WEBVTT 00:00:00.190 --> 00:00:04.500 - Have you ever been gaming on a mousepad and it just feels like garbage? 00:00:04.500 --> 00:00:09.130 You know, it snags a little bit like it's getting old or it's too smooth 00:00:09.130 --> 00:00:12.840 and you push your mouse and it goes all the way over? I mean, that's not usually much of a problem 00:00:12.840 --> 00:00:17.080 because you want no fraction. But you wanna upgrade, but what do you get? 00:00:17.080 --> 00:00:20.605 Well. - [Man] KY Jelly. (laughing) 00:00:20.605 --> 00:00:25.070 - The Skypad, professional gaming gear. So this is a tempered glass mousepad. 00:00:25.070 --> 00:00:29.670 I haven't used glass before but I have used a lot of like hard countertops 00:00:29.670 --> 00:00:32.900 as well as like metal. - [Man] Also textbooks help. 00:00:32.900 --> 00:00:37.430 - Yeah, textbooks. You know, if you're really poor you can just use a textbook 'cause that's what you spend all your money on. 00:00:37.430 --> 00:00:41.993 They sent us a whole bunch. This is the XL on the bottom. 00:00:43.040 --> 00:00:46.290 And these are the regular guys. They come in a lot of colors which is pretty cool. 00:00:46.290 --> 00:00:51.940 They come in black, white, green, red and blue. So they claim that it's like incredibly accurate 00:00:51.940 --> 00:00:56.400 and it's super smooth, so there's like zero friction. They actually sell extra mouse feet, 00:00:56.400 --> 00:01:00.840 so you gotta get the Teflon footpads and pop those at 'em. 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.460 Really feel the glide. They've also got another product on their page, 00:01:04.460 --> 00:01:08.530 the gaming ARM sleeve. That's what I'm set on. 00:01:08.530 --> 00:01:12.500 'Cause honestly, you know, not gonna lie, there's been times, especially in the summer 00:01:12.500 --> 00:01:15.990 where you're gaming like all day and then your ARM starts to hurt. 00:01:17.180 --> 00:01:20.490 It shouldn't and that should be a sign that you should maybe stop playing games. 00:01:20.490 --> 00:01:23.700 But it just chaves a little bit from the material. 00:01:23.700 --> 00:01:27.173 - [Man] It wouldn't fit on those guns. - Yeah, it wouldn't fit on these guns. I'm getting fat, 00:01:27.173 --> 00:01:30.670 my T-shirts are starting to get a little tight on me. - [Man] Just go play badminton with Linus. 00:01:30.670 --> 00:01:33.900 - No, no, I'll just game more. That'll solve my problem. 00:01:33.900 --> 00:01:37.700 That's how I'll lose weight, I'll just game more. These are supposed to be super thin as well, 00:01:37.700 --> 00:01:41.540 they're really low profile. Yeah, that's glass, all right. 00:01:41.540 --> 00:01:45.060 It's tempered glass. - [Man] Don't drop it. - I won't drop it 00:01:45.060 --> 00:01:49.650 'cause it will probably break. I don't know if it's these guys or the new XL one but the feet are supposed to be like point five millimeter 00:01:49.650 --> 00:01:53.020 and then it's supposed to be 3.2 millimeter for the rest of the pad. 00:01:53.020 --> 00:01:56.720 So it should sit about 3.7 millimeters above your desk, 00:01:56.720 --> 00:02:01.670 which isn't too bad. 'Cause our mousepad is probably pretty close. 00:02:01.670 --> 00:02:07.670 So it's basically just a little bit higher than the stitched edge of our own mat. 00:02:07.670 --> 00:02:11.653 Yeah, that feels okay. Like if I just hold my hand here, we've got a wrist rest. 00:02:13.063 --> 00:02:15.486 Ah, but see that's the thing, what if I was wearing-- 00:02:17.500 --> 00:02:20.640 Yeah, I kind of want the gaming sleeve already. It doesn't slide all that much, 00:02:20.640 --> 00:02:24.840 but the problem is we don't have one with proper Teflon feet. We do have a G303. 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.760 This is actually the Shroud mouse as well. I mean, that really just changes the shape 00:02:28.760 --> 00:02:34.380 of it a little bit, 'cause it's molded for Shroud or whatever. But like, I don't know, it slides okay. 00:02:34.380 --> 00:02:39.580 This doesn't seem, I don't know. So I've tried hard mouse pads in the past 00:02:39.580 --> 00:02:44.271 and there's something that's not the same as a cloth pad 00:02:44.271 --> 00:02:47.606 and part of it's the silence. You can hear this. 00:02:47.606 --> 00:02:51.173 That is so much quieter. It's still audible. 00:02:52.700 --> 00:02:56.890 But like-- I wish we had the Teflon feet. 00:02:56.890 --> 00:02:58.780 - [Man] So that one, the 2.0 XL-- 00:02:59.907 --> 00:03:03.990 - Yeah. - [Man] Is on Amazon for 97 US dollars. 00:03:05.720 --> 00:03:10.700 - Like honestly, considering how much a proper cloth desk pad can cost you 00:03:10.700 --> 00:03:17.130 and the fact that this is like a hard material. Like it's super stain resistant, super spill resistant. 00:03:17.130 --> 00:03:21.480 You're not gonna ruin it unless you drop it on like a tile or ceramic or concrete or something. 00:03:21.480 --> 00:03:25.340 Even if you drop this on wood. Like I could probably drop this on laminate and it would probably be okay. 00:03:25.340 --> 00:03:31.270 I'm not going to. 'Cause in case it's not. But you can get away with a few things. 00:03:31.270 --> 00:03:34.710 So just for a quick size comparison, this is a small one, this is the 2XL. 00:03:34.710 --> 00:03:40.290 And they should have-- Yeah, so the small guys are 300 by 350 millimeters 00:03:40.290 --> 00:03:46.150 or 30 by 35 centimeters. And then the big guy, though is 370 by 450 00:03:46.150 --> 00:03:51.367 or 37 by 45 centimeters, which is pretty big. This is, even the small one-- 00:03:52.284 --> 00:03:58.480 That's big enough to be a mousepad. I really hate when you get those super tiny ones 00:03:58.480 --> 00:04:03.080 that are like this size that barely cover anything and you gotta keep your DTI super high. 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.460 So you can do just wrist movements and stuff. God, I hate even moving around in this 00:04:06.460 --> 00:04:09.003 'cause you're gonna hear it. So now the question is, 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:13.050 these are like what, 30, 40 bucks for a mousepad? 00:04:13.050 --> 00:04:18.870 How much do we charge for the desk pads? Yeah, we charge 30 US dollars for the desk pads every size, 00:04:18.870 --> 00:04:23.950 which is crazy. But Linus likes giving away super huge mouse pads 00:04:23.950 --> 00:04:27.136 at 30 dollars. This is a 100 bucks for the big one. 00:04:27.136 --> 00:04:31.584 - [Man] And also you have to buy the feet. - You have to buy the feet too? 00:04:31.584 --> 00:04:34.600 - [Man] I think it's separate now. - Oh, for the mouse? Yeah, yeah. 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.810 So you've gotta spend 30 bucks just for the mousepad 00:04:38.810 --> 00:04:43.630 and then if you really want it to be as good as it's supposed to be, 00:04:43.630 --> 00:04:47.533 you've then gotta pay 20 or 30 bucks. - [Man] Nah, it's $8.50-- 00:04:47.533 --> 00:04:52.200 - 8.50. - [Man] For a set of two. - You gotta pay an extra 8.50 for a set of two feet. 00:04:52.200 --> 00:04:55.273 - [Man] I think your feet will ware out fast on glass? 00:04:56.408 --> 00:05:00.480 - You think so? I'm honestly not sure. If you're interested in that and you wanna see 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.920 how quickly mouse feet actually degrade, 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:07.260 then get subscribed to LTT and check out our upcoming Labs content 00:05:08.285 --> 00:05:13.340 because we're gonna have a lot of testing on stuff like that. Stuff that takes hours and hours and hours and hours 00:05:13.340 --> 00:05:17.255 to actually test properly. - [Man] And people vastly smarter than us. 00:05:17.255 --> 00:05:22.110 - Yeah, and people vastly smarter than us operating all of those tasks to make sure it's all above board. 00:05:22.110 --> 00:05:26.230 Yeah, I don't know, it feels okay. I still think I prefer cloth. 00:05:26.230 --> 00:05:30.500 Like if I had to choose right now, I would take the cloth mat over-- 00:05:30.500 --> 00:05:35.110 - [Man] Can you push the mouse and just see like what's the-- 00:05:35.110 --> 00:05:39.580 - Like it slides. But it slides on the cloth too. 00:05:39.580 --> 00:05:43.330 Like pretty good, honestly. And I mean, it's not super scientific, 00:05:43.330 --> 00:05:46.900 I'm just pushing this thing along, but-- - [Riley] I think you're a scientist. 00:05:46.900 --> 00:05:51.230 - Hi Riley. - [Riley] That's science. - That's science, right? I moved the thing and then I'm like, yeah, 00:05:51.230 --> 00:05:55.699 I think that's faster. That's how science works. - [Riley] Yeah, I think you're doing 00:05:55.699 --> 00:06:00.030 a randomized control trial right now. (laughing) - Do you like how this sounds? 00:06:00.030 --> 00:06:04.340 - [Riley] Not at all. - You don't like that? - [Riley] I can hear it from over here. 00:06:04.340 --> 00:06:08.350 This is a problem. - What about this? - [Riley] That's nice. 00:06:08.350 --> 00:06:12.350 Ittstore.com. - That being said, if noise isn't a factor, you know, 00:06:12.350 --> 00:06:16.043 this might be for you. And if you've got the really cool Teflon feet that they sell, 00:06:16.043 --> 00:06:19.930 maybe it's actually not even this loud at all. Maybe there's a bunch of dust on here. 00:06:19.930 --> 00:06:24.310 I don't think so 'cause I just wiped it all off. And it still sounds about the same. 00:06:24.310 --> 00:06:28.330 Yeah, it's like two bananas, almost. 00:06:28.330 --> 00:06:32.790 Like 1.8 bananas or so, so it's pretty long. It comes in a bunch of different colors. 00:06:32.790 --> 00:06:37.920 They sent us a few boxes but I don't know how many colors they actually sent us. 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:43.530 I'm a color guy. I'm not into like minimalism and black and white aesthetics for everything. 00:06:43.530 --> 00:06:48.300 Oh, they're labeled! Okay, so this is white. We've already seen the white one. 00:06:48.300 --> 00:06:51.490 This is red. I'm not really into red, 00:06:51.490 --> 00:06:53.723 but you know what, that's a really nice red though. 00:06:55.450 --> 00:06:58.730 Yeah, it's a little orangy. Oh, the green looks good. 00:06:58.730 --> 00:07:03.530 They're all just really primary. This is kind of a dark green, not super dark. 00:07:03.530 --> 00:07:07.790 But yeah, it's like they're beautiful. I do really appreciate the colorful aesthetic 00:07:07.790 --> 00:07:11.660 on the colored ones. My problem is I don't know if I wanna spend 00:07:11.660 --> 00:07:15.350 a 100 dollars on this, 'cause if I do, if I'm looking to spend that much money 00:07:15.350 --> 00:07:21.680 do I go for something really artisanal and I get like a 100 plus dollar Japanese cloth gaming pad? 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:26.080 I don't use those personally, it's too much money. But I've got friends who play Esports professionally 00:07:26.080 --> 00:07:29.700 or used to at least. And they kind of swear by those. 00:07:29.700 --> 00:07:33.670 So I don't even know if they would like these. So it's a 100 bucks for the large one 00:07:33.670 --> 00:07:38.420 and then the small one is a little cheaper probably. And then they've got their 3.0-- 00:07:38.420 --> 00:07:41.530 These are all 2.0. They've got their 3.0 up for pre-order right now as well. 00:07:41.530 --> 00:07:45.760 Cool. 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Yeah that one was like 50 with shipping. 00:08:38.820 --> 00:08:42.790 Just to make this kinda fair we're gonna have new warmup on the LTT desk pad. 00:08:42.790 --> 00:08:48.909 I'm gonna do a test on the glass sky pad and then I'm gonna go back and do a third final test 00:08:48.909 --> 00:08:55.680 on the LTT desk pad. And we'll see what I like the most. I haven't done an aim lab in Counterstrike in like forever. 00:08:55.680 --> 00:08:57.573 I don't know how this one works. 00:08:59.220 --> 00:09:04.220 To be fair, this is a mouse that I never use, 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:08.003 probably great for Shroud. Not great for me. 00:09:09.805 --> 00:09:13.280 - [Man] Excuses. - Yeah, it's pretty much excuses, 100%. Took me like five shots. 00:09:13.280 --> 00:09:16.623 Hey, that guy hit twice, that's not bad. I'm getting there 00:09:16.623 --> 00:09:21.060 and that's why this is the warmup. 'Cause I haven't played Counterstrike in forever. 00:09:21.060 --> 00:09:24.550 Cool. Counter terrace win. I've got like three head shots. 00:09:24.550 --> 00:09:28.670 Okay. Let's see how precise it is. 00:09:28.670 --> 00:09:31.873 And like I said, we can't-- It looks good. 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:38.820 It feels like it's pretty bang on. But I don't feel like the LTT desk pad wasn't bang on, 00:09:38.820 --> 00:09:42.380 you know what I mean? And it does feel a little lighter. 00:09:42.380 --> 00:09:45.450 It actually does feel a little easier to slide. 00:09:45.450 --> 00:09:49.340 Sorry, I was kinda busy toying with the keyboard and trying to shoot these guys in the head. 00:09:49.340 --> 00:09:53.370 Totally hit that guy in the face. Now that I'm not doing big circles, 00:09:53.370 --> 00:09:56.380 like it's pretty quiet. When I'm just doing these small movements. 00:09:56.380 --> 00:10:00.037 Do you guys hear it? Like you heard it before? I don't think so. 00:10:00.037 --> 00:10:03.248 - [Man] I'm hearing the fan. - Yeah, the laptop fan doesn't help. Don't get me wrong. 00:10:04.598 --> 00:10:09.110 Yeah, that's still quieter. It's not bad though. Like, I could deal with this. 00:10:09.110 --> 00:10:13.050 Yeah, it's not enough to really take you out of the game. And especially, 00:10:13.050 --> 00:10:17.303 because you're probably gonna be wearing headphones or have like speakers blasting game audio. 00:10:19.502 --> 00:10:24.793 I don't remember the patterns anymore. I used to have the M4A1 pattern kinda memorized. 00:10:25.733 --> 00:10:29.470 Yeah, I don't know. It's not that I dislike the glass. 00:10:29.470 --> 00:10:35.050 I think it's perfectly fine. It's just that I kinda like the desk pad a little better. 00:10:35.050 --> 00:10:38.130 It's a little quieter. It feels just about as smooth. 00:10:38.130 --> 00:10:44.470 And I do feel like we're doing it a bit of injustice by not giving the feet a replacement. 00:10:44.470 --> 00:10:48.286 But that's-- - [Man] It's consistent. - It's consistent, yeah. 00:10:48.286 --> 00:10:53.010 I don't know if it was the razor one, it was basically a copycat of the razor. 00:10:53.010 --> 00:10:56.270 That was just like a metal and plastic mousepad 00:10:56.270 --> 00:11:00.060 and it was okay. It was perfectly fine. But I had the same problems that I'm getting with this 00:11:00.060 --> 00:11:03.570 in that whenever you do bigger sweeping motions, 00:11:03.570 --> 00:11:09.740 frankly it's just kinda loud. And if you're gaming and you're trying to be quiet!, 00:11:09.740 --> 00:11:13.310 you know, you're off in the corner of a living room or something and your family 00:11:13.310 --> 00:11:16.690 or whoever is watching TV next to you, they're gonna be-- 00:11:16.690 --> 00:11:22.080 You know, they're already kinda mad about all the clicking and stuff going on. They don't want to hear this as well. 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.250 That being said, it's okay. I think with their cool Teflon feet 00:11:26.250 --> 00:11:30.430 that they're offering for like eight bucks, if you're already spending a 100 dollars on this, 00:11:30.430 --> 00:11:33.980 you might as well go for the extra and get the eight dollar Teflon feet. 00:11:33.980 --> 00:11:38.760 That might fix things a little bit. But yeah, that's just gonna help with like 00:11:38.760 --> 00:11:43.060 how it sounds with moving and stuff. We can't tell if this is perfectly accurate 00:11:43.060 --> 00:11:46.350 when it comes to tracking. It feels about as accurate as ours. 00:11:46.350 --> 00:11:50.320 But this is pretty accurate. It's not as accurate as the Fanatic mousepad 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.310 is what we kind of base as our gold standard. But it's pretty close. 00:11:54.310 --> 00:11:57.370 As for this, like I said, we can't tell without a lot more testing. 00:11:57.370 --> 00:12:00.370 But just feeling like it felt pretty accurate to me. 00:12:00.370 --> 00:12:04.190 But my problem is twofold. One, I'm not crazy about the logo. 00:12:04.190 --> 00:12:09.020 It's not even a bad logo. I just, I tend to-- Just design. 00:12:09.020 --> 00:12:15.060 I love how this is just blue. Give me a logoless version that has like more blue 00:12:15.060 --> 00:12:18.200 and I'll be even more happy. But my other really big problem, 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:23.290 it comes down to the feel and the sound. It sounds like there's kinda something scraping. 00:12:23.290 --> 00:12:26.370 Even though we wiped down both the mouse feet 00:12:26.370 --> 00:12:30.380 and the desk pad multiple times. And it also kind of feels like it too. 00:12:30.380 --> 00:12:34.613 Whereas where if there's stuff on a desk pad, you don't really feel it unless it's like a piece 00:12:34.613 --> 00:12:38.100 of fabric snagging on feet that are so worn away that you should probably replace them 00:12:38.100 --> 00:12:42.230 at that point anyway. - [Man] Or Doritos. - Or yeah, maybe you eat a lot of Doritos 00:12:42.230 --> 00:12:46.040 and it gets covered real quick. But you know, on that case, you should spend more money 00:12:46.040 --> 00:12:49.240 on Doritos and less money on professional gaming peripherals. 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:53.332 Would I buy it? Probably not. 00:12:53.332 --> 00:12:58.790 If you're going for a very specific aesthetic, you like the logo, you like the way it feels, 00:12:58.790 --> 00:13:05.620 this is probably the one for you. I mean, I don't think you're going to get another hard surface gaming mousepad 00:13:05.620 --> 00:13:10.410 that is this accurate, supposedly. But, you can find a cloth one for much cheaper, right. 00:13:10.410 --> 00:13:14.440 Like LTT, 30 bucks. Not even LTT. Get somewhere else. 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:18.870 You know, I'm not trying to be biased. Get any other desk pad for like 30 to 50 dollars 00:13:18.870 --> 00:13:22.690 in a much larger size, you know. You can cover your whole desk. I don't hate this thing. 00:13:22.690 --> 00:13:27.010 I think it's okay. I just probably wouldn't go out and buy it myself. 00:13:27.010 --> 00:13:31.380 John has just checked for me, Fanatic is selling their mousepad for like 55 dollars. 00:13:32.644 --> 00:13:36.610 How big was that one? So that's the Dash mousepad and that's 950 by 500. 00:13:36.610 --> 00:13:40.210 So like, that's way bigger than this thing 00:13:40.210 --> 00:13:45.620 and you're paying about half the price. I think, you know, unless you're looking for a hard surface, 00:13:45.620 --> 00:13:49.430 you can find something else. - [Man] Skip it! - Yeah. 00:13:49.430 --> 00:13:53.929 I hate saying skip it. I feel like someone always wants something. 00:13:53.929 --> 00:13:58.360 I like finding the silver lining in stuff and it's a little difficult for me to find the silver lining 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:02.210 in this one, I think. - [Man] It's easy to clean! - Yeah, it's easy to clean, you got that right. 00:14:02.210 --> 00:14:07.730 It's easy to clean, you know. If you're in a spill proof kind of desk environment you wanna create 00:14:07.730 --> 00:14:12.060 then get this. It's never gonna wreck-- You know, maybe just don't drop it on the floor, 00:14:12.060 --> 00:14:15.900 you're probably okay. If you like this SE, check out the one where Linus unboxed 00:14:15.900 --> 00:14:19.270 all of the LTT desk pads and then you can kind of see the other sizes 00:14:19.270 --> 00:14:23.020 and quality and material that we're offering here. 00:14:23.020 --> 00:14:27.537 And then you can make a more informed decision. - [Man] We didn't cheat vote, we did a lot of testing. 00:14:27.537 --> 00:14:30.990 - Yeah, we didn't cheat vote. We did a ton of testing. Thanks for watching.