that aren't funny The Pirate Bay was raided this week by Swedish I almost
said spinach police Stop in the Name of
iron eat healthier food you're eating too much junk food with your pirated
movies um so basically they've been they
were down for a couple days now yeah I think they've down two or three days now
let's go ahead and so this is a news article from torrent freak over here uh
so for the first time in months just completely disappeared offline it's
uncertain what exactly the future of the site will be one of the former founders
of the p is it somewhere else now or something basically said yeah and he
basically said I hope it stays down it's I don't really like the direction that
it's that it's gone in you know there's a lot of uh pretty pretty Pirate Bay has
gotten pretty aggressive about the pornographic ads over the last little
bit to the point where it's like I feel you know like it would be just awkward
to have that site open in any social context like there's some pretty graphic
graphic stuff on there um the iso hunt
guys speaking of I didn't earlier in the show didn't we talk about how ISO Hunt
is it back yeah it's CR oh it's back
already wow that was search for tests I know that the iso hunt guys had it back
up at um like this is all very much uh
an evolving story right now yeah but uh they had it back up at old pirate
bay.org pop up ads and crap all over the place oh yeah yeah I think this is
legitimately The Pirate Bay it looks like it they even have a checkbox for
porn well of course they do it's a torrent site what I don't know I don't
what are people downloading on torrent sites I don't know games and movies
that's what I thought well that's technically a movie I guess and
technically games too I think oh yeah see games and movies it's just a
category of games and movies mind you they don't have a check mark for comedy
so oh Adam Sandler you're just not
getting you're not getting pirated the way you used to unless you get naked I
was just going to say Adam nobody wants to see that no
it's just leave it alone H so I be oh
this is this is this was posted by uh Sil drai on the Forum and the original
article here is from n Gadget Intel IBM
and qualcom say net
neutrality um something something headline net neutrality will cause tech
companies like them to
suffer I'm posting on the thing if that's Nick spamming lonus he's not
going to read it hit me or he's going to read it now I guess
oh apparently I can't take the bald wig off myself I need help to take it off oh
all right well she still here I don't know apparently guess I'm paying for
that prob well if unless you want to have a bald head for the rest of ever
well there would be cheaper ways to do that so yeah yeah uh oh hold on a second
apparently there are fake pirate base sites yeah that was that was bound to happen I do know that some of the
rehosted things are some of them are not I I have
no idea I don't want to speculate on which ones are are real and which ones
are not but let's talk about our friends over at Intel Qualcomm and IBM so the
argument being made here apparently pirate B.C is malware infected so don't
go there if you if you get screwed over trying to Pirate stuff I don't care you
kind I'm sorry like you kind of had it
coming I'm sorry just reformat or do whatever like
that's that's what you're kind of paying for okay here okay we'll we'll we'll
come back to the the net neutrality thing tell tell me something how would
you feel about us doing a safe pirating
episode because it's not something that we support but we do support safe
internet practices and the proliferation of viruses is bad for everyone pirates
and non-pirated because there are a lot of things you can do to make piracy a
lot safer safe pirating episode or safe torrenting episode torting is pirating
right but most of the torren I'm totally down for torren but most of the torren
that are going to be infected with you malware are going to be the sketch on
because no one CU because why would you torrent something that is is infected
and because the point of infecting something is you want lots of people
grabbing it you're not going to a potential problem with uh like legit
Torrance though is that they could be
infected because you could you could post one that looks like the legit one
and it's not that was a huge thing back with like lime wire and all that crap
like even if you happen to download something legitimate offline wire that
wasn't pirated it wasn't bull crap it was very easy for someone to post
something under that name yeah that wasn't that and it was malicious right
but if you were going to post a totally get your point I'm just trying to add my
so my point is you would go for something that's much more likely to be
downloaded which let's face it anyone making the argument that a site like ISO
hunt or Pate Bay is being used anything but predominantly for illicit content I
shouldn't say illicit because in a lot of places including Canada downloading a
lot of that stuff isn't illegal but it would be an interesting idea because a
lot of let's say sketch sketchy content yeah yeah it would be an interesting
idea because a lot of the issues you can have like if someone was able to get
some of your personal identification from your computer y you don't deserve
that for no one deserves identity theft like nobody deserves identity theft and
we'll get into the whole Sony thing a little bit later speaking
theft of personal information oh God there's so much crap happening with that but like that's a mess isn't so I see it
from that standpoint I still don't necessarily think we should touch it right but I do agree with like certain
certain what certain viruses can do to you like file dumps and picture dumps
and and Ransom attacks Ransom attacks
like crap like that you don't deserve that that's stup um all right so Intel
IBM and Qualcomm say net neutrality will cause tech companies to suffer so in an
open letter to both Congress and the FCC see a group of 60 companies that
includes Qualcomm and Cisco argue that
proper regulation of the internet will risk the end of national investment in
telecommunications infrastructure I mean we've already had AT&T coming out and
saying hey you know we don't want to although they've backtracked on that so
get other companies to do it hold on well we get let's let's get through the
thing I'm just mad hold on okay hurry up
okay I want to be mad all right you can be mad just be mad quietly um what now I
don't even remember what I was saying right so AT&T already came out and said
look until we know how this new investment that we're making into fiber
and 100 cities is going to be regulated
we're we're not going to make the investment we're going to we're going to put this uh we're going to put this all
on hold um so as far as companies like Intel and IBM are concerned
reclassifying Broadband as a utility will prompt the networks to Halt their
building plans all together so they're basically saying yeah we we buy AT&T's
story that they're going to stop building infrastructure because they
can't monetize it to their satisfaction
um man okay let's keep going so were
that to happen it's claimed that us investment in broadband could fall by as
much as 45 billion in the next 5 years and with that sort of money no longer in
the system the TCH businesses will begin to suffer because if isps aren't
investing in new equipment then Intel's not in able to get that revenue and
employ people to invest in new development for new equipment and
you know what the US isn't the only place on Earth and we're still going to
need decent Broadband equipment for other markets around the world as they
continue to outstrip the US's thirdd worldclass in Internet which is what
it's going to be by the time you know another however long how long is it AT&T
thinks their plan to roll out fiber to
100 cities uh I think they're said what 5 years I think it's something like that
something like 5 years by the time that even happens so if they go ahead and
don't do that and do nothing for five
years it's going to be a joke and you know what things like Municipal internet
yeah the the that we had a topic on that there was a small town in Texas I
believe wasn't it I really hope it was Texas whatever in the State somewh Texas
yeah can't remember um small town just basically went yeah we're just going to
we're going to we're going to build our own fiber infrastructure blackj I think
I think they had already paid for the fiber infrastructure to be there it was
just like an emergency system kind of and then they're like why don't we just
use this maybe make it a little bit stronger I I don't really know that part
but I'm assuming um y y y and that makes a ton of sense and I'm totally down with
that and I just things like Municipal
groups stepping up like that one stuff like Google Fiber stepping in like screw
you and that is what is actually going to happen because you know what guys you
know how this works is the customer is
right and the customer for municipality not always but this time yeah okay yeah
well the okay the customer ultimately dictat the direction things are going to
and if municipalities that invest in proper
internet infrastructure and making sure that their customers their taxpayers are
their customers you don't have to live anywhere you can move that is how you
act like a customer to your municipality to your city to your Province or state
to your country you leave if you're not
happy and you flock to the places that are doing the things that make you happy
and if cities start notice holy crap
other cities that are making sure that their residents have these Wi-Fi
hotspots available all over the city and they have affordable broadband internet
oh they're getting people moving to them maybe we should do this and get people
to move you know what's going to happen AT&T and Intel and IBM and Qualcomm and
all you guys you know what's going to happen is somebody will invest in it and
you will be left behind it's happened over and over and over again I mean I
mean how how well how well did it work out for you know um ice ice mining
companies if they didn't invest in R&D into Refrigeration you know did they did
they just oh well we're not going to we're not going to invest in in new ways
to you know store ice underground and in caves and deliver it to people for their
ice chests until legislation tells us
you know how these Refrigeration units are going to come on you get with the
times or you don't and quite frankly I'm sick of their bitching because they're
making basically their business model they have now enables them to build
sports stadiums okay they have anytime
you can anytime you can like buy out and name a sports Stadium anyone anyone who
a sports stadium is named after I have no sympathy for because it is the
ultimate ego nonsense thing to spend
money on it is pure ego for some executive who has cuz I mean there's a
limit to how much profit you actually want to have the
taxes that you pay on your profit are a lot more than if you just kind of add
some unnecessary expenses to to here here here here here and there's a lot of
there's a lot of tricks that can be played with the book so by the time you're just spending money on stupid
nonsense um oh I have a I have a message
um oh okay uh oh crap that was like 20 minutes
ago maybe we can uh maybe we can bring Paul onto the show by the time you're
spending money on this stupid nonsense you're fine and I really don't
higher that they deliver um or that
people won't be willing to pay for more than just the base level of service when
there's like you know a a 10 or $20 step up that's available that's much much
much faster they will make money on their investment and I guess you know
the good oldfashioned other way that they could grow as companies would be hey I don't know by competing with each
other there are ways to grow your business that don't involve legislating
you know it being unnecessary for you to invest in growth unless you see a
massive disproportionate inappropriate profit potential where you can start
tapping into you know companies like like Google saying hey if you want you
know the fast lane for your customers or Netflix then you're going to have to
you're going to have to pay I mean there's huge problems associated with competitors like Netflix you got to
remember some of these broadband internet companies are also content
servers for cable television they're direct competitors and they're going to
be given the ability to squeeze them out
and charge the Nick for no predefined amount of money for no predefined amount
of money they're just going to be able to nickel and dime them until they can crush them this is just completely
inappropriate and disgusting ridiculous um and you know what Innovation never
stops because someone refuses to stop refuses to keep innovating good luck
well then people will step up yeah all right are we getting them in
here yeah yeah yeah yeah so let's uh let's go ahead and do a thing here
soap disgusting okay hello hey Mr Mr
heick hold on I don't have you I don't have you quite live yet you'll have to mute your show there sir yes just did
sorry all right hold on I'm just gonna get the get the mixer I heard uh oh oh
bloody balls bloody balls bloody balls
it's so uncanny seeing you two talk to each other when
looking in a mirror all right there he is
hey got Paul on the show another Paul on
the show so okay okay how's the how's the how's the how's the similarity you
got to give me your assessment how' I do here well clearly the cloning process
has was successful I think uh I I don't
keep it quite that short it's been a while since I had it like fully gone but
I I mean and and you're a little bit wide I think
on the there so you got to it's got kind of
a vshape to it if you notice it's tap the V towards the bottom it's better
than yes what I was going for yeah optimal
optimal v v optimized Hair Management V
optimized Hair Management okay yeah on the lower lip there um is it tress
effects TR effects maybe Paul's has a little bit more tress
effects than yours okay so let me tell you something the intention for for my
makeup was actually um Brandon screwed up and told our artist that she had
until 5:30 for the show to start so she
was kind of working away and working away and I'm like yeah it's showtime in
20 minutes she's like what you have got to be kidding me I'm not I'm not even
close to done I'm like oh well we've got 20 minutes so she had ended to put hair in
like to actually put hair on so that we could get the look a little bit closer
but I get I I think considering the the time constraints uh I'm pretty pleased
with the results yeah you you guys went all out I mean have you ever tried to
rush a makeup artist before they
don't no they don't they don't really take kindly to that so um since you're
on the show do you want to do you want to talk some like Tech crap I'd be happy
to I mean uh I I don't have your show do
but um that's fine I'll work on that you you do your thing yeah if you just want
to share share it with Paul um so so guys for those of you who don't know
Paul he's from the YouTube channel Paul's Hardware formerly from new.tv
although you're still on new egtv aren't you uh yeah I go in there uh once a week
still and and and do a show so I'm still hanging out there but also working on my
own channel so check it out if you guys are interested love to have you stop by
cool man so uh okay let's uh let's go ahead and jump into our next topic have
you heard that Windows 10 may be
subscription based this was posted by aing on the Forum and our original
article here is from techreport tocom do you want to go ahead and post that link
and I'll I'll open this baby up what do you think of subscription-based
Windows I think it's a good idea I think if you I mean if you look at when people
do builds and so often I see build build
setups and you know there's no Windows in there and it's always like oh well
are you going to have to spend another hundred bucks on your Windows license
for something like that but I mean if you compare it to something like Adobe
like I think Adobe realized that that
piracy was pretty rampant with their product and so rampant is one way of
putting it yeah that's that's putting it mildly but so so since they realize that
it was such an issue they offered the subscription based thing and I know of a lot more people who do the subscription
now who never had a, plus dollars
depending on what suite you were getting to to drop on something like that so I
think it's a good idea I think it's a a I think it's definitely something
Microsoft needs to do given the competition that they're looking at as
far as operating systems go and um I'm
just kind of curious how much they're going to charge actually there is there
any information on that uh I haven't seen anything but what I suspect we'll
see because Microsoft going back to my my retailer days you know back when I
used to have meetings with Microsoft about you know what they wanted to do
for quite some time the strategy has been how do we attach Windows and office
better yeah and this is the way because
Office 365 is already great and if I
could pay a little bit more for Office 365 and which already includes my sky
drive storage so by by bundling more
services together Microsoft could extract incrementally a little bit more
money from me and could deliver largely
incrementally me incrementally a lot more value to me that is a winwin
proposition I would kind of like there to be two systems because in certain
situations like uh say as a student if
you if you are given a laptop right a
lot of a lot of different situations you might be given a laptop I'm not going to go through all the different potential
situations where you're given a laptop you would probably have to keep that
subscription up wow not that one I I know I couldn't get it right I was doing
in the mirror oh my goodness I was looking at the at least you're you're
apparently not very skilled with that um
it's like you might have to keep that subscription going say you're fairly
young kid I built my computer really early on there's no way I could have kept up with a subscription I had money
that I had collected over years from birthdays and Christmas and whatnot and
like paper routes and crap that's how I built my first computer right and I
dumped everything I had now in this case I would have had to keep like a buffer
so that I could keep this stupid subscription going like I couldn't
afford to buy cheap Steam games I was trying to get free games and like
whatever I could get from my parents from time to there's no way would have
been able to keep a subcription going there is people that this doesn't make a ton of sense for personally I like this
idea it works for me right now I can afford the little bit of subscription
it'll probably be a lot easier because incremental Hardware upgrades and stuff
it's not going to care anymore as long as the subscri subscription is only on
one computer at a time just like uh Office 365 I think that'll make it a lot
easier for the stuff I'm doing which is great but we also have to remember the
people that it's not good for well I think that in a lot of situations like
okay for example a piece okay okay there a few problems that I can think of right
off the bat is one of the things about a subscription based service is it
includes updates not everyone wants to
update to the latest Windows and if they
even if they wanted to maybe they're running Hardware that doesn't support it
so Microsoft may be locking themselves into this sort of Vista 780 8.1 is
compatible kernel for quite some time if we want to see driver support that will
make any sense for subscription based Windows another issue is the one that
you brought up where sometimes buying Windows is just a better option but for
me like something like Office 365 where I can pay the monthly service I get
licenses for all my devices especially for techn files who have many devices if
they can give me my five you know Windows licenses that I subscrib to then
that's all the ones I need versus what it would cost me like 500 bucks every
couple of years is what it would cost me to update all of my devices at a time so
it gets incrementally cheaper as you have more devices yeah so that I didn't
really have a great flow to that but that was my basic point I still I still
think it's very segmented and I'm interested to hear what Paul thinks I
was just going to say I mean we discussed some of the benefits of the
subscription based service but Luke like as you're pointing out there are
definitely situations where just buying it outright is is also a good option so
I know a lot of businesses know that subscription Based Services are a way to
create an income stream that's that's very steady and very standard and
getting a bunch of people to sign up is a really good thing if you look at something like like a World of Warcraft
or something like that I mean the amount of money that you can make from that is
huge so predictable yes and you can know
exactly how much money you're going to be making yeah and essentially you can
have people who would pay end up paying more than what you would pay for uh if
you had just bought it outright so I would say that I I I would not want to
see that the subscription model at the expense of also not being able to buy it
outright fair enough can you still buy office out right I think so
right I I don't Office 2013 you can what
I like about yeah that's what uh 365 is is 2013 yeah yes what I like about sort
of Cloudy subscription Services I guess
is that at least they're evolving in the right direction I mean you look at the
App Store the App Store being able to family share apps now you look at steam
being able to family share apps now you look at the way an Office 365
subscription works there is nothing that prevents me from equipping my whole
household with my office subscription whether it's me or my wife or or my son
I mean he's two he doesn't need an office yet but at some point he'll need
office there's nothing that prevents me from that and so that's where the additional value for me comes in as a
household subscription based it's it's like more like bulk buying at a an
incredible discount yeah makes a ton of
sense uh I just looked it up um the first website they came was Best Buy but
it showed a really good demonstration actually you can get the subscription or you can buy the full thing okay uh so if
they do that with Windows 2 I think they've covered all possible basis I'll
get a subscription other people can buy the whole thing whatever fits for you
better that's awesome all right so the Sony hack Paul have you been keeping up
with what's been going on for poor Sony over there they they've gotten it pretty bad
pretty recently yeah yeah I don't think I ever thought I'd say poor
Sony it's it's funny because I like
right when all that was coming out um I don't know if you follow Jason he writes
for Forbes Jason evangelo but he he just wrote an article about going to the Sony
the PlayStation experience that they just had and his whole journey touring
around to all of the indie games that they had there and like what a great
experience it was and how much he felt like Sony was reaching out to that and
like yeah I I've never felt worse for Sony definitely they have been doing a
lot for Indie on PS4 I mean they've done a lot of crap that I really feel
strongly is is terrible um a lot of proprietary Ville nonsense but uh let's
let's just do like a brief brief rundown
so problems started on November 24th
when various reports pointed to a high proof profile studiowide Cyber attack at
the hands of a group calling itself has goop guardians of peace the hackers we
still don't really know their origin there seems to be some kind of link to
um what was it was it Bangkok or something like that North Korea Bangkok
a little bit of South Korea not really sure the rumor was it was probably North
Korea because one of the they haven't had anything to do with it and then
there sources and then there sources in South Korea there's stuff all over the place
no one really knows the only demand they've made so far other than other
than an early one um other than an early one by email which the executives they
sent it to never even responded to which was for money um it looks like there's
been another demand to pull the movie the interview in which um who is it I
don't know a couple like goofy actors Seth maybe maybe Seth ran can you
remember Paul do you know who the actors are I don't really follow act and that
other dude who's very attractive and smokes weed a lot what's his name even
Goldberg and Seth Rogan yeah all right
so anyway they they are supposed to they they meet Kim jonga and they're supposed
to assassinate him or something um so out of the data that's been that's been
released by the group did I say even they claimed that they had just under
100 terabytes of data and out of what they've released they've uh they've
included some high quality uh high
quality leaks of upcoming films uh
they've they've released executive contact information emails um salaries
they've released the details of Sony's dealings with uh Sony Sony Pictures
dealings with celebrities including their names uh negotiation strategies
how much they they traveling aliases like there is there's ton of stuff going
on uh I don't know what the American version is but wasn't it like sin numbers essentially of employees too
that's horrible social insurance numbers excuse me that's ours Social Security
numbers in the US right Paul is it Social Security whatever your personal
thing is that I I don't have one of those but I assume I've heard that's
what they're called um so yeah they're saying uh we are sending out our warning
again do carry out our demand if you want to escape us and stop immediately
showing the movie of terrorism which can break the regional peace and cause the
War uh I mean this is this is causing so
so much uproar and the the truth of the matter is Sony has to release the
interview they can't not release the interview because as soon as they don't
release the interview these guys have full control because nothing it's not
like it's not like Sony can say okay we
won't release the interview and you know these guys won't still have all that
data yeah oh okay well we'll give you the data back I mean data is not not
like that it's not a physical object they can just put it on a different hard
drive somewhere um so I I mean the the thing about it is
Sony has no choice but to release the interview and they almost can't because
individual employees at Sony are getting threats from this group towards them and
their families I mean this is just a mess it so some one of the leaks
includes private info of close to 40,000
Sony Pictures ex employees home addresses previous salaries that's
really messed up like like Guardians Of Peace let's ruin
a huge amount of people's lives
what like the there there was different ways that if they wanted to
to harass Sony with this information
they could have that didn't like destroy all the employees lives which probably
had nothing to do with this movie at all yeah ridiculous so they're asking for
monetary monetary compensation or blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and you
know that like I've seen some criticism of the Sony Executives for not even
opening the email initially but like I wouldn't open that email it would look
like a spam email I would not open it specifically because it looks like a
spam email and there might be security issues the number the number of empty
threats that you could get to that same end like that like I guarantee they've
been threatened with something similar to that before the idea that there was
anybody able to actually go through with it is probably pretty far from your mind
at that point so he does need to freaking stop holding stuff in PL text
oh my goodness yeah that's I mean of all
of these things the the lack of security on Sony's side is is pretty pretty
reprehensible yeah I mean that's the that's the like I okay I guess it's not
so much that I feel bad for Sony I do feel kind of bad for Sony because I just
people that work for Sony yeah I feel especially bad for the people that work
for Sony because the thing is is that if Sony Pictures you know can't negotiate
with Brad Pit anymore because he's
worried about his personal information being leaked because he dealt with Sony
Pictures you know that's going to mean
countless jobs lost because Sony Pictures can't sustain itself anymore
like this is terrible this is just terrible and absolutely terrible and
there's no way for it to to go well from this point that I can see it's just kind
of really bad there there's rumors that Sony was using Amazon web services to to
Dos sites that were hosting the stolen content but that's so sketchy rumors
that's they're sketchy rumors it would be a sketchy thing for Sony to do I'm
not even sure if I believe it it could be but like there's there's I i' I
looked up that a little bit looked that up a a little bit um and there was an
extreme lack of information as far as I can tell someone was like
Oh I thought of this thing that they could potentially be doing interesting
I'm going to post this on the internet and that that's as far as that rumor has
has gone as far as I can tell so I don't know starts and then from there it
snowballs into that's what they're doing like it could be I don't know I'm not
saying it's definitely not but it sounds like a whole bunch of bull crap to
me if you're going to use something AWS would make sense um
uh the Youtube Android application update allows you to watch videos
offline this was posted on the Forum by luno and it gives do you want to go
ahead and post this in the twitch chat sure uh it gives users the option to
download a video for offline consumption they can choose between 360p and 720p
and most channels are not available yet but it will be rolling out in time and
uh yeah so I believe Tech Qui is available already so if you need
download button yeah Tech cookie is and LCT is not yet so if you need to go show
someone how to do something you can download the Techquickie video before you leave and then show them I wonder um
like I'm assuming they're still they still have a way to track viewership stats the fact that it's app based makes
a lot of sense because they don't want you downloading files then they have no
tracking information and I mean for the people watching that tracking
information is really important to YouTubers like us and this guy because
we use it to find out what you guys like
you know with we can see retention hotspots like where people watched and
where they were interested in and and all that kind of stuff so the fact that
it's within an app means that Google next time that phone goes online will
still be able to report views and uh and
hotpots and all that definitely be able to do that all that data and make sure that they like I I wonder how ads work
does it still serve an ad to you I wonder it could download like a a set of
ads with it I wouldn't be surprised and then serve it or just one of them and
you just get served the exact same one every time I'm not sure twitch chat let
us know do you still get ads if you download into the
app that would be a lot of work to circumvent a 5-second skippable
button yeah if you were like I'm going to download every video so I don't have
to watch the ads that would be a little bit odd but I mean sometimes sometimes
YouTube rolls things out where they just haven't implemented that yet even though
it costs them some M Revenue like for the longest time mobile didn't have ads
on it yeah that's true really long time
actually yeah I mean you could make the argument that they wanted people to
watch on mobile so that Android and stuff they can uh put ads in later yeah
just put the ads in later they could just force you download the ad as well
sorry they could just force you to download the ad as well yeah I'm just
not sure what they're doing hopefully twitch chat is exploding with people
someone says I get ads but it's twitch chat so it could all be bs anyway yeah
I've got people saying no ads got people saying yeah ads thanks twitch chat
twitch chat super useful as normal we love you guys speaking of
twitch chat we have 6500 people
watching is that a new record no oh we
were we close to 7,000 once yeah okay well it's it's it's really good it's a
very high amount that's like number two or three got be there yeah that's right
I mean that's more views than Paul gets in a year a
on my live shows I don't I don't do live
shows I could do live shows I saw you I
saw you I saw you doing a live show that
was the new egg live show no I saw you doing a different live show he's making
did you see that yeah I did see that I'm subscribed I'm subscribed to that
website yeah where you where you have that live big Hardware
Snapchat oh terrible that's a brilliant name if I don't have that yet I'm going
to set it up
now that's Fant speaking of picture-based uh social media uh this
was posted by etj on the Forum Instagram
now apparently bigger than Twitter I'm not surprised I want to go
ahead and post a link sure so Instagram
has told newsbeat it has the potential to change the world as it announced it
has overtaken Twitter with 300 million
users uh Twitter claims to have 284 million users accessing the network each
month which is fascinating um Paul do
you use Instagram I do have Instagram uh
I'm not Super Active on there but I try to post a few videos every now and then
a few pictures every now and then of course um that's interesting I I'd be
curious about actual traffic though because I feel like there's a lot of
people who go to Twitter and read Twitter but aren't necessarily signed up
you know what the thing about Instagram is and this is this has been this has
been why I've continued to use it because I've had a lot of people complain to me about my use of Instagram
for posting pictures whenever I post a picture on Twitter I'll get like I don't
know basically no one sees it 10 or 15 favorites or whatever and then I'll get
um you know I I don't like a couple
comments um and then maybe a retweeter too when I post something on Instagram
if if the objective is to interact with
yall then you're telling me that Instagram is the way to go all that kind
of stuff lots more comments lots more likes lots more interaction with the
community that I'm trying to engage with so I don't know what it is exactly maybe
it's and honestly I find uh Instagram
conversations are garbage yeah Twitter conversations are worse yeah so it's
actually easier to follow the conversation for me on Instagram which
is ridiculous but it's like the lesser of two evils yeah okay ideally everyone
would just join the lonus tech tips Forum yeah to be honest um I was trying
to reply to someone on YouTube the other day and it broke all my formatting right when I posted I was like oh God please
just post on the Forum and the thing that kills me is half the people you
know what you know what there seems to be a direct correlation between the
people on YouTube who make me mad and the people on YouTube who have the reply
disabled on their profile because half the time more than half the
time wow a lot of the time I want to reply to someone on YouTube CU I'm like
yeah you are completely wrong about everything you just said and the
internet is making me mad they there's no reply and and and a lot of the time
too the particularly out there ones have
have solicited a reply and just have no idea that I can
never reply to them yeah yeah do you ever get that Paul where someone's just
like this thing you did was so stupid and and
then there's just no reply button and so you're just kind of sitting there going well I'd love to set the record straight
but it's definitely happened both ways I mean I hate it when somebody actually
has a legitimate like question or or
comment or something that I do want to reply to and I'm like I can't I want
even if it's completely positive it's like I can't help you I'll try to like F
at tag people and deep down inside I'm like you're never going to see this I'm
trying to help but there like there's no way you're coming back unless you get a
email or whatever so oh well well I
think that's pretty much it for for the topics that we really have today how are
things going Paul or do you want should we should we do this after party yeah
okay so thanks guys for for watching the show today we're going to go ahead and
roll our outro and we'll be back with an Afterparty for as long as Paul here can
join us with his fan testing wall of fness which you guys can't see because I
uh didn't set the thing right whatever the point is the show's over
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