WEBVTT 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:09.160 we've talked about fiber optic Thunderbolt cables before and these things are crazy cool they'll do 40 gbit 00:00:05.520 --> 00:00:11.080 pers second to distances as long as 50 m 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:15.480 and they're so durable that you can tie them in knots and pull on them like this 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:20.279 without them breaking 50 m i mean that's pretty far but Thunderbolt allows you to 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:26.640 daisy chain multiple docks and peripherals to achieve distances much 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:29.560 much further we have got six spools of 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:35.559 50 m Thunderbolt cables and we are going to be h up this GPU almost 1,000 ft away 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:38.440 from our computer that's right I'm going to show you guys the new unit where 00:00:37.239 --> 00:00:43.960 we're going to be doing some more of our benchmarking and testing and we're going to run the cable all the way there and 00:00:41.360 --> 00:00:47.960 it's sponsored by NZ xt's build so naturally we're going to be using one of 00:00:45.360 --> 00:00:51.640 their gaming PCs as our source except obviously we're going to want to rip 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:56.320 that 380 TI out put it in an external enclosure and then go for a little walk 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.320 here 00:01:02.760 --> 00:01:08.080 obviously before we go off adventuring we want to get a baseline for what kind 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:13.360 of performance we would expect running a normal just 3ft copper cable from our 00:01:11.119 --> 00:01:15.640 Thunderbolt port to our GPU here so we're going to go ahead and fire up 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:21.600 shadow of the Tomb Raider I'm running at the highest settings 1440p exclusive 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:25.079 full screen with motion blur disabled oh 00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:26.520 come on all right 60 FPS average now 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:30.200 let's see what happens when we take it somewhere else David do we want to jump 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:33.759 the fence or do we want to like go around or what jump the fence baby you 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:38.600 want to jump the fence all right let's jump the fence baby in that case I'm 00:01:35.320 --> 00:01:41.520 going to put the 3080 TI down these 00:01:38.600 --> 00:01:41.520 zippers better hold 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:47.200 up oh crap I'm having too much fun 00:01:45.399 --> 00:01:51.000 already you need me to hold hold one in here yeah go ahead and plug it in 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:56.000 hopefully our neighbors don't like trip over this I hope this works I only 00:01:53.240 --> 00:02:02.360 tested it with two cables ow ow ow ow stop oh my God this 00:02:00.360 --> 00:02:08.039 fence is barbed wire David oh no they're backing their truck 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:09.759 in long story we need to run a cable all 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:13.599 the way from this building to one over there you're backing in now right and 00:02:11.720 --> 00:02:18.000 then are you guys done for the day oh boy if I got it out of your way now then 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:24.080 would be be be good after that probably Hey look it's Brian oh you're good to 00:02:20.480 --> 00:02:25.760 plug in over we're plugged in I will go 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:32.879 plug in the GPU why don't you come back and fire up Tomb Raider where'd it go 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:37.599 oh we're going to make it sure well no I'm not entirely confident because the 00:02:34.760 --> 00:02:43.360 thing about Thunderbolt it requires very very tight tolerances in terms of 00:02:39.519 --> 00:02:45.560 latency at 300 M we are approaching the 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:49.599 point where even at the speed of light that is a 00:02:46.760 --> 00:02:53.640 non-negligible amount of latency for something like a high performance 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:59.519 graphics card so I'm hoping we will make it the full 350 M but this is by no 00:02:57.319 --> 00:03:05.200 means a guarantee I actually lied a little because you don't need both a hub 00:03:02.640 --> 00:03:08.159 and the GPU at one node at a time so we only need one of these at a time we only 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:14.200 need one of these at a time yeah that's fine we'll test 50 m first okay so is 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:17.159 this is this thing on hello oh yeah yeah 00:03:14.200 --> 00:03:20.640 the RGB's on okay oh man these hikes back and forth are going to get pretty 00:03:18.640 --> 00:03:23.640 stupid that's a long way around 00:03:25.799 --> 00:03:32.159 uh we got the spol let's go we got a 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:36.959 blue screen on the computer so I'm just um restarting 00:03:33.519 --> 00:03:38.680 it okay good luck I unplugged it while 00:03:36.959 --> 00:03:43.840 the game was running and I think it just got a little confused we are off to a 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:49.760 real good start here ooh that's very interesting we've dropped 15% of our 00:03:46.480 --> 00:03:53.239 performance already wow okay uh come 00:03:49.760 --> 00:03:57.239 grab this cable then 15% is that because 00:03:53.239 --> 00:03:59.360 of the raw distance is it because of the 00:03:57.239 --> 00:04:05.599 signal translation that's happening to confirm to Optical and then back will it 00:04:01.760 --> 00:04:05.599 get worse I feel like Ned Flanders 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.720 just oh oh hi there hi oh I see you 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:16.880 there's a Thunderbolt glory hole going on over here yeah yeah my poor new 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:23.199 jacket all right so let's go ahead we're going to unplug our Thunderbolt GPU plug 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:26.680 in our first Thunderbolt dock which is 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:28.560 acting as a hey Colin hi razor in their 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:33.639 Infinite Wisdom doesn't label this bloody thing does this one support daisy 00:04:30.960 --> 00:04:37.400 chaining I think so let's double check that cuz I actually use one of these at 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:42.000 home and I think it might not and I'm going to go get the rest of what we need 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:46.080 so another Hub another jackary and uh I 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:48.080 will be right back ye I believe what 00:04:46.080 --> 00:04:52.720 we've done here is supposed to work now something to note is that external gpus 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:58.840 are really not supposed to be hooked up through a hub at all let 00:04:55.000 --> 00:05:01.520 alone five hubs we have no idea if this 00:04:58.840 --> 00:05:07.919 is going to work at all let alone well oh hi there Hi Neighbor howdy neighbor 00:05:04.919 --> 00:05:11.360 would you like a graphics card I would 00:05:07.919 --> 00:05:13.560 um and a Cable cable and a jackary oh 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:16.840 right um well here should I just come for a little ride with you you're just 00:05:15.520 --> 00:05:25.639 going to ride on the cart yeah yeah I was just going to and I'll tow you scoot it no five bucks say I Biff with this 00:05:21.520 --> 00:05:29.600 3080 ti ti ti that's something 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.600 one-handed let me tell you 00:05:31.880 --> 00:05:36.520 okay we got the 380 TI Linus is I think 00:05:34.919 --> 00:05:40.319 scoot scooting the jackary and stuff over really we should have handed it over the fence I don't know what we were 00:05:38.960 --> 00:05:45.919 thinking in the meantime we can spool out this cable straight down the parking 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.880 lot see see how much further we can get 00:05:45.919 --> 00:05:55.560 this line oh oh no there's one more 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:57.560 winding okay that's another 50 m uh the 00:05:55.560 --> 00:06:04.680 building we're going to is just the next complex to the right there and it's unit 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:07.840 120 120 yeah okay uh oh I totally need a 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:11.520 oh even better I needed both of these 00:06:07.840 --> 00:06:13.800 things thunderboard dock is powered oh 00:06:11.520 --> 00:06:17.479 boy it's barbed wire no way I'm aiming for that spot 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:21.680 right there what what could go wrong yvon's 00:06:20.280 --> 00:06:26.039 going to kill me now that's 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:29.240 interesting oh I think our performance is actually better this time around I 00:06:27.599 --> 00:06:33.280 think it might have just been the driver being kind of like bugged out from the 00:06:31.280 --> 00:06:39.240 sudden disconnection before it's starting to rain so this is my genius 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:44.599 idea uh we'll just put a Rubbermaid bin 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:46.520 on top of garbage bags um 55 FPS so wait 00:06:44.599 --> 00:06:49.960 no that's worse again I didn't see any weird stuttering or anything in the game 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:54.120 playay the performance is a little bit worse it seems like we're losing there's 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:59.680 a little bit of overhead with each of our hubs that we're going 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:04.599 through man you know as much as it might not be as good performance as you would 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:06.960 expect from a 380 TI it's sure as heck 00:07:04.599 --> 00:07:10.360 running if our display and our peripherals were at the other end right 00:07:08.960 --> 00:07:15.400 so the computer's got a Thunderbolt connection and we're gaming over on that 00:07:12.440 --> 00:07:20.000 side the run is 100 m but actually it has to go round trip okay so you got 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:23.400 your PCI Express run going to your GPU over there and then the GPU actually has 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:28.759 to send back the DisplayPort information all the way back to us here 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:30.039 so it's going 200 M you guys are good to 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:34.199 unplug okay here we go so unplug that yep you 00:07:32.840 --> 00:07:39.560 want to handle carrying the graphics card M this is our third 50 m cable okay 00:07:38.479 --> 00:07:47.159 we're just going to plug it in willy-nilly keep it kind 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:49.560 of Y yep yep mhm MH oh jeez 00:07:47.159 --> 00:07:54.400 mhm fiber optics don't mind being run over right we're going to just drive 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:58.080 over the fiber optic there okay give it a couple seconds here but the you should 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:02.440 see the GPU real soon let's try and make make this faster 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:08.039 we can run the next line while we wait sorry about the Landscaping uh those are 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:09.479 roses ow ow okay we're in unit 120 00:08:08.039 --> 00:08:13.560 apparently I have no idea where that is do you know where unit 120 is which 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:18.759 address are you talking uh I can find out what address is unit 120 located 00:08:19.440 --> 00:08:25.680 in this is very interesting I managed to launch the game but I haven't made it 00:08:23.479 --> 00:08:29.639 past the splash screen ooh we're hitting a limitation how close are you guys to 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:33.519 the new office I don't know which building we're 00:08:31.039 --> 00:08:36.919 in I see the problem it launched with the wrong GPU let me see if I can get 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:41.440 this sorted out on my side still no information on which building I need to 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:42.800 go to classic lus the NVIDIA GPU is not 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:45.720 showing up I'm going to give the system a quick restart and see if it pops up 00:08:44.560 --> 00:08:49.920 but you might want to give me an unplug and replug okay I'll walk back to it now 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:55.560 how sure are you that you're plugged into the correct ports on the Razer one 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:57.320 the input is the one on the front oh 00:08:55.560 --> 00:09:02.000 then I'm definitely not plugged in the right one okay so we're in the front 00:08:59.560 --> 00:09:06.600 Port now I think at the back it doesn't matter okay I want to make it very clear 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:12.920 and this is not just because Corning sent us a bunch of their Thunderbolt cables this is far beyond what is 00:09:10.959 --> 00:09:19.519 reasonable for this spec we just want to see the limits I got no GPU showing up yet okay 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:23.920 I just unplugged and replugged it it's still not showing up do you want to try 00:09:21.040 --> 00:09:23.920 the same port that I 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:31.519 did already 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:39.079 it's that building right there the the middle one or the right one right the 00:09:36.760 --> 00:09:45.880 one with the red oning there okay said it was down the right 00:09:42.920 --> 00:09:49.600 side is it showing up at all I'm like kind of worried that the cable got 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:54.519 mushed when someone drove over it wait Colin can you hear me I'm expecting he's 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:59.120 going to team call me y there it is my walkie-talkie battery died a shocker 00:09:57.040 --> 00:10:02.360 okay someone myself included and some other guy drove over the cable so 00:10:01.079 --> 00:10:07.720 hopefully it's still intact I think it'll be fine do you see it on your side 00:10:04.959 --> 00:10:12.720 no oh there should be an LED hold on okay oh okay we got LEDs on now okay so 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:18.120 like the GPU is definitely on now and my system's locked up the GPU just shut off 00:10:15.680 --> 00:10:21.760 let's let's try replacing that one cable just to see and we'll go from there 00:10:19.959 --> 00:10:27.640 worst case scenario I'll just take you guys and I'll show you where the new 00:10:23.040 --> 00:10:27.640 unit is ow ow ow ow ow 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:34.920 ow okay Jamie plug it in are the LEDs 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:38.600 on yeah I just blue screened again what did you do Colin we're trying to turn it 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:43.680 off on on again and clearly it also turns yours off and on again no GPU what 00:10:41.959 --> 00:10:48.000 do you think Colin can we maybe try to at least plug in a USB drive at the new 00:10:45.880 --> 00:10:52.000 office and I'll transfer a file or something it's the fact that you've got 00:10:49.680 --> 00:10:57.200 this PCIe device over on the other side something like USB is not nearly as 00:10:55.040 --> 00:11:01.079 sensitive to latency so I have one of those Samsung t5s in my pocket Maybe 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:07.279 just plug in that T5 and I'll see if it shows up okay let's do that a come on 00:11:04.680 --> 00:11:11.760 and I'm plugging into the T5 I only see the Seagate fire Cuda so far well the 00:11:09.880 --> 00:11:17.560 Corning reps did tell us this is a bad idea I don't think I was cced on that 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:19.800 email we try it are we on all razor 00:11:17.560 --> 00:11:22.200 docks so far there's two docks there's one on the other side of the fence and 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:27.760 then one in the middle of the parking lot are you plugged into the one that's 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:30.600 at 100 m then the drive is plugged in at 00:11:27.760 --> 00:11:34.760 150 M so you should have one more dock then right no we're plugged in directly 00:11:32.880 --> 00:11:41.320 into the Thunderbolt cable that won't work cuz there's no power a you're right 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:45.839 I'm ah okay yep that's a limitation of optical cables while they can carry data 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:49.760 they need to both be powered and you need to provide separate power for any 00:11:47.680 --> 00:11:53.880 devices you want to plug in so Colin had a little moment there and he tried to 00:11:52.160 --> 00:11:57.680 plug our drive directly into the dock which explains why it wasn't coming up 00:11:55.320 --> 00:12:02.279 so he's going to plug in our third Dock at the 150 M mark Mark and let's see if 00:12:00.560 --> 00:12:06.639 this thing shows up I'm I'm actually pretty hopeful right now what is 00:12:06.880 --> 00:12:14.560 Happ now's as good a time as any to take a closer look at our source here NZ xt's 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:18.760 build systems let you configure your pre-built the way that you would a 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:22.279 custom rig so you can go AMD or Intel they've got a 2-year warranty with two 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:26.320 business day build service and everything else about it is custom now 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:31.240 we actually got an AMD machine originally but because everything about 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:33.360 NZXT build is using off-the-shelf like 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:36.920 Enthusiast grade custom components there was absolutely no compatibility issues 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:43.079 of any sort we're going to have a link below where you can learn all you need to know about NZXT build and let's uh 00:12:40.880 --> 00:12:48.480 check in with how those guys are doing people always tell me I look awkward 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:52.000 when I run this is probably the 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:53.880 case okay we're plugged in uh you seeing 00:12:52.000 --> 00:13:01.480 anything over there they're going over our Thunderbolt 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:04.880 rest in peace cables but it was wasis of 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:08.560 exciting hello oh my God I wasn't on 00:13:04.880 --> 00:13:10.279 speaker nope nothing eh no dice and that 00:13:08.560 --> 00:13:15.360 kind of makes sense because nothing would prevent Corning from making a 100 00:13:12.800 --> 00:13:20.920 meter or a 200 meter version of their cable other than if just the signaling 00:13:19.040 --> 00:13:24.440 didn't handle that kind of distance very well and we were crazy to even try it in 00:13:22.959 --> 00:13:28.800 the first place I guess there's a limit to how far you can go with fibers we 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:32.760 tried though we really did honestly I'm pretty pleased we even made it to 100 m 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.959 even though we didn't make it to the new office so why don't we head over there and I'll show you guys the new location 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:41.120 kind of talk about what we're going to do there so unfortunately we couldn't find another unit in the same complex 00:13:39.800 --> 00:13:45.399 that we're in but we really need the additional space because we want to get 00:13:42.800 --> 00:13:50.720 our hands on some new testing equipment and stuff to really take things to the 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:55.120 next level and there's there's nothing 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:58.399 in our complex so oh we saw a for sale 00:13:55.120 --> 00:14:00.720 sign here it's only about 150 M or about 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:06.120 500 ft as the crow flies from our existing office but because it's so 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:09.160 winding and roundabout here we're probably going to have to get a handful 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:13.600 of electric scooters so people can kind of scoot back and forth between the two 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:17.880 buildings Unfortunately The Possession date isn't for a little bit and the 00:14:15.920 --> 00:14:23.600 existing owners just couldn't be bothered to to let us in just to show it 00:14:20.839 --> 00:14:29.839 to you guys today so it's this guy right here unit 120 so it's about 3,000 ft and 00:14:28.199 --> 00:14:33.639 obviously we couldn't do any of this without you guys watching and sponsors 00:14:31.800 --> 00:14:37.360 like NZXT builds so thanks for sponsoring the video thanks you guys for 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:40.079 watching see you oh if you're looking for something else to watch the last 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:44.560 time we played around with fiber optic cabling was in my house when we had a 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:48.079 single server and then fiber optic DisplayPort and USB running all over 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:51.519 the house so that it could act as the central brain that was a pretty fun 00:14:50.199 --> 00:14:57.600 video there was a dead squirrel which was unfortunate but yeah Colin found it 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.600 in the Attic