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NVIDIA welcome to another Linus Tech tips video where we have a pretty

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exciting comparison for you guys we're going to be doing the FX 8350

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overclocked versus The Core i5

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3570k also overclocked now our methodology for this is actually let's

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do test bench first so test bench wise

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we've got equivalent boards so a Crosshair five formula and then a

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Maximus 5 formula these are both Rog top

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tier well not quite but almost top tier gaming boards from ASUS we've got

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mushkin Copperhead 1600 RAM now these

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look kind of special but they're not really anything special in terms of the

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spec they're just regular cl9 1600 MHz

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memory for our GPU we've decided to go with a GTX 660 Ti because it's one of

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those well it's very very very popular it's one of those ones where if you're

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buying a gaming system of this tier this is pretty much the graphics card that

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we'd recommend that you put in it we're using a Vertex 4 for our operating

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system and we are running all of our games off of an ice scuzzy drive over

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the network we are cooled by an h100 which is what allows us to hit these

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overclocked frequencies and other than that I think we're good to go so the CPU

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should be pretty self-explanatory our 8350 we scoured the internets for both

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the 8350 and the 3570k to find out what

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the overclock that 95% of people were going to be able to obtain so we didn't

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go for as the best that we could do on these chips it was based on what we know

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you guys are going to be able to do so they might look a little conservative so

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our 8350 is clocked at 4.6 GHz and our

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3570k is clocked at 4.2 GHz cuz we

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consider those pretty much guaranteed numbers so this video is going to focus

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on Windows 7 we are going to do a number of different videos about this and

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different scenarios so this is Windows 7 without maxing out the game sort of like

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crazy this is sort of how we would probably actually run them so many of

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the games are run without anti-aliasing because I personally don't like it I do

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find there's more input leg when I run antialiasing so take that for what it is

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um but why are we running these tests these two CPUs are sort of widely

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regarded as well the 3570 is the only choice for gamers uh sort of out there

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on the forums and Logan from Tech Syndicate actually released a video

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showing that the 8350 was competitive or even beat the 3570 in many games not

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only that but Crisis 3 recently came out with several Publications saying that

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the 8350 performed better than a 3570k in that particular game so we were

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like okay well we have the hardware we have the time sort of

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um slick has the time and uh so let's

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run these tests let's find out what's going on here so let's start with Starcraft 2 Starcraft 2 we have a pretty

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CPU intensive Benchmark our benchmarking guide for Starcraft 2 is available if

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you click the uh video annotation here go check it out you can run our

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Benchmark for yourself pretty CPU intensive and the

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3570k kind of runs away with this one now you can see the average frame rates

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on the graph right here minimum frame rates were pretty much the same story

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with the 3570k coming in at 57 minimum

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and the 8350 coming in at 42 minimum however it should be noted that these

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this game is playable regardless of whether you're running at 40 or 57 FPS

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but it is a big performance difference 30% all right next up we've got Far Cry

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3 so this is a new game running on cry engine 3 and we saw very very similar

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performance between the 3570k and the 8350 at our overclocks pretty much the

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same and this was true of the minimum frame rates as well so it was 43 for the

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8350 and 44 FPS minimum for the 3570k so

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the I don't know I mean there's like those reports about cry engine 3

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favorite AMD architectures and multi- threading and all that good stuff may be

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true cuz our 3770 performed a lot better than the 3570k in uh Far Cry 3 so more

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threads more better Crisis 3 similar

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story again with the averages now this this was kind of a funny one the

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averages were almost the same which is what you guys see but the minimum for

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the 8350 dipped down to 20 well for the 3570 dip down to 29 now this was rerun a

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couple of times so we did validate it but it's just one of those things where

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it might have been a bit of an anomaly just kind of some weird thing but there

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you go so averages looked very similar moving along to Battlefield 3 we've got

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pretty much a neck and neck Dead Heat but the 8350 edges out the

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3570k in averages but not in terms of

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the minimum so the minimums were a little bit lower for the 8350 in Skyrim

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it should be noted that our Skyrim run has 18 mods from the Steam Workshop so

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guys if you sort of can't get the same

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results as us in Skyrim that's probably why but the 3570k did put up a pretty

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good show against the 8350 in this one beating it handily and the minimum frame

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rates were about 50 FPS on the 3570 versus 40 on the

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8350 for Dirt 3 uh well this game ran

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really well on both CPUs to the point where it almost doesn't really matter

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anymore but the 3570k does Edge out the 8350 again Witcher 2 gorgeous game

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demanding game directx9 game and I'm surprised every time I see this but in

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this one it was a clear win for the 3570 76.8 versus 71.1 however the minimums

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were more telling for this one with the 3570k getting about 60 FPS minimum and

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the 8350 getting about 50 FPS minimum Metro 2033 was another 3570k win but it

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looks a little bigger than it actually was because the minimum frames were

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actually very very similar in this game and that represents more of a

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playability difference than average frames per second for most Gamers crisis

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2 is our last one to wrap things up and this is another clear win for the 3570k

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with 76 versus 68 FPS and a minimum

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that's about 10 frames per second higher so conclusion wise in all of this newer

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game engines such as cry engine 3 which is what Far Cry 3 and Crisis 3 are

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running seem to be starting to favor

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multi-threading more so the 8350 is an 8

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core processor depending on how you look at it exactly whereas the 3570 is a

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purely 4 core processor so as we move forward will the

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8350 continue to become a more valid

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gaming CPU I think the answer is yes it

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has higher power consumption and it does run hotter than the

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3570k but right now in current games that don't leverage all those CPU cores

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it performs well enough I mean there's no game where the 8350 was the

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difference between playable and not playable we didn't encounter that except

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in Crisis 3 where we had that one dip but that looked like a bit of an anomaly

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even like I don't know what to say about that um but moving forward the 8350

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might begin to be able to flex its muscle a little bit more especially with

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all of the news about PlayStation 4 having an x86 multi-core processor in it

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who knows even though every PC game tends to be a console Port these days

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looking at you game developers

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ERS it may actually be beneficial for processors like the 8350 to have that

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console presence so there you go folks we're going to follow up this video with

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an anti-aliasing one as well as a platform comparison on Windows 8 to see

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how on the very latest Windows platform these two CPUs compare against each

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