{"video_id":"IkczKI_K8bA","title":"MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 COPPER Twin Frozr Golden Edition Unboxing & First Look Linus Tech Tips","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2011-05-08T14:53:29Z","duration_s":480,"segments":[{"start_s":0.48,"end_s":9.519,"text":"today we're going to be doing an unboxing for a pretty unique product","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":4.0,"end_s":12.36,"text":"this is the MSI n465 GTX twin frozer to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.519,"end_s":16.119,"text":"golden edition so this is an all copper design for the cooler that's one of the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.559,"end_s":22.6,"text":"big things about this card but there's a couple other things as well it's got a three-year warranty in Canada and the US","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.08,"end_s":27.32,"text":"it uses their military class concept of components including their 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uh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":415.44,"end_s":421.16,"text":"let me see if there's anything else that uh we should talk about briefly here","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":419.12,"end_s":425.36,"text":"High heat sink okay that makes a lot of sense oh yeah I should mention that even","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":423.16,"end_s":429.8,"text":"though this is an extremely heavy extremely high-end cooler it's still","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":427.639,"end_s":434.039,"text":"only a dual slot design so you don't have to worry about uh taking up an","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":432.0,"end_s":437.8,"text":"additional slot next to your graphics card another thing that should be noted","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":435.96,"end_s":441.919,"text":"and this is kind of okay this is a bit of an odd design choice but you see the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":440.039,"end_s":446.36,"text":"Shroud that they've put over top with your serial number as well as the MSI","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":444.24,"end_s":449.72,"text":"branding it actually goes back a little bit further than the video card itself","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":448.08,"end_s":455.12,"text":"so make sure you've got enough room in your case to install this card because","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":452.08,"end_s":458.28,"text":"it is a touch longer than a regular GTX","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":455.12,"end_s":462.759,"text":"465 now MSI claims that this cooler is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":458.28,"end_s":465.68,"text":"up to 16° cooler and up to 21° or 21 DB","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":462.759,"end_s":468.84,"text":"quieter than the stock GTX 465 cooler and we will take a look at what kind of","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":466.84,"end_s":474.919,"text":"tempts we can get out of it but I think that pretty much covers everything I","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":470.36,"end_s":478.56,"text":"wanted to say that is the MSI uh GTX 465","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":474.919,"end_s":481.44,"text":"twin frozer 2 golden edition graphics","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":478.56,"end_s":481.44,"text":"card","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"today we're going to be doing an unboxing for a pretty unique product this is the MSI n465 GTX twin frozer to golden edition so this is an all copper design for the cooler that's one of the big things about this card but there's a couple other things as well it's got a three-year warranty in Canada and the US it uses their military class concept of components including their tantalum capacitor solid state chokes meaning no buzzing underload for cards that do feature that uh that particular aspect of military class as well as solid capacitors which they claim a minimum of a 10-year lifetime for it does support all of your typical NVIDIA functionality such as Cuda SLI including three-way SLI physics as well as 3D Vision including 3D Vision surround it has 1 gig of gddr5 it has voltage adjustment uh via MSI afterburner software and I think I was going to say something else no I was not all right so here's another little um outline of the military class components so here's the no buzz thing I was talking about so with ring chokes you can get kind of a high-pitched uh vibration or it can sound like a squeal uh it's very very obnoxious if you've ever hadir a card that that uh that does this you'll know what I'm talking about whereas with a solid state choke you do not hear it and I've used a couple of MSI's military class cards already and I have observed that I do not get any whining noises from from them whatsoever so this is a direct contact okay here we're talking mostly about the cooler so why don't we take the card out first and then we'll talk about the cooler while we can actually look at it that would be better ooh it has a black box Black Box is always nice okay I have to say first of all I am quite disappointed um it did say golden edition and it turned out that it was made of copper so I was really hoping that this card would weigh like you know um 90 pounds but uh it's getting up there this probably weighs about as much as um as almost any other graphics card I've encountered i' I'd estimate that's at a good 4 lbs for that card let's have a look at the accessories that are included we've got two Molex to one PCIe six pin connector a mini HDMI to HDMI connector and another two Molex to six pin PCIe connector and then underneath we have some other stuff we have a quick users guide a D VI to HDMI adapter DVI to VGA adapter uh their afterburner software and it says Hey download the latest version right here that's what to do MSI's got that figured out all right and then what else do we have here this is how to use their live update uh software to update your drivers Okay cool so let's get the card out here man this thing weighs so much that's awesome uh it looks like it's using um either a reference PCB or a slightly modified one it's hard for me to say right now because it does have a twin frozer cooler on it but you can see on the back it has the hole for the uh for the stock fan so I'm not sure whether they've altered the PCB I don't have a GTX 465 with me here on the Park Bench to compare against I'm going to just take off this little cover on the PC Express uh MSI does these little covers on everything that's uh very unique to them okay so these are individually numbered I actually don't know how many they produced but let's uh let's take a okay let's look at the overall card layout and then we'll look at the cooler much closer near the end so first of all this is a PCI Express 2.0 16x card that's your typical thing as I mentioned before you've got support for two-way as well as three-way SLI with this particular card you've got your MSI branding up here on the top with your twin frozer 2 as well as your unique number and then we have two six pin PCIe power connectors this is quite a power hungry card because it is based on the fmy architecture let's move around to the bottom so this is a four pin pwm fan that uh is using a little adapter to run two fans off the one header here on the video card moving around to the back yeah here we go uh limited offer number 600 98 so this is card number 698 out of all of the golden edition cards they produced and on the back we find a custom um IO shield with MSI logo on it as well as some other vents for air to come out and then we've got a mini HDMI as well as two DVI ports now this cooler is not going to exhaust all of the air directly out of the back of the case but it will do some so you see the fins are actually okay here I don't know how to give you guys a good angle at this it looks really cool but it's hard to uh hard to really demonstrate it okay so you see the fins run this way right so what happens is when the fans blow down it means the air flow is either going to go that way or that way so basically uh a small portion of the air flow from this fan will be exhausted directly out of the case whereas from this fan it's all going to end up in your case as long as you have good a case air flow this isn't going to be a problem but if you don't have good case airflow then you can run into a little bit of trouble and I want to really look at the way the heat pipes are positioned on this cooler because I think this is really clever they've got five heat pipes directly over the GPU core so if you look down there you can see right where the GPU is right there and three of these are 6 mm heat pipes and two of them are MSI's 8 mm Super pipes so what the super pipes do is they're positioned at both of the outside edges and they carry the heat away the furthest from the GPU itself so what that means is that wherever it's sort of has to cover a much greater distance they're using super pipes so that you can still take advantage of the copper fins that are over here and over here at the very edges of the cooler actually oh yeah that's one of the things that they do have on here another thing that they're using is a oh what was I going to say okay I'll just say the next thing I was going to say okay so the middle heat pipe you can see here goes right to the middle of the cooler so that one is the one that goes directly over the GPU core and it's able to take advantage of the air flow air flow from both of these fans and I I guess I'll just let you kind of look at this for a little bit because it's really cool the way that they lay out the heat pipes with all five of them carrying heat to completely different parts of this cooler so that you can really take advantage of this huge copper block I mean it's basically a brick of copper on top of this card uh let me see if there's anything else that uh we should talk about briefly here High heat sink okay that makes a lot of sense oh yeah I should mention that even though this is an extremely heavy extremely high-end cooler it's still only a dual slot design so you don't have to worry about uh taking up an additional slot next to your graphics card another thing that should be noted and this is kind of okay this is a bit of an odd design choice but you see the Shroud that they've put over top with your serial number as well as the MSI branding it actually goes back a little bit further than the video card itself so make sure you've got enough room in your case to install this card because it is a touch longer than a regular GTX 465 now MSI claims that this cooler is up to 16° cooler and up to 21° or 21 DB quieter than the stock GTX 465 cooler and we will take a look at what kind of tempts we can get out of it but I think that pretty much covers everything I wanted to say that is the MSI uh GTX 465 twin frozer 2 golden edition graphics card"}