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think uhoh who it worked but then I was like uh oh sorry that's my ring tone all

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right so guys welcome to the W show the weekly show where we make asses of

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ourselves on a regular basis we actually have some corrections from last week's

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show that I would like to get right out of the way here at the beginning so

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number one correction is that um if you

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fire a bullet straight up into the air terminal velocity and wind resistance

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and all that stuff it's not coming down at exactly the same speed that it was

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when it's going up and it's yeah well I

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didn't so I'm correcting myself if that's okay with you so if it's fired

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straight up into the air the odds of it actually killing someone are extremely

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low however what we were talking about

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was shooting down drones in which case you wouldn't necessarily be firing up

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directly in the air and still has the same effect MythBusters busted the myth

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that firing straight up will cause it to come down at the same speed but what

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they also found is that if you fire up at an angle it there is a very good

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chance that it would kill someone because it maintains a lot of its forward momentum regardless of the whole

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falling speed what not it might still be flipping and stuff we were technically

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wrong but it's still dangerous if people shoot at drones so that's number one

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another correction from last week is that HDMI 2.0 does have support for 8K

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it's just the reason that we didn't give any cares about it is that it's at 30

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frames per second or 24 or something like that so it's like weren't we also

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specifically talking about 1.4 yes we were specifically talking about 1.4 at

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that point in time all right also we were a little bit simplistic about the

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whole Walmart thing and sort of the supply chain and how much things cost so

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there was an article here that was linked to me it's on Google+ lonus I'm a

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fan but your extremely simplistic explanation of the cost of bringing in a product was unbelievably condescending

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and just plain wrong so there you guys have it you can check that out on

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Google+ where I said good point we'll discuss on the next show but one of the

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objections that this particular viewer had was that 30 years ago the average

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ratio of what the mean income of a worker at a company versus the CEO was

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was about 30 to1 whereas now it's about 270 to1 and that is a completely

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separate issue one that does need to be addressed at some point and that lonus

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Media Group definitely believes firmly in um fighting because I actually don't

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get paid much more than anyone else who works here so that 30 to1 is not not not

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a not a thing I can strive for that 30 to1 I will be I will be pretty impressed

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with myself manag to pull think companies that have 30 to1 are like

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Giant chains and stuff well yes not four

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person teams well four person teams could still I could just I could just

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take all of the money yes I don't even know if that would still

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equate if I paid everyone minimum minum wage and still took everything I still

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don't think you'd make it and we'd like lose the house oh all

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the sad face all right so we have some great topics for you guys today number

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one is Haswell e specs have been allegedly leaked perhaps they're right

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perhaps they're not we don't know but there was an article posted that seems

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to have some either correct specs or

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what look like fairly realistic fake specs also the smart bra could be a

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thing is it for women is it for gamers

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we don't know also our guest today is Anand from Anand Tech so the guy who got

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me into PCS if you guys like built your first PC by watching our videos then

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he's like the equivalent of that for me because reading his articles was what

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really got me passionate about computers and technology so I'm extremely excited

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to have him joining us in about 25 minutes here and then we've also got

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some other cool stuff before we fire up that intro so we've got consumer hard

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drives versus Enterprise hard drives in terms of reliability there was a test

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done kind of it's we'll talk about observations of an environment um and

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then there's a bunch of Xbox One trolls and a bunch of iPhone trolls and this is

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getting hilarious but consistent and I I feel bad but it's still really funny so

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so without further Ado let's get on with the show

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so guys our number one sponsor of the show today is Hotspot Shield the easy

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quick to install VPN solution and our second sponsor is Intel today buy a

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qualifying fourth generation core i7 or core i5 processor and get a free copy of

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Rome 2 Total War this is for a limited time and unfortunately sorry guys um

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only from select retailers so that's in Canada and the US but either way make

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sure that you check that out so without

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further ado why don't we get into our first topic here which is that Oculus

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has gotten a massive $75 million in

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additional funding to jump start the virtual reality business so this was

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posted on the Forum by top war gamer the original article is from the verge.com

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and how excited are you about this cuz you're probably the biggest Oculus

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square from here at least probably actually did I tell you for for like my

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family Christmas thing I'm bringing my computer and Oculus home so everyone can

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try it did I tell you about that we have people like coming in from Eastern

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Canada to visit us and all this kind of stuff my mom was like oh we need an activity I was like we can all play

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Oculus Rift so she was down so we're doing that wow that awesome like that

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might extend that range that he just came up with by a little bit family

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Christmas at the uh at at Luke's

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family's seriously 100% I'm stoked there

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we go all right uh so all a lot of this

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money is going towards actually like producing making and getting ready to

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sell mass production like making it happen I mean the the development they

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already kind of spent that money they kind of have them now but that's they

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need way more of them as everyone on Kickstarter ever discovered there's a

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lot more to raising the funding to bring a product to Market than just covering

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the cost of having it manufactured and then kind of

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going yeah we're done yeah so that's what a lot of the money is going to and

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an interesting quote from one of the big investors who's now going to be on the

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board because he invested so much money or not exact quote but basically what he

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was saying was when he saw the developer kit he wasn't 100% sold and he wasn't

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ready to invest which I completely understand because when you have the

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developer kit you can see all these pixels and you can actually like easily

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see the Grid in between the you have one right yeah yeah and it's it's it's

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wonderful but you can still see the pixels so it's still kind of a rough experience and he said that once he saw

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the consumer version which is a higher resolution he was sold and he was ready

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to invest all that money so that actually makes me super stoked because I haven't tried the highres version yet

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which like man I'm stoked because that's one of the biggest things that I find holding it back and for me personally

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what I'm really excited for is the consumer version to be released a whole

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bunch of people to buy it and then people start building accessories for it

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like uh when we were testing the Omni the gun that was there was not super

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great I was so sad when I saw Yan's uh

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Shark Tank appearance I don't know if you guys watch Shark Tank but yon I

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can't remember his last name but he's a super nice guy he actually if you search

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for virtuix Omni on YouTube um him

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walking us through like a tour of the product is one of the first hits he's a

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great guy he he invented the Omni and uh

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he was on Shark Tank I think his issue was he was asking for too much money for

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too small a share in the company because otherwise I think they wouldn't have so

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harsh but they basically just said uh I think the the lady invest potential

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investor said something like if my husband brought this home I'd divorce

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him or something like that and I mean I understand that from a mainstream

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perspective but we need we need guys

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like Yan and we need guys building accessories for this and turning it into

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more than just a thing you put at your on your head and sit in your chair we

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need things in fact where ah where' my stinky footboard go we need things that

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enhance the way that you interact with your PC whether it's the tongue

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controller that that valve employee developed or the buttock controller or

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foot pedals all these different ways that go beyond keyboard or Mouse and be

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on the controller that debate of keyboard mouse versus controller might

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just be completely dead in another 5 years and I'm extremely excited to see

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that anyway sorry I hijacked your topic yeah I know it's all good because one of the biggest things I found with fairly

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extended use with the Oculus is when you want to start doing more things a

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keyboard and mouse is not ideal believe me freaking love keyboard and mouse but

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when you have an Oculus on your face and and you do a 180 in your chair it's not

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really going to work out so well you can't be like uh we need Wireless Oculus

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we really need Wireless we need Wireless Oculus for one or we need some type of

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cable management system that can swivel with you oh okay where it's like oh you

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know what could probably be done even now and this is going to sound super

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dorky but think about this if you could get um like even something crazy like

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edel's 2600 mAh battery pack like if you carry like if you had like a like almost

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a backpack based battery whether it's DC

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or AC depending on how you would power all the other stuff and then a wireless

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HDMI kit which are actually you can get them for around 100 to 200 bucks these

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days that could be a pretty good DIY

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people have been doing concept art of the whole idea they've been thinking of backpacks that were specially made for

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it so that they're they don't stick out way too far so they're Slimline against

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your back and different stuff like that with big flat batter yeah brilliant so

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something like that coming out um better guns which are more realistic coming out

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that you could have so you could have mags on your belt and you take one out

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and put it like Drop it or do whatever and then or put it in your belt and then

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take another one loaded in and that's how you reload your gun uh stuff like

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that would be fantastic just all these different accessories which will make it

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so much better and then something like an omni so that you don't have to sit in

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this chair with a keyboard mouse cuz right now that's the most awkward thing

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is not the Oculus it's all the other things you have to do with the Oculus

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paired with the resolution issues so once the resolution issues are solved

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and all these accessories come out this be be freaking

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awesome oh man I'm stoked jeez so stoked

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that you don't even have to get an Oculus for Christmas to make it the

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central part of your Christmas yeah yeah all right I'll just bring it there

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speaking of more extremely exciting news steam o is available today we've

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Anan when he arrives so I don't want to get too much into it but uh we can talk

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about Steam OS actually I mean I guess it's slightly different I'll be talking

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with him about steam box not Steam OS

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yeah but a steam box is just a box with Steam OS on it and Hardware in it so

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anyway this was posted by guns cool on the Forum and the original article is

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from The Verge with um basically just an

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announcement that Steam OS will be available to download on Lucky Friday

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the 13th and beyond that valve is

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shipping out those 300 prototype steam

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boxes that they had whoops I'm on the wrong scene here that they had promised

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and uh a few lucky people are getting a very early look at Steam OS and steambox

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now to be clear

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um they're not really recommending that people just run out download Steam OS

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and then Chuck it on any old PC unless they're experienced Linux hack or people

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that are that are pretty good at that sort of thing already because it is not

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ready at all plus the learning curve will be a little bit steeper than if

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you're just installing Windows where it's just like put in USB press okay

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press okay press okay enter a product key and you're done I'm I'm thinking

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that if if it becomes available like I haven't I haven't seen if someone has a

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download link for it like I've gone to the Steam OS page and it says download will be available soon I don't know if

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that's actually where they're releasing it because it's in beta so someone has the proper download page if you could

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tweet it to me or spam it in chat or something that would be awesome and I

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might try and see if I can Tinker with it and if I can get it working easily

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enough over the weekend do you think we should do benchmarks or you think we should wait for the official release you

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you know what I am actually less interested in benchmarking Steam OS from

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a local play perspective okay and I am

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more interested in benchmarking Steam OS from a network play perspective but that

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should work it should yeah so that but

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doesn't actually make a ton of sense if Network play works well yeah which I

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don't see why it wouldn't and we're so close to Consumer grade 10 GB l

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that we could be looking at with compression 4K streaming by the time 4K

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TVs are really available and affordable and good um so with all of that in mind

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what I would like to take a look at more than anything else is the latency y of

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the network streaming so I actually all the things I got today I got so much

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cool stuff today you guys uh we got a new lens from Sigma it's a 24 to 105 I

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think 24 to 105 mm lens it's an F4 um

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the sharpness should be just outstanding some of their new stuff has been great

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we got our 4K recorder for the Sony fs700 camera so we are ready to rock

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with a sharp new lens and our 4K recorder so excited about that um I got

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okay this I mean I guess it doesn't sound as exciting as that stuff but this is the one I was about to say was I got

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a USB 2 GB Ethernet adapter for my shield so what's up um seem concerned

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what the title's wrong that's all keep going it's not wrong well okay I guess

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we should say we're live now fine um so

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right so I got a USB to GB Ethernet adapter so that means I'm going to be

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on my TV rather than relying on wireless and being limited to 720p so what we can

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do is because we just picked up one of

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these babies yeah that's right and because we

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have shield and because if you can figure it out we'll have Steam OS set up

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we could actually look at these different streaming Solutions which I really think is the future not

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necessarily streaming over the when over the internet but streaming to yourself

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to all your devices locally is extremely exciting to me extremely get

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it is is extremely exciting to me and

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I'd like to have a look at how all these Solutions are comparing to each other so stay tuned guys that is definitely

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something that we're going to be looking into later okay apparently we do have a

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link and you can download Steam OS right

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now that's so ghetto that's awesome super ghetto like FTP like oh wow that's

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amazing I I love you valve all right so

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this qualifies as a headline topic I mean come on man oh I'm stoked but it's

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it's more like a rapid fire topic but we're just turning it into a headline

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topic because whatever awesome all right so this was posted by nice hat on the

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Forum Microsoft's new smart bra stops

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so all right all right okay so hold on hold on let's let's be mature for a

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second here can we be mature for a second what

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I say the word boobies and you laugh is that how this works I actually didn't

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laugh at that no but braier smart bra nope not even uh smart bra

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so smart bra that's where you draw the line okay so it actually has a control

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board on it it has sensors for detecting

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your stress levels as well as your heart

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rates and um okay B basically it's a

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wearable stress sensor and you know okay I'm all for wearable tech and if it did

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something else I would probably be like oh that's pretty cool but it tells you

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to stop eating just like

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really now hold on a second now the the

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claim the claim right now so the designer when asked about a male version

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because it's like what so only women need to stop eating is that what you're trying to say okay so the designer said

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her team did try to develop a version for men but that male underwear is too

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far away from the heart for an accurate EKG

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reading so basically it'll only work for

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then it would work in theory yeah but then you could just buy the ladies

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version as long as they don't make it just sort of pink and frilly I mean okay wearable tech extremely exciting but I

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think for now to put the amount of

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processing power into something to make it legitimately useful we're going to be

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looking at this kind of wearable tech or this kind of wearable tech and not so

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much socks and brers and all that kind of stuff okay if they had a a smart

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breier so that you it could tell your phone your rate but it didn't but it

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didn't bleed out going oh my God you're eating too much that would make so much

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more sense to me if it was affordable that okay that's fine CU you

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could hey if it was a sports bra you could track your heart weight while running okay and you wouldn't have to

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wear any extra stuff so you don't mind if it's a piece of athletic gear I have

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I don't even care if it's a piece of personal gear it doesn't matter I just I think it's kind of insane that it's like

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cuz it one it's going to go off at all the wrong times I already brought this

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up with you you're going to be in a movie you're going to be enjoying the movie and get really into it your heart

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rate's going to go up like you're like going to take a bite of popcorn it's going to be

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like you're overstressed stop eating do you think it vibrates do you think it

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texts your phone how do you think it works you don't think it vibrates it communicates with your phone it doesn't

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vibrate you could keep your phone in your bra you could and then that could

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vibrate yes all right but like yeah

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you're going to be in a movie you're going to be eating and then it's going to freak out so the original article was

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from extreme Tech I think I had forgotten to say that before want to

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make sure that giv credit where credit is due and I I I don't even you know what guys

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hit us on the Twitter Blitz for this one let's let's do a Twitter Blitz right

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after this topic right after this next topic and before Anan joins us because

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it's just tell us your thoughts in 140 characters or less mine is tech on

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Twitter and I think that's about all we have to say so let's do one of our um

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let's do one of our rapid fire topics here we've actually got quite a few you

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know what this is something that was news apparently if you press enter right

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after it it turns into a link yeah that's good that it does that because that's annoying um it's a lot better

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than Excel where you have to actually highlight it into that field ridiculous

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okay so this was posted online as Tech tips forum and apparently I'm on page

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two oh no here we go so by snow Comet Sony announced a micro USB thumb drive

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uh for Android devices that is small enough to carry at all times it has a

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standard USB connector on one end so you can see standard USB here so that goes

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right into your port and then has micro USB on the other end it has on the-go

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functionality meaning that on Android 4.0.3 or later apparently 4.4 is not yet

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supported so that's kind of interesting uh you can have 8 gigs 16 gigs or 32

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gigs of storage available to you and the

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interesting to me thing to me about this was that this already exists but for

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some reason when Sony does it it's making you know headlines and when

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Patriot does it um we're the only ones who apparently know we've actually got a

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sample of the Stellar already so if my

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uh if my internet would go a little bit faster here I would be able to show that to you guys but basically it's pretty

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much the same thing and it's available in up to 64 gigs so Patriot has the jump

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on Sony for that particular thing speaking of your internet not going fast

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enough we might be getting some awesomeness on Tuesday or we like we are

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getting some awesomeness on Tuesday or we might be we are they're coming they're coming we are getting some

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awesomeness I watched the hobit last night so it's like

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it just total flashbacks that was awesome thank

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you okay so anyway we're we you going to tell them what's coming on Tuesday or

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well I I was you know more about it than I do oh well basically we have a new

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internet connection coming in it's going to be 50 mag down which who cares but

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up on fiber and we're probably like the

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only people in the area on fiber and I think the company that we're going

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doesn't do shared connection no they

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don't you should have seen he's on the phone and he like moves the phone away

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from his house or house head and freaks out and like falls to the floor and is

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all excited and then all of a sudden goes like yep that sounds

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good I didn't know it was a fiber connection no because that service is

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not fiber in every area it just happens to be fiber here yes because it's it's

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ADSL Plus in a lot of places and but

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they still have that service but it's like you know how it's always advertised

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Max 10 Meg whatever yeah yeah our area

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like I called the general line and they had to transfer me to like the fiber

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team in order to get it set up like our area is fiber that's awesome so I'm like

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super stalked I just made sure all your links were hyperlink for the future oh

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thank you ready to go I appreciate that and I'm internet was working that would

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be fantastic I am like super trying to do this but I am like super not having a

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ton of success and P rots SEO is super not terrific so between all of those

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super things going on right now there's not a whole lot I can do to show you guys the Stellar unless I can there it

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is yay oh really seriously oh yeah there

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we go there we go okay so this is the Stellar you guys so just like the Sony

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one it's got a micro USB on one end and then it has fulls size USB 3 which is

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even better than the Sony one on the other end available in three different

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sizes 1632 and 64 and it is on the go

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ready in fact just as a quick test I plugged it into the bottom of my one and

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it worked flawlessly they also have the cosmos which is um not a USB thumb drive

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it's different it is a please have your

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site work thank you Cosmos which is an on thee-o so it

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has USB 2 on one end and micro USB on the other end uh SD card and micro SD

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card reader so this one's actually kind of cool because you're not just limited to the storage limited to the storage

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it's actually on the device itself you could just carry around like a Pelican

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case full of SD cards and then you could carry all the data with you if you were

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obsessive compulsive enough to actually manage like transferring everything and

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like archiving it all on SD so yeah I thought that was pretty cool as well all

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right so let's see what uh let's see what the Twitter verse has to say about

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wearable smart bras there's a bunch of people in the chat making fun of us for

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being all excited over an internet connection that is apparently not even that good I know it's not that good but

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this is Canada guys and it's like twice as good as our current

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twice as good as the best plan we can get from our current providers so

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whatever man still stoked yeah I mean imagine if you can program the bra as

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dimitr here says imagine if you could program the bra like you can program GPS

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with like different voices and like different attitudes that's horrible it's

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like you know the uh that episode of futur where they reprogram the ship's

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computer from being like you know an irritating dude that Bender always

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argues with to being like a seductive female so you could take your bra anywhere from

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like could dial it to like supportive girlfriend and it's like hey h you know

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you proba shouldn't grab that and then you could dial it all the way to like

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abusive boyfriend it's like hey if you eat one more of those I'm leaving you

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something that's horrible it's sort of horrible see it's just going to help

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anorexia which is like not good if it just tracked like your heart rate and

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like other things and gave you statistics so you could like follow your

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thing and like if if it helped like Health apps and all that kind of stuff like that could be really cool but Hater

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Hater right here here on the stream zor bot's always a hater I know what a hater

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literally always a hater uh we're getting it's telis fiber so I know it's

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Tellis so all the promises in the world

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we'll see but anyway um I bet Bill Gates

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put a camera in Le bra I I bet he didn't I bet he has better things to do that

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would be a lot nicer than using weird on the-go cables indeed we mini what I I

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haven't even heard of this no one has even T hashtag boobies really that was

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the best you could come up

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with apparently I'm getting Justin through finals week with this stream

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it's like a chain man I am I am I I

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don't think this stream will help you with your finals no although if he has

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like scheduled breaks so that he can stay

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focused scheduled breaks at 4:30 on Fridays exactly for anywhere from 1 and

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a half to two and a half hours that was so specific all right oh

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there's a better way to download Through The Unofficial torrent so guys check

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that out as long that is yeah whatever

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but although it's on Steam db. info yeah it's probably fine watching from work I

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could feel the Judgment from you just leaving the bra picture up yeah we are

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definitely judging that idea um how do you plan to prevent Steam OS spam in the

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twitch chat we're not we're not it seems to be fine already yeah I guess Windows

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and steam will unite to provide the world the first game streaming

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brought all right so basically people don't have to say about the smart bra

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which I guess shouldn't surprise us that much all right so we've got our special wait wait wait finally one I believe Ms

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said the smart bra would be for other purposes Health apps are already a thing

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and more data could be useful for them all right so more data for the health

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apps that already exist okay fine but I

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mean I just don't the level of okay I

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don't see it happening anytime soon that part I do agree with though yep if it

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interfaces with your phone and helps currently existing Health apps that

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totally makes sense yelling at you for eating too much I don't think is the

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right angle that doesn't seem like a good

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idea you're probably just creating a problem so terrible all right so we have

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a special guest joining us do I have headphones you do they're over here you

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are amazing uh slick set up the stream all by his big boy self today and I am

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extremely impressed so far with how well it's working well remember when you used

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to set it up and the audio never worked well that's because we had the worst

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audio setup on the planet I love our new audio setup if I had enough time it

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worked the best we ever had it working it's so great just say yeah well but

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this one's kind of nice cuz it just kind of works instantaneously you have to

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like spend literally two hours trying to balance everything yeah it's great all

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right I'm dragging him up all right user was moved to your channel I hope he's

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ready I am ready hey how are you welcome

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to the show I'm doing all right thanks for

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thanks for having me that this is absolutely Ely fantastic so all right

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I'm going to start I'm I'm actually sorry I know I just brought you in but I

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I actually have to not let you talk for just a moment here because not everyone

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would have necessarily seen the intro so guys I'm introducing Anand from Anand

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right here this is his head right here you'll be hearing his melodic voice in

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your heads or at least you'll think it's melodic if you're anywhere near as much

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of a fanboy of this guy as I am now I did an interview of him I'm I'm totally

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probably making you blush so it's a good thing there's no video feed but I did an

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interview of him at computex that my staff hid the footage from me and

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wouldn't allow me to upload because apparently it was just about an hour of

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me gushing about his greatness but now

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we're live and so there's nothing that they can do to prevent this from being

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broadcast to the entire internet so Anan

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is the guy who got me into Tech more than anyone else I've read almost

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everything he's ever written and I have a lot of respect for this guy so

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normally I ask my guest to introduce themselves but I think I've probably

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introduced you a fair bit here do you have anything else to say no you this is like super kind of

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you um and so no I I have nothing to add

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this is this is awesome and congratulations by the way you've been Like Making Waves and and clearly uh

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putting in a lot of good work and it's good to see that you uh you get recognized for that well thank you very

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much I think that leads pretty well into our very first topic here now you were I

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mean okay I remember asking you this question but I'm I'm going to make you answer it I'm going to make you answer

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it on air you always wear a suit even in

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Taipei in the middle of summer can you

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talk about the origins of anante and a little bit about the print to digital

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media transition and how you've

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experienced it and lived through it yeah

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totally um okay so the suit has a couple of things um so I I started when I

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started the site I was 14 and uh I don't know my parents always raised me to

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believe that when you do something important you wear a suit so I was I

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don't know meeting with people and I figured got to wear a suit um so I did

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that for a while and then at some point I guess I I stopped being a kid but I

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kept with the whole suit thing um because one thing I realized was a lot

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of the other folks um that were you know in the industry

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doing similar things weren't necessarily doing things as professionally as I

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thought that they should be doing them um so I I use the suit as kind of a way

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to to at least when I walk in a room to to help explain that look we're here to

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work um I mean since then the you know

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industry's Consolidated things have like calm down a bit but um the suit always

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kind of stayed um now every now and then I do slip up like uh I mean it went I

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probably went like a decade without anyone ever seeing me outside of a suit

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cuz like that's not how I dress at home like I'm not wearing a suit right now

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um so I I I kept the facade going for

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like a really really long time and then one time I I think I was speaking at

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maybe at Quake conon or something like that and I remember getting out of uh a

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car and I was like in basketball shorts I hadn't shaved in

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days and I think some people from AMD saw me and they're like what the hell is

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this so since then you know I've kind of I've kind of slacked a bit like no I

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won't wear like dress shoes anymore right I'll wear sneakers cuz like I

433
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,480
don't know I review really cool stuff and it like blows my mind how they're able to do all of this but my feet have

434
00:30:55,799 --> 00:31:02,240
to hurt at the end of a trade show so I'm not okay with that so I I I dish the

435
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:06,559
dress shoes I I'll usually wear the suit a few times like I I'm I'm an old dude

436
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:11,200
now right like I'll I'll not wear a tie sometimes and just like really slack

437
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:16,440
off um okay so that answers the suit question uh origins of an ontech um long

438
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:21,000
story short I was like I don't know my parents are teachers we didn't have a

439
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:22,799
ton of money um I needed a new computer

440
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,240
my dad was like hey just build one cuz back then you could save a lot of money

441
00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:30,360
doing that right um I had no idea what I was doing so I flipped through computer

442
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,960
shop her pointed at stuff and and you know we ordered things and I put it

443
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,760
together and of course I shorted the motherboard to the chassis so I killed

444
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:41,720
the motherboard my dad's like you're done um my mom's like no no no it's okay

445
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,720
we we'll get you another motherboard um totally like piece of crap motherboard 2

446
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:50,039
had like fake cash on it the whole thing um so I build that and I'm like hey this

447
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:54,799
is kind of cool I have a new computer um and I learned a lot in the process uh my

448
00:31:52,440 --> 00:32:00,840
dad's a uh he was a teacher at a college at the time and um other faculty

449
00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:04,519
students were in a similar situation so this was like sevenish grade for me he

450
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:08,399
would like pick me up after school and I'd go around and build people computers

451
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:11,480
um and then you know they'd have problems with their computers so I'd go

452
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:15,440
around and fix them um so I did that for like two years and then 97 hit and both

453
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:21,159
my parents being teachers I had this like bug to want to teach and share knowledge uh so I kind of brain dumped

454
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:28,080
online and and that's where we started um on a geoc cities page right yep geoc

455
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:31,480
cities.com uh

456
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:35,240
I think SLS and Valley Pine 9297 that

457
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:38,720
was the that was the UR um nice so yeah

458
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,720
I did that and uh I I I don't know I was

459
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,840
14 I didn't know what I was doing I just wanted to share thoughts and uh I hadn't

460
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,120
really thought about the whole print to internet transition um and actually you

461
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,840
know I was doing it for years when you know print was still on this this

462
00:32:51,159 --> 00:32:57,880
pedestal and you know it was just you're the you're the online guys or or you're

463
00:32:54,639 --> 00:33:00,440
the online guy that wears a suit um and

464
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:04,480
and yeah I mean it it took a while for that transition from from print to

465
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:08,880
digital to to really become a holy crap we need to do this um kind of thing uh

466
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,919
and and I would say that that really probably happened in the in the past

467
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:17,000
handful of years um where you know you go through the past recession uh you

468
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:22,720
know where everyone gets hit advertising wise um and you know the print guys got

469
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:24,760
hit the worst um so I think that's you

470
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,840
know you could point to that point as well you know you had better have jumped

471
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:33,559
by now cuz otherwise you're going to have a a difficult time or hope you have

472
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:37,960
a lot of money so another question I had for you you know I guess so for you the

473
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,440
the long and short of that is right place right time as far as the the

474
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:47,000
brilliant idea of starting up a website in order to get your thoughts out there

475
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:51,279
about PCS as opposed to trying to make a magazine or whatever else but well so I

476
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:57,200
would I would add right place right time right age um cuz one thing I do is I I

477
00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:01,080
talk to um I I go around and talk to like kids high school that was a very

478
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:05,399
formulative period of of my life and uh I had a very unique High School career

479
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,399
where uh you know I was in school I was on TV and and you know I was also

480
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:11,919
working with you know all these amazing companies and learning a lot uh and one

481
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,520
of the things that I I like to tell kids is that you know those four years you

482
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:20,079
have in high school um that's like a free ride right like you get your work

483
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:24,040
done but those your four years to get your way towards you know your your

484
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:27,320
10,000 hours right you you pick a passion you pick something that you

485
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,240
don't need to make money with um that you can just just pour all of your time

486
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:36,079
into you don't have to worry about hopefully like a rent or mortgage payment you just dive into it and and

487
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:40,359
you know work towards being an expert at something uh so that when you step foot

488
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:44,839
in college you you know can go to learn and and not necessarily go to hopefully

489
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:48,760
one day start building a career right that's actually a very very good point

490
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:54,000
and uh something I wish I had done a little bit better on my path I did not

491
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:56,280
get started nearly as early as you um so

492
00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:01,320
the the basis of an onac at the beginning was of course p but over the

493
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:05,760
last few years I've seen I've seen your interests shift and hence the articles

494
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:10,520
that you're writing really shift towards things like home theater you went on a

495
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:12,800
bit of a kick um a bit of a home theater

496
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:20,200
kick for a little while um you've moved a away from PC strictly to doing a lot

497
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:23,079
of first Mac coverage and then now um

498
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:26,680
iOS coverage so Apple devices in general and where do you see a non-tech heading

499
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,320
in the future I mean you guys have I mean Brian clug if he's if he's anywhere

500
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:34,520
near you please just yell at him and tell him how amazing he is when it comes

501
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:38,599
to phone reviews you guys have positioned yourselves through his hard

502
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:42,599
work I mean sweat Blood and Tears goes into that as really in my mind the

503
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:46,400
premier phone review site but what what do you think is the next step I

504
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:49,680
appreciate that no Brian isn't sitting next to me he's uh he's in Arizona right

505
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:54,359
now working actually on another phone review um but he uh he's amazing like I

506
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:59,319
I'm I'm actually really really proud of our entire team um so it's interesting

507
00:35:57,319 --> 00:36:02,560
if you you look at it through you you kind of hit the nail on the head there

508
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:07,040
yeah right like um a lot of our coverage does uh or at least what I do kind of

509
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:10,920
follows my interest um you know I was building a home theater so I said hey

510
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:17,200
maybe I should look in home theater PCS and I remember walking into a compiler

511
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:21,280
class in college uh this was back in 02

512
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,280
or 03 I remember walking in uh in the uh

513
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,000
I guess this was in the College of Engineering Building um or maybe in the computer science building so I walk in

514
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,760
and I look around and everyone has a Mac laptop and like this is really weird um

515
00:36:29,319 --> 00:36:34,920
because you know for years this you wouldn't see that and uh that was

516
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:39,400
actually what inspired me to to go out buy Mac and and start using that um and

517
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,839
and that spawned you know our Mac coverage um and then you know from there

518
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:47,640
you you said it yourself we we branched out into Mobile what is interesting from

519
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,240
my perspective is I I don't actually view this as any different as what we

520
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:57,880
you know did when I started right like it's all we get into compute when it

521
00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:00,800
hits a a certain level of sophistication

522
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:04,960
right um right and you know we our our phone coverage kind of basically started

523
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:08,240
with the iPhone um back in 07 we had some false starts internally when we

524
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,800
said hey you know how do we grow we need other things to do um and and you know

525
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,160
we we messed around with just kind of more regular phone reviews and you know

526
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,160
playing around with pdas and Windows mobile and stuff like that but none of

527
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,960
those projects ever really got off the ground and then you know we we kind of

528
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:28,280
tried again with the iPhone um and that did relatively well um and then you know

529
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:32,800
a couple years into it we we started adding more um and then definitely over

530
00:37:30,359 --> 00:37:36,480
the past I'd say three or four years um we really ramped up our Mobile coverage

531
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:40,480
um but from my perspective they're all PCS right it's just a different box um

532
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:45,680
and and you know it's a different Cadence of release right because we do Enterprise reviews as well but that's

533
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:50,319
just like a really really big computer that comes out you know once every year

534
00:37:47,839 --> 00:37:56,280
or two I mean I think that's something that um that I I think the post PC era

535
00:37:53,319 --> 00:38:00,359
is such a misnomer because the sitting at a desk doing work

536
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:03,480
uh experience is not going to go away I mean this is much like a bit of an a

537
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:08,920
back and forth argument that I've had with my viewers over the last little while where I said that the PS4 and the

538
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:12,079
Xbox One are the last generation of consoles as we know them and I'd have

539
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,599
people telling me well what I'm not going to game on my couch anymore no

540
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,960
that's not what I'm saying the couch gaming experience is not going anywhere

541
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:25,160
it's just that the console is going somewhere so in much the same way that

542
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,960
the sitting at a desk with a big Monitor and getting real work done isn't going

543
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:32,480
anywhere I think the device that we do it on is the thing that might just be

544
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:37,160
changing over the next 5 to 10 years and it's just they're all PCS just yeah and

545
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:45,040
because that's I mean I would I would say the same thing on a console right like if you look at you know 360 PS3 PS4

546
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:46,599
Xbox One it's just PCS it's their like

547
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:52,680
really weird PCS that are made by Microsoft and Sony but they're just PCS

548
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,359
um and you know how how well valve does

549
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,119
with steambox over the next decade I think we will ultimately determine

550
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:03,040
whether or not we get another console refund fresh so let's talk about weird

551
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:08,119
PCS with steam box because that's our next topic very nice Segway by the way

552
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:12,720
um digital storm has given some details on their upcoming steam os/ Windows so

553
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,280
they're planning to preload both os's on it from what I've seen but I guess you

554
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:22,520
could probably opt out of Windows um so this is a gaming box with liquid cooling

555
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:25,400
on the CPU up to a 700 wat power supply

556
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:30,760
um it's going to be around $1,500 have a have a powerful graphics card in it um

557
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:35,560
and then the other end of the spectrum we've got guys like IB power with their

558
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:40,200
$500 machine that's going to have I think it was an r r9270 or something

559
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:45,440
along those lines like a much more uh middle-of the road graphics card where

560
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:49,760
do you see Steam OS and steam box which to be clear for the viewers guys a steam

561
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,319
box is just a computer in much the same way that all the other things we're

562
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:56,359
talking about are just computers that happens to run Steam OS it's just it's

563
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,319
just a box that you bought from someone that is validated pre-loaded with steam

564
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:05,160
that's all the steam box is so how do you see Steam Box fitting in with the

565
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:11,960
current consoles and with PC moving forward um okay so uh it's a really

566
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:17,040
really good idea um it's actually I was at a uh a dinner um like a secret Intel

567
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:25,560
laraby dinner which I guess I can talk about now because laraby never happened for consumers um okay hold on a second

568
00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:28,119
is it okay to reveal a secret that never

569
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:31,440
truly fully got revealed I mean they they announced it right it's

570
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:37,000
just I was never supposed to talk about this dinner but I'm gonna talk about the

571
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,319
dinner now so and um it's not actually

572
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,880
like it's now I've hyped it up too much the dinner it doesn't I mean it was a great dinner it's just it's irrelevant

573
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,040
to the current conversation the food was good yeah I know it was actually yeah it

574
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:53,200
was it was an entertaining dinner anyways Charlie from semi accurate he was he was at the dinner and he floats

575
00:40:49,319 --> 00:40:55,319
this idea of um and this is years ago

576
00:40:53,200 --> 00:41:01,520
right like laraby time frame like pre a lot of stuff um so he floats this idea

577
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:06,240
that you know AMD and Intel should get together develop a list of specs and

578
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:10,720
make you know develop a little badge program and make Hardware vendors go out

579
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,000
meet the specs and you know they can distribute like an OS like a little

580
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:20,079
virtualized or like a hypervisor or something like that um like on a USB

581
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:22,359
stick um and this would be like a very

582
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:26,160
custom console gaming OS that would that would run on this hypervisor uh and

583
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:30,000
you'd have this logo program which would ensure that you would meet the specs and

584
00:41:28,359 --> 00:41:34,480
sorry can I can I interrupt you for a second do you want to just explain to the viewers who don't know what

585
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:39,640
hypervisor is sort of what that would mean exactly oh true yeah sure um

586
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:44,720
basically a thing that you can run multiple virtualized os's on um so you

587
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,400
you would run uh so like if you have a Mac how you can run Windows on it right

588
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:52,680
so like you'll your VMware will be your hypervisor and then Windows will be you

589
00:41:50,359 --> 00:41:57,200
know your uh uh if you run Windows alongside OS 10 like in OS 10

590
00:41:55,319 --> 00:42:01,800
effectively um but basically you look look at it like this or actually the OS

591
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:06,560
that um the Xbox one runs right so it has a hypervisor that runs the Xbox

592
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:11,000
gaming OS as well as the the Windows kernel side by side um and you know you

593
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,480
switch between them anyway so this is his idea and and I heard it I'm like

594
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:20,119
this is amazing this is exactly what we need to do because the console model of

595
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,920
hey you know you got a a certain amount of money you has to go to the publisher

596
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,800
a certain amount of money has to go to you know you know the the owner of the

597
00:42:24,839 --> 00:42:29,640
platform like that's all silly like there's reason to have that anymore

598
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:34,280
because we have the internet and we have Steam and you know steam handles

599
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:39,319
distribution for you and at that time if you looked at what was happening to PC

600
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:44,760
gaming I remember I walked into a Best Buy one day and I was like well where

601
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:46,119
are all the PC games and it like worried

602
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:51,280
me right because it was kind of this started happening right before steam

603
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,000
picked up a lot of steam right like before it got really really good where

604
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,319
you know you don't have to worry about PC gaming anymore um and and it was

605
00:42:56,319 --> 00:43:03,920
worrisome to me so I heard this idea and I'm like this is amazing this is the

606
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:05,359
exact way to save PC gaming um and it

607
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,760
was a great idea but but you know nothing ever came of it and then you know valve starts talking about Steam OS

608
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:15,119
and steam box and I'm like God this is amazing this is exactly what he was talking about years ago and I believe in

609
00:43:13,319 --> 00:43:20,920
it um I I think it's a really really good idea the the wrinkle in all of this

610
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:25,880
is can you get killer titles ported over

611
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:27,720
to Linux um and the answer is yes I'm

612
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:33,800
going to argue it doesn't matter that's that's going to be that's going to be sort of my my take on all this

613
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:37,920
because if valve can Implement their streaming the way that they're saying

614
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:42,280
that they can like if I'm going to be able to stream 1080P or you know a

615
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:47,480
couple years from now when we're looking at 10 gab home networking over cat 6

616
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:53,119
being something that people can feasibly do if all of a sudden we can stream

617
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,319
1080P or 4K from some other device

618
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:58,240
within the house whether that's a Windows based gaming PC or whatever else

619
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:03,160
it happens to be in the future then I would make the argument that whether the

620
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,240
game runs natively on Steam OS or not

621
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:10,200
becomes irrelevant and the the steam the

622
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:12,920
steam box in its in its best form to me

623
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:15,720
is almost just a thin client that acts as a streaming box from whatever else

624
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:22,359
happens to be in your house I mean for me I think the first thing I thought when I heard about NVIDIA grid was not

625
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:25,520
um playing games over the Internet the first thing that I thought was holy crap

626
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,880
I'd love to get one of those for like a land Center or for my house so that

627
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:34,520
every PC in my house whether it runs an atom with onboard Intel Graphics or

628
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:39,040
whether it runs whatever other high-end stuff you know dual GTX Titans is able

629
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:43,800
to have a fantastic gaming experience so that that's my take on it and maybe like

630
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:49,119
let me know what you think do we does it matter Linux compatibility for the games

631
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:53,839
so you may bring up a really good point um but I so I separate that from cuz at

632
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:58,000
that point then you don't need Steam OS right all you need is like a a a sync

633
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:02,000
right like you just need a wireless sync for you know that connects to your TV

634
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:07,319
and I'm guessing you know NVIDIA's already kind of done that with shield

635
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:09,319
and I'm guessing there'll be uh if you

636
00:45:07,319 --> 00:45:11,800
play in that space you know chances are you'll want to build a similar device

637
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,960
right so that's that's kind of independent of in my eyes of Steam OS

638
00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:20,760
being a success or not um right because like you can you can build and deliver

639
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:25,680
that experience today right like there's no you don't need anything else um what

640
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:29,559
I'm what I'm looking at Steam OS being successful at is can you duplicate the

641
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:33,640
console model right can you get to the point where someone who knows doesn't

642
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:40,200
own a gaming PC like he just runs like word on his notebook from 10 years ago

643
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:41,920
um can that guy or girl go out and say

644
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,920
Hey I want this I don't want an Xbox I don't want a PlayStation I want this I

645
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,640
don't I don't know what PC gaming is I don't know what steam is but this is

646
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:53,960
what I want in my living room like can they get to that point um and and you

647
00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:58,800
know if you uh you you were at the Montreal thing weren't you yeah I was

648
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:02,079
yeah so if you listen to you know all those guys up there CarMax Sweeny you

649
00:46:00,839 --> 00:46:08,800
know they all said hey this is a crazy idea give it 10 years and and you know maybe it'll work um if they can get to

650
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:14,920
that ease of use model right I I think it could definitely definitely replace

651
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:17,599
uh consoles the issue though is if we're

652
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:21,480
talking about a 10-year Horizon before this thing's successful that that does

653
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:26,160
leave room for another another go from the the traditional console players if

654
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:31,359
they made it so that there was a a version or a bottle or a type of steam

655
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:36,800
box that you could buy that was by default automatically launched into uh

656
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:40,400
big picture MH and just put you directly into big picture and did not really take

657
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:44,079
you out I think that could bridge that Gap but if it launched directly into

658
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,200
Steam OS it could be a little bit foreign because you're sitting in Linux

659
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:51,640
right and the other thing that the other thing that bothers me a little bit um

660
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,800
from from like I understand why valve's doing this because they need to cater to

661
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,640
the traditional PC gaming Market they can't they can't tell those guys yeah

662
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,000
hey I know you thought we were cool before but we're going to just we're going to

663
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,079
lock down steambox hardware and there's going to be one Hardware configuration

664
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:08,040
there's going to be a reference design just like a traditional console we're

665
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:12,400
going to refresh it every 3 years or whatever else um I don't think anyone

666
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:18,319
would have accepted that but the issue is that one of the major complaints that

667
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:22,000
you get from a dieh hard console player is I don't want to upgrade my Hardware

668
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:27,480
every year every 2 years and I don't want to worry about GTX this or radon

669
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:32,640
that that happens to be on the box I want to or inside the box I want to go

670
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:35,440
to Best Buy I want to buy the thing with the price tag under it there's one price

671
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:40,280
tag there's one thing I want to take it home I want to put my game in it and I want to have the experience that all my

672
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:46,559
buddies are having whereas I think opening up the hardware to just anything

673
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:51,119
um is not the strategy that we've seen work so well for companies like

674
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:54,760
Microsoft with the Xbox or like apple with the iPhone and the iPad where it's

675
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:59,119
this tightly integrated experience that they're managing I mean something that

676
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:04,160
Apple does so well is no iPhone will ever ship with a crappy Wireless chipset

677
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:09,920
from some noname whereas it will be possible for people to buy a steam box

678
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:13,839
with offbrand audio components or Wireless components and have a bad

679
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:18,520
experience and blame it on Steam OS or on steambox rather than on the true the

680
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:22,920
true culprit and I think that by trying to Target a less techsavvy audience you

681
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:25,760
open yourself up to that so I I'd agree with that um but I would say that those

682
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:29,839
are like that's something you can easily mitigate right so so you know Microsoft

683
00:48:28,359 --> 00:48:34,319
tries to do this with you know the Windows Hardware approval process right

684
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:38,400
it's just that they set the bar so low that everyone can play I mean they have

685
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:43,760
to right they're like no we need to sell Windows because otherwise we can't we

686
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:45,640
need Windows um whereas valve isn't in

687
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,200
that position right so if I'm at valve you know you just go hardcore about it

688
00:48:47,319 --> 00:48:54,119
right we'll give you you know you want this official steam box logo or whatever

689
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:59,319
you have to not ship like just terrible Hardware um so I I think that's a that's

690
00:48:56,799 --> 00:49:03,799
something that you can get around um you know Big Picture Mode it's I I actually

691
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:08,119
wrote about this in our gcent coverage that it seems like there are a lot of

692
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:14,400
individual projects um that are out in in the PC

693
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:16,920
gaming world right now uh that if we

694
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:21,680
just polished them all up we would be we'd be very close to like a a hyper

695
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,000
console experience right so something that's even you know it used to be that

696
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,799
hey consoles they were simple you didn't need to worry about installing your game

697
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:33,440
and and updates and none of that but like remember cartridges no loading

698
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:36,920
screens no and now it's like well you got to put in the disc and like wait

699
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:41,960
three and a half minutes because it has to install and like there's a disc so

700
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:46,400
like now it's a it's a very update yeah and it's not all the whole premise of

701
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,359
this being an easy to use different thing like it has a web browser now it's

702
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:54,839
just it's no longer what a console used to be it's just a managed PC now um so I

703
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:59,119
feel like if you look at you look at GeForce experience right y that's that's

704
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:03,799
a way of abstracting the whole you have to Define settings um which works right

705
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:07,280
you look at steam's Big Picture Mode that gets away from you know there's a

706
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:11,440
window Desktop Windows desktop in the background um and then you look at

707
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:17,040
Technologies like g-sync and now you're getting into this realm of well not only

708
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,640
does it look better have cheaper games

709
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:22,440
and you know whatever compared to a console but like it's actually also

710
00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:26,079
smoother too right like this is like this is it's it's insane so we have all

711
00:50:24,799 --> 00:50:32,440
of these like little things but all of them need right cuz Big Picture Mode is close but

712
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:38,599
it's still kind of valy you know it's not quite there and gsync is locked down

713
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:40,240
to NVIDIA hardware and mantle I mean

714
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:44,799
they're saying it's not locked down but I I think it'll be a cold day in Hell

715
00:50:41,799 --> 00:50:46,559
before NVIDIA um gets on board with

716
00:50:44,799 --> 00:50:51,520
project mantle and so all these things it's just like you're saying they need to all kind of come together um but this

717
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:55,359
this Segways really well into our next topic which is g-sync now I've got a

718
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,520
g-sync monitor here as well the same one you have um so so I've played with it

719
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,079
myself but I read almost everything you write regardless of whether I've already

720
00:51:00,839 --> 00:51:06,440
got one and I've already got my own impressions of it formed as well anyway

721
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:10,960
so I did notice that you were the one who did the gsync article for your

722
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:15,079
website um you did I guess you were was it because you were particularly excited

723
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:18,520
about it or um you know did you just want to make sure that it was done 100%

724
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,960
right the article was great give me your your thoughts in I guess verbal form as

725
00:51:21,319 --> 00:51:28,160
opposed to asking everyone to necessarily read the article although they definitely should it's only about

726
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:32,280
four pages how important is g-sync for the future of PC gaming and just for the

727
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:37,440
future of better image quality in general yeah so um I I don't know I it's

728
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:42,839
no there's no like big story as to why I was the one that wrote it then video was like Hey we're sending you a monitor and

729
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:48,119
I was like hey yeah I'm busy I have like stuff to do and like no you have to it

730
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:52,400
doesn't I don't care just just take the

731
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:56,000
monitor so so yeah that that was the the

732
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:58,040
long story of that um so what do I think

733
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:04,200
of G saying um I was kind of expecting it to just like completely like just

734
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:06,040
suck right cuz I saw it in Montreal and

735
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:10,559
I you you saw it there and like what they showed was impressive right like I

736
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:14,680
looked at like this is good um but they showed it in the pendulum demo and like

737
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:19,240
I couldn't really play with it and yeah and Tomb Raider in that one spot where

738
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,880
you stood next to that one mountain that's like and you panned around the

739
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:27,680
character at two different speeds I was just like come on guys exactly I'm like

740
00:52:25,799 --> 00:52:32,160
come on this is not I so I'm fully expecting it to just be miserable and

741
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:36,720
for like the first day day and a half that's that was my experience um I I

742
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:42,079
kind of mentioned it in the review uh I had this um this Titan system uh the the

743
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:46,359
tiki from Falcon Northwest that that you know I got when the Titan launched and

744
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:52,400
dude like the thing was just like hard lock um whenever just I did anything and

745
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:56,640
when I could get it to be stable like I totally wiped the machine did a brand

746
00:52:54,319 --> 00:53:00,839
new install Windows 8.1 latest drivers whatever uh and and whenever I just even

747
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:07,400
running benchmarks when I could get them to run on this Titan they were running

748
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:09,280
like slower than the the GTX 760 so at

749
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:14,319
first and and you know I I have um Dell's uh 24in 4K here so I switch

750
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,359
monitors and switch the monitors and every all the problems go away

751
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:24,680
everything's fine so at first I thought oh this this thing sucks um and then I

752
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:26,720
had a GTX 660 Ti uh on a different test

753
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:30,520
bed plug it in the thing won't even like post like I don't even there's no

754
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:34,400
nothing out of the display so I'm like okay this is really really bad um and

755
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:42,599
then you know a third time to charm I had a a GTX 760 from EVGA and uh worked

756
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:44,640
perfectly so uh when I got to that point

757
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:49,119
I was really really worried but no it it literally worked in everything like

758
00:53:45,799 --> 00:53:51,440
there were no issues I I never ran into

759
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:56,200
uh any like weird hiccups or visual glitches or anything like that um it all

760
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,880
worked and it worked and looked just as good as it did in Montreal which was

761
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:06,680
kind of amazing um it was frustrating to me that the pendulum demo doesn't let

762
00:54:02,799 --> 00:54:08,920
you it doesn't deal with any scenario

763
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:13,559
greater than uh 60 frames a second like I can't do any of the 120 or 144 testing

764
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:17,680
there um that was kind of frustrating but I spent a lot of time playing games

765
00:54:15,319 --> 00:54:22,839
which um I don't get time to do anymore um so that was kind of cool um and I

766
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:28,680
don't know I posted some videos that kind of show the effect uh it it you

767
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:30,760
know makes me hate tearing a lot um Y

768
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:35,680
and uh yeah I thought there was a there was a substantial benefit to to using

769
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:41,559
this versus vsync on um obviously a substantial benefit versus uh you know

770
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:44,440
vsync off less pronounced of a benefit

771
00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:49,599
versus vsnc off at a really high refresh rate um which I think that's a that's a

772
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:56,920
key thing for you know any hardcore Gamers right now they're already running at 144 or 120 um they're still an

773
00:54:53,960 --> 00:55:02,839
advantage it's just not nearly as pronounced as it is at 60 well to me to

774
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:08,079
me the issue here sorry do do you mind no no go for okay to me the issue here

775
00:55:05,319 --> 00:55:14,520
is a couple of things so number one is that NVIDIA shipped their g-sync

776
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:17,839
evaluation monitor um and it's a one

777
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,400
it's a 1080p panel and it's a 144 Herz

778
00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:22,400
panel and I I don't find it much the same way that that you didn't see as

779
00:55:20,839 --> 00:55:26,799
much of a difference there I don't find that at extremely high refresh rates it

780
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:31,280
is as huge and night and day of a difference as it is at you know 60

781
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:36,119
frames per second and NVIDIA knows that and then number two is that because it's

782
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:41,760
only a 1080p monitor in modern games with a decent graphics card because the

783
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:46,480
the the the pace at which graphics cards have been improving in performance has

784
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:51,039
really begun to slow down even you know a last generation card like a 660 Ti can

785
00:55:48,839 --> 00:55:54,799
run most modern games and not really worry too much at dipping below 60

786
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:59,039
frames per second unless you're cranking up details that begin to to not really

787
00:55:57,039 --> 00:56:03,680
affect image quality unless you're doing side by-side screenshot comparisons and

788
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:09,280
and and peering at them with a magnifying glass um so to me that the

789
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:14,880
issue is that they shipped completely the wrong product to Showcase it and I

790
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:19,839
think that if they had shipped a 1440p panel so something that can actually um

791
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:25,280
something that runs out of resolution where it's going to demand more of a GTX

792
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:29,119
780 or a GTX Titan than it can provide and dip below 6 frames per second once

793
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:33,000
in a while and if they had stuck with a 60 HZ monitor I think it would have made

794
00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:37,559
for a much more impressive first experience so yeah I'd agree with that I

795
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:41,520
mean one I'm just not a fan of this panel like it's just not a like it's

796
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:46,599
okay games it's just not a I mean and part of it it's it's a cheaper display

797
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:47,799
right um well it's not but well yeah I

798
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:53,799
know but it's not like a you know it's not like a $600 display right or $1,000

799
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:55,400
display um so and and again for games

800
00:56:53,799 --> 00:57:00,760
like whatever you get lost in it it's fine um so I wasn't a huge fan of of the

801
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:06,000
display they chose my guess is it was probably one of the easiest to kind of

802
00:57:02,839 --> 00:57:07,359
retrofit um and even if you I actually I

803
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,240
want to take apart one of the ones that isn't a g-sync monitor because I I don't

804
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:16,799
know if you saw on the inside of it it's got an NVIDIA branded PCB yeah I did see

805
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:20,839
that uh so I don't know cuz like they you know the whole thing is well we just

806
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:24,520
replaced the scaler um but at least in this display they replaced like it looks

807
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:28,079
like they replaced just there's this entire PCB that they've changed but I

808
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:33,920
don't know if the original also was designed by NVIDIA so that that's something I'm curious about so I had the

809
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:37,680
same conversation with them sorry hold that thought I had the same conversation

810
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:41,839
with them on the phone where I actually because I've had a lot of people asking

811
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:45,760
me lonus are we going to be able to mod our existing monitors and add gsync

812
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:53,559
functionality to them after the fact and what Tom said was um well I I I guess

813
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:56,200
you could but you would basically be

814
00:57:53,559 --> 00:58:02,280
soldering and like building a connector harness out of the interface for the

815
00:57:58,839 --> 00:58:03,760
panel itself and then connecting the the

816
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,520
the the gsync hardware that's inside your existing Monitor and like you'd be

817
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:12,559
you'd be doing this weird Frankenstein thing but when when I opened it up it

818
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:16,520
looked aside from just lining up the wires here and making sure that you

819
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:19,880
don't have any anything crossed and anything configured incorrectly it

820
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,559
looked very possible yeah so that's why I'm curious

821
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:27,079
to see what like a normal one of these monitors looks like on the inside cuz I

822
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:31,200
don't know about your is mine was like the all the hardware um the scaler board

823
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,520
and the NVIDIA like motherboard that it plugged into that was all just like

824
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:42,079
taped in place there were no screws it was just

825
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:44,000
tape so I I I don't I I'm just really

826
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:49,599
curious to see what the the unmodified ASUS display looks like um so yeah no I

827
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:53,359
mean for for folks who haven't seen it before right like the sweet spot for

828
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:59,520
g-sync is somewhere in that you know for me I I found it to be like 38 to to 60

829
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:02,920
frames a second um whereas normally when

830
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,720
you're running vsync on at a 60 HZ panel

831
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:08,240
you start dropping Below in that range and start getting like this really

832
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:12,079
really variable frame rate um that's out of sync with with your monitor you do

833
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,640
get this jutter right like it's it's clear that you know whatever you've

834
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,720
walked into a room where there's just like really detailed paintings on the

835
00:59:16,359 --> 00:59:21,119
wall and stuff right or like there's just tons of foliage outside um and you

836
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,599
get this shutter and you just kind of deal with it and then with g-sync in

837
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:30,079
that exact same situation it kind of feels like 60 frames a second it kind of

838
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:34,119
does actually it was I mean you tried it right yeah I know it feels really good

839
00:59:31,799 --> 00:59:37,680
it feels really good yeah that's not the kind of show we're running here man yeah

840
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:42,280
I know that's what I thought I was calling into I just talked about a bunch

841
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:46,319
of really boring stuff so he said he wasn't in a suit he's ready in his PJs

842
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:52,000
like he's in his like what what are you wearing over there dude the suit is like

843
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,000
long gone man

844
00:59:52,359 --> 01:00:01,520
like I just got back from a trip man that thing is it's done it's um no so I

845
00:59:59,559 --> 01:00:05,359
agree like they they picked an interesting panel um I you know I was

846
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:10,400
able to find a bunch of games where even on a 760 you know dropping below 60

847
01:00:07,799 --> 01:00:14,119
wasn't an issue um but what I found is just the experience is terrible if you

848
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:21,079
drop below 30 like it's just it gets real bad um so you you really need fast

849
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:23,280
enough to be above 30 uh but you know

850
01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:26,160
you need the the optimal combination of of settings and Hardware to make sure

851
01:00:24,839 --> 01:00:29,799
you're always in that sweet spot for this to do anything right you know

852
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,799
what's funny uh sorry go go ahead you can finish that thought but I just I

853
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:37,599
have another thing to add to the vsync on versus gsync scenario okay yeah no

854
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,920
all I was going to say is this actually um what carac said I think he was the

855
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:45,559
one that said it on stage resonates really well with me now in that uh game

856
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:49,520
developers no longer have to Target 60 right like they can they can be okay

857
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,960
dipping down to some of these lower and that's assuming that this is something

858
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:57,359
that's you know supported by more than just NVIDIA but I I think that's where a

859
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:01,119
lot of the potential is that and and it's a good way of dealing with the

860
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:05,400
stupidly high resolution displays which formerly you know you needed to have

861
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:09,559
basically whatever the most expensive by Jensen and new Ferrari kind of or kex

862
01:01:07,559 --> 01:01:15,640
kind of cards were so my whole thing on vsync versus

863
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:19,319
gsync is I agree with you completely that it helps with the the stutter which

864
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:24,280
it does and that's great and it's fantastic but for me my biggest problem

865
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:28,680
with vsync isn't really stutter because I tend to run very high-end Hardware so

866
01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:33,480
even from a high-end gamer perspective something I think NVIDIA isn't talking

867
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:37,200
about enough maybe because they don't know how to quantify it and maybe

868
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,760
because such a small subset of their customers will even be able to relate to

869
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:47,280
it because it'll only be the high-end guys but to me my big problem with vsync

870
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:50,079
has always been input leg I can feel it

871
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:54,279
particularly in some game engines where left for dead was the first game I think

872
01:01:52,279 --> 01:01:58,760
where it really drove me absolutely bananas to have to choose between the

873
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:03,559
terrible tearing in that game and the terrible input leg that for whatever

874
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:08,279
reason was is present in that particular source-based game um and and I just

875
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:14,680
couldn't play with vsync on because the delay was so substantial gsync means the

876
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:19,440
leg goes away and and and NVIDIA doesn't seem to be talking about that in in the

877
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:24,160
in the right way do you see that as a major benefit or and are they missing

878
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:28,960
the boat here no so I agree with you that's something actually I wish I had

879
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:33,039
more time to to deal with um so I was I

880
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:36,000
was at some other meetings um when the

881
01:02:33,039 --> 01:02:40,200
g-sync monitor arrived and I got back basically I don't know Sunday morning

882
01:02:38,279 --> 01:02:42,799
and you know then I killed the first day and a half trying to figure out what was

883
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:48,520
wrong with the thing and then that left me with you know basically like two days to to deal with all this so I didn't get

884
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:53,799
to go in depth into input lag um but I know that's that's a big component um I

885
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:58,480
think it's a question of you know which end do you attack right I think the the

886
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:01,880
the cell they have here with the hey this makes everything smoother a bit I

887
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:06,319
think that's a very experiential cell that that applies to a very wide

888
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:08,039
audience or very broad audience I think

889
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:12,160
and and I think a lot of what NVIDIA's been doing has been trying to go after

890
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:15,920
that you know almost the console gamer right the person who doesn't really know

891
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:19,839
or understand what's going on um and and you know they're not playing

892
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:24,480
competitively but but you know they're going after

893
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:29,240
that market and and I think um I think you know reducing input lag is

894
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:35,279
a definite Advantage um but I I think like you said that that tailor to a a

895
01:03:31,079 --> 01:03:37,039
slightly smaller um Niche right one

896
01:03:35,279 --> 01:03:40,240
thing one analogy I liked using for gsync actually and like it's it's not

897
01:03:38,839 --> 01:03:45,520
perfect because Project Butter introduced vsync to Android um or that

898
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:50,119
like it used vsync so it's not perfect but what project butter did for the

899
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:54,279
Android side of things I see gsync doing for the PC side of things because

900
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,920
beforehand there was all these all these drawbacks and different things you could have

901
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,400
to make it faster but then it would look kind of gross it was just it was never

902
01:03:59,799 --> 01:04:04,799
very smooth and it was never perfect and project butter just launched them

903
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:10,440
forward in that direction yeah it was almost this intangible wow my phone just

904
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:15,720
feels well like butter and I mean gsync is it's yeah yeah butter for the PC so

905
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,480
you can't you can't actually really use it because because Project Butter

906
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,440
brought in vsync but I still like using it because of the general

907
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:30,240
idea so next topic is is Haswell e now

908
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:35,000
this particular this particular site that has the uh the Haswell e leaked

909
01:04:32,359 --> 01:04:40,039
specs um they've been known to be right once in a while and not necessarily

910
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,319
right all the time um so it's an nch.com

911
01:04:40,039 --> 01:04:47,559
we're going to head over no I'm just kidding uh so mean it's mean this is

912
01:04:45,279 --> 01:04:54,440
actually posted by digital nav on our Forum um and the original article is

913
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:57,880
from wccf Tech but have you had a look

914
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:59,559
at the sort of these leaked um rumored

915
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:05,200
specs and what are your thoughts on Haswell E versus what we have now which

916
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:10,359
is Ivy Bridge e do we need eight core on the desktop how important is this

917
01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:14,880
even um so yeah I I actually I didn't realize this this had leaked yet um so I

918
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:19,760
I I don't I didn't pay much attention to you know how accurate inaccurate it was

919
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:23,279
um they actually had uh Haswell eunning

920
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:25,960
in IDF um at IDF last year or oh crap

921
01:05:23,279 --> 01:05:29,799
this year still um they had a running just as a ddr4 demo um so so samples

922
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:39,720
have been out there so I wouldn't be surprised if you know people got wind of it um how important is this going to be

923
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:42,000
I the the the whole you know Sandy brid

924
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:45,799
e iy Bri e and looking at Haswell e that's just a really weird family of

925
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:49,520
parts to me what I what I want is something in between the two that I

926
01:05:47,279 --> 01:05:55,160
don't have to use like a weird socket to get to um right and I think we might get

927
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:59,559
that with you know it sounds like they're going to do socketed Broadwell

928
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:02,640
and and bring Crystal well on board but I'm guessing they won't you know they

929
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:06,400
won't improve Crystal well at all it'll still be the same thing we have today um

930
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:10,599
but I I I don't know that I'm more interested in that personally um do we

931
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:14,960
need eight cores on the desktop yeah if you're doing like a lot of like really

932
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:19,359
really heavy professional video work I can see that being very very exciting um

933
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:24,520
and and you know I'd be fine with it if it weren't out of sync with the rest of

934
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:28,920
the desktop stuff right I don't like this whole yeah you can get something

935
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:32,559
that's you know a little better but it's a year out of phase with everything else

936
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:36,799
like I don't you've got you've got smart response here you've got you know that

937
01:06:35,279 --> 01:06:40,640
you've got quick Sync here but you've got more cores there and more RAM there

938
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:44,279
this fragmentation or the segmentation or whatever you want to call it um

939
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:48,119
really bothers me and I guess that's pretty much what you're alluding to

940
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:52,599
right now yeah I don't I don't I'm just not a fan of it like it's it's uh you

941
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:55,400
know it is what it is like you can't it's I mean because this is effectively

942
01:06:53,799 --> 01:07:01,520
a server part and and they're just kind of making a a desktop version of it um

943
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:05,920
so it's it's nice like it'll obviously it'll improve over IU bridy um you know

944
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:12,240
we already know what Haswell can do in terms of a Pere IPC Improvement um so

945
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:16,680
overing will be mediocre you know all these things we know already yeah it I

946
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:23,839
mean it'll be a better platform at least um uh which will be nice like Cu uh you

947
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:30,319
know x79 is kind of old now um so it'll it'll at least take care of that um SATA

948
01:07:27,279 --> 01:07:32,119
SATA three ports yes finally yeah I I'm

949
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:35,640
just not a fan of the trade-off like I I don't for me I would I would wait for

950
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,599
Broadwell desktop it'll be cheaper and and likely be close enough um although

951
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:45,480
you know eight cores is nice I won't I won't won't hate on that too much fair

952
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:48,279
enough all right well I think that's uh I think that's pretty much all the time

953
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:53,039
we have I don't want to keep you too long I think we kept you 10 minutes over

954
01:07:50,119 --> 01:07:56,039
time as it is but uh maybe just if you want to give the oh my goodness I

955
01:07:54,559 --> 01:08:00,520
realize we don't have our thing up there anymore um if you want to give the uh

956
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:03,799
the peeps a way to find you if they're interested in whether it's your written

957
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,520
work or your Twitter or whatever else uh we'd love to at least drive a few more

958
01:08:05,799 --> 01:08:11,079
followers your way if people enjoyed your presence on the show and I

959
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:14,359
certainly did I think that the the viewers have been teasing me in the

960
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:18,799
twitch chat the entire time for fangirling but I don't care I'm proud of

961
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:24,880
it so just go ahead and let them know where they can find you okay cool yeah

962
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:27,839
no thanks for having me um you can find

963
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:35,480
uh me sometimes at anon.com that's and dte.com um or on Twitter which is Anon

964
01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:36,759
shimpy and D MPI um and yeah congrats

965
01:08:35,480 --> 01:08:40,920
again on everything man you you've been doing a good job and uh thanks for

966
01:08:38,839 --> 01:08:44,159
having me on thank you very much all right uh until I see you next I'll

967
01:08:42,679 --> 01:08:49,279
probably run into you at CES somewhere so I'll I'll come say hi yep I'll be

968
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:56,440
just completely demoralized and just tired and me too man yeah yep CES is

969
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:59,480
happening all right man no I've been booking all my meetings and like I'm

970
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:05,159
looking at my calendar and I'm just like how the hell am I going to get to all these places oh you don't like you can't

971
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,640
you just you're just eternally late like I'm already late to my first CES meeting

972
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:12,520
like that's just you just have to assume that that's the case you embrace the

973
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:17,279
lateness and and you know you'll you'll be okay NVIDIA is really mad at me cuz

974
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:22,000
I'm I think I'm missing their thing because uh really yeah I wasn't planning

975
01:09:19,480 --> 01:09:25,560
to be down at the show that early so when they sent out the save the date I

976
01:09:23,679 --> 01:09:29,359
just kind of I meant to send back an email that said I couldn't make it but

977
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:33,359
instead I was just like oh well I'm not going to be there so I guess I just

978
01:09:30,440 --> 01:09:37,600
won't RSVP when the time comes and at that time they hadn't really been

979
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:39,199
engaging with me as much yet either so I

980
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:43,279
just I really didn't think about it that much but at the Montreal event we kind

981
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:47,679
of syned up a little bit more and and sort of decided that we needed to do

982
01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:53,159
more together and then um so anyway in in the meantime having not thought about

983
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,920
that save the date I uh AMD asked me to

984
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:57,520
be at their thing and I kind of went oh well I'm not to be there and they said

985
01:09:56,159 --> 01:10:01,239
oh well don't worry about it we'll cover your extra hotel and we'll cover any

986
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:07,040
fees to change your flight or whatever else we really want you to be there and I kind of went oh okay well sure so now

987
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:11,360
NVIDIA reminds me about that thing and I'm like oh I'll be there but oh I'm

988
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:15,560
going to be at AMD's thing cuz they're covering my hotel I can't not be there

989
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:21,000
so that's that's real awkward they were like really we sent you a save the date

990
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:22,080
like weeks ago man I'm like ah I'm sorry

991
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:28,440
yeah that's not going to go over well they'll probably like heavy beaten or something yeah in Vegas I hope they at

992
01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:31,760
least use the bar of soap so that I'm not all bruised for the rest of the

993
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:38,600
week yeah they uh no they'll just they they'll toy with you emotionally it's

994
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:44,280
that's usually how it is they'll toy with you emotionally with a bar of

995
01:10:41,719 --> 01:10:48,159
soap or might involve soap and another I don't know anyway okay I'll talk to you

996
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:54,199
later man I'll see you at the show all right dude okay bye

997
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:58,159
bye all right so guys that was awfully fun at least for me cuz I'm such a fan

998
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:03,480
girl of Anan and I love everything he does so let's go ahead and move into our

999
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:09,320
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1000
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:14,000
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1001
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:18,560
Applause to Intel for having the foresight and the good taste to sponsor

1002
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:23,600
this tasteful show foresight and good taste yeah speaking of tasteful and bars

1003
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:28,080
of soap uh the Romans they have a game called Rome 2 Total War which didn't

1004
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:33,480
necessarily get the greatest critical reception right off the bat but for some

1005
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:38,000
reason I'm on their PR contacts like mailing list so every time a patch drops

1006
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:42,880
or every time there's a new DLC I'm getting emails about it so apparently

1007
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:47,880
they've fixed a lot of the stuff and even if it's not 100% fixed now it is

1008
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:51,480
definitely moving in the right direction they're working on the AI they're adding

1009
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:56,199
more campaign elements and all that good stuff so if nothing else if you were

1010
01:11:53,920 --> 01:12:01,239
planning to buy a core I 5 or core i7 fourth gen processor so basically um a

1011
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:06,280
4670k unlocked fourth gen processor so a 4670k or a 4770k then you might as well

1012
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:10,360
get your free copy of Rome 2 Total War from participating retailers so I know

1013
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:13,960
it's at New Egg I know it's at MC I know it's at Amazon those are the ones that

1014
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:19,000
I'm 100% aware of but there may be other ones as well and if you're building a PC

1015
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:22,639
for someone else who's one of the things I used to do all the time when I built

1016
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:26,960
PCS for people when I actually had any time at all in the universe um was I

1017
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:31,320
would make the deal I'll build your PC for you for free but I want your game

1018
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:35,000
coupons so even if you're not building a PC for yourself maybe try and figure out

1019
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:39,600
how to scoop a free copy by having them buy their their their processor from a

1020
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:43,960
qualifying retailer so there you go guys our next one is uh oh apparently we just

1021
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,520
dropped a bunch of frames like all of a sudden we've been uh we've been fairly

1022
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:51,920
consistently dropping frames we're still live though sweet all right our other

1023
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:55,880
sponsor today where is my lower third for Hotpot

1024
01:12:53,440 --> 01:13:00,520
sh oh I don't think we run a hotspot Shields you know what the stream was

1025
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:03,400
going so smoothly it was going really well I asked you right before we went

1026
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:09,639
live too Hotspot Shield so Hotspot Shield is

1027
01:13:06,639 --> 01:13:11,960
the easyvpn solution that I actually had

1028
01:13:09,639 --> 01:13:16,080
to use in order to what's up oh I guess I can take these off that I had to use

1029
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:19,719
in order to get my Google Glass CU I had to pretend I was from the United States

1030
01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:23,760
what a VPN does for those of you who aren't familiar although I'm sure most of you are because you're all regular

1031
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:27,520
Watchers of the show and you always watch us every Friday right you know

1032
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:34,840
nothing else to do on a Friday evening Lord knows we don't have anything better to do tonight um so I had to use Hotspot

1033
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:38,800
Shield VPN in order to fake where I was located I had to pretend I was in the US

1034
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:42,800
and Hotspot Shield does that just fine this is great for useful things like um

1035
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:46,199
buying things that are only available in the US it's great for things like

1036
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:50,639
accessing services that are only available in the US such as us Netflix

1037
01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:55,320
if you happen to not be in America and you want to watch all the latest episodes of all the latest cool stuff um

1038
01:13:53,920 --> 01:14:00,120
as well as many other online video streaming services it's great for that it's great for protecting your identity

1039
01:13:58,199 --> 01:14:03,120
and your location that which people can find out quite easily using your IP

1040
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:08,679
address I mean it's a little bit tougher to find out your identity but your location certainly uh using your IP

1041
01:14:06,679 --> 01:14:13,080
address if you go through a VPN service such as Hotpot shield and it works on

1042
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:15,800
your PC on your mobile devices and I

1043
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:20,800
guess well PC and mobile devices right yeah yay hot Shield so you can get 20%

1044
01:14:18,639 --> 01:14:24,639
off Elite prices by using Code Linus on your very first purchase so go ahead and

1045
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:28,560
check that out guys it is definitely better than oh that's interesting

1046
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:31,920
apparently someone says do not use Hotspot Shield they make it extremely

1047
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:36,920
difficult to cancel a subscription will still charge you after you cancel it that's from dangerous person okay well

1048
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:41,360
one thing that I can respond to that with is if you post a problem with

1049
01:14:39,239 --> 01:14:45,520
Hotspot Shield on the Hotspot Shield thread on lineus Tech tips Forum they

1050
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:50,840
have people that will take care of that for you right away so we actually get

1051
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:52,440
special service for our for members from

1052
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:58,199
an escalation point that is above the regular customer service so

1053
01:14:55,239 --> 01:15:03,639
yay definitely check them out um one thing is wearing a team ocz shirt like

1054
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:08,520
is that is that in morning is is this like a sign of like I I miss you no it's

1055
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:11,719
just a nice shirt it's um what is it so it has nothing to it's American Apparel

1056
01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:16,400
oh yeah there you go swag shirts from American Apparel I know they're awesome

1057
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:20,520
so it's just like and I don't know it's so subtle like I bet no one even noticed

1058
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:23,840
I was wearing an ocz shirts they did oh did they really oh I'm surprised it's

1059
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:29,800
just it's just funny because of the recent like purchase and bankruptcy what

1060
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:31,960
not thing that was going on lamb Bob

1061
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:35,040
Dole says don't listen to dangerous person he called me a exploitive

1062
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:38,920
exploitive explo okay well we're not trying to

1063
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:42,360
discredit the guy you might be you know might have had a bad experience I'm just

1064
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,480
saying that you can get special service if you go through the lus tech tips

1065
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:49,159
Forum which is Awesome by the way before we move on I want to quickly go through

1066
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:53,320
my my favorite moments of the Anand Linus meeting version two really that's

1067
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:59,320
how you're going to be about this wow I think that was the most glorious

1068
01:15:56,679 --> 01:16:03,960
fantastic incredibly shiny intro we've ever had for anyone ever which was the

1069
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:09,520
like I love you please don't run away because I love you so much intro which

1070
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:11,440
was amazing um I don't think you've ever

1071
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:16,080
asked someone if you could interrupt them before and then after doing I

1072
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:20,920
usually just talk over them yep and then after that you then interrupted him but

1073
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:25,480
paused for a second you're like oh I'm sorry like is this okay and then he said

1074
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:28,880
yes and then you kept going which was fantastic and then later on you went to

1075
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:33,679
go interrupt him but then stopped yourself and said oh I want to bring

1076
01:16:31,159 --> 01:16:38,080
this up later but but but you can keep going it's okay and then Drew back and I

1077
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:43,400
I thought that was just fantastic and then once it was over even though it had

1078
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:47,280
gone over time uhhuh you made it

1079
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:49,920
continue which was just it just

1080
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:54,040
beautiful I wish I still had do we still have the footage I don't know I'm

1081
01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:57,120
actually not sure I don't know what they did with it they hit it okay yeah if we

1082
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,000
still have the footage I might leak some of it on the after party tonight but I'm

1083
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:05,600
not sure if we still have the footage wow that's how you're going to be about this oh I forgot we have some other

1084
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:10,880
sponsor messages we talked about our CES sponsors last week so uh NC is our gold

1085
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:14,600
sponsor basically they're paying the bulk of what it costs for us to be at

1086
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:18,199
CES and bring you guys the awesome content that we're going to bring you

1087
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:22,840
guys from there our second sponsor is Corsair so they're one of our two silver

1088
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:26,199
sponsors and then our third sponsor is confirmed now it's funny because last

1089
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:31,199
week on the show when I was like yeah it'll probably be WD they had not

1090
01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:35,560
confirmed anything they basically hadn't replied to my

1091
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:40,320
email so I got on the phone with them this week and I was like so um I haven't

1092
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,840
like sent out proposals to anyone else CU I was really hoping you guys would

1093
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:48,120
take it and they're just like oh yeah okay I guess so sure yeah yeah we'll

1094
01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:52,960
we'll take it we'll take it so I also have something pretty exciting to tell

1095
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:59,639
you guys about wd's present at the show present at the show they are doing a wd

1096
01:17:55,679 --> 01:18:02,040
fan night which you can only get to if

1097
01:17:59,639 --> 01:18:06,239
you hear about it through someone that they're affiliated with basically this

1098
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:11,320
isn't just on the WD website okay you have to hear about it somewhere spaces

1099
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:14,800
will fill up if you're planning to be at CES if you're planning so if you're

1100
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:22,480
going to be down in Las Vegas at the beginning of January you can register at

1101
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:25,239
wpro WD Fen night and uh there's going

1102
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:28,320
to be uh creative professional such as renowned Sports Illustrated photographer

1103
01:18:26,679 --> 01:18:34,840
Peter Reed Miller professional Gamers Scara and O from Team dignitas artist

1104
01:18:32,199 --> 01:18:39,800
drew broy musician Mike I Paris from the band o or or I don't even know who any

1105
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:44,120
of these people are I'm so I I live on like another planet where all that

1106
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:47,960
exists is work and my baby he he's always like oh why do you think I'm like

1107
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:52,360
Out Of Tune with society and stuff and then if you go watch and if you go back

1108
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:59,440
and watch the Omni video when he's like Converse con no one seen Converse before

1109
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:02,760
because I don't leave my house okay or

1110
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:04,960
this place anyway guys check it out WD

1111
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:08,679
fan night I I'm pretty sure I'll be there I think it's on my calendar that's

1112
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:13,239
Tuesday January 7th let me check my calendar so guys please only sign up if

1113
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:18,199
you're actually going to be in Vegas during that time and you're actually planning to go there so um you know you

1114
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:25,199
don't want to take away a spot from someone else who could otherwise be there uh but yes I will be there I will

1115
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:30,120
be there on WD fan appreciation night so that's going to be pretty cool okay so I

1116
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:35,600
think without further Ado I don't have any topics to further Ado right now cuz

1117
01:19:32,239 --> 01:19:37,320
for some reason in my awe of Anan while

1118
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,719
he was on the show I closed my topics doc so go ahead and find our next one

1119
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:46,040
here splashed out the topic St somehow either way we can do uh consumer versus

1120
01:19:43,719 --> 01:19:50,920
Enterprise hard drive reliability so I believe the article was such BS

1121
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:57,520
unfortunately I mean it would have been great if it was real so well it's

1122
01:19:55,199 --> 01:20:01,120
it's real it's just not scientifically valid in any way so this was tweeted to

1123
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:07,639
me by Austin topnotch PC law guys to be clear

1124
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:10,719
tweeting something at me is not the best way to get an article featured on the

1125
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:14,880
show please post in the new section of lus tech tips Forum um but sometimes I

1126
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:19,520
do happen to see things on Twitter and they do make their way into the dock so

1127
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:25,120
back Blaze finds Enterprise drives fail more often than consumer hard drives is

1128
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:27,639
the extremely incendiary

1129
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:31,520
top or um headline of this article so I'll let you tear it apart I think

1130
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:34,080
they're just mad to be completely honest I'm assuming that's where this coming

1131
01:20:32,679 --> 01:20:37,960
from they're like oh why are so many failing let's rip them apart because

1132
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:41,760
they they have to understand that the way they did this was not entirely true

1133
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:46,560
and like a lot of the quotes that are in this are directly from back black

1134
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:49,040
Blaze's back Blaze's blog that's a lot

1135
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:53,719
of bees back Blaze blog um like it's directly in there where it's like well

1136
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:57,679
do you think reliability of these make any sense no like it's all it's all the

1137
01:20:55,719 --> 01:21:05,400
sensationalized part is in back Blaze's blog so that was kind of interesting the

1138
01:20:59,719 --> 01:21:07,960
sample size is like not okay there's 368

1139
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:16,920
Enterprise drives and there's 14,719 consumer drives um where is it oh

1140
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:20,159
crap where was the failure rates I thought you put it in the dock I thought

1141
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:25,080
I did too so apparently 17 Enterprise drives failed over two years and 613

1142
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:29,639
consumer drives failed then they broke it down to percentages and found that

1143
01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:34,040
4.6% of the Enterprise drives failed while 4.2% of the consumer drives failed

1144
01:21:32,639 --> 01:21:38,440
but there's a big problem with that which you outlined here perfectly which

1145
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:43,199
is where if one Enterprise one less Enterprise Drive failed they were almost

1146
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:49,480
equated for percentages and if two less failed it was like a chunk better like

1147
01:21:45,639 --> 01:21:51,199
two. 2% better which is like no to be

1148
01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:55,520
able to do an actual study like this you need one the sample sizes need to be the

1149
01:21:53,159 --> 01:21:58,280
same freaking side and two they weren't tested in the same environments yes they

1150
01:21:57,239 --> 01:22:02,760
were tested in very different environments so the Enterprise basically

1151
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:06,320
the only real conclusion that we can take away from this because the

1152
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:11,480
Enterprise drives were tested in a much heavier workload than the Consumer grade

1153
01:22:08,639 --> 01:22:15,639
drives so all we can take away from this is that Enterprise drives when being

1154
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:21,320
used in their intended workload which is much heavier might fail about the same

1155
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:24,880
as consumer grade drives when used in a lighter workload which is like what hard

1156
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:29,199
drive manufacturer wouldn't freaking told to that there there was even some

1157
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:35,159
more wonky stuff too because the Enterprise drives had nicer more padded

1158
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:39,280
enclosures but not by much but then were worked a lot harder then the consumer

1159
01:22:37,239 --> 01:22:43,120
drives had not as good enclosures that had a little bit more vibration but then

1160
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:47,360
weren't worked as much so like there's even more weird variables that you're

1161
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:51,520
throwing so many variables yeah so one thing one good takeaway from this in my

1162
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:55,719
mind is that holy crap consumer drives don't fail that much yeah really cool

1163
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:59,159
cuz we use super drives in our server yep we use a lot of refurbished ones no

1164
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:03,440
no there are no refurbs in the server right now okay that's good Although our

1165
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:09,000
storage expansion upgrade that's coming soon so the the working drive for 4K

1166
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:13,600
footage is probably going to be refurb drives but it's a working drive but

1167
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:15,440
it'll be raid 10 okay so it's it's not

1168
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:19,679
going to be reliant on you know absolutely no drives can fail OMG so I'm

1169
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:25,360
I'm going to throw a RAID 10 in there of 3 terab referb drives cool but yeah like

1170
01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:26,719
this article was is no not really right

1171
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:31,040
in my opinion but it's still an interesting thing to look at and like

1172
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:34,600
take the percentages not really 100% to heart but you can look at it still and

1173
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:37,960
just I I don't know maybe be a little bit more confident in your consumer

1174
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:42,440
drive and just make sure that it has good padding you're probably good to go

1175
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:47,360
all right so this one apparently I screwed up and uh let me just make sure

1176
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:52,239
that there's nothing showing on my screen right now that's going to be a

1177
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:55,920
problem I don't think so does my hangouts matter I can sign out right it

1178
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:59,560
shows the yeah okay there we go let's hold on

1179
01:23:57,480 --> 01:24:04,600
let's scroll down should be fine yep there's probably going to be

1180
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:08,639
something I don't see anything okay so here we go all right so screen share

1181
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:12,400
time guys this was a PM someone sent me please post in the news section of the

1182
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:18,440
Forum please um anyway don't go up here's a panel some so this is on the

1183
01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:20,000
subject of the Dell 4K 28 in monitor

1184
01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:25,199
that's actually less expensive than the 4k 24in monitor but uses a TN panel so

1185
01:24:23,639 --> 01:24:30,159
someone uh I don't even remember who it was cuz they didn't post for so um so

1186
01:24:27,679 --> 01:24:34,159
someone said here's a panel someone on G found it seems to match up pretty well

1187
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:39,600
with what we know about the 28in monitor Dell's releasing for under $1,000 it is

1188
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:44,719
a TN panel but it seems to be a really good TN panel so it has wide color gamut

1189
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:49,800
10 bit color depth although I've seen 6-bit TN panels that are definitely not

1190
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:53,400
as good as 6bit IPS panels so let's be real clear more bits is not necessarily

1191
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:58,199
the most important thing in the world 60 HZ refresh rate which make sense and 80°

1192
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:03,119
viewing angle it would make sense for it to be a TN panel since it's only $1,000

1193
01:25:00,440 --> 01:25:10,280
but it might not be that bad after all so there it is guys the n280 dj-

1194
01:25:07,159 --> 01:25:13,719
l30 and the specs look like they are

1195
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:17,440
might be it potentially not that bad oh

1196
01:25:13,719 --> 01:25:19,199
sorry sorry sorry I what the you somehow

1197
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:24,960
oh wow what have I done okay hold on guys bear with me for a second here uh

1198
01:25:22,119 --> 01:25:29,920
where is it okay wow not sure what happened there okay anyway we're back

1199
01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:37,560
um so to be clear good TN panels exist they're still

1200
01:25:34,679 --> 01:25:40,280
not the one uses a TN panel yeah the viewing angles are excellent the color

1201
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:45,600
reproduction is excellent so they do exist they are

1202
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:50,159
slower than the overdriven TN panels that we find in products like that isus

1203
01:25:47,480 --> 01:25:55,480
monitor that both Anan and I agree which of course fills me with much much

1204
01:25:52,520 --> 01:26:00,679
wonderment uh both agree isn't very good because it's overdriven to refresh 144

1205
01:25:58,719 --> 01:26:04,199
times a second and still give you a crystal clear image that means they just

1206
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:10,000
can't do as much with the quality of that image so a good TN panel might not

1207
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:13,480
necessarily be as optimal for gaming it might not be as fast but the viewing

1208
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:17,600
angles and the color reproduction might actually be okay so I'm pretty excited

1209
01:26:15,719 --> 01:26:23,320
to see what Dell has up their sleeve with this 28 in 4k monitor cuz in my

1210
01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:26,080
mind 24 may actually be a touch too

1211
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:32,080
small to even just 54k I mean a 2560 X 1440 24 in that's not bad it be hard to

1212
01:26:29,679 --> 01:26:36,840
pick out the individual pixels huh I'm not sure well I'll have to like compare

1213
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:41,080
them yeah I guess to be honest i' have I'd have to see them close up all right

1214
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:45,920
we're digging into my email again for do you have another topic do you want to do maybe a rapid fire topic while I dig

1215
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:50,639
this up jump onto one if you give me one second some of the rapid fire topics got

1216
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:54,960
all messed up but we can jump into the Xbox one thing ah yes cuz this is

1217
01:26:53,159 --> 01:26:59,679
hilarious so so trolled so apparently someone released

1218
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:04,560
an image which we can maybe hopefully get on screen here soon which it looks

1219
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:10,400
looks fairly official like it's not super well done but it's okay um it says

1220
01:27:07,159 --> 01:27:12,280
Xbox 360 backwards compatibility unlock

1221
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:17,080
by default Xbox 360 backwards compatibility is disabled on Xbox One to

1222
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:21,400
unlock it follow these steps one go to the system menu two press left button

1223
01:27:19,719 --> 01:27:26,360
right button left trigger right trigger I know but we might be doing podcast

1224
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:28,360
soon oh right in order to in order in

1225
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:34,199
order quickly select the developer console check the enable devkit box

1226
01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:38,840
change sandbox ID to free zone. reboot which is where you should start thinking

1227
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:41,040
this is kind of bull crap um six select

1228
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:45,159
reset Home console and then it says Xbox 360 games will now be playable on your

1229
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:48,320
console the problem is it will just boot loop infinitely because you put it into

1230
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:52,520
reboot mode where it will just continuously reboot and will never

1231
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:57,119
actually really do anything essentially breaking your Xbox One breaking your box

1232
01:27:54,560 --> 01:28:00,719
one but wait it gets better folks because that's not all from this week we

1233
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:05,080
also have troll number two which is even

1234
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:10,679
better in my opinion actually even better did you know. tumblr.com

1235
01:28:08,679 --> 01:28:14,679
any iPhone can be charged in the microwave oven 15 to 25 times faster

1236
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:17,800
than the charger that came with it try it now plug your cable into the iPhone

1237
01:28:16,679 --> 01:28:21,520
put your iPhone in the center of the oven and coil the cable around it step

1238
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:26,119
three set the timer in the oven for 10 to 20 seconds step four you now have a

1239
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:29,280
char charge iPhone this works because microwaves use the same Principle as

1240
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:32,679
wireless charging pads by rearranging the electrons in your phone's battery to

1241
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:37,800
gather at the negative terminal remember to leave your cable plugged

1242
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:40,719
in so there are some there are some

1243
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:47,280
Yahoo answers posts with folks being like hey I um I tried it is there any

1244
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:49,360
way I can uh fix it now and the answer

1245
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:55,320
is no unfortunately love how the best ansers the best answer on that one's

1246
01:28:51,119 --> 01:28:55,320
like dude you Zapped your phone

1247
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:02,880
ah like yeah no you you you screwed up on that one not not going to work out

1248
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:06,639
for you at all yeah that is that is a crying shame right there all right so

1249
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:12,159
I'm ready with this next uh this next article that's in my email supposedly um

1250
01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:15,480
no no I am not hold on I'll be ready in a second though I'm almost ready okay

1251
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:19,280
I'm almost ready should I try and grab something Apple Smartwatch is rumored to

1252
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:23,360
be coming in October 2014 and will apparently support wireless

1253
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:27,000
charging I guess I kind of said the whole thing I was just going to say is

1254
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:30,040
that is that is that the whole topic that's the whole topic is there more

1255
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:35,719
okay what was the original Source again I can't remember for the Apple Smartwatch yeah they've they have been

1256
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:40,520
right about stuff in the past that was our Forum they've also been wrong about

1257
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:48,960
stuff in the past so the so the original poster was jati Joe petite Joe peti yeah

1258
01:29:46,679 --> 01:29:52,920
and the source is tweakers.net all right so let's go ahead and hop over to

1259
01:29:50,440 --> 01:29:57,840
Linus's screen where Samsung sent me a pretty awesome email about their rapid

1260
01:29:55,480 --> 01:30:02,560
technology being available on 840 Pro ssds now so if you already have an 840

1261
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:09,280
Pro and the 840 Evo came out and you were like Samsung hey hey Samsung hey

1262
01:30:07,480 --> 01:30:14,360
what what's going on why don't I have rapid technology cuz rapid is cool what

1263
01:30:11,639 --> 01:30:17,679
is this rapid allows you to use your RAM to accelerate your storage subsystem it

1264
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:22,040
can use up to a gig of your RAM at a time and it's awesome and it works but

1265
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:26,159
it was only available on Samsung your consumer grade drive not your PR grade

1266
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:31,520
Drive what is this so it's now available for existing 840 Pro owners or anyone

1267
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:33,600
who buys that SSD in the future and

1268
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:37,800
they've also enabled some new trusted Computing thing on the 840 Evo which I'm

1269
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:43,440
sure is important but I'm not as interested in that as raw performance

1270
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:47,040
and finally they have a one terabyte

1271
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:48,920
Matata SSD now so it's an 840 Evo

1272
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:53,320
meaning you have support for Rapid meaning you have support for their you

1273
01:30:51,119 --> 01:30:59,360
know awesome data migration utility and all that great stuff and you have one

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terte of storage in a notebook pretty sick which is just balling my favorite

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part about m ssds is like they're like

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that big yeah I know they're tin they have so much ridiculous amounts of

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storage on them I know it's amazing it's it's kind of like those uh those sandis

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USB drives that we had I showed you those things right where it's like

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literally the size of the connector like I put it in I'm like how am I supposed to get this out of the port and it's

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like 64 gigs it's like where did you where did you put that and we have SD

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cards now from uh Kings oh no we have a micro SD from SanDisk as well that is 64

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gigs and can do like 45 megabytes per second rights and like 90 Megs per

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second reads it's ridiculous flash storage it's not the end of development

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and uh improvements there I know we're dropping a lot of frames guys there's not a whole lot we can do it right now

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I've been talking to the twitch chat about all the different problems and what not that are going on with the

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frames we're good I think we'll make it through so I think we covered all of our

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main topics for this week do we have anything left we have some stuff but

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this is hilarious oh yeah yeah this is actually slightly older news guys but

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check this out this is from holy ca. alltop

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do.com 140,000 VHS tapes from

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1977 to 2012 were found in storage all

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right so basically Miz Stokes this lady

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died at age 83 and at some point in

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1977 she decided that she was going to tape all the news

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ever so she planned her life around it she would feed six-hour tapes into the

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news channel recorders late at night and

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then she'd wake up early the next day to change them or conscript family members

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to do it if she wasn't home she'd cut short meals at restaurants to rush home

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before tapes ended and when she got too old to keep up she trained a younger

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helper named Frank to run the various recording equipment so it is

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potentially the most

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uh the most complete news recording archive in

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existence and it's on 140,000 VHS tapes

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and who's going to deal with

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that I'd have to imagine it has to end up somewhere you can't just throw all

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01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:22,719
that history away I know but like who's that's amazing I know but who's going to

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01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:24,280
do it I don't know like and okay one

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thing that I don't know can INSP people to do it if he can build

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01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:32,719
a Nikolai Tesla Museum then maybe he can

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do this maybe meal if you're watching which I know you aren't he's not I know

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01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:43,600
way too cool for us I love the oatmeal okay you got an N to watch if we

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01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:46,520
can get the oatmeal on this show then

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during his entire guest segment I will like I'll go behind the couch I will

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take my underwear off and I will wear them on my head for the entire guest

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01:33:52,199 --> 01:33:57,360
segment okay if someone can convince the

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oatmeal to come and be on our show for half an hour because I would fan girl

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01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:05,800
out so hard God would you fan girl out as hard as you do with an end he hasn't

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had as much of an impact on the direction of my life as an end um but I

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think he's awesome well no he has know I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today

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01:34:13,639 --> 01:34:21,000
if I know you know what screw you he hasn't had this profound impact on my

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01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:26,480
life he hasn't driven me to do great things in other news the Nexus 5 had has

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had a silent done talking about the last oh we're done talking about it now the

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next is five this was posted by Joe petite J petite I don't know man jaati

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on the Forum has had a silent Hardware revision that actually addresses one of

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my major complaints about that well two of my major complaints about the device number one is that they have expanded

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the speaker grills see they're bigger now so more sound in theory number two

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is they have updated the buttons to be harder to press and more clicky a little

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01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:57,679
bit more tactile this might have seemed like a petty complaint and I think some

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01:34:55,719 --> 01:35:01,800
people didn't like this in my Nexus 5 review but to me having buttons

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01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:05,360
positioned so that when you go to press one of them you accidentally press the

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01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:08,239
one that is opposed to it on the other side of the phone is a big usability

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01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:12,920
problem accidentally changing your volume all the time or whatever else is a problem I don't like that on the HTC1

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01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:18,440
as well that's one of my major complaints on this phone because the lock is up here the volume is here so

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01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:22,639
the way a right-handed person might hold the phone to unlock it is like this and

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01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:25,320
you often match Mash that volume button and they're not they don't stick out far

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01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:31,000
enough and they're not hard enough to press for you to really feel it so I thought that was a valid complaint and I

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01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:35,000
was right because they fixed it either way how would you feel if you were an

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01:35:32,239 --> 01:35:38,199
Nexus 5 owner uh actually kind of jipped kind of owned because if I if I like is

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01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:44,119
actually a bad word you may not even know that no yeah cuz it it refers to

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01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:45,639
gypsies pretty much there's an insane

1341
01:35:44,119 --> 01:35:48,880
amount of words that are actually terrible and people use them every day

1342
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:52,679
you know that's referring to someone as a young buck is actually disrespectful

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01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:56,920
as well it's it's uh it was like an insult for Native Amer Americans if I

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01:35:54,239 --> 01:36:01,600
recall correctly someone said that in my like grade 10 social studies class and

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01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:06,280
the teacher like flipped out and she had no idea she was like what and she's like

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01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:10,320
the nicest girl in the world like one of those just like super nice girl why she

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01:36:07,719 --> 01:36:13,639
flip out she obviously didn't know I he was kind of an interesting guy is crazy

1348
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:17,000
yeah all right I'm not going to talk about former teachers on the show they

1349
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:22,360
might be watching they probably aren't I would I like a lot of my former teachers

1350
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:25,199
Mr Thompson Mr first Mr trle probably none of them are watching at all of them

1351
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:31,800
are watching at all but that would be awesome isn't it sad that they don't know how famous you are now actually

1352
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:34,520
some of them do do they oh cool so the

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01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:38,639
Pirate Bay is going to be making domain names irrelevant they've actually

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01:36:36,239 --> 01:36:44,239
switched domain names twice in a matter of days and their new system is going to

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01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:49,960
allow them to get around domain takedowns by um well implementing The

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01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:54,920
Pirate Bay within its own web browser whoa I didn't read this topic I

1357
01:36:53,679 --> 01:37:00,159
just assumed they had some other thing going on that's nope crazy so this was

1358
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:03,920
posted by guns cool on the Forum and uh the original article is from techy

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01:37:23,639 --> 01:37:30,760
but the Pirate Bay um has revealed this switch to Pirate bay. p is a temporary

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01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:36,199
switch the team is working on a bit torrent powered browser that will enable

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users to store and share files with other users without requiring a central

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01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:46,000
hosting thereby eliminating the need for domain name completely so the actual

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01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:49,679
sharing of tracker information will be done peer-to-peer in much the same way

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01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:55,119
that the file sharing is already done peer-to-peer so there will be no one to

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01:37:52,159 --> 01:38:01,040
go after in theory could they just use like a lightly modified version of

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Firefox so quote from the article is once that is available all links and

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sites will be accessible through a perfectly legal piece of browser

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01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:13,800
software and the rest of it will be P2P with no Central Point to attack via the

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01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:17,159
legal system I think I don't know if they're going to but I think they could

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just lightly modify the open source code for Firefox and just like easily have

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01:38:20,239 --> 01:38:27,320
this highly up updated really well performing browser

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01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:28,520
so isn't that fascinating that's smart I

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like they might be making their own from the ground up I have no idea I haven't read this um article unfortunately

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01:38:32,719 --> 01:38:36,880
although I'm like super interested now and I'm totally going to read it I added

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01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:40,840
this at the last minute I actually didn't tell him um I was just posting

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01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:45,520
links on my phone I know I saw that coming in I was just focused on editing

1377
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:49,560
the other the uh the other video um so that's fascinating hey that's super

1378
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:53,480
crazy score one for the Pirates potentially here like how do you get

1379
01:38:51,599 --> 01:38:57,719
around that because yeah it could just just be like a button on the browser

1380
01:38:55,760 --> 01:39:02,239
that is just automatically updated and directed to the site or or like there's

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01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:05,400
so many or it doesn't even have to be a website at that point the browser could

1382
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:10,199
just directly interface with it automatically y like holy crap yeah

1383
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:15,239
that's good because there's there's stuff like this there's there's been like browsing applications like views I

1384
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:21,880
guess you could technically say but it still interfaces with websites that actually manage everything it's just a

1385
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:26,679
browser that accesses those websites this way it would be oh man yeah I know

1386
01:39:25,199 --> 01:39:33,760
it's like mine huge deal they just won the game

1387
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:36,880
the game yeah the game for now the game

1388
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:38,599
I'm trolling people oh all right all

1389
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:42,800
right well that's it guys thank you so much for watching The W show I hope you

1390
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:46,599
enjoyed it uh wow we we're ending somewhat on time today and we started on

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01:39:45,159 --> 01:39:50,119
time yeah besides the dropped frames which

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01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:56,440
hopefully we'll have addressed next week with our new fiber optic Uplink yeah

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01:39:54,000 --> 01:40:01,679
yeah super stoked for that that's going to be awesome so take care guys thank

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01:39:59,679 --> 01:40:05,040
you again for watching and what do I usually say at the end of the show I

1395
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:09,199
think it changes all the time actually does it change all the time and then we usually end up talking and then just

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01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:13,159
randomly ending the broadcast big thanks for our sponsors Hotspot Shield and

1397
01:40:10,599 --> 01:40:18,400
Intel and our CES sponsors who are n c Corsair and Western Digital how how long

1398
01:40:15,599 --> 01:40:22,679
it someone says unsubbed unfollowed well sorry man is it cuz I forgot what to say

1399
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:25,840
at the end how how long until CES is it a month less than a month like yeah it's

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01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:32,199
coming up on like the third yeah it's like 3 weeks we're going to die oh my

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01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:34,320
God peace out everyone okay bye oh what

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01:40:32,199 --> 01:40:40,480
the oh what come on oh that means that it's not

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01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:44,599
done is the volume even going to be right what what are you what are you

1404
01:40:42,119 --> 01:40:48,599
talking about I'm putting on our our intro thing oh the volume's not going to

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01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:53,760
be right can you just play the other scene I don't think is it in there no

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01:40:51,159 --> 01:40:58,000
you moved it no I moved it from this one I think we're done here okay