WEBVTT 00:00:07.279 --> 00:00:15.759 welcome to another lonus tech tips video card launch video so this one is for the 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:21.720 GeForce GTX 660 from NVIDIA we're going to be featuring The MSI twin frozer skew 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:24.840 this is a 2 gig card and it has as you 00:00:21.720 --> 00:00:27.480 can clearly see their twin frozer 3 00:00:24.840 --> 00:00:31.000 cooler so the twin frozer 3 cooler has all of the features of a twin frozer 4 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:36.399 except for one so I'm going to show you guys it's got dual fans of course it has 00:00:33.440 --> 00:00:42.320 a super pipe thick fat heat pipe keeps the car nice and cool it has well okay 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:44.280 this is don't do this at home kids okay 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:49.039 grounding first of course propeller blade fans so that that the shape as 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:52.840 well as that coating on the tips makes it so that it does push more air it's 00:00:51.800 --> 00:00:57.480 extremely quiet you can see we're running a game right now and I'm going to get my okay I was going to have you 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:01.399 move the opposite direction I'm going to stop talking and I want you to move really close to the card so you can see 00:00:59.680 --> 00:01:05.760 even running a game it's like inaudible you can't even 00:01:03.800 --> 00:01:10.159 hear the thing but it's missing the dust removal Tech where the fans counter spin 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:14.280 the wrong way and uh and remove some dust from the heat sink before it starts 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:19.960 so let's go into some of the details of the GPU itself so this is using a GK 106 00:01:17.600 --> 00:01:25.040 core okay this is just the box so there's nothing really that special here 00:01:21.240 --> 00:01:27.439 GK 106 core it's a Kepler based GPU so 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:32.040 this is a huge improvement over last generation cards which are based on the 00:01:29.880 --> 00:01:36.759 fmy architecture so Kepler adds a whole bunch of stuff besides much better power 00:01:34.600 --> 00:01:41.880 consumption and better performance Kepler also adds support you know well 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:46.840 okay the older cards support it too but innately for txaa FXAA so these are 00:01:44.600 --> 00:01:51.200 additional anti-aliasing modes with FXAA being fantastic for lower performance 00:01:49.320 --> 00:01:55.640 cards but maintaining a certain level of visual quality you've also got full 00:01:52.920 --> 00:02:01.479 support for adaptive vsync and being a Kepler card you also have on the tiq so 00:01:59.360 --> 00:02:04.320 the or rather not on the T on the 660 you've got support for up to four 00:02:02.960 --> 00:02:09.759 displays out so if you come back here and have a look we've got two DVI ports 00:02:06.960 --> 00:02:14.400 one HDMI and DisplayPort out which is going to give you three in NVIDIA 00:02:11.760 --> 00:02:19.959 surround plus one auxiliary display to work with now the 660 only supports 00:02:17.160 --> 00:02:24.360 two-way SLI so if you step up to a 660 Ti you have support for three-way SLI 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:31.920 but the 660 because it's not based on the gk104 but rather based on the GK 106 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:34.000 core only supports 2 asli it also has a 00:02:31.920 --> 00:02:40.159 192bit memory bus which is the same as the GTX 66 GTI um and what that means is 00:02:37.440 --> 00:02:44.800 NVIDIA is using their unique technology in order to achieve their even memory 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:49.720 amount so that's the 2 gig memory amount uh versus what you normally see with a 00:02:46.640 --> 00:02:52.000 192-bit bus which is either 1.5 gigs or 00:02:49.720 --> 00:02:55.959 3 gigs so that allows us to hit kind of a sweet spot and this brings me to one 00:02:54.239 --> 00:03:00.159 of the major points before we get into the performance of the card too much 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:05.319 that I want to make versus its last generation uh contemporary the GTX 560 00:03:03.200 --> 00:03:11.360 ti so these are the more price comparable cards necessarily than the 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:13.840 660 Ti to the 560 TI would be so this is 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:18.280 a 1 gig card you can buy 2 gig ones but the like the the normal one is a 1 gig 00:03:16.239 --> 00:03:23.799 card and we observed so check this out so in the 660 is getting around 100 FPS 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:27.799 this is an ultra quality and the Older scrolls whatever it is Skyrim around 80 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:31.640 FPS so we're going to go ahead and we're going to all Tab out of this game and we 00:03:29.799 --> 00:03:34.920 saw some crazy results so these results aren't done yet I still have to do some 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:40.879 more testing but check this out so the 560ti to the 660 is as much as a 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:42.360 doubling in performance in and uh hold 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:46.040 on I'm going to have to uh I'm going to have to double check these numbers with 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:48.840 the ones that I just ran okay so that's a little bit different see this is why 00:03:47.480 --> 00:03:53.360 I'm rerunning some of the numbers because they just plain didn't look 00:03:51.159 --> 00:04:00.360 right but check this out so 560ti um is beaten by more than double 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:03.680 by a GTX 660 in Skyrim so what we're 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:05.840 observing here is that the reason NVIDIA 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:10.280 has gone with that 2 gig frame buffer is that's the sweet spot right now where 3 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:15.040 gigs would potentially cost too much and not provide any additional benefit but a 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:18.560 2 gig frame buffer is going to be more than enough but save you some of the 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:23.600 cost on the card so that you get more Graphics power for cheaper so we've had 00:04:21.280 --> 00:04:29.240 people suggest actually from our 660 Ti video re review that our 560 TI results 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:33.800 were nerfed in some way but that's not true at all all what you are seeing is 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:38.160 the fact that we are running on Modern settings so crisis 2 is running at very 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:42.240 high with the high-res textures enabled Skyrim is running at the ultra preset 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:46.199 with the highres texture pack Witcher 2 is running at very high preset with 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:50.440 vsync on and Metro 2033 is just a super demanding game in the first place so it 00:04:48.479 --> 00:04:53.919 shouldn't surprise us that much that these are games that at 1080p with high 00:04:52.320 --> 00:05:01.639 details are running out of room on that 1 gig frame buffer so with all that in 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.639 mind stay tuned for 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:07.720 performance all right so here I am in the home studio and I've finished all 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:12.720 the benchmarking that needs to be done for this card so we've uh yeah I think 00:05:10.960 --> 00:05:17.600 I've already covered enough about the technology itself so here is the test 00:05:14.880 --> 00:05:20.720 platform and for a change I'm going to take this PowerPoint presentation I'm 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:25.160 going to put a link under the video review so you guys can actually download 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:28.360 it and check out the graphs at your leisure I'm going to make a habit of 00:05:27.039 --> 00:05:33.280 doing this in the future guys so this is all run on a core I 73 93k at 4 GHz cool 00:05:31.039 --> 00:05:40.039 by a course r100 you can read the rest of the specs should you so desire so 00:05:35.479 --> 00:05:43.960 let's go ahead and switch into play 00:05:40.039 --> 00:05:45.880 mode first Benchmark is Crisis 2 at 00:05:43.960 --> 00:05:51.919 1080p at very high settings so something you guys are going to notice again these 00:05:47.919 --> 00:05:54.000 560 TI results they are terrible so we 00:05:51.919 --> 00:06:02.080 did not see very good results with the 560 TI at all 660 Ti absolutely rocks it 00:05:59.479 --> 00:06:08.039 so so by about double the performance and really hangs with its bigger brother 00:06:04.080 --> 00:06:09.880 the 660 Ti did I say 660 Ti 660 hangs 00:06:08.039 --> 00:06:14.599 with its Big Brother the 660 Ti and the 670 which were both very close I think 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:20.680 we get CPU limited once we hit around 95 FPS in this particular 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:23.840 game the 660 competes very well against 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:26.240 its direct competition the 7870 so we 00:06:23.840 --> 00:06:30.720 see a pretty much a neck and neck race here 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:36.759 guys and our next Ben bench mark is 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:40.440 Battlefield 3 so here we see the GTX 660 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:44.240 performs pretty much again in line with 00:06:40.440 --> 00:06:47.360 the 7870 edging It Out by about you know 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:48.759 4% which is outside the margin of error 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:55.599 so we're going to go ahead and call it a victory but it again lags behind its 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:55.599 bigger Brothers which is to be 00:06:55.879 --> 00:07:04.160 expected next Benchmark Skyrim Skyrim was a bit of a 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:09.360 was a bit of a mess overall just due to the fact that we become very CPU limited 00:07:06.919 --> 00:07:12.800 once we hit around that 100 FPS Mark so it's really hard for any of these cards 00:07:10.960 --> 00:07:17.520 to pull away from each other however this is still a convincing victory for 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:22.759 the 660 but it again loses to its bigger brother and this looked like a bit of an 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:24.919 anomaly so not sure what to make of that 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:29.919 but don't mind it Witcher 00:07:26.919 --> 00:07:31.039 2 once again we see the same pattern 00:07:29.919 --> 00:07:37.759 where these two cards are very competitive with each other however we're going to call that a win for the 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:40.680 7870 and the 660 legs behind the 660 Ti 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:45.680 and the 670 which is to be expected because it's cheaper finally Metro 2033 00:07:44.039 --> 00:07:49.120 see this is the what they're all supposed to be aligned like this so that 00:07:47.479 --> 00:07:53.479 you can easily compare which cards perform in line with which other cards 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:57.560 so here we had these two cards perform very similarly it looks like almost like 00:07:55.000 --> 00:08:02.960 a memory bandwidth bottleneck because you can see the 670 really pulls away 00:08:00.520 --> 00:08:08.759 and it doesn't have that 192 memory bus like these two cards both have and they 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:10.960 both perform very similarly to the 7870 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:20.479 in this context so thank you for checking out my video review of the MSI 00:08:15.199 --> 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