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this CPU right here the AMD athlon 3000g

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costs just 50

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i mean let's put that in perspective that's like a night at the movies and

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you might not even both get your own popcorn and drink i mean for that little

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money how good could it possibly be

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well Intel actually also has a CPU that's

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just 65 that on paper looks pretty comparable

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but the athlon 3000g has a trick up its sleeve an unlocked multiplier so today's

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plan is to overclock the snot out of this thing and see just how badly it can

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shred Intel's equivalent then take a look at what you're giving up compared

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to what we would consider to be the best bang for the buck chip on the market the

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AMD ryzen 5 3600. what's going in and

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all right so in front of me right here

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in front of me right here are two systems this one with the athlon 3000g

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and this one with the pentium g4560

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a budget CPU that was pretty awesome when it first came out

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two years ago but i think uh might have

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had its super budget reign come to an end by this point right i'm supposed to

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do a cinebench r20 drag race so i will come back around to this side ready and

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one two three can he operate two mice at the same time

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yes he can honestly guys is it just me or is this

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like watching a race between like a yaris and a honda fit

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neither of them is fast this is fascinating our AMD chip has actually

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been behind Intel for most of this race

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but it seems to be making up ground and i think AMD has come out into the lead

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to be clear guys i'm not hating on cheap processors there's a time and a place

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for every CPU at every budget it's just that

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the time and place is not now and not cinebench r20 for

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these kinds of chips in a stunning turn of events our Intel bench is now out

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ahead again i was not expecting this to be so exciting

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and Intel finishes first with a whopping

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841 points so that's not what we expected but this is its stock

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and this one can be overclocked so i still think our argument that this one's

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a better value it's also 15 cheaper

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uh should be fine yep here are the basics of the athlon 3000g

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with this chip you're getting two cores and four threads that run at a base

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clock of 3.5 gigahertz and there is no

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boosting what you see is what you get 3.5 gs it also comes with Radeon vega 3

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graphics though and given that AMD has been pretty good at equipping their cpus

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with decent onboard graphics over the years i feel like it's worth taking a

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look at what kind of a gaming experience you might expect out of nothing but what

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you see here just a CPU single stick of

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RAM remember this is a budget system where upgrade path might be more

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important than raw performance today and no graphics card whatsoever

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so running here is rainbow six siege a five-year-old game that is pretty darn

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easy to run by modern standards we're at 1080p on low settings and

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oops that should give you some idea why we're going to be using a dedicated

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graphics card for our testing because even a budget gaming rig is

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still probably gonna want to run a little better than that once again

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though guys i'm not hating on budget rigs i'm just saying if you're gonna do

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it do it smart so ignoring dumb things

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like that we're using trident z royal memory it's just running at low speeds

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to simulate cheap memory this rig is about 300 assuming that you picked up

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like a budget case and power supply and built a full system around it for just

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another fifty dollars you could pick up a ryzen 3 3200g

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that has double the cores of the 3000g and vega 8 graphics with 512 graphics

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pipelines compared to the vega 3's 192. for just 50 more that is a lot more

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performance if all you need is onboard memory for the basics

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however you guys might have noticed we did not in fact switch to a 3200g even

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though it's a better value if you're running onboard graphics

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that's because we think a particularly interesting config could be the cheapest

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possible CPU here with

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a GPU like the 1650 super from NVIDIA

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most games especially esports ones or older ones don't need a ton of processor

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course so we suspect that with the right sort of

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value combination here we might be able to get near the performance of a CPU

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that costs darn near four times as much

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something like a ryzen 5 2600 especially

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if we can get a decent overclock out of it so let's go ahead and fire this puppy

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back up wow this is already a good sign at least

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at least the menu runs smoothly so what settings would you recommend hi

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hi all right apply let's hit the benchmark

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and who knew adding a graphics card to your gaming system gives you better

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performance so instead of around 20 FPS

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all low we're now running let's see

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130 FPS average and this is on high

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details instead of low but what i'm about to find out is how this graphics

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card ran with what we think is arguably the best bang for the buck CPU on the

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market the ryzen 5 3600 how'd that do

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yeah 192. so we have some ground to make

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up okay that's fine we can do that we haven't

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even started overclocking yet 60fps not hard

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here we go the right way to overclock is to slowly increase your frequency and

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voltage until you run into thermal limits then back it off etc etc etc

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stability and such and so forth we're just gonna go full hail mary so we're

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gonna assume that our cheap RAM can do 26 66 megahertz overclocked without too

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much trouble that should be doable uh we're going to try and hit four

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gigahertz we're going to pump it to 1.3 volts and we're going to do an soc

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voltage of 1.2 and just kind of see what happens

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well it's not a blue screen it's also not booting one thing to note

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is that this is like a 75 motherboard

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if you had a 300 motherboard you could probably

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push this further but oh is that working

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that would be pretty stupid though yeah

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well we can try 1.4 volts and see what happens i mean the thing is guys with a

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cheap chip i'm not saying 50 isn't a lot of money i'm saying that usually they're

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not gonna die like immediately so by the time it actually dies and it's time to

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replace it a 50 CPU brand new on the used and now

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out of date market is probably not very much so i tend to be a little bit more

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comfortable pushing lower end hardware to its

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breaking point well the anti-malware stuff and things start up when you start

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the computer everything just chugs yup

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what he said the good news is that

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we're booted at okay it's not four gigahertz but it's 3.9 gigahertz and

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2400 megahertz RAM so let's see how much additional performance that ended up

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being worth i'm not gonna have task manager running in the background

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hey it uses like 1 CPU on something like mid-range to high-end sometimes and it's

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stable enough to run the benchmark but honestly speaking guys my expectations

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are pretty low right now we only managed an 11 overclock going from 3.5 to 3.9

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gigahertz and the difference in performance that we're trying to make up

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is more like what thirty percent

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it's quite a bit more now the good news is that we're obviously heavily CPU

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bound our GPU will be able to suck up any extra

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performance it can get so you know who knows maybe it'll

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scale even better than linearly but i would not expect that

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139.9 that was barely an improvement okay so yeah not a lot better it looks

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like in rainbow six siege anyway the difference in performance might have

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really come about from the extra course in the first place i mean okay in

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fairness though you know 72 minimum 139 average like

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that is very playable and you could rock this for like two

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three years and then once you've saved up or once they get

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cheap on the used market which i mentioned before

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you pick up one of these bippidybopty off to the races should we do a sanity

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check run one more game uh yeah all right i was really hoping

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that it would overclock a bit more than it has i mean i don't think another 100

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megahertz was gonna make a difference i wonder if being able to get the RAM a

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bit higher would make a big difference possibly

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um i don't think that's realistic for a budget system though you know and that's

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actually running reasonably smooth i'm definitely seeing some small

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stutteriness that would be explained by some relatively high frame times even

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though the average FPS is in the 30 to 40 range so far um but this is what

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settings are we at so we're at 1080p

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um and what's the score to beat 78 FPS with a minimum of 60. we're not

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getting there yeah i know all right let's see how this goes

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and you can really see particularly in panning or moving shots that the

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motion's not smooth like some of the frames are being delivered much faster

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than others and that can easily be caused by a CPU bottleneck 28 minimum 48

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average yeah even overclocked it didn't hold up

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and up until this point we've ignored that the ryzen 5 3600 can

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also be overclocked so the 3600 still

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looks like a terrific value because remember guys when you calculate the

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value of an individual component you don't just take it in isolation so you

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can't say this costs four times as much as a 3000 g therefore it should perform

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four times better you've got to look at the price of the system so this system

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right now is 450 if we spent another 150 on our CPU that

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would put it at 600 but that's only a 30

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increase in our budget for what would be more than a 30 increase in performance

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that's why at the end of the day the lesson is and continues to be

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build yourself a balanced system because that is how you get the best bang for

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your buck i'm a little disappointed well do we want to try and push it

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further like we do have a chiller we do have really good motherboards but the

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problem is that what at best we're going to get another 100 200 300 megahertz i

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think the ultimate lesson here is that unless you're on an extreme budget

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playing much older games or you just need basic office functionality

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the age of multi-core processors rather than dual core processors is absolutely

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upon us yeah i mean we even went out of our way to make sure that there's no

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Windows or steam update you know nonsense running in the background and

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this was still the best we could do yeah it's not ideal

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so i would spend the extra for the 3200 g if i was doing like an extreme budget

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station and then i would i would wait and do my graphics upgrade later or

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something like that or buy it used or

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i would just go for something like a 3600 in the first place

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get used hardware a lot of the time it's so cheap compared to new that even if

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