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think uhoh who it worked but then I was like uh oh sorry that's my ring tone all

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right so guys welcome to the W show the weekly show where we make asses of

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ourselves on a regular basis we actually have some corrections from last week's

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show that I would like to get right out of the way here at the beginning so

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number one correction is that um if you

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fire a bullet straight up into the air terminal velocity and wind resistance

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and all that stuff it's not coming down at exactly the same speed that it was

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when it's going up and it's yeah well I

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didn't so I'm correcting myself if that's okay with you so if it's fired

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straight up into the air the odds of it actually killing someone are extremely

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low however what we were talking about

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was shooting down drones in which case you wouldn't necessarily be firing up

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directly in the air and still has the same effect MythBusters busted the myth

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that firing straight up will cause it to come down at the same speed but what

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they also found is that if you fire up at an angle it there is a very good

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chance that it would kill someone because it maintains a lot of its forward momentum regardless of the whole

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falling speed what not it might still be flipping and stuff we were technically

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wrong but it's still dangerous if people shoot at drones so that's number one

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another correction from last week is that HDMI 2.0 does have support for 8K

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it's just the reason that we didn't give any cares about it is that it's at 30

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frames per second or 24 or something like that so it's like weren't we also

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specifically talking about 1.4 yes we were specifically talking about 1.4 at

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that point in time all right also we were a little bit simplistic about the

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whole Walmart thing and sort of the supply chain and how much things cost so

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there was an article here that was linked to me it's on Google+ lonus I'm a

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fan but your extremely simplistic explanation of the cost of bringing in a product was unbelievably condescending

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and just plain wrong so there you guys have it you can check that out on

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Google+ where I said good point we'll discuss on the next show but one of the

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objections that this particular viewer had was that 30 years ago the average

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ratio of what the mean income of a worker at a company versus the CEO was

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was about 30 to1 whereas now it's about 270 to1 and that is a completely

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separate issue one that does need to be addressed at some point and that lonus

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Media Group definitely believes firmly in um fighting because I actually don't

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get paid much more than anyone else who works here so that 30 to1 is not not not

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a not a thing I can strive for that 30 to1 I will be I will be pretty impressed

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with myself manag to pull think companies that have 30 to1 are like

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Giant chains and stuff well yes not four

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person teams well four person teams could still I could just I could just

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take all of the money yes I don't even know if that would still

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equate if I paid everyone minimum minum wage and still took everything I still

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don't think you'd make it and we'd like lose the house oh all

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the sad face all right so we have some great topics for you guys today number

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one is Haswell e specs have been allegedly leaked perhaps they're right

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perhaps they're not we don't know but there was an article posted that seems

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to have some either correct specs or

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what look like fairly realistic fake specs also the smart bra could be a

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thing is it for women is it for gamers

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we don't know also our guest today is Anand from Anand Tech so the guy who got

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me into PCS if you guys like built your first PC by watching our videos then

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he's like the equivalent of that for me because reading his articles was what

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really got me passionate about computers and technology so I'm extremely excited

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to have him joining us in about 25 minutes here and then we've also got

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some other cool stuff before we fire up that intro so we've got consumer hard

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drives versus Enterprise hard drives in terms of reliability there was a test

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done kind of it's we'll talk about observations of an environment um and

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then there's a bunch of Xbox One trolls and a bunch of iPhone trolls and this is

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getting hilarious but consistent and I I feel bad but it's still really funny so

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so without further Ado let's get on with the show

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so guys our number one sponsor of the show today is Hotspot Shield the easy

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sure that you check that out so without

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further ado why don't we get into our first topic here which is that Oculus

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has gotten a massive $75 million in

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additional funding to jump start the virtual reality business so this was

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posted on the Forum by top war gamer the original article is from the verge.com

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and how excited are you about this cuz you're probably the biggest Oculus

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Fanboy in like it's probably 100 kilm

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square from here at least probably actually did I tell you for for like my

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family Christmas thing I'm bringing my computer and Oculus home so everyone can

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try it did I tell you about that we have people like coming in from Eastern

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Canada to visit us and all this kind of stuff my mom was like oh we need an activity I was like we can all play

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Oculus Rift so she was down so we're doing that wow that awesome like that

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might extend that range that he just came up with by a little bit family

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Christmas at the uh at at Luke's

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family's seriously 100% I'm stoked there

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we go all right uh so all a lot of this

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money is going towards actually like producing making and getting ready to

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sell mass production like making it happen I mean the the development they

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already kind of spent that money they kind of have them now but that's they

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need way more of them as everyone on Kickstarter ever discovered there's a

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lot more to raising the funding to bring a product to Market than just covering

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the cost of having it manufactured and then kind of

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going yeah we're done yeah so that's what a lot of the money is going to and

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an interesting quote from one of the big investors who's now going to be on the

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board because he invested so much money or not exact quote but basically what he

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was saying was when he saw the developer kit he wasn't 100% sold and he wasn't

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ready to invest which I completely understand because when you have the

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developer kit you can see all these pixels and you can actually like easily

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see the Grid in between the you have one right yeah yeah and it's it's it's

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wonderful but you can still see the pixels so it's still kind of a rough experience and he said that once he saw

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the consumer version which is a higher resolution he was sold and he was ready

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to invest all that money so that actually makes me super stoked because I haven't tried the highres version yet

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which like man I'm stoked because that's one of the biggest things that I find holding it back and for me personally

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what I'm really excited for is the consumer version to be released a whole

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bunch of people to buy it and then people start building accessories for it

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like uh when we were testing the Omni the gun that was there was not super

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great I was so sad when I saw Yan's uh

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Shark Tank appearance I don't know if you guys watch Shark Tank but yon I

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can't remember his last name but he's a super nice guy he actually if you search

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for virtuix Omni on YouTube um him

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walking us through like a tour of the product is one of the first hits he's a

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great guy he he invented the Omni and uh

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he was on Shark Tank I think his issue was he was asking for too much money for

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too small a share in the company because otherwise I think they wouldn't have so

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harsh but they basically just said uh I think the the lady invest potential

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investor said something like if my husband brought this home I'd divorce

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him or something like that and I mean I understand that from a mainstream

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perspective but we need we need guys

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like Yan and we need guys building accessories for this and turning it into

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more than just a thing you put at your on your head and sit in your chair we

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need things in fact where ah where' my stinky footboard go we need things that

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enhance the way that you interact with your PC whether it's the tongue

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controller that that valve employee developed or the buttock controller or

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foot pedals all these different ways that go beyond keyboard or Mouse and be

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on the controller that debate of keyboard mouse versus controller might

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just be completely dead in another 5 years and I'm extremely excited to see

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that anyway sorry I hijacked your topic yeah I know it's all good because one of the biggest things I found with fairly

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extended use with the Oculus is when you want to start doing more things a

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keyboard and mouse is not ideal believe me freaking love keyboard and mouse but

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when you have an Oculus on your face and and you do a 180 in your chair it's not

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really going to work out so well you can't be like uh we need Wireless Oculus

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we really need Wireless we need Wireless Oculus for one or we need some type of

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cable management system that can swivel with you oh okay where it's like oh you

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know what could probably be done even now and this is going to sound super

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dorky but think about this if you could get um like even something crazy like

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edel's 2600 mAh battery pack like if you carry like if you had like a like almost

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a backpack based battery whether it's DC

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or AC depending on how you would power all the other stuff and then a wireless

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HDMI kit which are actually you can get them for around 100 to 200 bucks these

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days that could be a pretty good DIY

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people have been doing concept art of the whole idea they've been thinking of backpacks that were specially made for

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it so that they're they don't stick out way too far so they're Slimline against

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your back and different stuff like that with big flat batter yeah brilliant so

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something like that coming out um better guns which are more realistic coming out

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that you could have so you could have mags on your belt and you take one out

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and put it like Drop it or do whatever and then or put it in your belt and then

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take another one loaded in and that's how you reload your gun uh stuff like

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that would be fantastic just all these different accessories which will make it

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so much better and then something like an omni so that you don't have to sit in

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this chair with a keyboard mouse cuz right now that's the most awkward thing

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is not the Oculus it's all the other things you have to do with the Oculus

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paired with the resolution issues so once the resolution issues are solved

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and all these accessories come out this be be freaking

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awesome oh man I'm stoked jeez so stoked

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that you don't even have to get an Oculus for Christmas to make it the

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central part of your Christmas yeah yeah all right I'll just bring it there

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speaking of more extremely exciting news steam o is available today we've

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actually we're we're going to make this one of our main discussion points with

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Anan when he arrives so I don't want to get too much into it but uh we can talk

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about Steam OS actually I mean I guess it's slightly different I'll be talking

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with him about steam box not Steam OS

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yeah but a steam box is just a box with Steam OS on it and Hardware in it so

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anyway this was posted by guns cool on the Forum and the original article is

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from The Verge with um basically just an

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announcement that Steam OS will be available to download on Lucky Friday

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the 13th and beyond that valve is

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shipping out those 300 prototype steam

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boxes that they had whoops I'm on the wrong scene here that they had promised

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and uh a few lucky people are getting a very early look at Steam OS and steambox

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now to be clear

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um they're not really recommending that people just run out download Steam OS

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and then Chuck it on any old PC unless they're experienced Linux hack or people

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that are that are pretty good at that sort of thing already because it is not

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ready at all plus the learning curve will be a little bit steeper than if

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you're just installing Windows where it's just like put in USB press okay

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press okay press okay enter a product key and you're done I'm I'm thinking

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that if if it becomes available like I haven't I haven't seen if someone has a

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download link for it like I've gone to the Steam OS page and it says download will be available soon I don't know if

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that's actually where they're releasing it because it's in beta so someone has the proper download page if you could

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tweet it to me or spam it in chat or something that would be awesome and I

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might try and see if I can Tinker with it and if I can get it working easily

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enough over the weekend do you think we should do benchmarks or you think we should wait for the official release you

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you know what I am actually less interested in benchmarking Steam OS from

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a local play perspective okay and I am

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more interested in benchmarking Steam OS from a network play perspective but that

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should work it should yeah so that but

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to me building the powerful steam box

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doesn't actually make a ton of sense if Network play works well yeah which I

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don't see why it wouldn't and we're so close to Consumer grade 10 GB l

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that we could be looking at with compression 4K streaming by the time 4K

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TVs are really available and affordable and good um so with all of that in mind

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I just don't think we need powerful graphics cards in these things so n um

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what I would like to take a look at more than anything else is the latency y of

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the network streaming so I actually all the things I got today I got so much

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cool stuff today you guys uh we got a new lens from Sigma it's a 24 to 105 I

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think 24 to 105 mm lens it's an F4 um

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the sharpness should be just outstanding some of their new stuff has been great

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we got our 4K recorder for the Sony fs700 camera so we are ready to rock

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with a sharp new lens and our 4K recorder so excited about that um I got

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okay this I mean I guess it doesn't sound as exciting as that stuff but this is the one I was about to say was I got

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a USB 2 GB Ethernet adapter for my shield so what's up um seem concerned

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what the title's wrong that's all keep going it's not wrong well okay I guess

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we should say we're live now fine um so

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right so I got a USB to GB Ethernet adapter so that means I'm going to be

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able to run NVIDIA Shield in 1080P mode

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on my TV rather than relying on wireless and being limited to 720p so what we can

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do is because we just picked up one of

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these babies yeah that's right and because we

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have shield and because if you can figure it out we'll have Steam OS set up

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we could actually look at these different streaming Solutions which I really think is the future not

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necessarily streaming over the when over the internet but streaming to yourself

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to all your devices locally is extremely exciting to me extremely get

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it is is extremely exciting to me and

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I'd like to have a look at how all these Solutions are comparing to each other so stay tuned guys that is definitely

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something that we're going to be looking into later okay apparently we do have a

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link and you can download Steam OS right

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now that's so ghetto that's awesome super ghetto like FTP like oh wow that's

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amazing I I love you valve all right so

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let's get into our first headline topic I actually don't even I don't even think

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this qualifies as a headline topic I mean come on man oh I'm stoked but it's

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it's more like a rapid fire topic but we're just turning it into a headline

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topic because whatever awesome all right so this was posted by nice hat on the

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Forum Microsoft's new smart bra stops

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you from emotionally

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overeating okay

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so all right all right okay so hold on hold on let's let's be mature for a

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second here can we be mature for a second what

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I say the word boobies and you laugh is that how this works I actually didn't

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laugh at that no but braier smart bra nope not even uh smart bra

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so smart bra that's where you draw the line okay so it actually has a control

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board on it it has sensors for detecting

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your stress levels as well as your heart

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rates and um okay B basically it's a

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wearable stress sensor and you know okay I'm all for wearable tech and if it did

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something else I would probably be like oh that's pretty cool but it tells you

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to stop eating just like

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really now hold on a second now the the

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claim the claim right now so the designer when asked about a male version

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because it's like what so only women need to stop eating is that what you're trying to say okay so the designer said

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her team did try to develop a version for men but that male underwear is too

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far away from the heart for an accurate EKG

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reading so basically it'll only work for

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I mean unless men could wear bers then

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then it would work in theory yeah but then you could just buy the ladies

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version as long as they don't make it just sort of pink and frilly I mean okay wearable tech extremely exciting but I

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think for now to put the amount of

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processing power into something to make it legitimately useful we're going to be

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looking at this kind of wearable tech or this kind of wearable tech and not so

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much socks and brers and all that kind of stuff okay if they had a a smart

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breier so that you it could tell your phone your rate but it didn't but it

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didn't bleed out going oh my God you're eating too much that would make so much

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more sense to me if it was affordable that okay that's fine CU you

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could hey if it was a sports bra you could track your heart weight while running okay and you wouldn't have to

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wear any extra stuff so you don't mind if it's a piece of athletic gear I have

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I don't even care if it's a piece of personal gear it doesn't matter I just I think it's kind of insane that it's like

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cuz it one it's going to go off at all the wrong times I already brought this

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up with you you're going to be in a movie you're going to be enjoying the movie and get really into it your heart

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rate's going to go up like you're like going to take a bite of popcorn it's going to be

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like you're overstressed stop eating do you think it vibrates do you think it

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texts your phone how do you think it works you don't think it vibrates it communicates with your phone it doesn't

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vibrate you could keep your phone in your bra you could and then that could

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vibrate yes all right but like yeah

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you're going to be in a movie you're going to be eating and then it's going to freak out so the original article was

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from extreme Tech I think I had forgotten to say that before want to

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make sure that giv credit where credit is due and I I I don't even you know what guys

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hit us on the Twitter Blitz for this one let's let's do a Twitter Blitz right

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after this topic right after this next topic and before Anan joins us because

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it's just tell us your thoughts in 140 characters or less mine is tech on

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Twitter and I think that's about all we have to say so let's do one of our um

00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:54.640
let's do one of our rapid fire topics here we've actually got quite a few you

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know what this is something that was news apparently if you press enter right

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after it it turns into a link yeah that's good that it does that because that's annoying um it's a lot better

00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:07.760
than Excel where you have to actually highlight it into that field ridiculous

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okay so this was posted online as Tech tips forum and apparently I'm on page

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two oh no here we go so by snow Comet Sony announced a micro USB thumb drive

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uh for Android devices that is small enough to carry at all times it has a

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standard USB connector on one end so you can see standard USB here so that goes

00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:29.520
right into your port and then has micro USB on the other end it has on the-go

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functionality meaning that on Android 4.0.3 or later apparently 4.4 is not yet

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supported so that's kind of interesting uh you can have 8 gigs 16 gigs or 32

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gigs of storage available to you and the

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interesting to me thing to me about this was that this already exists but for

00:19:43.840 --> 00:19:50.280
some reason when Sony does it it's making you know headlines and when

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Patriot does it um we're the only ones who apparently know we've actually got a

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sample of the Stellar already so if my

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uh if my internet would go a little bit faster here I would be able to show that to you guys but basically it's pretty

00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:08.440
much the same thing and it's available in up to 64 gigs so Patriot has the jump

00:20:06.080 --> 00:20:12.480
on Sony for that particular thing speaking of your internet not going fast

00:20:10.760 --> 00:20:16.799
enough we might be getting some awesomeness on Tuesday or we like we are

00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:21.760
getting some awesomeness on Tuesday or we might be we are they're coming they're coming we are getting some

00:20:22.159 --> 00:20:28.720
awesomeness I watched the hobit last night so it's like

00:20:28.760 --> 00:20:33.679
it just total flashbacks that was awesome thank

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you okay so anyway we're we you going to tell them what's coming on Tuesday or

00:20:38.280 --> 00:20:43.640
well I I was you know more about it than I do oh well basically we have a new

00:20:42.120 --> 00:20:48.280
internet connection coming in it's going to be 50 mag down which who cares but

00:20:45.919 --> 00:20:55.280
compared to our five Meg up that we have now on cable we are going to have 10 Meg

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up on fiber and we're probably like the

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only people in the area on fiber and I think the company that we're going

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doesn't do shared connection no they

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don't you should have seen he's on the phone and he like moves the phone away

00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:14.000
from his house or house head and freaks out and like falls to the floor and is

00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:19.640
all excited and then all of a sudden goes like yep that sounds

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good I didn't know it was a fiber connection no because that service is

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not fiber in every area it just happens to be fiber here yes because it's it's

00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:31.880
ADSL Plus in a lot of places and but

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they still have that service but it's like you know how it's always advertised

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Max 10 Meg whatever yeah yeah our area

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like I called the general line and they had to transfer me to like the fiber

00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:46.679
team in order to get it set up like our area is fiber that's awesome so I'm like

00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:50.840
super stalked I just made sure all your links were hyperlink for the future oh

00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:55.279
thank you ready to go I appreciate that and I'm internet was working that would

00:21:52.960 --> 00:22:00.400
be fantastic I am like super trying to do this but I am like super not having a

00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:04.480
ton of success and P rots SEO is super not terrific so between all of those

00:22:02.919 --> 00:22:11.799
super things going on right now there's not a whole lot I can do to show you guys the Stellar unless I can there it

00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:13.039
is yay oh really seriously oh yeah there

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we go there we go okay so this is the Stellar you guys so just like the Sony

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one it's got a micro USB on one end and then it has fulls size USB 3 which is

00:22:20.679 --> 00:22:27.039
even better than the Sony one on the other end available in three different

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sizes 1632 and 64 and it is on the go

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ready in fact just as a quick test I plugged it into the bottom of my one and

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it worked flawlessly they also have the cosmos which is um not a USB thumb drive

00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:44.840
it's different it is a please have your

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site work thank you Cosmos which is an on thee-o so it

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has USB 2 on one end and micro USB on the other end uh SD card and micro SD

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card reader so this one's actually kind of cool because you're not just limited to the storage limited to the storage

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it's actually on the device itself you could just carry around like a Pelican

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case full of SD cards and then you could carry all the data with you if you were

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obsessive compulsive enough to actually manage like transferring everything and

00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:16.440
like archiving it all on SD so yeah I thought that was pretty cool as well all

00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:19.960
right so let's see what uh let's see what the Twitter verse has to say about

00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:22.720
wearable smart bras there's a bunch of people in the chat making fun of us for

00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:27.720
being all excited over an internet connection that is apparently not even that good I know it's not that good but

00:23:25.919 --> 00:23:31.480
this is Canada guys and it's like twice as good as our current

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twice as good as the best plan we can get from our current providers so

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whatever man still stoked yeah I mean imagine if you can program the bra as

00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:46.600
dimitr here says imagine if you could program the bra like you can program GPS

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with like different voices and like different attitudes that's horrible it's

00:23:48.520 --> 00:23:53.960
like you know the uh that episode of futur where they reprogram the ship's

00:23:51.760 --> 00:23:58.120
computer from being like you know an irritating dude that Bender always

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argues with to being like a seductive female so you could take your bra anywhere from

00:24:00.679 --> 00:24:06.320
like could dial it to like supportive girlfriend and it's like hey h you know

00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:09.600
you proba shouldn't grab that and then you could dial it all the way to like

00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:13.279
abusive boyfriend it's like hey if you eat one more of those I'm leaving you

00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:16.960
something that's horrible it's sort of horrible see it's just going to help

00:24:14.760 --> 00:24:20.080
anorexia which is like not good if it just tracked like your heart rate and

00:24:18.840 --> 00:24:24.480
like other things and gave you statistics so you could like follow your

00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:29.960
thing and like if if it helped like Health apps and all that kind of stuff like that could be really cool but Hater

00:24:27.840 --> 00:24:33.480
Hater right here here on the stream zor bot's always a hater I know what a hater

00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:39.279
literally always a hater uh we're getting it's telis fiber so I know it's

00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:43.840
Tellis so all the promises in the world

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we'll see but anyway um I bet Bill Gates

00:24:43.840 --> 00:24:50.520
put a camera in Le bra I I bet he didn't I bet he has better things to do that

00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:56.919
would be a lot nicer than using weird on the-go cables indeed we mini what I I

00:24:55.080 --> 00:25:01.679
haven't even heard of this no one has even T hashtag boobies really that was

00:24:58.840 --> 00:25:01.679
the best you could come up

00:25:02.159 --> 00:25:10.000
with apparently I'm getting Justin through finals week with this stream

00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:12.679
it's like a chain man I am I am I I

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:17.279
don't think this stream will help you with your finals no although if he has

00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:20.840
like scheduled breaks so that he can stay

00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:24.720
focused scheduled breaks at 4:30 on Fridays exactly for anywhere from 1 and

00:25:22.320 --> 00:25:28.799
a half to two and a half hours that was so specific all right oh

00:25:27.399 --> 00:25:33.399
there's a better way to download Through The Unofficial torrent so guys check

00:25:30.399 --> 00:25:35.600
that out as long that is yeah whatever

00:25:33.399 --> 00:25:38.919
but although it's on Steam db. info yeah it's probably fine watching from work I

00:25:37.399 --> 00:25:42.760
could feel the Judgment from you just leaving the bra picture up yeah we are

00:25:40.520 --> 00:25:47.520
definitely judging that idea um how do you plan to prevent Steam OS spam in the

00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:50.760
twitch chat we're not we're not it seems to be fine already yeah I guess Windows

00:25:49.360 --> 00:25:54.000
and steam will unite to provide the world the first game streaming

00:25:55.080 --> 00:26:00.840
brought all right so basically people don't have to say about the smart bra

00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:06.840
which I guess shouldn't surprise us that much all right so we've got our special wait wait wait finally one I believe Ms

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:10.360
said the smart bra would be for other purposes Health apps are already a thing

00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:16.799
and more data could be useful for them all right so more data for the health

00:26:11.919 --> 00:26:21.880
apps that already exist okay fine but I

00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:23.960
mean I just don't the level of okay I

00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:27.000
don't see it happening anytime soon that part I do agree with though yep if it

00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:31.200
interfaces with your phone and helps currently existing Health apps that

00:26:29.159 --> 00:26:35.240
totally makes sense yelling at you for eating too much I don't think is the

00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:38.919
right angle that doesn't seem like a good

00:26:36.520 --> 00:26:43.840
idea you're probably just creating a problem so terrible all right so we have

00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:48.320
a special guest joining us do I have headphones you do they're over here you

00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:54.360
are amazing uh slick set up the stream all by his big boy self today and I am

00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:58.640
extremely impressed so far with how well it's working well remember when you used

00:26:56.159 --> 00:27:01.919
to set it up and the audio never worked well that's because we had the worst

00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:05.320
audio setup on the planet I love our new audio setup if I had enough time it

00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:08.919
worked the best we ever had it working it's so great just say yeah well but

00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:12.880
this one's kind of nice cuz it just kind of works instantaneously you have to

00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:16.600
like spend literally two hours trying to balance everything yeah it's great all

00:27:14.399 --> 00:27:22.720
right I'm dragging him up all right user was moved to your channel I hope he's

00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.720
ready I am ready hey how are you welcome

00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:27.799
to the show I'm doing all right thanks for

00:27:25.840 --> 00:27:31.600
thanks for having me that this is absolutely Ely fantastic so all right

00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:35.159
I'm going to start I'm I'm actually sorry I know I just brought you in but I

00:27:33.679 --> 00:27:39.440
I actually have to not let you talk for just a moment here because not everyone

00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:44.600
would have necessarily seen the intro so guys I'm introducing Anand from Anand

00:27:43.080 --> 00:27:48.320
right here this is his head right here you'll be hearing his melodic voice in

00:27:46.840 --> 00:27:52.399
your heads or at least you'll think it's melodic if you're anywhere near as much

00:27:49.840 --> 00:27:56.399
of a fanboy of this guy as I am now I did an interview of him I'm I'm totally

00:27:55.000 --> 00:28:00.919
probably making you blush so it's a good thing there's no video feed but I did an

00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:04.919
interview of him at computex that my staff hid the footage from me and

00:28:03.120 --> 00:28:11.320
wouldn't allow me to upload because apparently it was just about an hour of

00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:13.039
me gushing about his greatness but now

00:28:11.320 --> 00:28:18.519
we're live and so there's nothing that they can do to prevent this from being

00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:21.080
broadcast to the entire internet so Anan

00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:24.480
is the guy who got me into Tech more than anyone else I've read almost

00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:28.480
everything he's ever written and I have a lot of respect for this guy so

00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.960
normally I ask my guest to introduce themselves but I think I've probably

00:28:29.679 --> 00:28:39.320
introduced you a fair bit here do you have anything else to say no you this is like super kind of

00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:40.480
you um and so no I I have nothing to add

00:28:39.320 --> 00:28:46.360
this is this is awesome and congratulations by the way you've been Like Making Waves and and clearly uh

00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:52.279
putting in a lot of good work and it's good to see that you uh you get recognized for that well thank you very

00:28:49.840 --> 00:28:57.480
much I think that leads pretty well into our very first topic here now you were I

00:28:55.840 --> 00:29:04.039
mean okay I remember asking you this question but I'm I'm going to make you answer it I'm going to make you answer

00:28:59.840 --> 00:29:07.159
it on air you always wear a suit even in

00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:10.120
Taipei in the middle of summer can you

00:29:07.159 --> 00:29:14.960
talk about the origins of anante and a little bit about the print to digital

00:29:11.919 --> 00:29:18.159
media transition and how you've

00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:20.760
experienced it and lived through it yeah

00:29:18.159 --> 00:29:26.320
totally um okay so the suit has a couple of things um so I I started when I

00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:30.279
started the site I was 14 and uh I don't know my parents always raised me to

00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:34.399
believe that when you do something important you wear a suit so I was I

00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:38.399
don't know meeting with people and I figured got to wear a suit um so I did

00:29:36.919 --> 00:29:42.200
that for a while and then at some point I guess I I stopped being a kid but I

00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:46.039
kept with the whole suit thing um because one thing I realized was a lot

00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:51.039
of the other folks um that were you know in the industry

00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:55.080
doing similar things weren't necessarily doing things as professionally as I

00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:59.519
thought that they should be doing them um so I I use the suit as kind of a way

00:29:57.360 --> 00:30:04.519
to to at least when I walk in a room to to help explain that look we're here to

00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:06.120
work um I mean since then the you know

00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:10.640
industry's Consolidated things have like calm down a bit but um the suit always

00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:14.640
kind of stayed um now every now and then I do slip up like uh I mean it went I

00:30:13.159 --> 00:30:18.440
probably went like a decade without anyone ever seeing me outside of a suit

00:30:17.080 --> 00:30:25.120
cuz like that's not how I dress at home like I'm not wearing a suit right now

00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.720
um so I I I kept the facade going for

00:30:25.120 --> 00:30:31.159
like a really really long time and then one time I I think I was speaking at

00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:36.320
maybe at Quake conon or something like that and I remember getting out of uh a

00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:40.600
car and I was like in basketball shorts I hadn't shaved in

00:30:37.919 --> 00:30:46.000
days and I think some people from AMD saw me and they're like what the hell is

00:30:43.080 --> 00:30:49.320
this so since then you know I've kind of I've kind of slacked a bit like no I

00:30:47.600 --> 00:30:53.120
won't wear like dress shoes anymore right I'll wear sneakers cuz like I

00:30:51.600 --> 00:30:57.480
don't know I review really cool stuff and it like blows my mind how they're able to do all of this but my feet have

00:30:55.799 --> 00:31:02.240
to hurt at the end of a trade show so I'm not okay with that so I I I dish the

00:31:00.120 --> 00:31:06.559
dress shoes I I'll usually wear the suit a few times like I I'm I'm an old dude

00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:11.200
now right like I'll I'll not wear a tie sometimes and just like really slack

00:31:08.760 --> 00:31:16.440
off um okay so that answers the suit question uh origins of an ontech um long

00:31:14.320 --> 00:31:21.000
story short I was like I don't know my parents are teachers we didn't have a

00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.799
ton of money um I needed a new computer

00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:26.240
my dad was like hey just build one cuz back then you could save a lot of money

00:31:24.159 --> 00:31:30.360
doing that right um I had no idea what I was doing so I flipped through computer

00:31:28.320 --> 00:31:33.960
shop her pointed at stuff and and you know we ordered things and I put it

00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:36.760
together and of course I shorted the motherboard to the chassis so I killed

00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:41.720
the motherboard my dad's like you're done um my mom's like no no no it's okay

00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:45.720
we we'll get you another motherboard um totally like piece of crap motherboard 2

00:31:43.360 --> 00:31:50.039
had like fake cash on it the whole thing um so I build that and I'm like hey this

00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:54.799
is kind of cool I have a new computer um and I learned a lot in the process uh my

00:31:52.440 --> 00:32:00.840
dad's a uh he was a teacher at a college at the time and um other faculty

00:31:58.159 --> 00:32:04.519
students were in a similar situation so this was like sevenish grade for me he

00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:08.399
would like pick me up after school and I'd go around and build people computers

00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:11.480
um and then you know they'd have problems with their computers so I'd go

00:32:09.600 --> 00:32:15.440
around and fix them um so I did that for like two years and then 97 hit and both

00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:21.159
my parents being teachers I had this like bug to want to teach and share knowledge uh so I kind of brain dumped

00:32:19.080 --> 00:32:28.080
online and and that's where we started um on a geoc cities page right yep geoc

00:32:24.600 --> 00:32:31.480
cities.com uh

00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:35.240
I think SLS and Valley Pine 9297 that

00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:38.720
was the that was the UR um nice so yeah

00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:40.720
I did that and uh I I I don't know I was

00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:44.840
14 I didn't know what I was doing I just wanted to share thoughts and uh I hadn't

00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:49.120
really thought about the whole print to internet transition um and actually you

00:32:46.840 --> 00:32:52.840
know I was doing it for years when you know print was still on this this

00:32:51.159 --> 00:32:57.880
pedestal and you know it was just you're the you're the online guys or or you're

00:32:54.639 --> 00:33:00.440
the online guy that wears a suit um and

00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:04.480
and yeah I mean it it took a while for that transition from from print to

00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:08.880
digital to to really become a holy crap we need to do this um kind of thing uh

00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.919
and and I would say that that really probably happened in the in the past

00:33:10.320 --> 00:33:17.000
handful of years um where you know you go through the past recession uh you

00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:22.720
know where everyone gets hit advertising wise um and you know the print guys got

00:33:19.679 --> 00:33:24.760
hit the worst um so I think that's you

00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:28.840
know you could point to that point as well you know you had better have jumped

00:33:27.080 --> 00:33:33.559
by now cuz otherwise you're going to have a a difficult time or hope you have

00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:37.960
a lot of money so another question I had for you you know I guess so for you the

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:42.440
the long and short of that is right place right time as far as the the

00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:47.000
brilliant idea of starting up a website in order to get your thoughts out there

00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:51.279
about PCS as opposed to trying to make a magazine or whatever else but well so I

00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:57.200
would I would add right place right time right age um cuz one thing I do is I I

00:33:54.320 --> 00:34:01.080
talk to um I I go around and talk to like kids high school that was a very

00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:05.399
formulative period of of my life and uh I had a very unique High School career

00:34:03.360 --> 00:34:08.399
where uh you know I was in school I was on TV and and you know I was also

00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:11.919
working with you know all these amazing companies and learning a lot uh and one

00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.520
of the things that I I like to tell kids is that you know those four years you

00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:20.079
have in high school um that's like a free ride right like you get your work

00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:24.040
done but those your four years to get your way towards you know your your

00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:27.320
10,000 hours right you you pick a passion you pick something that you

00:34:25.200 --> 00:34:30.240
don't need to make money with um that you can just just pour all of your time

00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:36.079
into you don't have to worry about hopefully like a rent or mortgage payment you just dive into it and and

00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:40.359
you know work towards being an expert at something uh so that when you step foot

00:34:38.040 --> 00:34:44.839
in college you you know can go to learn and and not necessarily go to hopefully

00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:48.760
one day start building a career right that's actually a very very good point

00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:54.000
and uh something I wish I had done a little bit better on my path I did not

00:34:50.520 --> 00:34:56.280
get started nearly as early as you um so

00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:01.320
the the basis of an onac at the beginning was of course p but over the

00:34:58.520 --> 00:35:05.760
last few years I've seen I've seen your interests shift and hence the articles

00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:10.520
that you're writing really shift towards things like home theater you went on a

00:35:07.359 --> 00:35:12.800
bit of a kick um a bit of a home theater

00:35:10.520 --> 00:35:20.200
kick for a little while um you've moved a away from PC strictly to doing a lot

00:35:17.040 --> 00:35:23.079
of first Mac coverage and then now um

00:35:20.200 --> 00:35:26.680
iOS coverage so Apple devices in general and where do you see a non-tech heading

00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:30.320
in the future I mean you guys have I mean Brian clug if he's if he's anywhere

00:35:28.680 --> 00:35:34.520
near you please just yell at him and tell him how amazing he is when it comes

00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:38.599
to phone reviews you guys have positioned yourselves through his hard

00:35:36.680 --> 00:35:42.599
work I mean sweat Blood and Tears goes into that as really in my mind the

00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:46.400
premier phone review site but what what do you think is the next step I

00:35:44.720 --> 00:35:49.680
appreciate that no Brian isn't sitting next to me he's uh he's in Arizona right

00:35:48.200 --> 00:35:54.359
now working actually on another phone review um but he uh he's amazing like I

00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:59.319
I'm I'm actually really really proud of our entire team um so it's interesting

00:35:57.319 --> 00:36:02.560
if you you look at it through you you kind of hit the nail on the head there

00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:07.040
yeah right like um a lot of our coverage does uh or at least what I do kind of

00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:10.920
follows my interest um you know I was building a home theater so I said hey

00:36:08.640 --> 00:36:17.200
maybe I should look in home theater PCS and I remember walking into a compiler

00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:21.280
class in college uh this was back in 02

00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:22.280
or 03 I remember walking in uh in the uh

00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:27.000
I guess this was in the College of Engineering Building um or maybe in the computer science building so I walk in

00:36:25.560 --> 00:36:30.760
and I look around and everyone has a Mac laptop and like this is really weird um

00:36:29.319 --> 00:36:34.920
because you know for years this you wouldn't see that and uh that was

00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:39.400
actually what inspired me to to go out buy Mac and and start using that um and

00:36:37.680 --> 00:36:43.839
and that spawned you know our Mac coverage um and then you know from there

00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:47.640
you you said it yourself we we branched out into Mobile what is interesting from

00:36:46.200 --> 00:36:51.240
my perspective is I I don't actually view this as any different as what we

00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:57.880
you know did when I started right like it's all we get into compute when it

00:36:54.520 --> 00:37:00.800
hits a a certain level of sophistication

00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:04.960
right um right and you know we our our phone coverage kind of basically started

00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:08.240
with the iPhone um back in 07 we had some false starts internally when we

00:37:06.520 --> 00:37:12.800
said hey you know how do we grow we need other things to do um and and you know

00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:16.160
we we messed around with just kind of more regular phone reviews and you know

00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:19.160
playing around with pdas and Windows mobile and stuff like that but none of

00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:22.960
those projects ever really got off the ground and then you know we we kind of

00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:28.280
tried again with the iPhone um and that did relatively well um and then you know

00:37:25.640 --> 00:37:32.800
a couple years into it we we started adding more um and then definitely over

00:37:30.359 --> 00:37:36.480
the past I'd say three or four years um we really ramped up our Mobile coverage

00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:40.480
um but from my perspective they're all PCS right it's just a different box um

00:37:39.160 --> 00:37:45.680
and and you know it's a different Cadence of release right because we do Enterprise reviews as well but that's

00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:50.319
just like a really really big computer that comes out you know once every year

00:37:47.839 --> 00:37:56.280
or two I mean I think that's something that um that I I think the post PC era

00:37:53.319 --> 00:38:00.359
is such a misnomer because the sitting at a desk doing work

00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:03.480
uh experience is not going to go away I mean this is much like a bit of an a

00:38:02.040 --> 00:38:08.920
back and forth argument that I've had with my viewers over the last little while where I said that the PS4 and the

00:38:07.240 --> 00:38:12.079
Xbox One are the last generation of consoles as we know them and I'd have

00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:15.599
people telling me well what I'm not going to game on my couch anymore no

00:38:13.680 --> 00:38:19.960
that's not what I'm saying the couch gaming experience is not going anywhere

00:38:18.040 --> 00:38:25.160
it's just that the console is going somewhere so in much the same way that

00:38:22.200 --> 00:38:28.960
the sitting at a desk with a big Monitor and getting real work done isn't going

00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:32.480
anywhere I think the device that we do it on is the thing that might just be

00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:37.160
changing over the next 5 to 10 years and it's just they're all PCS just yeah and

00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:45.040
because that's I mean I would I would say the same thing on a console right like if you look at you know 360 PS3 PS4

00:38:41.839 --> 00:38:46.599
Xbox One it's just PCS it's their like

00:38:45.040 --> 00:38:52.680
really weird PCS that are made by Microsoft and Sony but they're just PCS

00:38:49.200 --> 00:38:54.359
um and you know how how well valve does

00:38:52.680 --> 00:38:57.119
with steambox over the next decade I think we will ultimately determine

00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:03.040
whether or not we get another console refund fresh so let's talk about weird

00:39:00.640 --> 00:39:08.119
PCS with steam box because that's our next topic very nice Segway by the way

00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:12.720
um digital storm has given some details on their upcoming steam os/ Windows so

00:39:11.040 --> 00:39:17.280
they're planning to preload both os's on it from what I've seen but I guess you

00:39:14.560 --> 00:39:22.520
could probably opt out of Windows um so this is a gaming box with liquid cooling

00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:25.400
on the CPU up to a 700 wat power supply

00:39:22.520 --> 00:39:30.760
um it's going to be around $1,500 have a have a powerful graphics card in it um

00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:35.560
and then the other end of the spectrum we've got guys like IB power with their

00:39:33.359 --> 00:39:40.200
$500 machine that's going to have I think it was an r r9270 or something

00:39:38.240 --> 00:39:45.440
along those lines like a much more uh middle-of the road graphics card where

00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:49.760
do you see Steam OS and steam box which to be clear for the viewers guys a steam

00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.319
box is just a computer in much the same way that all the other things we're

00:39:50.680 --> 00:39:56.359
talking about are just computers that happens to run Steam OS it's just it's

00:39:54.800 --> 00:40:00.319
just a box that you bought from someone that is validated pre-loaded with steam

00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:05.160
that's all the steam box is so how do you see Steam Box fitting in with the

00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:11.960
current consoles and with PC moving forward um okay so uh it's a really

00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:17.040
really good idea um it's actually I was at a uh a dinner um like a secret Intel

00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:25.560
laraby dinner which I guess I can talk about now because laraby never happened for consumers um okay hold on a second

00:40:21.839 --> 00:40:28.119
is it okay to reveal a secret that never

00:40:25.560 --> 00:40:31.440
truly fully got revealed I mean they they announced it right it's

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:37.000
just I was never supposed to talk about this dinner but I'm gonna talk about the

00:40:33.560 --> 00:40:38.319
dinner now so and um it's not actually

00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.880
like it's now I've hyped it up too much the dinner it doesn't I mean it was a great dinner it's just it's irrelevant

00:40:41.160 --> 00:40:46.040
to the current conversation the food was good yeah I know it was actually yeah it

00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:53.200
was it was an entertaining dinner anyways Charlie from semi accurate he was he was at the dinner and he floats

00:40:49.319 --> 00:40:55.319
this idea of um and this is years ago

00:40:53.200 --> 00:41:01.520
right like laraby time frame like pre a lot of stuff um so he floats this idea

00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:06.240
that you know AMD and Intel should get together develop a list of specs and

00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:10.720
make you know develop a little badge program and make Hardware vendors go out

00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:14.000
meet the specs and you know they can distribute like an OS like a little

00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:20.079
virtualized or like a hypervisor or something like that um like on a USB

00:41:16.160 --> 00:41:22.359
stick um and this would be like a very

00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:26.160
custom console gaming OS that would that would run on this hypervisor uh and

00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:30.000
you'd have this logo program which would ensure that you would meet the specs and

00:41:28.359 --> 00:41:34.480
sorry can I can I interrupt you for a second do you want to just explain to the viewers who don't know what

00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:39.640
hypervisor is sort of what that would mean exactly oh true yeah sure um

00:41:37.359 --> 00:41:44.720
basically a thing that you can run multiple virtualized os's on um so you

00:41:42.560 --> 00:41:48.400
you would run uh so like if you have a Mac how you can run Windows on it right

00:41:46.680 --> 00:41:52.680
so like you'll your VMware will be your hypervisor and then Windows will be you

00:41:50.359 --> 00:41:57.200
know your uh uh if you run Windows alongside OS 10 like in OS 10

00:41:55.319 --> 00:42:01.800
effectively um but basically you look look at it like this or actually the OS

00:41:59.240 --> 00:42:06.560
that um the Xbox one runs right so it has a hypervisor that runs the Xbox

00:42:04.160 --> 00:42:11.000
gaming OS as well as the the Windows kernel side by side um and you know you

00:42:09.160 --> 00:42:14.480
switch between them anyway so this is his idea and and I heard it I'm like

00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:20.119
this is amazing this is exactly what we need to do because the console model of

00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:22.920
hey you know you got a a certain amount of money you has to go to the publisher

00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:26.800
a certain amount of money has to go to you know you know the the owner of the

00:42:24.839 --> 00:42:29.640
platform like that's all silly like there's reason to have that anymore

00:42:28.200 --> 00:42:34.280
because we have the internet and we have Steam and you know steam handles

00:42:31.680 --> 00:42:39.319
distribution for you and at that time if you looked at what was happening to PC

00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:44.760
gaming I remember I walked into a Best Buy one day and I was like well where

00:42:41.240 --> 00:42:46.119
are all the PC games and it like worried

00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:51.280
me right because it was kind of this started happening right before steam

00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:54.000
picked up a lot of steam right like before it got really really good where

00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:58.319
you know you don't have to worry about PC gaming anymore um and and it was

00:42:56.319 --> 00:43:03.920
worrisome to me so I heard this idea and I'm like this is amazing this is the

00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:05.359
exact way to save PC gaming um and it

00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:09.760
was a great idea but but you know nothing ever came of it and then you know valve starts talking about Steam OS

00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:15.119
and steam box and I'm like God this is amazing this is exactly what he was talking about years ago and I believe in

00:43:13.319 --> 00:43:20.920
it um I I think it's a really really good idea the the wrinkle in all of this

00:43:17.680 --> 00:43:25.880
is can you get killer titles ported over

00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:27.720
to Linux um and the answer is yes I'm

00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:33.800
going to argue it doesn't matter that's that's going to be that's going to be sort of my my take on all this

00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:37.920
because if valve can Implement their streaming the way that they're saying

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:42.280
that they can like if I'm going to be able to stream 1080P or you know a

00:43:40.520 --> 00:43:47.480
couple years from now when we're looking at 10 gab home networking over cat 6

00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:53.119
being something that people can feasibly do if all of a sudden we can stream

00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:54.319
1080P or 4K from some other device

00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:58.240
within the house whether that's a Windows based gaming PC or whatever else

00:43:56.240 --> 00:44:03.160
it happens to be in the future then I would make the argument that whether the

00:44:00.160 --> 00:44:06.240
game runs natively on Steam OS or not

00:44:03.160 --> 00:44:10.200
becomes irrelevant and the the steam the

00:44:06.240 --> 00:44:12.920
steam box in its in its best form to me

00:44:10.200 --> 00:44:15.720
is almost just a thin client that acts as a streaming box from whatever else

00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:22.359
happens to be in your house I mean for me I think the first thing I thought when I heard about NVIDIA grid was not

00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:25.520
um playing games over the Internet the first thing that I thought was holy crap

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:30.880
I'd love to get one of those for like a land Center or for my house so that

00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:34.520
every PC in my house whether it runs an atom with onboard Intel Graphics or

00:44:32.720 --> 00:44:39.040
whether it runs whatever other high-end stuff you know dual GTX Titans is able

00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:43.800
to have a fantastic gaming experience so that that's my take on it and maybe like

00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:49.119
let me know what you think do we does it matter Linux compatibility for the games

00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:53.839
so you may bring up a really good point um but I so I separate that from cuz at

00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:58.000
that point then you don't need Steam OS right all you need is like a a a sync

00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:02.000
right like you just need a wireless sync for you know that connects to your TV

00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:07.319
and I'm guessing you know NVIDIA's already kind of done that with shield

00:45:03.720 --> 00:45:09.319
and I'm guessing there'll be uh if you

00:45:07.319 --> 00:45:11.800
play in that space you know chances are you'll want to build a similar device

00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:16.960
right so that's that's kind of independent of in my eyes of Steam OS

00:45:14.319 --> 00:45:20.760
being a success or not um right because like you can you can build and deliver

00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:25.680
that experience today right like there's no you don't need anything else um what

00:45:24.040 --> 00:45:29.559
I'm what I'm looking at Steam OS being successful at is can you duplicate the

00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:33.640
console model right can you get to the point where someone who knows doesn't

00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:40.200
own a gaming PC like he just runs like word on his notebook from 10 years ago

00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:41.920
um can that guy or girl go out and say

00:45:40.200 --> 00:45:44.920
Hey I want this I don't want an Xbox I don't want a PlayStation I want this I

00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:48.640
don't I don't know what PC gaming is I don't know what steam is but this is

00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:53.960
what I want in my living room like can they get to that point um and and you

00:45:51.839 --> 00:45:58.800
know if you uh you you were at the Montreal thing weren't you yeah I was

00:45:56.240 --> 00:46:02.079
yeah so if you listen to you know all those guys up there CarMax Sweeny you

00:46:00.839 --> 00:46:08.800
know they all said hey this is a crazy idea give it 10 years and and you know maybe it'll work um if they can get to

00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:14.920
that ease of use model right I I think it could definitely definitely replace

00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:17.599
uh consoles the issue though is if we're

00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:21.480
talking about a 10-year Horizon before this thing's successful that that does

00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:26.160
leave room for another another go from the the traditional console players if

00:46:24.160 --> 00:46:31.359
they made it so that there was a a version or a bottle or a type of steam

00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:36.800
box that you could buy that was by default automatically launched into uh

00:46:34.160 --> 00:46:40.400
big picture MH and just put you directly into big picture and did not really take

00:46:38.520 --> 00:46:44.079
you out I think that could bridge that Gap but if it launched directly into

00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:47.200
Steam OS it could be a little bit foreign because you're sitting in Linux

00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.640
right and the other thing that the other thing that bothers me a little bit um

00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:54.800
from from like I understand why valve's doing this because they need to cater to

00:46:53.200 --> 00:46:57.640
the traditional PC gaming Market they can't they can't tell those guys yeah

00:46:56.640 --> 00:47:02.000
hey I know you thought we were cool before but we're going to just we're going to

00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:05.079
lock down steambox hardware and there's going to be one Hardware configuration

00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:08.040
there's going to be a reference design just like a traditional console we're

00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:12.400
going to refresh it every 3 years or whatever else um I don't think anyone

00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:18.319
would have accepted that but the issue is that one of the major complaints that

00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:22.000
you get from a dieh hard console player is I don't want to upgrade my Hardware

00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:27.480
every year every 2 years and I don't want to worry about GTX this or radon

00:47:25.240 --> 00:47:32.640
that that happens to be on the box I want to or inside the box I want to go

00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:35.440
to Best Buy I want to buy the thing with the price tag under it there's one price

00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:40.280
tag there's one thing I want to take it home I want to put my game in it and I want to have the experience that all my

00:47:38.319 --> 00:47:46.559
buddies are having whereas I think opening up the hardware to just anything

00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:51.119
um is not the strategy that we've seen work so well for companies like

00:47:48.640 --> 00:47:54.760
Microsoft with the Xbox or like apple with the iPhone and the iPad where it's

00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:59.119
this tightly integrated experience that they're managing I mean something that

00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:04.160
Apple does so well is no iPhone will ever ship with a crappy Wireless chipset

00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:09.920
from some noname whereas it will be possible for people to buy a steam box

00:48:07.040 --> 00:48:13.839
with offbrand audio components or Wireless components and have a bad

00:48:11.640 --> 00:48:18.520
experience and blame it on Steam OS or on steambox rather than on the true the

00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:22.920
true culprit and I think that by trying to Target a less techsavvy audience you

00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:25.760
open yourself up to that so I I'd agree with that um but I would say that those

00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:29.839
are like that's something you can easily mitigate right so so you know Microsoft

00:48:28.359 --> 00:48:34.319
tries to do this with you know the Windows Hardware approval process right

00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:38.400
it's just that they set the bar so low that everyone can play I mean they have

00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:43.760
to right they're like no we need to sell Windows because otherwise we can't we

00:48:40.200 --> 00:48:45.640
need Windows um whereas valve isn't in

00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:49.200
that position right so if I'm at valve you know you just go hardcore about it

00:48:47.319 --> 00:48:54.119
right we'll give you you know you want this official steam box logo or whatever

00:48:51.720 --> 00:48:59.319
you have to not ship like just terrible Hardware um so I I think that's a that's

00:48:56.799 --> 00:49:03.799
something that you can get around um you know Big Picture Mode it's I I actually

00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:08.119
wrote about this in our gcent coverage that it seems like there are a lot of

00:49:06.720 --> 00:49:14.400
individual projects um that are out in in the PC

00:49:11.359 --> 00:49:16.920
gaming world right now uh that if we

00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:21.680
just polished them all up we would be we'd be very close to like a a hyper

00:49:20.160 --> 00:49:25.000
console experience right so something that's even you know it used to be that

00:49:23.640 --> 00:49:28.799
hey consoles they were simple you didn't need to worry about installing your game

00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:33.440
and and updates and none of that but like remember cartridges no loading

00:49:31.200 --> 00:49:36.920
screens no and now it's like well you got to put in the disc and like wait

00:49:35.160 --> 00:49:41.960
three and a half minutes because it has to install and like there's a disc so

00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:46.400
like now it's a it's a very update yeah and it's not all the whole premise of

00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:50.359
this being an easy to use different thing like it has a web browser now it's

00:49:48.200 --> 00:49:54.839
just it's no longer what a console used to be it's just a managed PC now um so I

00:49:53.520 --> 00:49:59.119
feel like if you look at you look at GeForce experience right y that's that's

00:49:57.240 --> 00:50:03.799
a way of abstracting the whole you have to Define settings um which works right

00:50:02.319 --> 00:50:07.280
you look at steam's Big Picture Mode that gets away from you know there's a

00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:11.440
window Desktop Windows desktop in the background um and then you look at

00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:17.040
Technologies like g-sync and now you're getting into this realm of well not only

00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:18.640
does it look better have cheaper games

00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:22.440
and you know whatever compared to a console but like it's actually also

00:50:20.319 --> 00:50:26.079
smoother too right like this is like this is it's it's insane so we have all

00:50:24.799 --> 00:50:32.440
of these like little things but all of them need right cuz Big Picture Mode is close but

00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:38.599
it's still kind of valy you know it's not quite there and gsync is locked down

00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:40.240
to NVIDIA hardware and mantle I mean

00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:44.799
they're saying it's not locked down but I I think it'll be a cold day in Hell

00:50:41.799 --> 00:50:46.559
before NVIDIA um gets on board with

00:50:44.799 --> 00:50:51.520
project mantle and so all these things it's just like you're saying they need to all kind of come together um but this

00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:55.359
this Segways really well into our next topic which is g-sync now I've got a

00:50:53.680 --> 00:50:59.520
g-sync monitor here as well the same one you have um so so I've played with it

00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:02.079
myself but I read almost everything you write regardless of whether I've already

00:51:00.839 --> 00:51:06.440
got one and I've already got my own impressions of it formed as well anyway

00:51:04.240 --> 00:51:10.960
so I did notice that you were the one who did the gsync article for your

00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:15.079
website um you did I guess you were was it because you were particularly excited

00:51:12.720 --> 00:51:18.520
about it or um you know did you just want to make sure that it was done 100%

00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:22.960
right the article was great give me your your thoughts in I guess verbal form as

00:51:21.319 --> 00:51:28.160
opposed to asking everyone to necessarily read the article although they definitely should it's only about

00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:32.280
four pages how important is g-sync for the future of PC gaming and just for the

00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:37.440
future of better image quality in general yeah so um I I don't know I it's

00:51:35.839 --> 00:51:42.839
no there's no like big story as to why I was the one that wrote it then video was like Hey we're sending you a monitor and

00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:48.119
I was like hey yeah I'm busy I have like stuff to do and like no you have to it

00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:52.400
doesn't I don't care just just take the

00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:56.000
monitor so so yeah that that was the the

00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:58.040
long story of that um so what do I think

00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:04.200
of G saying um I was kind of expecting it to just like completely like just

00:52:00.520 --> 00:52:06.040
suck right cuz I saw it in Montreal and

00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:10.559
I you you saw it there and like what they showed was impressive right like I

00:52:07.680 --> 00:52:14.680
looked at like this is good um but they showed it in the pendulum demo and like

00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:19.240
I couldn't really play with it and yeah and Tomb Raider in that one spot where

00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:22.880
you stood next to that one mountain that's like and you panned around the

00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:27.680
character at two different speeds I was just like come on guys exactly I'm like

00:52:25.799 --> 00:52:32.160
come on this is not I so I'm fully expecting it to just be miserable and

00:52:30.160 --> 00:52:36.720
for like the first day day and a half that's that was my experience um I I

00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:42.079
kind of mentioned it in the review uh I had this um this Titan system uh the the

00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:46.359
tiki from Falcon Northwest that that you know I got when the Titan launched and

00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:52.400
dude like the thing was just like hard lock um whenever just I did anything and

00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:56.640
when I could get it to be stable like I totally wiped the machine did a brand

00:52:54.319 --> 00:53:00.839
new install Windows 8.1 latest drivers whatever uh and and whenever I just even

00:52:59.359 --> 00:53:07.400
running benchmarks when I could get them to run on this Titan they were running

00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:09.280
like slower than the the GTX 760 so at

00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:14.319
first and and you know I I have um Dell's uh 24in 4K here so I switch

00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:17.359
monitors and switch the monitors and every all the problems go away

00:53:15.359 --> 00:53:24.680
everything's fine so at first I thought oh this this thing sucks um and then I

00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:26.720
had a GTX 660 Ti uh on a different test

00:53:24.680 --> 00:53:30.520
bed plug it in the thing won't even like post like I don't even there's no

00:53:28.520 --> 00:53:34.400
nothing out of the display so I'm like okay this is really really bad um and

00:53:32.680 --> 00:53:42.599
then you know a third time to charm I had a a GTX 760 from EVGA and uh worked

00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:44.640
perfectly so uh when I got to that point

00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:49.119
I was really really worried but no it it literally worked in everything like

00:53:45.799 --> 00:53:51.440
there were no issues I I never ran into

00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:56.200
uh any like weird hiccups or visual glitches or anything like that um it all

00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:00.880
worked and it worked and looked just as good as it did in Montreal which was

00:53:58.160 --> 00:54:06.680
kind of amazing um it was frustrating to me that the pendulum demo doesn't let

00:54:02.799 --> 00:54:08.920
you it doesn't deal with any scenario

00:54:06.680 --> 00:54:13.559
greater than uh 60 frames a second like I can't do any of the 120 or 144 testing

00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:17.680
there um that was kind of frustrating but I spent a lot of time playing games

00:54:15.319 --> 00:54:22.839
which um I don't get time to do anymore um so that was kind of cool um and I

00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:28.680
don't know I posted some videos that kind of show the effect uh it it you

00:54:25.240 --> 00:54:30.760
know makes me hate tearing a lot um Y

00:54:28.680 --> 00:54:35.680
and uh yeah I thought there was a there was a substantial benefit to to using

00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:41.559
this versus vsync on um obviously a substantial benefit versus uh you know

00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:44.440
vsync off less pronounced of a benefit

00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:49.599
versus vsnc off at a really high refresh rate um which I think that's a that's a

00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:56.920
key thing for you know any hardcore Gamers right now they're already running at 144 or 120 um they're still an

00:54:53.960 --> 00:55:02.839
advantage it's just not nearly as pronounced as it is at 60 well to me to

00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:08.079
me the issue here sorry do do you mind no no go for okay to me the issue here

00:55:05.319 --> 00:55:14.520
is a couple of things so number one is that NVIDIA shipped their g-sync

00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:17.839
evaluation monitor um and it's a one

00:55:14.520 --> 00:55:19.400
it's a 1080p panel and it's a 144 Herz

00:55:17.839 --> 00:55:22.400
panel and I I don't find it much the same way that that you didn't see as

00:55:20.839 --> 00:55:26.799
much of a difference there I don't find that at extremely high refresh rates it

00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:31.280
is as huge and night and day of a difference as it is at you know 60

00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:36.119
frames per second and NVIDIA knows that and then number two is that because it's

00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:41.760
only a 1080p monitor in modern games with a decent graphics card because the

00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:46.480
the the the pace at which graphics cards have been improving in performance has

00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:51.039
really begun to slow down even you know a last generation card like a 660 Ti can

00:55:48.839 --> 00:55:54.799
run most modern games and not really worry too much at dipping below 60

00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:59.039
frames per second unless you're cranking up details that begin to to not really

00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:03.680
affect image quality unless you're doing side by-side screenshot comparisons and

00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:09.280
and and peering at them with a magnifying glass um so to me that the

00:56:06.720 --> 00:56:14.880
issue is that they shipped completely the wrong product to Showcase it and I

00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:19.839
think that if they had shipped a 1440p panel so something that can actually um

00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:25.280
something that runs out of resolution where it's going to demand more of a GTX

00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:29.119
780 or a GTX Titan than it can provide and dip below 6 frames per second once

00:56:27.240 --> 00:56:33.000
in a while and if they had stuck with a 60 HZ monitor I think it would have made

00:56:30.799 --> 00:56:37.559
for a much more impressive first experience so yeah I'd agree with that I

00:56:35.640 --> 00:56:41.520
mean one I'm just not a fan of this panel like it's just not a like it's

00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:46.599
okay games it's just not a I mean and part of it it's it's a cheaper display

00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:47.799
right um well it's not but well yeah I

00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:53.799
know but it's not like a you know it's not like a $600 display right or $1,000

00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:55.400
display um so and and again for games

00:56:53.799 --> 00:57:00.760
like whatever you get lost in it it's fine um so I wasn't a huge fan of of the

00:56:58.319 --> 00:57:06.000
display they chose my guess is it was probably one of the easiest to kind of

00:57:02.839 --> 00:57:07.359
retrofit um and even if you I actually I

00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:11.240
want to take apart one of the ones that isn't a g-sync monitor because I I don't

00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:16.799
know if you saw on the inside of it it's got an NVIDIA branded PCB yeah I did see

00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:20.839
that uh so I don't know cuz like they you know the whole thing is well we just

00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:24.520
replaced the scaler um but at least in this display they replaced like it looks

00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:28.079
like they replaced just there's this entire PCB that they've changed but I

00:57:26.520 --> 00:57:33.920
don't know if the original also was designed by NVIDIA so that that's something I'm curious about so I had the

00:57:31.839 --> 00:57:37.680
same conversation with them sorry hold that thought I had the same conversation

00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:41.839
with them on the phone where I actually because I've had a lot of people asking

00:57:39.200 --> 00:57:45.760
me lonus are we going to be able to mod our existing monitors and add gsync

00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:53.559
functionality to them after the fact and what Tom said was um well I I I guess

00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:56.200
you could but you would basically be

00:57:53.559 --> 00:58:02.280
soldering and like building a connector harness out of the interface for the

00:57:58.839 --> 00:58:03.760
panel itself and then connecting the the

00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:07.520
the the gsync hardware that's inside your existing Monitor and like you'd be

00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:12.559
you'd be doing this weird Frankenstein thing but when when I opened it up it

00:58:10.160 --> 00:58:16.520
looked aside from just lining up the wires here and making sure that you

00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:19.880
don't have any anything crossed and anything configured incorrectly it

00:58:18.200 --> 00:58:23.559
looked very possible yeah so that's why I'm curious

00:58:22.160 --> 00:58:27.079
to see what like a normal one of these monitors looks like on the inside cuz I

00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:31.200
don't know about your is mine was like the all the hardware um the scaler board

00:58:29.640 --> 00:58:34.520
and the NVIDIA like motherboard that it plugged into that was all just like

00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:42.079
taped in place there were no screws it was just

00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:44.000
tape so I I I don't I I'm just really

00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:49.599
curious to see what the the unmodified ASUS display looks like um so yeah no I

00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:53.359
mean for for folks who haven't seen it before right like the sweet spot for

00:58:51.160 --> 00:58:59.520
g-sync is somewhere in that you know for me I I found it to be like 38 to to 60

00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:02.920
frames a second um whereas normally when

00:58:59.520 --> 00:59:04.720
you're running vsync on at a 60 HZ panel

00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:08.240
you start dropping Below in that range and start getting like this really

00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:12.079
really variable frame rate um that's out of sync with with your monitor you do

00:59:10.200 --> 00:59:14.640
get this jutter right like it's it's clear that you know whatever you've

00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:17.720
walked into a room where there's just like really detailed paintings on the

00:59:16.359 --> 00:59:21.119
wall and stuff right or like there's just tons of foliage outside um and you

00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:25.599
get this shutter and you just kind of deal with it and then with g-sync in

00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:30.079
that exact same situation it kind of feels like 60 frames a second it kind of

00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:34.119
does actually it was I mean you tried it right yeah I know it feels really good

00:59:31.799 --> 00:59:37.680
it feels really good yeah that's not the kind of show we're running here man yeah

00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:42.280
I know that's what I thought I was calling into I just talked about a bunch

00:59:39.680 --> 00:59:46.319
of really boring stuff so he said he wasn't in a suit he's ready in his PJs

00:59:44.200 --> 00:59:52.000
like he's in his like what what are you wearing over there dude the suit is like

00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:52.000
long gone man

00:59:52.359 --> 01:00:01.520
like I just got back from a trip man that thing is it's done it's um no so I

00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:05.359
agree like they they picked an interesting panel um I you know I was

01:00:03.520 --> 01:00:10.400
able to find a bunch of games where even on a 760 you know dropping below 60

01:00:07.799 --> 01:00:14.119
wasn't an issue um but what I found is just the experience is terrible if you

01:00:12.200 --> 01:00:21.079
drop below 30 like it's just it gets real bad um so you you really need fast

01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:23.280
enough to be above 30 uh but you know

01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:26.160
you need the the optimal combination of of settings and Hardware to make sure

01:00:24.839 --> 01:00:29.799
you're always in that sweet spot for this to do anything right you know

01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:32.799
what's funny uh sorry go go ahead you can finish that thought but I just I

01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:37.599
have another thing to add to the vsync on versus gsync scenario okay yeah no

01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:40.920
all I was going to say is this actually um what carac said I think he was the

01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:45.559
one that said it on stage resonates really well with me now in that uh game

01:00:43.160 --> 01:00:49.520
developers no longer have to Target 60 right like they can they can be okay

01:00:47.720 --> 01:00:52.960
dipping down to some of these lower and that's assuming that this is something

01:00:51.520 --> 01:00:57.359
that's you know supported by more than just NVIDIA but I I think that's where a

01:00:55.280 --> 01:01:01.119
lot of the potential is that and and it's a good way of dealing with the

01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:05.400
stupidly high resolution displays which formerly you know you needed to have

01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:09.559
basically whatever the most expensive by Jensen and new Ferrari kind of or kex

01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:15.640
kind of cards were so my whole thing on vsync versus

01:01:13.200 --> 01:01:19.319
gsync is I agree with you completely that it helps with the the stutter which

01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:24.280
it does and that's great and it's fantastic but for me my biggest problem

01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:28.680
with vsync isn't really stutter because I tend to run very high-end Hardware so

01:01:26.319 --> 01:01:33.480
even from a high-end gamer perspective something I think NVIDIA isn't talking

01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:37.200
about enough maybe because they don't know how to quantify it and maybe

01:01:35.520 --> 01:01:40.760
because such a small subset of their customers will even be able to relate to

01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:47.280
it because it'll only be the high-end guys but to me my big problem with vsync

01:01:43.720 --> 01:01:50.079
has always been input leg I can feel it

01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:54.279
particularly in some game engines where left for dead was the first game I think

01:01:52.279 --> 01:01:58.760
where it really drove me absolutely bananas to have to choose between the

01:01:56.480 --> 01:02:03.559
terrible tearing in that game and the terrible input leg that for whatever

01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:08.279
reason was is present in that particular source-based game um and and I just

01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:14.680
couldn't play with vsync on because the delay was so substantial gsync means the

01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:19.440
leg goes away and and and NVIDIA doesn't seem to be talking about that in in the

01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:24.160
in the right way do you see that as a major benefit or and are they missing

01:02:21.359 --> 01:02:28.960
the boat here no so I agree with you that's something actually I wish I had

01:02:25.520 --> 01:02:33.039
more time to to deal with um so I was I

01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:36.000
was at some other meetings um when the

01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:40.200
g-sync monitor arrived and I got back basically I don't know Sunday morning

01:02:38.279 --> 01:02:42.799
and you know then I killed the first day and a half trying to figure out what was

01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:48.520
wrong with the thing and then that left me with you know basically like two days to to deal with all this so I didn't get

01:02:45.839 --> 01:02:53.799
to go in depth into input lag um but I know that's that's a big component um I

01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:58.480
think it's a question of you know which end do you attack right I think the the

01:02:56.520 --> 01:03:01.880
the cell they have here with the hey this makes everything smoother a bit I

01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:06.319
think that's a very experiential cell that that applies to a very wide

01:03:03.160 --> 01:03:08.039
audience or very broad audience I think

01:03:06.319 --> 01:03:12.160
and and I think a lot of what NVIDIA's been doing has been trying to go after

01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:15.920
that you know almost the console gamer right the person who doesn't really know

01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:19.839
or understand what's going on um and and you know they're not playing

01:03:18.160 --> 01:03:24.480
competitively but but you know they're going after

01:03:22.200 --> 01:03:29.240
that market and and I think um I think you know reducing input lag is

01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:35.279
a definite Advantage um but I I think like you said that that tailor to a a

01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:37.039
slightly smaller um Niche right one

01:03:35.279 --> 01:03:40.240
thing one analogy I liked using for gsync actually and like it's it's not

01:03:38.839 --> 01:03:45.520
perfect because Project Butter introduced vsync to Android um or that

01:03:43.520 --> 01:03:50.119
like it used vsync so it's not perfect but what project butter did for the

01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:54.279
Android side of things I see gsync doing for the PC side of things because

01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:57.920
beforehand there was all these all these drawbacks and different things you could have

01:03:56.440 --> 01:04:01.400
to make it faster but then it would look kind of gross it was just it was never

01:03:59.799 --> 01:04:04.799
very smooth and it was never perfect and project butter just launched them

01:04:03.359 --> 01:04:10.440
forward in that direction yeah it was almost this intangible wow my phone just

01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:15.720
feels well like butter and I mean gsync is it's yeah yeah butter for the PC so

01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:19.480
you can't you can't actually really use it because because Project Butter

01:04:17.680 --> 01:04:22.440
brought in vsync but I still like using it because of the general

01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:30.240
idea so next topic is is Haswell e now

01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:35.000
this particular this particular site that has the uh the Haswell e leaked

01:04:32.359 --> 01:04:40.039
specs um they've been known to be right once in a while and not necessarily

01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.319
right all the time um so it's an nch.com

01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:47.559
we're going to head over no I'm just kidding uh so mean it's mean this is

01:04:45.279 --> 01:04:54.440
actually posted by digital nav on our Forum um and the original article is

01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:57.880
from wccf Tech but have you had a look

01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:59.559
at the sort of these leaked um rumored

01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:05.200
specs and what are your thoughts on Haswell E versus what we have now which

01:05:02.520 --> 01:05:10.359
is Ivy Bridge e do we need eight core on the desktop how important is this

01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:14.880
even um so yeah I I actually I didn't realize this this had leaked yet um so I

01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:19.760
I I don't I didn't pay much attention to you know how accurate inaccurate it was

01:05:16.680 --> 01:05:23.279
um they actually had uh Haswell eunning

01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:25.960
in IDF um at IDF last year or oh crap

01:05:23.279 --> 01:05:29.799
this year still um they had a running just as a ddr4 demo um so so samples

01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:39.720
have been out there so I wouldn't be surprised if you know people got wind of it um how important is this going to be

01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:42.000
I the the the whole you know Sandy brid

01:05:39.720 --> 01:05:45.799
e iy Bri e and looking at Haswell e that's just a really weird family of

01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:49.520
parts to me what I what I want is something in between the two that I

01:05:47.279 --> 01:05:55.160
don't have to use like a weird socket to get to um right and I think we might get

01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:59.559
that with you know it sounds like they're going to do socketed Broadwell

01:05:56.680 --> 01:06:02.640
and and bring Crystal well on board but I'm guessing they won't you know they

01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:06.400
won't improve Crystal well at all it'll still be the same thing we have today um

01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:10.599
but I I I don't know that I'm more interested in that personally um do we

01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:14.960
need eight cores on the desktop yeah if you're doing like a lot of like really

01:06:13.160 --> 01:06:19.359
really heavy professional video work I can see that being very very exciting um

01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:24.520
and and you know I'd be fine with it if it weren't out of sync with the rest of

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:28.920
the desktop stuff right I don't like this whole yeah you can get something

01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:32.559
that's you know a little better but it's a year out of phase with everything else

01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:36.799
like I don't you've got you've got smart response here you've got you know that

01:06:35.279 --> 01:06:40.640
you've got quick Sync here but you've got more cores there and more RAM there

01:06:38.680 --> 01:06:44.279
this fragmentation or the segmentation or whatever you want to call it um

01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:48.119
really bothers me and I guess that's pretty much what you're alluding to

01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:52.599
right now yeah I don't I don't I'm just not a fan of it like it's it's uh you

01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:55.400
know it is what it is like you can't it's I mean because this is effectively

01:06:53.799 --> 01:07:01.520
a server part and and they're just kind of making a a desktop version of it um

01:06:59.640 --> 01:07:05.920
so it's it's nice like it'll obviously it'll improve over IU bridy um you know

01:07:04.200 --> 01:07:12.240
we already know what Haswell can do in terms of a Pere IPC Improvement um so

01:07:10.160 --> 01:07:16.680
overing will be mediocre you know all these things we know already yeah it I

01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:23.839
mean it'll be a better platform at least um uh which will be nice like Cu uh you

01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:30.319
know x79 is kind of old now um so it'll it'll at least take care of that um SATA

01:07:27.279 --> 01:07:32.119
SATA three ports yes finally yeah I I'm

01:07:30.319 --> 01:07:35.640
just not a fan of the trade-off like I I don't for me I would I would wait for

01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:39.599
Broadwell desktop it'll be cheaper and and likely be close enough um although

01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:45.480
you know eight cores is nice I won't I won't won't hate on that too much fair

01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:48.279
enough all right well I think that's uh I think that's pretty much all the time

01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:53.039
we have I don't want to keep you too long I think we kept you 10 minutes over

01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:56.039
time as it is but uh maybe just if you want to give the oh my goodness I

01:07:54.559 --> 01:08:00.520
realize we don't have our thing up there anymore um if you want to give the uh

01:07:58.200 --> 01:08:03.799
the peeps a way to find you if they're interested in whether it's your written

01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:07.520
work or your Twitter or whatever else uh we'd love to at least drive a few more

01:08:05.799 --> 01:08:11.079
followers your way if people enjoyed your presence on the show and I

01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:14.359
certainly did I think that the the viewers have been teasing me in the

01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:18.799
twitch chat the entire time for fangirling but I don't care I'm proud of

01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:24.880
it so just go ahead and let them know where they can find you okay cool yeah

01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:27.839
no thanks for having me um you can find

01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:35.480
uh me sometimes at anon.com that's and dte.com um or on Twitter which is Anon

01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:36.759
shimpy and D MPI um and yeah congrats

01:08:35.480 --> 01:08:40.920
again on everything man you you've been doing a good job and uh thanks for

01:08:38.839 --> 01:08:44.159
having me on thank you very much all right uh until I see you next I'll

01:08:42.679 --> 01:08:49.279
probably run into you at CES somewhere so I'll I'll come say hi yep I'll be

01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:56.440
just completely demoralized and just tired and me too man yeah yep CES is

01:08:54.040 --> 01:08:59.480
happening all right man no I've been booking all my meetings and like I'm

01:08:58.080 --> 01:09:05.159
looking at my calendar and I'm just like how the hell am I going to get to all these places oh you don't like you can't

01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:08.640
you just you're just eternally late like I'm already late to my first CES meeting

01:09:07.080 --> 01:09:12.520
like that's just you just have to assume that that's the case you embrace the

01:09:10.120 --> 01:09:17.279
lateness and and you know you'll you'll be okay NVIDIA is really mad at me cuz

01:09:15.040 --> 01:09:22.000
I'm I think I'm missing their thing because uh really yeah I wasn't planning

01:09:19.480 --> 01:09:25.560
to be down at the show that early so when they sent out the save the date I

01:09:23.679 --> 01:09:29.359
just kind of I meant to send back an email that said I couldn't make it but

01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:33.359
instead I was just like oh well I'm not going to be there so I guess I just

01:09:30.440 --> 01:09:37.600
won't RSVP when the time comes and at that time they hadn't really been

01:09:34.440 --> 01:09:39.199
engaging with me as much yet either so I

01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:43.279
just I really didn't think about it that much but at the Montreal event we kind

01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:47.679
of syned up a little bit more and and sort of decided that we needed to do

01:09:44.799 --> 01:09:53.159
more together and then um so anyway in in the meantime having not thought about

01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:54.920
that save the date I uh AMD asked me to

01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:57.520
be at their thing and I kind of went oh well I'm not to be there and they said

01:09:56.159 --> 01:10:01.239
oh well don't worry about it we'll cover your extra hotel and we'll cover any

01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:07.040
fees to change your flight or whatever else we really want you to be there and I kind of went oh okay well sure so now

01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:11.360
NVIDIA reminds me about that thing and I'm like oh I'll be there but oh I'm

01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:15.560
going to be at AMD's thing cuz they're covering my hotel I can't not be there

01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:21.000
so that's that's real awkward they were like really we sent you a save the date

01:10:17.120 --> 01:10:22.080
like weeks ago man I'm like ah I'm sorry

01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:28.440
yeah that's not going to go over well they'll probably like heavy beaten or something yeah in Vegas I hope they at

01:10:26.719 --> 01:10:31.760
least use the bar of soap so that I'm not all bruised for the rest of the

01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:38.600
week yeah they uh no they'll just they they'll toy with you emotionally it's

01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:44.280
that's usually how it is they'll toy with you emotionally with a bar of

01:10:41.719 --> 01:10:48.159
soap or might involve soap and another I don't know anyway okay I'll talk to you

01:10:46.320 --> 01:10:54.199
later man I'll see you at the show all right dude okay bye

01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:58.159
bye all right so guys that was awfully fun at least for me cuz I'm such a fan

01:10:56.280 --> 01:11:03.480
girl of Anan and I love everything he does so let's go ahead and move into our

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01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:28.080
of soap uh the Romans they have a game called Rome 2 Total War which didn't

01:11:26.280 --> 01:11:33.480
necessarily get the greatest critical reception right off the bat but for some

01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:38.000
reason I'm on their PR contacts like mailing list so every time a patch drops

01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:42.880
or every time there's a new DLC I'm getting emails about it so apparently

01:11:40.400 --> 01:11:47.880
they've fixed a lot of the stuff and even if it's not 100% fixed now it is

01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:51.480
definitely moving in the right direction they're working on the AI they're adding

01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:56.199
more campaign elements and all that good stuff so if nothing else if you were

01:11:53.920 --> 01:12:01.239
planning to buy a core I 5 or core i7 fourth gen processor so basically um a

01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:06.280
4670k unlocked fourth gen processor so a 4670k or a 4770k then you might as well

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it's at New Egg I know it's at MC I know it's at Amazon those are the ones that

01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:19.000
I'm 100% aware of but there may be other ones as well and if you're building a PC

01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:22.639
for someone else who's one of the things I used to do all the time when I built

01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:26.960
PCS for people when I actually had any time at all in the universe um was I

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would make the deal I'll build your PC for you for free but I want your game

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coupons so even if you're not building a PC for yourself maybe try and figure out

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how to scoop a free copy by having them buy their their their processor from a

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qualifying retailer so there you go guys our next one is uh oh apparently we just

01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:47.520
dropped a bunch of frames like all of a sudden we've been uh we've been fairly

01:12:46.040 --> 01:12:51.920
consistently dropping frames we're still live though sweet all right our other

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sh oh I don't think we run a hotspot Shields you know what the stream was

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going so smoothly it was going really well I asked you right before we went

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live too Hotspot Shield so Hotspot Shield is

01:13:06.639 --> 01:13:11.960
the easyvpn solution that I actually had

01:13:09.639 --> 01:13:16.080
to use in order to what's up oh I guess I can take these off that I had to use

01:13:14.120 --> 01:13:19.719
in order to get my Google Glass CU I had to pretend I was from the United States

01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:23.760
what a VPN does for those of you who aren't familiar although I'm sure most of you are because you're all regular

01:13:22.400 --> 01:13:27.520
Watchers of the show and you always watch us every Friday right you know

01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:34.840
nothing else to do on a Friday evening Lord knows we don't have anything better to do tonight um so I had to use Hotspot

01:13:32.480 --> 01:13:38.800
Shield VPN in order to fake where I was located I had to pretend I was in the US

01:13:36.719 --> 01:13:42.800
and Hotspot Shield does that just fine this is great for useful things like um

01:13:41.360 --> 01:13:46.199
buying things that are only available in the US it's great for things like

01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:50.639
accessing services that are only available in the US such as us Netflix

01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:55.320
if you happen to not be in America and you want to watch all the latest episodes of all the latest cool stuff um

01:13:53.920 --> 01:14:00.120
as well as many other online video streaming services it's great for that it's great for protecting your identity

01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:03.120
and your location that which people can find out quite easily using your IP

01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:08.679
address I mean it's a little bit tougher to find out your identity but your location certainly uh using your IP

01:14:06.679 --> 01:14:13.080
address if you go through a VPN service such as Hotpot shield and it works on

01:14:10.080 --> 01:14:15.800
your PC on your mobile devices and I

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guess well PC and mobile devices right yeah yay hot Shield so you can get 20%

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off Elite prices by using Code Linus on your very first purchase so go ahead and

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check that out guys it is definitely better than oh that's interesting

01:14:27.080 --> 01:14:31.920
apparently someone says do not use Hotspot Shield they make it extremely

01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:36.920
difficult to cancel a subscription will still charge you after you cancel it that's from dangerous person okay well

01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:41.360
one thing that I can respond to that with is if you post a problem with

01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:45.520
Hotspot Shield on the Hotspot Shield thread on lineus Tech tips Forum they

01:14:43.280 --> 01:14:50.840
have people that will take care of that for you right away so we actually get

01:14:47.400 --> 01:14:52.440
special service for our for members from

01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:58.199
an escalation point that is above the regular customer service so

01:14:55.239 --> 01:15:03.639
yay definitely check them out um one thing is wearing a team ocz shirt like

01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:08.520
is that is that in morning is is this like a sign of like I I miss you no it's

01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:11.719
just a nice shirt it's um what is it so it has nothing to it's American Apparel

01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:16.400
oh yeah there you go swag shirts from American Apparel I know they're awesome

01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:20.520
so it's just like and I don't know it's so subtle like I bet no one even noticed

01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:23.840
I was wearing an ocz shirts they did oh did they really oh I'm surprised it's

01:15:22.280 --> 01:15:29.800
just it's just funny because of the recent like purchase and bankruptcy what

01:15:26.480 --> 01:15:31.960
not thing that was going on lamb Bob

01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:35.040
Dole says don't listen to dangerous person he called me a exploitive

01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:38.920
exploitive explo okay well we're not trying to

01:15:37.120 --> 01:15:42.360
discredit the guy you might be you know might have had a bad experience I'm just

01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:45.480
saying that you can get special service if you go through the lus tech tips

01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:49.159
Forum which is Awesome by the way before we move on I want to quickly go through

01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:53.320
my my favorite moments of the Anand Linus meeting version two really that's

01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:59.320
how you're going to be about this wow I think that was the most glorious

01:15:56.679 --> 01:16:03.960
fantastic incredibly shiny intro we've ever had for anyone ever which was the

01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:09.520
like I love you please don't run away because I love you so much intro which

01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:11.440
was amazing um I don't think you've ever

01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:16.080
asked someone if you could interrupt them before and then after doing I

01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:20.920
usually just talk over them yep and then after that you then interrupted him but

01:16:18.480 --> 01:16:25.480
paused for a second you're like oh I'm sorry like is this okay and then he said

01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:28.880
yes and then you kept going which was fantastic and then later on you went to

01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:33.679
go interrupt him but then stopped yourself and said oh I want to bring

01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:38.080
this up later but but but you can keep going it's okay and then Drew back and I

01:16:36.280 --> 01:16:43.400
I thought that was just fantastic and then once it was over even though it had

01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:47.280
gone over time uhhuh you made it

01:16:43.400 --> 01:16:49.920
continue which was just it just

01:16:47.280 --> 01:16:54.040
beautiful I wish I still had do we still have the footage I don't know I'm

01:16:52.719 --> 01:16:57.120
actually not sure I don't know what they did with it they hit it okay yeah if we

01:16:55.760 --> 01:17:00.000
still have the footage I might leak some of it on the after party tonight but I'm

01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:05.600
not sure if we still have the footage wow that's how you're going to be about this oh I forgot we have some other

01:17:03.080 --> 01:17:10.880
sponsor messages we talked about our CES sponsors last week so uh NC is our gold

01:17:09.040 --> 01:17:14.600
sponsor basically they're paying the bulk of what it costs for us to be at

01:17:12.480 --> 01:17:18.199
CES and bring you guys the awesome content that we're going to bring you

01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:22.840
guys from there our second sponsor is Corsair so they're one of our two silver

01:17:20.360 --> 01:17:26.199
sponsors and then our third sponsor is confirmed now it's funny because last

01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:31.199
week on the show when I was like yeah it'll probably be WD they had not

01:17:28.719 --> 01:17:35.560
confirmed anything they basically hadn't replied to my

01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:40.320
email so I got on the phone with them this week and I was like so um I haven't

01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:43.840
like sent out proposals to anyone else CU I was really hoping you guys would

01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:48.120
take it and they're just like oh yeah okay I guess so sure yeah yeah we'll

01:17:45.480 --> 01:17:52.960
we'll take it we'll take it so I also have something pretty exciting to tell

01:17:50.080 --> 01:17:59.639
you guys about wd's present at the show present at the show they are doing a wd

01:17:55.679 --> 01:18:02.040
fan night which you can only get to if

01:17:59.639 --> 01:18:06.239
you hear about it through someone that they're affiliated with basically this

01:18:03.280 --> 01:18:11.320
isn't just on the WD website okay you have to hear about it somewhere spaces

01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:14.800
will fill up if you're planning to be at CES if you're planning so if you're

01:18:13.120 --> 01:18:22.480
going to be down in Las Vegas at the beginning of January you can register at

01:18:18.320 --> 01:18:25.239
wpro WD Fen night and uh there's going

01:18:22.480 --> 01:18:28.320
to be uh creative professional such as renowned Sports Illustrated photographer

01:18:26.679 --> 01:18:34.840
Peter Reed Miller professional Gamers Scara and O from Team dignitas artist

01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:39.800
drew broy musician Mike I Paris from the band o or or I don't even know who any

01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:44.120
of these people are I'm so I I live on like another planet where all that

01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:47.960
exists is work and my baby he he's always like oh why do you think I'm like

01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:52.360
Out Of Tune with society and stuff and then if you go watch and if you go back

01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:59.440
and watch the Omni video when he's like Converse con no one seen Converse before

01:18:56.400 --> 01:19:02.760
because I don't leave my house okay or

01:18:59.440 --> 01:19:04.960
this place anyway guys check it out WD

01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:08.679
fan night I I'm pretty sure I'll be there I think it's on my calendar that's

01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:13.239
Tuesday January 7th let me check my calendar so guys please only sign up if

01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:18.199
you're actually going to be in Vegas during that time and you're actually planning to go there so um you know you

01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:25.199
don't want to take away a spot from someone else who could otherwise be there uh but yes I will be there I will

01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:30.120
be there on WD fan appreciation night so that's going to be pretty cool okay so I

01:19:28.400 --> 01:19:35.600
think without further Ado I don't have any topics to further Ado right now cuz

01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:37.320
for some reason in my awe of Anan while

01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:41.719
he was on the show I closed my topics doc so go ahead and find our next one

01:19:39.080 --> 01:19:46.040
here splashed out the topic St somehow either way we can do uh consumer versus

01:19:43.719 --> 01:19:50.920
Enterprise hard drive reliability so I believe the article was such BS

01:19:49.040 --> 01:19:57.520
unfortunately I mean it would have been great if it was real so well it's

01:19:55.199 --> 01:20:01.120
it's real it's just not scientifically valid in any way so this was tweeted to

01:19:59.880 --> 01:20:07.639
me by Austin topnotch PC law guys to be clear

01:20:05.400 --> 01:20:10.719
tweeting something at me is not the best way to get an article featured on the

01:20:09.120 --> 01:20:14.880
show please post in the new section of lus tech tips Forum um but sometimes I

01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:19.520
do happen to see things on Twitter and they do make their way into the dock so

01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:25.120
back Blaze finds Enterprise drives fail more often than consumer hard drives is

01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:27.639
the extremely incendiary

01:20:25.120 --> 01:20:31.520
top or um headline of this article so I'll let you tear it apart I think

01:20:29.080 --> 01:20:34.080
they're just mad to be completely honest I'm assuming that's where this coming

01:20:32.679 --> 01:20:37.960
from they're like oh why are so many failing let's rip them apart because

01:20:36.040 --> 01:20:41.760
they they have to understand that the way they did this was not entirely true

01:20:40.280 --> 01:20:46.560
and like a lot of the quotes that are in this are directly from back black

01:20:43.440 --> 01:20:49.040
Blaze's back Blaze's blog that's a lot

01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:53.719
of bees back Blaze blog um like it's directly in there where it's like well

01:20:51.440 --> 01:20:57.679
do you think reliability of these make any sense no like it's all it's all the

01:20:55.719 --> 01:21:05.400
sensationalized part is in back Blaze's blog so that was kind of interesting the

01:20:59.719 --> 01:21:07.960
sample size is like not okay there's 368

01:21:05.400 --> 01:21:16.920
Enterprise drives and there's 14,719 consumer drives um where is it oh

01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:20.159
crap where was the failure rates I thought you put it in the dock I thought

01:21:18.040 --> 01:21:25.080
I did too so apparently 17 Enterprise drives failed over two years and 613

01:21:23.360 --> 01:21:29.639
consumer drives failed then they broke it down to percentages and found that

01:21:26.719 --> 01:21:34.040
4.6% of the Enterprise drives failed while 4.2% of the consumer drives failed

01:21:32.639 --> 01:21:38.440
but there's a big problem with that which you outlined here perfectly which

01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:43.199
is where if one Enterprise one less Enterprise Drive failed they were almost

01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:49.480
equated for percentages and if two less failed it was like a chunk better like

01:21:45.639 --> 01:21:51.199
two. 2% better which is like no to be

01:21:49.480 --> 01:21:55.520
able to do an actual study like this you need one the sample sizes need to be the

01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:58.280
same freaking side and two they weren't tested in the same environments yes they

01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:02.760
were tested in very different environments so the Enterprise basically

01:22:00.320 --> 01:22:06.320
the only real conclusion that we can take away from this because the

01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:11.480
Enterprise drives were tested in a much heavier workload than the Consumer grade

01:22:08.639 --> 01:22:15.639
drives so all we can take away from this is that Enterprise drives when being

01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:21.320
used in their intended workload which is much heavier might fail about the same

01:22:19.400 --> 01:22:24.880
as consumer grade drives when used in a lighter workload which is like what hard

01:22:23.400 --> 01:22:29.199
drive manufacturer wouldn't freaking told to that there there was even some

01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:35.159
more wonky stuff too because the Enterprise drives had nicer more padded

01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:39.280
enclosures but not by much but then were worked a lot harder then the consumer

01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:43.120
drives had not as good enclosures that had a little bit more vibration but then

01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:47.360
weren't worked as much so like there's even more weird variables that you're

01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:51.520
throwing so many variables yeah so one thing one good takeaway from this in my

01:22:49.040 --> 01:22:55.719
mind is that holy crap consumer drives don't fail that much yeah really cool

01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:59.159
cuz we use super drives in our server yep we use a lot of refurbished ones no

01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:03.440
no there are no refurbs in the server right now okay that's good Although our

01:23:01.280 --> 01:23:09.000
storage expansion upgrade that's coming soon so the the working drive for 4K

01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:13.600
footage is probably going to be refurb drives but it's a working drive but

01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:15.440
it'll be raid 10 okay so it's it's not

01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:19.679
going to be reliant on you know absolutely no drives can fail OMG so I'm

01:23:18.280 --> 01:23:25.360
I'm going to throw a RAID 10 in there of 3 terab referb drives cool but yeah like

01:23:22.199 --> 01:23:26.719
this article was is no not really right

01:23:25.360 --> 01:23:31.040
in my opinion but it's still an interesting thing to look at and like

01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:34.600
take the percentages not really 100% to heart but you can look at it still and

01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:37.960
just I I don't know maybe be a little bit more confident in your consumer

01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:42.440
drive and just make sure that it has good padding you're probably good to go

01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:47.360
all right so this one apparently I screwed up and uh let me just make sure

01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:52.239
that there's nothing showing on my screen right now that's going to be a

01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:55.920
problem I don't think so does my hangouts matter I can sign out right it

01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:59.560
shows the yeah okay there we go let's hold on

01:23:57.480 --> 01:24:04.600
let's scroll down should be fine yep there's probably going to be

01:24:02.360 --> 01:24:08.639
something I don't see anything okay so here we go all right so screen share

01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:12.400
time guys this was a PM someone sent me please post in the news section of the

01:24:10.080 --> 01:24:18.440
Forum please um anyway don't go up here's a panel some so this is on the

01:24:14.719 --> 01:24:20.000
subject of the Dell 4K 28 in monitor

01:24:18.440 --> 01:24:25.199
that's actually less expensive than the 4k 24in monitor but uses a TN panel so

01:24:23.639 --> 01:24:30.159
someone uh I don't even remember who it was cuz they didn't post for so um so

01:24:27.679 --> 01:24:34.159
someone said here's a panel someone on G found it seems to match up pretty well

01:24:32.360 --> 01:24:39.600
with what we know about the 28in monitor Dell's releasing for under $1,000 it is

01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:44.719
a TN panel but it seems to be a really good TN panel so it has wide color gamut

01:24:42.360 --> 01:24:49.800
10 bit color depth although I've seen 6-bit TN panels that are definitely not

01:24:47.080 --> 01:24:53.400
as good as 6bit IPS panels so let's be real clear more bits is not necessarily

01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:58.199
the most important thing in the world 60 HZ refresh rate which make sense and 80°

01:24:56.360 --> 01:25:03.119
viewing angle it would make sense for it to be a TN panel since it's only $1,000

01:25:00.440 --> 01:25:10.280
but it might not be that bad after all so there it is guys the n280 dj-

01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:13.719
l30 and the specs look like they are

01:25:10.280 --> 01:25:17.440
might be it potentially not that bad oh

01:25:13.719 --> 01:25:19.199
sorry sorry sorry I what the you somehow

01:25:17.440 --> 01:25:24.960
oh wow what have I done okay hold on guys bear with me for a second here uh

01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:29.920
where is it okay wow not sure what happened there okay anyway we're back

01:25:27.440 --> 01:25:37.560
um so to be clear good TN panels exist they're still

01:25:34.679 --> 01:25:40.280
not the one uses a TN panel yeah the viewing angles are excellent the color

01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:45.600
reproduction is excellent so they do exist they are

01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:50.159
slower than the overdriven TN panels that we find in products like that isus

01:25:47.480 --> 01:25:55.480
monitor that both Anan and I agree which of course fills me with much much

01:25:52.520 --> 01:26:00.679
wonderment uh both agree isn't very good because it's overdriven to refresh 144

01:25:58.719 --> 01:26:04.199
times a second and still give you a crystal clear image that means they just

01:26:02.320 --> 01:26:10.000
can't do as much with the quality of that image so a good TN panel might not

01:26:08.360 --> 01:26:13.480
necessarily be as optimal for gaming it might not be as fast but the viewing

01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:17.600
angles and the color reproduction might actually be okay so I'm pretty excited

01:26:15.719 --> 01:26:23.320
to see what Dell has up their sleeve with this 28 in 4k monitor cuz in my

01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:26.080
mind 24 may actually be a touch too

01:26:23.320 --> 01:26:32.080
small to even just 54k I mean a 2560 X 1440 24 in that's not bad it be hard to

01:26:29.679 --> 01:26:36.840
pick out the individual pixels huh I'm not sure well I'll have to like compare

01:26:34.320 --> 01:26:41.080
them yeah I guess to be honest i' have I'd have to see them close up all right

01:26:39.199 --> 01:26:45.920
we're digging into my email again for do you have another topic do you want to do maybe a rapid fire topic while I dig

01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:50.639
this up jump onto one if you give me one second some of the rapid fire topics got

01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:54.960
all messed up but we can jump into the Xbox one thing ah yes cuz this is

01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:59.679
hilarious so so trolled so apparently someone released

01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:04.560
an image which we can maybe hopefully get on screen here soon which it looks

01:27:02.280 --> 01:27:10.400
looks fairly official like it's not super well done but it's okay um it says

01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:12.280
Xbox 360 backwards compatibility unlock

01:27:10.400 --> 01:27:17.080
by default Xbox 360 backwards compatibility is disabled on Xbox One to

01:27:14.360 --> 01:27:21.400
unlock it follow these steps one go to the system menu two press left button

01:27:19.719 --> 01:27:26.360
right button left trigger right trigger I know but we might be doing podcast

01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:28.360
soon oh right in order to in order in

01:27:26.360 --> 01:27:34.199
order quickly select the developer console check the enable devkit box

01:27:31.440 --> 01:27:38.840
change sandbox ID to free zone. reboot which is where you should start thinking

01:27:35.400 --> 01:27:41.040
this is kind of bull crap um six select

01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:45.159
reset Home console and then it says Xbox 360 games will now be playable on your

01:27:43.080 --> 01:27:48.320
console the problem is it will just boot loop infinitely because you put it into

01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:52.520
reboot mode where it will just continuously reboot and will never

01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:57.119
actually really do anything essentially breaking your Xbox One breaking your box

01:27:54.560 --> 01:28:00.719
one but wait it gets better folks because that's not all from this week we

01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:05.080
also have troll number two which is even

01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:10.679
better in my opinion actually even better did you know. tumblr.com

01:28:08.679 --> 01:28:14.679
any iPhone can be charged in the microwave oven 15 to 25 times faster

01:28:13.280 --> 01:28:17.800
than the charger that came with it try it now plug your cable into the iPhone

01:28:16.679 --> 01:28:21.520
put your iPhone in the center of the oven and coil the cable around it step

01:28:20.040 --> 01:28:26.119
three set the timer in the oven for 10 to 20 seconds step four you now have a

01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:29.280
char charge iPhone this works because microwaves use the same Principle as

01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:32.679
wireless charging pads by rearranging the electrons in your phone's battery to

01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:37.800
gather at the negative terminal remember to leave your cable plugged

01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:40.719
in so there are some there are some

01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:47.280
Yahoo answers posts with folks being like hey I um I tried it is there any

01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:49.360
way I can uh fix it now and the answer

01:28:47.280 --> 01:28:55.320
is no unfortunately love how the best ansers the best answer on that one's

01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:55.320
like dude you Zapped your phone

01:28:55.880 --> 01:29:02.880
ah like yeah no you you you screwed up on that one not not going to work out

01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:06.639
for you at all yeah that is that is a crying shame right there all right so

01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:12.159
I'm ready with this next uh this next article that's in my email supposedly um

01:29:10.239 --> 01:29:15.480
no no I am not hold on I'll be ready in a second though I'm almost ready okay

01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:19.280
I'm almost ready should I try and grab something Apple Smartwatch is rumored to

01:29:17.440 --> 01:29:23.360
be coming in October 2014 and will apparently support wireless

01:29:21.320 --> 01:29:27.000
charging I guess I kind of said the whole thing I was just going to say is

01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:30.040
that is that is that the whole topic that's the whole topic is there more

01:29:28.480 --> 01:29:35.719
okay what was the original Source again I can't remember for the Apple Smartwatch yeah they've they have been

01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:40.520
right about stuff in the past that was our Forum they've also been wrong about

01:29:38.400 --> 01:29:48.960
stuff in the past so the so the original poster was jati Joe petite Joe peti yeah

01:29:46.679 --> 01:29:52.920
and the source is tweakers.net all right so let's go ahead and hop over to

01:29:50.440 --> 01:29:57.840
Linus's screen where Samsung sent me a pretty awesome email about their rapid

01:29:55.480 --> 01:30:02.560
technology being available on 840 Pro ssds now so if you already have an 840

01:30:00.040 --> 01:30:09.280
Pro and the 840 Evo came out and you were like Samsung hey hey Samsung hey

01:30:07.480 --> 01:30:14.360
what what's going on why don't I have rapid technology cuz rapid is cool what

01:30:11.639 --> 01:30:17.679
is this rapid allows you to use your RAM to accelerate your storage subsystem it

01:30:16.080 --> 01:30:22.040
can use up to a gig of your RAM at a time and it's awesome and it works but

01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:26.159
it was only available on Samsung your consumer grade drive not your PR grade

01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:31.520
Drive what is this so it's now available for existing 840 Pro owners or anyone

01:30:28.400 --> 01:30:33.600
who buys that SSD in the future and

01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:37.800
they've also enabled some new trusted Computing thing on the 840 Evo which I'm

01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:43.440
sure is important but I'm not as interested in that as raw performance

01:30:39.320 --> 01:30:47.040
and finally they have a one terabyte

01:30:43.440 --> 01:30:48.920
Matata SSD now so it's an 840 Evo

01:30:47.040 --> 01:30:53.320
meaning you have support for Rapid meaning you have support for their you

01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:59.360
know awesome data migration utility and all that great stuff and you have one

01:30:56.719 --> 01:31:06.119
terte of storage in a notebook pretty sick which is just balling my favorite

01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:07.679
part about m ssds is like they're like

01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:12.440
that big yeah I know they're tin they have so much ridiculous amounts of

01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:16.360
storage on them I know it's amazing it's it's kind of like those uh those sandis

01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:19.119
USB drives that we had I showed you those things right where it's like

01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:24.360
literally the size of the connector like I put it in I'm like how am I supposed to get this out of the port and it's

01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:29.440
like 64 gigs it's like where did you where did you put that and we have SD

01:31:26.719 --> 01:31:34.280
cards now from uh Kings oh no we have a micro SD from SanDisk as well that is 64

01:31:32.360 --> 01:31:38.320
gigs and can do like 45 megabytes per second rights and like 90 Megs per

01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:42.840
second reads it's ridiculous flash storage it's not the end of development

01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:46.520
and uh improvements there I know we're dropping a lot of frames guys there's not a whole lot we can do it right now

01:31:45.440 --> 01:31:50.679
I've been talking to the twitch chat about all the different problems and what not that are going on with the

01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:54.159
frames we're good I think we'll make it through so I think we covered all of our

01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:59.639
main topics for this week do we have anything left we have some stuff but

01:31:57.520 --> 01:32:03.360
this is hilarious oh yeah yeah this is actually slightly older news guys but

01:32:01.400 --> 01:32:10.480
check this out this is from holy ca. alltop

01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:15.080
do.com 140,000 VHS tapes from

01:32:10.480 --> 01:32:18.800
1977 to 2012 were found in storage all

01:32:15.080 --> 01:32:22.520
right so basically Miz Stokes this lady

01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:25.400
died at age 83 and at some point in

01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:30.199
1977 she decided that she was going to tape all the news

01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:35.880
ever so she planned her life around it she would feed six-hour tapes into the

01:32:32.440 --> 01:32:37.400
news channel recorders late at night and

01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:41.040
then she'd wake up early the next day to change them or conscript family members

01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:45.320
to do it if she wasn't home she'd cut short meals at restaurants to rush home

01:32:43.400 --> 01:32:48.679
before tapes ended and when she got too old to keep up she trained a younger

01:32:46.719 --> 01:32:55.159
helper named Frank to run the various recording equipment so it is

01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:57.760
potentially the most

01:32:55.159 --> 01:33:05.880
uh the most complete news recording archive in

01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:09.400
existence and it's on 140,000 VHS tapes

01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:09.400
and who's going to deal with

01:33:10.480 --> 01:33:17.480
that I'd have to imagine it has to end up somewhere you can't just throw all

01:33:15.080 --> 01:33:22.719
that history away I know but like who's that's amazing I know but who's going to

01:33:19.360 --> 01:33:24.280
do it I don't know like and okay one

01:33:22.719 --> 01:33:29.800
thing that I don't know can INSP people to do it if he can build

01:33:26.360 --> 01:33:32.719
a Nikolai Tesla Museum then maybe he can

01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:36.880
do this maybe meal if you're watching which I know you aren't he's not I know

01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:43.600
way too cool for us I love the oatmeal okay you got an N to watch if we

01:33:39.679 --> 01:33:46.520
can get the oatmeal on this show then

01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:49.520
during his entire guest segment I will like I'll go behind the couch I will

01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:55.440
take my underwear off and I will wear them on my head for the entire guest

01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:57.360
segment okay if someone can convince the

01:33:55.440 --> 01:34:01.760
oatmeal to come and be on our show for half an hour because I would fan girl

01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:05.800
out so hard God would you fan girl out as hard as you do with an end he hasn't

01:34:04.320 --> 01:34:11.920
had as much of an impact on the direction of my life as an end um but I

01:34:09.040 --> 01:34:15.960
think he's awesome well no he has know I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today

01:34:13.639 --> 01:34:21.000
if I know you know what screw you he hasn't had this profound impact on my

01:34:18.400 --> 01:34:26.480
life he hasn't driven me to do great things in other news the Nexus 5 had has

01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:30.719
had a silent done talking about the last oh we're done talking about it now the

01:34:28.480 --> 01:34:35.400
next is five this was posted by Joe petite J petite I don't know man jaati

01:34:33.080 --> 01:34:39.080
on the Forum has had a silent Hardware revision that actually addresses one of

01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:44.280
my major complaints about that well two of my major complaints about the device number one is that they have expanded

01:34:42.320 --> 01:34:49.320
the speaker grills see they're bigger now so more sound in theory number two

01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:53.960
is they have updated the buttons to be harder to press and more clicky a little

01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:57.679
bit more tactile this might have seemed like a petty complaint and I think some

01:34:55.719 --> 01:35:01.800
people didn't like this in my Nexus 5 review but to me having buttons

01:35:00.280 --> 01:35:05.360
positioned so that when you go to press one of them you accidentally press the

01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:08.239
one that is opposed to it on the other side of the phone is a big usability

01:35:07.080 --> 01:35:12.920
problem accidentally changing your volume all the time or whatever else is a problem I don't like that on the HTC1

01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:18.440
as well that's one of my major complaints on this phone because the lock is up here the volume is here so

01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:22.639
the way a right-handed person might hold the phone to unlock it is like this and

01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:25.320
you often match Mash that volume button and they're not they don't stick out far

01:35:24.320 --> 01:35:31.000
enough and they're not hard enough to press for you to really feel it so I thought that was a valid complaint and I

01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:35.000
was right because they fixed it either way how would you feel if you were an

01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:38.199
Nexus 5 owner uh actually kind of jipped kind of owned because if I if I like is

01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:44.119
actually a bad word you may not even know that no yeah cuz it it refers to

01:35:41.040 --> 01:35:45.639
gypsies pretty much there's an insane

01:35:44.119 --> 01:35:48.880
amount of words that are actually terrible and people use them every day

01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:52.679
you know that's referring to someone as a young buck is actually disrespectful

01:35:50.639 --> 01:35:56.920
as well it's it's uh it was like an insult for Native Amer Americans if I

01:35:54.239 --> 01:36:01.600
recall correctly someone said that in my like grade 10 social studies class and

01:35:59.080 --> 01:36:06.280
the teacher like flipped out and she had no idea she was like what and she's like

01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:10.320
the nicest girl in the world like one of those just like super nice girl why she

01:36:07.719 --> 01:36:13.639
flip out she obviously didn't know I he was kind of an interesting guy is crazy

01:36:12.320 --> 01:36:17.000
yeah all right I'm not going to talk about former teachers on the show they

01:36:15.480 --> 01:36:22.360
might be watching they probably aren't I would I like a lot of my former teachers

01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:25.199
Mr Thompson Mr first Mr trle probably none of them are watching at all of them

01:36:24.080 --> 01:36:31.800
are watching at all but that would be awesome isn't it sad that they don't know how famous you are now actually

01:36:28.400 --> 01:36:34.520
some of them do do they oh cool so the

01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:38.639
Pirate Bay is going to be making domain names irrelevant they've actually

01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:44.239
switched domain names twice in a matter of days and their new system is going to

01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:49.960
allow them to get around domain takedowns by um well implementing The

01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:54.920
Pirate Bay within its own web browser whoa I didn't read this topic I

01:36:53.679 --> 01:37:00.159
just assumed they had some other thing going on that's nope crazy so this was

01:36:57.520 --> 01:37:03.920
posted by guns cool on the Forum and uh the original article is from techy

01:37:23.639 --> 01:37:30.760
but the Pirate Bay um has revealed this switch to Pirate bay. p is a temporary

01:37:28.639 --> 01:37:36.199
switch the team is working on a bit torrent powered browser that will enable

01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:41.040
users to store and share files with other users without requiring a central

01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:46.000
hosting thereby eliminating the need for domain name completely so the actual

01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:49.679
sharing of tracker information will be done peer-to-peer in much the same way

01:37:47.960 --> 01:37:55.119
that the file sharing is already done peer-to-peer so there will be no one to

01:37:52.159 --> 01:38:01.040
go after in theory could they just use like a lightly modified version of

01:37:58.639 --> 01:38:05.119
Firefox so quote from the article is once that is available all links and

01:38:03.159 --> 01:38:09.480
sites will be accessible through a perfectly legal piece of browser

01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:13.800
software and the rest of it will be P2P with no Central Point to attack via the

01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:17.159
legal system I think I don't know if they're going to but I think they could

01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:22.639
just lightly modify the open source code for Firefox and just like easily have

01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:27.320
this highly up updated really well performing browser

01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:28.520
so isn't that fascinating that's smart I

01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:34.320
like they might be making their own from the ground up I have no idea I haven't read this um article unfortunately

01:38:32.719 --> 01:38:36.880
although I'm like super interested now and I'm totally going to read it I added

01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:40.840
this at the last minute I actually didn't tell him um I was just posting

01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:45.520
links on my phone I know I saw that coming in I was just focused on editing

01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:49.560
the other the uh the other video um so that's fascinating hey that's super

01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:53.480
crazy score one for the Pirates potentially here like how do you get

01:38:51.599 --> 01:38:57.719
around that because yeah it could just just be like a button on the browser

01:38:55.760 --> 01:39:02.239
that is just automatically updated and directed to the site or or like there's

01:39:00.480 --> 01:39:05.400
so many or it doesn't even have to be a website at that point the browser could

01:39:04.040 --> 01:39:10.199
just directly interface with it automatically y like holy crap yeah

01:39:09.080 --> 01:39:15.239
that's good because there's there's stuff like this there's there's been like browsing applications like views I

01:39:14.040 --> 01:39:21.880
guess you could technically say but it still interfaces with websites that actually manage everything it's just a

01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:26.679
browser that accesses those websites this way it would be oh man yeah I know

01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:33.760
it's like mine huge deal they just won the game

01:39:29.360 --> 01:39:36.880
the game yeah the game for now the game

01:39:33.760 --> 01:39:38.599
I'm trolling people oh all right all

01:39:36.880 --> 01:39:42.800
right well that's it guys thank you so much for watching The W show I hope you

01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:46.599
enjoyed it uh wow we we're ending somewhat on time today and we started on

01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:50.119
time yeah besides the dropped frames which

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hopefully we'll have addressed next week with our new fiber optic Uplink yeah

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yeah super stoked for that that's going to be awesome so take care guys thank

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you again for watching and what do I usually say at the end of the show I

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think it changes all the time actually does it change all the time and then we usually end up talking and then just

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randomly ending the broadcast big thanks for our sponsors Hotspot Shield and

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Intel and our CES sponsors who are n c Corsair and Western Digital how how long

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it someone says unsubbed unfollowed well sorry man is it cuz I forgot what to say

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at the end how how long until CES is it a month less than a month like yeah it's

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coming up on like the third yeah it's like 3 weeks we're going to die oh my

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God peace out everyone okay bye oh what

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the oh what come on oh that means that it's not

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done is the volume even going to be right what what are you what are you

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talking about I'm putting on our our intro thing oh the volume's not going to

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be right can you just play the other scene I don't think is it in there no

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you moved it no I moved it from this one I think we're done here okay