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I've been looking for a new mini PC for the Whale Land that's coming up because

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I don't want to lug my server rack there. And this little guy by Framework,

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the Framework Desktop, might just be what I want. But unfortunately, I think

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they've made some decisions that also scares me about the direction of

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framework. We'll get into that a bit later. Let's open up the box, see what

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comes with it. We got our left panel, translucent, and there it is. That is

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the entire computer. It is incredibly

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small and incredibly portable, which again is why I was so interested in this

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little device. We've got stickers. I'll put those on later. Quick start manual,

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the one screwdriver, which is all you should need. An SSD or you can BYO

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framework desktop tiles. Okay, these are

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tiny little plastic things that can go on the front of your computer,

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giving it a little bit of personality. As excited as I am by how cute they

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look, this is actually one of the things I'm going to be complaining about later.

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Accessory box, which includes, oh my gosh, even more of these tile packs that

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we can throw on the front. I believe it holds up to 21 different tiles, and you

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can configure them in any sort of order. And I believe you can also 3D print

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them. We actually did a main video on LT when these first were announced, and we

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had some kind of cool designs. C13 power cable, which is not actually normally

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included. Excuse me. This cable costs $4 on Amazon

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if I want to buy one or $5 from your site and you have the audacity to charge

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me for one. The computer doesn't work without it. I'm a little frustrated. I

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just think it's kind of ridiculous that something that is missionritical for the

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device to work doesn't come with it by default. Take a deep breath. It's fine.

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We can move on. Wow, we got a whole whack ton here. Whole bunch of different

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slants. We got ones that are sideways. We got some that are vertical. They're

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actually vented as well, so that way you can have a front intake. You should

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still put a fan on this CPU, which again, you can buy from their website,

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or you can just get the fan kit, which is free, and then bring your own fan.

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So, they give you the fan kit for free, but not the power cord.

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In classic framework fashion, you can also get the expansion cards because

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this device right at the bottom you can add up to two. So you could do USBC,

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USBA, the Ethernet has just enough clearance that you could put that. You

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don't need the Ethernet though on this because this nick in the back is 5 GB.

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I'm excited. Okay, because that's actually pretty cool. Most desktops

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would be like 1 or 2.5. Having five is

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incredible. And lastly, the handle, which I've been told they actually

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didn't send to us, but it is an option. I believe each one of these little tiles

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that you can buy that are like branded or loled with Linux or something are $5

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each. And then a pack of these, which

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comes with seven, was $10. That's one of the things that I alluded to in the

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intro that I was a little frustrated about. You get zero by default. So, if

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you want to customize the kit fully, you pay an extra $30. The reason this

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computer is so exciting to people like me who want a portable gaming station is

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because this is using the new Ryzen AI Max Plus 395. It's kind of a mouthful.

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You don't have to get the maxed out one. You can get the 385 chip which only

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comes with 32 GB of RAM. And I think that's probably going to be good for a

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lot of people. Obviously, I wanted the maxed out one. I want to take this thing

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as apart as I can though because it is so tiny. How do they fit everything in

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there? They told me if I wanted to take the hoodie off cuz I'm getting too warm. I have to plug ltstore.com. So, go buy

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it so I can be free from this. We'll see how apart I can get this thing. Before

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we boot it up, we are going to need to install the fan kit, but I want to tear

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it all down and see. Oh, yeah. There is even it's a PCIe Gen 4x4 slot right at

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the bottom. So, you could probably add another MVME SSD on it. Or maybe there

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will be a way to get a riser and an expansion bay for some sort of graphics

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card or GPU or something. It does already come with two MVME slots. One on

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the front here, which is Oh, actually right there on the side. And then one on

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the back of the board. Do I twist these?

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Ow. There we go. Use my little wind pans

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there. There was an arrow. I could have paid attention to the arrow. Okay. Now,

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now the back. I see. Now it slides up

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and away. And there's the second SSD spot. There's also our Wi-Fi card back

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here which does Wi-Fi 7 which is a nice addition. I wouldn't use it. You have 5

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Gbit like I said earlier, so but it's a nice addition. They didn't cut any cost

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there. I realize I said what the chip was, but I didn't talk about why this

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would make a good gaming PC and it's actually the Radeon 8060S GPU that's

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included. And because the memory is soldered directly onto the board, you

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can do similar to what Apple has had for a number of years, which is the unified memory in the BIOS. You can configure

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the amount of RAM you want to go to your GPU versus your CPU. It doesn't quite

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work like Apple's and it's not dynamic depending on the workflow. You have to

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set it, you know, when you boot the PC up. And this is where it gets a little

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weird for me. Framework did a whole write up about why they needed to solder

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the RAM. It's because they want to get the most performance out of the LP DDR5X

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memory that is on here. It's just for Framework, which started out as a

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repairability first company. You can swap all the parts out, buy the parts on

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their website. It feels backwards and

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weird that they've soldered the memory on. If you want to upgrade this down the

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line, you can't. You have to buy a whole new computer or a whole new board. You

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are getting great performance. So, that's again where I get conflicted on

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this. I want to get to those performance numbers though and actually see if maybe it's worth it. Maybe I can overlook it.

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We need to install our fan first. Is this the fan? This is the fan kit. looks

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3D printed, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It means you could probably

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make your own, but everything's all in

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paper. I do like the packaging material. The only bit of like hard plastic that

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I've seen so far was what was installed on the computer to help protect it. It's

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a good that that is great. At least they're not killing more sea turtles.

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Okay. Did it come with instructions? Oh, the QR code. Let's see if they fixed

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it. Does it take me? Yeah, it takes me directly to the CPU fan. That was an

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issue in an LTT where I scanned a QR code and it didn't take me to the

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correct product. Thank you, framework. Orient the fan so the label is facing

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downward and the cable is pointed towards the top of the computer. There

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you go. Tells you which direction. Top of the computer. All right. Holy cow.

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That is going to be a very snug fit once we get that side panel on. I need to

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plug it in first though. Oh, that's cool. They have a little

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cutout so you can actually if I can feed the cable through there.

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There we go. Hey, there you go. That is actually kind of nice. So, you're not

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trying to jam your fingers down there. Insert fan duct, which is this thing.

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Gives it a nice snug little fit. And then install the fan screws. Pretty

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easy.

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And then all we need to do is put our side panel on. We've got the clear one

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here, but there is a solid one available. Or apparently you can 3D

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print one that can make your Noctua fan quite a lot quieter. Apparently the

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website says what, 5 to 7 dB. That is a significant amount for a 3D printed mod.

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But hey, if it works, it works.

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Oh, look at how cute this thing is. Ah, lots of ventilation. That's awesome.

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Little magnetic front panel. We should decorate the front panel, right, Bjorn?

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Yeah. All right, let's decorate it.

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There's an LT one. Oh, that's cute. There's a blank one. I mean, you

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probably don't want to do the solid panels because again, you can fit an 80 millimeter fan in the front here if you

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wanted more air intake. You probably would want to do like the slotted ones.

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Oh, there's another Linus one. It's Tux.

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It's Tux. They put a little Linux QR code. Where does this take us? No. No.

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Oh my god. I've been hacked.

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You can tell their framework CEO is a boomer. Still uses that meme. Boomer.

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Narov. I'm sorry. Oh, we got a little ShortCircuit one.

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There you go. >> Finally. >> Some recognition around here. Smiley

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face. Little pride heart. Hell yeah. Oh no. I got one here.

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Oh, that's the other half of wide Linus.

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just because it'll bother people. Beautiful, >> isn't it? Great. So, it turns out the

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designed ones you I don't think you can get these exact ones. Those ones are

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>> I have a slight correction. The orange ones are $15 for a pack of seven. The

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black ones are $10 for a pack of seven. How much does this cost? Uh, editor, add

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it all up. But yes, we made our computer look like this for that much money. Oh

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god. I know I already mentioned the 5 GB port

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on the back. The rest of the IO is enough. HDMI, two DisplayPort, two

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USBA, two USBC, and an audio port. And

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then on the front is where you get some choice. In our case, all I had on hand

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was one USBC and one USBA. So that's why I chose those ones.

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All right, let's plug it in and get gaming on it. Oh, thankfully our $5

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power cable long enough for us to use at the desk there. If you can't tell, I'm a

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little salty. We had to pay for one. What I'm not salty about, though, is

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or by scanning the QR code on the screen now. God, I hope they put one there. How

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embarrassing. Cables are already pre-run. I didn't even get to use mine.

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Look how tiny this thing is on the desk compared to my headphones. I actually

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was just going to go turn it on cuz But where's the power button? Is that it?

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Yes, that is it. That does not look like a power button, but hey, is it booting?

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Oh, it's got post lights. Oh, there it is. Hey, we couldn't detect an operating

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system. Oh, wait. Did I actually put the SSD in? I assumed it was in.

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>> Elijah. >> Elijah. >> No. Stop.

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I just got so excited to boot it up, I forgot to put the SSD in. This will be

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super quick. We'll do the back one. Going from the

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back. Oh yeah. Look at it right there.

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Oh, it's on little hinge. Okay, that's kind of nice. Dude, speedun.

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Yippee. Very excited to see this.

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>> What's a QR code on left of the framework logo on the phone?

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>> There's no way this works.

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I will copyright this whole video framework and blame it on you. Okay, I

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want to game on this thing. Here we go. We're in Cyberpunk driving around. I've

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set it to 1080p, but everything is cranked except for rate tracing. No rate

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tracing on. And right now our 1% lows

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appear to be about 60fps. Dude, this is

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awesome. This is a totally playable experience. Obviously, higher FPS the

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better. I get it, right? Look at the size of this thing. And I'm getting

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better than the PS4 was at launch. Probably better than the PS5 was at

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launch. Holy cow. Okay, it's dipping a little bit. We're down to 50 FPS in the

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1% lows. And the fan is definitely ramping up. I can start to hear it a

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little bit more now that we died. Let's turn on rate tracing. Let's, you know,

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let's try to this machine. We'll do ray trace lighting medium and then

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I'll turn off reflections. See if we get a playful experience. Oh, cinematic 24

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FPS. Dude, no, this is not a playable experience. I would not be happy with

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this. Can we tweak the settings a little bit more? 50 FPS in the 1% lows. This is

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about what we had before. Yeah, I turned off most of the ray tracing though, so

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you know. Yeah, not a great experience with ray tracing. Let's try like an

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esport title. I'm going to I want to take this thing to a land party and

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that's what I would be playing mainly. I would not playing Cyberpunk at a land.

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>> Do you play any uh competitive games? >> PUBG would be the only one.

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>> No, but do you play like real like video games people take seriously or

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>> PUBG just cut for a second. Yeah, he's going crazy. Yeah.

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>> Loading up in a bot match of CS2. Our 1%

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lows. Oh, got up to 100. Oh, 90 there. Okay, so it seems around 90 is where it

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drops the lowest. And our average right now Oh, that's my teammate. Our average

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right now is about 150. I don't know if

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I expected anything higher. We're on 1440p with everything maxed out. It's

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hard to be upset at this performance when you look over and see the size of

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the computer. Doesn't feel warm. So, that fan is definitely doing its work.

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Man, it is quiet though. It's much quieter than Cyberpunk. So, we might not

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even be pushing our CPU that much on this performance. Let's talk about some

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lab performance at 1080p on our list of games here. Alan Wakeake, Cyberpunk,

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Dota 2, F1, and Red Dead 2, it never dropped below 60 FPS in the 1% lows. And

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in some of the averages in Dota 2, it got up to 144. That is pretty impressive

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for this little machine. And in two games, Cyberpunk and F1, it actually

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outperformed a 4060 desktop GPU. It's

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more expensive than a 4060 desktop GPU, but again, it it's very competent for

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gaming. And we did try rateracing benchmarks like you saw me play. It

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wasn't actually a good experience both in Cyberpunk and again the 4060 actually

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outperformed when you turn ray tracing on. And then the highest benchmark we

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tried was a 1440p benchmark. 60fps lows

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in Red Dead which I would still consider playable. It did drop too low in my

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opinion to Allen Wakeake 2. So I think 1080p is kind of the sweet spot for this

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machine which isn't a bad thing. But this device might not actually be mainly

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focused on gaming. It's definitely a bonus, but what you're probably

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interested in or a lot of people will be interested in is the AI performance. I

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know, scary buzzword, right? But you can still run many different LLMs on your

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machine locally. And you could even buy a bunch of them and using that 5 GB

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connection, maybe daisy chain them and make a big cluster. And the AI

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performance on this thing is freaking sick. We had our Labs team test with

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text generation on Llama 2 and it freaking destroyed the 4060. I again

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it's a 4060 GPU. I mean maybe if you had a bunch of 5090s it would crush this

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thing but this thing is as much as a

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5090 on its own and the benefit of this

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is you can allocate up to 96 GB of VRAM

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to your GPU unlike the 5090 which is limited to 32 gigs. You can't configure

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that. In some of our other tests though, on multi-core in Cinebench 2024, this

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thing got on par with an i7 14700 K. And

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in single core, it was basically on par again with a Ryzen 7 7800 X3D. So again,

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some productive workload environments. Maybe if you just want to throw a render

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on this thing after you're done editing it on a different computer, again, maybe

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making a render farm out of them, connecting all of them together. It's pretty sick in terms of temperature on

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this bad boy cuz you notice I did comment on the fan. It's getting a little up there if you let it run for a

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bit. It didn't seem to really thermal throttle unless you really stress test

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it. Cinebench 2024. It did get up to 94°

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C, but on the entire run its clock

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speeds were able to average 4500,

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which is way higher than base. not quite as high as it can get up to, which is

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5.1. But the fact that it is able to stay above its base clock for the entire

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length of the run means it's never having to throttle down that severe in

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the event of a temperature overload. I guess it depends though if the performance you saw today is worth the

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price. This config right here is $2,300.

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It does start at about $1,000 without all the little, you know, knick-knacks

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in the front here. Those are all add-ons. And I think that it is worth

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the price. It is a lot of money, but again, it's compromising on some things

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that made framework framework. The soldered memory, the cost of these

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little doodads. I know I keep hyperfixating on it, but it's it seems

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ridiculous to me. Let me know what you guys think down below. Really fun to pop

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out. >> Thanks so much for watching.

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>> If you guys enjoyed this video, sorry. If you guys enjoyed this video and want

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to see another one of my videos, go check out my first ShortCircuit, which

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was called the game scent. You got to smell your games through the power of

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AI, and it smelt terrible,

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really bad, like ass.