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we see a lot of Wild Tech around here but this this is the wildest we've seen

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in a long time like here's a question you need to ask yourself how many ssds

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do you need in your computer one

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two three how

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about 21 of them that's right we got it

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the Apex storage x21 it's absolutely

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cramp packed full of m.2 slots Each of

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which contains a Sab Rock ET 4 plus 88

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TB SSD that's right friends I'm holding

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a casual 168 tab of storage and this

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thing is so fast it shocked even the CEO of Apex storage just like I'm going to

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careful have you ever held 150 terabytes

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in the palm of your hand these things are worth more than my car and my car is

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new it's a 21 yeah he is a pretty good car kind of a car

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guy all right really the star of the show is this though there are only three

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of these cards in existence but if the buzz around it is anything to go by

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there's soon to be a lot more of them unlike some PCIe slot-based ssds the

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Apex storage x21 allows you to mix and match any commodity m.2 drives that you

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want and even upgrade them down the line because all you're doing is taking this

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PCIe by6 Gen 4 slot and splitting it up

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to all the attached drives and oh boy can you attach a lot of drives this

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controller at its heart can apparently handle up to a 100 PCI E lanes and the

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best part is you can install this in any m board you don't need a server board

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that supports PCI slot bifurcation all

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of that's handled on board and another feature I'm really excited about is that

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apparently you can hot swap the ssds on

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the board I don't want to do that we're going to have to try that don't want to

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do that we're going to have to try that I mean sabrent would want us to shout

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out sabr by the way they asked us hey if we send you those drives can you guys

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mention Us in the video I was like I will suck on your toes for this many

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drives so uh you'll find them Linked In the video description it's an SSD but it

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actually takes up as much space in your computer as a GPU and has the same

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number of power connectors okay there's six pin PCIe instead of 8 Pin PCIe but

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still how much power does this thing draw I don't think it's that much oh my

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God right I knew that I knew that these are over $1,000 but still it just didn't

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register yeah holy crap crap so what are they

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hold on a second what are they doing here this looks like it's got to be at

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least a PCIe by8 link this has got to be

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another PCIe by 16 actually looking closer at the layout of the

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daughterboard that makes sense this top slot here is routed to these four and

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these four on the back so a total of eight drives to this 6X slot and these

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four here are routed to the other one that gives us a probable total of two

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lanes per Drive which might seem like oh that's a bottleneck cuz this rocket 8

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tab can do 7 GB a second and that's only 3 and a half but when we consider that

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the system is accessing all these drives through a single PCIe by6 slot I don't

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think it's going to be a major factor for performance that is something we

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could test though by running a speed test on just one drive installed in the

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card we should do that hey oh sure yeah I kind of want to try it there's other

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stuff to look at here six pin PCIe power connector I mean should we pop the heat

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sink go for it I kind of want to look at it right I'm assuming we have to send

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this back hey I don't know oh who the

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heck are these guys it's so wild they come out of basically nowhere and

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they're like yep we've got more ssds than anyone else that's what you get for

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being asleep on the job switch Tech pfx

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I don't know why but I was like expecting an fpga or something I guess

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that makes sense that it wouldn't be since you're not really doing any logic

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on the board if it was some kind of raid

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card or something like that then maybe but if all this is doing is just PCIe

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switching then it doesn't have to be that maybe there's an fpga somewhere

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else no it looks like the whole thing is just this chip just this chip it's

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bigger than most CPUs I mean yeah well yeah yeah yeah I

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mean I'm not not undermining the coolness of the chip I'm just and where

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would we normally find something like this I'm imagining like a PCIe fabric

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like rack mount switch or something or

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I don't even know I I don't rightly know

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sir it can be used in Metro networks and

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core networking cellular infrastructure

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broadcast equipment I would imagine anyone building out composable PCIe over

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fiber infrastructure might use something like this man those things are wild you

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can have a whole bunch of PCIe devices just connected over fiber optic cables

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to a switch and then you can have your systems and then on the Fly you can

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assign I know put um six gpus in that

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one and it just connects to

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anyway okay and I do want to say the hot

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plug support that I said is on the data sheet for this chip not the data sheet

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for this whole solution well start with

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one which one's going to be the lucky slot here why would you start with one

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because I want to see if they each get two lanes oh yes well but you can just

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do that with all them on there yeah I just I want to see how it behaves with

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one okay okay this is awkward we need to

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move our GPU 4070 by the way 4070 ah all

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right let's turn it back on

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yeah you were here the whole time I did nothing you did touch it though I well I

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touched it so you want the GPU in now yep thing is uh oh you can't put it in

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this slot because then we get by eight and by eight all right we need all 16

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PCIe Gen 4 lanes for our SSD so I guess

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we're putting it in this 1X slot yes one sec that's the stupidest thing ever

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really does it does it touch something is it going to short out yes yeah I'm

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giving it a sec oh oh I don't think it got green before hold on

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hey patience all right this GPU is in at

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a very uncomfortable angle sir yeah I I

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don't love it and our one dis shows up

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oh I see you've did you configure this in a Windows software raid zero yes

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that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and I love it all right let's uh

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we can also do the BIOS raid if you want that would be smarter although I've had

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some issues with AMD PCIe raid and you know reformatting Windows and getting

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confused and stuff so I don't know I mean if we're doing something we'd never

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recommend anyway it doesn't really matter how we do it

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so my theory my theory then is that this is only going to get us a buy two

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connection no wait how does that work

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it's claiming to be PCI gen 4x4 right but wait the connection

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through the PCI switch chip would be at

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least by four but then then the drive wouldn't

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report that okay let's just try yeah let's see what it does man if they wired

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every slot up for four lanes they did they wired every slot for four lanes

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that dramatically increases the cost but

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also dramatically increases the utility of this product because under normal

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circumstances you wouldn't do something dumb like configure 21 drives in a raid

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zero you would have this in a system that's got a lot of CPU resources as

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well and then you would be dividing up that Solid State Storage sometimes

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leasing it to separate clients so some of them might be using it when others

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aren't which means being able to get the full throughput to one Drive could

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matter depending on your use case that's pretty cool that's awesome let's add

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another Drive H please turn it off I

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don't seems like a really bad idea I'm a little nervous too please do

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remember each of these drives is $1,500 1,500 bucks

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hey oh let's get a cheaper one I think I

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have one in my backpack of course

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I mean why wouldn't I right don't you keep an SSD in your backpack

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hey Good Old Reliable crucial only 500

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gigs okay you're doing a great service for your

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country oh light turned on oh yeah that's something it's not there but also

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this is still working so I kind of consider that a

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win holy crap even though it was isn't

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doing anything it's like flipping hot oh

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wow I just installed 32 tab of SSD on

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here oh looks so good 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

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they're all here sick and you can maybe changing that to

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raid changes it I don't actually know no it's

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somewhere oh but just

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just let it go past the BIOS oh oh wait

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what now do you see why I had a Windows raid well you have to physically remove

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the drives from the system we don't even have them configured in a raid you just

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can't in the BIOS it's too many for am5 this must be

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a consumer platform lock down thing

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because otherwise you could totally just

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run it does Intel let you do it I'm not

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entirely sure oh maybe what I said earlier about just

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being able to throw this in a nuck and boom SSD server isn't true then AMD

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locks it down buttheads man I'm

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disappointed you got to put this in a Server Motherboard what the average

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consumer doesn't have $2,800 to spend on an m.2 carrier card so AMD didn't think

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of that well I guess what I need to do then is go back into dis

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management and fix your raid that I broke yes oh boy this will be tedious

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oh can can you not just click like add to volume and it figures it out it's

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raid zero the volume is dead oh oh what haha okay it worked I

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have no idea what just happened there but I'm into it oh yeah oh yeah I'm

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going to call you Big

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D yes thank you for hitting quick format

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I did not hit that once it took like 5 hours it was 5:30 I was

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just like all right see you tomorrow and that's on ssds I've done

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that with hard drives before wait have you like actually run Windows raid zero

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in a system sort of I was running

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multiple raid cards running raid five Hardware raid five and then I raid

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zeroed them in Windows that's one of the early

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iterations of WX server

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actually this blows my mind wao you okay

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yep I'm fine okay this is the maximum speed of some things okay SATA 600

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megabytes a second okay PCIe 3.0 3.4

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single one of these drives 7 GB a second

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ddr4 25.6 GB per second all right these

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drives are already getting pretty toasty here I haven't even done anything yet we

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should get us we should get some Cooling on this or wait well yeah check the

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camera yeah let's check the camera first okay uh Alex that heat sinks at 90° all

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right let's uh that means the Chip's probably hotter uh yeah the fact that these 55°

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ssds didn't look hot in the frame is a bad thing well wait how are you even

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supposed to access any of the fan ports they're all down here there's a bunch of

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fan ports uh uh so do you want to zip tie that on the back here really yes so

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our method oh oh I see we're making like

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a tunnel yes with cardboard yes of

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course we are oh my God Alex what the

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hell what it's highly effective uh iip

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okay so what the hell is going on here

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it's fine it's fine you know this is barely in the slot right yeah what fan

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is that not as good as it was before

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what I found worked really well cuz I took one zip tie really well you say yes

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really well right up through there oh my

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God now one of those and I was The Reckless idiot for trying hot swap so

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that can go on there and then I found it worked really

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well if the other one went through the GPU um hold on I need another zip tie

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now I'm participating I'm officially party to this okay it's at

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74° okay y they're all at like 30 6 35°

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now down from 50 60 heck yeah nice it

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works okay gigabytes

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is now I want to make something clear just because that's as fast as a stick

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of memory and I don't even just mean you know theoretically when you're

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addressing it raw this is with file

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system overhead doesn't mean that you could use

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it as RAM the latency is going to be

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much much higher even if the bandwidth is off the charts unbelievable let's

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just have a look here oh yeah how many threads are we given it it looks like

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four four is kind of where it seemed the

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happiest in Windows oh okay so four for all uh sure we are right at the

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theoretical limit of this slot yeah I

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mean that's the thing right is we're putting so many drives behind it that

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the SSD control the Nan flash none of these bottlenecks

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exist anymore you're actually limited by the PCIe

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slot at least in sequential workloads as

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these random ones come up you're going to see oh wow 2 gbes a second is aing

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lot that's wow uh it's obviously nowhere

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near the capabilities of the slot we'd have to put

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another what what would that work out to about 200 drives on one of these

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carriers you know at a q depth of 32 in a random workload to really like

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saturate the PCI E slop but still now

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that I've said it I'm sure those wild people over at Apex storage are going to

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try and build one now it's worth noting you've seen speeds like this before in

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the past in fact with an inexpensive carrier board that relies on the

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motherboard to do the bifurcation and just four ssds you can put a benchmark

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numbers like this no problem that's actually what I was running in my old personal rig the issue though is can

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only see these kinds of numbers under ideal conditions when those ssds are

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acting in their SLC cache mode as soon as you hit them with any kind of

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sustained load especially a long right

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they are going to absolutely plumet with the x21 though having so many drives

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running in parallel we weren't able to change these numbers no matter how hard

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we hit the array oh wow it is actually

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using 100% of these discs at least if task manager is to be believed that is a

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lot of of data to be moving around in like 5 6 seconds yep I don't even know

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what to do to like show how fast it is cuz like what do we do check like an SSD

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in here or like an SD card is fast

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enough to keep up with it it's not fast enough that is way too slow there's no

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way we're going to be able to wait that long okay so we'll just fire up Linux

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sure all right the reason we're firing up Linux and doing this is not because

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we're expecting to see faster sequential speed I mean we were already at the

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theoretical limits of what that slot can do in Windows but in Linux we have a lot

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more control over our hardware and we are expecting to overcome some of

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Windows' limitations in terms of iops and iops are far more important for the

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kinds of applications that folks buying a carrier card like this might care

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about so things like databases or many

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many users accessing this storage all at the same time it's a measure of how many

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operation per second our storage array can perform assuming that every one of

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those transactions is very very small which is much more realistic for some

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context normal SSD is what like somewhere around a million like a really

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really good SSD honey badger was somewhere around 4

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to 6 million that's that was obscene really really fast especially at the

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time okay and

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go what the heck

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hell so this is very small files to get around the PCI limitations but it shows

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you kind of the upper limits of what we can expect like I alluded to when we

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were running tests in Windows this is without the burden of a file system it's

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going down yeah it's still stupid just wanted

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to check something can you think of any

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reason why our iops would gradually fall

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on this array as we run the test in Linux if it's doing any rights then it

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could be because of that oh is it doing

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rights is it doing rights I don't know um I'm not entirely sure how it's doing

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that right now but it could also be that it's heating

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up okay I suspect it's the rights thing

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I just wasn't sure if this test was actually writing to the

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drives yeah I'm not sure if it is either it seems to be kind of settling in now

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anyway and it's still at 40 million I Ops yeah I mean it could be that uh

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originally it was like really high uh bur because of like the the dam cach and

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all that kind of stuff but uh now it's settled into the natural iops all right

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see you later so I lied earlier then we

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did manage to overcome the SLC cache just it's still really fast I do kind of

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want to know where it ends up it seems like it's ending up here cuz it went

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slower and now it's gone faster oh yeah

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wow I thought it would just kind fall a lot I mean the speed of an individual

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Drive will fall by as much as like a tenth sometimes when it goes from cash

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mode to just like steady state where it has to do garbage collection in the

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background that's really fast there's just so much nand that it can do things

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in the background and still pump out these crazy numbers yep now as much fun

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as that was this is a serious tool for serious work and you're probably

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wondering well just what kind of serious applications are people using cards like

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this for we asked Apex storage and while they couldn't give us exact names they

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said that their pre-orders are from people who intend to use them for

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Enterprise data center like applications and this is to take advantage of the

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falling prices of flash right now uh think of something like a high

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performance version of back Blaze where they could use consumer hardware and

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then pass those cost savings along to the customers they also have pre-orders

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from folks in the digital forensic space who are excited by the size and speed

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with the ability to add cards into existing workstations and they've had

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interest from high-end performance users and video editors who are excited to use

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it with 4K and 8K footage other than the capacity I don't really see any reason

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why you would need this for video editing but sure there's apparently also

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people in the AI space since well you work with these giant data sets and if

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you've got spicy gpus we should Chia mine on

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it chew through a lot of data in general

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Apex summarized their customers as being really anyone one who spends a lot of

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time writing to and reading from discs the more iops and bandwidth that you

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need at this kind of capacity the more it's going to improve your Computing

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case uh some of which they probably haven't even thought of yet and I share

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your sentiment I'm also excited to see where people use these and I'm excited

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