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Threadripper CPU, I got braces. I got a

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firet truck. I cooled a bunch of stuff. And I prepared for this day, this day of

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today's when I will unbox, install, and

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find out how many points AMD's king of the Thread Rippers, the Ryzen 9980X, can

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get us in Cinebench and various other points measuring softwares. can 64 Zen 5

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cores and over 300 million bytes of

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cache ascend us to dizzying heights the likes of which high-end desktops have

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never seen before or is this going to be a classic modern Yeah. Yeah, I guess the

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new one's faster. To find out, I'm going

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description. When it comes to the numbers on the spec sheet, AMD's new

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Threadripper 9980X has more in common

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with the last gen than it seems to have different. It's got the same number of

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processing cores, 64 cores and 128 threads with the same admittedly massive

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L2 and L3 caches operating at the same base clock frequency of 3.2 2 GHz in the

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same STR5 socket at the same 350 watt

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TDP. So, AMD, what took 2 years? I don't

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know. How about 80 freaking lanes of

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PCIe Gen 5? That's almost double the

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Piddley 48 lanes of yestery year 7980X.

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And okay, yes, Intel Xeon W3500 series

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can do up to 112 lanes of PCIe Gen 5.

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But I think the folks who care about that are probably more likely to be

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interested in AMD's new Threadripper Pro chips that launched literally the

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day that we were reviewing this script. But then AMD didn't send those over for

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comparison. So I guess if I want transparency in my CPU launches, I'll

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have to do it myself with this transparent screwdriver available now at

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ltstore.com. Anywh who, there's more to love about

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the chips that we do have here today, so let's focus on these. AMD was already

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ahead of their competition in performance, and the best got even

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better today. The move from AMD's older Zen 4 architecture to Zen 5 netted them

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a pretty juicy double-digit performance increase, even at the exact same clock

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speed. And adding a bit of extra spice, is the fact that the higher core count

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chips this generation should be able to boost even higher, as high as 5.4 GHz in

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lightly threaded loads. And that's out of the box. As is tradition, AMD's

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latest Threadripper chips are factory unlocked for overclocking. But before we

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get to that, I want to talk about another outofthe-box improvement, and

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that's memory. Threadripper's quad channel memory controller is going from

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it's going from being rated for a pitily 5200 megat transfers per second to a

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juicy 6400 megat transfers per second.

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Now, we've got only 128 gigs of this

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overclockable ECC register and RDM memory to play with today, courtesy of

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AMD, who provided this hardware for testing. But the 9980X supports up to 1

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terabte of memory. That's up to four 256

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gig modules. What a time to be alive.

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Pies. Now, the motherboard isn't the main focus for today, but I do want to

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throw some storage in it, and I can use this as an opportunity to highlight the

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kinds of configurations that are possible thanks to all the PCIe lanes on

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this new CPU. Down here, we've got five PCIe x6 slots. Now, they're all not

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running at 16 Gen 5, but these two are.

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got PCIe lanes for dual Gen 5 slots.

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another Gen 4 slot and plenty of PCIe

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left for unbelievable onboard connectivity. I'm talking Wi-Fi 7, super

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fast USB, and both 2 and a half gig and

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10 gig networking. And because there's so much PCIe on the CPU, those are all

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running without any kind of switching. So, you're not going to have to worry

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about bottlenecks if you're hitting your, you know, AI accelerator super

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hard here and your high-speed storage array and your high-speed networking all

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at the same time. Of course, it won't do any of that without a power supply.

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Now, the keenite among you might have noticed that this is a 1600 W power

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supply. But Lionus, you might ask, you mentioned a 350 W TDP earlier. What's

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the point of this kind of ludicrous overkill? Well, that's a great question.

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guidelines for what you might need. And um

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is this right? They recommend a 1,500 watt power

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I'm going to need a minute to process this, which is probably fine cuz it's

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going to take me a solid 15 minutes to wire this thing up. On top of the usual

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dual 8pin CPU power connectors that you would find on a high-end platform like

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this, for the CPU alone, there are two

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more 12vt PCIe 8pin connectors. And then

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to help with auxiliary power for the PCIe slots, there's a six pin and an 8

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pin PCIe. And that ignores what about

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second 24 pin. Although this one is less

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about providing more power and more about allowing you to run dual power

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supplies that will both turn on at the same time when you turn on the system.

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yet. And uh we're going to need some pretty

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special cooling for this as well. Red ripper specific AIO uses a triple 120 mm

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radiator. And you notice the uh pump block unit is pretty low profile. That's

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cuz the pump is actually here embedded in the radiator. Cool beans.

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Oh, wow. That was quick. I was actually expecting it to take a

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very, very, very, very long time to boot. Apparently, the first time we

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tried to fire this up, it took about 5 minutes for memory training, which I

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mean, compared to epic, not even that bad. Hey, there we go. 128 gigs. Went

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right to DDR56400 because that's not an expo profile. That's just the speed this

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flipping stuff runs at. Man, that's really surprising for our high-end

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desktop almost workstation platform. Our SSD is picked up. All we got to do is

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probably seen this with Zen 5, cores, but not Threadripper ones that run this

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fast. Now, obviously, we know that a

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system like this is not meant for gaming, but I mean, come on. You got 64

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cores >> running at like 5.4 4 GHz >> up two. I should have

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>> up two. That's basically a gaming CPU right there. >> Let's play some cyber punk. Did we talk

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about pricing yet? >> It's >> Oh, I wasn't going to tell them yet.

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>> And this is where they all tune out. >> Yeah. I mean, we're still getting like

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1% of like 8090 in the elevator.

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>> I don't want to include this. >> But it's 95% usage on the GPU.

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>> I mean, oh, you're not wrong. >> 13%. >> What the hell? What is our CPU at 97°?

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Fair enough. >> Uh do do you smell it though? >> Hold on. Hold on. Let me just

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>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I think frame view just is not

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>> there's too many threads. It's confusing >> configured for this. Yes.

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and we're doing like 48°. So now you

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might think, hey, if it does it so effortlessly, it must be the fastest

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gaming CPU. But that's not really the case. We benchmarked this puppy against

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the top of the line of AMD's regular consumer desktop chips, the 9950 X3D,

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and it mostly keeps up mostly thanks to

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its high clock speeds. But in Cyberpunk, it exhibited some anomalous performance

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that AMD was able to replicate on their side. So neat, I guess. Good gaming

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performance for a lot more money. Um,

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like a lot more. We got the price this morning, right? Yeah, it's uh it's

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$5,000. It's the same as the last thread. It didn't go up. Hey, hey, let's

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go. To be clear, like the screwdriver,

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as excited as we are about something not going up in price, buying into a

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platform like this at any price is pretty dumb. Even if it's just for

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bragging rights, that's still dumb. But it doesn't mean this is a dumb product.

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To be clear, he forgot to change the setting off from 10 minutes to just like

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render once. Uh, but it's done. It already restarted. That was under a

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minute. We're at 909. >> 6870

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points. >> That's a lot for 24.

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>> Okay, that is a lot. >> Five. >> This is just a lot.

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>> Oh, yeah. We should look at our wattage. Pretty good opportunity here. >> Yo, 65° that's totally fine. And 350 W

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exactly what we'd expect based on the TDP of this chip. But what's interesting

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is we haven't enabled PBO yet. And right now it's only running at dude average

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effective clock 4.3. >> Pretty good on across across 64 cores.

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>> That's pretty wild, >> dude. This thing rips. So gaming pretty

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dumb. But if you're at work stuck on a consumer platform or an older

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workstation that's holding back your productivity, by all means pick up a

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scribe driver and write a polite memo to procurement to ask for one of these

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babies. But with that said, if you're already on last gen Threadripper, even

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though this chip is just a drop-in replacement, unless you need the extra

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PCIe lanes or specifically more memory bandwidth, it might not be worth the

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expense. or is it an example where you might really benefit from a Thread

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Ripper 9000 would be AI and machine learning. While there is no NPU or

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neural processor on this thing or even an integrated GPU at all, let's be real.

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If you're spending this kind of money on a workstation, it's not to run AI on

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your stupid CPU. is to take advantage of all those PCIe lanes to run as many GPUs

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as possible to form a little local supercluster and then let those chew up

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your inference models. For funsies, we

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did run some quick procon AI computer vision tests on the CPU and as expected,

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it's not for that. It actually even lost

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to our 9950X3D, probably because of higher latency

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between the CPU memory modules and also the lower boost frequency. It actually

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even lost to a GTX 1060, a $300 GPU from

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2016. But when you've got 80 PCIe Gen 5 lanes,

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you're going to be hooking up quad 5090s or even workstation grade cards, which

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is going to make our 1060 look like a bad joke. So, we agree with AMD's

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assessment that Threadripper 9000 is good for AI.

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>> Yes, >> it's just more as a supporting cast member. >> Yeah, like me.

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>> Rather than an AI compute star, >> not like you.

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>> Not an AI comput star. >> What does this even mean? >> I don't know. >> Let's see how fast it runs some stuff

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it's actually intended for, like spec workstations. While AMD focused on Intel

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comparisons in their reviewers guide, we recognized that nobody cares about what

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Intel's doing in Workstation right now. So instead, we put it up against AMD's

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top consumer chip, the Ryzen 9 9950X3D

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to see what the justification is for spending 10x, almost 8x on your CPU.

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>> 7zip pretty compelling. We're looking at

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nearly double the performance in both compression and decompression.

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looks like. Let's go. I don't care if we barely win.

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We've won. Actually, no. We won by a lot. Y Cruncher sub 8 seconds.

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>> M delicious moon pies. >> Moon pies. What a time to be alive.

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>> And how about Spec Workstation? Here we go from a 2.12 CPU score on our 9950 X3D

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see some obliteration in the actual performance across a range

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of CPU oriented professional applications. What a monster.

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>> Speaking of, it was three times faster in Blender, rendering our monster

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benchmark scene in just one minute. Man,

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>> Probably does in like 10 seconds now. >> It probably spends more time spooling up

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the job than actually doing it. What about GDAU compile though? I mean, after

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all, that might be something you'd care about if you're buying a processor like

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this. And uh wow, that poor poor 9950X 3D. Next up is

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>> but not as much as I'd like for the price. >> Not two or three times as fast like

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we're seeing some of these other. >> But hear me out. >> Sure. >> All of this is while we're encumbered by

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a measly 350 W power limit. >> That's very true. >> What if we just turn up the turbulent

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juice? >> PBO. >> Let's go.

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>> Next thing we're going to do is we're going into precision boost overdrive

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advanced. We're going to set our PPT limit to, I don't know, John said

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something astronomical. So, I'm going to put 1 billion.

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>> That's good. >> We're also going to turn up our maximum CPU boost clock override to 200. So,

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that's across all cores. >> Let's go. >> And then for our curve optimizer, we're

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>> Good luck, everybody. >> Let's see if this little AIO can handle

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>> It honestly it handled 350 watts pretty well. Let's be real here.

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>> and my heart. Cinebench multicore. Here we go. 41C 48 C 48 C 52 C.

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>> It's only 39. Okay, now it's pulling it. 400 watts. 390

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not as much as I expected. In fairness, these are kind of the AMD recommended

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settings and it's clocking higher.

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and at only 390 W. >> Like, I mean that. I mean that. That's

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kind of incredible. >> I think we can do more though. >> You think so? >> I think we can do more. We've set our

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peak current limits to uh

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platform thermal throttle limit to 100°. >> Hell yeah.

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>> Hell yeah. And then the one other thing that I was looking at in here is maybe

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we should disable this >> throttling. >> Yeah, just let her rip.

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>> Yeah, they're good. >> Let her rip. And then peak current

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control. Who needs that? Not me. >> Oh, buddy.

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>> 72° 550 watts. 78°.

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Yes. >> I I think it's going down. >> I hear the fans going.

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>> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, buddy. >> 78 533.

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>> Look at this frequency. >> 85.

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You think we can hit 5 GHz all core if we get a bigger cooler on it?

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>> I mean, ADC, >> anything's possible. I feel like it's

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got more to give, but we're thermally limited. If only there was some way to

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get it colder. Our chiller's broken right now. I just don't really have any

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ideas for uh

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We got a lot of ice. Seriously, we're going ice bucket. We're doing the ice

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bucket challenge like it's 2018. When was ice bucket challenge?

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>> 2016, actually. No, it's probably earlier than that. Oh god, I'm so old.

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Here we go. Oh god,

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what's happening? Why are we doing this?

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That's horrible. Why would you tell me to do that?

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Under normal circumstances, we would do a bunch of insulation on the motherboard

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to ensure that condensation doesn't damage it. But we're going to be running

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this for such a short period of time. So, as long as we keep an eye on the

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outside of the block, I'm not actually worried about it being a problem. Um,

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here, this is coming really soon, ltstore.com.a,

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and compatible with our little uh key holder, power bar holders, so you can

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stick your bits wherever they need to go. Uh, I think it's this one. And now,

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I'm going to do a good job of testing this pump bet.

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Where's our block? Oh, that would have been terrible. What?

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>> I just had this running down to the floor, blah blah, etc. EK, they've gone

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through some >> We've had it for a long time, but you know, these are all forward and

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backwards compatible with Threadripper. >> Oh, cool. >> At least on this socket. Yeah.

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>> So, uh, even though it's an older block, >> it'll work on the new STR5.

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>> Oh, shoot. >> Yeah, there's a little bit of gunk in there. >> Oh, balls.

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>> Is it too much? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, we only got to run it for like

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10 minutes. >> Okay, there we go. And yikes.

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What the heck kind of water did we put in here? That's the problem is any junk

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that does grow in a loop or anything that does contaminate it usually ends up

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in the CPU block because that's where all these tight little fins are. You know,

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>> obviously this kind of setup wouldn't work for a long-term deployment. But

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>> we're just going to see if we can push this thing a little further. You want 5 GHz?

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>> Yeah, we we saw 4.8 4.85.

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>> I know, but it's on 64 cores. >> Yeah, but now we've got a bucket of ice.

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>> That's true. >> Do it. All right. How's our temps?

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Casual 13°. Let's go, boys.

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>> Yes. >> What? What? It's getting cold.

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>> This is amazing. >> We've done >> I had no idea what you guys were doing

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when you said bucket. >> It's cooling solutions for cool kids.

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>> Yeah, we've done this multiple times. >> Yeah. >> Well, what do you think? How hot do you

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think it's ice? >> My CPU is at like 8C. Like, this works.

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This is not a stupid thing to do. >> Yeah. Well, >> well, okay. Okay. Longterm maybe, but

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temporary it's great. >> Yeah. >> 365 a lot.

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>> Wait, what? >> 8 485. No, it's still going. Just let it go. >> Okay, she's going. She's cooking.

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>> I don't know if it'll go past 500 though. 490. >> Same.

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>> Yeah, we're stuck at 4.85.

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>> We weren't thermally limited. >> No, I'm partic I'm, you know, I'm

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wellelmed.

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Appropriately wellelmed. Not over or under, just appropriately wellelmed.

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>> Good chip and shockingly not that hard

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to cool. So if you were to build a workstation around this thing, I mean,

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>> 360 mil AIO is honestly way good enough. >> And you can chuck it right in the

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existing machine you had that was already handling a Threadripper cuz it's running at exactly the same TDP. I

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set the multiplier to 50. Um, PBO let me

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down. And we're at 630 W now. So my

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scale here is not sufficient anymore. No, we didn't cut the screen count. Oh,

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she's going, boys. >> Oh my god. What'd you change? >> We're over 5 GHz.

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>> No. 640 watts. What do you change? What did you change? >> I just turned the multiplier up. With

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that said, I don't necessarily know it's worth upgrading from a 7950X, but I

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never say no to more performance at the same wattage and core count. And if you

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Oh god, it can do even more. >> All crashed. No, it can't.

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>> We were at 770 watts. 5.3 GHz.

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>> Yes. Maybe >> five plus GHz. It's really >> That's a lot on 64 cores. Yeah.
