{"video_id":"HGHQ5R3NwrA","title":"Making the iPhone Perfect in 2 Minutes  - Unc0ver IOS 13.5 Jailbreak","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2021-05-05T14:53:29Z","duration_s":531,"segments":[{"start_s":0.32,"end_s":7.839,"text":"i've said this before even as an Android user there's no denying that iOS has got","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.279,"end_s":11.84,"text":"a lot going for it the issue for me is that no matter how many times i try to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.599,"end_s":17.6,"text":"switch to it though i always find a couple of tiny things that apple refuses","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":15.28,"end_s":21.68,"text":"to allow for whatever convoluted reason and it kind of ruins the experience for","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":19.439,"end_s":25.76,"text":"me like in the control center a menu meant to give you quick access to 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up and actually if you enjoy this kind of like uh hacking phone stuff","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":511.28,"end_s":518.959,"text":"maybe check out our video where we compared uh rooting an old Android phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":515.599,"end_s":520.56,"text":"versus buying a used iphone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":518.959,"end_s":526.48,"text":"people got mad about some aspects of that video but i still thought it was good","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":523.519,"end_s":532.16,"text":"not fair comparison we never said it was and we never like glorified Android","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":528.08,"end_s":532.16,"text":"rooting it's like kind of messy","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"i've said this before even as an Android user there's no denying that iOS has got a lot going for it the issue for me is that no matter how many times i try to switch to it though i always find a couple of tiny things that apple refuses to allow for whatever convoluted reason and it kind of ruins the experience for me like in the control center a menu meant to give you quick access to common settings you see the wi-fi and bluetooth toggles they don't even turn off their respective radios anymore the toggle just closes any active connections until apple deems that they should be turned back on and then how about the unremovable notification shade on the lock screen that requires you to swipe up every time you unlock the phone with face id instead of just dropping you on the home screen which is probably where you want to be it's little things like this that drive me up the wall so when i saw the epic new jailbreak released for iOS 13.5 with support for every iphone model that supports that version of iOS i figured it was finally time after all these years to take jailbreaking out for a spin speaking of spin spin open your wallet for a lot less with our sponsor ting why pay for things you don't need or even use ting wants to help you with that by getting you to pay for only the mobile data you use check it out at the link below to find out more going from now all the way back to the early days of iOS jailbreaking the main reason people did it was to add or modify functionality that either wasn't present in iOS or that apple didn't allow or want for example features like the control center touch gestures and dark mode already existed as jailbreak tweaks long before apple ever implemented them officially then there's the people who jailbroke their devices to remove carrier restrictions remember when you had to pay for mobile data tethering or to unlock a device so it could be used with a different carrier another huge reason people jailbreak are aesthetics and these kinds of mods are all over the place ranging from themes like viola which reskins your menus and icons to a beautified control center with tweaks like prism or even apple watch style status icons on the lock screen with a tweet called complications if you're like me and you prefer less rather than more there's simple ls which can remove all the clutter from your lock screen and then there's the taboo side of jailbreaking piracy many people jailbreak their devices to get paid apps or services for free or to cheat in mobile games now all this is super cool but jailbreaking has been on the decline for many years due to slow jailbreak releases for new os's instability and apple simply implementing many of the features that people originally jailbroke their devices to get however maybe because apple has been kind of sitting on their thumbs when it comes to iOS features for the last couple of years things have been picking up again with speedy stable and easy jailbreaks from the team behind the latest exploit uncover so how do you do it first you'll need a compatible device you can see the full list of tested devices over on uncover site but essentially every modern iphone is supported all the way from iOS 11 to 13.5 please note by the way guys as of the day we filmed this video apple released iOS 13.5.1 which patches this jailbreak if you're not already on 13.5 and you want to be you can still update by downloading the update file from the link in the description and then shift-clicking the update button in itunes note though that apple may stop signing this version at any time making it impossible to update to it later if you're already on iOS 13.5 do not update to 13.5.1 or you will lose your ability to jailbreak all right with that out of the way we're going to assume that you're jailbreaking from a Windows computer but if you're on mac the process is essentially the same so with the guidance from the uncover website and the links below you should be able to jailbreak without issue start by downloading itunes and icloud from apple's website if you have the microsoft store versions of them you're going to have to uninstall those grab the win32 versions and then give yourself one of these forever touching the microsoft store in the first place next head over to the uncover site and download and install alt server we're going to use this software to self sign and then side load both the alt store and the uncover jailbreak apps once it's installed plug in your iphone trust the pc that you're plugged into and select your device under install alt store in the alt server menu in your taskbar enter your apple id to authorize the install and within a few seconds you should see it on your iOS home screen now because this is what apple deems a self-signed app you'll need to navigate into the device settings and authorize the app before you can run it once it's running head over to the uncover jailbreak site on your phone and click the open an alt store button if you're prompted re-enter your apple id then alt store will install the uncover jailbreak app now you might notice there's an expiry date on the apps this is because you self-signed the apps with your own apple id and without an apple developer subscription the longest you can sign an app is for seven days don't worry though because the alt store guys thought of this so if you keep alt server running on your pc or mac the store app will actually phone home to your system when you're on the same network to renew those certifications if you do end up away from home for a while though it's possible you might not get the automatic renewal meaning that if your phone dies or is hard rebooted after that seven day period you might have to reflash the apps or go without a jailbreak for a few days all right disclaimer over now it's time to open up the uncover app and hit jailbreak it'll do some stuff and then prompt you for a reboot click ok and then once the device is booted again open uncover hit jailbreak again and it will reboot in a jailbroken state with a brand new app called cydia that's it your jailbroken cydia is what's known as a package manager kind of like the underwear on ltteststore.com it handles installing and updating any tweaks and themes that you want to install and it's kind of like the app store but for jailbreak stuff let's start with modding our device and fixing some of those issues that i've been having with iOS it's worth noting that while cydia ships with lots of default repositories many of the popular tweaks and themes are hosted on third-party repos like packx or spark dev so we're going to add those first as those hold the downloads for the tweaks that i wanted to add first i installed snowboard which is a theming engine which allows you to actually apply the viola theme that i mentioned earlier i then proceeded to install a bunch of other tweaks namely swipe selection which re-adds that keyboard swiping to navigate text thing that was removed when 3d touch died auto unlock x which allows us to skip the notification shade on unlock digital battery 13 to show the battery percentage in the status bar and prism to beautify and add haptic feedback to the iOS control center oh and since apple maps sucks the big one we changed the default to google maps with a tweet called maps opener and the crazy part is that that is just the tip of the iceberg if you have a grievance with iOS there is probably one of the hundreds of other super useful quality of life improving tweaks that are out there that is going to help you so we've included a link to a reddit post that lists a ton of them for your tinkering pleasure if you guys are looking for more apple content hey maybe check out our review of the latest macbook pro actually we're fast tracking this i don't know if that'll be out yet but whatever it's coming soon so subscribe if you're looking for our sponsor well then you can check out this segway ting does mobile phone service differently there's no contracts no overage fees and no other carrier tricks you just pay a fair price for the talk text and data that you use each month it's especially great if you're stuck at home and you're using your Wi-Fi more than usual ting gives you complete control over your cell phone account you can set alerts and caps for each device on your account to keep your usage in check and they've got nationwide lte coverage using t-mobile sprint and verizon almost any phone will work with ting from an ancient motorola razer in your basement to the latest iphone 11 series like this one so check your phone's compatibility at Linus.ting.com and get 25 credit when you sign up and actually if you enjoy this kind of like uh hacking phone stuff maybe check out our video where we compared uh rooting an old Android phone versus buying a used iphone people got mad about some aspects of that video but i still thought it was good not fair comparison we never said it was and we never like glorified Android rooting it's like kind of messy"}