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on paper today's project is pretty much the simplest thing ever after many hours

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of troubleshooting i've identified the problem with my vr gaming pc the

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on-board usb ports are not compatible

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with the five trackers that i'm using to enable full-body tracking when i'm

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streaming vr now the solution to this on the surface

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is very straightforward you need to just install a pci express usb card that uses

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a different chipset and run the trackers off that unfortunately because it needs

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to fit inside my tiny home theater console my vr gaming rig uses an itx

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motherboard so i went out on the prowl for the smallest mini atx case that i

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could find and this is it the sliger

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cerberus now on the surface this project is super straightforward take a

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basically working computer and transplant it from one case into another

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with a different motherboard but with how much has gone wrong with all of

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this so far what the why

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are they drifting i think it's pretty safe to say that i should probably have

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a camera rolling for it so why don't you come along for the ride

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brought to you by glasswire with glasswire you can keep track of the

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weird stuff that's connecting to your pc even when you aren't using it you can

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see if a strange device joins your wi-fi and block it instantly get 25 off by

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using code Linus at the link in the video description

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okay i misrepresented the ease of this project a little bit i am also going to

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be adding water cooling to the rig and the reason is that this right here is

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the rtx 2080 ti that was used for the uh

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yes hydro dipping a graphics card project

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in the process of hydro dipping it what happened was the pcb that handles fan

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control was actually damaged or one of the connectors was loosened in some way

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that makes the fan ramp up and then ramped down constantly it's super

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annoying that is literally the only reason i'm going water cooling to quiet

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down this now defective card this case is not really billed as a water cooling

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focused product but i've seen enough builds from other users online that have

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water cooling in them to suggest that it shouldn't be

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too challenging front i o is already a bit of a hassle

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for my setup just because these are coming out the top and i think this is

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basically exactly the height of my media cabinet the cold hard truth is there's

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no way around it because you can see here the motherboard is going to be basically

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the entire height of the case all they've added that might be considered

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extraneous is this fifth pci express slot which actually could come in handy

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for me big time in the future if a motherboard arrives that has a pci

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express 16x slot on the bottom because then i could put my graphics card right

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down in the bottom of the case and that would give me three more expansion slots

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that's a bigger factor for me than you might think because one of the other

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things that i might want to add to the system in the future is a wireless card

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for wireless vr so that's already two right there just for usb and wireless

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crap this is my first time hands-on with this

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case it's reasonably solid feeling but the construction is very basic pretty

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much every piece of it is some kind of you know table cut

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steel it's about it really easy to get it opened up so you

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can start working in it though i opted for a few accessories there's a handle

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kit in here we've got a handle bracket

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sfx power supply adapter

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oh no did Jake screw me over already he didn't

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send me an sfxl power supply i'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt maybe

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i don't need it anyway first order of business is to get

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all the old hardware stripped out of my vr gaming rig this two terabyte hard

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drive has got to go for sure i'm going to replace that with a high capacity

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solid-state drive you probably assumed i have a lot of this stuff i don't

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i actually love bottom mounted SSD

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kind of wish i had another matching industrial fan for this system Jake sent

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over nff12s i'm just not sure if they're going to have enough gusto 2080 ti and a

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Radeon 3900x this project is frustrating for a couple

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of reasons one is that it feels pretty stupid to have to upgrade a motherboard

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because the onboard usb has a compatibility problem but that's what

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you lock yourself into when you buy a system with no expansion whether it's

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a compact you know itx or rather dtx

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based one like this or whether it's you know a laptop with all the stuff

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soldered onto it like that's the trap that you stick yourself in and another

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is the timing we are a month away from b550 boards being available and here i

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am picking up ab450 board b550 is going

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to be way better PCIe gen 4 bifurcation

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support i mean probably better support for upcoming processors just it's a bad

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time to buy a budget motherboard because it'll probably be at a kind of similar price if i'm stuck with it the b450m

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steel legend from asrock looks pretty good couple m.2 slots the two expansion

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slots i need and it's reasonably priced i know people get triggered by reusing

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thermal paste but it's pretty well established that it doesn't make a performance difference at this point so

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for memory i'm reusing this 3200 cl 16 kit from team group it's nothing

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particularly special but i'm also not going for bleeding edge performance here

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necessarily if i miss a frame or two then it is what it is

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normally i wouldn't go straight for putting the motherboard in the case but in this instance i'm gonna kind of need

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to put it in there to visualize what's going on and how everything else is

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going to fit the cerberus is also extremely open so

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i'm not expecting that putting the motherboard in is going to limit my options too badly as we go forward and i

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remember how hard we all used to cringe at the like camo color schemes on

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motherboards back in the day who's laughing now

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motherboard manufacturer selling motherboards to kids that's who

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oh that's cool i don't know what this is but it's cool

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so interestingly it looks like i've got a fair number of options for radiator

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mounting like could i even put one on the side if i really wanted to it just

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comes down to finding the best way to tetris your own components in so let's

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let's keep putting stuff in and then see what we end up with so we came up with

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the idea of salvaging parts from an all-in-one so

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that we could just get a CPU block with a pump built into it i'm putting that on

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there but i'm actually worried that this is going to interfere

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with a full atx power supply oh man

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if this fits it is going to be absolutely borderline

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holy smokes hold on

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wow that might actually fit

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okay Jake took one of the fittings off this for me already just to make sure that

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they were barb fittings that we could adapt to custom water cooling equipment

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but he left the other one for me to do and it's like really hard to remove

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and if there was ever a time i was likely to slice my hand open this would

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be it all right shoot it up a little bit not too bad

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so it goes on this way

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which is gonna have these tubes come up right

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away from the power supply here that's lucky and i know for a fact we didn't

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plan that because i know that Jake did not open this case before he sent it

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over to me so there we go

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let's go ahead and throw this on the CPU do you want to go get me a power supply

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actually i bet you could be back by the time i need to install it

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or the odds do you feel like doing that

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slim got it dang it we're going to try and build this thing without a power supply

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while normally i wouldn't put the graphics card into a machine until at or

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close to the end in this case it makes sense because i need to be able to see

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how we're gonna plumb up the loop before i can decide where to mount the radiator

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it's a shame though because the front of it was actually the more successful part

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of the hydro dip now for the special sauce this is a

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really cool usb card it has not one but

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four independent controllers so each of these five gigabit per second ports is

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actually a full five gigabit per second port without being shared between any of

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the other ports that's why it actually requires a pci express 4x interface

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there we go the solution to my problem now i got all

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the usb oh you know what's crazy i didn't even

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think of this this board's got two m.2s

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and an extra pci slot so even if i don't

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put a graphics card in the very bottom i could actually still squeeze another pci

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express slot out of it wait is this even gonna fit

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oh right there

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three millimeters maybe nice for ease of plumbing i would

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actually prefer to have my barbs on the bottom but to make it easier to bleed

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the air bubbles out of this loop because i'm going to have kind of an underpowered pump i actually think i'm

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going to put them on the top up here now that is a color scheme

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and a half

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it doesn't seem like much but i actually really like this cutout in the back here

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where the ssds go that is a really nice touch because it means that you'll have

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access to plug or unplug it even if you've got a radiator installed

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there just by reaching around from the back that is awesome the SATA data cables are

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crammed behind the radiator here you can easily access them like that

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and then they plug into the motherboard right under the graphics card you can

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barely even see them the madman did it just got back from the office

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with an sfxl power supply i went with silverstone's sx800 lti it's an

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extremely efficient and really cool power supply it's 800 watts and it's

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just this teeny tiny little thing like i

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would have to be actively gaming for that fan to even spin up which is pretty

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freaking cool silverstone doesn't get enough credit sometimes you know and we're at the

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point now where if you've got an 800 watt 80 plus titanium unit available in

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this size it kind of raises the question why we need bigger ones another

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advantage to going this route is i now have tons of room around my CPU cooler

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so that's good that gives me room to you know run the tubing and all that kind of

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stuff as well very nice the fact that all the panels in this

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case pop off makes it a lot easier to work with than i was uh letting myself

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believe there look at that all right

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no problem this really is such an ingenious way to

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handle these i've talked about it already but i can't get over it

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i really like it i'm using a tubing standard i don't normally use for this

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partly because Jake sent it over and partly because it makes sense for such a

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compact build but these are 10 millimeter inner diameter 13 millimeter

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outer diameters just helps it take up a little bit less space which is going to

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be at a bit of a premium once all this is in there these are coarse air

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fittings and if i recall correctly they partnered with bits power on them which

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was a good move because these are these are super nice

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putting a little bit of spare tubing over the fitting and then using that to

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get a better grip while you're tightening it is a pretty good little trick

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my loop is going to be really simple so i'm going to go straight down there then

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i'm going to go out from here to this guy over here and then out from here

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over to this one back here it's not going to look like anything special but

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it should work pretty well now the keynote among you might have noticed i

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cut that a little short that is because i have a pretty clever

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trick planned i had wanted to use a proper t-fitting but

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not being able to find that i'll settle for this this is just a nice little ek

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multi-fitting block here so i'm going to open up the top of this and then i'm

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going to open up the other side both of them up at the top of the loop and i'm

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going to use that to allow the air to come out while i'm filling the

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other side with water and then to allow me to top it up once the air settles up

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in the top there it's funny some of the things i'm doing here feel like wrong

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like this is a pretty ugly way to implement this considering you know how

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nice the hardware i'm putting in it is but like it or not this is water cooling

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done practical another not pretty but practical thing using zip ties to secure

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tubing on barbs this is what peak performance looks like

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all right my brilliant theory is that if i just pour water into this

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it will fill huh

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yeah okay we're dripping a bit fortunately

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that is what paper towels

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and GPU backplates are for oh you spilled your water cooling

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surprise pikachu face i was a fool our water bottle is for

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hydrating humans not computers lttstore.com all right

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these tubes are full of water now so i'm just going to tip this back

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okay here we go

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and we are going to see the water run down

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the other tubes hey there we go my theory was that filling it this way

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would make it so i won't have to power on the system in order to bleed the air

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bubbles so let's see how well that's working out for me here

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uh actually looks like there's still some air bubbles in the graphics card

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but not too bad i really wish i had a couple more

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fittings because if i could just run tubes like over to the sink

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and then into the faucet and just kind of fill it

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and flush it i wonder if i do have them

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test time

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uh that's pretty good now i know masking tape is not ideal for

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this but i need the wife to not wake up and be like hey why is there a bunch of tape residue all over our faucet

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here goes

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oh oh it's splashing

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oh wow there were definitely lots of bubbles left in there

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oh sweet okay this is officially how i'm bleeding every loop from now on

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i ended up having to wiggle the case around a fair bit to get it all out but

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i am pretty sure this loop is completely bled of air bubbles now

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that is a full water cooling loop

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and the system doesn't boot i already tried

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a new power supply i already tried different RAM that leads me to believe

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that i probably need to swap out the CPU for an older one and update the BIOS so

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it's daytime now and i'm back from the office with another CPU if you want to

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help come on over here kiddo so you want to do a CPU swap do you yeah

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please all right step one remove this power supply because we need to get at the CPU

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socket oh that's going to take the fan off we don't want to do that

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good try though back here four screws

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okay careful don't touch the pins on the bottom those are very fragile and if we

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break that i have to drive all the way back to the office to get another one

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this is a pretty tight build and there's not a lot of slack

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thingy some radar sensors things radar

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sensors what are you talking about lego sensor cables um

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okay let's go test this see if it works think it's gonna work

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hey it's working nice

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those are packing foam for the case

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okay you can't stand right in the front there sweetheart

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and this is why i wanted to stay up late last night to get this finished i think

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there might be a ghost under my table

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what's it gonna do bad ghost things presumably

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does anybody want to put on a panel for me please me please you gotta push so

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hard go for it

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okay good job yeah you're gonna go last well you don't

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you don't have to punch it you just push on it just push on it you gotta use your weight you gotta push

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no no you don't have to punch it all right little man you want to give a

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shot i'm not a little man

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you sure are you're my little man now that i'm closing it up what's more

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impressive than how much stuff i have in here is how much stuff i could still fit

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in here i could put a 120 or 140 ml rad in the bottom with some 90 degree

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fittings without too much trouble if this isn't enough cooling that's what i'm gonna do i could put uh another fan

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here blowing down on the system memory uh that could also be a good idea like i

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didn't even explore the handle kit just because i found the clearance was so

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tight in my media console that i wasn't going to be able to add that but i think

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there's like a fan mount that's part of it just a really thoughtful case with a ton

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of options i actually really like it and simple construction but top notch

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that's it that's a lot of power in a tiny container

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in comparing the size to the old case i realized that height

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shouldn't have been my only concern it's actually quite a bit deeper as well now

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for the big conclusion the system performs admirably temps are around 75

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76 degrees on the GPU very nice not great for water cooling

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but remember guys this is only a tool 120 radiator in a tiny case and our CPU

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tops out at around 79 80 degrees remember though that's with both

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components heating up the loop to the max at the same time for about an hour

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and a half so this is an absolute worst case scenario that means it's finally

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time for us to play some video games you guys want to play takelings

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i'm going for it i'm going for it boys get wrecked

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yours nothing get wrecked my literal son

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