on paper today's project is pretty much the simplest thing ever after many hours
of troubleshooting i've identified the problem with my vr gaming pc the
on-board usb ports are not compatible
with the five trackers that i'm using to enable full-body tracking when i'm
streaming vr now the solution to this on the surface
is very straightforward you need to just install a pci express usb card that uses
a different chipset and run the trackers off that unfortunately because it needs
to fit inside my tiny home theater console my vr gaming rig uses an itx
motherboard so i went out on the prowl for the smallest mini atx case that i
could find and this is it the sliger
cerberus now on the surface this project is super straightforward take a
basically working computer and transplant it from one case into another
with a different motherboard but with how much has gone wrong with all of
this so far what the why
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okay i misrepresented the ease of this project a little bit i am also going to
be adding water cooling to the rig and the reason is that this right here is
the rtx 2080 ti that was used for the uh
yes hydro dipping a graphics card project
in the process of hydro dipping it what happened was the pcb that handles fan
control was actually damaged or one of the connectors was loosened in some way
that makes the fan ramp up and then ramped down constantly it's super
annoying that is literally the only reason i'm going water cooling to quiet
down this now defective card this case is not really billed as a water cooling
focused product but i've seen enough builds from other users online that have
water cooling in them to suggest that it shouldn't be
too challenging front i o is already a bit of a hassle
for my setup just because these are coming out the top and i think this is
basically exactly the height of my media cabinet the cold hard truth is there's
no way around it because you can see here the motherboard is going to be basically
the entire height of the case all they've added that might be considered
extraneous is this fifth pci express slot which actually could come in handy
for me big time in the future if a motherboard arrives that has a pci
express 16x slot on the bottom because then i could put my graphics card right
down in the bottom of the case and that would give me three more expansion slots
that's a bigger factor for me than you might think because one of the other
things that i might want to add to the system in the future is a wireless card
for wireless vr so that's already two right there just for usb and wireless
crap this is my first time hands-on with this
case it's reasonably solid feeling but the construction is very basic pretty
much every piece of it is some kind of you know table cut
steel it's about it really easy to get it opened up so you
can start working in it though i opted for a few accessories there's a handle
kit in here we've got a handle bracket
sfx power supply adapter
oh no did Jake screw me over already he didn't
send me an sfxl power supply i'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt maybe
i don't need it anyway first order of business is to get
all the old hardware stripped out of my vr gaming rig this two terabyte hard
drive has got to go for sure i'm going to replace that with a high capacity
solid-state drive you probably assumed i have a lot of this stuff i don't
i actually love bottom mounted SSD
kind of wish i had another matching industrial fan for this system Jake sent
over nff12s i'm just not sure if they're going to have enough gusto 2080 ti and a
Radeon 3900x this project is frustrating for a couple
of reasons one is that it feels pretty stupid to have to upgrade a motherboard
because the onboard usb has a compatibility problem but that's what
you lock yourself into when you buy a system with no expansion whether it's
a compact you know itx or rather dtx
based one like this or whether it's you know a laptop with all the stuff
soldered onto it like that's the trap that you stick yourself in and another
is the timing we are a month away from b550 boards being available and here i
am picking up ab450 board b550 is going
to be way better PCIe gen 4 bifurcation
support i mean probably better support for upcoming processors just it's a bad
time to buy a budget motherboard because it'll probably be at a kind of similar price if i'm stuck with it the b450m
steel legend from asrock looks pretty good couple m.2 slots the two expansion
slots i need and it's reasonably priced i know people get triggered by reusing
thermal paste but it's pretty well established that it doesn't make a performance difference at this point so
for memory i'm reusing this 3200 cl 16 kit from team group it's nothing
particularly special but i'm also not going for bleeding edge performance here
necessarily if i miss a frame or two then it is what it is
normally i wouldn't go straight for putting the motherboard in the case but in this instance i'm gonna kind of need
to put it in there to visualize what's going on and how everything else is
going to fit the cerberus is also extremely open so
i'm not expecting that putting the motherboard in is going to limit my options too badly as we go forward and i
remember how hard we all used to cringe at the like camo color schemes on
motherboards back in the day who's laughing now
motherboard manufacturer selling motherboards to kids that's who
oh that's cool i don't know what this is but it's cool
so interestingly it looks like i've got a fair number of options for radiator
mounting like could i even put one on the side if i really wanted to it just
comes down to finding the best way to tetris your own components in so let's
let's keep putting stuff in and then see what we end up with so we came up with
the idea of salvaging parts from an all-in-one so
that we could just get a CPU block with a pump built into it i'm putting that on
there but i'm actually worried that this is going to interfere
with a full atx power supply oh man
if this fits it is going to be absolutely borderline
holy smokes hold on
wow that might actually fit
okay Jake took one of the fittings off this for me already just to make sure that
they were barb fittings that we could adapt to custom water cooling equipment
but he left the other one for me to do and it's like really hard to remove
and if there was ever a time i was likely to slice my hand open this would
be it all right shoot it up a little bit not too bad
so it goes on this way
which is gonna have these tubes come up right
away from the power supply here that's lucky and i know for a fact we didn't
plan that because i know that Jake did not open this case before he sent it
over to me so there we go
let's go ahead and throw this on the CPU do you want to go get me a power supply
actually i bet you could be back by the time i need to install it
or the odds do you feel like doing that
slim got it dang it we're going to try and build this thing without a power supply
while normally i wouldn't put the graphics card into a machine until at or
close to the end in this case it makes sense because i need to be able to see
how we're gonna plumb up the loop before i can decide where to mount the radiator
it's a shame though because the front of it was actually the more successful part
of the hydro dip now for the special sauce this is a
really cool usb card it has not one but
four independent controllers so each of these five gigabit per second ports is
actually a full five gigabit per second port without being shared between any of
the other ports that's why it actually requires a pci express 4x interface
there we go the solution to my problem now i got all
the usb oh you know what's crazy i didn't even
think of this this board's got two m.2s
and an extra pci slot so even if i don't
put a graphics card in the very bottom i could actually still squeeze another pci
express slot out of it wait is this even gonna fit
oh right there
three millimeters maybe nice for ease of plumbing i would
actually prefer to have my barbs on the bottom but to make it easier to bleed
the air bubbles out of this loop because i'm going to have kind of an underpowered pump i actually think i'm
going to put them on the top up here now that is a color scheme
and a half
it doesn't seem like much but i actually really like this cutout in the back here
where the ssds go that is a really nice touch because it means that you'll have
access to plug or unplug it even if you've got a radiator installed
there just by reaching around from the back that is awesome the SATA data cables are
crammed behind the radiator here you can easily access them like that
and then they plug into the motherboard right under the graphics card you can
barely even see them the madman did it just got back from the office
with an sfxl power supply i went with silverstone's sx800 lti it's an
extremely efficient and really cool power supply it's 800 watts and it's
just this teeny tiny little thing like i
would have to be actively gaming for that fan to even spin up which is pretty
freaking cool silverstone doesn't get enough credit sometimes you know and we're at the
point now where if you've got an 800 watt 80 plus titanium unit available in
this size it kind of raises the question why we need bigger ones another
advantage to going this route is i now have tons of room around my CPU cooler
so that's good that gives me room to you know run the tubing and all that kind of
stuff as well very nice the fact that all the panels in this
case pop off makes it a lot easier to work with than i was uh letting myself
believe there look at that all right
no problem this really is such an ingenious way to
handle these i've talked about it already but i can't get over it
i really like it i'm using a tubing standard i don't normally use for this
partly because Jake sent it over and partly because it makes sense for such a
compact build but these are 10 millimeter inner diameter 13 millimeter
outer diameters just helps it take up a little bit less space which is going to
be at a bit of a premium once all this is in there these are coarse air
fittings and if i recall correctly they partnered with bits power on them which
was a good move because these are these are super nice
putting a little bit of spare tubing over the fitting and then using that to
get a better grip while you're tightening it is a pretty good little trick
my loop is going to be really simple so i'm going to go straight down there then
i'm going to go out from here to this guy over here and then out from here
over to this one back here it's not going to look like anything special but
it should work pretty well now the keynote among you might have noticed i
cut that a little short that is because i have a pretty clever
trick planned i had wanted to use a proper t-fitting but
not being able to find that i'll settle for this this is just a nice little ek
multi-fitting block here so i'm going to open up the top of this and then i'm
going to open up the other side both of them up at the top of the loop and i'm
going to use that to allow the air to come out while i'm filling the
other side with water and then to allow me to top it up once the air settles up
in the top there it's funny some of the things i'm doing here feel like wrong
like this is a pretty ugly way to implement this considering you know how
nice the hardware i'm putting in it is but like it or not this is water cooling
done practical another not pretty but practical thing using zip ties to secure
tubing on barbs this is what peak performance looks like
all right my brilliant theory is that if i just pour water into this
it will fill huh
yeah okay we're dripping a bit fortunately
that is what paper towels
and GPU backplates are for oh you spilled your water cooling
surprise pikachu face i was a fool our water bottle is for
hydrating humans not computers lttstore.com all right
these tubes are full of water now so i'm just going to tip this back
okay here we go
and we are going to see the water run down
the other tubes hey there we go my theory was that filling it this way
would make it so i won't have to power on the system in order to bleed the air
bubbles so let's see how well that's working out for me here
uh actually looks like there's still some air bubbles in the graphics card
but not too bad i really wish i had a couple more
fittings because if i could just run tubes like over to the sink
and then into the faucet and just kind of fill it
and flush it i wonder if i do have them
test time
uh that's pretty good now i know masking tape is not ideal for
this but i need the wife to not wake up and be like hey why is there a bunch of tape residue all over our faucet
here goes
oh oh it's splashing
oh wow there were definitely lots of bubbles left in there
oh sweet okay this is officially how i'm bleeding every loop from now on
i ended up having to wiggle the case around a fair bit to get it all out but
i am pretty sure this loop is completely bled of air bubbles now
that is a full water cooling loop
and the system doesn't boot i already tried
a new power supply i already tried different RAM that leads me to believe
that i probably need to swap out the CPU for an older one and update the BIOS so
it's daytime now and i'm back from the office with another CPU if you want to
help come on over here kiddo so you want to do a CPU swap do you yeah
please all right step one remove this power supply because we need to get at the CPU
socket oh that's going to take the fan off we don't want to do that
good try though back here four screws
okay careful don't touch the pins on the bottom those are very fragile and if we
break that i have to drive all the way back to the office to get another one
this is a pretty tight build and there's not a lot of slack
thingy some radar sensors things radar
sensors what are you talking about lego sensor cables um
okay let's go test this see if it works think it's gonna work
hey it's working nice
those are packing foam for the case
okay you can't stand right in the front there sweetheart
and this is why i wanted to stay up late last night to get this finished i think
there might be a ghost under my table
what's it gonna do bad ghost things presumably
does anybody want to put on a panel for me please me please you gotta push so
hard go for it
okay good job yeah you're gonna go last well you don't
you don't have to punch it you just push on it just push on it you gotta use your weight you gotta push
no no you don't have to punch it all right little man you want to give a
shot i'm not a little man
you sure are you're my little man now that i'm closing it up what's more
impressive than how much stuff i have in here is how much stuff i could still fit
in here i could put a 120 or 140 ml rad in the bottom with some 90 degree
fittings without too much trouble if this isn't enough cooling that's what i'm gonna do i could put uh another fan
here blowing down on the system memory uh that could also be a good idea like i
didn't even explore the handle kit just because i found the clearance was so
tight in my media console that i wasn't going to be able to add that but i think
there's like a fan mount that's part of it just a really thoughtful case with a ton
of options i actually really like it and simple construction but top notch
that's it that's a lot of power in a tiny container
in comparing the size to the old case i realized that height
shouldn't have been my only concern it's actually quite a bit deeper as well now
for the big conclusion the system performs admirably temps are around 75
76 degrees on the GPU very nice not great for water cooling
but remember guys this is only a tool 120 radiator in a tiny case and our CPU
tops out at around 79 80 degrees remember though that's with both
components heating up the loop to the max at the same time for about an hour
and a half so this is an absolute worst case scenario that means it's finally
time for us to play some video games you guys want to play takelings
i'm going for it i'm going for it boys get wrecked
yours nothing get wrecked my literal son
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