1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:09,160 we've talked about fiber optic Thunderbolt cables before and these things are crazy cool they'll do 40 gbit 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:11,080 pers second to distances as long as 50 m 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:15,480 and they're so durable that you can tie them in knots and pull on them like this 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:20,279 without them breaking 50 m i mean that's pretty far but Thunderbolt allows you to 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:26,640 daisy chain multiple docks and peripherals to achieve distances much 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:29,560 much further we have got six spools of 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:35,559 50 m Thunderbolt cables and we are going to be h up this GPU almost 1,000 ft away 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,440 from our computer that's right I'm going to show you guys the new unit where 9 00:00:37,239 --> 00:00:43,960 we're going to be doing some more of our benchmarking and testing and we're going to run the cable all the way there and 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,960 it's sponsored by NZ xt's build so naturally we're going to be using one of 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,640 their gaming PCs as our source except obviously we're going to want to rip 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:56,320 that 380 TI out put it in an external enclosure and then go for a little walk 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,320 here 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:08,080 obviously before we go off adventuring we want to get a baseline for what kind 15 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:13,360 of performance we would expect running a normal just 3ft copper cable from our 16 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:15,640 Thunderbolt port to our GPU here so we're going to go ahead and fire up 17 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:21,600 shadow of the Tomb Raider I'm running at the highest settings 1440p exclusive 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:25,079 full screen with motion blur disabled oh 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,520 come on all right 60 FPS average now 20 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:30,200 let's see what happens when we take it somewhere else David do we want to jump 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,759 the fence or do we want to like go around or what jump the fence baby you 22 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:38,600 want to jump the fence all right let's jump the fence baby in that case I'm 23 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:41,520 going to put the 3080 TI down these 24 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,520 zippers better hold 25 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,200 up oh crap I'm having too much fun 26 00:01:45,399 --> 00:01:51,000 already you need me to hold hold one in here yeah go ahead and plug it in 27 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:56,000 hopefully our neighbors don't like trip over this I hope this works I only 28 00:01:53,240 --> 00:02:02,360 tested it with two cables ow ow ow ow stop oh my God this 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:08,039 fence is barbed wire David oh no they're backing their truck 30 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,759 in long story we need to run a cable all 31 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:13,599 the way from this building to one over there you're backing in now right and 32 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:18,000 then are you guys done for the day oh boy if I got it out of your way now then 33 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:24,080 would be be be good after that probably Hey look it's Brian oh you're good to 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,760 plug in over we're plugged in I will go 35 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:32,879 plug in the GPU why don't you come back and fire up Tomb Raider where'd it go 36 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:37,599 oh we're going to make it sure well no I'm not entirely confident because the 37 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:43,360 thing about Thunderbolt it requires very very tight tolerances in terms of 38 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:45,560 latency at 300 M we are approaching the 39 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:49,599 point where even at the speed of light that is a 40 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:53,640 non-negligible amount of latency for something like a high performance 41 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:59,519 graphics card so I'm hoping we will make it the full 350 M but this is by no 42 00:02:57,319 --> 00:03:05,200 means a guarantee I actually lied a little because you don't need both a hub 43 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:08,159 and the GPU at one node at a time so we only need one of these at a time we only 44 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:14,200 need one of these at a time yeah that's fine we'll test 50 m first okay so is 45 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:17,159 this is this thing on hello oh yeah yeah 46 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:20,640 the RGB's on okay oh man these hikes back and forth are going to get pretty 47 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:23,640 stupid that's a long way around 48 00:03:25,799 --> 00:03:32,159 uh we got the spol let's go we got a 49 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:36,959 blue screen on the computer so I'm just um restarting 50 00:03:33,519 --> 00:03:38,680 it okay good luck I unplugged it while 51 00:03:36,959 --> 00:03:43,840 the game was running and I think it just got a little confused we are off to a 52 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:49,760 real good start here ooh that's very interesting we've dropped 15% of our 53 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:53,239 performance already wow okay uh come 54 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:57,239 grab this cable then 15% is that because 55 00:03:53,239 --> 00:03:59,360 of the raw distance is it because of the 56 00:03:57,239 --> 00:04:05,599 signal translation that's happening to confirm to Optical and then back will it 57 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,599 get worse I feel like Ned Flanders 58 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,720 just oh oh hi there hi oh I see you 59 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:16,880 there's a Thunderbolt glory hole going on over here yeah yeah my poor new 60 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:23,199 jacket all right so let's go ahead we're going to unplug our Thunderbolt GPU plug 61 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:26,680 in our first Thunderbolt dock which is 62 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:28,560 acting as a hey Colin hi razor in their 63 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:33,639 Infinite Wisdom doesn't label this bloody thing does this one support daisy 64 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:37,400 chaining I think so let's double check that cuz I actually use one of these at 65 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:42,000 home and I think it might not and I'm going to go get the rest of what we need 66 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:46,080 so another Hub another jackary and uh I 67 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,080 will be right back ye I believe what 68 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:52,720 we've done here is supposed to work now something to note is that external gpus 69 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:58,840 are really not supposed to be hooked up through a hub at all let 70 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:01,520 alone five hubs we have no idea if this 71 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:07,919 is going to work at all let alone well oh hi there Hi Neighbor howdy neighbor 72 00:05:04,919 --> 00:05:11,360 would you like a graphics card I would 73 00:05:07,919 --> 00:05:13,560 um and a Cable cable and a jackary oh 74 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,840 right um well here should I just come for a little ride with you you're just 75 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:25,639 going to ride on the cart yeah yeah I was just going to and I'll tow you scoot it no five bucks say I Biff with this 76 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:29,600 3080 ti ti ti that's something 77 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:29,600 one-handed let me tell you 78 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,520 okay we got the 380 TI Linus is I think 79 00:05:34,919 --> 00:05:40,319 scoot scooting the jackary and stuff over really we should have handed it over the fence I don't know what we were 80 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:45,919 thinking in the meantime we can spool out this cable straight down the parking 81 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,880 lot see see how much further we can get 82 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:55,560 this line oh oh no there's one more 83 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:57,560 winding okay that's another 50 m uh the 84 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:04,680 building we're going to is just the next complex to the right there and it's unit 85 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:07,840 120 120 yeah okay uh oh I totally need a 86 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:11,520 oh even better I needed both of these 87 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:13,800 things thunderboard dock is powered oh 88 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:17,479 boy it's barbed wire no way I'm aiming for that spot 89 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,680 right there what what could go wrong yvon's 90 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:26,039 going to kill me now that's 91 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:29,240 interesting oh I think our performance is actually better this time around I 92 00:06:27,599 --> 00:06:33,280 think it might have just been the driver being kind of like bugged out from the 93 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:39,240 sudden disconnection before it's starting to rain so this is my genius 94 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:44,599 idea uh we'll just put a Rubbermaid bin 95 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:46,520 on top of garbage bags um 55 FPS so wait 96 00:06:44,599 --> 00:06:49,960 no that's worse again I didn't see any weird stuttering or anything in the game 97 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:54,120 playay the performance is a little bit worse it seems like we're losing there's 98 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:59,680 a little bit of overhead with each of our hubs that we're going 99 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:04,599 through man you know as much as it might not be as good performance as you would 100 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,960 expect from a 380 TI it's sure as heck 101 00:07:04,599 --> 00:07:10,360 running if our display and our peripherals were at the other end right 102 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:15,400 so the computer's got a Thunderbolt connection and we're gaming over on that 103 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:20,000 side the run is 100 m but actually it has to go round trip okay so you got 104 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:23,400 your PCI Express run going to your GPU over there and then the GPU actually has 105 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:28,759 to send back the DisplayPort information all the way back to us here 106 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,039 so it's going 200 M you guys are good to 107 00:07:28,759 --> 00:07:34,199 unplug okay here we go so unplug that yep you 108 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:39,560 want to handle carrying the graphics card M this is our third 50 m cable okay 109 00:07:38,479 --> 00:07:47,159 we're just going to plug it in willy-nilly keep it kind 110 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:49,560 of Y yep yep mhm MH oh jeez 111 00:07:47,159 --> 00:07:54,400 mhm fiber optics don't mind being run over right we're going to just drive 112 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:58,080 over the fiber optic there okay give it a couple seconds here but the you should 113 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:02,440 see the GPU real soon let's try and make make this faster 114 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:08,039 we can run the next line while we wait sorry about the Landscaping uh those are 115 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,479 roses ow ow okay we're in unit 120 116 00:08:08,039 --> 00:08:13,560 apparently I have no idea where that is do you know where unit 120 is which 117 00:08:11,319 --> 00:08:18,759 address are you talking uh I can find out what address is unit 120 located 118 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:25,680 in this is very interesting I managed to launch the game but I haven't made it 119 00:08:23,479 --> 00:08:29,639 past the splash screen ooh we're hitting a limitation how close are you guys to 120 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:33,519 the new office I don't know which building we're 121 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:36,919 in I see the problem it launched with the wrong GPU let me see if I can get 122 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:41,440 this sorted out on my side still no information on which building I need to 123 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,800 go to classic lus the NVIDIA GPU is not 124 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,720 showing up I'm going to give the system a quick restart and see if it pops up 125 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:49,920 but you might want to give me an unplug and replug okay I'll walk back to it now 126 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:55,560 how sure are you that you're plugged into the correct ports on the Razer one 127 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:57,320 the input is the one on the front oh 128 00:08:55,560 --> 00:09:02,000 then I'm definitely not plugged in the right one okay so we're in the front 129 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:06,600 Port now I think at the back it doesn't matter okay I want to make it very clear 130 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:12,920 and this is not just because Corning sent us a bunch of their Thunderbolt cables this is far beyond what is 131 00:09:10,959 --> 00:09:19,519 reasonable for this spec we just want to see the limits I got no GPU showing up yet okay 132 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:23,920 I just unplugged and replugged it it's still not showing up do you want to try 133 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,920 the same port that I 134 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:31,519 did already 135 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:39,079 it's that building right there the the middle one or the right one right the 136 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:45,880 one with the red oning there okay said it was down the right 137 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:49,600 side is it showing up at all I'm like kind of worried that the cable got 138 00:09:47,399 --> 00:09:54,519 mushed when someone drove over it wait Colin can you hear me I'm expecting he's 139 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:59,120 going to team call me y there it is my walkie-talkie battery died a shocker 140 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:02,360 okay someone myself included and some other guy drove over the cable so 141 00:10:01,079 --> 00:10:07,720 hopefully it's still intact I think it'll be fine do you see it on your side 142 00:10:04,959 --> 00:10:12,720 no oh there should be an LED hold on okay oh okay we got LEDs on now okay so 143 00:10:10,279 --> 00:10:18,120 like the GPU is definitely on now and my system's locked up the GPU just shut off 144 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:21,760 let's let's try replacing that one cable just to see and we'll go from there 145 00:10:19,959 --> 00:10:27,640 worst case scenario I'll just take you guys and I'll show you where the new 146 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,640 unit is ow ow ow ow ow 147 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:34,920 ow okay Jamie plug it in are the LEDs 148 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,600 on yeah I just blue screened again what did you do Colin we're trying to turn it 149 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:43,680 off on on again and clearly it also turns yours off and on again no GPU what 150 00:10:41,959 --> 00:10:48,000 do you think Colin can we maybe try to at least plug in a USB drive at the new 151 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:52,000 office and I'll transfer a file or something it's the fact that you've got 152 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:57,200 this PCIe device over on the other side something like USB is not nearly as 153 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:01,079 sensitive to latency so I have one of those Samsung t5s in my pocket Maybe 154 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:07,279 just plug in that T5 and I'll see if it shows up okay let's do that a come on 155 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:11,760 and I'm plugging into the T5 I only see the Seagate fire Cuda so far well the 156 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:17,560 Corning reps did tell us this is a bad idea I don't think I was cced on that 157 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:19,800 email we try it are we on all razor 158 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:22,200 docks so far there's two docks there's one on the other side of the fence and 159 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:27,760 then one in the middle of the parking lot are you plugged into the one that's 160 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:30,600 at 100 m then the drive is plugged in at 161 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:34,760 150 M so you should have one more dock then right no we're plugged in directly 162 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:41,320 into the Thunderbolt cable that won't work cuz there's no power a you're right 163 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:45,839 I'm ah okay yep that's a limitation of optical cables while they can carry data 164 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:49,760 they need to both be powered and you need to provide separate power for any 165 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:53,880 devices you want to plug in so Colin had a little moment there and he tried to 166 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,680 plug our drive directly into the dock which explains why it wasn't coming up 167 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:02,279 so he's going to plug in our third Dock at the 150 M mark Mark and let's see if 168 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:06,639 this thing shows up I'm I'm actually pretty hopeful right now what is 169 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:14,560 Happ now's as good a time as any to take a closer look at our source here NZ xt's 170 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:18,760 build systems let you configure your pre-built the way that you would a 171 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:22,279 custom rig so you can go AMD or Intel they've got a 2-year warranty with two 172 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:26,320 business day build service and everything else about it is custom now 173 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:31,240 we actually got an AMD machine originally but because everything about 174 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,360 NZXT build is using off-the-shelf like 175 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,920 Enthusiast grade custom components there was absolutely no compatibility issues 176 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:43,079 of any sort we're going to have a link below where you can learn all you need to know about NZXT build and let's uh 177 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:48,480 check in with how those guys are doing people always tell me I look awkward 178 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:52,000 when I run this is probably the 179 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,880 case okay we're plugged in uh you seeing 180 00:12:52,000 --> 00:13:01,480 anything over there they're going over our Thunderbolt 181 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:04,880 rest in peace cables but it was wasis of 182 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:08,560 exciting hello oh my God I wasn't on 183 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:10,279 speaker nope nothing eh no dice and that 184 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:15,360 kind of makes sense because nothing would prevent Corning from making a 100 185 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:20,920 meter or a 200 meter version of their cable other than if just the signaling 186 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:24,440 didn't handle that kind of distance very well and we were crazy to even try it in 187 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:28,800 the first place I guess there's a limit to how far you can go with fibers we 188 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:32,760 tried though we really did honestly I'm pretty pleased we even made it to 100 m 189 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,959 even though we didn't make it to the new office so why don't we head over there and I'll show you guys the new location 190 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:41,120 kind of talk about what we're going to do there so unfortunately we couldn't find another unit in the same complex 191 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:45,399 that we're in but we really need the additional space because we want to get 192 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:50,720 our hands on some new testing equipment and stuff to really take things to the 193 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:55,120 next level and there's there's nothing 194 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:58,399 in our complex so oh we saw a for sale 195 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,720 sign here it's only about 150 M or about 196 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:06,120 500 ft as the crow flies from our existing office but because it's so 197 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:09,160 winding and roundabout here we're probably going to have to get a handful 198 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:13,600 of electric scooters so people can kind of scoot back and forth between the two 199 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:17,880 buildings Unfortunately The Possession date isn't for a little bit and the 200 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:23,600 existing owners just couldn't be bothered to to let us in just to show it 201 00:14:20,839 --> 00:14:29,839 to you guys today so it's this guy right here unit 120 so it's about 3,000 ft and 202 00:14:28,199 --> 00:14:33,639 obviously we couldn't do any of this without you guys watching and sponsors 203 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,360 like NZXT builds so thanks for sponsoring the video thanks you guys for 204 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:40,079 watching see you oh if you're looking for something else to watch the last 205 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:44,560 time we played around with fiber optic cabling was in my house when we had a 206 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:48,079 single server and then fiber optic DisplayPort and USB running all over 207 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:51,519 the house so that it could act as the central brain that was a pretty fun 208 00:14:50,199 --> 00:14:57,600 video there was a dead squirrel which was unfortunate but yeah Colin found it 209 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,600 in the Attic