In the 2 years since AMD last launched a
Threadripper CPU, I got braces. I got a
firet truck. I cooled a bunch of stuff. And I prepared for this day, this day of
today's when I will unbox, install, and
find out how many points AMD's king of the Thread Rippers, the Ryzen 9980X, can
get us in Cinebench and various other points measuring softwares. can 64 Zen 5
cores and over 300 million bytes of
cache ascend us to dizzying heights the likes of which high-end desktops have
never seen before or is this going to be a classic modern Yeah. Yeah, I guess the
new one's faster. To find out, I'm going
to have to brave Shamada Peak.
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description. When it comes to the numbers on the spec sheet, AMD's new
Threadripper 9980X has more in common
with the last gen than it seems to have different. It's got the same number of
processing cores, 64 cores and 128 threads with the same admittedly massive
L2 and L3 caches operating at the same base clock frequency of 3.2 2 GHz in the
same STR5 socket at the same 350 watt
TDP. So, AMD, what took 2 years? I don't
know. How about 80 freaking lanes of
PCIe Gen 5? That's almost double the
Piddley 48 lanes of yestery year 7980X.
And okay, yes, Intel Xeon W3500 series
can do up to 112 lanes of PCIe Gen 5.
But I think the folks who care about that are probably more likely to be
interested in AMD's new Threadripper Pro chips that launched literally the
day that we were reviewing this script. But then AMD didn't send those over for
comparison. So I guess if I want transparency in my CPU launches, I'll
have to do it myself with this transparent screwdriver available now at
ltstore.com. Anywh who, there's more to love about
the chips that we do have here today, so let's focus on these. AMD was already
ahead of their competition in performance, and the best got even
better today. The move from AMD's older Zen 4 architecture to Zen 5 netted them
a pretty juicy double-digit performance increase, even at the exact same clock
speed. And adding a bit of extra spice, is the fact that the higher core count
chips this generation should be able to boost even higher, as high as 5.4 GHz in
lightly threaded loads. And that's out of the box. As is tradition, AMD's
latest Threadripper chips are factory unlocked for overclocking. But before we
get to that, I want to talk about another outofthe-box improvement, and
that's memory. Threadripper's quad channel memory controller is going from
it's going from being rated for a pitily 5200 megat transfers per second to a
juicy 6400 megat transfers per second.
Now, we've got only 128 gigs of this
overclockable ECC register and RDM memory to play with today, courtesy of
AMD, who provided this hardware for testing. But the 9980X supports up to 1
terabte of memory. That's up to four 256
gig modules. What a time to be alive.
Pies. Now, the motherboard isn't the main focus for today, but I do want to
throw some storage in it, and I can use this as an opportunity to highlight the
kinds of configurations that are possible thanks to all the PCIe lanes on
this new CPU. Down here, we've got five PCIe x6 slots. Now, they're all not
running at 16 Gen 5, but these two are.
This is Gen 5 by 8, and these two are gen 4x4 and gen 4x6. We've then still
got PCIe lanes for dual Gen 5 slots.
another Gen 4 slot and plenty of PCIe
left for unbelievable onboard connectivity. I'm talking Wi-Fi 7, super
fast USB, and both 2 and a half gig and
10 gig networking. And because there's so much PCIe on the CPU, those are all
running without any kind of switching. So, you're not going to have to worry
about bottlenecks if you're hitting your, you know, AI accelerator super
hard here and your high-speed storage array and your high-speed networking all
at the same time. Of course, it won't do any of that without a power supply.
Now, the keenite among you might have noticed that this is a 1600 W power
supply. But Lionus, you might ask, you mentioned a 350 W TDP earlier. What's
the point of this kind of ludicrous overkill? Well, that's a great question.
As it turns out, AMD not only allows overclocking, they even provided some
guidelines for what you might need. And um
is this right? They recommend a 1,500 watt power
supply.
I'm going to need a minute to process this, which is probably fine cuz it's
going to take me a solid 15 minutes to wire this thing up. On top of the usual
dual 8pin CPU power connectors that you would find on a high-end platform like
this, for the CPU alone, there are two
more 12vt PCIe 8pin connectors. And then
to help with auxiliary power for the PCIe slots, there's a six pin and an 8
pin PCIe. And that ignores what about
second 24 pin. Although this one is less
about providing more power and more about allowing you to run dual power
supplies that will both turn on at the same time when you turn on the system.
That is flipping hilarious. I haven't plugged in anything but the motherboard
yet. And uh we're going to need some pretty
special cooling for this as well. Red ripper specific AIO uses a triple 120 mm
radiator. And you notice the uh pump block unit is pretty low profile. That's
cuz the pump is actually here embedded in the radiator. Cool beans.
I hate myself for saying this, but wow, this is a pretty reasonable size for a
5090. All right, big moment.
Oh, wow. That was quick. I was actually expecting it to take a
very, very, very, very long time to boot. Apparently, the first time we
tried to fire this up, it took about 5 minutes for memory training, which I
mean, compared to epic, not even that bad. Hey, there we go. 128 gigs. Went
right to DDR56400 because that's not an expo profile. That's just the speed this
flipping stuff runs at. Man, that's really surprising for our high-end
desktop almost workstation platform. Our SSD is picked up. All we got to do is
Okay, we've seen this before, but we've never seen this with well, okay, we've
probably seen this with Zen 5, cores, but not Threadripper ones that run this
fast. Now, obviously, we know that a
system like this is not meant for gaming, but I mean, come on. You got 64
cores >> running at like 5.4 4 GHz >> up two. I should have
>> up two. That's basically a gaming CPU right there. >> Let's play some cyber punk. Did we talk
about pricing yet? >> It's >> Oh, I wasn't going to tell them yet.
>> And this is where they all tune out. >> Yeah. I mean, we're still getting like
1% of like 8090 in the elevator.
>> I don't want to include this. >> But it's 95% usage on the GPU.
>> I mean, oh, you're not wrong. >> 13%. >> What the hell? What is our CPU at 97°?
Fair enough. >> Uh do do you smell it though? >> Hold on. Hold on. Let me just
>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I think frame view just is not
>> there's too many threads. It's confusing >> configured for this. Yes.
>> 128 threads. >> Yeah. We're only drawing up 100 watts
and we're doing like 48°. So now you
might think, hey, if it does it so effortlessly, it must be the fastest
gaming CPU. But that's not really the case. We benchmarked this puppy against
the top of the line of AMD's regular consumer desktop chips, the 9950 X3D,
and it mostly keeps up mostly thanks to
its high clock speeds. But in Cyberpunk, it exhibited some anomalous performance
that AMD was able to replicate on their side. So neat, I guess. Good gaming
performance for a lot more money. Um,
like a lot more. We got the price this morning, right? Yeah, it's uh it's
$5,000. It's the same as the last thread. It didn't go up. Hey, hey, let's
go. To be clear, like the screwdriver,
as excited as we are about something not going up in price, buying into a
platform like this at any price is pretty dumb. Even if it's just for
bragging rights, that's still dumb. But it doesn't mean this is a dumb product.
To be clear, he forgot to change the setting off from 10 minutes to just like
render once. Uh, but it's done. It already restarted. That was under a
minute. We're at 909. >> 6870
points. >> That's a lot for 24.
>> What did our 16 core Ryzen get? >> 24 27.
>> Okay, that is a lot. >> Five. >> This is just a lot.
>> Yeah. >> Okay, hold on a second. I'm running the stress test version, which actually is
>> Oh, yeah. We should look at our wattage. Pretty good opportunity here. >> Yo, 65° that's totally fine. And 350 W
exactly what we'd expect based on the TDP of this chip. But what's interesting
is we haven't enabled PBO yet. And right now it's only running at dude average
effective clock 4.3. >> Pretty good on across across 64 cores.
>> That's pretty wild, >> dude. This thing rips. So gaming pretty
dumb. But if you're at work stuck on a consumer platform or an older
workstation that's holding back your productivity, by all means pick up a
scribe driver and write a polite memo to procurement to ask for one of these
babies. But with that said, if you're already on last gen Threadripper, even
though this chip is just a drop-in replacement, unless you need the extra
PCIe lanes or specifically more memory bandwidth, it might not be worth the
expense. or is it an example where you might really benefit from a Thread
Ripper 9000 would be AI and machine learning. While there is no NPU or
neural processor on this thing or even an integrated GPU at all, let's be real.
If you're spending this kind of money on a workstation, it's not to run AI on
your stupid CPU. is to take advantage of all those PCIe lanes to run as many GPUs
as possible to form a little local supercluster and then let those chew up
your inference models. For funsies, we
did run some quick procon AI computer vision tests on the CPU and as expected,
it's not for that. It actually even lost
to our 9950X3D, probably because of higher latency
between the CPU memory modules and also the lower boost frequency. It actually
even lost to a GTX 1060, a $300 GPU from
2016. But when you've got 80 PCIe Gen 5 lanes,
you're going to be hooking up quad 5090s or even workstation grade cards, which
is going to make our 1060 look like a bad joke. So, we agree with AMD's
assessment that Threadripper 9000 is good for AI.
>> Yes, >> it's just more as a supporting cast member. >> Yeah, like me.
>> Rather than an AI compute star, >> not like you.
>> Not an AI comput star. >> What does this even mean? >> I don't know. >> Let's see how fast it runs some stuff
it's actually intended for, like spec workstations. While AMD focused on Intel
comparisons in their reviewers guide, we recognized that nobody cares about what
Intel's doing in Workstation right now. So instead, we put it up against AMD's
top consumer chip, the Ryzen 9 9950X3D
to see what the justification is for spending 10x, almost 8x on your CPU.
>> 7zip pretty compelling. We're looking at
nearly double the performance in both compression and decompression.
>> Yeah, it costs more than five times as much money. But this is what winning
looks like. Let's go. I don't care if we barely win.
We've won. Actually, no. We won by a lot. Y Cruncher sub 8 seconds.
>> M delicious moon pies. >> Moon pies. What a time to be alive.
>> And how about Spec Workstation? Here we go from a 2.12 CPU score on our 9950 X3D
to 4.16 on our latest Threadripper. We
see some obliteration in the actual performance across a range
of CPU oriented professional applications. What a monster.
>> Speaking of, it was three times faster in Blender, rendering our monster
benchmark scene in just one minute. Man,
I remember when like finishing BMW in a minute was impressive.
>> Probably does in like 10 seconds now. >> It probably spends more time spooling up
the job than actually doing it. What about GDAU compile though? I mean, after
all, that might be something you'd care about if you're buying a processor like
this. And uh wow, that poor poor 9950X 3D. Next up is
Handbreak. And uh h it's better, but not
that much better. At least not for AV1. Maybe X264.
>> No, it's about the same uplift there as well. So, you know, there's uplift,
>> but not as much as I'd like for the price. >> Not two or three times as fast like
we're seeing some of these other. >> But hear me out. >> Sure. >> All of this is while we're encumbered by
a measly 350 W power limit. >> That's very true. >> What if we just turn up the turbulent
juice? >> PBO. >> Let's go.
>> Next thing we're going to do is we're going into precision boost overdrive
advanced. We're going to set our PPT limit to, I don't know, John said
something astronomical. So, I'm going to put 1 billion.
>> That's good. >> We're also going to turn up our maximum CPU boost clock override to 200. So,
that's across all cores. >> Let's go. >> And then for our curve optimizer, we're
going to set all cores to five.
>> Good luck, everybody. >> Let's see if this little AIO can handle
it. It's a 360 mil rad, which is great.
>> It's great. Good job, Silver Stone.
>> It honestly it handled 350 watts pretty well. Let's be real here.
>> Easy money. >> Yeah. >> And it warms my arm
>> and my heart. Cinebench multicore. Here we go. 41C 48 C 48 C 52 C.
>> It's only 39. Okay, now it's pulling it. 400 watts. 390
>> 390 watts. out. Honestly,
not as much as I expected. In fairness, these are kind of the AMD recommended
settings and it's clocking higher.
>> Dude, we're hitting 4.5 GHz on 64 cores
and at only 390 W. >> Like, I mean that. I mean that. That's
kind of incredible. >> I think we can do more though. >> You think so? >> I think we can do more. We've set our
peak current limits to uh
1 million milliamps.
We increased our precision boost overdrive scaler to 3x. We set the
platform thermal throttle limit to 100°. >> Hell yeah.
>> Hell yeah. And then the one other thing that I was looking at in here is maybe
we should disable this >> throttling. >> Yeah, just let her rip.
>> Yeah, they're good. >> Let her rip. And then peak current
control. Who needs that? Not me. >> Oh, buddy.
>> 72° 550 watts. 78°.
Yes. >> I I think it's going down. >> I hear the fans going.
>> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, buddy. >> 78 533.
>> Look at this frequency. >> 85.
You think we can hit 5 GHz all core if we get a bigger cooler on it?
>> I mean, ADC, >> anything's possible. I feel like it's
got more to give, but we're thermally limited. If only there was some way to
get it colder. Our chiller's broken right now. I just don't really have any
ideas for uh
We got a lot of ice. Seriously, we're going ice bucket. We're doing the ice
bucket challenge like it's 2018. When was ice bucket challenge?
>> 2016, actually. No, it's probably earlier than that. Oh god, I'm so old.
Here we go. Oh god,
what's happening? Why are we doing this?
That's horrible. Why would you tell me to do that?
Under normal circumstances, we would do a bunch of insulation on the motherboard
to ensure that condensation doesn't damage it. But we're going to be running
this for such a short period of time. So, as long as we keep an eye on the
outside of the block, I'm not actually worried about it being a problem. Um,
here, this is coming really soon, ltstore.com.a,
and compatible with our little uh key holder, power bar holders, so you can
stick your bits wherever they need to go. Uh, I think it's this one. And now,
I'm going to do a good job of testing this pump bet.
Where's our block? Oh, that would have been terrible. What?
>> I just had this running down to the floor, blah blah, etc. EK, they've gone
through some >> We've had it for a long time, but you know, these are all forward and
backwards compatible with Threadripper. >> Oh, cool. >> At least on this socket. Yeah.
>> So, uh, even though it's an older block, >> it'll work on the new STR5.
>> Oh, shoot. >> Yeah, there's a little bit of gunk in there. >> Oh, balls.
>> Is it too much? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, we only got to run it for like
10 minutes. >> Okay, there we go. And yikes.
What the heck kind of water did we put in here? That's the problem is any junk
that does grow in a loop or anything that does contaminate it usually ends up
in the CPU block because that's where all these tight little fins are. You know,
>> obviously this kind of setup wouldn't work for a long-term deployment. But
>> we're just going to see if we can push this thing a little further. You want 5 GHz?
>> Yeah, we we saw 4.8 4.85.
>> I know, but it's on 64 cores. >> Yeah, but now we've got a bucket of ice.
>> That's true. >> Do it. All right. How's our temps?
Casual 13°. Let's go, boys.
>> Yes. >> What? What? It's getting cold.
>> This is amazing. >> We've done >> I had no idea what you guys were doing
when you said bucket. >> It's cooling solutions for cool kids.
>> Yeah, we've done this multiple times. >> Yeah. >> Well, what do you think? How hot do you
think it's ice? >> My CPU is at like 8C. Like, this works.
This is not a stupid thing to do. >> Yeah. Well, >> well, okay. Okay. Longterm maybe, but
temporary it's great. >> Yeah. >> 365 a lot.
>> Wait, what? >> 8 485. No, it's still going. Just let it go. >> Okay, she's going. She's cooking.
>> I don't know if it'll go past 500 though. 490. >> Same.
>> Yeah, we're stuck at 4.85.
>> We weren't thermally limited. >> No, I'm partic I'm, you know, I'm
wellelmed.
Appropriately wellelmed. Not over or under, just appropriately wellelmed.
>> Good chip and shockingly not that hard
to cool. So if you were to build a workstation around this thing, I mean,
>> 360 mil AIO is honestly way good enough. >> And you can chuck it right in the
existing machine you had that was already handling a Threadripper cuz it's running at exactly the same TDP. I
set the multiplier to 50. Um, PBO let me
down. And we're at 630 W now. So my
scale here is not sufficient anymore. No, we didn't cut the screen count. Oh,
she's going, boys. >> Oh my god. What'd you change? >> We're over 5 GHz.
>> No. 640 watts. What do you change? What did you change? >> I just turned the multiplier up. With
that said, I don't necessarily know it's worth upgrading from a 7950X, but I
never say no to more performance at the same wattage and core count. And if you
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Oh god, it can do even more. >> All crashed. No, it can't.
>> We were at 770 watts. 5.3 GHz.
>> Yes. Maybe >> five plus GHz. It's really >> That's a lot on 64 cores. Yeah.